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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Interview with Donald X.
« on: February 21, 2019, 02:38:49 pm »
One could argue that the existence of the supernatural, such as Werewolf, Witch, etc; dictates that it must be set in some other fantasy world, similar to Middle Earth.

Is magic real?

This question got me thinking: what is a curse thematically? They seem to imply magic, but lots of non-magical stuff gives them out: Mountebanks, Jesters, Hideouts, etc.
Initially the idea was to have a hint of magic with no clear demonstration of it being real magic. I decided to make Alchemy anyway, it had pure fantasy things. Then when the main set was published, Witch was shown with magic despite me specifying otherwise, so so much for that. In the end the game is set in the medieval Europe of many stories, not just fairy tales but you know, Shakespeare plays and so on; it's mostly the real world, but with some magical stuff. People believed in ghost ships and there's a ghost ship, you know. Except Alchemy has some flat-out fantasy stuff, and then Nocturne has tons of it, it's Celtic fairy tales.

With magic not being clearly real, Witch and Mountebank are the same kind of thing. With actual magic, well Curses I guess are both magical and non-magical things that are in your way.

Sir Bailey had the second copy of Dominion, and took the name Castle Builder to heart, changing Curse to Rubble and having those attacks be siege weapons. I considered Rubble but stuck with Curse.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Interview with Donald X.
« on: February 21, 2019, 02:21:55 pm »
One could argue that the existence of the supernatural, such as Werewolf, Witch, etc; dictates that it must be set in some other fantasy world, similar to Middle Earth.

Is magic real?
They Might Be Giants - Science Is Real

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Interview with Donald X.
« on: February 21, 2019, 02:21:19 pm »
A curious question a friend's just asked, which I don't think I've ever seen addressed:

Is Dominion set on Earth?
Dominion is set on Earth, mostly in medieval times, though Empires has ancient Rome and Renaissance is the end of the period.

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Rules Questions / Re: Face Down requirement for Knights and Ruins?
« on: February 21, 2019, 02:16:56 pm »
There are 2 reasons for it.

1) It would be easy to accidentally see a card other than the top card if they were face up. When you take the top card, you can easily nudge the pile so that they aren't perfectly stacked. You would have to be super careful when taking a card to not accidentally show more cards.

2) You are allowed to count cards in supply piles, but if they were all face up, counting them would basically automatically let you see them.
Also you will want to read the top Knight, and pick it up without thinking, and there's the next Knight for all to see.

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What "recent event" was this?
Xyrix aka hypercube posted the $5 qvist lists, done by him and tracer and Chris is me, in order from first to last. This caused no hardships to anyone and I respect their wish to do it the way they wanted to.

Gendoikari reposted the two portions of lists thus far posted but in reverse order, last to first, like other people were doing it. This caused no hardships to anyone and I respect his wish to have the list the way he wanted it.

theory edited hypercube's list to be Gendoikari's list. This was done innocently, not realizing anyone had any reason to get mad. When it turned out some people did get mad - a common thing when posts are edited - he said oops sorry, he wouldn't do it again. hypercube restored the original first-to-last lists in his thread; a happy ending.

But wait. tracer has now posted these new lists off-site. I do not respect this; it's just being pissy over something he already got his way on. Well, maybe he didn't see that post, and thinks this is hilarious. I guess it's mildly funny. Someone could paste that content into a post here, but what's the point? It's the opinions of someone who really didn't need you to see them.

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I guess those "recent events" don't include where theory said he wouldn't do it again.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Advice on my next expansion purchase?
« on: February 20, 2019, 02:05:44 pm »
It feels to me like that's judging the complexity of a set by the complexity of its most baroque cards? I tend to focus more on average complexity, and half the cards in Guilds are really simple.
Seaside also has really simple cards. Lots of them.

I have previous posts explaining what I mean by complexity. I don't need to convince you that e.g. Guilds is more complex than Seaside; that's where I stand though.

At one point in playtesting I compared Renaissance to Hinterlands (ignoring Projects as there was no way to line them up, and man you can play without them, but including Artifacts). I counted the number of words, and also tried to estimate card complexity non-word-wise. Renaissance came out less-complex. It's trickier to do this with Guilds as it's half the size, but you can just double your numbers.

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Rules Questions / Re: Trashing a Gladiator that's under a Fortune?
« on: February 20, 2019, 01:54:24 pm »
Can a Gladiator trash a Gladiator that's in the Supply but is covered by a Fortune?
No, only the top card of the pile is accessible.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Advice on my next expansion purchase?
« on: February 20, 2019, 11:47:46 am »
Regarding your section on "Let's start simple!" - am I to infer that Cornucopia and Guilds are more complex than Renaissance, then? Or would Cornucopia be on par with Seaside, Prosperity, and Renaissance?
I wasn't ignoring Cornucopia / Guilds when picking the simplest expansions; I intentionally didn't pick them. Guilds is easily the most complex of those five, with word monsters like Doctor. Cornucopia is not so bad, though Tournament is one of the most complex cards ever, requiring you to understand a 2x2 payoff grid and read 5 more cards. Cornucopia is less complex than e.g. Adventures but still more complex on average than e.g. Seaside (though Seaside has twice as many cards to learn).

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And so is a Hunting Grounds that trashes a Copper, for what it's worth.
How do you get that from any of the cards mentioned?
He is reminding people that he likes Pooka.

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Yes, but Nocturne has too many additional cards to read, in a way that can be overwhelming.

That is again just your opinion. It's Donald X.'s opinion too. That doesn't mean that Nocturne isn't my favorite expansion, though. I tend to enjoy those complex effects more, despite knowing that having simple cards is also important.

EDIT: To be very clear, I agree with Donald X. that Nocturne could be improved, and possibly split into two sets. It's still my favorite set, though.
It was a lot of fun to playtest. As a product, the complexity was over the top, but for us it was great. It was a sad surprise at the release party to see how slowly people were resolving Hexes.

The Guide is trying to answer "what expansion should I get next," rather than be my opinions of the sets. For me at the time the sets just got better and better, except for Alchemy which was rushed, and Guilds getting moved to last because of Base Cards coming out. Then after the break, the new sets were even better - better polished and with more content. Since the main set and Intrigue got patched up, Intrigue has risen to be the best of the early sets, while Seaside is now the worst set after Alchemy, followed by Prosperity - those two sets that everyone recommends.

Empires and Renaissance I can recommend without reservations. Adventures is great, but I should have consolidated token types, had fewer different tokens. I'm sure that could have worked out, and then it would be great and with fewer tokens to paw through. Nocturne I should have split into two sets, and replaced Hexes with something else. It's loaded with fun cards, but it's a product, and could have been better for its audience.

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But every single other card list, both this year and years past, has been posted in the same way, so it seems really weird and bad to suddenly have one thread that is different than all the rest.
They haven't all been posted the same way, unless you mean, eventually. http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18150.0

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Well, two threads for the Qvist rankings is better than three threads for the same expansion recommendation question.
But how should I store the cards? That's what I want to know.

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No idea why that person did that, but we did encounter software bugs that can mess up the rankings in ordered mode.
I am going to guess, they just had their list backwards.

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I also thought that posting it in the wrong order and not starting with #1 is bad.
But having two threads is even worse.
Two threads is nothing; to see all the comments on the rankings you have to go to another site.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion current Popularity?
« on: February 18, 2019, 03:59:39 pm »
Can someone explain stuff to me, as someone who has just briefly used Discord? It looks like just a big chat room... like Slack or Skype or whatever. Is it not? I don't understand how it's a substitute or replacement for a forum; it seems like a completely different thing. Someone could ask a question, and the person who knows the answer logs on the next day; they won't see that question, because lots of other messages have been sent since then. How would a person even start to see what new stuff has been posted since they last checked?

The way people talk about Discord makes me think I must be completely misunderstanding what it is. But I've seen it first-hand, though just a tiny bit. It looks like a chat room.
It's multiple chat rooms, mostly themed around Dominion topics. The channels are like threads, although they will end up with sub-topics that can be like threads too. A new topic getting talked about a bunch, or the anticipation of that, can cause a new channel to get made, e.g. the current cardqvist channel; when it dies down it gets archived, e.g. the championship channel. You can see what people are saying, reply to them, start a new conversation.

I mean, so the qvist lists have been posted here, and people have discussed them some here, but way more in the discord channel. On the last page as of this moment, it is mostly talk about Scepter. They talked about Scepter; it worked out fine. People said things and said things about things. It in no way suffered from the lack of ability of someone to easily join the conversation many hours later, and in fact you could join that conversation now, or mention something someone said hours earlier if you wanted.

otoh, the qvist lists themselves aren't on the discord; that content is better for forums or front pages.

When I log on, it jumps me to the start of new stuff in each channel as I click on it. I scroll through it at whatever pace, depending on how interesting it is. There's a lot of "here's a board, what would you have done differently" and I don't usually read those.

I recommend just trying it out; go on, say something about a topic, see how it goes.

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You didn't necessarily, but the "someone else" section does and it's in the guide.
Yes; other people overrate Prosperity, and that's what that section is about, what other people say.

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It's fine that Patron is strictly* better than Silver at ; pretty much all the reasons that Donald avoids having a better-than-Silver at only apply to strictly better, not to strictly* better.
Patron causes the problem that I avoided for many years by not making Silver-with-a-bonus at $4, though it dodges being strictly better than $4 Silver on paper because you need to play it once to have a villager to not draw it dead. I decided to live with it for that one card and in practice it doesn't come up so often, though I have seen it.

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Kudos to Donald for posting this. That said, Donald seems not favorable enough to Renaissance and too favorable to Nocturne. Renaissance sets a new standard in terms of adding a lot to the game without as much complexity as some other recent sets. For the high degree of complexity, Nocturne does not add as much to the game as the other recent sets (and the card pool isnít as favorable to decks that draw cards, that is, what I and many others perceive as the most fun decks) as other recent sets).
I was trying not to say "this is the best one, as if my opinion is the one to listen to" outside of that one section on the best sets, which lists both Renaissance and Nocturne and I mean I think they both belong there.

I did not put Prosperity on that list, or in the runners-up list in that section, so, I don't see how I overrated it (@Awaclus).

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One thing that stands out to me is that Donald doesn't mention Duration cards in regards to Empires, Nocturne, or Renaissance. I guess the idea was that Adventure's "Duration cards return" was meant as "starting with Adventures, Duration cards became part of every set". But that's not clear; if I didn't know otherwise, I would have thought that Durations only existed in Seaside and Adventures.
"They finally came back in Adventures, and the later sets each have a few Duration cards." I guess it doesn't mention that Nocturne is especially heavy in them.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Advice on my next expansion purchase?
« on: February 18, 2019, 12:13:48 pm »
Ha - thanks. I didn't expect to get input from the man himself. Sorry I didn't find your post before posting myself - very thorough and helpful.
It wasn't there; I just posted it. I've had it sitting around, and saw your post and thought, oh yeah, I should post that.

For you in particular, I recommend Empires for variety and interaction, or Intrigue 2E for accessibility.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Advice on my next expansion purchase?
« on: February 18, 2019, 11:50:27 am »
I'd appreciate advice, opinions, thoughts to consider. I really do want to cap at four for financial reasons, so I'm vested in optimizing my decision. Thanks!
Here's what I think: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=19523.0

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The Bible of Donald X. / Donald X.'s Guide to 12 Dominion Expansions
« on: February 18, 2019, 11:49:54 am »
Lots of people ask: what Dominion expansion should I get next? They have different criteria in mind and well this guide will try to answer that question for a variety of criteria.

It can be helpful to look at the cards, see what's in the expansions. The wiki has images of all of them: http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Main_Page

TERSE DESCRIPTIONS

Mainly there's the main set and 12 expansions. You technically don't need the main set - you could know the game and get Base Cards plus any expansions. So I have to consider it too.

Small - 150 cards: Alchemy, Cornucopia, Guilds
Regular - 300 cards: Intrigue, Seaside, Prosperity, Hinterlands, Empires, Renaissance
Large - 400 cards: Adventures
Extra large - 500 cards: Dominion (due to base cards), Dark Ages, Nocturne

Dominion: The main set - includes base cards needed to play. The focus is on simplicity.
Intrigue: Cards that give you a choice, and victory cards that do something.
Seaside: Duration cards - they do something this turn and next turn.
Alchemy: Potions - a new resource that most of the cards in the set require to buy them.
Prosperity: Adds Platinum and Colony as a step above Gold and Province; Treasures that do things, VP tokens (worth 1 VP at end of game).
Cornucopia: Variety theme.
Hinterlands: "When you gain/buy this" theme.
Dark Ages: Trash theme; Shelters to replace starting Estates; Ruins which are similar to Curses; Spoils which is a one-use Gold.
Guilds: Coffers tokens ($ you can save), overpay (pay extra for a card to get an effect when buying it).
Adventures: Duration cards return; Reserve cards you can save until you want to use them; Events, effects you can buy that aren't cards.
Empires: VP tokens return; more Events; Landmarks, things you don't buy that modify scores; Debt that lets you pay for a card later; Split piles with two or more cards in them.
Nocturne: Night - a new phase after the Buy phase with cards usable then; Boons/Hexes - small random good/bad things that cards generate; non-supply Spirits; cards with Heirlooms that replace starting Coppers.
Renaissance: Coffers tokens return; Villager tokens (+1 Action you can save); Projects, abilities you can buy that aren't cards; Artifacts, abilities only one player can have at a time.

But wait, there are other products you might find. I'll ignore these elsewhere in this guide, but let's see what they are.

Dominion and Intrigue were changed, with 6 cards dropped and 7 cards added. Thus we have:

Dominion, first edition: This is the only way to get the 6 cards dropped from Dominion. They were dropped with good reason! You don't need this. And it's not in print (in English), though there are lots of copies out there.
Intrigue, first edition: Similarly this is how you get the 6 cards dropped from Intrigue. You don't need them. Also this version of Intrigue was standalone - it has the base cards needed to play, meaning it's 500 cards.
Dominion Update Pack: Just the 7 cards added to Dominion. If you don't have them they are a great source of 7 pretty simple but still interesting cards. This is out of print (the expectation being that the people who wanted it got it, and new copies of Dominion just have the new cards).
Intrigue Update Pack: And the 7 cards added to Intrigue. They are pretty sweet imo. Out of print.

The other expansions through Adventures got new versions with improved layout, but no new cards.

There's more:

Base Cards: Just the basic cards needed to play - Copper Silver Gold Estate Duchy Province Curse - plus a few similar things that have appeared in expansions - Platinum Colony Potion. Once they were prettier than the main set / expansion versions; now everything is even prettier. You could want this in order to aviod buying Dominion itself, though it's a fine product, or if you want to go to 5-6 players.
Promos: Over the years some promos have come out. They're are a mixed bag, typically too weak or too strong. Some of them are fun though. You can buy them at BoardGameGeek and support the site at the same time.
Mixed Box: It's Cornucopia plus Guilds in one box; we no longer sell them separately (in English). I couldn't quite bring myself to combine them in this guide though.
Big Box: The current one is Dominion plus Intrigue plus extra base cards so you can play with 5-6 players. The old out of print one was Dominion plus Prosperity plus Alchemy, for some reason.

Non-English language versions include different Big Boxes and different Mixed Boxes and random assortment products; I don't have all the information on those. Hobby Japan also makes rethemes - mixes of cards from multiple expansions, with different flavor. You can look those things up on BoardGameGeek if you want. 999 Games makes an intro product in Dutch that's smaller than the normal main game.

LONGER DESCRIPTIONS

If you just want a few sentences more on each set, I'm there for you.

Dominion: Some of the simplest cards in the game, covering all the most common kinds of abilities. Most of you have this already. If you don't, I recommend getting it; while it's possible to get base cards elsewhere, these cards are great to add to your games.

Intrigue: This expands on the main game in the simplest way possible, without much to send you to the rulebook. There is a theme of cards that give you a choice - something like "choose one..." or "name a card." There are also Victory cards with abilities, including Action - Victory cards and a Treasure - Victory card, plus a few cards that like those cards.

Seaside: Introduces Duration cards - orange cards that set up something to happen in the future. Many of them simply do something this turn, and that thing or another thing on your next turn. The rest of the set has some related cards, like stuff that interacts with the top of your deck. Duration cards were much admired on their debut. They finally came back in Adventures, and the later sets each have a few Duration cards. But they started out here.

Alchemy: Adds a new basic pile, Potions, which produce a new resource. To buy cards with the potion symbol in the cost, you need to play a Potion. The set also has an action-chaining theme, which it got to make sure that most of the cards were worth buying a Potion for even if no other cards in the game required a Potion. Some people adore Alchemy, but it tends to be people's least favorite set.

Prosperity: The overall theme is "spendy." There are Platinum and Colony, new base cards above Gold and Province; there are Treasures that do things when you play them or while they're in play; and there are at last cards that cost $7. There are also three cards that use VP tokens - a way to have VP without it being a card in your deck.

Cornucopia: There are no new rulebook mechanics in this small expansion. The theme of the set is variety, with cards that care about the variety of cards you have in your deck, or in your hand, or in play, and some cards that can get you more variety.

Hinterlands: This is a simpler set. The main theme is cards that do something (extra) either when you buy them or when you gain them. There are 3 Reactions, 3 special Treasures, and 3 Victory cards, but that's only 7 cards total. A number of cards push "filtering" - getting through your deck without using all the cards.

Dark Ages: This is a sprawling set full of crazy combos. There is a trash theme, cards that do something when you trash them, lots of ways to trash things, and a few things that care what's in the trash or can take cards out of it. The Ruins pile is like Curses but more interesting, with 3 cards handing them out. The Spoils pile is an unbuyable one-use Gold that 3 cards give out. Starting Estates can be replaced with Shelters, which have little abilities to spice up those games.

Guilds: A small set with two themes: Coffers tokens, which you can cash in in your Buy phase for +$1, and overpay, which is cards that let you pay extra for them in order to generate an effect when you buy the card.

Adventures: Duration cards return, including Duration attacks and Duration cards that just hang around in play all game. The Tavern mat gives you a place to put Reserve cards, which go to your mat when played and can be "called" off later to do what they do. For the first time a new kind of card is shuffled in with the randomizers (or kept separate if you prefer): Events. A game can have 0-2 Events; they give you an effect you can buy in your Buy phase, but aren't a card in anyone's deck. There are two Travellers, cards that upgrade themselves four times each.

Empires: VP tokens return, with lots of uses for them, including cards that they pile up on. In addition to more Events, there are Landmarks, more randomizer-deck cards that can be added to a game. They provide a way to score VP, sometimes with tokens or sometimes just calculated at the end of the game. You use 0-2 Events/Landmarks total. Some cards cost Debt, which means you don't have to pay for the card now, but can't buy other things until you finish paying off the Debt. There are 5 Split piles that have two different cards in them - five copies of each - plus the Castles pile with 8 different Victory cards.

Nocturne: This expansion adds a new phase, Night, which occurs after the Buy phase and before Clean-up. The only thing it means is, there are Night cards that you only play then. This lets them care about what happened during the turn, and many of them do; others go right into your hand when gained, so you can buy one and then immediately play it at Night. There are two small decks of random good/bad effects, the Boons and Hexes, and cards that cause you to turn over one of those cards and see what happens. Seven cards have Heirlooms, which are special Treasures that replace a starting Copper in games using that card. Several cards use new non-Supply cards, the Spirits. Overall it's the most flavorful set.

Renaissance: This set is much simpler than the last few, but still has four mechanics. Coffers tokens return, paired with Villagers, which are tokens you can cash in in your Action phase for +1 Action. Projects are randomizer-deck things like Events, but instead of getting a one-time effect, you get a permanent ability. You use 0-2 Events/Landmarks/Project per game. Artifacts are non-deck cards that only one player can have at a time; the cards that produce them will let you take them from other players.

LET'S START OFF SIMPLE

The main set is especially simple; start there! Intrigue is next simplest, adding just "Victory cards can do things" as a concept, and never really sending you to the rulebook. Hinterlands is pretty simple, and then, simple but with more new stuff, we have Seaside, Prosperity, and Renaissance.

I JUST WANT THE BEST EXPANSIONS OKAY

You get better with experience; I think the later sets - Adventures, Empires, Nocturne, Renaissance - are all more polished than the earlier sets, with fewer duds, and lots of exciting content. I also especially like the revamped Intrigue, and Dark Ages. Note however that Adventures, Empires, and Nocturne are the three most complex expansions.

I WANT THE SETS THAT ADD THE MOST TO THE GAME

Adventures, Empires, and Renaissance add not just kingdom cards but also Events / Landmarks / Projects, which add lots of variety to the game. After those, some expansions mess with the starting decks or basic cards: Prosperity adds Platinum / Colony; Dark Ages has Shelters and is also 500 cards; Nocturne has Heirlooms.

I WANT LOTS OF PLAYER INTERACTION

Empires has the most interaction overall: it has attacks, split piles, and Gathering piles (they accumulate tokens one player will get), plus many of the Landmarks are interactive.

I HATE ATTACKS

Renaissance only has two, getting much of its interaction from the Artifacts that players can compete for. Prosperity and Empires only have three, although Prosperity's three get played a lot. All three sets make up for that reduced interaction by having more non-attack interaction.

WAIT, I LOVE ATTACKS

Intrigue and Seaside have some especially vicious attacks, attacks that make the game be about that card. Dark Ages has fewer attacks by %, but they include the ones that give out Ruins cards, plus the Knights pile; if you like attacks, you will want to see the Knights. Nocturne has attacks that give out Hexes, which are random effects.

I WANT THE BEST PLAYER TO WIN

Any new expansion you get will favor the best player for a while. Empires helps the better player via VP tokens, so many ways to catch up to a lead in Provinces. Dark Ages and Renaissance help the player better at spotting card interactions. Renaissance and Guilds help the player better at knowing when to use up Coffers and Villagers.

I WANT CRAZY SURPRISING THINGS TO HAPPEN

Nocturne has the most randomness, with completely random Boons and Hexes. Dark Ages and Renaissance push card interactions, and can produce lots of crazy surprising ones.

I WANT BIG BUT LESS SURPRISING THINGS TO HAPPEN

Prosperity has a "big" theme, with Platinum and Colony as the next step from Gold and Province, and cards costing $7. Empires picks up from there, with a treasure that doubles your $, an Event that makes 15 VP total, and cards that cost 8 debt.

I LIKE THEME

Nocturne and Adventures stand out as having more thematic cards than other expansions - at the expense of, they're more complex too. Dominion's theme gets singled out some for ridicule, but well, whether that's your stance or not, those expansions are heavier on theme.

WHICH SETS HAVE THOSE COOL METAL TOKENS

Empires has VP tokens and Debt tokens; Prosperity has VP tokens and coin tokens; Seaside has coin tokens and Embargo tokens (they are only used with Embargo). Guilds and Renaissance have coin tokens. In terms of actually using the tokens, Empires and Renaissance get the most out of their metal.

NO FIDDLY BITS FOR ME

Dominion, Intrigue, and Hinterlands have no extra bits and no extra piles.

WHAT'S NEXT IF I LIKED...

Dominion: Intrigue does the least to stray from the basics.
Intrigue: Empires has lots of VP tokens, which are more non-deck VP. Guilds and Renaissance push choices.
Seaside: Duration cards return with a vengeance in Adventures.
Alchemy: If you liked the action-chaining, try Dark Ages.
Prosperity: Empires is kind of a sequel to Prosperity.
Cornucopia: There isn't much that cares about variety outside of Cornucopia, but some sets help you get variety - Dark Ages, Nocturne.
Hinterlands: All later sets have a little when-gain, but Renaissance has more than usual.
Dark Ages: Renaissance has some more trash-combo stuff. Nocturne has more non-Supply piles and starting-deck cards.
Guilds: Renaissance revisits Coffers. Hinterlands debuted when-gain, related to the overpay cards.
Adventures: Seaside debuted Duration cards. Events are also in Empires, and the related Projects appear in Renaissance. If you liked the flavor, Nocturne is especially flavorful.
Empires: This is kind of a sequel to Prosperity. Adventures debuted Events, and Renaissance has the related Projects.
Nocturne: Dark Ages has more non-Supply piles and starting-deck cards. Adventures also has fantasy elements.
Renaissance: Guilds introduced Coffers. Dark Ages has more trash-combo stuff, Hinterlands more when-gain. Adventures and Empires have Events, which are related to Projects.

BUT WHAT WOULD SOMEONE ELSE RECOMMEND

Seaside and Prosperity! When they came out they were the best sets. People have a lot of nostalgia for them. Duration cards from Seaside were popular; some people never want to play without Platinum and Colony from Prosperity. Among the later sets, Empires was especially well received.

If you look at BoardGameGeek ratings, expansion ratings are always warped; an expansion (correctly) tends to only get rated by people who have it, which tends to be people who were pretty pleased up to then. So expansions rate higher than games, and later expansions rate higher because the people who bought ten expansions are bigger fans than the people who bought two. So you can't just look at the ratings and get a clear story. Still, trying to take that into account, Prosperity and Empires stand out as outliers, higher than expected.

HEY WHAT ABOUT CORNUCOPIA AND ALCHEMY?

None of the above categories recommend these expansions. In the case of Alchemy, well, it's most people's least favorite expansion; I'd get it last. Cornucopia I think is great; it just doesn't fall into any of those categories. The variety theme is a unique thing that people like but don't specifically ask for.

AND THAT'S THAT

There you have it. When people say, what expansion should I get next, here is a thing you can link them to.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion.Online issues
« on: February 17, 2019, 08:34:19 pm »
So after years of IRL, I am trying the Dominion.Online.  Question 1) where do I post my concerns about the game? I test software for a living so I have found a few issues, but do not want to make them public.  2) Have they considered allowing a version of purchasing playing a number of games per purchase vs per month payment plans?
I don't know what they've considered. Their forums are: http://forum.shuffleit.nl/

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Dominion current Popularity?
« on: February 17, 2019, 01:42:07 am »
I'm not a Discord user, but by my understanding it's ephemeral? Isn't that a problem for conversations people might want to refer back to years later?
If you had posted this on discord, and I'd been around, I would have replied immediately. If I hadn't been around, I wouldn't have replied at all. Given that it's a forum post, I saw it, didn't feel like putting in the effort at the time, and here I am replying to it the next day.

So to me it seems like, in terms of the flow of conversation, a post on discord is more ephemeral. In terms of storage, they're just as stored and awkward to search.

Like many forum sites, this one started as a front page of articles you could reply to with comments. Forums are a better version of that and took over. The current front page would be well served by generating a forum discussion thread for each article, say in the articles forum. Anyway the forums are a good version of article replies, but discord works fine for that too.

Discord is better for chatting, which turns out to be a lot of what people want to do - less-thought-out conversations that occur in real-time. Forum games, it depends, discord or forums could be better. If you want to re-read pages of mafia discussions, okay, forums, but I have to think people are playing mafia on discord right now and loving it. Things like tournament reports are currently handled by youtube, with some discussion happening on discord. Discussing strategy works fine on discord.

Discord has, by convention, a lower barrier to entry on posting. For some people it's the same - hey it's just a convention. But for many, a post is more intimidating, suggests that more thought be put into it. Now maybe you want to be reading stuff that more thought went into. I personally think the lower barrier to entry is way better. It encourages posting, meaning it's more likely that there's actually something to read.

So, I recommend joining the discord. I don't think discord is just killing forums - note that a zillion sites still have articles with comment sections. But for sure a lot of our traffic has shifted there.

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