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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« on: August 19, 2018, 03:58:28 pm »
Internet is still out, unfortunately. But I'll go ago and say I'm a mason, and Iguana's partner.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« on: August 17, 2018, 07:58:31 pm »
Hey, was going to come home and catch up this evening, but it turns out my internet is out, so Iím stuck to mobile for the time being. Iím in a similar place to robz, in that I havenít gotten into the flow of things. Galz flipping town definitely didnít help that feeling.

Re-reading this evening then hoping internet is fixed tomorrow so I can quote and post things, but probably will have to wait until tomorrow to contribute.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 06:08:14 pm »
Ugh are we really using "fake news" here in mafia games? OK, time to log off, that's absurd and I am so unhappy that that's bleeding into f.ds. Time to go cooldown

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 06:07:33 pm »
You could take anyone's posts and use language like that to spin a towny or a scummy narrative. That doesn't mean that it's a good case, and it just reads very very fake to me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 06:06:16 pm »
I don't love the silver case at all. In my eyes, it's a bunch of stuff that doesn't necessarily strike me as scummy. It's not necessarily towny, either, but it really reads like Galz is trying to paint every single post by silver as scummy to meet his conclusion. It doesn't read genuine at all.

If Galz is town, he has no idea what silver is. In his case, he reads basically every single post by silver in the worst possible light. This reads like someone trying to move to paint someone as scummy, and letting the conclusion lead the evidence, rather than the other way around.

Also, let's look at this vote count:

What do you feel?

Vote Count 1.10


silverspawn (3): Galzria, Simon Jester, EFHW
EFHW (1): Xxraptorslayer96
Simon Jester (4): silverspawn, SpaceAnemone, DatSwan, gkrieg13
Galzria (4): Robz888, iguanaiguana, Skumpy, Twistedarcher

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends Monday, August 13th at 7 pm FT. That's in ~1 hour.


Simon and Galzria, the two main lynch candidates up until the silver case, aren't voting for each other! They're both moving to get a third wagon going.

I'm fine with either Simon or Galzria, and I prefer Galz. That case on silver just reads so incredibly disingenous to me.

I didn't include or even point to over half of his posts. Most of his posts are null. Your complaint is that there is a lot of evidence to support my read, and you're trying to spin it that I'm simply calling every post out negatively with no real reason to do so, which is simply untrue.

Oh come on. Some posts are so null that you can't possibly get scum reads from them, and yet you're painting them in the worst possible light to further your case. You're telling me that you're really getting a scum read from the following quotes, and how you're quoting them really fed into your analysis before determining that you think silver is spawn? I call BS -- the following interpretations read extremely fake to me. You're just simply painting silver in the worst possible light.
Quote from: Galzria
Simon seems so scummy to me that I'm beginning to think it's not an alignment think but a tone thing.

"Dude over here is scummy... but you didn't hear it from me!"

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I super duper strongly disagree that only scum cares about scumslips. I think town cares more about scumslips, generally.

This doesn't seem like one to me either, but I wouldn't disount it completely.

"This probably isn't a scumslip... but it could be!"

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That's a stupid vote. My instinct is to vote you in return but I don't think it actually makes you scummy.

"You deserve to be voted for your post... but I don't wanna be the one to do it!"

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ok. vote: EFHW is as good as any.

I can't remember any game in which she was lynched early. Let's see what some day1 pressure does.

"Let's get and EFHW wagon going!..."

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Also unvote I don't like the EFHW wagon. It has basically no justification and picked up too quickly.

The people who jumped on it are where I would look for scum now. Ironically, that's iguana. But then he changed. The others are raptor and simon.

vote: simon

"That was a scummy wagon on EFHW. I need to make sure to spin this to other people before it comes back to me for jumping on it with Iguana"


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 06:02:43 pm »
I definitely want to lynch Galz after that case. I think he's scum desperately scrambling to get another wagon going, and using every post he can and painting it in the most malicious light to get silver to look as scummy as possible.

If he's town, it's just such a sloppy case, that still takes a conclusion (silver = scum), and tries to go back and find evidence to paint it that way, and I don't think that's likely coming from town!Galz. I think town!Galz jumps on Simon here rather than making that weird case on silver.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 05:58:54 pm »
Really, it's so incredibly odd for Galzria and Simon to not be voting for each other. If I'm town, D1 I'm voting for ANYONE if they're the alternate wagon. I don't care how big a town read I have on them, it's D1 and it's a shot in the dark. The fact that Galz and Simon are the two largest wagons, and are both voting for a third wagon, silver, rather than for each other, is setting off enormous alarms in my head.

Silver has shot way up on my town list as a result of this

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 05:56:43 pm »
I don't love the silver case at all. In my eyes, it's a bunch of stuff that doesn't necessarily strike me as scummy. It's not necessarily towny, either, but it really reads like Galz is trying to paint every single post by silver as scummy to meet his conclusion. It doesn't read genuine at all.

If Galz is town, he has no idea what silver is. In his case, he reads basically every single post by silver in the worst possible light. This reads like someone trying to move to paint someone as scummy, and letting the conclusion lead the evidence, rather than the other way around.

Also, let's look at this vote count:

What do you feel?

Vote Count 1.10


silverspawn (3): Galzria, Simon Jester, EFHW
EFHW (1): Xxraptorslayer96
Simon Jester (4): silverspawn, SpaceAnemone, DatSwan, gkrieg13
Galzria (4): Robz888, iguanaiguana, Skumpy, Twistedarcher

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends Monday, August 13th at 7 pm FT. That's in ~1 hour.


Simon and Galzria, the two main lynch candidates up until the silver case, aren't voting for each other! They're both moving to get a third wagon going.

I'm fine with either Simon or Galzria, and I prefer Galz. That case on silver just reads so incredibly disingenous to me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 04:28:59 pm »
FOS to everyone not actively moving us to a lynch. Thereís a lot of people who still have their votes in useless places 2.5 hours to deadline, and some of these people have come in and posted and not moved their votes.

Everyone should be stating how they feel about Simon and galzria, and if theyíre not willing to lynch either then try to get a third wagon going, but we really donít have much time left.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 04:24:37 pm »
Apart from Simon and robz, who is completely null, Iím happy with the people on the galzria wagon. More town reads on wagon than off wagon.

Gkriegís tunneling on skumpy is weird in that itís not going to happen today, he should know based on the vote count itís not happening today, so he should be trying to move one of the lynches thatís actually possible forward, but heís not doing so.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 04:21:22 pm »
Regardless, I donít think scum skumpy would buddy Simon this hard if Simon was either town. So I donít want to lynch skumpy while Simon is alive, I am definitely leaning town on skumpy.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 04:19:30 pm »
Skumpyís rant is over the top but reads genuine town to me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 04:18:55 pm »
Yeah, Iím perfectly happy voting Galz.

vote: galzria

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 11:31:02 am »
I donít think thereís enough time to start a new wagon, though.

Gkrieg, I donít think skumpy will happen today ó Iíd recommend moving your vote to somewhere a lynch would happen.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 13, 2018, 11:29:36 am »

Simon-skunpy are definitely buddying, but if itís town/scum I think skumpy is the more likely town than Simon. When youíre the Lynch candidate if youíre scum, itís not in your interest to rule anyone out, especially d1. I am much happier voting Simon than skumpy.

Would also not be surprised if scum is in robz/gkrieg/galz, with galz being my favorite candidate. I do kind of agree with simons latest assessment, that town is flailing today and getting nowhere and thereís absolutely no action needed from scum to get the ball rolling in another direction.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 12, 2018, 10:29:40 pm »
Vote: Simon

Better him than me.

Iguana is reading very town to me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 11, 2018, 01:34:08 pm »
I'm on board with vote: EFHW, as good as anyone to me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 10, 2018, 02:50:50 pm »
Galzria is giving me a slighty scum feel. Iguana reads townyish to me. Simon is scummier, And I donít really have reads on any else. No real town reads thus far.

bote: galzria to have my vote somewhere

How is Simon scummier?

He seems very self aware and focusing on how people read him was my impression. But I donít know if thatís a scum tell or a personality tell, a lot of people act this way very naturally. You (efhw) have given that impression as well.

Iím a bit surprised that Iíve contributed nothing and Iíve gotten zero suspicion, really no one has even talked about me at all this game. Maybe Iím getting a pass because itís my first game in awhile, but Iíd have expected people to be more suspicious of me.

Iím going to re-read raptor since heís got 4 votes on him right now. Iím having trouble forming opinions on anyone since I feel like thereís been lots of noise and little substance thus far ó every post I read and then throw aside because I get nothing from it on initial read, but itís time for me to dig in more and make an actual opinion. Iím hoping doing a targeted read vs going through the thread will come up with something.

I said galz seemed scummy (vote: galzria to get it on record) but I donít remember why other than an impression off of one post.

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General Discussion / Re: TV shows
« on: August 10, 2018, 02:40:58 pm »
If you donít want a slow and grindy show, good place should be great for you.  The action moves extremely quickly.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 09, 2018, 03:26:06 pm »
Galzria is giving me a slighty scum feel. Iguana reads townyish to me. Simon is scummier, And I donít really have reads on any else. No real town reads thus far.

bote: galzria to have my vote somewhere

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 09, 2018, 03:23:50 pm »
I don't see Skumpy as scum here, I really don't. It would be too easy just let this game keep sleeping and Skumpy is trying to do, well, at least something with it. I don't want to scumread active players, not this early anyway. Lynch the lurkers!

Vote: Xxraptor

Could you please elaborate your vote for me a little more now? Is the alt-account-thing still the reason or is there anything more to it?

Iím surprised to see such a read on skumpy. I donít think heís scum but I also think heís town. Do you think heís town, or do you just not want to lynch him because heís active? Youíre saying both but theyíre very different reasons to not want to lynch him.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 08, 2018, 02:04:46 pm »
I've been reading and not posting, so technically I have been lurking. Nothing has struck me as alignment indicative. But maybe if I nit-pick a bit something will turn up. Will get back to you soon.

These are my exact thoughts as well, and yet you posting them gives me a slight slight scummy vibe..
Hm, that doesn't seem fair, somehow...

I know! And yet that's the impression I got.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 08, 2018, 01:12:37 pm »
I've been reading and not posting, so technically I have been lurking. Nothing has struck me as alignment indicative. But maybe if I nit-pick a bit something will turn up. Will get back to you soon.

These are my exact thoughts as well, and yet you posting them gives me a slight slight scummy vibe..

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 07, 2018, 10:51:17 pm »
Iím here and caught up, but donít have anything concrete to really add at the moment. Definitely wonít do a pact to not vote for anyone without more information.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 1)
« on: August 07, 2018, 01:33:07 pm »
Simon seems so scummy to me that I'm beginning to think it's not an alignment think but a tone thing.

Agree with this

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