Also. It's demanded of me that I say this:Pacific Daylight Time, to clarify.
I may be unavailable from 7:00 PM tonight to late 28th/early 29th.
I'm not entirely sure on the situation. I MAY be able to post during this time, but at the same time I wouldn't count on it to much.
Hopefully my contribution to the thread will be enough to impede the incurring wrath of Jimmmmm.
Getting overly reactive is bad form almost always.Dis ^
I didn't have much to look at.Hey that's what I'm trying to figure out.I am a very reactive player when it comes to bad cases on me.
But I do know that in mafia people tend to target the people that feel the most reactive to negative responses to a mistake/suspicious act.
You've been acting out the most in response to these.
This happened to me the last game, I got super defensive towards what people were saying, and because kept on poking the bear on me to see what would happen. It works.
People are suspicious of you for two reasons:
Your knee jerk reactions
Your low roll
Your assessment is correct as to why people find me scummy.
But what do you think of Voltaire? His roll was even lower than mine, and you seem to be in faust's camp on that.
Ugh. Alright, gimmie a bit.. Going sifting through pages to look at Voltaire posts.
Hey that's what I'm trying to figure out.I am a very reactive player when it comes to bad cases on me.
But I do know that in mafia people tend to target the people that feel the most reactive to negative responses to a mistake/suspicious act.
You've been acting out the most in response to these.
This happened to me the last game, I got super defensive towards what people were saying, and because kept on poking the bear on me to see what would happen. It works.
People are suspicious of you for two reasons:
Your knee jerk reactions
Your low roll
Your assessment is correct as to why people find me scummy.
But what do you think of Voltaire? His roll was even lower than mine, and you seem to be in faust's camp on that.
Hey that's what I'm trying to figure out.Well you know Voltaire played a 5 right? (I understand it's hard to catch up on 18 pages).I don't have a direct response to Ichi here.. That said, people tend to act differently toward different attitudes directed towards them. This can be displayed easily by accusing something on something they did not do, they'll likely feel pretty defensive.My roll was the first scummy thing you found about me--and it was the instigator to solidifying your reads on me.Well obviously, scum has a vested interest in playing low numbers. I see the argument, but it's really 100% WIFOM. Aside from reads separate from the numbers that someone plays, there is no way to tell if they are unlucky town or lying scum. I hope that people see this.
To me, this is one of the things that makes this setup really interesting. It would be pretty dull if faust was right and it's just a cut and dry low number = scum (which of course it isn't).
Why do you continue to choose to ignore that the low roll is not the only thing I find you scummy for?
I responded to your accusations and you found me even scummier for it. So, your calling me our for my low roll forms the foundation of your reads on me.
I am so tired of trying to argue this. In fact, I don't think I'm going to argue to defend my low play any more. If you can't see it by this point, it doesn't matter.I know all of these things. Referring to what was already said, Scum has a vested interest in putting low numbers and defending it to make themselves seem like the unlucky town.Ichi feels incredibly defensive about people's position towards him. His low roll calls him out almost automatically as scum (and rightly so).No read on Volt?
I know you're new (and this is also a very different setup) but did you know that you have to play a dice if you roll over a certain number of dice--and also that these numbers are randomized?
Dah. I'm tired of this conversation anyway.
And I don't really have a read of Voltaire. *shrug*
Is that a big deal? I'm only pointing out what I found most significant throughout my little binge-reading escapade.
You're right that scum has those interests, but there will definitely be unlucky town as well, so how do you propose to tell the difference?
I don't have a direct response to Ichi here.. That said, people tend to act differently toward different attitudes directed towards them. This can be displayed easily by accusing something on something they did not do, they'll likely feel pretty defensive.My roll was the first scummy thing you found about me--and it was the instigator to solidifying your reads on me.Well obviously, scum has a vested interest in playing low numbers. I see the argument, but it's really 100% WIFOM. Aside from reads separate from the numbers that someone plays, there is no way to tell if they are unlucky town or lying scum. I hope that people see this.
To me, this is one of the things that makes this setup really interesting. It would be pretty dull if faust was right and it's just a cut and dry low number = scum (which of course it isn't).
Why do you continue to choose to ignore that the low roll is not the only thing I find you scummy for?
I responded to your accusations and you found me even scummier for it. So, your calling me our for my low roll forms the foundation of your reads on me.
I am so tired of trying to argue this. In fact, I don't think I'm going to argue to defend my low play any more. If you can't see it by this point, it doesn't matter.
I know all of these things. Referring to what was already said, Scum has a vested interest in putting low numbers and defending it to make themselves seem like the unlucky town.Ichi feels incredibly defensive about people's position towards him. His low roll calls him out almost automatically as scum (and rightly so).No read on Volt?
I know you're new (and this is also a very different setup) but did you know that you have to play a dice if you roll over a certain number of dice--and also that these numbers are randomized?
Dah. I'm tired of this conversation anyway.
Well, Ash is arguing that not rolling is anti-town, and that claiming that you have a strong town PR that requires you to save your dice is a great cover for having a scum PR that uses dice. I expect Ash to go after Mail-Mi for this regardless of Ash's alignment. That being said, it feels a little more like WoT Ash (scum) than Innovation Ash (town).Interesting. At the current moment I feel like a spectator analyzing the situation from afar.. Which isn't a good thing, as far as I can tell.
That entire situation seems kind of strange.Yeah I do.One last thing..
My supply went down from 13 to 15.. Is this due to being inactive, or did someone take my dice? Q-Q
*notentirelysureifIshouldbepostingthisinformationonlyplayedlike4gamesofmafiaonhere*
Well, first, 15 is bigger than 13 so there's an issue. (har har)
Secondly, slow down. Do you understand what's going on with the monsters, the dice mechanic, the need for us to kill him, and all that stuff?
I've read through the roles and I was also in.. RMM14? 15? Something like that.
But I made sure to give myself a refresh on the whole dealio and I know what you guys are talking about.
Alright, so basically, (someone jump in if I'm misspeaking):
The troll is at 910, so we need 90 to kill him. This means that if just you roll, you need a 10. The number of dice you need to roll to ensure you do that to some probability can be computed. If Mail-Mi rolls as well, then you just need 90 between the two of you.
I think the only person in the "Mail-Mi should roll before Box" corner is Ash, so I'd say go ahead and roll some dice and play a high number.
Thirdly, don't give any info away without some kind of understanding that it's a good idea to do so. Things like number of dice you roll, the values, your role, etc. shouldn't be freely disclosed.Yeah I caught that.
WOOPS! 15 to 13. I had that wrong. I keep getting confused by the down-to-up way of posting on Quicktopic.Yeah I do.One last thing..
My supply went down from 13 to 15.. Is this due to being inactive, or did someone take my dice? Q-Q
*notentirelysureifIshouldbepostingthisinformationonlyplayedlike4gamesofmafiaonhere*
Well, first, 15 is bigger than 13 so there's an issue. (har har)
Secondly, slow down. Do you understand what's going on with the monsters, the dice mechanic, the need for us to kill him, and all that stuff?
I've read through the roles and I was also in.. RMM14? 15? Something like that.
But I made sure to give myself a refresh on the whole dealio and I know what you guys are talking about.
Yeah I do.One last thing..
My supply went down from 13 to 15.. Is this due to being inactive, or did someone take my dice? Q-Q
*notentirelysureifIshouldbepostingthisinformationonlyplayedlike4gamesofmafiaonhere*
Well, first, 15 is bigger than 13 so there's an issue. (har har)
Secondly, slow down. Do you understand what's going on with the monsters, the dice mechanic, the need for us to kill him, and all that stuff?
Yay! Box has logged on. Also, I don't think you should tell people how many dice you have.ERFGABLERGH.
Ha.. Ha..?Wow. 18 entire pages.. This is embarrassing.
My computer was locked down, so I have to do everything from my Kindle Fire. So expect posts to be kind of awkward and short.
Reading through everything ASAP so I can catch up and see what's going on. (No need to give me an update)
And this, folks, is why you don't watch porn from FBI headquarters.
BoxofDOG,Slightly reluctant to do so because it's 1-shot, but sure, I'll use it.
before we finish the day , I want you to agree on targeting mail-mi with your voyeur power during the night.
Box, why have you ignored my request for you to tell us all what exactly it is you suspect of me? What good is it to express suspicion without saying what is suspicious. Oh, right, to direct Town without getting your hands dirty.A large portion of the way you defend yourself, the way you're acting, and especially what Xeiron says that you claimed as your flavor.
Well, for one thing, HOW would I even know there were MORE cop-like roles?Popping my LR?UUUGHH.
This entire thing just keeps drawing on.. For pitty sake.
I just got back home, and had to read through five pages of bickering between Ashersky and Pingpong. Two people I suspect.
Someone just vote for Ash and I'll finish the job, I'm safe enough.
(Also, Ash has already made his claim and defended himself PLENTY. Suddenly killing him off would have no effect, seeing as we have all the information we need to analyze.)
Can I get on record here as saying you popping your LR was not a good idea? You threw everything off and actually made it harder to catch scum.
That saved me, chairs, AND you.
Why in the WORLD would I not reveal, seeing as it made me an IC?
Jeeze la' wheeze.
vote: ash
It didn't save anyone. Well, maybe it saved whomever was being NKed, since it would redirect it to you, but chairs and I weren't saved by you.
We were investigating each other, and we both ended up investigating you. That's what I'm saying is the problem.
Popping my LR?UUUGHH.
This entire thing just keeps drawing on.. For pitty sake.
I just got back home, and had to read through five pages of bickering between Ashersky and Pingpong. Two people I suspect.
Someone just vote for Ash and I'll finish the job, I'm safe enough.
(Also, Ash has already made his claim and defended himself PLENTY. Suddenly killing him off would have no effect, seeing as we have all the information we need to analyze.)
Can I get on record here as saying you popping your LR was not a good idea? You threw everything off and actually made it harder to catch scum.
