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Tournaments and Events / Re: Official Dominion Tournament at U-Con, Nov. 18 2023, 11am - 7pm, Ypsilanti, MI
« on: November 30, 2023, 11:22:22 am »
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Sadz
« on: September 19, 2023, 03:56:25 pm »I was just thinking about how much I miss you all and I hope that you are doing well.
xoxo
Same!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: f.ds Mafia Hub
« on: April 03, 2023, 04:34:17 pm »
There is still room for several more people in Hangman Mafia Round 2!
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Forum Games / Re: ZM24 - Hangman Mafia, Round 2
« on: April 01, 2023, 08:38:25 pm »
gkrieg - are you still /in?
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Forum Games / Re: ZM24 - Hangman Mafia, Round 2
« on: March 29, 2023, 01:11:12 pm »
What are your preferences regarding semi-blitz/full-blitz/long?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 20, 2023, 04:54:53 pm »
This was the last time scola gets to use the "I'm always awkward Day 1" excuse!
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 01, 2023, 03:11:02 pm »You guys are wrong about me.
I don't think we are.I think he hesitated then because he hadn't quite decided to go with the bus on math.
You think that's a strong case?
You excerpt one line from a paragraph case and then say it's weak? Whatever. You guys messed up.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 01, 2023, 03:07:27 pm »
Lalight should have let me claim. I'm the jailkeeper.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 01, 2023, 01:04:03 pm »
The case for MiX as SM is strong. It is only weakened by his saying he's been playing plurality so long he forgot that majority was a thing. That isn't even a strong argument, because he still could have voted. By not voting he was avoiding taking a stand - not having a helpful vote down at EoD is scummy. I think he hesitated then because he hadn't quite decided to go with the bus on math. Now he has decided, and comes out of the gate prepared with an argument based on the nk choice.
I don't think math would have chosen to nk Joseph. I don't think Joseph was any kind of actual threat to mathdude. I think MiX killed Joseph and came up with this theory to frame math and take the game on as SK facing town with no powers.
I don't think math would have chosen to nk Joseph. I don't think Joseph was any kind of actual threat to mathdude. I think MiX killed Joseph and came up with this theory to frame math and take the game on as SK facing town with no powers.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 01, 2023, 12:54:49 pm »
You guys are wrong about me. I've been open about my opinions and taken stands. I made cases, of varying value, and have been pro-town in my priorities. I tried to get an exile Day 1. I made excellent arguments against the mathdude case today, which have somehow not been responded to. Perhaps some of you would read my post on Lalight's case and see how the case on math doesn't hold up. It's anti-town to let a bad case go to exile.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 01, 2023, 08:49:29 am »
Sorry, difficult week. I liked Awaclus's argument that the SM might not protect a traitor who seems about to be exiled. It's just not me. I think it's MiX. gkrieg asked why not vote anyway, and that is a good question. He might not vote to try to buy time to decide what to do.
On a different scum narrative, I hate to say this because he's been a helpful contributor, but Awaclus is behaving differently from usual, and the last time that happened he was scum.
On a different scum narrative, I hate to say this because he's been a helpful contributor, but Awaclus is behaving differently from usual, and the last time that happened he was scum.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 27, 2023, 11:02:25 pm »I hope you saw my response to this.I think I can get behind the arguement against EFHW.
Including the part that assumes you're the traitor?
Sure, why not?
No, just the opportunistic jump on anything that comes up on anyone.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - Roles Sent! Please Confirm!
« on: February 27, 2023, 02:30:42 pm »"Actually, probably, surely" seems like overstatement.
it was my train of thought. Before my reread I was focused on Awaclus and after I changed my mind to mathdude. Also your vote doesn't count
I know. I'm staying on MiX.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - Roles Sent! Please Confirm!
« on: February 27, 2023, 10:44:16 am »
I would edit Lalight's quote list differently. First I'm taking out all the fluff. Then I add a few comments.
Why is this scumreading of gkrieg fluff? It's the same level of accusation he made against Awaclus and mathdude, just this time it's gkrieg.
Now comes the theory that leads to his Awaclus vote, basically in reaction to joth challenging the discrepancy between his reactions to gkrieg and Awaclus.
Post #160 Joseph votes for mathdude 3rd, after Awaclus and LALIGHT
Now housekeeping/theory talk:
{snip fluff}
Lalight:
Joseph is not tunneling mathdude here. He sheeps onto the wagon and then doesn't have a reason to get off the wagon because math didn't strike him as towny. 5 of us settled on mathdude for similar reasons. "Actually, probably, surely" seems like overstatement.
vote: Lalight for his case. Also, I'll restate that I found math's argument that he would have recruited convincing.
So let's finally do what needs to be done. Joseph reread.
{snip}
I’m here! I had closed my dedicated forum tab in my browser… I have to get back in the habit of checking this again!Sounds like what lurking scum would say
Everything above is pretty much fluff. But here it gets interesting, given what Awaclus said:
Why is this scumreading of gkrieg fluff? It's the same level of accusation he made against Awaclus and mathdude, just this time it's gkrieg.
Now comes the theory that leads to his Awaclus vote, basically in reaction to joth challenging the discrepancy between his reactions to gkrieg and Awaclus.
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Vote: Awaclus then
Interesting. Why is that something lurking scum would say butLooks like I don't get e-mail notifications from f.ds at all anymore, it used to be a little random before but I haven't gotten a single notification this whole thread. I guess I have to keep up with it manually.
is not? They're both very similar excuses for low activity, but Joseph called one out and ignored the other. Could it be because one came from a partner? J'accuse
Vote: Joseph2302
My theory is that they're both scum, so doesn't matter so much which one we exile first (if we exile them both eventually, obviously godfather first is good)
Post #160 Joseph votes for mathdude 3rd, after Awaclus and LALIGHT
Vote: mathdude
#wagons
Now housekeeping/theory talk:
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None of this seems focused on mathdude. So far we have only the #wagons vote that refers to mathdude.That's L-3 I think?So we have 2 wagons with L-3 (is correct terminology now meant to be E-3?)The traitor isn't irrelevant, we stop winning if we find the SM if the SM recruits the traitor. So, if we exile the traitor today, that's great news for us and bad news for scum, which is why it's in the strongman's best interests to stop that from happening if possible.Agree, this is what I was (badly) trying to say earlier in the thread. Better to kill a scum than a town, even if it's "only" the traitor.Gkrieg seems like an easy vote, as he hasn't posted much at all
OTOH, seems like an easy misexile target for scum to wagon on, which I think could be the case hereErgo, I think there's scum on the gkrieg wagon, as whilst exiling lurkers seems to be common, it's an easy out for scum SM to avoid being exiled and losing immediately
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But here he doesn't sr Awaclus anymore (which also doesn't really clear Awa from suspicion):This also doesn't target math specifically. Didds, Lalight and scola are equally pointed to. But he stays where he already was.Vote Count 1.4So by my previous logic that SM is on this lazy gkrieg wagon, I think SM is in {WCD, LL, math, scola}
gkrieg (5): WestCoastDidds, LaLight, mathdude, scolapasta, MiX (L-1)
Mathdude (3): Awaclus, Joseph, Joth
scolapasta (1): EFHW
Not Voting (1): gkrieg
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Do you see a compelling reason to change that he ignored?And so I'm fine with my vote on math, don't see a compelling reason to change right nowVote Count 1.4So by my previous logic that SM is on this lazy gkrieg wagon, I think SM is in {WCD, LL, math, scola}
gkrieg (5): WestCoastDidds, LaLight, mathdude, scolapasta, MiX (L-1)
Mathdude (3): Awaclus, Joseph, Joth
scolapasta (1): EFHW
Not Voting (1): gkrieg
{snip fluff}
Lalight:
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And the last postI don't expect to be around much, but think my vote is in a good place right now
What's the rule if we don't get a hammer? Presumably no exile (which is bad for town)?
I'm not sure what to draw from it, it's basically nothing. It points to mathdude, actually, probably, surely vote: mathdude
Joseph is not tunneling mathdude here. He sheeps onto the wagon and then doesn't have a reason to get off the wagon because math didn't strike him as towny. 5 of us settled on mathdude for similar reasons. "Actually, probably, surely" seems like overstatement.
vote: Lalight for his case. Also, I'll restate that I found math's argument that he would have recruited convincing.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 27, 2023, 09:16:54 am »I definitely would have recruited. If I was SM, I think it would be pretty stupid for me not to have last night, given how the day ended and that there was a high likelihood of being a target again today.
This seems like a strong argument.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 27, 2023, 08:05:29 am »
I can see that scum would want an exile and wouldn't draw attention to themselves by beibgcthe obvious cause of a no exile.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 26, 2023, 07:35:06 pm »
Awaclus's #2 fits into a MiX case pretty well. He frames his partner then busses him, looking to earn a lot of towncred and get the extra nk.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 26, 2023, 07:32:59 pm »
Awaclus has some good arguments, but they aren't correct.
Also, I didn't (only) vote MiX for not voting at deadline. I mostly voted him for coming out of the gate at the beginning of the day with a theory about why math is scum - and it was a theory that didn't take two very real possibilities into consideration: that math would likely know and consider how it looks to nk Joseph, and that someone could have killed Joseph in order to frame math.
MiX is also confident and gutsy enough to go solo without the traitor.
It's true I've been shooting down theories. But I think it's scummy to put forward poorly reasoned or otherwise suspect cases, so I call them out when I see them.
Why would MiX "forget" it wasn't plurality exile? I would expect MiX to be double checking that when it's clear there is about to be a no-exile. He tends be pretty detail oriented iirc.
Also, I didn't (only) vote MiX for not voting at deadline. I mostly voted him for coming out of the gate at the beginning of the day with a theory about why math is scum - and it was a theory that didn't take two very real possibilities into consideration: that math would likely know and consider how it looks to nk Joseph, and that someone could have killed Joseph in order to frame math.
MiX is also confident and gutsy enough to go solo without the traitor.
It's true I've been shooting down theories. But I think it's scummy to put forward poorly reasoned or otherwise suspect cases, so I call them out when I see them.
Why would MiX "forget" it wasn't plurality exile? I would expect MiX to be double checking that when it's clear there is about to be a no-exile. He tends be pretty detail oriented iirc.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 26, 2023, 01:37:33 pm »
I'm not buying this scum!mathdude theory. I liked it ok at first, but the fact is it feels cooked up by scum. Scumpoints to Lalight for uncritically accepting it.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 25, 2023, 12:08:23 am »
@MiX How did you end up not voting towards getting an exile? You were there.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 23, 2023, 11:13:23 pm »MiX is the gutsiest. But also, so are you.Thanks, but I don't think it's me.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 23, 2023, 08:54:22 pm »I think I would have recruited if I were scum....
I do agree that points to someone who feels pretty safely not under suspicion, or someone who's just gutsy AF.
MiX?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 23, 2023, 09:15:49 am »Now I'm torn! I like seeing the scola votes and I like MiX's reasoning. Though it does presuppose math not seeing how things would look if he killed Joseph, and someone could have killed Joseph to make math look bad.
I also don't want to exile town!scola, though, and L-2 is quickexile territory. I'm talking myself out of voting at all!
Consider me open to voting math or scola.
vote: MiX
Based on what I just posted, I would have put Joseph on a safer list today too.
I don't know what you mean. MiX's argument was that you are SM and nk'd Joseph.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: February 23, 2023, 09:14:04 am »
@MiX - I think you quoted an incorrect vote count.