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Innovation Rules Questions / Free foreshadow action with "If would meld .. instead"?
« on: July 23, 2013, 05:08:09 pm »
An issue came up in a this thread about bugs in isotropic: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=8949.0. I'm posting it here because it applies to the game in general. The foreshadow rule states:
If you take a Meld action (but not when an effect instructs you to meld a card!) you may afterward meld a card from your Forecast that is of equal or lower value than the melded card. You may then take a free Dogma action (not counting as one of your two per turn) choosing the card you melded from your Forecast.
So how does the free Dogma action interact with figures which state "If would meld ... instead". For example, Imhotep says: "If you would meld a card over an unsplayed color with more than one card, instead splay that color left and return the card." So when attempting to meld a card out of forshadow, do you still get to take the free Dogma action even if it wasn't melded? I can think of reasons for both interpretations:
I lean towards "No" because it's not clear how/if you resolve echo effects.
If you take a Meld action (but not when an effect instructs you to meld a card!) you may afterward meld a card from your Forecast that is of equal or lower value than the melded card. You may then take a free Dogma action (not counting as one of your two per turn) choosing the card you melded from your Forecast.
So how does the free Dogma action interact with figures which state "If would meld ... instead". For example, Imhotep says: "If you would meld a card over an unsplayed color with more than one card, instead splay that color left and return the card." So when attempting to meld a card out of forshadow, do you still get to take the free Dogma action even if it wasn't melded? I can think of reasons for both interpretations:
- Yes. You still execute Dogmas on a card even if they are removed by an echo effect. This is similar. The fact that the the card wasn't melded doesn't prevent you from getting your action.
- No. The FAQ states that "instead" karmas prevent "If you do" dogma effects. The card was never melded so you can't get a free action from the "melded" card.
I lean towards "No" because it's not clear how/if you resolve echo effects.