Dominion Strategy Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - theory

Filter to certain boards:

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 154
1
Forum Games / Re: Awaclus and the Finnish Championship
« on: October 18, 2018, 10:28:27 pm »
Another message I've received, which I've edited into the top post:

Quote
Hello, Kylš's adminstrator Jitachi here.

First of all, I'm terribly sorry about the ruckus in finnish championship have spread in your forum too due message of Keturin. It is true Awaclus caused a lot of trouble in the championship with his playstyle and been juggling in grey area of rules, but honestly speaking I was wishing that would be kept inside our own forum without spreading further. However, due Awaclus have provoked Keturin, Keturin sent the messages and even asked testimony about game event from me I felt like I need to tell my own side. Like Awaclus said, he didn't send his /out request directly to me, but instead to GM of the game, Cameron: the reason I'm aware of content of the dropout message is she forwarded it to me for other reason. His full reason in pm to drop out was Awaclus lacked motivation to play in game; the game have caused sleeping problems and it was taking a lot of more time than he have wanted. In addition first day was so hard he felt like he was unable to give his best performance in game. It is true in Kylš you have right to give in any time you want, no matter the reason but because that was championship game that also meant his action made him disqualified because he didn't play game until the end. Ergo, in that regard he have been already punished about his actions because he is unable to win championship or give out victory points to other players which is the main idea of whole championship. Was his trick bit dirty? Definitely. But was it forbidden? Technically no, because no one in whole adminstration didn't realize the possibility of someone sacrificing his own chances to win championship to try help his team to win one game of mafia in hopeless setup which was basically unfair for bad guys with Masoner, roleblocker and town cop. Only thing I'm mad at him in role of game mod was not being truthful about reason to drop. Strategic reason is frowned and bit cheap, but because I had no idea he was planning it, I had no chances to discuss about it with him. I also hope Keturin and Awaclus stop discussing it outside official channels: what happened in Kylš doesn't involve in my opinion Dominion Strategy forums at all and Keturin's continued chase of Awaclus back in his own home forum is plainly unjustified.

Kind regards,
Johanna T./Jitachi
Mafia game forum Kylš

2
Forum Games / Awaclus and the Finnish Championship
« on: October 18, 2018, 10:18:45 am »
I received the following email from a participant in the Finnish mafia championship.  I am withholding judgment until I get sense from you all as to how you feel about the issue and what, if anything, should be done.

Quote
Hello,

Sorry for the possible inconvenience and thanks in advance. I don't represent the Finnish mafia forum Kylš but I would like to bring into your attention that the f.ds representative Awaclus cheated and intentionally outed from the Finnish Championship game on D2 to manipulate the game in scum teams favor. I participated in the game and I played town. He was assigned to team scum and he had chosen a strategy where he claimed to be town and referenced to game logs in this forum where had actually played town. This ruse is totally viable scum strategy in my opinion, but it didn't work and generally other players were suspicious about his alignment during his stay in the game. The game had 13 players and 3 of them were scum. Out of three scum players we were able to lynch one on d1. D2 masons claimed themselves which gave us two confirmed players on town side.

At this point Awaclus' disrespectful attitude and arrogant communication had cause a lot of uncivil behavior towards him, myself included. This is of course totally viable strategy as scum but not really respectful and doesn't represent good sportsmanship. I snapped at him and several other players also descended to his level and some players received warnings due their behavior. At the same time Awaclus chose to out from the game and admins started looking for a replacement. At this point many players were worried if Awaclus had dropped out from the game due other players being rude to him. I take responsibility for my own behavior because Awaclus was able to get under my skin. I genuinely felt bad about me losing my composure and I apologized during the game and personally to Awa after the game.

At the end of D2 we were able to lynch second scum from the game, only leaving the scum in Awaclus' slot. At the start of D3, the roleblocker claimed themself and told who they had targeted during N2. Because the night killed player wasn't one of the two confirmed masons, there was only one scum left in the game and we knew roleblocker is alive, it was a hard confirm for roleblocker and the player they had targeted. This gave us four (masons, roleblocker, roleblocker's target 1) confirmed players out of 9 alive players and only one scum to be searched for. At this point roleblocker said they will announce which player they will target N3 so we will have one more confirmed player at D4 if someone is killed next night. If roleblocker would've been night killed on N4 we'd still have 4 confirmed players out of 7. At this point I'm sure you realise that it was mathematically impossible for scum to win the game so Awaclus' replacement player conceded.

After the victory celebrations, scumchat was posted to the topic and from there we discovered that Awaclus made a 100% conscious decision to out from the game so he could manipulate in scum's favor. His team mates were also aware of his reasons to out from the game. In the post-game discussion he has again confirmed this choice and game mods have confirmed to Awaclus this behavior is not acceptable and he would've been penalized with a temporary participation ban if this came to game mods attention during the game. If scum team would've won because of Awaclus manipulated the game by outing, I'm sure no player would've acknowledged the win.

Now Awaclus has defended his decision to out from the game and said it's totally acceptable to intentionally collect a participation ban if it would help his team win the game. As he was just a guest player in Kylš, this doesn't bother him at all since he probably wouldn't have participated in a another game in the future. I want to press that this was done as an official ambassador of f.ds in a Championship Game.

Your mafia rules and civility pledge clearly state in two different sections that players should not officially out from the game for manipulation reasons.

"Please do not use this (outing) as a manipulation technique."

"-- Every game requires participation. Do not sign up for games that you are unwilling to play. /Outing has become increasingly problematic lately. It's an action that should be highly, highly frowned upon--an exception, rather than something that happens at least twice in every game. Finding replacements is tough on the mods, the other players, and the replacements themselves."

At the Kylš Forum, Awaclus is saying that these rules only prohibit officially outing from the game. I would like to have your opinion on this.

And this subsequent email:

Quote
Hello, Kylš's adminstrator Jitachi here.

First of all, I'm terribly sorry about the ruckus in finnish championship have spread in your forum too due message of Keturin. It is true Awaclus caused a lot of trouble in the championship with his playstyle and been juggling in grey area of rules, but honestly speaking I was wishing that would be kept inside our own forum without spreading further. However, due Awaclus have provoked Keturin, Keturin sent the messages and even asked testimony about game event from me I felt like I need to tell my own side. Like Awaclus said, he didn't send his /out request directly to me, but instead to GM of the game, Cameron: the reason I'm aware of content of the dropout message is she forwarded it to me for other reason. His full reason in pm to drop out was Awaclus lacked motivation to play in game; the game have caused sleeping problems and it was taking a lot of more time than he have wanted. In addition first day was so hard he felt like he was unable to give his best performance in game. It is true in Kylš you have right to give in any time you want, no matter the reason but because that was championship game that also meant his action made him disqualified because he didn't play game until the end. Ergo, in that regard he have been already punished about his actions because he is unable to win championship or give out victory points to other players which is the main idea of whole championship. Was his trick bit dirty? Definitely. But was it forbidden? Technically no, because no one in whole adminstration didn't realize the possibility of someone sacrificing his own chances to win championship to try help his team to win one game of mafia in hopeless setup which was basically unfair for bad guys with Masoner, roleblocker and town cop. Only thing I'm mad at him in role of game mod was not being truthful about reason to drop. Strategic reason is frowned and bit cheap, but because I had no idea he was planning it, I had no chances to discuss about it with him. I also hope Keturin and Awaclus stop discussing it outside official channels: what happened in Kylš doesn't involve in my opinion Dominion Strategy forums at all and Keturin's continued chase of Awaclus back in his own home forum is plainly unjustified.

Kind regards,
Johanna T./Jitachi
Mafia game forum Kylš

3
Forum Games / Re: Should this subforum be visible to guests?
« on: August 25, 2018, 11:05:09 am »
I too can not change the number of the day or any of my posts really; this is quite inconvenient

I fixed this.  Let me know if there's other bugs.

4
Forum Games / Re: Should this subforum be visible to guests?
« on: August 23, 2018, 11:59:02 am »
Did that fix it?

5
Forum Games / MOVED: Post Your Picture!!
« on: August 21, 2018, 01:20:03 pm »

6
Forum Games / Re: Should this subforum be visible to guests?
« on: August 21, 2018, 01:18:44 pm »
I will make this forum and the game threads public, and I will create a separate forum for Post Your Picture and make it accessible to members only.  Thanks for your feedback.

7
Forum Games / Re: Should this subforum be visible to guests?
« on: August 20, 2018, 07:05:24 pm »
I am all for democracy.  But before I change the settings, the reason the forum was originally private is, I think, to allow people to be more frank and open in playing games without fear of it being public.

So, three questions:

1 - are there things that people posted with an expectation of privacy that I'd be violating now if I made it all public?

2 - what benefit are we aiming for, given that you still will need to register an account to post and play?

3 - would your purposes be served if I created a wrapper public forum that people could chat in, but kept this as the subforum of that?  Or would that be too complicated?

I don't actually care one way or the other, just wanted to make sure we thought through everything.

8
Dominion Articles / Re: Gear
« on: August 18, 2018, 08:42:23 pm »
I immediately thought of the comparison to Haven, rather than Moat.  How does it compare to that - what makes Gear so much more powerful despite Haven being a cantrip?

11
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Being sneaky
« on: April 14, 2018, 07:54:27 pm »
I think the distinction is easier.  You have an obligation to not affirmatively mislead others, but you do not have an obligation to affirmatively inform others of information you know that they would also want to know.

So:

* Counting piles silently in your head and not providing the count is fine, but if asked, responding truthfully with the count is required
* Playing quickly with the intent of concealing your actions is not fine, but you do not have to announce your updated score when you buy a Province

12
Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas
« on: February 21, 2018, 08:42:54 pm »
Outhouse:

Take an extra turn after this one, and you only draw 3 cards for your next hand.
---------
While this is in play, when another player plays an Attack card, it doesn't affect you.

13
General Discussion / MOVED: Fire Emblem Heros
« on: February 12, 2018, 02:46:56 pm »

14
I'm not disallowing anything.  jsh's "article" was closed because it was in the wrong section.  This one was not because it doesn't break any rules.

15
Did I miss some new forum rule by which only nonsense threads may be started from now on?

I wouldn't mind if they were at least funny.  These are hardly distinguishable from actual bad content.  But at least this one is not in Articles.

16
Dominion Articles / Re: The Worst Card in Dominion #1
« on: February 09, 2018, 01:28:14 am »
Not sure satire is appropriate.

17
Dominion League / Season 26 - Standings
« on: February 08, 2018, 10:55:45 pm »

18
Other Games / Re: Dominion clones
« on: February 08, 2018, 08:33:49 pm »
Sirlin is a terrible person.  And sure, judge the person not his works, but his games are non grata because the reason he is a terrible person is because of his terrible actions involving his games.  If Hannibal Lecter's board game existed solely because of his cannibalism, I wouldn't play it even if it was the most finely-designed deckbuilder of all time, because I would be encouraging and subsidizing terrible behavior.

But they also happen to be terrible games, though, which makes it all much easier.  They fall into that particularly pernicious modern cluster of games designed by people who are excellent at marketing but not excellent at design.  See, e.g., Secret Hitler.

19
Tournaments and Events / Upcoming Dominion Online Matches Calendar
« on: February 07, 2018, 03:07:14 pm »
This is a calendar for upcoming announced matches on Dominion Online in tournaments organized on this forum, including the Dominion League and the Dominion World Cup. The default time zone is UTC. If you use Google Calendar, you can add it to your own by clicking the plus sign in the lower-right corner.

To add your own games to this calendar, fill out this form. If you have any issues, please contact samath.






20
Other Games / Re: Breath of the Wild
« on: January 30, 2018, 12:45:54 pm »
Incidentally I had never played a Zelda game previously, and loved BotW.  I love Kakariko Village.  I would totally live there.

21
Other Games / Re: Breath of the Wild
« on: January 30, 2018, 12:43:23 pm »
Zelda: "Link... The Blood Moon rises once again... Please be careful ... Link..."

Me: skip skip skip skip

22
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Right way to play when you canít win?
« on: January 29, 2018, 11:12:11 am »
There's no good answer to this question, in large part because there's often a difference between playing for first and playing for second.  The best thing you can do is play in a way that other players at least can reasonably anticipate.  If you buy the last Province and end the game, even though you couldn't win and the next player in turn order could have won with that Province, that's not your fault.  But you shouldn't be doing things like passing a Platinum through Masquerade to end the game faster.

23
Dominion Articles / Re: Underrated Cards in 2018
« on: January 25, 2018, 11:41:37 pm »
I forget who it was, but there was definitely an old-school player who said that Bishop open was usually wrong, and it was better to pick it up a few turns after the opening. I still think that's correct.

Bishop is only kind of for the trashing. You really want it more for the VP. It turns out VP chips are still really good. I don't know if I'd say it's underrated though.
I remember very vividly getting beat down by DG's King's Court-Pawn deck on a board with no other trashing, because I was foolish enough to open Bishop to let him slim into his engine.

25
Dominion General Discussion / Re: How thematic are card names?
« on: January 24, 2018, 05:14:37 pm »
Torturer is surely the most thematically appropriate Dominion card, for the simple reason that it genuinely evokes that theme within the player itself and not just his deck :)

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 154

Page created in 0.147 seconds with 18 queries.