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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 04:29:51 pm »
We can waste time exiling me, or we can narrow down PoE to 3 players and kill them all.
We're doing that. You're one of them.

The fact that there was a framer has no bearing if you are scum, so unless you can give a positive reason why you are not, this seems like a completely fine exile. You are of course free to offer up your opinions on who the scum is, and we will take them into consideration should you flip town.

Who's the other 2?
Galzria and EFHW, probably.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 04:27:09 pm »
Everyone seems to be ignoring that we have a guilty result on MiX. Why is that?

where is this result?

Isis opens on Space, then moves to Galz, then finally at VC 2.3 ends up on MiX.

If Isis was trying to crumb MiX, wouldn't they just open on MiX and sit there to make it super obvious in case of a flip?
Isis has a couple of posts talking about crumbing and how it's easy to do without scum noticing. What you describe would be extremely noticable.

I'll pull some quotes when I have the time.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 03:34:32 pm »
We can waste time exiling me, or we can narrow down PoE to 3 players and kill them all.
We're doing that. You're one of them.

The fact that there was a framer has no bearing if you are scum, so unless you can give a positive reason why you are not, this seems like a completely fine exile. You are of course free to offer up your opinions on who the scum is, and we will take them into consideration should you flip town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 02:51:27 pm »
Everyone seems to be ignoring that we have a guilty result on MiX. Why is that?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 01:04:31 pm »
I can see the reasoning behind:

Vote; EFHW
I can't, can you enlighten me?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 12:43:42 pm »
Because scum know what PRís are in the game.

Scum knew Chairs was telling the truth, and had Grootís flip. Iím inclined to agree with MiX that they probably Role Copped Isis N1 and planned to kill her last night. That meant Robz could only claim a 1 Point PR. Seems more likely to try and draw out a CC than not - although I guess at this point it wouldíve been obvious to Ant that Robz was lying. Still, I donít know - just feels like itís more likely for Robz to pick the PR that exists than the one that doesnít.

Either way, I donít think the remaining PR should claim, so itís moot.
Not sure what you are saying, why would there be a counterclaim with Scarlet Witch but not with Antman? There can be multiples of the same role...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 10, 2020, 12:40:11 pm »
Joth, please explain yourself??
He's scum is why.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 10, 2020, 12:09:26 pm »
Well, this does feel an awful lot like the last Day. That's a bit worrisome.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 11:24:49 am »
There's also a bit where Space posts intent to hammer on MiX and MiX claim VT and then Space doesn't follow through, which quite looks like something that could have been engineered with daychat.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 11:20:04 am »
I just reread bits of D2 and like... Isis had a scum result on MiX.

Vote: MiX

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M129: Marvel Mafia 2 (D3)
« on: August 10, 2020, 11:07:17 am »
This makes me happy. Now I'll be off to go look for the final scum.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 10, 2020, 08:34:02 am »
Sanity check for the case where there's 3 living scum and everyone currently dead is town.

As per the additional info LaLight revealed about mail-mi's role, we would know that there is at least one mafia host. Of course it would be possible that mail-mi/LaLight are both scum and pointlessly making something up. But that doesn't seem very likely.

In this scenario, mail-mi would be scum by ADK's accusation. Which means that joth would likely be town. So the only candidate for a mafia Host would be Didds. Thus we'd have like mail-mi/Didds plus either LaLight or scola.

Voting patterns today make it quite unlikely that it would be LaLight/mail-mi, so that leaves it at mail-mi, Didds, scola.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 10, 2020, 08:16:32 am »
Plus if mail-mi was a Traitor, I strongly doubt he'd just willy-nilly remove someone form the game who might very well be his partner.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 10, 2020, 08:12:43 am »
Why would scum!ADK try to smear scum!mail-mi by suggesting they got a different answer to the question to the question mail-mi asked?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 10, 2020, 05:18:31 am »
Given the apparent limitations on the scum kill, we should assume that there are 3 scum. The game is still going, so it seems likely that one of those scum is dead. (Though the game could be going for other reasons, i.e. maintenance plus abilities that block/redirect kills.)

The dead hosts are ADK, Awaclus, MiX.

It seems unlikely that scum would kill scum!MiX if they otherwise they would have a blocking majority for the exile. So if MiX was scum (and thus this kill a ploy for us the resurrect and townread MiX) then I think that means that another scum is already dead.

Which leaves ADK and Awaclus. But Awaclus had, by LaLight's admission, an ability that directly ties into the town wincon (i.e. he would not count as a host towards the town wincon) - which doesn't make a ton of sense if he's scum. The conclusion would be that either Awaclus and LaLight are both scum and LaLight is covering for Awaclus (but that seems a bit strange given that Awaclus seemingly cannot be resurrected), or - most likely - Awaclus is town.

Which in turn leads me to conclude that ADK is scum. And ADK being scum strongly implies that mail-mi is town, since he shut them down for good (as confirmed). And if we work under the assumption that mail-mi is town, then we should also trust his result on joth. Which, in turn, makes joth scum as well.

This all means that scum shot scum N1. Which, considering that there are 2 scum hosts, seems like a decent play for towncred. It also makes Didds look towny, since if scum already planned to shoot their own it doesn't make much sense to also have redirection going on.

Do you see flaws in this logic?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 12:31:05 pm »
Vote: LaLight

Yes, I have this ability. Yes, I did not claim it because in what world is that a good idea to claim? And why does lalight want to kill me? In the world where I'm scum, you would want to kill all the other scum first. So lalight wants to kill me because he is scum.
If LaLight wanted to exile you so badly he could have made up an ability that's far more incriminating.
*they, sorry.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 12:30:51 pm »
Vote: LaLight

Yes, I have this ability. Yes, I did not claim it because in what world is that a good idea to claim? And why does lalight want to kill me? In the world where I'm scum, you would want to kill all the other scum first. So lalight wants to kill me because he is scum.
If LaLight wanted to exile you so badly he could have made up an ability that's far more incriminating.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 12:29:47 pm »
joth you still haven't answered my question. Who do you townread?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 12:25:20 pm »
faust, remind me your flavor namre?
Theresea Cullen

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 09:03:25 am »
BUt even if you think mail-mi is scum, it wouldn't be smart to exile him, right? That would only enable human kills.

How do you know he's not the last scum?
I mean, assuming there's 3 scum total, it's unclear to me who the others would be. ADK explicitly tried to sabotage mail-mi from the grave, and I guess it could be Awaclus, but that would also be weird as his special ting is probably also triggered by mail-mi's death.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 08:20:34 am »
BUt even if you think mail-mi is scum, it wouldn't be smart to exile him, right? That would only enable human kills.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 08:15:15 am »
also also if we lynch mail-mi, he won't be able to shut down hosts for good. So we resurrect MiX and probably Awaclus, where did he go
I don't think we can resurrect Awaclus. We should revive MiX, that much is true.

I didn't think that mail-mi can shut down another host. He could be lying about it, but that would be fairly easy to catch.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 08:13:58 am »
fwiw, I think you're the other scum, faust
You think wrong.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 08:13:43 am »
Is that a reason to vote for him?

I'm sorry? He didn't claim anything of sorts and this is obviously a scum ability
I obviously can't speak for mail-mi but it seems wise to keep this hidden as otherwise scum would know who to kill. On the other hand of course... if scum could already kill him, then they already can kill human, I suppose? It's weird.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 09, 2020, 07:50:10 am »
Is that a reason to vote for him?

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