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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 05:24:29 pm »
Nonsense. Town benefits from not rushing into a mislynch, and doesn't suffer at all from taking a reasonable amount of time in which to react to new ideas being posted in-thread. New ideas such as all my questions over your claim and everyone's apparent belief that we have a green, red and orange faction but nothing else.

I have a mental list of points I'd wanted to lead town through, starting with asking you about your flip colour. I hadn't even gotten around to following up on the issues surrounding RBs, multiple actions and tracker results. Joth never finished explaining why he wanted to redirect WCD onto e. Awaclus was never even pressed for a real full-claim. I know he was the least-scummy-looking one of the bunch yesterday (to me at least, only because yesterday I was quite sure that Joth and possibly Glooble/WCD were in another Anaandre cult), but that's not a good excuse for not making him give a better description of what he was doing, in case it interfered with anything anyone else hadn't claimed because they were holding back. This day was nowhere near done.

If you wanted to challenge everyone's apparent belief that we only had three factions or follow up on the issues surrounding RBs, you could have chosen not to lie to us about both of these issues in the first place.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 03:57:06 pm »
Is UoS still our best guess for scum?

The most important thing is that you and Joth need to stop listening to e and Awaclus and letting them take over the thread. They've created a completely unnecessary sense of urgency that's led the two of you to vote for me, at which point e quick-hammered. Be slow and rational and consider all the options.

There wasn't a sense of urgency, there was just nothing going on so it was nice for the game to keep moving.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 03:53:03 pm »
Is UoS still our best guess for scum?

Yes.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 03:17:39 pm »
Scum does have a roleblock of their own though because joth also got blocked that night.

Also joth is probably town then.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 03:10:51 pm »
Scum does have a roleblock of their own though because joth also got blocked that night.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 03:08:17 pm »
I am going to need to do a full post of claims tomorrow (if I get there).  This stream of conscious posting I forget things.

Hmm.. I guess 2v2 isn't a total loss if you're able to make someone hated, but Awaclus has a RB, so you're probably screwed unless there's only one scum left anyway.

I'm town though so my roleblock is another way we can hope to win.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 02:56:18 pm »
Ironically, I tried to recruit e both on N1 and N3. If he's actually scum, that would have been very bad for me, but it seemed worth the gamble because he's been loudly scumreading me all game.

Interesting.  So I guess I was doctored(?) N1?

And then what on N3?

I just need to read the mod qt after this is all done.  But at this point I am more hopeful for another day.  LaLight was super powerful scum (full ninja+), maybe just 2 super powerful scum?

I roleblocked Space N3, as I claimed.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 02:55:15 pm »
That, and I was heading in the direction of leading town to the realisation that something wasn't right about what Awaclus was claiming. If only they hadn't suddenly all jumped on the Space wagon while I was in the middle of trying to urge caution and get people to think things through instead of getting complacent the minute they think they've been presented with a story that fits.

Everything was right about what I was claiming. Weren't you just trying to get me lynched to get rid of an Anaander?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 02:52:29 pm »
so...we might just have 2 total scum and 1 orange Anaaner, 1 purple Anaander?

hopefully?

That would make sense. 2 of these cult factions is pretty bad for town.

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Isn't the fact that you can't play other terminals proof of how bad it is?

TIL a cheaper Hunting Grounds with an extra benefit added on top is bad.

The trashing isn't necessarily a benefit. With Pooka you often have to choose between:

1. Getting it early, thus drawing all your terminals dead and running out of fuel when your engine is still in high gear
2. Getting it later on, thus forcing yourself to keep junk in your deck but then making it difficult to connect with the junk when you're actually using it.

You don't have to choose between those unless you overterminal yourself in the early game.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 01:44:25 pm »
because, based on the time that UoS spent at L-1, I am 100% confident they are scum.

But we are not because we can't know if you're town or not.

Yeah, that is true.  It is, you know, mylo.  At some point town has to make a decision.  Take your time, fine.

At this point you can know beyond any doubt that AT LEAST one of myself or UoS is scum.  We could both be scum, you still don't know.  It comes down to probabilities and reads at this point.

What are the odds that you think I am scum vs UoS?  I am obviously 100% that UoS is scum.  I would also argue that the evidence should point the rest of town to see at least a 70-30 odds that UoS is scum over me.  But maybe that is confirmation bias.

What do you say?  What are the odds that I am scum or UoS is scum?  50-50?  90-10?

That's a difficult decision to make, which is why I'd rather make it tomorrow and make the easier decision of lynching Space today.

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Isn't the fact that you can't play other terminals proof of how bad it is?

TIL a cheaper Hunting Grounds with an extra benefit added on top is bad.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 01:38:50 pm »
I actually think UoS's most likely partner is Awaclus, because to me the whole Green-Anaander thing doesn't fit with Mail-mi's claim, and I don't think he had much reason to lie about it to town once he was desperate enough to claim his real role rather than using his fake-claim:

I am Anaaner Mianaai. I tried to recruit hypercube on N1. Everything that she said about my role is true--I win with town, and I must also be the only Anaander Mianaai left alive to win. From the wording in my PM, it seems like the other Anaander Mianaai does not win with town.

Also btw the other anaander mianaai is probably town. I was just saying that to try to get y'all to kill her.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 01:37:03 pm »
because, based on the time that UoS spent at L-1, I am 100% confident they are scum.

But we are not because we can't know if you're town or not.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 01:28:55 pm »
And now its messing with me...

which is why, when you don't trust your reads, trust your results

Which are consistent with what UoS is claiming. If you're town, why are you trying to manipulate WCD into lynching UoS over Space?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 01:10:15 pm »
For how much you claim that you're fine with lynching Space, the more you post, the more it's looking like you aren't really.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 01:00:56 pm »
Basically the case on me for being scum is that I did a ton of anti-scum things throughout the game to build a strong town read by everyone to try to hopefully win at lylo.

You are saying, as scum.....
I saved a town vigilante.
I redirected my D4 case on town!UoS to my partner Space where the decision came to either lynch space or no lynch.

I guess those are the only big things.

Or I could be trying to lynch my partner UoS. Which if that is the case then, sure, yeah. Call me scum. It is starting to get absurd

Awaclus, review this. 

Do you agree with my assessment?

1) We have already established that it's completely reasonable for scum to save a town vigilante for town cred.
2) You did that and then you suddenly hammered ash out of nowhere, leading Space to not getting lynched.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 12:57:46 pm »
I just really think that we need to trust WCD's result.  I will lynch Space if they are put at L-1, but I think it is the wrong choice.

I trust WCD's result, but it's consistent with a town!UoS narrative as well as a scum!UoS narrative.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 12:46:52 pm »
I am cool with Space, too.  As is Joth, I think.

Are we ready for this to go down?

I am ready for a UoS lynch.

Not for a Space lynch?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 12:37:55 pm »
Actually Vote: Space

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 12:37:12 pm »
From the time they were L-1 (briefly) with no hammer to this entire time at L-2, I am 100% confident they are scum

I'm not 100% confident you're town.

Awa, how do you feel about Space?

They're my favorite lynch candidate for today.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 11:59:50 am »
From the time they were L-1 (briefly) with no hammer to this entire time at L-2, I am 100% confident they are scum

I'm not 100% confident you're town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 5)
« on: Today at 11:58:11 am »
E, what does inventor mean in the doc/doc/inventor/drugger list mean?

It means drugger.

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I think Pizza is pretty accurately rated. It's basically an expensive Herald, which is fine because sometimes you pay $5 for a Herald even if the overpay doesn't help you.

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A 32.3pp difference between Farming Village 43.5pp difference between Walled Village and Wandering Minstrel is absolutely ridiculous.

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