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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Taking Notes - Against the Rules?
« on: December 18, 2018, 10:58:26 am »
What about taking notes or using counters to indicate things regarding tracking, like how many actions, coins, or buys remain? For someone who is bad at math or has memory issues it seems like it would be cheating to not let them do this, unless you want to supervise everyone else's turns. (Good luck with those KC-KC-Pawn turns)

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Poor House / Patron is kind of interesting.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Why Peasant Will Be On My Ban List
« on: November 08, 2018, 04:22:35 pm »
Will I likely lose for no reason at all other than a random arrangement of cards?

I mean, this is a good chunk of Dominion in general.

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Also I just noticed that Citadel doesn't have a Duration clause even though the set will have Duration cards. No worries about tracking issues this time around?

Citadel / Hireling is kind of crazy and probably has tracking issues.

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You can't buy the same project twice, right?

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Bonfire / Flagbearer is interesting.

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Before Priest, how many ways were there to generate $ during your buy phase? Was it just +$1 token on Crown/Plunder/Rocks?

Merchant?

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Scholar / University is good.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Interesting Card Design Challenges
« on: September 23, 2018, 05:09:56 am »
How about something that is difficult to buy, like it costs 2 Buys to buy one copy? It would have to come with an Heirloom like Pouch to make it viable, or I suppose you could gain it in other ways on boards without +Buy.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Most hated attacks?
« on: August 31, 2018, 11:04:44 am »
I understand the hate for Warriors killing other Warriors, that also happened to me in one of my first Adventures games. But it is thematically sensible and mechanically quite interesting as it makes you consider buying an extra Page lest one gets slaughtered as well as the downside of it (if you do e.g. not need a Warrior once you are in the Chamipon stage as there is better draw in the Kingdom).

Eh I don't play Dominion for theme.  I just wish it said "Trashes a card costing $3 or $4 other than a Warrior or Treasure Hunter" It's the worst when your opponent gets 2, or even just one extra mega Champion turn.  It's game over.
If you consider the payoff of Warriors killing of other Warriors as strong, simply buy an extra Page to either defend against that to achieve that lovely trick yourself. While there is luck involved in Warrior kills Warrior the way to hedge against that is cheap and not a matter of whoever hits $5 and gains a Mountebank/Cultist first most likely wins.

This whole Warrior thing is similar to other trashing Attacks like Knights against which you can also defend by gaining Knights. Knights are admittedly more interesting as the buy decision is far more difficult than with Page.

But it's not as simple as "buy another Page" -- sure, this helps you from having to go through the whole Traveller line again, but even if you do have a second Page, you likely won't have it at the same Warrior stage quite yet (unless you open Page/Page, I guess). You'll still have to go through another shuffle or two, while your opponent already has a Hero. Missing shuffles puts you at a big disadvantage.

Knights are different because the attacking Knight gets trashed, too. To me, they're just fodder for protecting other cards (Silver is similar). If the Warrior got trashed if it trashed another Warrior, then that would be an interesting card.

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Fool's Gold?

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Monastery + Ill-Gotten Gains

IGG is sometimes called a dysfunctional Silver because it gives $2 except it junks your deck -- except with Monastery in hand, you can trash that gained Copper immediately after using it.

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Topdecking the Overlord after using it as a Walled Village means you have used it as a cantrip. Either you are saving Overlord for a specific, very powerful combo (maybe as an attack card to promote your Urchin in the beginning) or the kingdom does just not contain very good $5 cards to mimick. I am not convinced that this is an interaction that is useful very often.

The point of Overlord is that it is versatile. Sometimes you need a village, or at least you think you will. If your hand is Overlord/Overlord/3 Coppers, and you use your first Overlord as a WV, and the second as some kind of Terminal Draw but you don't end up drawing any more actions, then this is worth it. Walled Village isn't the greatest village, but in this case you'll end up saving the Overlord for a turn where maybe you don't need a village (perhaps your starting hand has an actual Walled Village or something).

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Overlord + Walled Village

Topdeck the Overlord, and you don't even have to play it as a Walled Village next turn.

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Rules Questions / Re: Blocking Hexes
« on: February 24, 2018, 01:13:40 pm »
If everyone has a Champion out, might as well put the Hexes back into the box.

(unless of course Cursed Village or Leprechaun are also in the game)

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: How thematic are card names?
« on: January 24, 2018, 11:23:36 am »
Quarry is also used with the same effect in Puerto Rico.

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Black Market + Envious

Play those Golds and Silvers during BM and get full value -- even for your Buy phase.

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Ghost + Wine Merchant

In draw-your-deck engines, Ghost sometimes has the problem of not having any cards to set aside, because all of your Action cards are in play. Because the Night Phase happens after the Buy Phase, you can discard your Wine Merchants before Ghost does its thing.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: New German Promo 'Abbruch'
« on: December 09, 2017, 10:17:54 am »
Yeah, that might undermine attempts to naively search for a list of predetermined words.

What does undermint mean?

90% of the Mint/Mine jokes are like this: Very short posts, coming directly after and/or quoting a post that contains one of the words, having moderate respect. There are two or three subtypes of this, for example such as the one we see, where the quoter swaps which word is used. Or, also popular, such where "mine" is used as the regular word for "my stuff" in the original post, and then the "funny" post writes it capitalized and mentiones Treasures, Engines or a Dominion edition.

Even if I just removed all short posts which mention either card and come right after another post which mentions one of them, as long as I exclude, say, the rules question, puzzle and all Base- or Prosperity-specific threads, I feel there's a low chance of false positives. Nobody talks about Mine or Mint. Going into a case destinction to look for one of the ~3 types of these jokes should probably allow to also apply them to forums where a mention of Mine or Mint is not incredibly unlikely.

Point in case: My post is too long to be a punchline.

More accurately, 90-93% of the Mine/Mint jokes.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: How good is Fishing Village really?
« on: December 08, 2017, 11:37:05 am »
It's a great village. You don't draw your whole deck every game.

I seem to agree!:
So when you don't draw your deck, it's a great village.

I think my point here is that judging "how good is Fishing Village really?" based on scenarios that are somewhat rare (draw your deck engines while your deck is already entirely drawn) is disingenuous. Sure, does FV outlive its usefulness at some point? Yes, but so does every card except for payload. I can think of more times when I had two +3 Cards cards in my hand and a FV already in play than times when I was sad that I had too many Fishing Villages.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: How good is Fishing Village really?
« on: December 07, 2017, 07:02:47 pm »
It's a great village. You don't draw your whole deck every game.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Fiddler
« on: December 04, 2017, 02:23:56 pm »
Very cool in the presence of gainers, too.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Words in card names
« on: November 19, 2017, 12:24:10 am »
Fair enough. I was not familiar with that definition -- to me, the bank you were referring to had to mean the side of a river, not just any mass of earth. Hence the confusion.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Words in card names
« on: November 18, 2017, 08:22:02 pm »
Even if English speakers recognized in some way that the "bank" in "Mountebank" had something to do with banks, they also likely would have to assign some meaning to the "Mounte" part, which they do not. This is pretty much a rare word anyhow, so typical speakers of English are likely to not have any transparent morphological composition for it.
Hmmm? They're the dudes who mount a bank (to sell stuff from it). Mount like getting on top of and bank like a river bank.

In this case I think it's actually supposed to be the "bench" meaning of "bank" (which as far as I know is obsolete in English, if it ever existed), and these two meanings are distantly related to each other (as well as the financial bank), but their meanings are so far from each other that English speakers don't really think of them as being the same.
"Bench" and "bank as in river bank" have the same distant origin, so I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me and if so what about.

I am an English speaker and I personally have always thought "they mount a bank."

If you think they're mounting a river bank, that's fine, but that's still folk etymology since the borrowing from French / Italian is referring to a bench or raised platform, just like in the card artwork. The bench meaning of 'bank' is probably unavailable to English speakers at least currently -- the Oxford English Dictionary lists it as historical.
I don't think they're mounting a river bank, I think they're getting up on a little stage or something. But when I look at the word, I see "mount a bank," bank as in river bank, noting that that meaning of bank doesn't require the bank to be by a river.

I am still not sure what argument I'm supposed to be having, so I'm going to go back to the start, as is my wont. You said: "Even if English speakers recognized in some way that the "bank" in "Mountebank" had something to do with banks, they also likely would have to assign some meaning to the "Mounte" part, which they do not." English speakers, anecdotal evidence me, assign "mount" to the "mounte" part. You said they don't assign "mounte" meaning; I am a counterexample.

OK, I wasn't clear -- I meant that if speakers, including you, want to interpret the word "mountebank" as composed of more than one morpheme, then there are just two options in current English for the "bank" part: either the financial institution or the side of the river. So, either this term means to get up on top of a building where they perform transactions of money, or on top of the side of a river. Neither interpretation has anything to do with the word mountebank, so it is difficult to say that this word is really polymorphemic.

You may recognize parts of words within this word, but especially since you mention that you "note that that meaning of bank doesn't require the bank to be by a river", this seems like you really don't think this word is made up of the word "bank" at all.

Another example: 'dismantle' -- you might recognize the part of the word 'mantle', the thing above a fireplace, but actually this word has nothing to do with fireplaces. It just means to take anything apart. For most English speakers this word has just one morpheme. Originally, of course, this word meant "to take off a cloak", since there is this other meaning of the word mantle that refers to clothing, but this word history is entirely irrelevant to how current English speakers store this word in their mind.

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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Words in card names
« on: November 18, 2017, 07:43:57 pm »
Even if English speakers recognized in some way that the "bank" in "Mountebank" had something to do with banks, they also likely would have to assign some meaning to the "Mounte" part, which they do not. This is pretty much a rare word anyhow, so typical speakers of English are likely to not have any transparent morphological composition for it.
Hmmm? They're the dudes who mount a bank (to sell stuff from it). Mount like getting on top of and bank like a river bank.

In this case I think it's actually supposed to be the "bench" meaning of "bank" (which as far as I know is obsolete in English, if it ever existed), and these two meanings are distantly related to each other (as well as the financial bank), but their meanings are so far from each other that English speakers don't really think of them as being the same.
"Bench" and "bank as in river bank" have the same distant origin, so I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me and if so what about.

I am an English speaker and I personally have always thought "they mount a bank."

If you think they're mounting a river bank, that's fine, but that's still folk etymology since the borrowing from French / Italian is referring to a bench or raised platform, just like in the card artwork. The bench meaning of 'bank' is probably unavailable to English speakers at least currently -- the Oxford English Dictionary lists it as historical.

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