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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Game Starts Tuesday!
« on: June 21, 2021, 06:51:28 pm »
So like, is it a thing to not reveal which timeline you are on or what?

Also, I've been playing mafia for a couple years elsewhere and I am completely different now... really... you can trust that.

pps - how much of this statement was intended to mask your being scum? MiX did the same thing, and a long time ago Awaclus did this when scum.

I am quite different these days, I do think. I was trying to be funny and serious at the same time. I know I built quite the reputation here so I was hoping to alleviate the idea that I'm the complete wildcard I used to be. It was my first scum game since the pandemic started though, so I was definitely nervous to play that side after being thoroughly trained up playing town on another forum for so long. Where I was nervous was in the QT. It felt like damned if I post in there and damned if I don't.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 6!!!!
« on: June 21, 2021, 10:38:14 am »
As traitor I felt it was poor play to mention traitor too early although Didds set me up for it as she mentioned scum not having knowledge of one another. I did leverage this later when it was clear it needed communicating, although too late. I was hoping my obv scum read/bus on Joth was Telegraph enough. I was actually surprised how much everyone read it town. The missed traitor shot and Galz' lack of participation doomed us I felt from the beginning.

The 1v1 with Eddie was only possible with ashersky and while I can't take full credit for manipulating him through buddying I do take some.

The town claim troll was a prayer for stay of execution which I thought MiX was also likely to get when Hyper started foibling his read/claims.

I had come up with the motivator claim N0 and it really sucks that Glooble had no actual night actions because I did roleblock him both nights with intent to mislynch them for "lying" when I brought out the fake claim. I credit DatSwan for the fake claim as I was the main character's fake wife and when I thought what roles she would have motivator was the obvious choice. I still feel it was extremely strong play if Glooble had actual night actions to speak of. The fact that I never actually blocked anything also really hamstrung us I believe.

All in all I think scum had a very bad game mostly because of poor luck (whiffed actions, missed traitor) but I would have liked to have seen Galz actually play the early game.

Hope that answers any questions about my play this game if any where had.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 5!
« on: June 12, 2021, 09:42:20 am »
So pps, what's your alignment?

I am town. I don't believe Glooble but I can't make a cohesive case, I guess. There is no town reason for denying the motivation. It was pretty clear tome yesterday what was up but it seemed completely passed over. Also, while it was not out of the question to flip me today, now that's done what will you actually do with the info?

What does your role power do exactly? If you motivated Glooble and he's scum would he be able to make extra NKs?

Motivated players can perform the same action twice or, in the case of multiple actions like JOAT, can perform multiple actions in the same night. Motivation is only available for the night it is performed.

To be more clear and answer the question, the motivated player can select different targets for the actions so, yes, multiple NKs are possible. More to the point, if poisoning takes two actions to kill the person, which seems reasonable with Eddie's role, then a motivated poisoner could NK in a single night.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 5!
« on: June 12, 2021, 09:39:28 am »
So pps, what's your alignment?

I am town. I don't believe Glooble but I can't make a cohesive case, I guess. There is no town reason for denying the motivation. It was pretty clear tome yesterday what was up but it seemed completely passed over. Also, while it was not out of the question to flip me today, now that's done what will you actually do with the info?

What does your role power do exactly? If you motivated Glooble and he's scum would he be able to make extra NKs?

Motivated players can perform the same action twice or, in the case of multiple actions like JOAT, can perform multiple actions in the same night. Motivation is only available for the night it is performed.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 5!
« on: June 11, 2021, 07:53:51 pm »
So pps, what's your alignment?

I am town. I don't believe Glooble but I can't make a cohesive case, I guess. There is no town reason for denying the motivation. It was pretty clear tome yesterday what was up but it seemed completely passed over. Also, while it was not out of the question to flip me today, now that's done what will you actually do with the info?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 5!
« on: June 11, 2021, 09:09:15 am »
So again I ask, why does scum pps bring this up at all?

He could have had a night action blocked and be fishing for information as to why that happened.

It's a strange play to me, but at the same time if he's town why would he be so eager to turn you not confirming his action into a 1v1? Especially since what you claimed gives a plausible reason for a motivator shot to not notify you, and I don't think scum!you would want to lie and deny you were motivated, especially since you just tied yourself to scola.

I've already clarified I think Glooble is the poisoner and the motivations were used as such which is why he isn't claiming them and the WIFOM is enough to flip me instead of him today which is just enough time to kill enough town for the win. Flip either of the "masons" today and we may still have a chance, though.

If Glooble was the poisoner and you motivated him wouldn't we have seen more kills?

Not if reverse can only kill on reverse timeline and forward can only kill on forward and Joth was the forward guy with the normal NK.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 5!
« on: June 10, 2021, 10:01:35 pm »
So again I ask, why does scum pps bring this up at all?

He could have had a night action blocked and be fishing for information as to why that happened.

It's a strange play to me, but at the same time if he's town why would he be so eager to turn you not confirming his action into a 1v1? Especially since what you claimed gives a plausible reason for a motivator shot to not notify you, and I don't think scum!you would want to lie and deny you were motivated, especially since you just tied yourself to scola.

I've already clarified I think Glooble is the poisoner and the motivations were used as such which is why he isn't claiming them and the WIFOM is enough to flip me instead of him today which is just enough time to kill enough town for the win. Flip either of the "masons" today and we may still have a chance, though.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 5!
« on: June 10, 2021, 02:00:41 pm »
But do you have mod confirmation that the person is informed they were targeted even if they have no night action?

The mod has indicated that targeted players will be made aware of which of their actions the motivation can be applied to. So, maybe?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 5!
« on: June 10, 2021, 10:58:26 am »
I have mod confirmation that my motivator shots are used up on Glooble who claims he has no night action to use them on. That said, I also have confirmation my shots get used regardless if the person can use them or not. POE from this timeline strongly suggests me as possible scum. I get that. When I flip town we have the "masons" cornered. I am clearly the most informative exile outside of

Vote: Glooble

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 04, 2021, 03:56:33 pm »
Does your power say what would happen if you target someone who doesn't have a night action?

It does not. Also, the mod has made no confirmation or otherwise any other response whatsoever to my actions.

My night actions have always been confirmed. Is this a scumslip?

Oh hey, I was wrong. I double checked. The first one, I had gotten wires crossed and changed my target so the confirmation came in a more general tone. I see now I got confirmation on the second action. Not sure how i missed it but I don't do notifications or anything so I do have to manually get to it from my PM.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 04, 2021, 02:31:43 pm »
Does your power say what would happen if you target someone who doesn't have a night action?

It does not. Also, the mod has made no confirmation or otherwise any other response whatsoever to my actions.

It does say that my target will be informed that they are motivated.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 04, 2021, 02:29:25 pm »
Does your power say what would happen if you target someone who doesn't have a night action?

It does not. Also, the mod has made no confirmation or otherwise any other response whatsoever to my actions.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 04, 2021, 02:28:31 pm »
Alrighty, I think I get what Glooble is doing, now.

Here's my full claim:

I am Catherine Shelby, a Town 2-shot Motivator
I targeted Glooble both nights I could take action.

I see now that if I had targeted Eddie, for example, he could have been a single night vig. Obviously my power is designed to assist us past the on/off timeline hurdle. Also, since scum has a poisoner, and it looks like it might be Glooble, then my power also helps them kill in one night especially if we already took out the scum capable of making normal kills?

Why would you use up both your shots and target gloobie two times? Now this seems like the kind of last minute thing scum would try. While it's not today's timeline who do you believe more PPS or Gloobie?

I targeted Glooble first because I town read him, period. I targeted him a second time because after yesterday's POE situation I figured I'm probably getting flipped regardless so I wanted to use up my shots, and well, Glooble was being what we call too scummy to be scum and stayed my top town read. I explicitly breadcrumbed this yesterday when we were considering me or Eddie and I straight claimed that I had taken town action that was confirmable. It never pushed to requiring confirmation and I read Glooble not saying anything unnecessarily as also towny.

At any rate, this clearly is not some last minute thing considering I claimed it yesterday.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 04, 2021, 12:33:14 pm »
Alrighty, I think I get what Glooble is doing, now.

Here's my full claim:

I am Catherine Shelby, a Town 2-shot Motivator
I targeted Glooble both nights I could take action.

I see now that if I had targeted Eddie, for example, he could have been a single night vig. Obviously my power is designed to assist us past the on/off timeline hurdle. Also, since scum has a poisoner, and it looks like it might be Glooble, then my power also helps them kill in one night especially if we already took out the scum capable of making normal kills?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 04, 2021, 11:36:25 am »
why would Eddie have had two doctor shots?

As an optional vig

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 02, 2021, 06:42:49 pm »
Also, keep in mind that if there were 2 scum in the reverse timeline, PPS is 100% scum.

Sure would have been nice to have had any conversation about this at all yesterday instead of the Eddie pile on.  :(

It was discussed at length.

Well, okay, I talked about it, no one else did too much about it.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 02, 2021, 06:42:19 pm »
Also, keep in mind that if there were 2 scum in the reverse timeline, PPS is 100% scum.

Sure would have been nice to have had any conversation about this at all yesterday instead of the Eddie pile on.  :(

It was discussed at length.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 02, 2021, 02:51:15 pm »
What do think, Mix? Trust the masons or no?

I say flip Jack first. Then if he's not scum, we can worry about the masons tomorrow.

But honestly I'm not sure. I'm not sure at all.

What's the case on Jack?

The case on Galz... not on the Joth wagon.

Pretty flimsy seeing as he was on nothing due to posting nothing.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 02, 2021, 10:31:45 am »
Also, I have info that comes to bear on the mason claim but I am not sure how best to bring it out. Really, that was Glooble's job and since he denies any knowledge I really just don't know how to parse that.

I'll start by claiming to have targeted Glooble both nights I could take action. He should be aware of this.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 02, 2021, 10:30:21 am »
What do think, Mix? Trust the masons or no?

I say flip Jack first. Then if he's not scum, we can worry about the masons tomorrow.

But honestly I'm not sure. I'm not sure at all.

What's the case on Jack?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 01, 2021, 12:06:54 pm »
Glooble, would you say anything of note has taken place for you on the past two reverse timeline nights?

No.

That seems highly suspicious to me. though. The weird bit is that even if you were scum you'd still have not much reason to deny it.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: June 01, 2021, 10:13:05 am »
Glooble, would you say anything of note has taken place for you on the past two reverse timeline nights?


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 4!
« on: May 31, 2021, 09:20:20 am »
Surprised scum struck ash. He was sure to aid them against Glooble. Seriously considering a 3 scum loaded forward timeline at this point. Very much in VLA, though, lots of yard work yesterday and today.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 3!
« on: May 27, 2021, 06:07:43 am »
I used to think these things. I was wrong. Mainly because meta manipulation is for scum whether I am playing as scum or not.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM 58: Memento Mafia - Day 3!
« on: May 26, 2021, 09:27:35 pm »
WTF is going on? Either Eddie is town because he's being awfully persistent or he's scum and knows about some twilight thing. If so, I hope the twilight thing is in Galz' hands. That would just be beautiful.

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