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##### General Discussion / Looking beyond the next 4 years: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species
« on: September 27, 2016, 05:27:55 pm »
Every now and then something with actual historical significance gets broadcasted. I believe this to be one such occasion:

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Be careful when installing Dominion Online
« on: November 08, 2015, 02:51:57 pm »
From the MF forums:

Quote from: Idan Zeierman;42147
Pardon my french, but really, WTF.

So, I've uninstalled the game and downloaded the new version (2.0.44.2) (speaking of which - when are you going to upgrade to the wonderful world of Automatic Updates?). It asked me for the install location. I wrote, as usual for the last few installs (really, when ARE you going to support automatic updates?) "D:\Games". It usually adds "\Dominion" to the path. I pressed "Enter", Next-Next-Next, and moved away from the computer.

I came back several minutes later to find the installer still hard at work. Wondering what's taking so long, I've checked the installer window, and saw that it was removing files at "D:\Games\Steam\...\left 4 dead 2\...". I clicked "Cancel" in panic.

The installer removed most of the contents of my D:\Games folder.

Putting aside the damage to my games (most of them support cloud saves, but I had several GOG games and several Steam games which simply do not) - seriously - how on earth do you abuse administrator privileges like that?! I'm now not only expected to manually upgrade after each small update - but also babysit to make sure I didn't write something wrong and end up removing the contents of my "Program Files" folder?!

The saddest thing is that I'm not even surprised.

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Thank You, Salvagers
« on: October 14, 2015, 04:08:32 pm »
With the end of our favorite Dominion client also comes the end of our favorite browser extension. Its name sparked controversy; its rejected tagline, making Goko barely playable, proved prophetic.

Goko Salvager was there for us to brighten our darkest moments. It was there when the log was a hidden and unreadable mess; it was there when the chat window popped up over our hands; when we were forced to scan dozens of lobbies for an appropriate game; when the ratings were laughable and the kingdom selection was primitive; and it was there when we were faced with the maddening horror of having to play a single game without our beloved servant—the VP counter. In short: whenever we needed something, Goko Salvager was there to provide it.

I'm confident that I speak on behalf of hundreds of people—some vocal, many more lurking in the silent shadows—when I offer a warm round of applause culminating in a standing ovation to...

1wheel

amalloy

michaeljb

nutki

philosophyguy

ragingduckd

serakfalcon

theblankman

yed

They say you can't polish a turd. You proved them wrong.

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##### Goko Dominion Online / MAKiNG MORE FUN: Mod for Dominion Online 2.0
« on: October 11, 2015, 10:55:18 pm »
MAKiNG MORE FUN 0.48a for Windows, OSX and Linux

This mod enhances the look and extends the functionality of Making Fun's Dominion Online 2.0 for Windows, OSX and Linux. Features include Blitz Dominion, autoplay functionality, multi coin token input, alternative "End Actions/Turn" buttons, moving the chat to below the log, alternative hand layout for having a large number of uniques in hand, player counters being permanently visible, buttons to use Watchtower's abilities with a single click, control over the background graphics, a more readable, more compact log with better coloring, session statistics (score and first player count), card grouping in the log and the replacement of the Masq dark-blue border by a lighter tint—all combined with a GUI that provides you an easy way to customize your experience.

Autoplay

Since 0.44.2d autoplay functionality is available that automates certain trivial but repetitive actions, like deciding what Copper to trash with Moneylender, revealing a bane to Young Witch or not trashing your Urchin(s) after playing an attack. As of now the following cards admit autoplay: Alchemist, Bishop, Counting House, Torturer, Treasury, Urchin, Watchtower, Moat, Mountebank, Fool's Gold, Walled Village, Mining Village, Horse Traders, Tournament, Tunnel, Plaza, Stash, Moneylender, Trader and Bane reveal to Young Witch.

Installation Instructions

2. Under Windows, extract the downloaded .rar file to your "Program Files (x86)\Dominion\Dominion_Data\Managed" folder (or wherever you installed Dominion). If your file manager doesn't let you do this, restart it with admin privileges. For installation under OS X, consult the included text file or read this post. No special instructions apply for Linux, just get the MMF files into your Dominion_Data\Managed folder.

3. Enjoy!

If you want to back-up the old file first, rename Assembly-CSharp.dll to something of your liking prior to extracting.

I'll be updating this mod to maintain compatibility with MF's client until they implement all these lovely features themselves (expected somewhere late March 2019). If you want your improved gameplay experience to continue uninterrupted, it's prudent to wait with updating your Dominion Online client to versions beyond 2.0.48 until an updated mod has been released.

Praise for MAKiNG MORE FUN

Man, that's amazing. I played two games, everything seems to be working and it's so much more pleasant than Goko or MF.

Just tried this out and it works perfectly. This combined with the faster speed settings from 2.0.42.1 really seem to make this version as good as / better than Goko Dominion, finally.

Big thumbs up from me - having a problem and deciding to actually do something about it.

This is great, thanks for going the extra half mile. It is amazing how much it actually improves the UI and speed of the game.

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##### Dominion League / Re: Season 7 - Announcing Livestreams
« on: May 03, 2015, 11:38:05 am »
Since I've editted my post multiple times, I'll post again just to say that my match is now at 1pm UTC - 5, or 105 minutes from now.

1pm UTC-5 is still over 140 minutes from now?

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##### Goko Dominion Online / New Goko Feature!
« on: March 26, 2015, 06:28:31 pm »
Ever since Goko cracked the famous problem in GUI design known as "how to display more than ten items on a single computer screen", we've been waiting like hungry ducks for whatever breadcrumbs of brilliance they would bestow upon us next.

It now turns out that they have used their original solution, the multi-page kingdom, as a blueprint for an entirely new feature...

snareroll

...the multi-page hand!

Earlier today a rather promising turn got interrupted by the apparition of an odd-looking triangle, emerging as it did to the north of my Armory, against the backdrop of those misty mountains:

Being the curious bastard I am, I endeavoured to click on it, consequences be damned:

As you can probably tell from the screenshot above, this feature, like the rest of the software, is still in early beta: instead of either truncating by cost as was done with the kingdom or taking the "communistic" approach of enforcing a more or less equal distribution of cards between all participating pages, the current implementation still assigns to page 1 the role of primary container, with page 2 being little more than a lousy back-up, that, I should add, might nevertheless come in handy were page 1 to get lost.

So a word of caution is probably prudent: don't go overboard drawing too much of your deck quite yet, or you could risk prematurely straining the thing, hampering its natural development. Based on an optimistic extrapolation of Goko's track-record, though, it feels reasonable to say that we might be able to enjoy a relatively stable version as early as mid- to late May 2019.

Best to enjoy the wait like the weeks leading up to Christmas, savouring in anticipation of the many pages that hence will be unwrapped!

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##### Game Reports / This is what an engine board looks like
« on: February 13, 2015, 09:15:44 am »

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Moat, Secret Chamber, Ambassador, Conspirator, Contraband, Ghost Ship, Journeyman, Rogue, Witch, Altar, Colonies, Shelters
Log: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20150212/log.531e1dd2e4b08c4b632677a6.1423790464054.txt

A Village in the kingdom is always a welcome luxury, but sometimes you just have to make the best out of the one already in your deck

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##### Game Reports / I'm Beggar, Curse me all you want
« on: February 13, 2015, 07:40:10 am »

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Transmute, Poor House, Beggar, Fishing Village, Sage, Village, Wishing Well, Witch, Border Village, Possession
Log: http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?20150212/log.505d732a51c359e6597efeb8.1423739533807.txt

Because a picture says more than a thousand-word report:

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##### Dominion Videos and Streams / SheCantSayNo's Teaching & Streaming
« on: May 20, 2014, 04:51:01 am »
I recently started streaming at http://www.twitch.tv/shecantsayno. Because I've several cool things coming up I decided to make this thread so that everything is neatly together in one place.

Next Sunday, League match vs. Mr. Anderson

Regular Streams

Stream I
Stream II
Stream III
Stream IV
Stream V

Lessons
Jerni has approached me asking if I'm willing to give him some Dominion lessons. I agreed and we both thought it would be cool to stream the lessons, so that others can benefit as well.

Lesson 1
Lesson 2
Lesson 3
Lesson 4
Lesson 5

Dominion League

Season 1 - Division A
S01E01 vs. Stef - Part 1
S01E01 vs. Stef - Part 2
S01E02 vs. Mic Qsenoch
S01E03 vs. Perry Green
S01E04 vs. HvBoedefeld
S01E05 vs. AI

Season 2 - Division A
S02E01 vs. Mic Qsenoch
S02E02 vs. Rabid
S02E03 vs. Monsieur X
S02E04 vs. Stef

Season 3 - Division B
S03E01 vs. Eevee
S03E02 vs. silverspawn
S03E03 vs. Qvist

Special Streams
Streams that don't fit any of the above categories.

Gokodom III final between AI and Jog with commentary from Mic Qsenoch and me.
Two engine vs. Tunnel games against c4master, a match resulting from this thread.

Feedback
I would really appreciate any and all comments on whatever stream I make. Being new to this I expect there to be a large amount of room for improvement, most of which will go to waste if imperfections aren't pointed out to me.

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Weird Band of Misfits Bug
« on: May 12, 2014, 02:47:26 am »
http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140511/log.505d732a51c359e6597efeb8.1399876952798.txt

SheCantSayNo: turn 16
SheCantSayNo   plays Highway
SheCantSayNo   draws Highway
SheCantSayNo   plays Highway
SheCantSayNo   draws Highway
SheCantSayNo   plays Highway
SheCantSayNo   draws Band of Misfits
SheCantSayNo   plays Highway
SheCantSayNo   draws Highway
SheCantSayNo   plays Highway
SheCantSayNo   draws Ruined Market
SheCantSayNo   plays Band of Misfits

SheCantSayNo   gains Death Cart

Had I been able to play it as Death Cart I could have bought the last Province for the win. Now I lost :/

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Petition for the return of Isotropic
« on: January 05, 2014, 03:56:45 pm »
With the crumbling of their brittle server under a bit of unanticipated traffic as the latest installment in Goko's serial display of inconceivable ineptitude, they've exhausted all doubts of which a reasonable person might grant them the benefit.

I neither know nor care for the particulars of the agreement between dougz and DXV, but with the latter outing his dissatisfaction with whoever is (not) running Goko in such explicit terms as

Quote from: Donald X.
If you do end up needing to contact Goko, most people simply wait until they're the one in charge of the company; everyone gets a turn eventually. Then just remind yourself about whatever your problem was and try not to push it onto whoever comes after you.

one could imagine that he wouldn't have much of a problem with Isotropic's (temporary) return.

So what I propose is this:

1. The immediate return of Isotropic.

2. Informing Goko by means of a friendly Facebook pm (highest likelihood of being read) of (1) and promising them to voluntarily take down Isotropic again once they successfully complete a set of tough challenges, the exact content of which is up for debate, but example elements might be:

- Two consecutive months of 99%+ uptime.
- Two weeks without serious lagging, like the 10 seconds of suspenseful anticipation between playing a Mining Village and receiving into my hand the Curse that was top-decked by my opponent's Sea Hag.
- People bringing up critical issues on Getsatisfaction like non-loading games or non-functioning account-activation receiving a response within a reasonable time-frame (let's say less than 3 weeks).

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##### Game Reports / Awakening
« on: December 18, 2013, 06:39:55 pm »
Earlier this evening I played a session of 15 games. The good: I won two of them. The bad? None of the others were ties.

I wasn't feeling too sharp (my eyes were half-closed and my head was resting horizontally on the palm of my left hand), but I still thought I was getting terrible luck everywhere, like winning the Gardens split in a Beggar-Gardens mirror but losing the war. The following game, however, made me realize that I was being a bit too kind to myself.

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Pearl Diver, Hermit, Storeroom, Baron, Bridge, Noble Brigand, Sea Hag, Rebuild, Witch, Possession
The advantage of being P2 is that it forces you to spend a bit more time than usual looking at the board, time I fruitfully used to come up with something akin to the following read: there's Hermit and Sea Hag and not much else going on.

I decided that for my $3 I definitely wanted a Hermit, and what to do with my$4 would depend on what my opponent would get. Much to my surprise he opened Silver with $3, and to my complete bafflement followed it up with a Baron (Baron!?) on$4. Now Sea Hag was the obvious choice.

Quite a number of players with a ranking in the 5k-6k range at times make very odd openings, but then fall in line when you show them the ropes, when you lead by example. My present opponent did not belong to that group; with $4 on T3 he stubbornly bought a Silver. On T4 he connected his Baron and was going to spend his$7 on the obvious Gol...

...Rebuild.

If anyone is curious about the so-called "aha-moments" in my Dominion career--moments where things suddenly click, where you feel like having just made a leap of progress, reaching a higher level of understanding--well... this was certainly one of them.

Having awakened, I used my fresh, new-found perspective to look at the board as if for the first time. And indeed, what surprising discoveries I made! Not only could I confirm the existence of Rebuild, but there were even more cards I hadn't yet noticed before, like Witch, and Possession.

I realized that switching to a mirror would be hopeless, but then thought that if I would possess him with Rebuild in hand, I could name Estate to gain a guaranteed Province, a 6VP gain for me, while he could at most gain 3VP from any one Rebuild play.

I think the idea was good, but my execution wasn't quite optimal (I bought 2 Bridges thinking "hmm, Bridge makes Possession cheaper, yeah, that's good"--yes, literally), yet I still came really close, losing by only 3 points.

Lesson 1: Possession as a defense against Rebuild feels like it's worth exploring, provided you can get it quickly and you probably want a way to play it somewhat reliably. Apothecary sounds like excellent support. So does Wharf + Village, which by itself is weaker than Rebuild.

Lesson 2: Despite the many rooms that Goko kindly offers, they are not such a great place to sleep.

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Dominion TableTop Version (Goko Windows App)
« on: November 09, 2013, 02:42:19 pm »
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Experience the official release of Dominion! Developed with Dominion creator (Donald X.) to bring you an outstanding version of Dominion with all officially released expansions (and more coming). This version of Dominion has a TableTop mode specifically for All-In-One Touchscreen PC's (Intel, Sony, HP, Lenovo, and others) so that your family and friends can all play together around one device. Normal individual play modes for both online and offline play are also available in this release. In addition, this version comes bundled with Dominion's Intrigue Part 1 and Seaside Part 1 expansions (normally these expansions are $8 total, you pay$5.99 - a 25% savings). Play online against other Dominion fans, learn the game with our new tutorial, play solo against our multi-level AI's, or try your hand at the campaign-style Adventures and see how far you can get! Dominion is one of the best selling card games of all time -- try it now!

I think it's either regio-restricted or only available for Windows 8.1 as I can't find it in the W8 store, but am able to view it on the website.

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##### Game Reports / There are no +Actions, only... Throne Room
« on: October 19, 2013, 07:27:23 pm »

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Woodcutter, Armory, Bishop, Gardens, Throne Room, Catacombs, Mine, Rabble, Vault, Expand
So I look long and hard at this board (about 8 seconds instead of my usual 2!), find myself tempted by a Throne Room engine, but end up thinking that while there is Necropolis, without at least a cantrip you can throne it would be too inconsistent to work, so I settle for a very boring Vault-BM.

But then Stef pile drives the Throne Rooms and shows me why you should never lose faith in the engine.

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##### Dominion General Discussion / How do you play this board?
« on: August 26, 2013, 07:01:09 pm »

Kingdom: Wishing Well, Baron, Bishop, Farming Village, Ironworks, Baker, Duke, Haggler, Mint, Rabble

I just faced this board in a Gokodom game against Eevee and wasn't quite sure how to play it. At first glance anything seems possible. We have Baker for the 5/3 open and coin tokens, Mint and Bishop for trashing, Wishing Well and Rabble for draw, Farming Village for the actions and as a counter to Rabble, Ironworks and Haggler for gaining, Baron for the +buy and Duke and Bishop for alt-vp.

The Baker token and Haggler are going to speed things up alot. Haggler/Wishing Well seems the obvious open, though does anyone like Haggler/Silver or Ironworks/Baron? And what's your game plan after that? How does it depend on your draws?

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##### Rules Questions / Can Poor House cost you money?
« on: July 05, 2013, 06:52:58 am »
Say my hand is Festival/Poor House/5xCopper. I play Festival, which gives me 2. I now play Poor House, whose card text reads:

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+4
Reveal your hand. -1 per Treasure card in your hand, to a minimum of 0

So I first get +4, which means I now have 6. I then reveal 5 Coppers, each of which gives me -1 to a minimum of 0, but since I have 6, that minimum is never reached and I'll end up with 1 money.

Is this how it works? I always understood the card as that it could give you at worst 0, but a literal interpretation of the wording suggests otherwise.

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##### Help! / How...?
« on: June 29, 2013, 06:55:08 pm »

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##### Game Reports / Trusty Steed indeed
« on: June 28, 2013, 05:54:05 pm »
Kingdom: Oasis, Urchin*, Feast, Fortress, Tournament, Young Witch, Counterfeit, Harvest, Margrave, Minion, Tactician

I waste way too many turns building a fancy double-Tactician engine with Mercenaries trashing Fortresses for economy. My opponent mirrors to some extent, but ends up playing a more money-oriented strategy that gets him a seemingly insurmountable 14-point lead: I need both remaining Provinces and a Duchy for the win, and I need my opponent to not get any more points. With only \$8 and 2 buys in my deck, that sounds like quite the challenge.

So I think, and think, and think... and buy... double tournament.

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##### Goko Dominion Online / How long would he have to wait...?
« on: May 15, 2013, 05:44:56 pm »

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Counterfeit -> Horn of Plenty; bug or not?
« on: May 08, 2013, 03:59:13 am »
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130508/log.505d732a51c359e6597efeb8.1367998252951.txt

In turn 16 I have 2 Counterfeits and 5 HoP's, which I thought would be enough for all the remaining 7 Provinces. However, playing Counterfeit - HoP correctly let's me get the first Province, but then it's trashed (b.c. of the Province buy), yet still played again (b.c. of Counterfeit), however, this time I can't choose a Province, supposedly because the HoP is no longer in play even though I just played it, and after the play it's trashed a second time, this time by Counterfeit:

SheCantSayNo   plays Counterfeit
SheCantSayNo   plays Horn of Plenty
SheCantSayNo   gains Province
SheCantSayNo   trashes Horn of Plenty
SheCantSayNo   plays Horn of Plenty
SheCantSayNo   gains Border Village
SheCantSayNo   gains Horn of Plenty
SheCantSayNo   trashes Horn of Plenty

I think it should let me take a Province both times, and if not that then it shouldn't let me get anything at all the second time, right?

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##### Goko Dominion Online / How long does it take to get the promos?
« on: May 04, 2013, 04:45:16 am »
I would like to have the promos but my experience with Adventure mode is limited to two misclicks on "Leaderboard", after which I quickly refreshed my browser.

I have a little over 16000 coins to buy all the zaps I might need, and I'm willing to spend at most a few hours. Is that doable?

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Something doesn't add up...
« on: April 11, 2013, 04:25:48 am »
In particular, the number of Potions in my hand, my discard pile and the supply:

http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130411/log.505d732a51c359e6597efeb8.1365666776185.txt (and yes, I should have opened Bridge in stead of Potion lol)

The screenshot was taken at Turn 5. And indeed, when I play the Golem it doesn't reveal this ghostly potion:

SheCantSayNo   plays Golem
SheCantSayNo   shuffles deck
SheCantSayNo   reveals Silver, Copper, Estate, Silver, Bridge, Copper, Estate, Copper, Copper, Copper

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##### Goko Dominion Online / An unfamiliar bane
« on: April 09, 2013, 11:36:43 am »

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##### Goko Dominion Online / Playing on Goko in two pictures (and a log)
« on: March 24, 2013, 08:33:13 pm »

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