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How is not voting best for town? e would've shot ashersky, and endgamed DD if asher was town and e scum. Both were scum they could possibly shoot each other and give the win to town. Given ashers claim, he couldn't shoot, though and that would basically be the same outcome as the first alternative. If asher was scum and e town, not killing asher would just swap the stuff around.

No one knew I couldn't shoot at the time.

Not lynching forces me and 2.7 to play chicken.  Who shoots who?  Do we shoot each other?

That was town's best chance.

Wait yeah it was after you claimed to lose the shot. A no lynch would've been the right play

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How is not voting best for town? e would've shot ashersky, and endgamed DD if asher was town and e scum. Both were scum they could possibly shoot each other and give the win to town. Given ashers claim, he couldn't shoot, though and that would basically be the same outcome as the first alternative. If asher was scum and e town, not killing asher would just swap the stuff around.

No, you're right.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 03:39:39 pm »
Ah, I was thinking they would get the chance to kill if they had it.

No, that's why I voted against him. I knew he was lying, so I voted for the chance that he was scum and e was town. I should've just not voted.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 03:35:12 pm »
Were I town, I'd have voted for e.  Ash as a survivor looked plausible to me.
he couldn't have been a survivor or we would've shot e. I believe that was DD's reason for voting him

This. If he was survivor, shooting e and arch win him the game. It's irrelevant if I'm town or scum because hockey has my win con. Survivor wouldn't have done that. Which means he was lying, this the vote for ash

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 03:02:42 pm »
Based on this setup, though, I wouldn't be surprised if some weird time mechanic still fucks with things after the last lunch.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 03:00:12 pm »
In retrospect, just writing "I'm SK, 2.7 is mafia.  Choose a winner." probably got me the win.

But like I said, that felt cheap.

It may have been cheap but I would've definitely voted for you. I was looking for the only out I had. That would've closed my out and definitely made me award the win for great play.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:56:30 pm »
For the record, I was NOT an SK until today, when Hydrad died again.

I won with town if Hydrad lived.  I won with 2.7 if EgorK lived.  When they both died, I became an SK.

I can see your point, DD.  If you thought there was even a sliver of a chance 2.7 was town...

But I had just daykilled 2 players, admitted to trying to kill 2 more at night.  How could I have been part of a scum team.

Maybe I should have killed you instead of hockey.  I thought you were the better analyst, though.  Analysis would have always ended in my favor.

You could have accused me, etc. without voting me.  That quick hammer is what doesn't sit well with me.

You shouldn't have lied. There was a sliver chance e was scum. You could've just had crazy powers as scum. This is role madness, no one knows.  My analysis wasn't wrong. In my role, you lied which means either just you or both of you are scum. That means the only chance of a win is voting against you.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:47:17 pm »
The truth of the matter is you couldn't stand to be wrong, so you would rather lose to 2.7 than to me.

Guess what? You still lost.

I knew you were lying so I didn't believe you. To me that means you were either both scum or you were scum and he was town. My best chance was to vote against you. You did this to yourself. Had you said there is no way for me to win, I would use voted for you because I would've had no chance to win, I would've voted for you instead of looking for my best interest.  You played wrong. Accept it. Live on.
Tell me how town can win with scum?

If you can explain that to me, I'll gladly let this go.

I didn't know who was scum. You tried to convince me he was scum... But you lied in trying to convince me... So I thought you were lying about him being scum...

Like anyone would've done this in my place.

You should have told me there was no way to win because then I would've stopped trying to find scum and I honestly would've picked you to win for better play.

You are right that I should have just told you the situation.  But like I said, that felt cheap.  I wanted to "win" by playing, not just having you choose.

That you would in any world think I would make all that up as scum was unthinkable.  What's the scum narrative for that?

The quick hammer was scummy and ridiculous.

None of it makes sense from a town perspective.  That's why I think you hammered me out of spite.

Had I voted for e and had he flipped town then you could've killed me at night if you were scum. So the best for me given what I knew at the time was lynch you.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:40:57 pm »
The truth of the matter is you couldn't stand to be wrong, so you would rather lose to 2.7 than to me.

Guess what? You still lost.

Are you just a troll?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:40:23 pm »
Tell me how town can win with scum?

If you can explain that to me, I'll gladly let this go.

I didn't know who was scum. You tried to convince me he was scum... But you lied in trying to convince me... So I thought you were lying about him being scum...

Like anyone would've done this in my place.

You should have told me there was no way to win because then I would've stopped trying to find scum and I honestly would've picked you to win for better play.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:36:21 pm »
Vote: Ashersky

I have no clue how we ended up winning this game

Good game, man! That was a crazy complicated one. Three third parties is crazy.

Vote: Ashersky

I have no clue how we ended up winning this game

You won through DD's spite.

Buddy, you lied and I caught it. I had a chance to win the other way because I knew you were lying. That's not spite. That's how you play the game. You need to lose your piss poor attitude.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:27:42 pm »
THE GAME IS OVER.

I'm not lying anymore.  Yes, I lied about some stuff.  That's part of the game.

You decided to hammer me and give the win to another scum team because I lied, and that's ridiculous to me.

From a spectator/academic perspective, even, the king maker ought to give the win to the best played side.

Lol moral arguments.

I thought you were lying so I voted against you. You're being pretty pathetic. It's a game.


You have been so convinced of your own superior reads that you let it cloud your judgement.

You continue to think I'm scum even after the game is over.  Why?  That makes no sense.

I AM NOT SCUM.  Get over it.

Buddy, I'm not the one who cares. It's you. You need to get over it and yourself. You lied and messed up, I caught your lie and didn't believe you. You did this to yourself.

What the fuck, man.  I'm lynched.  You hammered me.

Why would I continue to lie?

2.7 is the other scum, not me.

Well is your own fault. When combing someone you're telling the truth you shouldn't lie.

Lying was my best course of action to try to win.  I figured it was better than just saying "dude, you can't win, just pick a winner."

Maybe I should have done that.  Seemed cheap to me, so I thought I'd try to win by "playing the game" instead.

Probably should've done this. I thought you were lying because... You lied!!! Ding ding ding. There was a 100% chance you were lying. My best course of action was vote against you.

Get off your high horse.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:23:25 pm »
What the fuck, man.  I'm lynched.  You hammered me.

Why would I continue to lie?

2.7 is the other scum, not me.

Well is your own fault. When combing someone you're telling the truth you shouldn't lie.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:20:48 pm »
You had no reason to lie about your win con, and you must have because you wouldn't have killed those two people since you could've just won the game right out.

Your attempts to make me switch after I caught you in a lie are somewhat disrespectful. Please stop. It is a game, get over it.

Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.

Not spite, I just caught you in a lie.

You were actually convincing me too, I was even watching e to try to see what he did today.

Then I realized you had to be lying.

Why is me lying so bad that you'd prefer 2.7's scum team to win over 3rd party me?

Like, you got to choose who won, given you were going to lose anyway.  You made a conscious decision to let a scum team that just didn't play that well or hard (I guess 2.7 survived all this time, and that's good, and he clearly made some good night action choices) win over me.

Maybe I'm just self-centered, but it took a lot of effort to stay alive all this time.  And you were like "welp, fuck that, have a win, scum team #2."

Why is lying so bad?! Probably because the only way this narrative works is if you are right and telling the truth. But by your confirmation, you're lying. So I don't believe you, so I think you're egor's partner and e is town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:14:57 pm »
Whatever.  It's my own fault for leaving you alive after you showed how you felt about me earlier in the game.

I was NOT scum, for fuck's sake.  If faust is still alive, he'll confirm it for you when he writes the flip and awards the win to 2.7/EgorK, who had to do literally NOTHING to win the game but let you lynch me.

Faust, great game.  Sorry I'm so bitter, it isn't at you.

Did you read what I wrote?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:12:46 pm »
Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.

Not spite, I just caught you in a lie.

You were actually convincing me too, I was even watching e to try to see what he did today.

Then I realized you had to be lying.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:11:00 pm »
Had that actually been your win con you would've killed e and 2.7 because hockey and I would be alive. Had we been scum, we both win. Since we're town, you still win,

You're lying.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:09:41 pm »
Oh no you still lose, but that's not your win con anyway.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:09:05 pm »
You wouldn't have done that if that was really your win con.

Also, you know I can invite so you're trying to convince me too.

You can't lose if that's your win con too. Gg

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:06:34 pm »
You're either scum, and I was right, or a SK, in which e is scum and I kingmake him.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:04:59 pm »
Wait no you're lying.

There were 5 people left. You, the masons, arch, and e.

You win, apparently, when another team wins. You only had to shoot arch and e and you would've won no matter what my alignment was.

The thing is, that's not your win con. Had you done that, you would've been lynched because hockey and I both know we're town.

Good game, man.

Vote: Ash

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 01:58:45 pm »
My problem is why did you shoot hockey? He couldn't have been scum because that would have made me scum and made it either another 2 person team, or a three person team, a two person team and three solo teams. I don't see the reasoning behind shooting him?

Also you said you knew that e was scum... Is this because you shot him or something else? If you knew he was scum, why did you shoot hockey and arch and not the confirmed scum in your eyes?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 01:47:43 pm »
Also how do you have a killing power?!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 01:47:16 pm »
I'm leaning your way; I want to hear from e, because he'll either confirm he's scum to make you the kingmaker (probably not because you said you're leaning town) or he'll try to convince me he's town.

As of right now I am leaning towards ash. I want the day action window to end to confirm something though, but that's where I stand. Ash's story makes sense.

Ash what's your wincon?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (D6)
« on: July 24, 2015, 01:38:29 pm »
Let's win together.

2.7 could try to convince me to switch sides by voting for you, I guess.  I'd rather win with you.  We've had quite the epic battle this game.

I mean I'm leaning your way right now, but I just want to confirm something before I vote.

Did you tree stump hockey? Also why did you kill hockey?

How did hydrad die if you doctored him?

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