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Forum Games / Mafia Championship Season 11 Invite
« on: March 16, 2024, 06:06:19 pm »
It's that time of the year again!



INVITATION TO THE MAFIA CHAMPIONSHIP (SEASON 11)

Ahoy there! :)

I’m very excited to invite your community to participate in Season 11 of the Mafia Championship.

The Mafia Championship is an annual forum-based tournament series that pits representatives from various online Mafia (aka Werewolf) communities against one another as they compete to determine the Internet’s greatest forum Mafia players. Each participating community democratically elects one person to represent them and be their “Champion”.

The tournament first started back in 2013. Since then, 380+ different communities and 50+ different nationalities have been represented.

It’s a super fun event that has created many new friendships and close bonds between communities. I hope that you would be interested in taking part :)

1. DO YOU ACCEPT THE INVITATION?

If your community wishes to participate, please confirm your participation to Lissa or Arapocalypse as soon as you can to ensure yourselves a spot. Currently, the plan is to accommodate 120 communities this season. If there is further interest, additional communities may sign up as substitutes; generally there are some replacements needed both before and during games.

If your community agrees to participate, the deadline for selecting your representative is April 20th, but the sooner the better.

The games will take place on Mafia Universe. If it’s okay, I can link directly to the general discussion thread regarding this topic on Mafia Universe.

Important notes
  • You may decide yourselves how you want to elect your representative, but we highly recommend some sort of democratic process (public nominations followed by a poll usually works out well).
  • In addition to electing a representative, you should also name an alternate who will be asked to step in if the first choice needs to back out.
  • Your representative should be prepared for having to read upwards of 600-700 posts per 24 hours during the early stages of the game. Additionally, there’s a requirement that each player must make at least 10 posts per Game Day. Only active players should apply/participate. I repeat: Your chosen player needs to be able to promise a good amount of activity on a daily basis!
2. SEASON 11 FORMAT

The tournament structure
  • 120 communities will participate, each sending one representative.
  • QUALIFIERS: 8 Qualifier Games will be played, consisting of 15 players each. I.e. every representative plays in one Qualifier Game. The players themselves vote post-game to determine who is deserving of advancement. 1st and 2nd place will advance to the Semifinal Games.
  • SEMIFINALS: A Jury consisting of finalists from Season 8 will select 27 additional players to advance to the three Semifinal Games. From each game, five players will advance to the Finale Game based on a post-game player vote, just like in the qualifying phase.
  • THE FINALE: The Finale Game is played. Once it has completed, the winning team will receive the title of Season 11 Champions and a winner’s certificate signed by Dmitry Davidoff, the creator of mafia. Players will also vote for additional awards including Best Team Player and Best Sportsmanship.
The qualifier games will be played using the Matrix Mayhem 5x5 setup (see below for more details), and the semifinal/finale games will be played using a different setup(s). The semifinal/finale setup(s) will be finalized around the end of June, for which the candidate setups are detailed here.

This year’s qualifier setup: Matrix Mayhem 5x5



The setup is determined by randomly selecting one row or column from the above matrix, and then adding 9 Vanilla Townies and 1 Mafia Goon. This will always result in 12 Town members (3 of which are Power Roles) and 3 Mafia members (1 or 2 of which are Power Roles).

  • For example, if Column A was randomly selected, the setup would be a Town 3-shot Tracker, Town JOAT, Town Odd Night Doctor, 9 Vanilla Townies, Mafia 2-shot Watcher, Mafia Roleblocker, and Mafia Goon.

Mafia flips will only reveal the alignment of the Mafia player, whereas Town flips will reveal the full role of the Town player.
The following roles are non-consecutive (cannot target the same player 2 nights in a row): Town 3-shot Roleblocker and Town Inventor (1x Track, 1x Roleblock).

Each of the Town JOAT's abilities may only be used once throughout the game.

Some alterations may be made to this setup before qualifiers start, but they will be minor if any.

Relevant mechanics info
- Day start.
- Majority elimination will not be enabled during day 1 and is not required at any point for the elimination. Starting on Day 2 and until MYLO/LYLO, majority will be enabled at 12 hours after SoD (in 36/12s and 48/24s) OR at 24 hours after SoD (in 72/24s). MYLO/LYLOs are exceptions, during which majority will be enabled immediately.
- Tied votes will result in a player being eliminated at random from among the tied players.
- No outside communication. I.e. you may not contact the other players outside of the thread (unless you are Mafia and wish to speak with your teammates).
- Phase Lengths and Deadlines will be up to the players themselves (I’ll organize your representative into a game with deadlines that suit their preferences).
- Thread is locked during Night Phases.
- Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO.
- Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction. The mafia faction kill is mandatory.
- Mafia may communicate at any time.
- Each individual player may make a maximum of 125 posts per day phase (this restriction is lifted 1 hour before day end).
- The game will have a host to oversee everything and make sure everyone’s following the code of conduct, but otherwise the game is completely automated (automatic votecounts, thread locks and reveals alignments automatically, the bot receives and processes actions, etc.).

3. SEASON 11 TIMELINE

There will be 8 Qualifier Games, and your representative plays in just one of these. They will have start dates ranging from the end of April to mid-June. So in other words, as long as your representative can play sometime during that period, they should be good and I’ll make sure they get scheduled into a game that suits their schedule well. I.e. if your rep is busy until June, that isn’t a problem.

The Semifinal Games will be played in July/August, and the Finale Game sometime in August/September (whenever we can work out something that suits everyone).

If you want to get in contact with us ASAP, you can reach us on Discord at lissa2 (Lissa#8083) or Arapocalypse (Arapocalypse#0834).

Kind regards,
Lissa



We haven't played for almost a year but I think we should still send a representative. Surely there's someone that still has the mafia bug that can only be satiated with forum mafia. I'm one of those people, at least.

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Forum Games / Re: ZM24 - Hangman Mafia, Round 2
« on: March 31, 2023, 07:26:52 am »
What are your preferences regarding semi-blitz/full-blitz/long?

Semi blitz sounds perfect.

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Forum Games / Re: ZM24 - Hangman Mafia, Round 2
« on: March 29, 2023, 10:18:28 am »
re-/in

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Forum Games / Mafia Championship Season 10 Invite
« on: March 26, 2023, 08:14:43 pm »
It's that time of the year again!



INVITATION TO THE MAFIA CHAMPIONSHIP (SEASON 10)

Ahoy there! :)

I’m very excited to invite your community to participate in Season 10 of the Mafia Championship.

The Mafia Championship is an annual forum-based tournament series that pits representatives from various online Mafia (aka Werewolf) communities against one another as they compete to determine the Internet’s greatest forum Mafia player. Each participating community democratically elects one person to represent them and be their “Champion”.

The tournament first started back in 2013. Since then, 370+ different communities and 50+ different nationalities have been represented.

It’s a super fun event that has created many new friendships and close bonds between communities. I hope that you would be interested in taking part :)

1. DO YOU ACCEPT THE INVITATION?

If your community wishes to participate, please confirm your participation to Lissa or Arapocalypse as soon as you can to ensure yourselves a spot. Currently, the plan is to accommodate 135 communities this season. If there is further interest, additional communities may sign up as substitutes; generally there are some replacements needed both before and during games.

If your community agrees to participate, the deadline for selecting your representative is April 22nd, but the sooner the better.

The games will take place on Mafia Universe. If it’s okay, I can link directly to the general discussion thread regarding this topic on Mafia Universe.

Important notes
  • You may decide yourselves how you want to elect your representative, but we highly recommend some sort of democratic process (public nominations followed by a poll usually works out well).
  • In addition to electing a representative, you should also name an alternate who will be asked to step in if the first choice needs to back out.
  • Your representative should be prepared for having to read upwards of 600-700 posts per 24 hours during the early stages of the game. Additionally, there’s a requirement that each player must make at least 10 posts per Game Day. Only active players should apply/participate. I repeat: Your chosen player needs to be able to promise a good amount of activity on a daily basis!
2. SEASON 10 FORMAT

The tournament structure
  • 135 communities will participate, each sending one representative.
  • QUALIFIERS: 9 Qualifier Games will be played, consisting of 15 players each. I.e. every representative plays in one Qualifier Game. The players themselves vote post-game to determine who is deserving of advancement. 1st and 2nd place will advance to the Semifinal Games.
  • SEMIFINALS: A Jury consisting of finalists from Season 8 will select 27 additional players to advance to the three Semifinal Games. From each game, five players will advance to the Finale Game based on a post-game player vote, just like in the qualifying phase.
  • THE FINALE: The Finale Game is played. Once it has completed, the players vote to determine who shall receive the title of Season 10 Champion and a winner’s certificate signed by Dmitry Davidoff, the creator of mafia.
The qualifier games will be played with the Adapt 6 setup (see the Season 10 Qualifiers Setup tab for more details), and the semifinal/finale games will be played using a different setup. The semifinal/finale setup will be a low-powered 15-player setup, with full details to be disclosed when the jury's semifinal advances are revealed.

This year’s qualifier setup: Adapt 6
Each of the 6 columns from the below table represents a different constituent setup, one of which will be chosen at random and used for the game:

AnalyseDeterAll-roundProtectTrack6lock
Town Odd Night Tracker

Town Even Night Vanilla Cop

Town 2-shot Doctor

9x Vanilla Town

Mafia 2-shot Watcher

Mafia Roleblocker


Mafia Goon
Town Jack of All Trades

Town 2-shot Roleblocker


Town Odd Night Doctor

9x Vanilla Town

Mafia Roleblocker

Mafia Jack of All Trades


Mafia Goon
Town Jack of All Trades

Town Even Night Vanilla Cop

10x Vanilla Town

Mafia Jack of All Trades

2x Mafia Goon
Town Odd Night Doctor

Town Even Night Jailkeeper


10x Vanilla Town

Mafia 1-shot Jailkeeper

2x Mafia Goon
Town Odd Night Tracker

Town 2-shot Doctor

10x Vanilla Town

Mafia 1-shot Tracker

2x
Mafia Goon
Town 2-shot Roleblocker

Town Even Night Jailkeeper

10x Vanilla Town


Mafia 1-shot Roleblocker

2x Mafia Goon

Town Jack of All Trades has 1x Doctor, 1x Motion Detect and 1x Roleblock.

Mafia Jack of All Trades has 1x Role Cop and 1x Roleblock.

Town 2-shot Doctor, Town 2-shot Roleblocker and Mafia Roleblocker are non-consecutive (cannot target the same player two nights in a row). Doctor actions can't self-target.

Mafia flips only show the alignment of the Mafia player, whereas Town flips show the full role of the Town player.

Relevant mechanics info
- Day start.
- Majority elimination will not be enabled during day 1 and is not required at any point for the elimination. Starting on Day 2 and until LYLO, majority will be enabled at 12 hours after SoD (in 36/12s and 48/24s) OR at 24 hours after SoD (in 72/24s). LYLOs are an exception to the majority delay, during which majority will be enabled immediately.
- Tied votes will result in a player being eliminated at random from among the tied players.
- No outside communication. I.e. you may not contact the other players outside of the thread (unless you are Mafia and wish to speak with your teammates).
- Phase Lengths and Deadlines will be up to the players themselves (I’ll organize your representative into a game with deadlines that suit their preferences).
- Thread is locked during Night Phases.
- Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO.
- Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction. The mafia faction kill is mandatory.
- Mafia may communicate at any time.
- Each individual player may make a maximum of 125 posts per day phase (this restriction is lifted 1 hour before day end).
- The game will have a host to oversee everything and make sure everyone’s following the code of conduct, but otherwise the game is completely automated (automatic votecounts, thread locks and reveals alignments automatically, the bot receives and processes actions, etc.).

3. SEASON 10 TIMELINE

There will be 9 Qualifier Games, and your representative plays in just one of these. They will have start dates ranging from the end of April to mid-June. So in other words, as long as your representative can play sometime during that period, they should be good and I’ll make sure they get scheduled into a game that suits their schedule well. I.e. if your rep is busy until June, that isn’t a problem.

The Semifinal Games will be played in July/August, and the Finale Game sometime in August/September (whenever we can work out something that suits everyone).

If you want to get in contact with us ASAP, or if you’re signing up to MU and need your account approved, you can reach us on Discord at Lissa#8083 or Arapocalypse#0834.

Kind regards,
Lissa



I recommend anyone that is available to join, this puts mafia on a whole different perspective.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 20, 2023, 08:07:57 pm »
Cool I was right that scola was SM.

This was the last time scola gets to use the "I'm always awkward Day 1" excuse!

No, no it's not. We just need to replace mathdude with scola from now on, aka exile them regardless of what they say.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 20, 2023, 11:03:48 am »
What I do do as scum is pushing cases on townies only exactly the right amount to avoid them actually getting exiled, which lets me continue tunneling the same people the next day, which I haven't done here — I was indeed an instrumental part of both town exiles and I'm pretty sure both of them were popular enough to have supporters off-wagon.

Is this true? What a weird thing to disclose now.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 20, 2023, 08:40:57 am »
Well, it's not me and scola. That would be funny though.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 20, 2023, 07:27:17 am »
Cool, so I wasn't totally wrong in my scumreads! Although this means it's less likely to be both, but not by much.

I'll reread now, but gut tells me we flip scola first. And yes I'm still scumreading both scola and awaclus more than joth and Didds.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 19, 2023, 08:29:32 am »
Yeah it's pretty stupid I agree.

I don't really have the motivation to reread when I think it's scola and awaclus and neither are doing anything today. I'll put effort in F3 100% but today, I might not.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 17, 2023, 12:22:05 am »
Hello.

I'm waiting for scola and especially Awaclus.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 16, 2023, 01:05:51 am »
Well. We're going to lose. Not joth, joth's gonna win, but we will.

I didn't reread because I had no idea who would die, and also I think today should be me or Awaclus.

I presume scum is scola and joth and we lose, which is why I'm pessimistic. What does everyone else think?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 12, 2023, 10:38:44 am »
I still don't have a good read on anyone this game. Those who seem the most scummy to me are ones I almost always find scummy, often just based on their posting style. But since it looks like there's no chance of me surviving, I might as well offer what final thoughts I have, to see if they may be of any help tomorrow to try and find at least 1 scum this game.

Right now, I feel like scum is one of MiX and Awaclus, then one of gk and joth. I don't have anything concrete to back up this guess... it's just a gut feel.

Scum-to-chum list:
Awaclus
MiX
joth
gk
scola
WCD

I really don't think there's anything the last two have done that is overly townie. They just haven't done as much that I see as scummy.

Do you want us to kill me/Awaclus if you flip today?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 11, 2023, 06:10:51 pm »
Good point. I suppose if I'm confident in my world I should test it instead of trying to win more.

Vote: math, X-2 by the way.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 11, 2023, 05:16:40 pm »

MiX, why Scola over Math? I’m ready to vote for Math, but I want to make sure I’m not missing anything.

Because I think they're both scum. Honestly it doesn't matter for me, I just think that if scola flips scum then mathdude's more likely to be scum than the other way around, so voting scola first technically helps flip both.

How realistic do you think it is we'll exile someone other than math tomorrow if scola flips town?

Not realistic at all. Why do you ask?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 11, 2023, 05:20:53 am »

MiX, why Scola over Math? I’m ready to vote for Math, but I want to make sure I’m not missing anything.

Because I think they're both scum. Honestly it doesn't matter for me, I just think that if scola flips scum then mathdude's more likely to be scum than the other way around, so voting scola first technically helps flip both.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 10, 2023, 01:04:50 pm »
How about we stop thinking about how Swowl never makes everything clear and start thinking in the correct world...

Mathdude. A readlist? Please? Anything.

As I said, it makes more sense to wait until closer to the deadline.  Can you give me an argument otherwise?

Theory is cool how about you make a scum to chum list so we can look at it after we exile you.

My list alone will probably be pretty useless.  I admit I have very weak reads this game.  On top of that, I know I will have a slightly biased scum-read towards those who target me the most (I always do).

I assume it would be better to do this closer to the deadline, rather than this early in the day.  Let's let gk and joth actually contribute to this day - otherwise their places in the list will be quite meaningless (if they were even put in the list).  But if I am up for exile, I trust someone would post an intent-to-hammer, and give time for me to post such a list, rather than a quick-hammer (which would be very scummy).

Did you read that and ignore it?  Do you just post without reading responses directly to your posts/requests?

I intend to put you to X-1 if you don't give a readslist right now so might as well speed up the process.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 10, 2023, 11:18:49 am »
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

No we don't, I'm objectively correct and you're objectively wrong. If scum can't correctly estimate how the info will make others act in the future, there is no reason to expect our estimation to be correct either, since we're making it with less info than scum is making theirs with.

Okay yes giving scum information is bad but also helping town go through thought processes can help them get better reads. Basically, not all information is worse than it not being given.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 10, 2023, 10:06:04 am »
How about we stop thinking about how Swowl never makes everything clear and start thinking in the correct world...

Mathdude. A readlist? Please? Anything.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 10, 2023, 08:09:30 am »
Vote: scola

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 10, 2023, 08:09:21 am »
I haven't had time for a reread and may not.

Town is small enough now that a towncore approach appeals.

Right now I'm strongly townreading MiX and Didds. Awaclus too, though I'm a bit more wary there. That leaves scum somewhere in scola, gkrieg, or mathdude. I definitely get the sense that gkrieg and mathdude are both people who've had multiple wagons on them that didn't stick, which normally would be scummy, but given the nature of this game it may not be (since there was effectively 1 scum the first couple days).

I think it's a little odd that the day opening post didn't actual identify the night's victim. Can we get confirmation that LaLight was killed by scum rather than modkilled?

If this PoE is right then we win, yay. Also, the original post for opening the day said that LaLight died.

So you think scum no-killed? Why would they do that?

We know they didn't kill.

The LaLight kill (if indeed it is such) sort of points to scum being one person who's had a lot of suspicion on them and one who's had very little.

Because if scum is like gkrieg-math, why not kill MiX or Didds or Awa, who all seem to be kind of aligned in that direction? But if the scum is, say, Awaclus-gkreig, then better to keep the strong town allies in play.

But even if Awaclus is scum, which I seem to be talking myself around to, I still would rather get the partner today, on the basis that it seems easier to get the consensus, especially because I 100% believe Awaclus will bus without a second thought.

Does scum!Awaclus vote his partner right out of the gate in a game where his partner only needs 4 votes to be exiled? Feels a bit too gutsy.

LaLight dying because of his posting in the thread when it's locked is a real possibility. Alternatively, LaLight was voting math, right? So if you want to save math you need to kill every townie, because every townie's gunning for math.

Overall I think the scum team is exactly scola SM and math traitor.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 09, 2023, 11:23:10 pm »
Theory is cool how about you make a scum to chum list so we can look at it after we exile you.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 09, 2023, 08:54:28 pm »
Also I am townlocking Didds for that post. If you have a problem, please present me a bad Didds post.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 09, 2023, 08:54:07 pm »
You can reread mathdude and vote him, that would be nice. Alternatively you can read Awaclus and see if he's town or scum. I think that's the two main questions this game.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 08, 2023, 09:39:39 pm »
I guess I misinterpreted your D3 post...

Basically people don't vote no exile when you want a discussion because voting no exile means you don't want a discussion. So by voting no exile I assumed you didn't want a discussion. You even said things like "why wait until tomorrow" and "it's clearly the best vote".

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M139 - Godfather Mafia - DAY 1
« on: March 08, 2023, 07:22:56 pm »
Does anyone think yesterday ending so quickly was weird? I mean, No exile was the right thing to do, but why not allow time for discussion?

We can't do anything during the night, scum can, so any information we could have generated by discussing yesterday instead of today would have strictly benefited scum.

I get your point and if there were any PRs I would agree.

But in a game with only vanilla roles, I don't think it really matters which of us scum target from a "who's left" perspective, while evaluating the NK as a reaction to that discussion could be.

Wait why are you saying this you literally voted no exile yesterday and made the complete opposite argument.

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