Hi everyone!
Vote: cayvie, where did you find Straw?
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Hi! As Cayvie has said, she found me in champs spec chat (never bet against cayvie BTW). I'm from the mafia board on 17th Shard.
so this appears to be a Dethy variant, and most of these are solvable wins for town. specifically, this seems quite similar to 7-player Dethy (2 mafia, 4 cops of varying skill, 1 vig). However, the difference here is that the vig doesn't know they're a vig, so that solution won't work.
My initial thought here is that everyone should target the people we personally find *scummiest* with our abilities; the most valuable thing a doctor can do is to vig a carrier. and two doctors have a chance of doing that (quack, CPR doc).
thoughts?
other considerations: do we announce our intended targets (with the nurse lying)? that would help us in the case that the weak doctor targets a carrier. my instinct is no, that this helps carriers more than it helps town, but idk.
I agree that we should try to pick scum. However, I think the best plan is everyone picking exactly 1 person, most likely in a single chain (we could use setup order, for example, but I hate that). If everyone picks scumreads, then the chances of vigging scum are severely lowered, as the real docs will also pick them. Besides, if we spread out, we make sure the vig is unapposed, and we can learn from the weak doctor.
With this I suggest we all announce our targets, and try to coordinate a chain of 8 people all targeting each other in a circle, with the 9th person replacing whoever we exile. Exiling doesn't break knowing exactly which doctors there are, since the nurse replaces them.
I have a pretty convoluted plan for picking how we setup the chain, but that's not very important right now.
I'll have to think more about the chain, but it does seem to be a good idea. Hopefully we'd be able to figure out several roles from it.
For exiling today, I'd be in favor. I think not exiling would give us too little information, and D1 is particularly important given how short this game will probably be.
For nurse, anyone have thoughts on them claiming or not? I'd be in favor of them claiming near EoD.
Cayvie, I think there's theoretically a situation where scum wins at the start of D2:
-7 v 2 (start of game)
-6 v 2 (mis-exile villager)
-5 v 2 (mafia kill)
-4 v 2 (weak doc hits mafia)
-3 v 2 (CPR doc hits villager)
-2 v 2 (quack doc hits villager)
Not very likely though, since literally everything would have to go wrong.
