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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part IV
« on: October 19, 2018, 01:07:24 pm »
Can I join? I once dreamt of a prismata card. I don't remember the specifics, but one effect was to give you a copy of all units you lost at the previous turn. Which is interesting because it's a not-at-first-glance-bad idea that has never occurred to my waking state. I think it was green.

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Forum Games / Re: Awaclus and the Finnish Championship
« on: October 18, 2018, 05:36:09 pm »
I think Awaclus should ponder himself how his play style and attitude was received.

I agree about his playstyle (as everyone here knows). And I'm sympathetic to your position. I'd say, don't invite him anymore. (Also maybe don't select based on rolling a die nationality? :P) But I don't think anything he's done, according to the stuff in this thread, warrants any sort of official punishment from theory or mafia admins. If you wanted to make us aware of the impression he left, duly noted.

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Forum Games / Re: Awaclus and the Finnish Championship
« on: October 18, 2018, 04:35:40 pm »
If using /out strategically is not specifically prohibited by the rules, and if Awaclus discussed it before doing it... well, then I think it's up to the admins to prevent that kind of behavior if they don't like it. Maybe read the mafia daychat or add it to the ruleset. I also don't see how our rules are relevant here.

Generally, it's not the job of players to figure out which ways of playing are in good sport. The job of the players is to win. The job of the game designers (in this case the mod) is to design the game such that everyone trying to win results in a fun experience for everyone. Not that I wouldn't make exceptions to this rule in extreme cases, though. But in this case, if he saw a way to advance his wincon that was skirting the rules, well, then change the rules.

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So I forgot to breadcrumb day 1 and tried to correct that day 2 with the thing space correctly noticed. It seemed very blatant to me.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part IV
« on: October 17, 2018, 07:18:36 am »
Something different I encountered today: check out this sentence. It has both correct grammar and sensible meaning

The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families

this was incredibly confusing to me, I'm not sure if others have an easier time with it. Resolution: [The complex] houses [married and single soldiers and their families]

Somewhat less confusing: The horse raced past the barn fell. Resolution: [the horse (that) raced past the barn] fell. Apperently they're called garden path sentences.

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Damn I was hoping EFHW would not be scum. That's some towny scum play there.

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General Discussion / Re: Maths thread.
« on: October 15, 2018, 06:06:34 pm »
Here's something I've been thinking about again recently

So, a while ago I tried to prove that the derivative of sin is cos using the limit calculation, that's lim h->0 [sin(x + h) - sin(x)] / h. After finishing it, I realized that I used the rule of L'hopital, so I used the fact that sin' = cos in order to prove that sin' = cos. And ofc logically speaking, sin' = cos => sin' = cos is a tautology, so it doesn't prove anything. But then I realized that it's actually still pretty strong evidence certainly it would be strong rational evidence if you didn't know what the derivative of sin was because if you postulate an incorrect derivative, the same calculation will most likely get you a contradiction. For example, if you postulate that sin(x)' cos(x)' = x, then what you prove is that sin'(x) = cos'(x) = x => sin(x) = 0, which is a contradiction, so it does give you a valid proof that sin(x)' or cos(x)' does not equal x.

This made me think that perhaps the correct result is the only result that would not yield a contradiction in this way. If that were true and you could somehow prove it to be true, then the tautological proof of sin' = cos would actually become a legit proof. It turns out that's not true, though, because I found two counterexamples: sin' = cos' = 0 and sin' = sin, cos' = cos both return tautologies rather than contradictions. this keeps being true if you also plug them into the limit calculation for cos(x). But I still suspect that the class of contradictions is quite small. maybe that's wrong.

It also made me think about whether this is a formally stateable question. You may not be able to ask "is there another function f such that if sin(x)' = f(x), you get a stable result doing the limit calculation with l'hopital", because if sin(x)' = f(x) for f(x) ≠ cos(x), you would have a contradiction and then everything follows, so it probably would be possible to do the calculation and conclude that sin(x)' = x => sin(x)' = x. This is the general problem of reasoning about logical uncertainty. But at the same time, it is a question that's pretty easy to understand informally. Maybe you could formulate it if you restricted the operations that are allowed, but that sounds weird.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part IV
« on: October 14, 2018, 12:55:54 pm »
This is one of my favorite "are you kidding me the pattern breaks down" examples. I've never looked into why exactly it breaks down, but basically it happens because 1 + 1/3 + 1/5 + ... + 1/13 < 2 and 1+ 1/3 + 1/5 + ... + 1/15 > 2.

That was the only thing I took away from the longer explanation I skimmed. But I wouldn't use the term 'because' here. The fact that the integral isn't off in the other direction for sums < 2, but is exactly pi/2 for sums < 2 and off for sums > 2 feels only slightly less insane than the original result, at least for me.

(At one point there was some talk in this thread about patterns that break down late, but those didn't seem as counter-intuitive as this one.)

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part IV
« on: October 13, 2018, 07:51:26 am »
There's an explanation here but it's not easy to understand

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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff Part IV
« on: October 12, 2018, 06:53:10 pm »
This is one of the least plausible apparently true things I've ever seen


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General Discussion / Re: TV shows
« on: October 10, 2018, 02:32:56 pm »
Yeah, and                            Moat                  is an even bigger spoiler, I think.

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and here I thought it was all done on the fly

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Forum Games / Re: M119: Towny Mafia
« on: October 08, 2018, 02:23:38 pm »
/out

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Forum Games / Re: M119: Towny Mafia
« on: October 03, 2018, 05:09:12 am »
/in

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: f.ds Mafia Hub
« on: October 02, 2018, 02:59:20 pm »
you still have half of the last 6 games

... but if you want to mod another, don't let me stop you. I'll sign up :-) and I don't particularly want to mod something right now.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: f.ds Mafia Hub
« on: October 02, 2018, 01:58:32 pm »
Didn't you mod like the last 5 games? Someone else should step up.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 27, 2018, 04:14:19 am »
I just hope hydrad isn't hammered, which unfortunately is possible.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 27, 2018, 04:02:00 am »
One more should vote just to guard against vote shenanigans (someone not counting for some reason)

Fine
vote: WCD

well you missed your time to visit us, the deadline was a minute ago

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 27, 2018, 03:59:14 am »
datswan you should vote wcd

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 27, 2018, 03:54:06 am »
vote: WCD

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 27, 2018, 03:53:08 am »
and deadline is in 7 minutes?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 27, 2018, 03:50:48 am »
am here.

hydrad claimed mason?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 26, 2018, 06:51:42 pm »
unvote

I'll wake up 2h before the deadline, which will be enough to make an informed decision.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 26, 2018, 04:05:46 pm »
I have to say their posts really do sound like they're hinting at a result.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM50: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (D2)
« on: September 26, 2018, 04:00:46 pm »
So yeah @Morgrim just clarify that you don't have a guilty result, and this apparent misunderstanding is solved.

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