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Dominion General Discussion / Re: The Fool is a pity
« on: January 15, 2018, 11:38:34 am »
I'd agree that the Boons from Blessed Village are far more tolerable. After all, they only occur ten times in the entire game, unless something odd happens.

Indeed. "When you discard it from play". If you're not discarding Throne Room from play, you can't put it onto your deck.

But what if you could? Duration cards and cards played to modify them only remain out as a reminder; the effect is not linked to them still being in play. So yes, you would still get double effect from the Duration card, in exactly the same way as, if you somehow remove the Duration card itself from play, you still get the effect.

There aren't many ways to forcibly remove a card from play, though. The only two I can think of right now both do it by trashing the card: Procession and Bonfire.

Dominion Articles / Re: Etiquette in Dominion Online
« on: January 12, 2018, 12:20:27 pm »
Does this mean that you can undo a three-pile ending if one of those piles is Page or Peasant and you played that card during your turn? I never knew that.
Ambassador is the classic way to have an empty pile become non-empty.

I'm not saying IGG for Coppers which you feed to Ambassador is a superb line of play, just that it's better than feeding IGG to Ambassador and later feeding the Curse to IGG.

That... seems completely backwards? It's much easier to find your junk cards when you draw most of your deck than to hope it'll show up in 5 random cards.
The thing about Ratcatcher is it stays in Reserve until needed. You don't have to draw it with the thing you want to trash.

The other thing about Ratcatcher is that it stays in Reserve once you've finished thinning, rather than clogging up your hand. That's more or less equivalent to it being able to self-trash.

Monastery also seems a bit high, the main problem with it is that it doesn't work great in multiples.
As I wrote elsewhere:
In other news, my experience so far has been that two Monasteries turned out to be at least one too many.
It may be that a single Monastery is an absolute powerhouse if used correctly, but I'm pretty sure that two is a mistake. Right now, I still prefer Ratcatcher, mainly because of how excellent it is at mopping up those last few junk cards in your deck which other trashers struggle to track down.


Definitely neat, and definitely potentially useful. But you possibly want to win the Forager split before trashing your Heirlooms...

Dominion General Discussion / Re: Quick Questions and Answers
« on: January 11, 2018, 12:13:33 pm »
it cannot trash Estates
Corner case: Inheritance. Though admittedly you're then not going to want to trash them...

Even more extreme corner case: Magic Hat, which I've just noticed has awesome synergy with Bonfire.

Dominion Articles / Re: Overdrawing
« on: January 11, 2018, 12:06:08 pm »
What about in the context of consistency of overdrawing?

Having gained IGG, it might be simpler to use it as a source of Copper to throw at your opponent, rather than hurling IGG at them followed by the Curse you receive as a result?

Dominion Articles / Re: Overdrawing
« on: January 10, 2018, 06:37:08 pm »
If you have at least 5 stop cards in your deck; you might fail to draw your deck.
Is it worth mentioning, in that context, the consistency benefit of cards like Hireling and Caravan which draw at the start of your turn?

Thinking about it, that one's very interesting isn't it? It gives a huge advantage to whoever ends the game, even if they weren't previously leading on points.

If you trash your economy with Mint but don't end the game, presumably your opponent will then stock up on Duchies while you flounder?

Ooh yes; I momentarily forgot Prince doesn't re-enter play each turn along with what it plays.

I was thinking you could cost-reduce then Summon a Tormentor, but it's neater using Prince when that's already in the kingdom.

Dominion General Discussion / Re: The Fool is a pity
« on: January 10, 2018, 06:16:51 pm »
For all you Fool haters out there, I'll take this moment to apologize for Fool. Sorry! Probably if it hadn't been for me, Fool wouldn't be in the set.
Gosh. I misconstrued your earlier apology. I thought you were only claiming responsibility for it being in the first recommended kingdom!

These things happen, I guess...

Game Reports / Re: A ridiculous kingdom
« on: January 10, 2018, 09:59:27 am »
I don't have Alchemy, so don't have great intuition about Apprentice, but what would happen if one focused on Skulk+Apprentice to gradually turn your deck Gold with a bit of +Buy, draw and hexing? It feels like that might be very quick.

Uh. When comparing card A with card B, it's kinda implicit that you actually have the choice.

I mean, saying that Steward is a better trasher than Chapel because Chapel isn't in some particular kingdom wouldn't make much sense.

On the other hand, a few Highways and Laboratory is easier to gain than Will-o'-Wisp!

Help! / Re: Battlefield and Distant Lands but no draw
« on: January 08, 2018, 09:17:12 pm »
Instead of +1$ (copper) you have to invest a coin, so you play a terminal 5$ that kinda says  -2, trash a copper, gain a card costing 3$.

Firstly, including the "here's what you would have won" of a Copper you trash in a card's effect feels like double counting. It's not meaningful to say that Chapel has a -$4 effect when you trash four Coppers, even if it's not false per se.

Secondly, I'm only advocating it as a $3 gainer because there's $3 stuff worth gaining. When trashing Copper, Baker is more like "Trash a Copper. +1 Buy, +$2", which would be overpriced at $5 except that Baker can then pivot into mid-game and late-game usefulness.

having more 3$'s than you get by dud turns and transformed estates might even be bad
But, while Oasis won't help you reach $8, it's really good at avoiding dud turns and helping you reach $5 more consistently.

Dominion General Discussion / Re: The more I read the worse I get?
« on: January 08, 2018, 08:56:16 pm »
The whole point of it is supposed to be a way to silently express approval or lack thereof.
How can one express disapproval through the respect system in a way which is distinguishable from not having read a comment, or having no opinion on it?

I know various systems are opposed to thumbs-down mechanisms because they encourage negativity. On the other hand, the absence of a thumbs-down mechanism might increase the number of people who feel moved to make negative comments.

If every comment received twenty thumbs-up and two denunciatory replies, that thread could make pretty turgid reading.

Let's Discuss ... / Re: Let's Discuss Prosperity Cards: Loan
« on: January 08, 2018, 08:18:53 am »
Two Loans is okay
My experience is that two Loans is awesome if you have some trash for benefit to later get them out of your deck and recover your investment. But far less awesome if you end up hoping one Loan will trash the other.

Help! / Re: Battlefield and Distant Lands but no draw
« on: January 08, 2018, 08:13:45 am »
One thing I really like about Butcher is the way it can alternate between turning Estates into $3 cards and Coppers into $3 cards. That's especially true on this board where there are a couple of nice $3s to get.

Is concentrating on draw really the way to go? Thinning seems more appealing, and there's no need to stall: with a coin-based economy, towards game end Butcher is equivalent to +Buy, economy and salvaging. Your opponent isn't going to manage a surprise ending, so you can leave greening until your final turn or two, and run a very tight deck until then.

Dominion General Discussion / Re: The more I read the worse I get?
« on: January 07, 2018, 06:14:52 pm »
It is essential to the concept of forums that [...]
Everything you say there seems to be from the perspective of someone who's posting. But there are also people reading the forums.

It's also essential to the concept of forums that it's reasonably easy for people to find the stuff that interests them and avoid the stuff that doesn't.

I get the impression the complaints are, at least implicitly, following the template of "X keeps posting about Y where it is only tangential to the topic in hand, and most people aren't interested in X's views on Y. X is wasting their time and should desist, but if X is determined to continue they should get a room for Y." A specific complaint might be bogus, but the template itself seems legit.

There's precedent for insisting that certain tangents get taken to a special area. Religion, sex, politics, loan...

Dominion Online at Shuffle iT / Re: A user report feature?
« on: January 06, 2018, 09:03:03 pm »
Yes. If you'd like more active moderation, please donate to my Paypal.  8)
...including in the comments field of your donation the name of the person you wish to be more actively moderated.

Dominion General Discussion / Re: The more I read the worse I get?
« on: January 06, 2018, 08:59:43 pm »
It's not. I get his point. There's just no reason to talk about his point in the context of how strong Loan is.
Or, to put it another way, his point is not the point.

Dominion General Discussion / Re: The more I read the worse I get?
« on: January 06, 2018, 03:22:14 pm »
I'm not missing the point, the point is just not relevant to what I'm saying.
What you're saying having no relevance to the point is missing the point!

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