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Rules Questions / Sequence point of Knights

« on: October 03, 2018, 01:16:12 am »

Three players.
Player A plays a knight.
Player B reveals a knight and a Rats.
Player B asks if he may see what 2 cards player C reveals before he decides what to trash.
We ruled that player B must trash before player C reveals 2 cards. Was that right?

The FAQ says: "The ability they have in common is, each other player reveals the top two cards of their deck, trashes one of them that they choose that costs from $3 to $6, and discards the rest; then, if a Knight was trashed, you trash the Knight you played that caused this trashing. Resolve this ability in turn order, starting with the player to your left."

The wording "the ability" suggests that revealing and trashing is an uninterruptible unit and that there is no sequence point after the revealing.

But if player B chooses to trash the Rats, the +1 card should still happen before player B's knight is discarded. So there is some finer grained structure of sequence points that on-trash can latch on, but per-player cannot.

In general, how can I know where the sequence points of a card are? Is only each full-stop or semicolon a sequence point? And which sequence points are for on-something interrupt effects and which sequence points are for per-player?

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Rules Questions / Band of Misfits, no cheaper cards in supply

« on: October 17, 2013, 05:11:36 pm »

Hi,

can a player play Band of Misfits when there are no cheaper action cards to impersonate in the supply?

If yes, what happens?

If no, how are forcings handled, e.g. Golem reveals BoM, Throne Room (whose pile is exhausted) played with only BoM in hand, ...?

I've houseruled that BoM is a blank action card. It counts normally as an action card played and as in play. Reasoning: "Play this as I it were a cheaper card..." is to be executed, cannot do this, so everything on the card fails.

I'm aware that the card text on BoM is not usual instructions. Usual instructions could be prepended with "when you play this", while keeping the effect the same. "When you play this" happens after playing the card, but "play this as if it were a ..." happens at the same time. When the "if" fails, will "play this as if..." be replaced with "play this card normally, but watch everything fail", or with "when you would play this, you can't play this"?

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Rules Questions / Public information? Number of cards in discard/deck/...

« on: November 20, 2012, 02:49:02 am »

Hey.

We had these questions coming up last night, and didn't find satisfying information in the rule books yet:

• Can you count the number of cards in your draw deck? In other people's decks?
• Can you count the number of cards in your discard pile? In other people's discards? (The friends agreed that only the top card of the pile may be examined, but couldn't agree whether the number of hidden cards was.)
• Can you count the number of cards in any player's hand? (Probably only useful if the aforementioned piles may be counted.)
• Can you count the number of cards in the trash? Can you examine every trashed card at any time? (We figured it's the latter.)
• Can you count the number of cards in each supply pile? Can you examine all the cards in each supply pile? (I think you may count, but not examine knights/ruins.)
• Can you count the number of cards in the black market deck?

MtG explicitly states "A player may count the number of cards in any player's library/hand/pile at any time.", while not allowing examination. How about here?

These things came up in a Gardens game, but one guy is seriously pondering about running a small reallife tournament, where things like these must be agreed upon beforehand. We also don't want to houserule this.

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Rules Questions / Count: trash hand containing Rats (+1 card on trash)

« on: September 06, 2012, 07:58:42 pm »

Hi,

When I trash the hand with Count, how does it resolve in detail? Do all the cards in hand get trashed simultaenously or can I choose order? Are the cards in hand just marked as to-be-trashed, or will extra cards entering the hand during "trash your hand" trashed as well?

Case study: I have a hand with a Count and a Rats. I play the Count, trashing all the cards in the hand. When trashing the Rats, I get +1 card. Does this drawn card get trashed? (I don't have the rulebook with me, don't know whether that's ansewerd in the FAQ.)