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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 11:37:35 pm »
Also I have been politely hinting or asking or whatever.

But MiX/Scola need to full claim. like rn.

Like, why?

If theirs any possibility that scum hosts can't NK humans, why would you provide that info?

the 100% certainty that we need to have all the information available out in the open out weighs the off chance scenario you have presented.

Also, I did not ask for a host/human claim. I asked for a full claim. So I will meet you in the middle.

Let's call it "all information you have barring if you are host/human".

I just don't see how knowing human vs host helps town at the moment. Even without this scenario being true, I think it is more likely to help scum.

That said, I'm not sure what else you would want me to claim - I believe I've claimed everything else.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 10:35:17 pm »
Also I have been politely hinting or asking or whatever.

But MiX/Scola need to full claim. like rn.

Like, why?

If theirs any possibility that scum hosts can't NK humans, why would you provide that info?

And how does it help town, in practical terms?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 10:30:19 pm »
Also I have been politely hinting or asking or whatever.

But MiX/Scola need to full claim. like rn.

Like, why?

If theirs any possibility that scum hosts can't NK humans, why would you provide that info?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 05:33:20 pm »
Yams, what are the powers you have left?

I can make a host a lightning rod for humans, I can roleblock their actions for the night, and I can doctor them. Those are the ones I haven't used

What's your name?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 04:46:22 pm »
I think Swowl shooting mail-mi is not the worst idea. mail-mi flipping scum is maybe the only way town will ever start townreading me again.

And when mail-mi flips town?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M130: Star Trek: Voyager mafia (Day One)
« on: August 04, 2020, 04:44:14 pm »
Hi all. This feels like it will be quite different from any of my previously played games (design wise). But looks fun.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« on: August 04, 2020, 02:09:30 pm »
We had what is increasingly looking like a trio of town wagons on D1 that just never went away, with an impressive seven seconds until deadline exiling joth.

Then our groot died overnight but I think that was just scum shooting an engaged player not an intentional shot at the tree (who I think was the doc?). Either way it's not great.


Now we're on D2 and most folks agree we need to review new players but there seems to be a low motivation to move forward.

I think we need to XAL, personally. If I were scum and play were this slow I'd be happy to just minimally post and not push the game very hard.

XAL? (I get that XAL may be be replacing LAL, but I wouldn't know what that meant anyway)

exile all lurkers. Which in this game is a majority of the roster, unfortunately self included today.  I've had a tunnel of a scum read on MiX and have been rereading and have just been struggling to get a read on anyone apart from that scumread.  I'll try reading back again, maybe do an iso on a couple different people to figure out what alternatives there are to MiX, although frankly I would still very much be on board with an exile there. I think some of the push away from the D1 wagons could actually be partners pushing us away from that.

Also, I saw this looking over the setup again earlier, but scum has daychat, which could also partially contribute to the lack of in-thread conversations. I've never been scum in a game that had that, so I don't know how easy/difficult it would be to be active in both if a person's time online is limited.

Yeah, daychat for scum is interesting.

Normally, I'd say lurking is not the best reason to exile, as I tend to get into "lurking periods" and the one time I did exile a lurker vs not (it was a 3 person Lylo), I was wrong. But, I do agree that the daychat dynamic changes thing some.

Which, WIFOM, but makes me wonder if Dylan bringing it up is an attempt to appear towny.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 02:05:09 pm »
If anyone is interested, I'd love to see a recap of what are all the roles. (I could maybe take a crack at it tonight, if no one else gets to it first).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 02:04:29 pm »
There's a trigger that lets hosts kill humans. We just need to find out what it is...

Do we know such a trigger exists? I believe it could, just don't want to go back and reread to find it.

And do we need to find it? Wouldn't that benefit scum in this hyopthesis?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 02:02:55 pm »
That's actually a good point though -- we need to take MiX's vig into account if our theory is that scum doesn't have a nightkill but is compensating with other tools. Maybe MiX is scum.

Not no NK, but no NK of humans. (at least that's my hypothesis)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 02:01:51 pm »
That said, and I'm now possibly contradicting myself -

I had early posited a hypothesis that all scum are hosts. Let's look at that again.

In the show, hosts can't hurt humans. So what if? They are all hosts, can only NK other hosts, and have to use other special ways of killing (or exile) to get rid of humans.

that could explain the no NKs, i.e. at the time of night there were no town hosts alive. (Didds may be a town host, but she was dead); Joth could be a scum host.

Something like that at least.

That I was already dead explains N3. 

N2 is not as clear... unless they tried to shoot a host but it wasn't a host and it failed?

You were dead both N2 and N3, right? You died D2, D3 requested maintenance, and were rezzed for D4.

I really do think joth is likely scum. I think it'd be a clever tactic on N1 (given D1 we exiled town) to NK one of their own. (also guarantees a successful NK if there's any truth to the above ^^^)

No.... I died on D3 and then was fixed by faust on D4. I was a MiX kill, not a NK.

On D1 Hypercube exiled
N1 Joth died
D2 ADK is exiled
N2 no one died, Joth had analysis mode with Swan
D3 Joth rezzed, MiX dayvigs WCD, Awaclus is exiled, yams makes ADK permadead
N3 no one died, ADK and WCD had analysis with faust
D4: WCD is rezzed, ADK rez fails

Oh, right, forgot you were a day kill.  That said, did they know you were a host N2? i.e. they could've targeted a human.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 01:39:31 pm »
I also don't think I would use it on a host given the info we have already... that is to say there probably isn't any more coming out. IDK about that. I value a flip a lot here, but also I assume we are down to the wire (ish) in terms of being able to achieve win con. or not. I don't know. This game is weird.

Does anyone else want to weigh in on the vig shot?

So far I am underwhelmed with the suggestions given.

We have no idea if we're down to the wire. We have one dead townie (for sure) and two hosts who could be town or scum, one of which we could revive if we wanted to.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« on: August 04, 2020, 01:36:32 pm »
We had what is increasingly looking like a trio of town wagons on D1 that just never went away, with an impressive seven seconds until deadline exiling joth.

Then our groot died overnight but I think that was just scum shooting an engaged player not an intentional shot at the tree (who I think was the doc?). Either way it's not great.


Now we're on D2 and most folks agree we need to review new players but there seems to be a low motivation to move forward.

I think we need to XAL, personally. If I were scum and play were this slow I'd be happy to just minimally post and not push the game very hard.

XAL? (I get that XAL may be be replacing LAL, but I wouldn't know what that meant anyway)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:42:16 pm »
Faust, eh? This will be interesting.

Does no one think Isis is scum other than me?

She's on my list, but I prefer Robz or chairs.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:36:34 pm »
That doesn't make a lot of sense: although it's very much possible they can't kill humans (goes perfectly with my dayvig), why wouldn't they kill a host last night?

Unless...they went for a human and then scola/me? Why risk it?

Did mail-mi claim human?

Well, what known host could they go for? Only joth, no?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:35:41 pm »
That said, and I'm now possibly contradicting myself -

I had early posited a hypothesis that all scum are hosts. Let's look at that again.

In the show, hosts can't hurt humans. So what if? They are all hosts, can only NK other hosts, and have to use other special ways of killing (or exile) to get rid of humans.

that could explain the no NKs, i.e. at the time of night there were no town hosts alive. (Didds may be a town host, but she was dead); Joth could be a scum host.

Something like that at least.

That I was already dead explains N3. 

N2 is not as clear... unless they tried to shoot a host but it wasn't a host and it failed?

You were dead both N2 and N3, right? You died D2, D3 requested maintenance, and were rezzed for D4.

I really do think joth is likely scum. I think it'd be a clever tactic on N1 (given D1 we exiled town) to NK one of their own. (also guarantees a successful NK if there's any truth to the above ^^^)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:03:10 pm »
That said, and I'm now possibly contradicting myself -

I had early posited a hypothesis that all scum are hosts. Let's look at that again.

In the show, hosts can't hurt humans. So what if? They are all hosts, can only NK other hosts, and have to use other special ways of killing (or exile) to get rid of humans.

that could explain the no NKs, i.e. at the time of night there were no town hosts alive. (Didds may be a town host, but she was dead); Joth could be a scum host.

Something like that at least.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:00:06 pm »
The fact that we don't learn anything about hosts is very challenging. I'm surprised there's not a cop that sees alignment but just of hosts (or something like that).

I do think joth could be scum. I'm wary of faust, swowl, and mail-mi.

Would prefer to vote a human, I think, lean towards easier swowl or mail-mi.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D2)
« on: August 03, 2020, 10:42:05 pm »
FWIW I have only phone web for the appreciable future. I can reply but don't expect me to be able to do ISO reads etc., mostly just gut feel.

That said I think scum is real happy with the focus being on me and mix, or chat would move on. This suggests to me that mix is also town, so I think we need to vote: Robz

I think I actually agree. My main MiX argument was the unwillingness to hammer. My gut said it was un-MiX like, but the more I think about it, I don't actually recall him wanting to hammer. (one of my early games was MiX vs Ash accusing each other of being the last scum; ash is someone who loved to hammer and I may have mixed them up).

I'm not a big fan if exiling lurkers, as I am sometimes that, as well.  Though I would like to hear from them.

I think I'll join the

vote: Robz

crowd as the anti lurker who does seem to be trying to control the narrative.


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 03, 2020, 01:27:50 pm »
@Scola- I think that LL "visited" them on N2 last night...I think the "visit" is more like visiting a memory or whatever.  I don't thinlk is saying that he did this on N2. 

LL, is that right?

Ah, that makes sense.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 03, 2020, 01:13:04 pm »
Well.

I targeted MiX tonight and blocked him from {faust, LaLight, scolapasta, mail-mi, Awaclus}. I also activated my special power and learned that MiX did not attempt to target someone from that group.

I was targeted for maintenance by Didds and ADK. I attempted to revive ADK, which apparently failed. ADK told me that they asked the question mail-mi supposedly asked about them and got a different answer.

How could Didds have been revived then? (or are you saying you also revived her)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 03, 2020, 01:06:23 pm »
I visited faust and Awaclus on Night 2 after a long way trying to figure out if deflecting would work retroactively and being told it wouldn't.

Here I should say again that I misunderstood my ability again and I get to see if people I visit are targeted by a person who has the ability I am looking for, not the ability itself. So I got a Yes on faust and No on Awaclus and the info that I targeted the bearer of ability 2 times.

This Day I guessed Awaclus and got to know that his passive ability is the one he was talking about. He is seen a human instead of Host. If some condition he doesn't know anything about is met, the ability will be switched off. and also while this ability is active, he can't be the last remaining town host.

Does visiting count as targetting? Shouldn't I have seen you, then?

I saw 4 people, we were assuming it was me, faust, Didds, and Swowl. (with the assumption Didds redirected from faust to Awaclus). But if you're one of the 4, then one of the other 3 can't be; and if it's not Didds, then it wouldn't be faust either, since he cliams to have targeted Awaclus)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 4)
« on: August 03, 2020, 12:56:39 pm »
Busy days, will need to get caught up.

But I can at least claim my actions:
Watched Lalight, only 1 person targeted, i.e. me.

Also, @Didds, "reveries"?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M130: Star Trek: Voyager mafia
« on: August 03, 2020, 12:11:49 pm »
F/ine.

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Puzzles and Challenges / Re: Easy Puzzles
« on: August 02, 2020, 07:21:04 pm »
MORE ENGLISH-LANGUAGE CARD* NAME TRIVIA:

The chemical element whose name appears in the names of the most Dominion cards has a symbol on the periodic table that appears in the name of only one Dominion card.

From memory, (no looking it up on the periodic table or Dominion card lists) name that card.

*Or card-shaped things, as always.

Festival?

Assuming you're thinking Iron (Fe), there's also Ferry.

What about Marauder?/spoiler]

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