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Other Games / Re: Dicey Dungeons
« on: July 30, 2018, 05:25:50 pm »
As thief, a highly amusing (and viable!) strategy is to use the stolen transform ability to play as a bear. You remain a bear for the rest of the game.

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but online doesn't create revenue for Donald X.

Is this true (zero revenue for Donald) or just mostly true (tiny revenue compared to IRL)? Curious.

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If hidden commuter could target people, what's the nerf? Maybe it would be better to have a random scum be hidden commuter each night, and they can't target people.

I looked back at Day 3. I might have hammered. Lalight hammered so far before deadline I hadn't had to make a decision. But I do remember, as I said Day 4, that a lot of the reasoning about Galzria/Hydrad seemed flawed to me at the time and that made me suspicious and I didn't want to just go along.

Having a teammate who can't target anyone and who doesn't know that would be a huge nerf to mafia. Hidden commuter can still be a nerf because a commuter returns "No result" to trackers in a setup where it is all but guaranteed for there to be one tracker and the most likely roles after that is a second tracker.

Hidden commuter was the wrong term though. The modifier should have been called hidden self rolestopper.

For reference, what does ninja kill return on being tracked?

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So your first shot on me, you didn't know I was SK? Or was I tracked beforehand.

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Did you rolestop Galzria or roleblock me?

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I actually Tracked O N1. I wonder how the game would have gone had I not died.

I said in my QT that I wasn't sure you were a tracker, but I was sure you would track me if you were.

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I definitely think Scum had a better chance if they didn't throw two nightkills at me after finding the SK. The only reason it was this close is that Gkriegs bulletproof fakeout made me believe my only wincon was to burn Cuzz's bulletproof status.

I'm also glad that the bulletproofing fakeout worked!

Wait I'm saying it didn't really work. If I thought Cuzz didnt have bulletproof I would have just shot EFHW/LaLight/maybe datswan to try and kill off the last scum, and then shoot Cuzz the next day. I was pretty confident Cuzz wouldn't track me that night.

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Also it's super frustrating to be SK (a team of one) and to shoot mafia (a team of three) twice and have NEITHER kill go thru due to the mafias PR advantage over me.

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I definitely think Scum had a better chance if they didn't throw two nightkills at me after finding the SK. The only reason it was this close is that Gkriegs bulletproof fakeout made me believe my only wincon was to burn Cuzz's bulletproof status.

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I'll also just reiterate that if you're coming back to this with whether or not certain steps should be granted, you're missing the point.
This post is about the denier, not the denied. It's about how your approach affects your experience and your development as a player and as a person, not about the game rules or the moral justification behind requesting the undo in the first place.
I'm sharing some insight on how to improve your relationship with the playerbase, your skill as a player, and yourself. How you choose to react to that and what you choose to do with it is 100% your call.
You might find more of an open ear if you took care to not make your posts sound patronizing. This is just me sharing some insight on how to improve your relationship with f.ds, your skill as a poster, and yourself. How you choose to react to that and what you choose to do with it is 100% your call.

I think his response was a correct one to posters pedantry. They were entirely missing the point. If the patronizing aspect of that is bothersome, perhaps don't derail threads with irrelevant hypotheticals of "undo abuse" that aren't frequent real
I'll also just reiterate that if you're coming back to this with whether or not certain steps should be granted, you're missing the point.
This post is about the denier, not the denied. It's about how your approach affects your experience and your development as a player and as a person, not about the game rules or the moral justification behind requesting the undo in the first place.
I'm sharing some insight on how to improve your relationship with the playerbase, your skill as a player, and yourself. How you choose to react to that and what you choose to do with it is 100% your call.
You might find more of an open ear if you took care to not make your posts sound patronizing. This is just me sharing some insight on how to improve your relationship with f.ds, your skill as a poster, and yourself. How you choose to react to that and what you choose to do with it is 100% your call.

To tell you the truth, I haven't had much of a problem finding an open ear (it is the information age, after all). Plenty of closed ones too, but that's alright. They've always been around, and they always will be. Nothing has ever been about them.

Agreed. People on F.ds react very poorly to their unhelpful pedantry being called out. I wouldn't say your post has been poorly received at all and I don't think you were patronizing in the slightest.

Actually, I think posting those wishing well hypotheticals in the first place is the more patronizing thing to do.

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Taking bets on Rolestopper or Commuter

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But you didn't say that Cuzz was, and it's Cuzz who basically confirms you as scum.

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SK = S

Tracker, UB, Drunk, (claimed) 1-shot BP = OOPL, OPPL, LLPP.

So yes Gkrieg did claim the most likely other role. Of course the claim being the most likely role is expected regardless of alignment, so Space's argument is a pretty big stretch.

Nice to know that either Gkrieg is a liar or we have 1T or 0T to deal with, so highly likely there's more Rolestopper shots. Which makes Gkrieg's volunteering the information even crazier.


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Like this is a potentially throwing away a near free win level of mistake..

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I simultaneously believe you and can't imagine a single reason why both claiming that AND claiming who you will bulletproof is beneficial in any way.

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Honestly Iíve never liked that. I usually think no result should be used for both targeted no one AND your action failed. But in this case itís probably more balanced

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Because no result is different than ďtargeted no oneĒ so space either was rolestopped or commuter, both of which imply scum

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@gkriek, you are totally mischaracterizing my objection to the Galz lynch: I was definitely not arguing he was town, but that I preferred not to push someone who I thought had a strong chance of flipping SK, and wanted to push a wagon that had a higher chance of not losing the game.

sK was even more likely than town to be quick hammered by scum. If scum knew a hypothetical galz was SK they would win on the spot by hammering. So you refused to vote for galz because for some reason you thought scum had less knowledge and intuition than you, or because scum was all three of the wagon.

Either way I donít buy it for a second

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It wasn't just a read at that point. There were numerous direct implications that GalzHydrad being town would imply. You ignored people when they asked you to state which of the few scenarios in which GalzHydrad!Town was possible was even remotely likely (the reality: none of them were remotely likely).

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How does Hidden Commuter work? It's not really clear at all

1) Is the commuting mandatory
2) Can scum take actions while commuting
3) Is commuting "hidden" in that scum does not know they're a commuter, or only in that it does not show up on flips.

As I understand it, the commuting is mandatory but mafia can still take actions. They also donít know which one has it.

So... one of the scum is potentially entirely immune to any actions by any other role except the Dayvig? I don't think that's a balanced scenario at all.




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How does Hidden Commuter work? It's not really clear at all

1) Is the commuting mandatory
2) Can scum take actions while commuting
3) Is commuting "hidden" in that scum does not know they're a commuter, or only in that it does not show up on flips.

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Vote: Space

Don't think we can consider this a LYLO or MYLO situation and am very confident that Space is scum given their utter derailment of GalzaDrad's lynch yesterday.

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@Datswan

Scum either hit 1) A bulletproofed person or 2) the SK, with SK being more likely. SK either hit 1) A rolestopped scum, 2) A bulletproofed person, 3) A commuter scum, with Rolestopped > Commuter > Bulletproofed being the most likely.


After Space there is a big dropoff. Gkrieg is out of my lynch pool (maybe permanently?  definitely for today). Then there's EFHW, Then you/LaLight (maybe you over LaLight), than Cuzz who is liable to change positions because of his lurking. 

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Space is definitely the scummiest of the three.

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I don't even know that Sheff would be dying. SK and Scum both still alive

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