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Title: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: loppo on April 18, 2013, 05:18:16 am
just copied from getsatisfaction: https://getsatisfaction.com/goko/topics/system_update_4_17_13

System Update 4/17/13 Edit Subject I'd like to try to get back to posting what's been updated. Here's what's just been updated online.

Dominion Cards
* Develop: Now shows gained card(s) face-up when possessed
* Grand Market: Fix for "Play All Treasures" button when this is in the supply
* Loan: Dragging is no longer required, as buttons allow for discarding/trashing
* Mint: AI will avoid playing it if it would mint a treasure it doesn't want
* Noble Brigand: Improved game log
* Secret Chamber: Forbid it from being played twice directly in a row, reacting against the same event

This last one is not in the rulebook, but Donald X has approved it for our use online. It streamlines the user interface by eliminating a click, lessens some newbie confusion, and prevents stalling by malicious opponents. Note that this doesn't prevent you from revealing a Secret Chamber to get a Moat into your hand, revealing the Moat, and then revealing the Secret Chamber again to top-deck it.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: theory on April 18, 2013, 09:54:50 am
I think that Secret Chamber fix is nice.  It also stops a tiny bit of info leakage I imagine (since it is now indistinguishable whether you have no Secret Chamber in hand or whether you are not allowed to use it).
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: markusin on April 18, 2013, 12:21:10 pm
Can you elaborate on the Grand Market Fix? Does this mean If I have 2 golds and a copper, that it won't play my copper if I press "Play All Treasures? What if it's a hand like Silver/Fool's Gold/Fool's Gold/Copper? I ask about Fool's Gold in particular here because, unlike with cards like Royal Seal and Talisman, Goko Dominion always plays FG automatically with the play all treasures option.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: LastFootnote on April 18, 2013, 12:37:26 pm
Can you elaborate on the Grand Market Fix? Does this mean If I have 2 golds and a copper, that it won't play my copper if I press "Play All Treasures? What if it's a hand like Silver/Fool's Gold/Fool's Gold/Copper? I ask about Fool's Gold in particular here because, unlike with cards like Royal Seal and Talisman, Goko Dominion always plays FG automatically with the play all treasures option.

Actually, it now plays Royal Seal automatically. Or did before this update, anyway. I'm guessing it still does.

All Fool's Gold does is make coins, so it makes sense to me that it's automatic.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: markusin on April 18, 2013, 12:43:34 pm
Can you elaborate on the Grand Market Fix? Does this mean If I have 2 golds and a copper, that it won't play my copper if I press "Play All Treasures? What if it's a hand like Silver/Fool's Gold/Fool's Gold/Copper? I ask about Fool's Gold in particular here because, unlike with cards like Royal Seal and Talisman, Goko Dominion always plays FG automatically with the play all treasures option.

Actually, it now plays Royal Seal automatically. Or did before this update, anyway. I'm guessing it still does.

All Fool's Gold does is make coins, so it makes sense to me that it's automatic.

Oh maybe I was thinking of Iso for Royal Seal. Yeah it's good that the treasure cards that only give coins are played automatically, Harem being another example.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: Watno on April 18, 2013, 01:13:31 pm
From ehat i gather from getsatisfaction, the previous behaviour was for example if you had 2 silver and 2 copper in hand, the play treasures button would only play the silvers, even though they wouldn't give you enough money for Grand market.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: carstimon on April 18, 2013, 01:14:56 pm
I think that Secret Chamber fix is nice.  It also stops a tiny bit of info leakage I imagine (since it is now indistinguishable whether you have no Secret Chamber in hand or whether you are not allowed to use it).
But now it does leak if I draw a moat with secret chamber, and decide to put secret chamber back and keep moat, but I don't want to use moat.  (before it could be I just kept secret chamber in hand) ;)
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: Watno on April 18, 2013, 01:15:59 pm
have you tested this? the update notes explicitely say it doesn't.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: michaeljb on April 18, 2013, 01:17:29 pm
Looks like the lobbies changed -- the silly II and III lobbies are still there, but now Council Room overflows into Counting House instead of into Council Room II.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: Mic Qsenoch on April 18, 2013, 03:10:14 pm
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it used to update your total coin available after a purchase if you had multiple buys and didn't use all your money? Because it doesn't do that anymore.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: michaeljb on April 18, 2013, 03:11:19 pm
It definitely used to.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: Watno on April 18, 2013, 03:33:50 pm
I already reported this and they said they'll fix it asap.
https://getsatisfaction.com/goko/topics/buys_and_coins_not_updating_after_buying_a_card
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: qmech on April 18, 2013, 03:55:00 pm
We also seem to have quit percentages now.  Apparently 1% of my games have crashed.

Edit: Ack, all my games are crashing now.  Not cool, Goko.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: ConMan on April 18, 2013, 07:08:42 pm
* Mint: AI will avoid playing it if it would mint a treasure it doesn't want
But nothing to say that the AI will avoid buying it on a 5/2 opening when there aren't any good sub-$3 buys.
Title: Re: System Update 4/17/13
Post by: Kirian on April 18, 2013, 11:48:54 pm
* Mint: AI will avoid playing it if it would mint a treasure it doesn't want
But nothing to say that the AI will avoid buying it on a 5/2 opening when there aren't any good sub-$3 buys.

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