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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 22, 2013, 04:04:55 pm »
Who needs healing most?

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 19, 2013, 11:29:53 am »
Yes. I'm here. Waiting for the creatures...

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 08, 2013, 01:57:26 pm »
[OOC]Yes,allu can roll Knowledge: Occult once per encounter without needing an action or anything.  You already rolled it here though.[/OOC]

This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Fighting vs. Grant 1d10 : 9, total 9

((My appoligies, I don't recall having ever rolled occult knowledge (in the game at all).  Could you point me to it? Thanks))

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 05, 2013, 02:03:21 pm »
[OOC]I read that, and said "oh right, knowledge roll I forgot", and then I promptly forgot again.
These creatures are not from the Hunting Grounds.[/OOC]
Whst about occult? Can I roll occcult knowledge at any point?

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 03, 2013, 09:11:57 pm »
I suspect the Danonites has fouled my dice...

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 03, 2013, 09:09:49 pm »
((We can roll knowledge at any time? (Outside of turn?) If so, Is like to try a knowledge roll for occult, if not please ignore this roll))
Rolled 1d6 : 1, total 1

Wild
Rolled 1d6 : 3, total 3

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Forum Games / why I had to leave
« on: July 02, 2013, 07:03:24 pm »
 :'(
This will be my one and only post addressing this issue have no intention of coming back here for any games and intend on leaving entirely once the last game I'm playing is over. 
I have to get this off my chest because I don't think how I was by treated by Robz and Galz was either fair or appropriate. It sets a bad precident that people here will never know about because they hide it behind a wall of secrecy.   I will not debate robz or galz or respond to any more negativity

Let me make this entirely clear:  I have appologized for and am in no way making any excused for whst happened in innovation. I lost my cool (I wasn't the only one!) And I immediately offered up myself for modkill.  This has NOTHING to do with the Innovatiom game. I appologize again now

The admins for this board, robz and galz have claimed that multiple complaints were lodged against me and my "meta" PRIOR to the incident in innovation.  They claim MULTIPLE people complaining from MULTIPLE games (prior to innovation) didn't want me to join their games, or didn't want to play if I was in. I have no way of knowing if any if this is true, because they refuse to present any evidence against me...in other words: if you don't like a certain person on this board or their style of play, you can get them booted (or get then to change their style if of okay through threats)through a completely anonymous and uncontestable complaint process. So Ash, Yuma, andothers here tthat are fairly aggressive beware. 
But not really, right? Because a different set of rules seems tiapplies to people who heve been here longer than me. Take Robz.  When I asked that he not be a part of the decision making for a game he was involved in---[hint robz: recusal is not a knock on you, it's a matter of basic fairness and when you refuse to recuse yourself, you make it clear that fairness or even the appearance of fairness is not a concern

No. Basic fairness and civility dictate that if you are going to accuse someone, you at the very least present them with exactlynwhst they were doing wrong (i have a problem with the anonymous complainants too---if you have something to say about someone say it to them directly.

In the end I told robz and galz I was willing to be called on the carpet for my behaviour in innovation...but not for back to basics or any other previous game (not counting the game that shall not be named which we all agreed to move on from)... i do not believe the nameless accusations.

I get that robz and galz want to have a happy cheerful community. I understand that I'm different and don't always fit in so great. My play style is different. As Yuma puts it:I can be stubborn.  But making players that don't fit your mold feel unwelcome...and worse accusing them of basically wrexking the community.  If aggressive play is outlawed then say goodbye to s lot of other folks here too...

But I don't believe that's the case...no, I was singled out (not without reason)...but I deserve to have those reasons presented to me. Galz and robz refused that request and made it clear I'm not welcome here anymore.

To those of you who showed me kindness, even when I didn't deserve it thank you.  It broke my heart to be forced out of this community.  I only hope the next player that comes along and doesn't fit the mold is treated s little different.
Goodbye

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 02, 2013, 04:59:26 pm »
Oh...that was just awful.
Spending a white fate chip to recover

Bob takes aim at the creature's wing. (Bow):
Rolled 1d6 : 3, total 3


Wild
Rolled 1d6 : 4, total 4


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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 02, 2013, 04:51:50 pm »
Ok Spirit Roll
Rolled 1d10 : 1, total 1


Wild
Rolled 1d6 : 1, total 1

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 02, 2013, 12:15:16 pm »
(Let me get this straight--please correct me if I'm misunderstanding--so, since I'm shaken, I can't attack, but I could use a white chip and recover from shaken, and fire a shot this turn? If so, that's what I will do, and aim for the thing 2's wing (closest to me)...will wait till it's my turn to roll))

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: [DLR] Chapter 1: The White Calf
« on: July 02, 2013, 12:44:59 am »
Genji crouched down at the sound of flapping wings and whooshing air.  He reached for Ken instinctively; the coyote growled loudly and crouched, now ready to spring at any approaching creatures.  Genji gripped his staff tightly, waiting for a signal of attack from his companion.

He smelled blood.  "Bob, how badly are you hurt?  Can you tell me what's happened?"

That thing got me pretty good. But I think I'm ok for now...
But the rest or our freids have been grabbed by those things and are about to be carried away it looks like. I'd like to take a shot at one. But I'm worried about hitting our friends or them getting dropped from too high. ((I guess I could use a fate chip--can you remind me whst the colors denote Theo?))
And, we still have the two that went after us to worry about as well!
I'm open to any quick ideas you might have about these things....I don't think I've ever see em before...

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Forum Games / Re: RMM9: Monster Madness Mafia (signups open)
« on: July 01, 2013, 02:18:51 pm »
/out my appologies

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Sorry mai. I really wanted to play this one
/out

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: CLUE Mafia (SIGN-UPS OPEN NOW)
« on: July 01, 2013, 02:17:12 pm »
/out. Sorry Yuma. Looked fun

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 02:15:54 pm »
I should have just left earlier. But evidently I have ruined not only this game but every other game I'm in. 
I'm sorry about that.
But feel free to make me the lynch of today.
I really liked this game dispite the tunneling. I eas excited to see whst I could do with my lens
I was a town watcher and I shared my lens with Theo (sorry I hope that doesn't mess it up for you) I also got s nice phonograph from someone....thank you for your kind gift even though I coukdnt use it with my lens
Night 1 I watched Raerae and she did nothing.  It could be because she's town or becise scum woukdnt be smart to delay action till night two...I read her as town
I still think efhw is town and Theo and eevee and I still think Ta is scum.  Nk is just confused I think. Ash is misleading everyone.
Goodbye. Thanks for those of you who were kind to me when I didnt deserve it.
/out

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXVI: Back to Basics (Day 1 start)
« on: July 01, 2013, 02:06:01 pm »
I'm going to walk away from here...my appoligies to Shraeye. Your game was fun and I enjoyed it. But apparently I have made this game unfun for many of you here.  I'm sorry

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:57:36 pm »

I did answer these questions (except the last one) I don't have to repeat myself for your satisfaction. That you keep claiming I didn't is a flat out lie...and remains my number one reason for you being scum
As for question 3, I am not in favor of lynching either. As both are not hiding in the background. I did have a scum read on shrae earlier (you would know this if you wetent tunneling a bad case)...but I'm null-town now. Efhw is town. I don't think ash is right about any "scumslip" when have we ever been right about scumslip?!?! Except when robz made a horrible mistake.  It just doesn't happen often and more often it's town we jump on for the supposed slip.
So go ahead tunnel away
I will continue to call out your aggressive when you push lies and call them a case

No, everytime I've asked these questions, you have said "I don't need to answer them, your case is so obviously ridiculously and wrong!!"

If you HAVE answered them, please quote the answers. It's a long thread, and I looked and didn't find them. Regardless, why is answering them again if you're town such a bad thing. Shouldn't you WANT to prove to me you're town.

Just because a person makes a case on you, even if you're town, DOES NOT MAKE THAT PERSON SCUM. You have a scum read on me based simply on the fact that I made a case on you. THAT'S tunneling, not my case. I looked at everything in the thread, noticed what you were saying was scummy, and brought it to everyone's attention, cause I think you're more than likely scum. But I've still been looking at other people. Just because I make a case and push it does not mean I'm tunneling, and it does not mean I'm scum. It's part of the game, dude.
It's not a case when it's composed entirely of lies.  And you sir are the definition of tunneling. How many posts now have you complained "can't we just lynch sb".

I don't know they're not composed of lies, though! It's reads. This is mafia. We read people. We make cases. We accuse people. Just because the cases are potentially wrong doesn't mean that they are lies. If you think they are lies, keep in mind, you are the only one who knows that, and no one else knows that. You have to CONVINCE us they are lies.

How many posts have I complained "can't we just lynch sb"? Certainly a decent amount. How many posts HAVEN'T I said that? A LOT.
That is just a terrible lie. You know for certain that you are pushing lies about me, because they aren't based on speculation, they are based on your twisting the facts.  The facts are that I have said why I believed efhw (ahop even quoted it). The rest of your so-called case is that town can't possibly believe efhw or side with her in the shrae disagreement.  That has already been completely discredited. 
So tunnel away. But don't think for one second I'm going to let you push your lies without standing up for myself
Eevee. This and the fact that his ash objection has been completely discredited as well answer his cske-case entirely...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:31:15 pm »
Im not answering with émotion. I answered your "case" straight up....but just like all game ling you ignored it

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:20:24 pm »
And just to out the nail in it....your ash point was completely discredited as well...don't know why you are still pushing that line

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:19:12 pm »
Dude, have you like played a mafia game before?

This is beyond frustrating. I made a case like 20 pages ago, the player in question has refused to answer the questions I brought up, and we're not considering lynching that player? Seriously?

Here's the case, in a nutshell. Infact, Ahoppy summarized it better than I have, so I'll quote him:

"Twistedarcher's case is that he finds it odd that SB votes shraeye with very little evidence and believes EFHW.  Also, spiritbears keeps his vote on ash even after ash has said his raerae vote was for reactions.  SB even gets upset that people aren't looking at ash.  This is the case that TA presents."

The EFHW interaction is what's weirdest to me. Even if you have already answered this (and I have searched multiple times and don't think you have!), don't you think it's in your benefit to state again why, so you can convince me (or other people, since you're sooooooooooo convinced I'm scum) that you're not scum?
You're frustrated becaue I just shot your case down?!? How about an apology?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXVI: Back to Basics (Day 1 start)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:17:26 pm »
(Gave not have)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XXVI: Back to Basics (Day 1 start)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:16:57 pm »
But you didn't vote until yuma did. You could have voted for lio earlier. You didn't. You felt that yuma had given you permission to do so. Even though for all we know--and I suspect this might be the case--he has nothing against lio and is trying to trap someone.
That's right robz....go ahead and tell me how I feel
Robz is making a decent point. You'd be best to counter it without appeal to emotions.

I find myself in a strange position where I tend to agree with sb on most of his reads but none of his reasoning. I'm town. Is he town arriving at the same conclusions in a different way? Or scum arriving at the same conclusions via invented reasoning? Either way, what does it say about my town play?

I have no constructive thoughts to offer at this point. I've re-read D1 and need to put my thoughts in order. Having 8 alive D2 is different. Never been in a game with that before.
I think it's not a decent thing to do...telling other people how they feel
But if you want an answer volt, no I never felt that Yuma have me permission. That is just beyond silly. When have I ever looked to anyone else for permission to vote? You don't know me if you think that's even a possibility

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:07:31 pm »

I did answer these questions (except the last one) I don't have to repeat myself for your satisfaction. That you keep claiming I didn't is a flat out lie...and remains my number one reason for you being scum
As for question 3, I am not in favor of lynching either. As both are not hiding in the background. I did have a scum read on shrae earlier (you would know this if you wetent tunneling a bad case)...but I'm null-town now. Efhw is town. I don't think ash is right about any "scumslip" when have we ever been right about scumslip?!?! Except when robz made a horrible mistake.  It just doesn't happen often and more often it's town we jump on for the supposed slip.
So go ahead tunnel away
I will continue to call out your aggressive when you push lies and call them a case

No, everytime I've asked these questions, you have said "I don't need to answer them, your case is so obviously ridiculously and wrong!!"

If you HAVE answered them, please quote the answers. It's a long thread, and I looked and didn't find them. Regardless, why is answering them again if you're town such a bad thing. Shouldn't you WANT to prove to me you're town.

Just because a person makes a case on you, even if you're town, DOES NOT MAKE THAT PERSON SCUM. You have a scum read on me based simply on the fact that I made a case on you. THAT'S tunneling, not my case. I looked at everything in the thread, noticed what you were saying was scummy, and brought it to everyone's attention, cause I think you're more than likely scum. But I've still been looking at other people. Just because I make a case and push it does not mean I'm tunneling, and it does not mean I'm scum. It's part of the game, dude.
It's not a case when it's composed entirely of lies.  And you sir are the definition of tunneling. How many posts now have you complained "can't we just lynch sb".

I don't know they're not composed of lies, though! It's reads. This is mafia. We read people. We make cases. We accuse people. Just because the cases are potentially wrong doesn't mean that they are lies. If you think they are lies, keep in mind, you are the only one who knows that, and no one else knows that. You have to CONVINCE us they are lies.

How many posts have I complained "can't we just lynch sb"? Certainly a decent amount. How many posts HAVEN'T I said that? A LOT.
That is just a terrible lie. You know for certain that you are pushing lies about me, because they aren't based on speculation, they are based on your twisting the facts.  The facts are that I have said why I believed efhw (ahop even quoted it). The rest of your so-called case is that town can't possibly believe efhw or side with her in the shrae disagreement.  That has already been completely discredited. 
So tunnel away. But don't think for one second I'm going to let you push your lies without standing up for myself

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:01:24 pm »
This doesn't look like a scumslip to me.  Why did I end up reading at least a page worth of posts about semantics?  It looks pretty apparent that EFHW is talking about the possibility of something happening, and it looks like speculation, not knowledge.

I disagree.  That's all.
I don't get why you would find efhw scummy for discussinG something TA brought up!  That seems to have gotten lost in your semantics debate...

Why does it matter that TA brought it up initially?  He's not finding EFHW scummy because she brought up the possibility, he's finding EFHW scummy because he thinks EFHW is talking about it not like it's a possibility, but like she already has info that such a power is in the game.
Let me get this right...you defend scum and tunnel town eh?

What?  Who am I even defending here?  I'm just saying if you think Ash's case is based on EFHW being the one to bring up the possibility, you're wrong, because that's not his case.
Why are you trying to draw meaningless distinctions?  Discussing theory is in one way ok, and in Another not!?
No this is s bad case and you are wrong to defend it

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM8 Innovation Inc. (Day 1 Start!)
« on: July 01, 2013, 12:56:46 pm »

I did answer these questions (except the last one) I don't have to repeat myself for your satisfaction. That you keep claiming I didn't is a flat out lie...and remains my number one reason for you being scum
As for question 3, I am not in favor of lynching either. As both are not hiding in the background. I did have a scum read on shrae earlier (you would know this if you wetent tunneling a bad case)...but I'm null-town now. Efhw is town. I don't think ash is right about any "scumslip" when have we ever been right about scumslip?!?! Except when robz made a horrible mistake.  It just doesn't happen often and more often it's town we jump on for the supposed slip.
So go ahead tunnel away
I will continue to call out your aggressive when you push lies and call them a case

No, everytime I've asked these questions, you have said "I don't need to answer them, your case is so obviously ridiculously and wrong!!"

If you HAVE answered them, please quote the answers. It's a long thread, and I looked and didn't find them. Regardless, why is answering them again if you're town such a bad thing. Shouldn't you WANT to prove to me you're town.

Just because a person makes a case on you, even if you're town, DOES NOT MAKE THAT PERSON SCUM. You have a scum read on me based simply on the fact that I made a case on you. THAT'S tunneling, not my case. I looked at everything in the thread, noticed what you were saying was scummy, and brought it to everyone's attention, cause I think you're more than likely scum. But I've still been looking at other people. Just because I make a case and push it does not mean I'm tunneling, and it does not mean I'm scum. It's part of the game, dude.
It's not a case when it's composed entirely of lies.  And you sir are the definition of tunneling. How many posts now have you complained "can't we just lynch sb".

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