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Title: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 04, 2012, 08:34:15 am
Topic intent: Every little random tidbit that doesn't deserve its own topic can be posted here.
Especially posts that don't warrant a lengthy discussion.

I'll start with: Tsunami Bomb - Take The Reigns would make a great song for Guitar Hero.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 08:36:11 am
Pfft, I'm still waiting for Muse to come to Rock Band. 

(Yes, I know Hysteria is part of the Europe Pack DLC, and the fact that it's one of the best songs in the game only makes me want Muse more.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 08:42:06 am
Are we running out of space then?

(I also think Guitar Hero songs would make an excellent thread on its own!)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 04, 2012, 08:54:23 am
I wish I could find a job where I get paid to manipulate Excel tables. I love playing around with Excel formulas and tweaking the data to do amazing things.

Someday, I'd like to dissect one of those Hero Lab Excel spreadsheets that are used to make D&D characters and just marvel at how intricate the spreadsheet is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 04, 2012, 08:55:12 am
Are we running out of space then?

(I also think Guitar Hero songs would make an excellent thread on its own!)
Not running out of space, but often during a day I have these random useless thoughts and I thought I could just shamelessly vent them here.  ;D

Another: Store names with bad grammar annoy me. I mean, in Dutch, we append the letter s without an apostrophe (if possible) to show property, like "Berts Winkel" to show that it's a shop (winkel) owned by Bert. But, suffering from over Anglicization perhaps, often it will turn into "Bert's Winkel". The thing that bothers me is not only that the owner didn't know the correct form, but also roughly 80% of the people think it's correct!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 04, 2012, 09:23:17 am
Another: Store names with bad grammar annoy me. I mean, in Dutch, we append the letter s without an apostrophe (if possible) to show property, like "Berts Winkel" to show that it's a shop (winkel) owned by Bert. But, suffering from over Anglicization perhaps, often it will turn into "Bert's Winkel". The thing that bothers me is not only that the owner didn't know the correct form, but also roughly 80% of the people think it's correct!

I can see how Anglicization can add apostrophes to your possessives. I just hope it doesn't go too far and that you suffer from too many apostrophes like America is going through right now.

I just want to carry a red pen and mark out every wrong apostrophe I see. Plural =/=> Apostrophe
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: bozzball on December 04, 2012, 09:25:40 am
Pfft, I'm still waiting for Muse to come to Rock Band. 

(Yes, I know Hysteria is part of the Europe Pack DLC, and the fact that it's one of the best songs in the game only makes me want Muse more.)

This.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 04, 2012, 09:42:27 am
I just want to carry a red pen and mark out every wrong apostrophe I see. Plural =/=> Apostrophe

Im sure the average person whom reads this does'nt even now what they could of done differently. Extraneous apostrophe's are just so prevalent; there everywhere. Ya'll should be more empathic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ipofanes on December 04, 2012, 09:45:31 am
A groaner from Germany:

(http://clients.supporting-elements.com/deppenapostroph/stehts.jpg)

A working translation for "steht's" here would be "all way's".
Also, to mutilate the wonderful composite "Onlineverkaufsprofi" is very un-German.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on December 04, 2012, 09:47:48 am
Pfft, I'm still waiting for Muse to come to Rock Band. 

Too bad they cancelled their concert that would take place in Stockholm tomorrow. :( At least I get a refund.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 09:54:15 am
I wish I could find a job where I get paid to manipulate Excel tables. I love playing around with Excel formulas and tweaking the data to do amazing things.

Someday, I'd like to dissect one of those Hero Lab Excel spreadsheets that are used to make D&D characters and just marvel at how intricate the spreadsheet is.

You know there are quite a few jobs that would love to have you ... :)

Finance, for instance.

(I share your love, but sadly the law doesn't really have that much opportunity for Excel wizardry.  That's what DS is for.)

(I think of how most people use Excel (or Photoshop) as like sitting in a Lamborghini and listening to the radio.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 09:59:22 am
Another: Store names with bad grammar annoy me. I mean, in Dutch, we append the letter s without an apostrophe (if possible) to show property, like "Berts Winkel" to show that it's a shop (winkel) owned by Bert. But, suffering from over Anglicization perhaps, often it will turn into "Bert's Winkel". The thing that bothers me is not only that the owner didn't know the correct form, but also roughly 80% of the people think it's correct!

To me, the worst is when people unnecessarily put things in "quotes" (http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/).  WTF are you doing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 10:00:47 am
Pfft, I'm still waiting for Muse to come to Rock Band. 

Too bad they cancelled their concert that would take place in Stockholm tomorrow. :( At least I get a refund.

Very sad!  My friend (in NYC) made a trip to Prague to see them in concert (also Garbage, later on).  I am considering attending their April concert at Madison Square Garden.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 04, 2012, 10:11:45 am
I feel like I'm an above average Photoshopper, if you take the entire world population as your measurement base.
But when you only consider people using Photoshop, I'm probably below average.

Man, statistics are fun, you can prove anything you want with them!

Also: I wonder how many different discussions we can cram in here. Bonus points for not quoting!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 04, 2012, 10:23:41 am
So, how about that local sports team? They sure did have an exciting sporting event with rival crosstown sports team some small number of time units ago. I especially enjoyed the part where one team achieved a sufficient number of points when compared to the number of points scored by the other team, who scored an insufficient number of points.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 04, 2012, 11:40:55 am
What are your absolute favourite pokemon?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 04, 2012, 11:45:47 am
(I think of how most people use Excel (or Photoshop) as like sitting in a Lamborghini and listening to the radio.)

Heh, fitting enough analogy.

Back when it was important for me at the time, I got myself certified as a Microsoft Office User Specialist for Word and Excel. I got the advanced certification, and I was shocked at how little of Excel the advanced test covered. Sure, it handled things like formatting, charts, and pivot tables, but it didn't even touch on VLOOKUP, which is probably my favorite formula (I'm sure SUMPRODUCT would be my favorite, but for some reason I don't always see that as a solution). I think it covered SUM and that was it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 04, 2012, 11:46:32 am
What are your absolute favourite pokemon?

Is that what these animated sig lines are for? I've been seeing them around, but I have no idea how this trend got started.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 04, 2012, 11:48:31 am
What are your absolute favourite pokemon?

Is that what these animated sig lines are for? I've been seeing them around, but I have no idea how this trend got started.

The ones in my sig aren't my favourite.

They began as identification for an upcoming game of Mafia.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 11:54:49 am
(I think of how most people use Excel (or Photoshop) as like sitting in a Lamborghini and listening to the radio.)

Heh, fitting enough analogy.

Back when it was important for me at the time, I got myself certified as a Microsoft Office User Specialist for Word and Excel. I got the advanced certification, and I was shocked at how little of Excel the advanced test covered. Sure, it handled things like formatting, charts, and pivot tables, but it didn't even touch on VLOOKUP, which is probably my favorite formula (I'm sure SUMPRODUCT would be my favorite, but for some reason I don't always see that as a solution). I think it covered SUM and that was it.

VLOOKUP and SUMIF I think are the two most key functions in terms of power multiplied by usefulness.  If you forced me to choose, I guess VLOOKUP is more essential than SUMIF, but I use SUMIF basically all the time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on December 04, 2012, 12:11:19 pm
Another: Store names with bad grammar annoy me. I mean, in Dutch, we append the letter s without an apostrophe (if possible) to show property, like "Berts Winkel" to show that it's a shop (winkel) owned by Bert. But, suffering from over Anglicization perhaps, often it will turn into "Bert's Winkel". The thing that bothers me is not only that the owner didn't know the correct form, but also roughly 80% of the people think it's correct!

There's a similar thing in Germany, we call it the "Deppenapostroph". However the Duden, which is the reference for what is correct in German language allows this in case it's necessary to separate the base of the word from the rest.
So one day I was walking towards the train station in my home town and saw a sign saying "ERO'S BAR". I was happy to see someone use this rule in the correct way and making clear this was not an Eros bar, but a bar owned by a guy called Ero.
Then I got passed the tree covering half the sign and noticed it was in fact JERO'S bar and thus wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 12:11:42 pm
Cheese
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 12:19:04 pm
Another: Store names with bad grammar annoy me. I mean, in Dutch, we append the letter s without an apostrophe (if possible) to show property, like "Berts Winkel" to show that it's a shop (winkel) owned by Bert. But, suffering from over Anglicization perhaps, often it will turn into "Bert's Winkel". The thing that bothers me is not only that the owner didn't know the correct form, but also roughly 80% of the people think it's correct!

There's a similar thing in Germany, we call it the "Deppenapostroph". However the Duden, which is the reference for what is correct in German language allows this in case it's necessary to separate the base of the word from the rest.
So one day I was walking towards the train station in my home town and saw a sign saying "ERO'S BAR". I was happy to see someone use this rule in the correct way and making clear this was not an Eros bar, but a bar owned by a guy called Ero.
Then I got passed the tree covering half the sign and noticed it was in fact JERO'S bar and thus wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denglisch
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 04, 2012, 12:41:41 pm
Im sure the average person whom reads this does'nt even now what they could of done differently. Extraneous apostrophe's are just so prevalent; there everywhere. Ya'll should be more empathic.

Sentences like this one should be allowed to be used for a self-defense justification for homicide.  "You honor, I was protecting myself and others.  If I hadn't shot him, my head would have exploded.  The shrapnel could have harmed or killed bystanders."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 04, 2012, 12:52:16 pm
Watching American real life shows or documentaries, I always wonder how much is scripted.

I mean, when I watch "Hardcore Pawn" (love the pun) which seems to be set in the Detroit area, there are always a lot of stereotypical African American women raising a scene: "This engagement ring isn't pure gold? You cheap-ass son of a ....." Now I tend to believe that it's not that far from the truth, but I think there's someone outside paying them to raise a scene, no?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 04, 2012, 01:41:06 pm
From this month in the Oatmeal calendar…

5 Reasons to Have Rabies Instead of Babies

You can't give babies to your friends, but you can give them rabies.
Rabies stops predators; babies do not.
Rabies makes a flight unbearable, but rabies makes it fun!
Babies make you slow; rabies makes you fast!
You can't take a baby to the movies, but you can take rabies!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 04, 2012, 01:46:39 pm
Watching American real life shows or documentaries, I always wonder how much is scripted.

I mean, when I watch "Hardcore Pawn" (love the pun) which seems to be set in the Detroit area, there are always a lot of stereotypical African American women raising a scene: "This engagement ring isn't pure gold? You cheap-ass son of a ....." Now I tend to believe that it's not that far from the truth, but I think there's someone outside paying them to raise a scene, no?

I always figured it was just them taking the most exciting 20 minutes out of a week of footage. THere'll be enough crazy people for TV if they wait long enough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 04, 2012, 02:04:08 pm
That too.

On the other hand, it's pretty annoying having trimmed your nails and having to use them to open something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Cuzz on December 04, 2012, 02:12:39 pm
Another: Store names with bad grammar annoy me. I mean, in Dutch, we append the letter s without an apostrophe (if possible) to show property, like "Berts Winkel" to show that it's a shop (winkel) owned by Bert. But, suffering from over Anglicization perhaps, often it will turn into "Bert's Winkel". The thing that bothers me is not only that the owner didn't know the correct form, but also roughly 80% of the people think it's correct!

To me, the worst is when people unnecessarily put things in "quotes" (http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/).  WTF are you doing?

Oh man I love that blog.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 04, 2012, 02:12:57 pm
On the other hand, it's pretty annoying having trimmed your nails and having to use them to open something.
Again another golden days. Of all of my own mind and in what sense has entirely abandoned the remarkable sense of the pain and that I have received, so that if poisoning may eat bread, very beautiful belly of the muscle. Me in a festival of our Lord one thousand six thirty and I made a calculation that everything is made of the whole of my years in time, the situation in the river thirty, and he went down with me, however, that the right to walk on in the mouth.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 04, 2012, 02:36:36 pm
Apropos of the recent age discussion, I've thought about making a list of "realizing you are old" moments.

For me, it was when I realized what people meant when they said that birthdays do not matter as much as they once did.

Or when you go to the doctor and can't just draw a line through all the "NO" boxes any more.

Or when you realize that professional athletes are younger than you (or worse, when an athlete younger than you is "over the hill").  Robert Griffin III was born in 1990 (!).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 04, 2012, 02:37:47 pm

The moment I knew I was old was when I saw a policeman and thought 'He looks far too young to be a policeman'
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 05, 2012, 03:03:16 am
For me it's becoming a father and going to bed around 9 am and setting an alarm for 11 am to feed him his evening/night bottle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on December 05, 2012, 11:53:12 am
For me it's becoming a father and going to bed around 9 am and setting an alarm for 11 am to feed him his evening/night bottle.

[Futurama Fry meme:]
not sure if he meant "pm"
[squint]
or his family has a really odd schedule


(I keep trying to make the meme, but quickmeme isn't saving my creation and I'm too lazy to find another meme-creating site.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 05, 2012, 01:53:11 pm
So I am going to the 4/16 Muse concert at Madison Square Garden.  You should obviously come as well, Lekkit, to make up for your cancelled Stockholm show :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 05, 2012, 02:02:28 pm
One of the BBSes I frequented in the 90s had a forum called "Non Sequitur." You literally had to post something that had nothing to do with the previous posts. Of course, it had to loop back around, but the forum had a post limit of 150, so as long as you didn't post the same thing in 150 posts (which translated to about 30 minutes to 4 hours), you were good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 05, 2012, 06:49:30 pm
One of the BBSes I frequented in the 90s had a forum called "Non Sequitur." You literally had to post something that had nothing to do with the previous posts.

This is also a good party game.  As is Mafia, of course.  Which gets me wondering: are there pockets of the internet where people while away their time playing Psychologist?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ipofanes on December 06, 2012, 04:57:18 am
Another: Store names with bad grammar annoy me. I mean, in Dutch, we append the letter s without an apostrophe (if possible) to show property, like "Berts Winkel" to show that it's a shop (winkel) owned by Bert. But, suffering from over Anglicization perhaps, often it will turn into "Bert's Winkel". The thing that bothers me is not only that the owner didn't know the correct form, but also roughly 80% of the people think it's correct!

To me, the worst is when people unnecessarily put things in "quotes" (http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/).  WTF are you doing?

"It is a particular German habit to deny a world history event by putting it between quotes. France has not emerged "victorious" from this war [WW1], but victorious and Germany has lost."
-- Kurt Tucholsky, in a critical appraisal of a schoolbook published 1925
http://www.textlog.de/tucholsky-kinder-republik.html

That said, I would have put "Bert's winkel" in quotes too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 06, 2012, 05:02:55 am
There was a fresh layer of snow this morning as I spent several minutes wiping it off my car.

Still, a magical feeling.

Snow in spare time (don't have to drive): Yay!
Snow during work time: Boo!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 06, 2012, 08:06:49 am
I've never had persimmons. We bought some the other day, but we haven't tore into them yet. I have no idea the best way to eat them. My wife seems certain, but she's been too busy to prepare them.

So I stare at them on the countertop, looking like little weird tomatoes. Soon, my little persimmons, soon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 06, 2012, 08:18:48 am
I've never had persimmons. We bought some the other day, but we haven't tore into them yet. I have no idea the best way to eat them. My wife seems certain, but she's been too busy to prepare them.

So I stare at them on the countertop, looking like little weird tomatoes. Soon, my little persimmons, soon.
This is about the most difficult to eat Dutch delicacy I can think of:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG/220px-Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG)

When you press down on the top, the cream in the middle comes out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on December 06, 2012, 11:43:43 am
(I think of how most people use Excel (or Photoshop) as like sitting in a Lamborghini and listening to the radio.)

Heh, fitting enough analogy.

Back when it was important for me at the time, I got myself certified as a Microsoft Office User Specialist for Word and Excel. I got the advanced certification, and I was shocked at how little of Excel the advanced test covered. Sure, it handled things like formatting, charts, and pivot tables, but it didn't even touch on VLOOKUP, which is probably my favorite formula (I'm sure SUMPRODUCT would be my favorite, but for some reason I don't always see that as a solution). I think it covered SUM and that was it.

VLOOKUP and SUMIF I think are the two most key functions in terms of power multiplied by usefulness.  If you forced me to choose, I guess VLOOKUP is more essential than SUMIF, but I use SUMIF basically all the time.
SUMIF is great.  And VLOOKUP.  But frankly, most situations now where I could use VLOOKUP it's quick just to make a workaround, though when I was doing actuarial work, that was definitely not the case.  SUMIF is crucial.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 06, 2012, 11:50:16 am
(I think of how most people use Excel (or Photoshop) as like sitting in a Lamborghini and listening to the radio.)

Heh, fitting enough analogy.

Back when it was important for me at the time, I got myself certified as a Microsoft Office User Specialist for Word and Excel. I got the advanced certification, and I was shocked at how little of Excel the advanced test covered. Sure, it handled things like formatting, charts, and pivot tables, but it didn't even touch on VLOOKUP, which is probably my favorite formula (I'm sure SUMPRODUCT would be my favorite, but for some reason I don't always see that as a solution). I think it covered SUM and that was it.

VLOOKUP and SUMIF I think are the two most key functions in terms of power multiplied by usefulness.  If you forced me to choose, I guess VLOOKUP is more essential than SUMIF, but I use SUMIF basically all the time.
SUMIF is great.  And VLOOKUP.  But frankly, most situations now where I could use VLOOKUP it's quick just to make a workaround, though when I was doing actuarial work, that was definitely not the case.  SUMIF is crucial.

Come for the board game strategy, stay for the Excel function rankings.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 06, 2012, 12:14:58 pm
Maybe we can have Qvist compile a list of the best three-argument Excel functions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 06, 2012, 12:19:30 pm
COUNT.

It's simple, easy to use an does exactly what it says.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ipofanes on December 06, 2012, 12:33:50 pm
COUNT.

It's simple, easy to use an does exactly what it says.

It can do nine different things though, depending on the two parameters you pass.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 06, 2012, 12:50:52 pm
COUNT.

It's simple, easy to use an does exactly what it says.
CHOCULA.

It's plain, so easy to use a child can do it, and it is what is says.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on December 06, 2012, 12:51:25 pm
I've never had persimmons. We bought some the other day, but we haven't tore into them yet. I have no idea the best way to eat them. My wife seems certain, but she's been too busy to prepare them.

So I stare at them on the countertop, looking like little weird tomatoes. Soon, my little persimmons, soon.
This is about the most difficult to eat Dutch delicacy I can think of:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG/220px-Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG)

When you press down on the top, the cream in the middle comes out.

Looks like a clear case of "Eat with your fingers" to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 06, 2012, 12:59:32 pm
Apropos of the recent age discussion, I've thought about making a list of "realizing you are old" moments.

For me, it was when I realized what people meant when they said that birthdays do not matter as much as they once did.

Or when you go to the doctor and can't just draw a line through all the "NO" boxes any more.

Or when you realize that professional athletes are younger than you (or worse, when an athlete younger than you is "over the hill").  Robert Griffin III was born in 1990 (!).
For me, it was two things:

In the late 80's, I was in a record store and heard a young woman of about 16 say to her friend "Did you know that Paul McCartney had a band before Wings?".

One day in 1995, I realized that the kids that were born in the year I graduated from HS (1977) were graduating from HS.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on December 06, 2012, 03:04:50 pm
I've never had persimmons. We bought some the other day, but we haven't tore into them yet. I have no idea the best way to eat them. My wife seems certain, but she's been too busy to prepare them.

So I stare at them on the countertop, looking like little weird tomatoes. Soon, my little persimmons, soon.
This is about the most difficult to eat Dutch delicacy I can think of:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG/220px-Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG)

When you press down on the top, the cream in the middle comes out.

Looks like a clear case of "Eat with your fingers" to me.

No joke, I would just use my mouth for that like the barbarian I am.  No utensils, even the natural ones (phalanges) with which I was born.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on December 06, 2012, 03:05:27 pm
COUNT.

It's simple, easy to use an does exactly what it says.
CHOCULA.

It's plain, so easy to use a child can do it, and it is what is says.

LOLed so hard!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 06, 2012, 03:28:51 pm
Two atoms are walking down the street.

One of them says, "Crap, I just lost an electron."

The second atom asks, "Are you sure?"

The first atom replies, "Dude, if you're not going to help look, then get out of my face."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on December 06, 2012, 04:54:12 pm
Two atoms are walking down the street.

One of them says, "Crap, I just lost an electron."

The second atom asks, "Are you sure?"

The first atom replies, "Dude, if you're not going to help look, then get out of my face."

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4584.msg103229#msg103229
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 06, 2012, 05:00:08 pm
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4584.msg103229#msg103229

Is the date that thread died an anti-joke?  :-\
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on December 06, 2012, 06:37:08 pm
I've never had persimmons. We bought some the other day, but we haven't tore into them yet. I have no idea the best way to eat them. My wife seems certain, but she's been too busy to prepare them.

So I stare at them on the countertop, looking like little weird tomatoes. Soon, my little persimmons, soon.
This is about the most difficult to eat Dutch delicacy I can think of:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG/220px-Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG)

When you press down on the top, the cream in the middle comes out.

Looks like a clear case of "Eat with your fingers" to me.
If it's anything like the vanilla slice* it resembles, then using hands is the way to go but you're still going to have the same problem, but you can then rotate it to get at the filling that's come out.

* There seem to be two main kinds of vanilla slice in Australia - the "real" kind, which features a stiff, yellow vanilla custard in between two pieces of puff pastry, topped with passionfruit icing (or occasionally something heretical like the pink icing in the photo), and the "French vanilla slice", also known as a Napoleon, or a mille-feuille, which usually has an extra middle layer of pastry, a whiter, creamier custard, and is topped with either icing sugar or a kind of streaky mix of white and chocolate icings.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 06, 2012, 06:44:31 pm
Dave Brubeck died.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on December 07, 2012, 04:49:45 am
I've never had persimmons. We bought some the other day, but we haven't tore into them yet. I have no idea the best way to eat them. My wife seems certain, but she's been too busy to prepare them.

So I stare at them on the countertop, looking like little weird tomatoes. Soon, my little persimmons, soon.
This is about the most difficult to eat Dutch delicacy I can think of:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG/220px-Tom_Pouce_is_difficult_to_eat.JPG)

When you press down on the top, the cream in the middle comes out.

Looks like a clear case of "Eat with your fingers" to me.
If it's anything like the vanilla slice* it resembles, then using hands is the way to go but you're still going to have the same problem, but you can then rotate it to get at the filling that's come out.

* There seem to be two main kinds of vanilla slice in Australia - the "real" kind, which features a stiff, yellow vanilla custard in between two pieces of puff pastry, topped with passionfruit icing (or occasionally something heretical like the pink icing in the photo), and the "French vanilla slice", also known as a Napoleon, or a mille-feuille, which usually has an extra middle layer of pastry, a whiter, creamier custard, and is topped with either icing sugar or a kind of streaky mix of white and chocolate icings.
I think it's best to remove the top and eat the cream first.

Otherwise, the cream will still come out as you bite down.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 07, 2012, 12:39:51 pm
I'm the scatman

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

(More Scatting)

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you
As a matter of fact
Don't let nothing hold you back
If the scatman can do it
So can you
Everybody says that the scatman stutters
But doesn't ever stutters when he sings
But what you don't know
I'm gonna tell you right now
That the stutter and the scat is the same thing
Yo, I'm the scat man
Where's the scat man? I'm the scat man.

Why should we be pleasing any politician heathens who would
Try to change the seasons if they could
The state of the condition
Insults my institution
And it only makes me crazy and my heart like wood

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you
As a matter of fact
Don't let nothing hold you back
If the scatman can do it, brother
So can you, I'm the scat man.

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Everybody stutters one day or the other
So check out my message to you
As a matter of fact
Don't let nothing hold you back
If the scatman can do it
So can you

I hear you ask all about the meaning of scat
Well I'm the professor and all I can tell you
Is while you're still sleeping
The saints are still weeping
'Cause things you call dead haven't yet had the chance to be born
I'm the scatman


I'm the scatman

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo

Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

(More Scatting)

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you
As a matter of fact
Don't let nothing hold you back
If the scatman can do it
So can you

Everybody says that the scatman stutters
But doesn't ever stutters when he sings
But what you don't know
I'm gonna tell you right now
That the stutter and the scat is the same thing
Yo, I'm the scat man
Where's the scat man? I'm the scat man.

Why should we be pleasing any politician heathens who would
Try to change the seasons if they could
The state of the condition
Insults my institution
And it only makes me crazy and my heart like wood

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you
As a matter of fact
Don't let nothing hold you back
If the scatman can do it, brother
So can you, I'm the scat man.

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
Baba ba da bo
Bwi ba ba ba do

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Do bam do

Yeah! I'm the scatman.

(Scats)

Where's The Scatman?

(Scats)

I'm the scatman

Repeat after me
It's a scoobie oobie doobie scoobie doobie melody

I'm the Scatman.

Sing along with me
It's a scoobie oobie doobie scoobie doobie melody

Yeah!

I'm the scatman
I'm the scatman
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 07, 2012, 05:01:06 pm
Very well played, sir.

Let me guess: the lyric is by Scatman Crothers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 07, 2012, 07:31:38 pm
So I went to the opticians today and she told me "Good news! The Astigmatism in your left eye is getting better"
Thats not good news, I didn't even know I had one!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 07, 2012, 08:13:34 pm
So I went to the opticians today and she told me "Good news! The Astigmatism in your left eye is getting better"
Thats not good news, I didn't even know I had one!!

When I was young, my mother explained that she had to wear glasses because she had astigmatism. I wondered for years if blind people were blind because they had two stigmatisms.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on December 27, 2012, 02:08:31 am
(http://i.imgur.com/VVD8c.png)

"Only" around 1650 points to 50.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 27, 2012, 03:07:25 am
If you haven't read "Ready Player One," you really ought to.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on December 27, 2012, 05:36:29 am
If you haven't read "Ready Player One," you really ought to.

I read the free excerpt (first 38 pages). Although I feel some of it is lost on me, it was still interesting enough for me to want to get the full text sometime.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on January 05, 2013, 05:25:45 am
(http://i.imgur.com/VVD8c.png)

"Only" around 1650 points to 50.

I win

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1214/88311383.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 05, 2013, 07:24:34 am
Doesn't it say....to 50?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on January 05, 2013, 07:39:59 am
Yeah. My point is I am a higher level than Titandrake.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on January 05, 2013, 10:37:09 am
TINAS, come play mafia again.  We miss you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on January 05, 2013, 06:28:29 pm
But it takes so much of my life :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on January 05, 2013, 07:51:10 pm
But it takes so much of my life :(
Understood, and agreed with, AND we miss you.  I miss you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 05, 2013, 08:37:39 pm
I hate when I've just finished updating the Through the Ages spreadsheets and feel like I can Excel pretty hard but then I come here and theory and Kuildeous Excel harder than I can and I feel like I can't Excel very hard after all :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 06, 2013, 02:42:06 pm
Also I just tried to start an account on TwitchTV, and was disappointed to find that Tables had been taken as a username. First time that's happened, and hardly surprising, but was disappointed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on January 06, 2013, 04:10:34 pm
Also I just tried to start an account on TwitchTV, and was disappointed to find that Tables had been taken as a username. First time that's happened, and hardly surprising, but was disappointed.
It's actually really surprising to me that so common a word as 'Tables' hasn't ever been taken from you before.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 06, 2013, 04:28:05 pm
Well, most of this is because I haven't been using Tables as my account name for very long. For a long time, I was always IEatTables, it just got shortened recently because, well, Tables is nice and neat, IEatTables makes people start asking questions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 06, 2013, 04:40:36 pm
Eating tables is nothing to be ashamed about, i am partial to a bit of carpet munching myself
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on January 06, 2013, 06:08:48 pm
Eating tables is nothing to be ashamed about, i am partial to a bit of carpet munching myself

I guess off-color jokes count as Random Stuff.

I hate when I've just finished updating the Through the Ages spreadsheets and feel like I can Excel pretty hard but then I come here and theory and Kuildeous Excel harder than I can and I feel like I can't Excel very hard after all :(

Somehow I'd expect a guy named Tables to be pretty good at Excel.

Also, Bruce Willis is coming out with another Die Hard movie.  He's 65.  If they decide to do yet another one, I think he'll spend most of the movie at a computer... they should totally call it Excel Hard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on January 06, 2013, 06:25:09 pm
I hate when I've just finished updating the Through the Ages spreadsheets and feel like I can Excel pretty hard but then I come here and theory and Kuildeous Excel harder than I can and I feel like I can't Excel very hard after all :(

I was a total Excel noob until fairly recently.  Then, I wanted to do X, and it seemed like the only way to do X was some really stupid laborious way.  Turns out there is a function that will do X easily and efficiently.  Repeat.

Excel only needs to be learned through necessity.  If you don't need VLOOKUP, you don't need to know it exists.  The only quality you need is tremendous laziness, in that you would rather Google a problem than brute-force a dumb solution.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 06, 2013, 06:34:44 pm
This is sooo true.
Excel is really powerful in the right hands.

There are people at work that think they are masters of excel because they can put in SUM and COUNT fucnctions, because they dont know about the other stuff they don't realise they only know a little!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on January 06, 2013, 08:31:04 pm
This is always the informative question for me: "What's a pivot table?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on January 06, 2013, 09:48:03 pm
This is always the informative question for me: "What's a pivot table?"

The correct answer is "Everything good and right with the world."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 07, 2013, 05:51:35 am
THis is so true. If it doesn't fit into a pivot table somewhere, I don't want to know
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 07, 2013, 07:39:14 am
I hate when I've just finished updating the Through the Ages spreadsheets and feel like I can Excel pretty hard but then I come here and theory and Kuildeous Excel harder than I can and I feel like I can't Excel very hard after all :(

I was a total Excel noob until fairly recently.  Then, I wanted to do X, and it seemed like the only way to do X was some really stupid laborious way.  Turns out there is a function that will do X easily and efficiently.  Repeat.

Excel only needs to be learned through necessity.  If you don't need VLOOKUP, you don't need to know it exists.  The only quality you need is tremendous laziness, in that you would rather Google a problem than brute-force a dumb solution.

Incidentally, I do know VLOOKUP, and I've actually used HLOOKUP on occasion. SUMIF is totally new to me mind you.
And pivot tables. I know roughly how to do them, could probably work it out again given a few minutes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on January 07, 2013, 01:38:11 pm
I hate when I've just finished updating the Through the Ages spreadsheets and feel like I can Excel pretty hard but then I come here and theory and Kuildeous Excel harder than I can and I feel like I can't Excel very hard after all :(

I was a total Excel noob until fairly recently.  Then, I wanted to do X, and it seemed like the only way to do X was some really stupid laborious way.  Turns out there is a function that will do X easily and efficiently.  Repeat.

Excel only needs to be learned through necessity.  If you don't need VLOOKUP, you don't need to know it exists.  The only quality you need is tremendous laziness, in that you would rather Google a problem than brute-force a dumb solution.

Incidentally, I do know VLOOKUP, and I've actually used HLOOKUP on occasion. SUMIF is totally new to me mind you.
And pivot tables. I know roughly how to do them, could probably work it out again given a few minutes.

Then you are hardly a noob :)

SUMIF is easy and does exactly what you'd think it'd do.  It came in in 2007 along with IFERROR, two great functions.

I think Above-Competent would be mastery of pivot tables, FREQUENCY(), one-way/two-way data tables, VLOOKUP/HLOOKUP, and dynamic named ranges.  But like I said, if you don't need to use those (for instance I haven't learned how to use one-way data tables because I haven't needed to), then you don't need to learn them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 07, 2013, 03:51:20 pm
Ah, IFERROR's been useful in setting up stuff in a few games.
FREQUENCY() sounds pretty useful. I have no idea what it does, but it's the kind of name that makes me go 'ooh'
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 08, 2013, 02:41:39 pm
I love IFERROR. Cleans up presentation like nobody’s business.

A useful way to learn the coolest Excel functions at the time that you need to know them is to go ask at http://www.experts-exchange.com/. There are some awe-inspiring experts there that can turn your spreadsheet into a three-ring circus.

Although, most of the time, you should be able to get away with Googling it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 08, 2013, 02:43:05 pm
I sometimes make up a card shuffler by assigning a random number to each card and then use RANK and VLOOKUP to pull out the first N cards.

I never told anyone this before, but I know this community won’t judge.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on January 08, 2013, 03:49:03 pm
I love IFERROR. Cleans up presentation like nobody’s business.

A useful way to learn the coolest Excel functions at the time that you need to know them is to go ask at http://www.experts-exchange.com/. There are some awe-inspiring experts there that can turn your spreadsheet into a three-ring circus.

Although, most of the time, you should be able to get away with Googling it.


Ah, ExpertsExchange.  Former owners of the funniest unintentionally risque domain name since the Mole Station Nursery.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 08, 2013, 04:01:23 pm
i used to be an admin for forums4games.net, till one day the owner decided he needed a shorter snappier name...so shortened it to F4G.net....true story!

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on January 08, 2013, 04:08:44 pm
I hate when I've just finished updating the Through the Ages spreadsheets and feel like I can Excel pretty hard but then I come here and theory and Kuildeous Excel harder than I can and I feel like I can't Excel very hard after all :(

I was a total Excel noob until fairly recently.  Then, I wanted to do X, and it seemed like the only way to do X was some really stupid laborious way.  Turns out there is a function that will do X easily and efficiently.  Repeat.

Excel only needs to be learned through necessity.  If you don't need VLOOKUP, you don't need to know it exists.  The only quality you need is tremendous laziness, in that you would rather Google a problem than brute-force a dumb solution.

Incidentally, I do know VLOOKUP, and I've actually used HLOOKUP on occasion. SUMIF is totally new to me mind you.
And pivot tables. I know roughly how to do them, could probably work it out again given a few minutes.

Man I just learned about SUMIF a few months ago... I was just starting to work on this task that would have required a huge amount of confusing macros and other manual calculations... and then I discovered SUMIF... turned a multi-day task into an hour.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on January 08, 2013, 04:22:16 pm
I love IFERROR. Cleans up presentation like nobody’s business.

A useful way to learn the coolest Excel functions at the time that you need to know them is to go ask at http://www.experts-exchange.com/. There are some awe-inspiring experts there that can turn your spreadsheet into a three-ring circus.

Although, most of the time, you should be able to get away with Googling it.


Ah, ExpertsExchange.  Former owners of the funniest unintentionally risque domain name since the Mole Station Nursery.

I still think Powergen Italia (a battery company, now defunct) is better.

(Then there's Pen Island, which is intentional, and has brilliant writing.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 13, 2013, 03:38:37 pm
Come on the Seahawks!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 13, 2013, 04:34:21 pm
I love IFERROR. Cleans up presentation like nobody’s business.

A useful way to learn the coolest Excel functions at the time that you need to know them is to go ask at http://www.experts-exchange.com/. There are some awe-inspiring experts there that can turn your spreadsheet into a three-ring circus.

Although, most of the time, you should be able to get away with Googling it.


Ah, ExpertsExchange.  Former owners of the funniest unintentionally risque domain name since the Mole Station Nursery.

Possibly less funny, but certainly a lot more alarming, is the now defunct (I think) Child's Express.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on January 17, 2013, 05:12:12 pm
Every time I see liopoil post something, I think "Huh. Now we have two palindrome bards."
Although I guess liopoil might not be a bard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on January 17, 2013, 05:17:17 pm
Every time I see liopoil post something, I think "Huh. Now we have two palindrome bards."
Although I guess liopoil might not be a bard.

Is it I? It IS I!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on January 17, 2013, 06:49:26 pm
Speaking of which, why is your name Drab Emordnilap? It's not a palindrome in itself so writing it backwards doesn't make a huge lot of sense to me...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on January 17, 2013, 10:47:20 pm
Well, you have to read the whole thing, including the title.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 17, 2013, 11:41:04 pm
Speaking of which, why is your name Drab Emordnilap? It's not a palindrome in itself so writing it backwards doesn't make a huge lot of sense to me...

The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob. It doesn't work!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on February 02, 2013, 05:37:42 am
How long until "loose" is officially redefined to include "verb - to fail to keep, preserve, or maintain"? It seems a huge majority of the English speaking population of the world already use it for this.

I mean, I can kind of understand if people create a new word that is shorter than the original out of laziness/character limits but... Jesus... There is absolutely no excuse for this bastardisation of our language.

[/rage]

I fully expect to have made spelling/grammatical errors in this post and for you guys to point them out now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on February 02, 2013, 05:39:27 am
My other language pet peeve is "I could care less".

EXCUSE ME YOU JUST SAID THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on February 02, 2013, 07:54:55 am
Hey, anyone like wrestling? Like WWE. Also, Tables, why is your name Tables? From where was that inspired?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on February 02, 2013, 10:47:38 am
My other language pet peeve is "I could care less".

EXCUSE ME YOU JUST SAID THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY!

Um, I'll just leave this here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6616.msg182030#msg182030
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on February 02, 2013, 10:49:51 am
Hey, anyone like wrestling? Like WWE. Also, Tables, why is your name Tables? From where was that inspired?

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 02, 2013, 01:46:27 pm
Hey, anyone like wrestling? Like WWE. Also, Tables, why is your name Tables? From where was that inspired?

So long story short, on a holiday to Germany while 11, my and my siblings thought it was hilarious to say nonsensical german phrases to the natives. A particular favourite was "Ich esse Tisch," german for "I eat tables". A few months later, I was creating an account for a new website (Runescape IIRC) and didn't want to use my old username (because it was even more terrible), so decided I Eat Tables was amusing enough to start using. Fast forward to when I was about 18, and I shortened it to just Tables because it's generally nicer, it was what people who knew me from online were calling me anyway, and it was a bit less of an embarrassing 11 year olds screenname.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 02, 2013, 04:46:49 pm
Hey, anyone like wrestling? Like WWE. Also, Tables, why is your name Tables? From where was that inspired?

Weirdly enough I watch loads of WWE even though I really shouldnt and don't like it much! I basically download it to watch as I fall asleep, it's good non complicated brain fodder.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 02, 2013, 04:50:12 pm
Went on a date today, went badly, so went to the pub and I still can't find THAT BLOODY DRINKING THREAD!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on February 02, 2013, 04:51:27 pm
Went on a date today, went badly, so went to the pub and I still can't find THAT BLOODY DRINKING THREAD!

You have to give bad date details.  Bad dates make the best stories.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 02, 2013, 04:52:32 pm
Unfortunately, bad date in this case also reads as 'dullest' date
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on February 02, 2013, 06:21:14 pm
Unfortunately, bad date in this case also reads as 'dullest' date

That's when you have to start messing with the other person.

"So...what do you like to do for fun?"
"Sharpen my toothpick collection naked while watching Teletubbies.  What about you?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 02, 2013, 06:36:45 pm
You mean like:

"I sit around pretending I am in the mafia with a group of people I don't know and talk about hypothetical cases that could come up within a cardset"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on February 02, 2013, 06:41:12 pm
You mean like:

"I sit around pretending I am in the mafia with a group of people I don't know and talk about hypothetical cases that could come up within a cardset"

I'm sorry.  The point is to freak them out.  Not draw them in and actually make it a productive date. 

I shall give you dating lessons.  Do not worry.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 02, 2013, 06:43:09 pm
The trouble for me, is meeting a girl who matches my high standards, who has low enough standards to go out with me!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 02, 2013, 06:48:34 pm
The trouble for me, is meeting a girl who matches my high standards, who has low enough standards to go out with me!

You need to lower your standards, then.  :p
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 02, 2013, 06:50:11 pm
The trouble for me, is meeting a girl who matches my high standards, who has low enough standards to go out with me!

You need to lower your standards, then.  :p

Well, I am having a little trouble finding a Nobel Prize winning supermodel round my way...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 02, 2013, 06:58:06 pm
I'm sorry.  The point is to freak them out.  Not draw them in and actually make it a productive date. 

I shall give you dating lessons.  Do not worry.
She's good at freaking people out.  and dating....but especially the first part...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 02, 2013, 07:00:13 pm
I feel like I should clarify here, the date was dull because the woman was extremely dull unfortunately, the actual mechanics of the date were good!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on February 02, 2013, 08:09:45 pm
I'm sorry.  The point is to freak them out.  Not draw them in and actually make it a productive date. 

I shall give you dating lessons.  Do not worry.
She's good at freaking people out.  and dating....but especially the first part...

Excuse me, sir.  Your point?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 02, 2013, 08:39:01 pm
I'm sorry.  The point is to freak them out.  Not draw them in and actually make it a productive date. 

I shall give you dating lessons.  Do not worry.
She's good at freaking people out.  and dating....but especially the first part...

Excuse me, sir.  Your point?
Oh you know exactly what my point is.  Don't even try this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Grujah on February 03, 2013, 10:26:16 am
You two need to stop doing those things, it's freaking people out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 05, 2013, 09:11:50 am

I think my favorite Indiana Jones quote has to be, "Sallah, I said no camels. That's five camels. Can't you count?"

Such a throwaway line, but I find it to be so hilarious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on February 09, 2013, 04:30:18 am
I just watched The Runaway Bride for the first time and really, really hated it.

Luckily I was able to mock it throughout, which made for a much more enjoyable experience.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 09, 2013, 08:03:35 pm
I just watched The Runaway Bride for the first time and really, really hated it.

Luckily I was able to mock it throughout, which made for a much more enjoyable experience.

I watched The Runaway Bride a couple months ago, but it was the Doctor Who episode, and was pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 09, 2013, 09:42:06 pm
Most interesting Wikipedia article I've read in a while

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_of_the_dog
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 12, 2013, 09:06:16 pm
I get annoyed by the TV show, "Bones." Mainly because the main character is just as annoying as Sheldon from "The Big Bang Theory," except that she's not written as a caricature. Well, I would think that she wasn't, but then I hear this exchange:

"Burning the midnight oil?"
"Oil hasn't been used as a light source for hundreds of years."

I mean, who talks like that? I'll accept that someone new to the English language and all its idioms could make that mistake.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on February 12, 2013, 09:14:02 pm
I see Bones as sort of a mix between Big Bang and CSI.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on February 12, 2013, 10:45:20 pm
I get annoyed by the TV show, "Bones." Mainly because the main character is just as annoying as Sheldon from "The Big Bang Theory," except that she's not written as a caricature. Well, I would think that she wasn't, but then I hear this exchange:

"Burning the midnight oil?"
"Oil hasn't been used as a light source for hundreds of years."

I mean, who talks like that? I'll accept that someone new to the English language and all its idioms could make that mistake.
Like Data when he makes a pronouncement about how igniting a petroleum product on a starship is not wise in "All Good Things...". And when it's pointed out that this is an expression, he asks a question that is so favourite to me - "What is the etymology of that idiom?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on February 12, 2013, 10:49:01 pm
I get annoyed by the TV show, "Bones." Mainly because the main character is just as annoying as Sheldon from "The Big Bang Theory," except that she's not written as a caricature. Well, I would think that she wasn't, but then I hear this exchange:

"Burning the midnight oil?"
"Oil hasn't been used as a light source for hundreds of years."

I mean, who talks like that? I'll accept that someone new to the English language and all its idioms could make that mistake.
I read somewhere (probably TVTropes) that the Brennan character has gotten more and more stereotypically Aspie (or something) as the show goes on - in early seasons she was just withdrawn and maybe a bit nerdy, but now she has the emotional and intellectual depth of a non-Spock Vulcan.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 13, 2013, 03:23:30 pm
Yeah, they kind of kept Ziva (from NCIS) like that for a while. It was cute at first since she was a non-American dealing with American idioms, but it doesn't seem like she graduated from that stage.

By contrast, I'm rewatching Farscape, and it bugs me how Crichton (did I spell his name right?) will make an obviously pop-culture-centric joke and then look around at the aliens like they're clueless. "Has nobody heard of Houdini?" Well, no, John, these people haven't, or did you forget that you're light-years away from Earth? At least when Kiefer Sutherland's character does it in Dark City, it's purposefully mocking his captors and their lack of emotion. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 13, 2013, 03:47:07 pm
I get annoyed by the TV show, "Bones." Mainly because the main character is just as annoying as Sheldon from "The Big Bang Theory," except that she's not written as a caricature. Well, I would think that she wasn't, but then I hear this exchange:

"Burning the midnight oil?"
"Oil hasn't been used as a light source for hundreds of years."

I mean, who talks like that? I'll accept that someone new to the English language and all its idioms could make that mistake.

Bones has David Boreanaz.  Your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on February 13, 2013, 04:52:02 pm
Final Fantasy VIII might well be the greatest video game of all time. I haven't played it in many years, but just this week my wife and I bought an original PlayStation 1, and a copy of FFVIII. The plan is to play it together... though of course it's a one-player game, watching it is almost as good as playing it, and we can switch off. We've played through several Zelda games this way.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on February 13, 2013, 04:54:10 pm
I've never played an FF game, but I thought FFVII was the classic one?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on February 13, 2013, 04:57:54 pm
I've never played an FF game, but I thought FFVII was the classic one?

Most people I know like FFVII better than FFVIII... they also will say that FFVI (III in US) is better. I personally disagree... maybe it's because FFVIII was my first FF (my first RPG, really). But I just so fell in love with the game when I first played it, and then after I finished it I went to play VII... I just couldn't get into it at all. Likely because the graphics and story of VIII are so "real" (keeping in mind it's still PS1).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on February 13, 2013, 05:52:28 pm
I've been rewatching The Simpsons, seasons 1-9.  I'm not a everything-past-9-is-garbage snob, but for me, seasons 4-9 are absolute gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on February 13, 2013, 06:30:41 pm
I've been rewatching The Simpsons, seasons 1-9.  I'm not a everything-past-9-is-garbage snob, but for me, seasons 4-9 are absolute gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY

My wife and I just finished 1-10, and started 11. There's a definite decline in quality, but I still find it enjoyable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on February 13, 2013, 07:02:31 pm
I have heard that it makes a comeback in later seasons.  For example, I think people are in unanimous agreement that S23E09 (Holidays of Future Passed) is superb.  I also liked S23E06 (The Book Job) quite a bit.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 13, 2013, 08:28:56 pm
I've never played an FF game, but I thought FFVII was the classic one?

Most people I know like FFVII better than FFVIII... they also will say that FFVI (III in US) is better. I personally disagree... maybe it's because FFVIII was my first FF (my first RPG, really). But I just so fell in love with the game when I first played it, and then after I finished it I went to play VII... I just couldn't get into it at all. Likely because the graphics and story of VIII are so "real" (keeping in mind it's still PS1).
Similarly, I love the Dragon Quest series, since Dragon Warrior/Quest I was the first RPG I've ever played.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 13, 2013, 09:10:56 pm
I've never played an FF game, but I thought FFVII was the classic one?

Most people I know like FFVII better than FFVIII... they also will say that FFVI (III in US) is better. I personally disagree... maybe it's because FFVIII was my first FF (my first RPG, really). But I just so fell in love with the game when I first played it, and then after I finished it I went to play VII... I just couldn't get into it at all. Likely because the graphics and story of VIII are so "real" (keeping in mind it's still PS1).

I've only ever really had the chance to play 8, having never owned a console.  Both 8 and 7 had full Uematsu music, though.  And really, isn't that the only thing that matters about FF?  Crazy world-destroying time paradoxes aside, that is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: dondon151 on February 13, 2013, 09:18:46 pm
IIRC 6, 7, 8 are all considered to be pretty good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 15, 2013, 09:13:33 am
8 is good, but its not anywhere near as good as 7
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on February 15, 2013, 09:26:38 am
Why is 6 afraid of 7?

BECAUSE 7 ATE 9 LOL
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 15, 2013, 09:37:04 am
So I missed pretty much a whole week of postings, anything worth going back for or shall I mark all as Read and move on from here?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on February 15, 2013, 09:39:16 am
Why is 6 afraid of 7?

BECAUSE 7 ATE 9 LOL
heh
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on February 15, 2013, 09:39:41 am
Anything I've posted is vital. Everything else can be skipped.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 15, 2013, 09:42:14 am
Anything I've posted is vital. Everything else can be skipped.

I particularily liked this one:

You can't.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 25, 2013, 11:31:20 am
Just writing yearly performance reviews for my team.

I wonder how Teachers manage to do this on a frequent basis, I am struggling and I only need to do it once a year!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 25, 2013, 05:32:23 pm
Just writing yearly performance reviews for my team.

I wonder how Teachers manage to do this on a frequent basis, I am struggling and I only need to do it once a year!

The trick is to have a set of stock phrases that apply to basically everyone.

"X is doing well, but could do even better if he put a little more effort into his work." for example.

(Disclaimer: I'm not actually suggesting this is what teachers do. At least not the good ones...)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on February 25, 2013, 09:34:20 pm
In my school, the comments are already written and teachers type in key codes that correspond to the comments.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 25, 2013, 10:58:23 pm
Quoted from a friend:

Quote
Why do I find the need to watch every school closing until mine comes up when I already know they don't have school??

I just have to wonder why people still rely on watching scrolling school closings on television in the age of the internet. Somebody is doing something weird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on February 26, 2013, 12:15:45 pm
Quoted from a friend:

Quote
Why do I find the need to watch every school closing until mine comes up when I already know they don't have school??

I just have to wonder why people still rely on watching scrolling school closings on television in the age of the internet. Somebody is doing something weird.
When scheduling employees, I tend to look at calendar school closing days. It is surprisingly difficult to find that information for K-12 schools. It's a bit easier for colleges and universities.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 26, 2013, 02:43:58 pm
When scheduling employees, I tend to look at calendar school closing days. It is surprisingly difficult to find that information for K-12 schools. It's a bit easier for colleges and universities.

And I just can't see how that happens nowadays. Every school should be able to have a web presence. And it's not like updates can't be done cheaply. It's good experience for the kids, though you probably need safeguards to ensure a student doesn't vandalize your web page.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 26, 2013, 03:33:23 pm
Quoted from a friend:

Quote
Why do I find the need to watch every school closing until mine comes up when I already know they don't have school??

I just have to wonder why people still rely on watching scrolling school closings on television in the age of the internet. Somebody is doing something weird.
When scheduling employees, I tend to look at calendar school closing days. It is surprisingly difficult to find that information for K-12 schools. It's a bit easier for colleges and universities.

He's talking about inclement weather closings, not scheduled closings.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 26, 2013, 03:52:31 pm
He's talking about inclement weather closings, not scheduled closings.

Yeah, and I probably could have put that into context first. I'm currently snowed in under Snowmeggedon II, so that just made perfect sense to me...not so much to those who don't currently live in Suckville, USA.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on February 26, 2013, 05:09:53 pm
Quoted from a friend:

Quote
Why do I find the need to watch every school closing until mine comes up when I already know they don't have school??

I just have to wonder why people still rely on watching scrolling school closings on television in the age of the internet. Somebody is doing something weird.
When scheduling employees, I tend to look at calendar school closing days. It is surprisingly difficult to find that information for K-12 schools. It's a bit easier for colleges and universities.

He's talking about inclement weather closings, not scheduled closings.
I understand that, but the information is not as readily available as it could be.

---

On a pseudo-related website topic: my boss told me he didn't know how to read HoTMaiL.  I think I was less surprised about his understanding, relative to how shocked I was that he called HTML "hotmail"...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on February 26, 2013, 05:14:35 pm
I dunno, if you try to read it all in one go it 'sorta' sounds like Hotmail read in a Japanese accent...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 27, 2013, 01:46:50 pm
I'm a little late for the Final Fantasy party, but I really disliked VIII. I really enjoy VI. VII is overrated, but still good. And one of my favorites remains IX, which isn't a very popular opinion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 01, 2013, 01:51:21 pm
Way back when we were discussing sumif I mentioned that was one I'd never come across. Well I was just trying (and struggling) to work out how to implement a custom leader in one of our TtA games on the spreadsheet, and realised, that sumif thing might be what I want... turns out it did the job in a single pair of formulae. I must say, I am seriously impressed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on March 01, 2013, 01:55:33 pm
VLOOKUP does stuff you can't do otherwise, but I think SUMIF is more valuable because it does stuff you can do otherwise, just infinitely more simply.  In other words, there are no dumb alternatives to VLOOKUP; you just have to learn and use VLOOKUP.  Whereas it's very easy to implement dumb alternatives to SUMIF not knowing there is a much better solution.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on March 01, 2013, 02:24:32 pm
I remember the day I was given access to the company's excel files to clean up the mess they called "formulas"

(I still can't even begin to teach people that they can use the cell they're typing in AS a calculator. Everyone else at work uses a calculator to get the number then puts that number in Excel... le sigh)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on March 05, 2013, 10:22:09 am
Today's wonderful amazing incredible song of the day

Carly Rae Jepsen & NIN -- Call Me A Hole (Call Me Maybe / Head Like a Hole)

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sparky5856 on March 07, 2013, 02:15:09 am
I just spent 10 hours writing Connect-Four in C involving forks and pipes, and I can't even play it; it's only a simulation. X_X

Man, programming is hard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 07, 2013, 02:42:57 am
I just spent 10 hours writing Connect-Four in C involving forks and pipes, and I can't even play it; it's only a simulation. X_X

Man, programming is hard.
C is a tad more difficult than most languages you're likely to actually program.

Connect four sounds a lot more fun than anything I did when I first learned programming.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 07, 2013, 02:45:21 am
Dice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on March 07, 2013, 02:54:14 am
I just spent 10 hours writing Connect-Four in C involving forks and pipes, and I can't even play it; it's only a simulation. X_X

Man, programming is hard.
C is a tad more difficult than most languages you're likely to actually program.

Connect four sounds a lot more fun than anything I did when I first learned programming.
I made a Java applet that drew Mandelbrot-pictures and had a zoom-function back in university.
It even had different color schemes! Got an A+ of course.  ;D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 07, 2013, 04:08:39 am
Haskell is beautiful:
Code: [Select]
Prelude> let primes = sieve [2..] where sieve (x:xs) = x : sieve [y | y <- xs, y `mod` x /= 0]
Prelude> take 20 primes
[2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61,67,71]
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on March 07, 2013, 04:16:46 am
Haskell is beautiful:
Code: [Select]
Prelude> let primes = sieve [2..] where sieve (x:xs) = x : sieve [y | y <- xs, y `mod` x /= 0]
Prelude> take 20 primes
[2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61,67,71]
When I took the functional programming course we had a customized version of Haskell called Helium.
I was so used to imperative programming that I thought "meh, how good can this be"?
But then I learned the beauty of the mathematical statements and easy recursion with head and tail functionality, oh the elegance.

I'm almost a bit sad that in my day job I still use C# and Java most of the time. If only I could work on a project which used F# for instance.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 08, 2013, 11:19:56 am
My hair dryer just died. It was the greatest hair dryer I have ever known. RIP hair dryer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 08, 2013, 11:21:32 am
My hair dryer just died. It was the greatest hair dryer I have ever known. RIP hair dryer.

You mean your girlfriends hair dryer right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 08, 2013, 11:23:30 am
Err... Yeah. Mine is still alive but mine is rubbish because it makes my hair all static :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 08, 2013, 11:24:29 am
How did you know? Are you stalking me?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 08, 2013, 11:25:54 am
Also the wire is really short on mine so I can't be on my laptop and dry my hair at the same time. This just gets worse and worse :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on March 08, 2013, 11:40:47 am
Also the wire is really short on mine so I can't be on my laptop and dry my hair at the same time. This just gets worse and worse :'(

(http://usbmania.net/images/humor/usbhairdryer.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 08, 2013, 11:50:21 am
Also the wire is really short on mine so I can't be on my laptop and dry my hair at the same time. This just gets worse and worse :'(

Mainly, Man Up and let it dry in the wind like Mother Nature/Jesus/Other* intended!

*Delete as applicable
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 08, 2013, 12:11:39 pm
But then it goes curly and I have to use the straighteners...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 08, 2013, 11:05:47 pm
Haskell is beautiful:
Code: [Select]
Prelude> let primes = sieve [2..] where sieve (x:xs) = x : sieve [y | y <- xs, y `mod` x /= 0]
Prelude> take 20 primes
[2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37,41,43,47,53,59,61,67,71]
When I took the functional programming course we had a customized version of Haskell called Helium.
I was so used to imperative programming that I thought "meh, how good can this be"?
But then I learned the beauty of the mathematical statements and easy recursion with head and tail functionality, oh the elegance.

I'm almost a bit sad that in my day job I still use C# and Java most of the time. If only I could work on a project which used F# for instance.

To be fair, neither C# nor F# is nearly as common as G, D, or even Ab.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Cuzz on March 09, 2013, 07:22:42 am
Today's wonderful amazing incredible song of the day

Carly Rae Jepsen & NIN -- Call Me A Hole (Call Me Maybe / Head Like a Hole)

That's actually one of the best mashups I've heard in a long time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 09, 2013, 07:27:48 am
That is pretty awesome!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on March 11, 2013, 04:27:22 pm
(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/184/ifindyourlackoffaithdisto4.gif)



I made this! Years ago! Look at the pixels!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 14, 2013, 11:35:11 am
I'm not quite at a 100%, but I think I may have finally broken myself of the decades-long habit of inserting two spaces after a period. I may now enter the 21st century.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 15, 2013, 05:18:19 am
Code: [Select]

GROUP A (Select 1 Driver) GROUP D (Select 3 Drivers)
ALONSO (Ferrari) GROSJEAN (Lotus)
VETTEL (Red Bull) MALDONADO (Williams)
CHOICE PEREZ (McLaren)
A PIC (Caterham)
RICCIARDO (Toro Rosso)
SUTIL (Force India)
VERGNE ( Toro Rosso)
GROUP B (Select 2 Drivers) CHOICE
BUTTON (McLaren) D1
HAMILTON (Mercedes) CHOICE
MASSA (Ferrari) D2
RAIKKONEN (Lotus) CHOICE
WEBBER (Red Bull) D3
CHOICE
B1
CHOICE GROUP E (Select 2 Drivers)
B2 BIANCHI (Marussia)
BOTTAS (Williams)
CHILTON (Marussia)
GROUP C (Select 1 Driver) GUTIERREZ (Sauber)
DI RESTA (Force India) VAN DER GARDE (Caterham)
HULKENBERG (Sauber) CHOICE
ROSBERG (Mercedes) E1
CHOICE CHOICE
C E2



CONSTRUCTORS

GROUP F (Select 1 Team) GROUP H (Select 1 Team)
FERRARI SAUBER
MCLAREN TORO ROSSO
RED BULL WILLIAMS
CHOICE CHOICE
F H

GROUP G (Select 1 Team) GROUP I (Select 1 Team)
FORCE INDIA CATERHAM
LOTUS MARUSSIA
MERCEDES CHOICE
CHOICE I
G
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 15, 2013, 05:19:13 am
So thats the Formula 1 choices I have this year. Some tough choices thi syear
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 16, 2013, 12:49:22 am
This is the greatest Euro game I have ever seen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO0Wy7Zof90)

(and by "greatest" I mean "greatest" and by "Euro" I mean "comes from Europe" and by "game" I mean "what is this I don't even")
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 16, 2013, 03:17:09 am
That is definitely "Random Stuff"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 17, 2013, 02:36:31 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh-72yBP7sw

Pentatonix -- awesome a capella group

but when they add in instruments... one of them played by Lindsey Stirling...

 :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 17, 2013, 02:46:16 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh-72yBP7sw

Pentatonix -- awesome a capella group

but when they add in instruments... one of them played by Lindsey Stirling...

 :o

Lindsey Stirling rocks.  I'll gladly take her before Joshua Bell or similar prima donnas.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 17, 2013, 03:15:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh-72yBP7sw

Pentatonix -- awesome a capella group

but when they add in instruments... one of them played by Lindsey Stirling...

 :o

Lindsey Stirling rocks.  I'll gladly take her before Joshua Bell or similar prima donnas.

I hope they do more collaborations.  Sooo gooood.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 18, 2013, 08:31:57 am
This is the greatest Euro game I have ever seen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO0Wy7Zof90)

(and by "greatest" I mean "greatest" and by "Euro" I mean "comes from Europe" and by "game" I mean "what is this I don't even")

You realize what this means, right?

It means that this thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6498.0) is now officially useless. We already have our winner, and it wasn’t even nominated.

7 Wonders? Through the Ages? Agricola? Power Grid? Insignificant bugs in comparison to the mighty elephant game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 18, 2013, 12:22:49 pm
I am sad, because all my PBF games are currently waiting on someone else.

Although, I haven't finished reading the rules to Mage Knight, so I'm not upset that MKII hasn't started yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on March 19, 2013, 04:46:55 am
I'm tired.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 19, 2013, 08:45:30 am
My mid-semester grades are due at noon.  It's almost 9.  I'm boned.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on March 19, 2013, 11:48:28 am
I have to admit that I'm glad kuroishin showed up (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6282.0 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6282.0)). This place was getting boring. I think I'm addicted to internet drama. :-[
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on March 19, 2013, 11:53:49 am
I have to admit that I'm glad kuroishin showed up (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6282.0 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6282.0)). This place was getting boring. I think I'm addicted to internet drama. :-[

You were the one who complained first...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on March 19, 2013, 12:06:29 pm
I have to admit that I'm glad kuroishin showed up (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6282.0 (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6282.0)). This place was getting boring. I think I'm addicted to internet drama. :-[

You were the one who complained first...

Are you talking about the "I'm so annoyed at Goko" thread? That was really just meant as a joke, because given the title it would seem that I was making yet another Goko vs Iso debate thread, when there were too many already, and then the contents showed that I was actually complaining about there being too many of such threads.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 25, 2013, 12:36:59 am
Level 50 on Kong.

I'd say I'm done with it, but I'm pretty sure I told myself that at level 40 too...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 25, 2013, 01:49:09 am
Level 50 on Kong.

I'd say I'm done with it, but I'm pretty sure I told myself that at level 40 too...

Oh man, I'm only, like, level 36.

Super Duck Punch!!!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 25, 2013, 01:54:11 am
Level 50 on Kong.

I'd say I'm done with it, but I'm pretty sure I told myself that at level 40 too...

Oh man, I'm only, like, level 36.

Super Duck Punch!!!!

jmtb02 is the person who got me into Flash games. He puts out a ridiculous number of games, most of which are pretty high in quality.

I haven't played Super Duck Punch yet, because I just got into EBF4 and the new Cyclomaniacs, and those are already massive time sinks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 25, 2013, 05:13:09 am
Level 50 on Kong.

I'd say I'm done with it, but I'm pretty sure I told myself that at level 40 too...

Oh man, I'm only, like, level 36.

Super Duck Punch!!!!

51 and 11 more to level up.

Now... What's the BotD?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 25, 2013, 05:20:33 am
I am sad, because all my PBF games are currently waiting on someone else.

Although, I haven't finished reading the rules to Mage Knight, so I'm not upset that MKII hasn't started yet.

You should join mafia games.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 27, 2013, 11:47:47 am
It's a difficult (and yet interesting) art to tell someone that he isn't needed for this meeting without telling him flat-out, "Dude, I don't need you at this meeting. Don't delay it just because it doesn't fit your schedule."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 27, 2013, 11:57:53 am
Why was he invited to the meeting in the first place?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 27, 2013, 12:11:54 pm
Actually, he's coordinating it. But his schedule is so busy that it'll be hard to find a specific day to get me to meet with the client.

I really just need specifics from the client and don't really need the meeting organizer, but he won't let go even though he no longer has anything to contribute to it (until later).

Development is my thing. I can handle it at this point. When it's ready for testing, then we'll need all hands on deck.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 27, 2013, 12:15:56 pm
ahhh, classic Project Manager who buts his nose in when its not needed / Developer who doesn't think he needs management situation!

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 27, 2013, 01:11:45 pm
"I think you probably don't need to attend this meeting, you probably have other important things to focus on."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 27, 2013, 01:34:43 pm
ahhh, classic Project Manager who buts his nose in when its not needed / Developer who doesn't think he needs management situation!

Oh, I still need management, but not every meeting needs to have that person there. And this meeting is all about the client and me. He's welcome to plan the other meetings around his schedule. He just won't have anything unique to contribute to this meeting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 31, 2013, 12:50:55 am
Being able to program is one of the most useful skills ever.  I'm trying to learn Japanese, and I just wrote a program that would randomize Japanese characters and output them into a .txt file.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 31, 2013, 05:21:02 am
Being able to program is one of the most useful skills ever.  I'm trying to learn Japanese, and I just wrote a program that would randomize Japanese characters and output them into a .txt file.
I can relate to this whole post. I'm not a great 1337haxxor, but knowing the basics sure comes in handy every now and then.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 01, 2013, 09:12:05 am
AdamH's thread in Dominion General made me wonder... If Pearl Driver is better than nothing, a Curse is worse than nothing, right? Does that mean that nothing is better than a Curse?

EDIT: Oh, didn't see I had the last post. Sorry for doubleposting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 01, 2013, 09:28:50 pm
Ain't
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 01, 2013, 09:28:57 pm
nothin'
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 01, 2013, 09:29:03 pm
wrong
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 01, 2013, 09:29:11 pm
with a double-double post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 02, 2013, 05:11:51 am
In cribbage that's 6 double posts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 02, 2013, 05:16:49 am
hi people!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 02, 2013, 07:01:47 am
In cribbage that's 6 double posts.

And one for his nob.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 02, 2013, 06:41:40 pm
Random thought for the day: milk does not mix well with the taste of mouthwash
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on April 02, 2013, 08:40:00 pm
Random thought for the day: milk does not mix well with the taste of mouthwash
No, probably not.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 02, 2013, 08:47:07 pm
Rolled 1d128 : 6, total 6
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on April 02, 2013, 08:50:16 pm
That was pretty random, Axxle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 02, 2013, 10:37:55 pm
It was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 03, 2013, 08:40:05 am
If a gratuity is required, then it's not gratuity.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on April 03, 2013, 11:05:54 am
How a differential gear works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F40ZBDAG8-o

from the comments: "I've literally have never had anything explained to me so well."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on April 03, 2013, 01:21:46 pm
If you think that's cool then have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpkTHyfr0pM

It's part one of a training film on how a naval artillery computer from the 50's works. The video above reminded me because one of the components is a gear differential for doing addition and subtraction. The subsequent parts should show up in related videos. It's all really cool.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 03, 2013, 10:23:39 pm
I was just using my program to help me read Japanese, and I just read "すじ" which is spelled in English as "suji" (have no idea what that actually means in Japanese yet) which is pronounced "soojee" just like my username...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 03, 2013, 10:40:23 pm
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 03, 2013, 10:41:53 pm
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".

EVERYBODY DOES!!!!!   >:(

Oh well, now you know.  (Just to make sure, I'm not mad at you in any way)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 03, 2013, 10:42:06 pm
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".
The g not being hard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 03, 2013, 11:24:50 pm
I was just using my program to help me read Japanese, and I just read "すじ" which is spelled in English as "suji" (have no idea what that actually means in Japanese yet) which is pronounced "soojee" just like my username...

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1E

Also, greatest website ever for Japanese study.

Also also, it isn't "soojee" actually.  The "su" is short, so it's more like the "su" in suit + the letter G.  If you want soojee, you'd go with: すうじ

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1F
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 04, 2013, 02:04:16 am
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".

EVERYBODY DOES!!!!!   >:(

Well, after all, only one English word (and its derivatives) pronounces -udg- with an -oo- sound, the word is only 50 years old, and some people regard it as a misspelling with a d that shouldn't be there.  Meanwhile, English words with an -ooj- sound invariably contain -ug- without the d.

So... yeah.  The orthography of sudgy is such that it ought to rhyme with pudgy, fudgy, and budgie.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 04, 2013, 02:10:52 am
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".

EVERYBODY DOES!!!!!   >:(

Well, after all, only one English word (and its derivatives) pronounces -udg- with an -oo- sound, the word is only 50 years old, and some people regard it as a misspelling with a d that shouldn't be there.  Meanwhile, English words with an -ooj- sound invariably contain -ug- without the d.

So... yeah.  The orthography of sudgy is such that it ought to rhyme with pudgy, fudgy, and budgie.

What word has -udg- as an -oo- sound?  Perhaps I need to go to bed because I am having trouble even thinking of an English word with an -ooj- sound regardless of spelling...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 04, 2013, 02:13:07 am
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".

EVERYBODY DOES!!!!!   >:(

Well, after all, only one English word (and its derivatives) pronounces -udg- with an -oo- sound, the word is only 50 years old, and some people regard it as a misspelling with a d that shouldn't be there.  Meanwhile, English words with an -ooj- sound invariably contain -ug- without the d.

So... yeah.  The orthography of sudgy is such that it ought to rhyme with pudgy, fudgy, and budgie.

What word has -udg- as an -oo- sound?  Perhaps I need to go to bed because I am having trouble even thinking of an English word with an -ooj- sound regardless of spelling...

It is not a common word outside hackerspace, engineering, and the military.  A free +1 to the first person who knows it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 04, 2013, 02:19:28 am
I was just using my program to help me read Japanese, and I just read "すじ" which is spelled in English as "suji" (have no idea what that actually means in Japanese yet) which is pronounced "soojee" just like my username...

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1E

Also, greatest website ever for Japanese study.

Also also, it isn't "soojee" actually.  The "su" is short, so it's more like the "su" in suit + the letter G.  If you want soojee, you'd go with: すうじ

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1F

I've always imagined the "oo" being short.  I always say it as "oo" because some people, when they think of "u", think of the upside down e (I don't know how to type that).  Also, the links don't work for me...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 04, 2013, 02:21:37 am
I was just using my program to help me read Japanese, and I just read "すじ" which is spelled in English as "suji" (have no idea what that actually means in Japanese yet) which is pronounced "soojee" just like my username...

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1E

Also, greatest website ever for Japanese study.

Also also, it isn't "soojee" actually.  The "su" is short, so it's more like the "su" in suit + the letter G.  If you want soojee, you'd go with: すうじ

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1F

I've always imagined the "oo" being short.  I always say it as "oo" because some people, when they think of "u", think of the upside down e (I don't know how to type that).  Also, the links don't work for me...

Google wwwjdic and you'll find it.  You can search in Japanese, romanized or not.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 04, 2013, 02:25:33 am
Axxle is pronounced wumpus just so yall know. /mightbealie
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 04, 2013, 02:26:57 am
Axxle is pronounced wumpus just so yall know. /mightbealie

Huh, I always pronounced it "wompas".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 04, 2013, 02:37:50 am
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".

EVERYBODY DOES!!!!!   >:(
I have been reading it as すっじ all the time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 04, 2013, 02:57:21 am
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".

EVERYBODY DOES!!!!!   >:(
I have been reading it as すっじ all the time.

That's probably closest to what he wants.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 04, 2013, 08:40:14 am
Damn, I miss learning Japanese. Maybe I should take a class again. It was fun.

Though, the anal-retentive part of me had issues with just how fluid sentence structure was.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 04, 2013, 09:01:36 am
Though, the anal-retentive part of me had issues with just how fluid sentence structure was.
I suggest not learning Finnish. We don't have a sentence structure.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 04, 2013, 09:11:42 am
Though, the anal-retentive part of me had issues with just how fluid sentence structure was.
I suggest not learning Finnish. We don't have a sentence structure.

I'm intrigued now. I was thinking of taking a course in Russian, but now this looks interesting.

Though, who am I fooling? My hobbies don't allow me to have time to take a class, which is too bad, because I've considered getting my Masters, but I'd have to put much of my life on pause during that time.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on April 04, 2013, 10:03:27 am
I always thought it was pronounced "SUH-gee".

EVERYBODY DOES!!!!!   >:(

Well, after all, only one English word (and its derivatives) pronounces -udg- with an -oo- sound, the word is only 50 years old, and some people regard it as a misspelling with a d that shouldn't be there.  Meanwhile, English words with an -ooj- sound invariably contain -ug- without the d.

So... yeah.  The orthography of sudgy is such that it ought to rhyme with pudgy, fudgy, and budgie.

What word has -udg- as an -oo- sound?  Perhaps I need to go to bed because I am having trouble even thinking of an English word with an -ooj- sound regardless of spelling...

It is not a common word outside hackerspace, engineering, and the military.  A free +1 to the first person who knows it.

You just nerd sniped (http://xkcd.com/356/) me for half an hour and I still can't think of it :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 04, 2013, 10:19:07 am
The word in question is "kludge."  Many instead spell it "kluge," and quite a few people think the form with the d ought to rhyme with fudge.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 04, 2013, 12:20:44 pm
I was just using my program to help me read Japanese, and I just read "すじ" which is spelled in English as "suji" (have no idea what that actually means in Japanese yet) which is pronounced "soojee" just like my username...

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1E

Also, greatest website ever for Japanese study.

Also also, it isn't "soojee" actually.  The "su" is short, so it's more like the "su" in suit + the letter G.  If you want soojee, you'd go with: すうじ

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1F

I've always imagined the "oo" being short.  I always say it as "oo" because some people, when they think of "u", think of the upside down e (I don't know how to type that).  Also, the links don't work for me...

Actually, thinking about it, it sounds fine with a short "u" and a long "u"...  Edit, I think I prefer the short "u" better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 04, 2013, 08:00:21 pm
Never underestimate the power of the Scout's code. 

A-a-armed and ready!

Captain Teemo o-o-on duty.  Yes sir!  Hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of the Scout's code. 

I'll scout ahead!  Hup-two-three-four.  I'll scout ahead -swiftly!- hup-two-three-four. 
That's gotta sting. 
Hup-two-three-four, Captain Teemo Captain Teemo, hup-two-three-four, a-a-armed and yes sir! 
Hup-two-three-four hup-hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of C-Captain Teemo. 
Hup-two-three-four, Captain Teemo Captain Teemo, hup-two-three-four, a-a-armed and yes sir! 
Hup-two-three-four hup-hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of C-Captain Teemo. 
Hup-two-three-four, Captain Teemo Captain Teemo, hup-two-three-four, C-Captain Teemo, yes sir! 
Hup-two-three-four hup-hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of the Scout's code.

Captain Teemo o-o-on duty.  Yes sir!  Hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of the Scout's code.  A-a-armed and ready!

Captain Teemo o-o-on duty.  Yes sir!  Hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of the Scout's code.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on April 04, 2013, 08:26:01 pm
The word in question is "kludge."  Many instead spell it "kluge," and quite a few people think the form with the d ought to rhyme with fudge.

Oh, OK.  I feel better now, both because I hadn't seen that one before and because I learned a new word.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 04, 2013, 09:51:08 pm
Captain Teemo o-o-on duty.  Yes sir!  Hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of the Scout's code.

Oh good, I was worried we'd gone off on an organized tangent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 04, 2013, 09:57:24 pm
Captain Teemo o-o-on duty.  Yes sir!  Hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of the Scout's code.

Oh good, I was worried we'd gone off on an organized tangent.

I know right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 04, 2013, 11:12:18 pm
Never underestimate the power of the Scout's code. 
Wait what
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 05, 2013, 04:27:10 pm
Radnom Thought:

Does Donald not like us anymore?
Or had he felt he had passed on everything he needed to teach us and moved on, a bit like a wise old karate master....or possibly the Littlest Hobo.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on April 05, 2013, 04:40:56 pm
Right before he started being quiet he sounded kind of annoyed  (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=7218.msg206735#msg206735) with some of the drama around isotropic closing and then posted in the interview thread  (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5799.msg206736#msg206736) basically to say he wasn't planning on checking it any time soon.

I'm sure he'll be around again once Guilds comes out to deal with rules questions and do a secret history.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 06, 2013, 12:08:59 am
Radnom
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 06, 2013, 12:48:45 am
Radnom
onmdRa
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 06, 2013, 01:48:07 am
Morgrim, be happy.  You are now a Rock, Paper, Scissors card.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 06, 2013, 02:37:05 am
I dont understand.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 06, 2013, 02:44:38 am
It's a game me and my brothers made, where we have random cards and have the cards fight each other to see who wins.  I just made a card of you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 06, 2013, 02:46:32 am
Rock, Paper, Scissors? Shoot.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 06, 2013, 04:37:49 am
Rock, Paper, Scissors? Shoot.
Who?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 06, 2013, 06:56:56 am
Rock, Paper, Scissors? Shoot.
Who?
Ozle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on April 06, 2013, 10:45:36 am
Is that three lives remaining now?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 06, 2013, 07:24:24 pm
Is that three lives remaining now?
I believe. Ooohhh run everyone, crazy Morg has  gun!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on April 09, 2013, 06:55:52 pm
I am going to next Tuesday's Muse concert at Madison Square Garden.  Very excited!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 10, 2013, 03:02:00 am
It's cool that I'm all excited about the show that's opening this weekend, but it sucks that it's keeping me awake tonight.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 10, 2013, 09:36:26 am
I am seriously putting the "pro" in procrastinate this week.  And this month...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 10, 2013, 09:40:20 am
I'm better at procrastinating than you, and I'll explain why some time next week.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 10, 2013, 05:01:01 pm
So, turns out I can fly to New York for next weekend and stay cheaper than the same of trip to Athens!

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 10, 2013, 05:16:59 pm
So, turns out I can fly to New York for next weekend and stay cheaper than the same of trip to Athens!

Isn't NYC closer to Tuvalu anyway?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 10, 2013, 05:18:03 pm
So, turns out I can fly to New York for next weekend and stay cheaper than the same of trip to Athens!

Isn't NYC closer to Tuvalu anyway?

Yes, it is closer to a lot of places...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 10, 2013, 06:46:01 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/bf5ec32d6c44a4364c803221fac5351d/tumblr_mkmydqyp731qavazmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 16, 2013, 04:29:22 am
-shakespeare-
I see you driving
round town with the girl I love
and I'm like, f*ck you!


(The reason why the edited version is much worse!)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 16, 2013, 10:29:51 am
This Fridays Holiday approved at 10am
Holiday to Barcelona booked at 11am
Wooo
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 16, 2013, 11:04:05 am
Every time I see Titandrake's name, it parses in my mind as tit and rake. Probably could be used as a pervert test.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 16, 2013, 11:31:06 am
Every time I see Titandrake's name, it parses in my mind as tit and rake. Probably could be used as a pervert test.
What do you mean, it's a common bird and a tool. Nothing perverted there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 17, 2013, 04:22:03 am
This Fridays Holiday approved at 10am
Holiday to Barcelona booked at 11am
Wooo

Today I am a sad Ozle!

Got phoned up last night to tell me there was a problem with my booking and that I dont actually have flights + Hotel booked
And to do it again today the price has gone up £100!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Morgrim7 on April 17, 2013, 04:24:14 am
Hey Ozle, whats an Ozle?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 17, 2013, 04:26:47 am
Hey Ozle, whats an Ozle?

I think its documented in my introduction thread, or in the 'Whats your name mean' thread.

I'd repeat it here but that would mean I would have to remember what i wrote or risk contradicting myself and having to make up more bullshit

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 17, 2013, 07:45:12 am
Hohoho, seems Annonymous have taken over Westboro Baptist Church.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Westboro-Baptist-Church/400347320041300
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 17, 2013, 08:29:22 am
This Fridays Holiday approved at 10am
Holiday to Barcelona booked at 11am
Wooo

Today I am a sad Ozle!

Got phoned up last night to tell me there was a problem with my booking and that I dont actually have flights + Hotel booked
And to do it again today the price has gone up £100!

Skip the flight, Tuvalu to Barcelona is like straight through the center of the Earth.  Start digging, man, start digging.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 17, 2013, 08:33:07 am
Im not in Tuvalu though, I am FROM Tuvalu...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 17, 2013, 10:53:21 am
Hohoho, seems Annonymous have taken over Westboro Baptist Church.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Westboro-Baptist-Church/400347320041300

How long has that been going on? I went all the way back to April 4...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on April 17, 2013, 11:41:04 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/075205299055ff019eb06f07047f16d3/tumblr_mlb0g5zZiJ1qlllhso1_500.jpg)

Also

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6c5184338d4612268ce24041e3651ace/tumblr_mk1gegZxJ71rjk9u6o1_500.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/6071822fec4db28294b83c9990bf5139/tumblr_mk1gegZxJ71rjk9u6o2_r1_500.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on April 18, 2013, 11:16:03 pm
I am paying for my procrastination tonight. Essay+test tomorrow+lots of bio homework=ugh. Especially essay.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 19, 2013, 02:58:26 am
Casually speedrunning the game VVVVVV. After several attempts, managed to get 23:54 minutes + 59 deaths. Going to try to get some levels more consistent.

(For perspective, the current world record is 13:18, so I'm not doing that good.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 20, 2013, 10:03:32 am
Casually speedrunning the game VVVVVV. After several attempts, managed to get 23:54 minutes + 59 deaths. Going to try to get some levels more consistent.

(For perspective, the current world record is 13:18, so I'm not doing that good.)

Ooh, you're a speedrunner? VVVVVV is a fun game for speedrunning, or at least it looks it.
I've been Speedrunning You Have to Win the Game (http://speeddemosarchive.com/YouHaveToWinTheGame.html) recently, that's quite a fun indie game. My record is 5:23 (1 unintentional death), WR is 4:58. Once the WR gets optimised with the current route it should go down to about 4:50. I contributed to the current route, cut about 20 seconds off the old route.

Also a question. Does anyone know if there's a (sensible) way to make Powerpoint give a random number generator? It would be useful for a club I do AV at.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 20, 2013, 11:09:58 am
Also a question. Does anyone know if there's a (sensible) way to make Powerpoint give a random number generator? It would be useful for a club I do AV at.
What's AV? I can only think of Adult Video and that's probably not it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 20, 2013, 12:08:59 pm
Audio/Visual. So sound desk, music, and projection. And by a club, I meant a children's club :P.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 20, 2013, 05:41:13 pm
Casually speedrunning the game VVVVVV. After several attempts, managed to get 23:54 minutes + 59 deaths. Going to try to get some levels more consistent.

(For perspective, the current world record is 13:18, so I'm not doing that good.)

Ooh, you're a speedrunner? VVVVVV is a fun game for speedrunning, or at least it looks it.
I've been Speedrunning You Have to Win the Game (http://speeddemosarchive.com/YouHaveToWinTheGame.html) recently, that's quite a fun indie game. My record is 5:23 (1 unintentional death), WR is 4:58. Once the WR gets optimised with the current route it should go down to about 4:50. I contributed to the current route, cut about 20 seconds off the old route.

Also a question. Does anyone know if there's a (sensible) way to make Powerpoint give a random number generator? It would be useful for a club I do AV at.

I wouldn't call myself a speedrunner. It's more that I decided to play through VVVVVV again, then decided to get the acheivements for dying as few times as possible. So I'm not using the fastest strategies, because those involve more risk and often use death abuse to save time.

First I'm going for getting < 50 deaths, then I'll try to get under 20 minutes, and then I'll probably be done with it.

Edit: Arrrrgghhhh. 21:55, 56 deaths. Definitely would have gotten under 50 deaths if I hadn't messed up so badly on the last couple of rooms, because the rest was amazingly good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 21, 2013, 12:49:00 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_awvzljLvjg

(edit, titandrake, this is for you)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 21, 2013, 03:40:08 pm
It's always sad to finish a show, but I am so glad to have it be over. I can now listen to other music rather than practice what I'm supposed to be singing. And I don't have to worry about screwing up that one scene again (who knew that working in a restaurant could be so difficult to sing?).

But I have another show coming up, so I have a different set of music to worry about now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 21, 2013, 03:55:52 pm
Chapter 7 is done; chapter 8 is almost done.  Then time to look through the others and update with reviewer comments.  So very busy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 21, 2013, 04:12:25 pm
While reading through my notes for a module I'm revising (barely...), I come across a section with the following:

Let X, Y be sets, |X|=x, |Y|=y. Then if y>6x, an injective function F:X->Y exists.

Now, okay, that's a fairly sensible statement. Except this is third year mathematics, and something like that is well below even first year, making it a truly trivial statement at this point.

(There was a reason for it, though, of course, it's still just funny at this level).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on April 21, 2013, 04:16:02 pm
I'd like to hear that reason.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 21, 2013, 04:37:06 pm
We were proving it by the Symmetric Lovatz Local Lemma, I believe.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 21, 2013, 05:16:03 pm
Lesson: there are too many academics playing Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on April 21, 2013, 05:20:23 pm
Lesson: there are too many academics playing Dominion.
You could always play base octopus.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 21, 2013, 06:07:46 pm
Lovatz

(Lovász)



Hungarian pronunciation guide:

s is "sh"
z is ... "z"
zs is "zh", like "jeu" in French
sz is the one that actually sounds like "s"

Disclaimer: I only speak mathematician's Hungarian.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 22, 2013, 11:05:24 am
And yesterday's "Forgotten English" word is "Queen Dick."

As defined in George Matsell's Vocabulum, or The Rogue's Lexicon in 1859, "it happened in the reign of Queen Dick, it never occurred."

I so badly need to use this in a conversation.

"The last time I won a game of Dominion buying nothing but Villages was during Queen Dick's reign."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 22, 2013, 03:07:36 pm
Those of you in the TtA crowd will have likely seen my housemate being mean to me in games (spending 7 resources and 3 population to deny me 3 resources, early in a 4p game, for example). So he made the mistake of telling me when his ISODOM match was (http://tinypic.com/r/24yxn2s/4).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 22, 2013, 06:55:41 pm
Lovatz

(Lovász)



Hungarian pronunciation guide:

s is "sh"
z is ... "z"
zs is "zh", like "jeu" in French
sz is the one that actually sounds like "s"

Disclaimer: I only speak mathematician's Hungarian.

Oh, yes, it is Lovász. It actually came up in the exam, fortunately just stating the symmetric version, rather than say, proving the general version (for comparison, think: carrying a loaf of bread home compared to carrying four bottles of milk across a tightrope).

In other news, I mentioned I semi-casually speedrun You Have to Win the Game. I've just set a new PB of 5 minutes 13 seconds (http://i34.tinypic.com/121r7m8.jpg), which is actually faster than the run on Speeddemosarchive. Still 15 seconds off the world record though :(. Still, this does make me want to record what I do... maybe I can set a world record (probably not though lol).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on April 22, 2013, 07:02:53 pm
Random Stuff =/= disruptive and non-contributory posting
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on April 22, 2013, 07:04:28 pm
Fine. So, did you hear about the redacted?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 22, 2013, 08:30:52 pm
Random Stuff =/= disruptive and non-contributory posting

Meh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 23, 2013, 02:39:57 am
Got it! New PB, 20:14. (http://imgur.com/FPIMsy6)

Wasn't expecting it, since the run felt so terrible. I was expecting something more like 25 minutes or so. Just 14 more seconds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 23, 2013, 02:47:02 am
Got it! New PB, 20:14. (http://imgur.com/FPIMsy6)

Wasn't expecting it, since the run felt so terrible. I was expecting something more like 25 minutes or so. Just 14 more seconds.

Is that your personal best for running a marathon?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 23, 2013, 03:26:20 am
Got it! New PB, 20:14. (http://imgur.com/FPIMsy6)

Wasn't expecting it, since the run felt so terrible. I was expecting something more like 25 minutes or so. Just 14 more seconds.

Is that your personal best for running a marathon?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=marathon+%2F+%281214+seconds%29
Quote
77.67 to 77.83 mph
Sounds right to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 23, 2013, 03:33:51 am
Got it! New PB, 20:14. (http://imgur.com/FPIMsy6)

Wasn't expecting it, since the run felt so terrible. I was expecting something more like 25 minutes or so. Just 14 more seconds.

Is that your personal best for running a marathon?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=marathon+%2F+%281214+seconds%29
Quote
77.67 to 77.83 mph
Sounds right to me.

Just 14 seconds off the world record, I guess.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 23, 2013, 05:33:20 am
Nice job.

Probably a good way to cut those seconds off is to work out where you struggle most, and improve it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 23, 2013, 06:23:09 am
Nice job.

Probably a good way to cut those seconds off is to work out where you struggle most, and improve it.

I'm guessing it's around mile 20, before he gets his second wind.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 23, 2013, 10:11:58 pm
I just saw over at BGG that Tables plays Netrunner and I nearly cheered in delight.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 23, 2013, 10:15:09 pm
I just saw over at BGG that Tables plays Netrunner and I nearly cheered in delight.

Dude... someone presented the oppertunity for me to do maths. I don't need to play a game to do that.

(I don't play netrunner. Well, not really. I've played with a few friends, but don't have any sets myself. I have a zany Jinteki deck idea I want to try out at some point though... even though I'm about 75% sure it won't work as intended)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 23, 2013, 10:18:45 pm
I just saw over at BGG that Tables plays Netrunner and I nearly cheered in delight.

Dude... someone presented the oppertunity for me to do maths. I don't need to play a game to do that.

(I don't play netrunner. Well, not really. I've played with a few friends, but don't have any sets myself. I have a zany Jinteki deck idea I want to try out at some point though... even though I'm about 75% sure it won't work as intended)

You troll the forums of games you don't play very often just looking for chances to do math? :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 23, 2013, 11:15:38 pm
I have a zany Jinteki deck idea

Anyone else participate in the (rather lame) ARG that FFG put together for the release of Android (not Netrunner)?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 24, 2013, 07:15:27 am
I watched a video (possibly by Rahdo) about Netrunner to see what the big deal was. It looked pretty bland and linear. Why is it such a big deal?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 24, 2013, 11:54:09 am
So I'm currently working my way through (http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/756864155.jpg) which I got when I visited my family a couple of weeks ago. They were 5p each in Waitrose, so we bought 2 boxes. When they were counted at the till it turned out we had 107 between us, but then my brother went back for an extra box and we ended up with 157 Creme Eggs. I only brought 1 of the boxes back to York with me, and I have my fiancee to help me, but the box still looks practically untouched and I am a bit sick of them now. I've had at least 1 a day for the past week.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on April 24, 2013, 12:07:00 pm
So I'm currently working my way through [CREME EGGS] which I got when I visited my family a couple of weeks ago. They were 5p each in Waitrose, so we bought 2 boxes. When they were counted at the till it turned out we had 107 between us, but then my brother went back for an extra box and we ended up with 157 Creme Eggs. I only brought 1 of the boxes back to York with me, and I have my fiancee to help me, but the box still looks practically untouched and I am a bit sick of them now. I've had at least 1 a day for the past week.

Love those things so much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Qvist on April 24, 2013, 02:52:27 pm
I watched a video (possibly by Rahdo) about Netrunner to see what the big deal was. It looked pretty bland and linear. Why is it such a big deal?

I don't know. I'm really hooked by this game. I have watched some gameplay and I really like the bluffing mechanism in it. I really want to give this a shot, but I don't have anybody to play this with. I've installed OCTGN, but didn't have the time to play it yet. So if anyone would like to play this with me, please contact me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on April 24, 2013, 04:01:32 pm
For one of my lectures I have to hand in a Haskell programm that defines a value of the type (Either ([Int],Bool) Bool).
It's automatically checked for correctness. But when I try to hand in my solution
Code: [Select]
wert3 :: Either ([Int],Bool) Bool
wert3 = Left ([4,6..], True)
the site woks for a while and then gives me an error message that roughly translates to:
Quote
Time Out!
Either the system is overloaded or your solution leads to very comprehensive calculations.
All exercises are made in a way so they can be processed in short time.
You should rework your solution or resubmit it later.
Thanks for understanding.
They didn't tell me the value needed to be finite. EDGE CASED!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 24, 2013, 04:35:06 pm
(http://buttersafe.com/comics/2013-03-28-Chess.jpg) (http://buttersafe.com/2013/03/28/chess/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 24, 2013, 07:59:47 pm
I just saw over at BGG that Tables plays Netrunner and I nearly cheered in delight.

Dude... someone presented the oppertunity for me to do maths. I don't need to play a game to do that.

(I don't play netrunner. Well, not really. I've played with a few friends, but don't have any sets myself. I have a zany Jinteki deck idea I want to try out at some point though... even though I'm about 75% sure it won't work as intended)

You troll the forums of games you don't play very often just looking for chances to do math? :P

Well, when you put it that way... absolutely, yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on April 25, 2013, 09:23:53 am
@ehalc, the queens face makes that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on April 25, 2013, 09:26:11 am
Oh and @tinas omg my gf is obsessed with those(Cadbury eggs) I want to vomit everytime she eats one I do not understand how people can like them, just so rich...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on April 25, 2013, 07:24:12 pm
As a kid I used to love the creme eggs, but now I find them horrendously rich (and yet my sweet tooth has not otherwise diminished, oddly). The last time I tried one it also seemed a bit ... hard-boiled? Like the inside was a lot stiffer than I remembered it being. Also, presumably to cash in on the non-Easter market, they've released "creme bars" that are like 5 mini creme eggs melted together in a single bar, which seems to reduce the "specialness" of having them only available at Easter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on April 25, 2013, 08:53:02 pm
I don't mind the creme eggs, but what I really hate are those malt speckled eggs. Gives me the shivers every time I bite into one of those.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 26, 2013, 11:08:12 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165

Quote
A supermarket chain has been forced to withdraw bags of nuts - for failing to declare they may contain peanuts.

I... ummmm..... Really?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 26, 2013, 11:28:17 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165

Quote
A supermarket chain has been forced to withdraw bags of nuts - for failing to declare they may contain peanuts.

I... ummmm..... Really?

This makes a lot more sense when you consider that a) They're labelled as a particular type of nuts, not e.g. assorted nuts and b) Peanuts aren't nuts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 26, 2013, 11:35:05 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165

Quote
A supermarket chain has been forced to withdraw bags of nuts - for failing to declare they may contain peanuts.

I... ummmm..... Really?

This makes a lot more sense when you consider that a) They're labelled as a particular type of nuts, not e.g. assorted nuts and b) Peanuts aren't nuts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut)

But the particular type of nut that they are labelled as is monkey nuts, which you'd hope everyone (or at least those with an allergy to peanuts) knows is another name for peanuts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 26, 2013, 11:46:15 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165

Quote
A supermarket chain has been forced to withdraw bags of nuts - for failing to declare they may contain peanuts.

I... ummmm..... Really?

This makes a lot more sense when you consider that a) They're labelled as a particular type of nuts, not e.g. assorted nuts and b) Peanuts aren't nuts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut)

But the particular type of nut that they are labelled as is monkey nuts, which you'd hope everyone (or at least those with an allergy to peanuts) knows is another name for peanuts.

I've never heard of monkey nuts.  Britishism?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 26, 2013, 12:41:56 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165

Quote
A supermarket chain has been forced to withdraw bags of nuts - for failing to declare they may contain peanuts.

I... ummmm..... Really?

This makes a lot more sense when you consider that a) They're labelled as a particular type of nuts, not e.g. assorted nuts and b) Peanuts aren't nuts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut)

But the particular type of nut that they are labelled as is monkey nuts, which you'd hope everyone (or at least those with an allergy to peanuts) knows is another name for peanuts.

I for one didn't know that. When you put it that way... hmm.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 26, 2013, 03:42:32 pm
@ehalc, the queens face makes that.

Isn't that a Bishop? :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 26, 2013, 03:58:26 pm
Happy news: Got my copy of the Anniversary Edition of Galaxy Trucker. It is so beautiful. And so big. I can't wait to whip that bad boy out in mixed company.

Sad news: I have to wait to bring it out. And I can't even play it at my place, as my table isn't large enough to handle it. Sorry, fella, on the shelf you go.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 26, 2013, 04:40:30 pm
Happy news: Got my copy of the Anniversary Edition of Galaxy Trucker. It is so beautiful. And so big. I can't wait to whip that bad boy out in mixed company.

Sad news: I have to wait to bring it out. And I can't even play it at my place, as my table isn't large enough to handle it. Sorry, fella, on the shelf you go.


You clearly have dreams of being taken out of context. Luckily, your wish is my command.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 26, 2013, 04:44:49 pm
Happy news: Got my copy of the Anniversary Edition of Galaxy Trucker. It is so beautiful. And so big. I can't wait to whip that bad boy out in mixed company.

Sad news: I have to wait to bring it out. And I can't even play it at my place, as my table isn't large enough to handle it. Sorry, fella, on the shelf you go.


You clearly have dreams of being taken out of context. Luckily, your wish is my command.

OMG LOL.  Literally.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 26, 2013, 05:33:02 pm
To be honest, he was trying too hard there. It was really just too much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on April 27, 2013, 12:10:32 pm
@ehalc, the queens face makes that.

Isn't that a Bishop? :P

Assuming that is close enough to cause checkmate that has to be a queen, if it was a bishop the king could move forward/backward.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 27, 2013, 12:46:34 pm
@ehalc, the queens face makes that.

Isn't that a Bishop? :P

Assuming that is close enough to cause checkmate that has to be a queen, if it was a bishop the king could move forward/backward.
And that's why they surrender.

Besides, the first move in the entire game seems to be black moving his king. It doesn't look like the game state was intended to be analyzed like this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 27, 2013, 03:29:04 pm
I just learnt a method for finding cube roots of numbers between 1,000 and 1,000,000 with integer cube roots, and it's pretty easy.

Roughly: Look at the last digit of your number, that determines the second digit of your cube root
Divide by 1,000 and round down, then find the next cube below that number. The cube root of that is the 10's digit.

E.g. 389,017.

A 7 at the end can only be caused by a units digit of 3
389 is larger than 343 (but smaller than 512), which is 7 cubed.

So this is 73^3
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 27, 2013, 07:59:18 pm
I just learnt a method for finding cube roots of numbers between 1,000 and 1,000,000 with integer cube roots, and it's pretty easy.

Roughly: Look at the last digit of your number, that determines the second digit of your cube root
Divide by 1,000 and round down, then find the next cube below that number. The cube root of that is the 10's digit.

E.g. 389,017.

A 7 at the end can only be caused by a units digit of 3
389 is larger than 343 (but smaller than 512), which is 7 cubed.

So this is 73^3

This is why I have an English/Creative Writing degree.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 27, 2013, 08:10:30 pm
This is why I have an English/Creative Writing degree.

How did you get it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 27, 2013, 08:12:13 pm
This is why I have an English/Creative Writing degree.

How did you get it?

Graduating is easier than you think.

I also added "English" in later.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 27, 2013, 11:22:08 pm
@ehalc, the queens face makes that.

Isn't that a Bishop? :P

Assuming that is close enough to cause checkmate that has to be a queen, if it was a bishop the king could move forward/backward.

Oh I was just referring to the images with the horse/knight and the tower/rook and everything, not the actual board.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 28, 2013, 02:08:55 am
Yet more unapologetic speedrunning spam! New VVVVVV personal best.

http://imgur.com/z4R0IPg

I have no idea how I failed so much on "That's Why I Have To Kill You", while doing decently on the Gravitron, which is by far the room I usually die the most on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 28, 2013, 11:57:19 pm
Dear Random Q. Student:

The final is scheduled for a certain day at a certain time. That day and time has been on the academic calendar since, at the latest, May 2012. When you sign up for classes, consider looking at your personal calendar in advance. If you are planning to leave the state for the summer on Tuesday of finals week, consider signing up for a course that does not have a final on Thursday. For that matter, if you're planning to leave on the Tuesday of finals week, consider not signing up for courses at all.

Either way, don't ask me three weeks before the end of the semester if you can take the final early.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 29, 2013, 08:42:37 am
Happy news: Got my copy of the Anniversary Edition of Galaxy Trucker. It is so beautiful. And so big. I can't wait to whip that bad boy out in mixed company.

Sad news: I have to wait to bring it out. And I can't even play it at my place, as my table isn't large enough to handle it. Sorry, fella, on the shelf you go.


You clearly have dreams of being taken out of context. Luckily, your wish is my command.

Well, really, I often do take conversations and purposefully spin them into something dirty. It's just not a party if I don't spout off innuendos at least 10 times in the night.

I wasn't expecting a quote in that thread, since it wasn't innocuous to begin with, but I'll gracefully accept any attention drawn to the fact that I have the anniversary edition of Galaxy Trucker. Now we just need to schedule a game night with it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 29, 2013, 09:20:30 am
Happy news: Got my copy of the Anniversary Edition of Galaxy Trucker. It is so beautiful. And so big. I can't wait to whip that bad boy out in mixed company.

Sad news: I have to wait to bring it out. And I can't even play it at my place, as my table isn't large enough to handle it. Sorry, fella, on the shelf you go.


You clearly have dreams of being taken out of context. Luckily, your wish is my command.

Well, really, I often do take conversations and purposefully spin them into something dirty. It's just not a party if I don't spout off innuendos at least 10 times in the night.

I wasn't expecting a quote in that thread, since it wasn't innocuous to begin with, but I'll gracefully accept any attention drawn to the fact that I have the anniversary edition of Galaxy Trucker. Now we just need to schedule a game night with it.

If you had left the word "innuendos" out, you'd have gotten another "out of context" quote immediately.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 29, 2013, 12:14:06 pm
Just noticed a new user with 0 posts named "magicfuck." Let's see how long before that account gets deleted (maybe he's a nice guy and Dominion champion).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 29, 2013, 12:16:38 pm
Dear Random Q. Student:

The final is scheduled for a certain day at a certain time. That day and time has been on the academic calendar since, at the latest, May 2012. When you sign up for classes, consider looking at your personal calendar in advance. If you are planning to leave the state for the summer on Tuesday of finals week, consider signing up for a course that does not have a final on Thursday. For that matter, if you're planning to leave on the Tuesday of finals week, consider not signing up for courses at all.

Either way, don't ask me three weeks before the end of the semester if you can take the final early.
yup.  this exactly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on April 29, 2013, 12:19:11 pm
Just noticed a new user with 0 posts named "magicfuck." Let's see how long before that account gets deleted (maybe he's a nice guy and Dominion champion).

Just $19.95 a year. $19.95 a year!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on April 29, 2013, 03:38:11 pm
Just noticed a new user with 0 posts named "magicfuck." Let's see how long before that account gets deleted (maybe he's a nice guy and Dominion champion).
That guy was around all the time on iso - you never saw him?

I have to say, with all frankness, I am being totally serious here - I was actually a bit afraid I'd get paired up with him while doing a video.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on April 29, 2013, 03:40:55 pm
He/she plays innovation now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 29, 2013, 03:51:46 pm
Really? Wow. It just looks like a spam account.

Good thing I'm not admin then.

Although, if I played more Isotropic, I'd have avoided that goof-up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 29, 2013, 03:54:52 pm
Could it be I have been contacted by a responsible spammer?

He e-mails my work account with a, "Hi, we noticed that you're using blah and have a tool that does everything blah does only better," BS message.

I responded with, "Not my business. Remove me from your mailing list."

I expected him to reply back with, "Could you forward this message to someone who makes those decisions?" But he did not. I was kind of impressed.

Granted, he sent me unsolicited e-mail, so he should still be staked to an anthill, but his response was not what I expected.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 29, 2013, 04:56:33 pm
I have to say, with all frankness, I am being totally serious here - I was actually a bit afraid I'd get paired up with him while doing a video.

I narrowly avoided playing a game with him today by pressing the "decline" button.  It was tough, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on April 29, 2013, 05:00:14 pm
I have to say, with all frankness, I am being totally serious here - I was actually a bit afraid I'd get paired up with him while doing a video.

I narrowly avoided playing a game with him today by pressing the "decline" button.  It was tough, though.
Well, it was only a bit, and I would have - I really don't like declining though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Cuzz on April 29, 2013, 07:12:44 pm
Dear Random Q. Student:

The final is scheduled for a certain day at a certain time. That day and time has been on the academic calendar since, at the latest, May 2012. When you sign up for classes, consider looking at your personal calendar in advance. If you are planning to leave the state for the summer on Tuesday of finals week, consider signing up for a course that does not have a final on Thursday. For that matter, if you're planning to leave on the Tuesday of finals week, consider not signing up for courses at all.

Either way, don't ask me three weeks before the end of the semester if you can take the final early.
yup.  this exactly.

Complaining about students... One of my favorite pastimes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 30, 2013, 07:28:40 pm
Yesterday, I was expecting to do almost nothing today, sit at home play at games etc.. I forgot I had a lecture... which means 4 mile round trip of walking... and also laser quest which including playing that (four games of 20 minutes) means I ended doing approximately 13 miles of walking/running today. Slightly more than my planned zero.

And it was awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 30, 2013, 08:23:11 pm
Yesterday, I was expecting to do almost nothing today, sit at home play at games etc.. I forgot I had a lecture... which means 4 mile round trip of walking... and also laser quest which including playing that (four games of 20 minutes) means I ended doing approximately 13 miles of walking/running today. Slightly more than my planned zero.

And it was awesome.

OMG I want to go play laser tag!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 01, 2013, 02:00:54 am
Yesterday, I was expecting to do almost nothing today, sit at home play at games etc.. I forgot I had a lecture... which means 4 mile round trip of walking... and also laser quest which including playing that (four games of 20 minutes) means I ended doing approximately 13 miles of walking/running today. Slightly more than my planned zero.

And it was awesome.

OMG I want to go play laser tag!

/in for f.ds laser tag.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 01, 2013, 02:03:10 am
I am stuck...  On a ridiculous Heisenbug.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 01, 2013, 03:27:36 am
Should magically fix itself when you least suspect it.

What kind of program are you creating? Are you using source control? On really tough problems in complicated systems I usually just revert back my changes to before the bug happened and that usually indicates where the bug is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 01, 2013, 02:55:03 pm
Should magically fix itself when you least suspect it.

What kind of program are you creating? Are you using source control? On really tough problems in complicated systems I usually just revert back my changes to before the bug happened and that usually indicates where the bug is.

RPG Maker XP is a game maker.  Most of the time you can use their way of making games.  If you want to, however, you can change the source code of the game.  I do that a whole lot, as you can do more there than in the program's game maker abilities.  I made a new thing where you could use a "magnet" type thing to move towards or away from these "magnet" thingies.  Cliffs make things really complicated, and in a certain situation when I moved onto a cliff it thought I was still off of it.  Looking into the problem more just said some really confusing things...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 01, 2013, 08:02:45 pm
This is the most hilarious thing I have read this week.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hnigatu/29-candid-reflections-from-a-stay-at-home-dad

(Sorry that it's Buzzfeed.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 01, 2013, 09:25:23 pm
This is the most hilarious thing I have read this week.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hnigatu/29-candid-reflections-from-a-stay-at-home-dad

(Sorry that it's Buzzfeed.)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbellassai/the-creepiest-things-a-child-has-ever-said-to-a-parent
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 11, 2013, 09:26:41 pm
You know I was talking about the You Have to Win the Game speedrun stuff, with a WR of 4:58? Yeah, so I did some messing around to see what kind of time was possible (using slowdown and saves), expecting about 4:50 to be the absolute limit. Turns out I could get a 4:41. This means that my record of 5:13 is about 30 seconds off perfection in a 281 second game, which is... nasty.

On the upside, someone else is getting into speedrunning this game and they're better than me. I'm excited to hopefully see the time get pushed as low as it can humanly go.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 11, 2013, 10:45:30 pm
On the upside, someone else is getting into speedrunning this game and they're better than me. I'm excited to hopefully see the time get pushed as low as it can humanly go.

If you're interested in getting the time pushed as low as it can, this (http://tasvideos.org) site might be of interest to you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 12, 2013, 08:44:39 am
You can't TAS PC games, in general. What I did was really about as close as it gets.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 12, 2013, 03:10:58 pm
You can't TAS PC games, in general. What I did was really about as close as it gets.

http://tasvideos.org/3343S.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 12, 2013, 04:58:31 pm
Given that my VVVVVV PB (18:50) is 6 minutes over the TAS time (12:33), that difference doesn't seem too bad.

I've lost interest in getting my time much lower. When I installed an update for my computer, it had the side effect of causing slowdown in around half of the levels. It doesn't affect the in-game timer, but it makes running those sections a lot more annoying.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 12, 2013, 05:26:40 pm
You can't TAS PC games, in general. What I did was really about as close as it gets.

http://tasvideos.org/3343S.html

Please note the words 'in general'. Specific games can be done, but only if bespoked software is available for them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 12, 2013, 05:38:55 pm
Ran into Jack Black and the rest of Tenacious D on the street yesterday.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 12, 2013, 06:22:15 pm
Ran into Jack Black and the rest of Tenacious D on the street yesterday.

What
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 12, 2013, 06:30:18 pm
Ran into Jack Black and the rest of Tenacious D on the street yesterday.

What

They were walking down the street to play frisbee with who I can only assume are KG's kids.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 12, 2013, 07:20:13 pm
You can't TAS PC games, in general. What I did was really about as close as it gets.

http://tasvideos.org/3343S.html

Please note the words 'in general'. Specific games can be done, but only if bespoked software is available for them.

The program used for it was made to do PC games, but it doesn't work for many.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 13, 2013, 06:19:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZNM0ENUCO5I

This made me smile.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on May 13, 2013, 09:16:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZNM0ENUCO5I

This made me smile.

Oh my gosh how awesome is that!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 13, 2013, 10:07:16 pm
And for the three of you who haven't seen it, Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield singing Space Oddity in the first music video recorded in space:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo

Caution: apparently directed by JJ Abrams; lens flare is apparently unavoidable in real space as well as fictional space.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 14, 2013, 01:59:20 am
Oh man!

I decided to practice the biggest skip in VVVVVV (it skips an entire level, but if you mess up the trick you have to restart the entire game.) Got it consistent enough to where I felt comfortable using it in a run, and got a 16:58 (almost a 2 minute improvement) with very sloppy execution on the rest of the run.

It feels a bit like cheating, since the level the glitch skips is by far my worst level in the game, but time is time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 15, 2013, 12:39:27 am
New board game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oOD9U9VQ5Y
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 15, 2013, 02:21:30 am
And for the three of you who haven't seen it, Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield singing Space Oddity in the first music video recorded in space:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo

Further reading (http://what-if.xkcd.com/45/)

Quote
both the ISS and the US highway system are used for things other than making music videos.[citation needed]
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on May 15, 2013, 02:57:16 pm
We need some real (http://xkcd.com/1210/) random stuff here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 15, 2013, 03:15:07 pm
We need some real (http://xkcd.com/1210/) random stuff here.

Real Random? http://dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/

Edit: Bonus points if you get 221...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 16, 2013, 10:41:34 am
I only wish that this is not from a closed thread; I'd post this there instead.

Quote
Quote
I give you a new random and likely irrational number

I feel like this is going to be hard to implement

This is an easy task.

Roll a 4-sided die.

If 1, choose e
If 2, choose pi
If 3, choose square root of 2
If 4, choose 1

Most likely, you'll randomly get an irrational number.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on May 16, 2013, 11:17:50 am
I only wish that this is not from a closed thread; I'd post this there instead.

Quote
Quote
I give you a new random and likely irrational number

I feel like this is going to be hard to implement

This is an easy task.

Roll a 4-sided die.

If 1, choose e
If 2, choose pi
If 3, choose square root of 2
If 4, choose 1

Most likely, you'll randomly get an irrational number.

Had the thread not been locked, I was going to reply with "I just choose whatever integer I feel like choosing, and then take the square root of it."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 16, 2013, 11:58:45 am
Roll 2d6.  Multiply the numbers together.  Take the square root.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 16, 2013, 11:59:58 am
Roll 2d6.  Multiply the numbers together.  Take the square root.
Rolled 2d6 : 1, 1, total 2
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 16, 2013, 12:00:25 pm
Roll 2d6.  Multiply the numbers together.  Take the square root.
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 2d6 : 1, 1, total 2
1 * 1 = 1, square root is 1.  HA!

And, no, I didn't plan that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 16, 2013, 12:09:17 pm
But if you get a perfect square, then you are left with a rational number.

I suppose you could generate a random integer and then run an algorithm.

If square root is rational, then use cube root. If cube root is rational, then…

Of course, you're screwed if your random integer happens to be 0 or 1. Negative numbers could cause problems too, but you can error-trap that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 16, 2013, 12:13:37 pm
But if you get a perfect square, then you are left with a rational number.

I suppose you could generate a random integer and then run an algorithm.

If square root is rational, then use cube root. If cube root is rational, then…

Of course, you're screwed if your random integer happens to be 0 or 1. Negative numbers could cause problems too, but you can error-trap that.

Code: [Select]
if num == 0 or num == 1
num = num + 2
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on May 16, 2013, 12:21:53 pm
But if you get a perfect square, then you are left with a rational number.

I suppose you could generate a random integer and then run an algorithm.

If square root is rational, then use cube root. If cube root is rational, then…

Of course, you're screwed if your random integer happens to be 0 or 1. Negative numbers could cause problems too, but you can error-trap that.

Ah, but I would still likely get an irrational. Assuming of course, that I don't lean towards choosing perfect squares.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 16, 2013, 12:44:25 pm
Fine:  Roll 4d6.  Put the digits in numerical order.  Take the cube root.  There, always irrational.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 16, 2013, 12:52:12 pm
Rolled 4d6 : 5, 4, 2, 2, total 13
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 16, 2013, 01:00:24 pm
Fine:  Roll 4d6.  Put the digits in numerical order.  Take the cube root.  There, always irrational.
Roll d6, multiply with 7, square root.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 16, 2013, 01:20:30 pm
Fine:  Roll 4d6.  Put the digits in numerical order.  Take the cube root.  There, always irrational.
But being likely irrational is enough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 16, 2013, 02:03:17 pm
Fine:  Roll 4d6.  Put the digits in numerical order.  Take the cube root.  There, always irrational.
Roll d6, multiply with 7, square root.
Get integer randomly.  Multiply with irrational number.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 16, 2013, 02:19:58 pm
Fine:  Roll 4d6.  Put the digits in numerical order.  Take the cube root.  There, always irrational.
Roll d6, multiply with 7, square root.
Get integer randomly.  Multiply with irrational number.

:O
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 16, 2013, 02:21:17 pm
Get integer randomly. Add irrational number.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 16, 2013, 02:23:26 pm
Fine:  Roll 4d6.  Put the digits in numerical order.  Take the cube root.  There, always irrational.
Roll d6, multiply with 7, square root.
Get integer randomly.  Multiply with irrational number.
doesn't work. 0 is an integer., but 0*i=0 isn't irrational for any irriational number i.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 16, 2013, 02:36:16 pm
Fine:  Roll 4d6.  Put the digits in numerical order.  Take the cube root.  There, always irrational.
Roll d6, multiply with 7, square root.
Get integer randomly.  Multiply with irrational number.
doesn't work. 0 is an integer., but 0*i=0 isn't irrational for any irriational number i.
Stupid zero ruining everything.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 16, 2013, 02:50:12 pm
Get integer randomly. Add irrational number.

This works for zero.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 16, 2013, 02:54:41 pm
Get integer randomly. Add irrational number.

This works for zero.
Like I said, zero ruining everything, even my comment about it ruining everything.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on May 16, 2013, 03:21:52 pm
Exercise: show that there exist irrationals a and b such that ab is rational.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on May 16, 2013, 03:23:28 pm
So Break of Reality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break_of_Reality) is pretty good, huh?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on May 16, 2013, 03:26:36 pm
Exercise: show that there exist irrationals a and b such that ab is rational.

Let a be any irrational number. Choose ab to be a2 + 1. Then, b must be irrational. QED.

If this were actually a math assignment question, I'd add a bit more formal logic, but this isn't, so I won't. You can probably see the idea though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 16, 2013, 04:11:44 pm
Exercise: show that there exist irrationals a and b such that ab is rational.

Let a be any irrational number. Choose ab to be a2 + 1. Then, b must be irrational. QED.

If this were actually a math assignment question, I'd add a bit more formal logic, but this isn't, so I won't. You can probably see the idea though.
eln(2) = 2

edit: Also, I don't believe that a^b = a^2 + 1 implies b irrational for irrational a.  Take b=3, that is equivalent to a^3-a^2-1=0, which has a solution because third order polynomial, and I doubt that the solution is rational.
edit2: OK, WolframAlpha gives the solution and its irrational.
edit3: But you can save the argument by assuming a is transcendent, because this implies that a is not a solution of x^b-x^2-1=0 for rational b (because that would imply that a is algebraic).
edit4: weakened the statement a bit.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on May 16, 2013, 04:38:28 pm
eln(2) = 2

The trouble then is to show that log 2 is irrational.  You'd be amazed if it wasn't, but it's not obvious.

There's a fun argument that gives existence easily, but isn't constructive.

First you try √2√2.  If it's rational, you're done.  If it's irrational, then (√2√2)√2 = (√2)2 = 2.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on May 17, 2013, 01:33:10 am
Exercise: show that there exist irrationals a and b such that ab is rational.
Not as elegant as your solution:

Observe that sqrt(2) ^ (2 * log_2(3)) = 3.

Let's assume we know sqrt(2) is irrational already. Claim: log_2(3) is irrational. Pf: Otherwise, there would exist positive integers p,q such that 2^(p/q) = 3, so 2^p = 3^q, which is impossible by unique prime factorization.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 17, 2013, 02:11:44 am
eln(2) = 2
The trouble then is to show that log 2 is irrational.  You'd be amazed if it wasn't, but it's not obvious.

If you know e is transcendent it's clear, but of course that proof isn't easy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 17, 2013, 02:52:46 am
eln(2) = 2
The trouble then is to show that log 2 is irrational.  You'd be amazed if it wasn't, but it's not obvious.

If you know e is transcendent it's clear, but of course that proof isn't easy.

If you want to start with proof that e is transcendent, you need to invent the universe first.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 17, 2013, 03:26:48 am
eln(2) = 2
The trouble then is to show that log 2 is irrational.  You'd be amazed if it wasn't, but it's not obvious.

If you know e is transcendent it's clear, but of course that proof isn't easy.

If you want to start with proof that e is transcendent, you need to invent the universe first.
Don't understand.  But another one:
Take a^f(a)=2, where f(a) is defined implicitly by that equation.  Obviously, f(a) is strictly decreasing in a, and therefore injective.  In particular, the set {f(a)| a irrational} is uncountable. Therefore, they can't be all rational, and there exists a pair (a,f(a)) s.t. a,f(a) are irrational and a^f(a)=2.

Edit: ... which is just the unconstructive way of saying "Replace e with an arbitrary transcendent number in the argumenr e^log_e(2)=2"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 17, 2013, 07:10:45 am
This proof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAISUDbjXj0) is the most elegant I have ever seen. Guy's a genius.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 17, 2013, 07:15:31 am
This proof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAISUDbjXj0) is the most elegant I have ever seen. Guy's a genius.

Yup, gotta make me understand...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 17, 2013, 02:38:53 pm
Didn't let me down.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on May 17, 2013, 02:55:09 pm
eln(2) = 2

The trouble then is to show that log 2 is irrational.  You'd be amazed if it wasn't, but it's not obvious.

There's a fun argument that gives existence easily, but isn't constructive.

First you try √2√2.  If it's rational, you're done.  If it's irrational, then (√2√2)√2 = (√2)2 = 2.

Actually, (√2√2)√2 is NOT the same thing as (√2)2. You want √2(√2√2)

Or maybe that's the thing you intended - but the parentheses placement is important here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on May 17, 2013, 03:04:17 pm
eln(2) = 2

The trouble then is to show that log 2 is irrational.  You'd be amazed if it wasn't, but it's not obvious.

There's a fun argument that gives existence easily, but isn't constructive.

First you try √2√2.  If it's rational, you're done.  If it's irrational, then (√2√2)√2 = (√2)2 = 2.

Actually, (√2√2)√2 is NOT the same thing as (√2)2. You want √2(√2√2)

Or maybe that's the thing you intended - but the parentheses placement is important here.

No, qmech is right.

(√2√2)√2=√2√2*√2=2.

But you are correct that parenthesis placement is important.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on May 17, 2013, 03:44:22 pm
eln(2) = 2

The trouble then is to show that log 2 is irrational.  You'd be amazed if it wasn't, but it's not obvious.

There's a fun argument that gives existence easily, but isn't constructive.

First you try √2√2.  If it's rational, you're done.  If it's irrational, then (√2√2)√2 = (√2)2 = 2.

Actually, (√2√2)√2 is NOT the same thing as (√2)2. You want √2(√2√2)

Or maybe that's the thing you intended - but the parentheses placement is important here.

No, qmech is right.

(√2√2)√2=√2√2*√2=2.

But you are correct that parenthesis placement is important.

Hrmm, 'course he's right. How did I read that as the other thing. Probably just a mis-wired brain.
Apologies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 17, 2013, 05:34:38 pm
Exercise: show that there exist irrationals a and b such that ab is rational.

I was going to produce an elegant, non-consntructive solution, but then noticed you'd already posted the same one. Bah.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 20, 2013, 08:19:46 pm
I played a game of Dominion with Celestial Chameleon this weekend. I wanted to come back and brag about how I beat him, but he won (although both of us agreed, it wasn't the most interesting kingdom - still enough decisions to give the better player an advantage, but not enough that it's really decisive). Still it was nice to see him again, and the game was great fun, mainly because of the comments he was making - e.g. something along the lines of "My [opening cards] fell to turn 5, which was a big disadvantage, and stopped me emptying the supply as well."

As another totally unrelated topic, I've finally gotten some recording software. For now I'm recording You Have to Win the Game, but I may do some Dominion videos at some point. For now though, I'm only 6 seconds off the world record (http://www.twitch.tv/tables61/c/2311944)... and lost maybe 2-3 seconds because I was trying to mess around with WSplit. I wanted an at least decent run, I wasn't expecting something THAT good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 21, 2013, 07:50:00 am
Just broke the 20,000 points mark on Kongregate. Thanks Snail Bob!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 21, 2013, 12:14:35 pm
You're so vain; you probably think this post is about you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 21, 2013, 04:06:54 pm
You are now breathing manually.

Have fun for the next minute or so.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 21, 2013, 04:16:13 pm
You are now breathing manually.

Have fun for the next minute or so.

You are now aware that when you swallow, there is a popping sound in your ears.

You now know how heavy your head is.

You now know that you can see your nose.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 21, 2013, 04:19:03 pm
You are now aware that when you swallow, there is a popping sound in your ears.

I had never noticed this before in my life. I am now complete.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 21, 2013, 04:20:22 pm
But on the bright side, it's not tongue awareness month until November.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 21, 2013, 04:21:07 pm
My tongue is comfortable.  That's why I didn't say it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 21, 2013, 04:44:29 pm
You are now breathing manually.

Have fun for the next minute or so.

You are now aware that when you swallow, there is a popping sound in your ears.

You now know how heavy your head is.

You now know that you can see your nose.

You are now blinking manually.

You are now aware that your clothes are touching your body.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on May 21, 2013, 05:07:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/72Ghh.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on May 21, 2013, 07:53:20 pm

I tried to report this post to a moderator, but the button just laughed at me.  :-[
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 21, 2013, 08:16:49 pm
Posit:  the best part of the 11th Doctor's action theme is the swingy oboe riff that sounds completely out of place in a minor key but fits anyway.  Discuss.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on May 22, 2013, 09:29:54 am
This proof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAISUDbjXj0) is the most elegant I have ever seen. Guy's a genius.

I thought that nice man was going to get to the proof eventually, but after a whole hour he didn't!  I don't think your link is correct, tinas.  There wasn't much in the way of mathematical proof there in that presentation, elegant or otherwise.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 22, 2013, 09:39:08 am
This proof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAISUDbjXj0) is the most elegant I have ever seen. Guy's a genius.

I thought that nice man was going to get to the proof eventually, but after a whole hour he didn't!  I don't think your link is correct, tinas.  There wasn't much in the way of mathematical proof there in that presentation, elegant or otherwise.

Are you saying he let you down? I don't think he did.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 22, 2013, 10:01:40 am
Netflix has just let its contract with Nickelodeon run out completely.  No Dora or Diego for the kids on Netflix.

Suddenly, we decided to try Amazon Prime and might drop Netflix.  Coincidence?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 22, 2013, 04:20:31 pm
Posit:  the best part of the 11th Doctor's action theme is the swingy oboe riff that sounds completely out of place in a minor key but fits anyway.  Discuss.

I have not seen Doctor Who.

However, I have seen the Doctor Who/Ponies crossover audio play, which is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on May 22, 2013, 04:52:46 pm
You saw an audio play?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 22, 2013, 06:00:07 pm
You saw an audio play?

It's primarily audio driven, but it's accompanied by a slideshow of still images that match the audio. The first couple of episodes were also fully animated by a fan of the series.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 24, 2013, 05:02:35 pm
http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/2013/05/24/490-the-truth-about-zebes/

Robz seems like the only one who would appreciate this...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 24, 2013, 06:32:30 pm
Robz seems like the only one who would appreciate this...
???
Who do you think we are?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 24, 2013, 07:07:58 pm
I've seen him post a lot of old-school Nintendo songs for things...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 24, 2013, 08:54:02 pm
I saw Zebes in the title and thought 'huh, well, it's clearly not going to be Metroid related but oh well'. Then I clicked on it. Kinda of amusing comic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 29, 2013, 03:56:57 pm
http://en.akinator.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on May 29, 2013, 04:03:44 pm
I remember that one!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 29, 2013, 04:47:12 pm
This will probably fall on deaf ears, but the two Doctor Who/Ponies crossover audio plays are so excellent. Doctor Whooves & Assistant references the ponies canon much more, and is pretty light in tone. Doctor Whooves Adventures borrows more from Doctor Who, and is considerably darker. Both are very well done, but you will probably like Adventures more if you are not a fan of ponies.

Also, I think I'm done with speedrunning VVVVVV any%. I got a time of 15:46 around a week ago, with 31 unintended deaths. I haven't been able to beat it ever since, and the closest I've gotten is 15:49. 31 extra deaths sounds like a lot, but I don't think I'll beat that time unless I start practicing certain rooms very heavily. I'm planning to do some 100% runs until I get a time I'm satisfied with, and then I'm done.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 29, 2013, 04:56:16 pm
http://en.akinator.com/

Interesting.  It guessed Kivrin Engle instead of Verity Kindle; I would not have expected it to get either one.  I suppose I could go more obscure...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 29, 2013, 05:03:28 pm
It didn't get Donald X or lespeutere.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on May 29, 2013, 05:04:16 pm
It did identify Blitzcrank.  Beep boop.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 29, 2013, 05:17:24 pm
This thing is so fascinating.
"Is your character a woman?" - Yes
"Is your character married to a famous woman" - Well, probably not.

But in the end it still gets it mostly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 29, 2013, 05:26:22 pm
It did identify Blitzcrank.  Beep boop.
Stumped by Trogdor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 29, 2013, 05:38:22 pm
It did identify Blitzcrank.  Beep boop.
Stumped by Trogdor.

That's kinda pathetic.  Trogdor is iconic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 29, 2013, 06:13:59 pm
It didn't get Donald X or lespeutere.

I already tried Donald X., and I told it to add it...  (If you stump it you can say to add it and then the mods will add it if they want)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 29, 2013, 06:36:32 pm
Is your character white? Yes
Does your character have very dark skin? Uh, no.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 29, 2013, 07:06:43 pm
It did identify Blitzcrank.  Beep boop.
Stumped by Trogdor.

That's kinda pathetic.  Trogdor is iconic.
I mean he *eventually* got it, but it took 30 or so questions and a misguess.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 29, 2013, 07:19:03 pm
It did identify Blitzcrank.  Beep boop.
Stumped by Trogdor.

That's kinda pathetic.  Trogdor is iconic.
I mean he *eventually* got it, but it took 30 or so questions and a misguess.

Oh... Gotcha.

Most of mine have taken at least 50 questions and at least one missed guess.  Lazarus Long took it 50 questions, it was completely stumped by D. D. Harriman--and "The Man Who Sold the Moon" ought not to be that obscure (but obviously is)--though it's amusing that it tried to guess both Carnegie and Ford for his character, two men who definitely influenced the character's depiction, after asking multiple times if it was a real person.

It was able to get Santiago Ramon y Cajal in 75 after guessing Niels Bohr and another scientist.  I was impressed that it got Rosalind Franklin in under 50 questions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 29, 2013, 07:31:59 pm
I'm impressed it found Lonesome George from the questions it asked.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Grujah on May 29, 2013, 08:07:39 pm
He's finds a specific professor from my uni. I knew of him for quite long, haven't tested him recently though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 30, 2013, 12:58:02 am
He's finds a specific professor from my uni. I knew of him for quite long, haven't tested him recently though.

...Wow.  And when I do real life people that I know, I get things like "your brother", and "your best friend" and such.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 30, 2013, 01:10:17 am
Also, as soon as I saw "Akinator" I immediately read it in the voice of Dr. Heinz Doofenschmirz.  (Which it was able to get in ~30 questions).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 30, 2013, 02:49:33 am
Hey, where's Perry?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 30, 2013, 03:06:41 am
Regular Show is my life immediately after college.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 01, 2013, 01:03:07 am
Got an okayish run of 22:53 for VVVVVV 100%. I also tried recording it, which was generally a success. The video is up at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrlVBCDL1-Q
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 01, 2013, 01:36:57 am
Got an okayish run of 22:53 for VVVVVV 100%. I also tried recording it, which was generally a success. The video is up at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrlVBCDL1-Q

Quote
This video is private.

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 01, 2013, 01:52:00 am
Got an okayish run of 22:53 for VVVVVV 100%. I also tried recording it, which was generally a success. The video is up at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrlVBCDL1-Q

Quote
This video is private.

Sorry about that.

I have no idea how that happened. It should work now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on June 01, 2013, 11:50:40 am
It's a very private matter...I don't like talking about it much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 05, 2013, 02:42:09 pm
I was helping someone with something on her computer. I scrolled up and down several times, and the screen was full of high-contrast images. The onlookers were getting nauseated and remarked on how they can't understand how I could just do that.

Now that I'm back at my desk, I'm feeling nauseated as well, but I dare not say a word of it for fear I'll lose my street cred. Okay, not street.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 05, 2013, 06:19:26 pm
Why is it that whenever I think I did well, I actually did poorly, and whenever I think I did horribly I did well?

I thought I had the worst VVVVVV speedrun ever, and then I beat my time by 10 seconds. I don't understand anymore.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 05, 2013, 08:40:55 pm
interesting maps of American pronunciation (http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps-that-show-the-deepest-linguistic-conflicts-in-america-2013-6?op=1)

FWIW...

I prefer "caramel" with 3 syllables, but I can use both interchangeably
I don't know why they call it a "Canadian" way of pronouncing "been", because I pronounce it closer to the red version (like "sit")
I don't know what a bowie knife is
crayon -- rhymes with dawn
loyer
coleslaw
you guys
3 syllables for mayonnaise
pajamas like jam
I honestly don't know for "Pecan pie"... I think I'm closest to "PEE-can" but I actually emphasize both syllables
pop
I use crawfish or crayfish but I never really talk about them, so.
I use traffic circle usually, sometime roundabout.
Interestingly, I pronounce it "sear-up" which seems to be in the minority in the states.
sub
water fountain
sneakers
highway
sunshower
I don't really recognize any city as "The City"
never heard of drive-through liquor stores; that actually sounds like a terrible and dangerous idea.
all 3 of merry/marry/Mary are the same
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 05, 2013, 09:25:38 pm
Wait, there are drive-through liquor stores? And they're called brew-thrus?

What? I don't even know what to say.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on June 05, 2013, 09:39:07 pm
Oh yeah, Atlanta's got drive-through liquor stores.  I've never actually driven through though, maybe I should try sometime.  Also, all liquor stores are called 'package stores'.  Because god-fearing southerners wouldn't drink liquor, but if they bought a 'package' and it were filled with liquid...well, then one would be obliged to make sure that liquid didn't go to waste.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on June 06, 2013, 01:56:49 pm
I like the "no open container" laws that let you buy a margarita in a drive-thru, as long as they leave the top of the straw paper on the straw they've inserted into the margarita for you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on June 11, 2013, 11:42:19 am
Conjecture: 'Macabre' is an incredibly pretentious word.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 16, 2013, 10:49:18 am
While walking through a footpath that had overgrown, my housemate (yes, that one) decided we should trash the footpath so we could draw a card. I groaned.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 16, 2013, 06:25:53 pm
While walking through a footpath that had overgrown, my housemate (yes, that one) decided we should trash the footpath so we could draw a card. I groaned.

And afterwards you suggested a card called overgrown King's Court: Choose no action cards, play them 3 times.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 16, 2013, 06:33:55 pm
I think you'll find Overgrown King's Court was:

YOU MAY choose no action card from your hand. Play it three times.
---
When you trash this, +1 card.

It's probably worth about $6 (a little worse than King's Court, but better with T4B)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on June 16, 2013, 09:25:41 pm
I MAY choose no action card from my hand? I decline. I don't choose no action card from my hand, therefore, I do choose an action card for my hand. I play it three times. So hey, this is just like king's court!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 17, 2013, 01:28:25 am
I MAY choose no action card from my hand? I decline. I don't choose no action card from my hand, therefore, I do choose an action card for my hand. I play it three times. So hey, this is just like king's court!
But this is actually way better than King's Court, since it doesn't say you can choose only one card.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 18, 2013, 09:28:39 am
Why you don't leave your wireless printer unsecured.  Complete with Dominion connection!

http://imgur.com/2GIhXc7
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on June 18, 2013, 01:10:22 pm
I think there's probably something like Godwin's Law for the Rules Questions subforum only instead of nazi comparisons it's hypothetical cards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on June 18, 2013, 01:58:59 pm
I think that there's an analog of Godwin's law for all Dominion-related threads on f.ds, but instead of nazi comparisons it's edgecases.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 18, 2013, 06:34:31 pm
I MAY choose no action card from my hand? I decline. I don't choose no action card from my hand, therefore, I do choose an action card for my hand. I play it three times. So hey, this is just like king's court!

Objection! Being given the option to choose no action doesn't imply that you also have the option to choose more than one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on June 18, 2013, 06:46:15 pm
I MAY choose no action card from my hand? I decline. I don't choose no action card from my hand, therefore, I do choose an action card for my hand. I play it three times. So hey, this is just like king's court!

Objection! Being given the option to choose no action doesn't imply that you also have the option to choose more than one.

Fixed version of your post (http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=6747377)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 18, 2013, 07:36:42 pm
Trust a lawyer to use the Phoenix Wright website.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 18, 2013, 08:09:46 pm
I think that there's an analog of Godwin's law for all Dominion-related threads on f.ds, but instead of nazi comparisons it's edgecases.

At one time this was Rrenaud's law.  With Iso closed now, though, that's obviously no longer the case.  I think "Edge Cases" is the new "Iso is Shutting Down!"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on June 18, 2013, 08:13:39 pm
I think that there's an analog of Godwin's law for all Dominion-related threads on f.ds, but instead of nazi comparisons it's edgecases.

At one time this was Rrenaud's law.  With Iso closed now, though, that's obviously no longer the case.  I think "Edge Cases" is the new "Iso is Shutting Down!"
Iso is shutting down??!!??!!??!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on June 18, 2013, 08:14:48 pm
I think that there's an analog of Godwin's law for all Dominion-related threads on f.ds, but instead of nazi comparisons it's edgecases.

At one time this was Rrenaud's law.  With Iso closed now, though, that's obviously no longer the case.  I think "Edge Cases" is the new "Iso is Shutting Down!"
Iso is shutting down??!!??!!??!!
But then where will we play Innovation??!!??!!??!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 19, 2013, 12:33:07 am
I think that there's an analog of Godwin's law for all Dominion-related threads on f.ds, but instead of nazi comparisons it's edgecases.

At one time this was Rrenaud's law.  With Iso closed now, though, that's obviously no longer the case.  I think "Edge Cases" is the new "Iso is Shutting Down!"
Iso is shutting down??!!??!!??!!
But then where will we play Innovation??!!??!!??!!

What's Innovation??!??!??
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 19, 2013, 12:34:23 am
I think that there's an analog of Godwin's law for all Dominion-related threads on f.ds, but instead of nazi comparisons it's edgecases.

At one time this was Rrenaud's law.  With Iso closed now, though, that's obviously no longer the case.  I think "Edge Cases" is the new "Iso is Shutting Down!"
Iso is shutting down??!!??!!??!!
But then where will we play Innovation??!!??!!??!!

What's Innovation??!??!??
"Innovate" is a word?!?!?!?!?!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 21, 2013, 11:28:07 am
There will be no sunset tonight!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 21, 2013, 11:51:45 am
There will be no sunset tonight!

Where are you?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 21, 2013, 12:07:59 pm
I've never been farther north than just into Canada.

I cannot even fathom living on a parallel where day or night lasts so long (or short). And 24 hours of sunlight would drive me bonkers, I think (but then, so would 24 hours of night).

But it's probably just because I'm not used to it. I would probably go a little nuts living on the Equator too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 21, 2013, 12:24:40 pm
There will be no sunset tonight!

Where are you?
Finland, luckily south enough that the "nightless night" lasts for just one night.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 21, 2013, 04:15:22 pm
There will be no sunset tonight!

Where are you?
Finland, luckily south enough that the "nightless night" lasts for just one night.
I spent a few summer weeks in Alaska when I was younger.  So strange for it to be 10pm and yet still have enough daylight for it to be 3 in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on June 21, 2013, 09:44:03 pm
There will be no sunset tonight!

Where are you?
Finland, luckily south enough that the "nightless night" lasts for just one night.
I wouldn't consider that lucky. Man Finland is just absolutely gorgeous during the summer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on June 21, 2013, 09:53:45 pm
The furthest north I've ever been is Trondheim, Norway.  It was in mid-August though, so the sun did set for a few hours.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 21, 2013, 10:38:31 pm
The furthest north I've ever been is Seattle.  I won't count a two-hour layover in Ireland.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 24, 2013, 02:28:33 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jldcZLpMdt0

My recording + game lag issues seem to have gone away. I may record some Dominion videos, but for now here's more VVVVVV. 15:06 with plenty of mistakes. I know I can get the sub-15 with just solid play, but it's nice to start beating my old times again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 25, 2013, 03:02:47 pm
I am jacked up on sugar higher than a car in a redneck's front yard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on June 25, 2013, 03:16:44 pm
I'm reading some rather dull physics papers on how curling stones curl.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 25, 2013, 03:41:55 pm
Reading the Utah Drivers Licence handbook. Boring.

But I'm gonna get my permit in a month or so!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 25, 2013, 08:32:46 pm
Reading the Utah Drivers Licence handbook. Boring.

But I'm gonna get my permit in a month or so!

I am so old.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on June 25, 2013, 08:33:47 pm
I think in this case, it's more that mail-mi is one of the youngest members of this forum.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 25, 2013, 08:54:18 pm
Checked the variant cards forum on BGG for the first time in a while. I noticed someone posted variant cards a few days ago.  Reading through the thread I saw someone comment on all the cards and I fully agreed with most of what they said. Turns out it was my post from two years ago, and the thread had been necro'd. Hmm.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 25, 2013, 10:21:56 pm
I think in this case, it's more that mail-mi is one of the youngest members of this forum.
Check the "how old are you" topic. There's a lot of yungun's like me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 25, 2013, 11:44:32 pm
I can get my permit in September. I'm taking Driver's Ed right now, which is quite possibly the boringest class ever.
List of young people, young to still pretty young (roughly):
Vermillion
StrongRhino
mail-mi
Archetype
sudgy
heron
brokoli
Awaclus
Titandrake

The middle three I am guessing for.

Editing. um, I already gave my birth date in a convoluted form, but are you turning 16 before december? Or are you already 16?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 25, 2013, 11:51:41 pm
I can get my permit in September. I'm taking Driver's Ed right now, which is quite possibly the boringest class ever.
List of young people, young to still pretty young (roughly):
StrongRhino
mail-mi
sudgy
Archetype
heron
Awaclus
Titandrake

The middle three I am guessing for.

I'm older than Arch, not sure about you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on June 26, 2013, 12:06:27 am
Vermillion is younger than SR and sudgy is indeed older than me.

I haven't taken drivers Ed yet, but I don't really want to. I'm in walking distance of a convenient store, the high school, movie theatre, church, and the majority of my friends' houses. So I don't really feel the need to get my license, but I'll get around to it eventually.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 26, 2013, 12:09:11 am
Vermillion is younger than SR and sudgy is indeed older than me.

I haven't taken drivers Ed yet, but I don't really want to. I'm in walking distance of a convenient store, the high school, movie theatre, church, and the majority of my friends' houses. So I don't really feel the need to get my license, but I'll get around to it eventually.

Hehe, other than things I don't care about (high school as I'm homeschooled and a movie theater), the only one of those that isn't within walking distance is my friends' houses...  But I'm still planning on getting my permit soon...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 26, 2013, 12:12:20 am
I'm not sure Vermillion is actually 12, even though he seems a tad immature.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 26, 2013, 03:01:48 am
What do you actually have to do to get a driving license in the US of A? Over here you have to get a provisional license when you are 17, then take 1 to 1 lessons (in a car) with an instructor. You have to pass a "theory test" which is basically in an exam room with questions like "what does this road sign mean" and also has a video part where you have to identify potential hazards as early as possible. Once you pass your theory test you are permitted to take a "practical test" within 2 years, in which you go out in a car with an examiner. They tell you where to go and you do it, and they mark you (quite strictly) on it. You fail for committing 14 "minor offenses" (like not checking your mirrors enough) or even a single "major offense" (speeding, pulling out without looking, etc.)

Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on June 26, 2013, 03:27:43 am
Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.

Yeah, that's basically it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 26, 2013, 03:41:42 am
Wow. Letting 16 year olds loose on the road with 0 experience is the worst thing I could possibly think of.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 26, 2013, 03:53:40 am
I don't know about other states of the USA, but in California, here's how it goes.

At 15.5 years old, you are allowed to take the written test. I believe it's not required to take a course, but I'm not sure. If you pass the written test, you get a permit, which lasts for a year. That permit lets you drive as long as you have a parent in the car with you. After you have your permit for a minimum of 6 months, you are eligible to take the driving test. It's about as strict as Thisisnotasmile says (you're allowed a few minor offenses, but 1 major offense is auto fail.) If you pass that, then you get your license. (This is why the permit is allowed at 15 and a half; it means you can get a full license right when you turn 16.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on June 26, 2013, 04:03:44 am
I'm not sure Vermillion is actually 12, even though he seems a tad immature.
Eh, yeah. He is. After watching one of his Dominion Videos, he could pass as a 12 year old. I didn't see him on there, but brokoli is 17.

I don't know about other states of the USA, but in California, here's how it goes.

At 15.5 years old, you are allowed to take the written test. I believe it's not required to take a course, but I'm not sure. If you pass the written test, you get a permit, which lasts for a year. That permit lets you drive as long as you have a parent in the car with you. After you have your permit for a minimum of 6 months, you are eligible to take the driving test. It's about as strict as Thisisnotasmile says (you're allowed a few minor offenses, but 1 major offense is auto fail.) If you pass that, then you get your license. (This is why the permit is allowed at 15 and a half; it means you can get a full license right when you turn 16.)
This sounds a lot like how it is in Idaho. Its certainly not as strict as European driving tests, but it's not like you can just watch "Cars", fill out a bubble sheet, and they'll hand you your license.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on June 26, 2013, 07:57:29 am
Every state has their own rules. The ones I am aware of, generally you can get a full license at 16, but have to have had some experience with a 'permit' for some period of time before (which is first available sometime between 14 and 16). The permit thing is actually a driver's license, mind you, but it has a restriction on it that says that whoever it is can't drive without a front-seat passenger of at least age X with Y years of driving experience (doesn't necessarily have to be a parent). And... yeah, after they get their permit, they can just drive, as long as they have the supervision. I think after 18 in most places you can just go get a license, no permit, no time, whatever. Also, you can get things younger in 'hardship' cases where people need a license to get an income to support their family. Don't know what's involved with that. Some places I think you have to take a class, but in some places you can be parent-taught, which just means your parents sign a piece of paper saying that they've taught you - it's not that uncommon that they really don't.......
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 26, 2013, 08:02:40 am
It's been 25 years since I first got my license (in Missouri).

What happened for me is that I applied for a learner's permit, which allowed me to drive during the day only if a licensed driver was in the passenger seat. I then applied for my license. I had a vision test, which also tested my knowledge my signs. I had a written test with some relevant questions but also questions that drivers promptly forget, like what is the closest distance to an oncoming car before you have to turn down your high beams. Then I had a driving test, which meant an instructor was checking things off a list. It was on a 100-point scale. I think minimum passing at the time was 70%. I barely got above that on my first time. It was actually fairly common for kids to take the driving test multiple times.

I did take Driver's Ed, which didn't really help me all that much. It did, however, provide a discount for my automobile insurance.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on June 26, 2013, 09:17:16 am
Yay South Dakota!  I got a Learner's Permit back when I was 14, which involves all that complicated "person of reasonable age in passenger seat" stuff.  Then 90 days later, a Restricted License, which basically allows one to drive without supervision and all, but with some sort of curfew attached.  Never had to take driver's Ed either, just pass a written exam.  Neato.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 26, 2013, 11:54:06 am
In Oregon, you take a written test at at least 15, get a permit, and when you are 16, have had your permit for at least half a year, an have 100 hours of driving experience (or 50 if you took Driver's Ed), you can take another written test and a driving test and then you have your license.  At younger ages, you can only drive family, six months later three other passengers, six months later anybody.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on June 26, 2013, 11:55:38 am
In Oregon, you take a written test at at least 15, get a permit, and when you are 16, have had your permit for at least half a year, an have 100 hours of driving experience (or 50 if you took Driver's Ed), you can take another written test and a driving test and then you have your license.  At younger ages, you can only drive family, six months later three other passengers, six months later anybody.

Woah woah are you in Oregon? (I am in Oregon even though I've never filled in my spot in the member's map)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 26, 2013, 12:08:37 pm
In Oregon, you take a written test at at least 15, get a permit, and when you are 16, have had your permit for at least half a year, an have 100 hours of driving experience (or 50 if you took Driver's Ed), you can take another written test and a driving test and then you have your license.  At younger ages, you can only drive family, six months later three other passengers, six months later anybody.

Woah woah are you in Oregon? (I am in Oregon even though I've never filled in my spot in the member's map)

Haha, I haven't filled in my spot either...  Yeah, I'm in Oregon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on June 26, 2013, 12:35:17 pm
In Oregon, you take a written test at at least 15, get a permit, and when you are 16, have had your permit for at least half a year, an have 100 hours of driving experience (or 50 if you took Driver's Ed), you can take another written test and a driving test and then you have your license.  At younger ages, you can only drive family, six months later three other passengers, six months later anybody.

Woah woah are you in Oregon? (I am in Oregon even though I've never filled in my spot in the member's map)

Haha, I haven't filled in my spot either...  Yeah, I'm in Oregon.

Cool!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 26, 2013, 01:03:30 pm
What do you actually have to do to get a driving license in the US of A? Over here you have to get a provisional license when you are 17, then take 1 to 1 lessons (in a car) with an instructor. You have to pass a "theory test" which is basically in an exam room with questions like "what does this road sign mean" and also has a video part where you have to identify potential hazards as early as possible. Once you pass your theory test you are permitted to take a "practical test" within 2 years, in which you go out in a car with an examiner. They tell you where to go and you do it, and they mark you (quite strictly) on it. You fail for committing 14 "minor offenses" (like not checking your mirrors enough) or even a single "major offense" (speeding, pulling out without looking, etc.)

Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.

What you describe is very similar to what Ohio does.  The Driver Ed course is a bonus requirement for those under 18, and it includes the one on one instruction.  At 18, though, you don't have to do anything but pass the tests.
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Post by: heron on June 26, 2013, 03:37:12 pm
In Maryland, you can get a permit at 15.75 after taking a written test; you can get a provisional license at 16.67 if you pass a written test and a driving test, have taken 30 hours of Driver's Ed, have 60 hours of driving with your parents or whoever, and 6 hours of driving with a certified instructor. After 151 days with your provisional license, you may drive passengers who are under 18. You may get a full license at 18, as long as you haven't received a ticket or something.
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Post by: Dsell on June 26, 2013, 05:03:47 pm
In Maryland, you can get a permit at 15.75 after taking a written test; you can get a provisional license at 16.67 if you pass a written test and a driving test, have taken 30 hours of Driver's Ed, have 60 hours of driving with your parents or whoever, and 6 hours of driving with a certified instructor. After 151 days with your provisional license, you may drive passengers who are under 18. You may get a full license at 18, as long as you haven't received a ticket or something.

If you can remember all that I think you should be allowed to drive.
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Post by: raerae on June 26, 2013, 05:41:49 pm
Wow. Letting 16 year olds loose on the road with 0 experience is the worst thing I could possibly think of.

Worse than letting 14 year olds loose on the road with 0 experience?
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Post by: ashersky on June 26, 2013, 05:47:24 pm
What do you actually have to do to get a driving license in the US of A? Over here you have to get a provisional license when you are 17, then take 1 to 1 lessons (in a car) with an instructor. You have to pass a "theory test" which is basically in an exam room with questions like "what does this road sign mean" and also has a video part where you have to identify potential hazards as early as possible. Once you pass your theory test you are permitted to take a "practical test" within 2 years, in which you go out in a car with an examiner. They tell you where to go and you do it, and they mark you (quite strictly) on it. You fail for committing 14 "minor offenses" (like not checking your mirrors enough) or even a single "major offense" (speeding, pulling out without looking, etc.)

Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.

What you describe is very similar to what Ohio does.  The Driver Ed course is a bonus requirement for those under 18, and it includes the one on one instruction.  At 18, though, you don't have to do anything but pass the tests.

First, we are the same person in the age thread.  Now, an Ohio connection?  Who ARE you?
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Post by: ashersky on June 26, 2013, 05:47:54 pm
Wow. Letting 16 year olds loose on the road with 0 experience is the worst thing I could possibly think of.

Worse than letting 14 year olds loose on the road with 0 experience?

I get the sense Shraeye was closer to 41 when he was 14.
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Post by: Archetype on June 26, 2013, 05:53:04 pm
What do you actually have to do to get a driving license in the US of A? Over here you have to get a provisional license when you are 17, then take 1 to 1 lessons (in a car) with an instructor. You have to pass a "theory test" which is basically in an exam room with questions like "what does this road sign mean" and also has a video part where you have to identify potential hazards as early as possible. Once you pass your theory test you are permitted to take a "practical test" within 2 years, in which you go out in a car with an examiner. They tell you where to go and you do it, and they mark you (quite strictly) on it. You fail for committing 14 "minor offenses" (like not checking your mirrors enough) or even a single "major offense" (speeding, pulling out without looking, etc.)

Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.

What you describe is very similar to what Ohio does.  The Driver Ed course is a bonus requirement for those under 18, and it includes the one on one instruction.  At 18, though, you don't have to do anything but pass the tests.

First, we are the same person in the age thread.  Now, an Ohio connection?  Who ARE you?
Your long lost twin brother

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Post by: Tables on June 26, 2013, 07:19:21 pm
Point of information: The expression "I'm 12 years old and what is this?" or similar forms, generally missing punctuation, is a meme, and should absolutely not be taken as identification of someone's age. Especially given, as far as I know regarding US laws, the admins would be obliged to ban him if they genuinely believed him to be under 13 due to some child protection laws.
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Post by: Kuildeous on June 27, 2013, 12:34:11 am
What do you actually have to do to get a driving license in the US of A? Over here you have to get a provisional license when you are 17, then take 1 to 1 lessons (in a car) with an instructor. You have to pass a "theory test" which is basically in an exam room with questions like "what does this road sign mean" and also has a video part where you have to identify potential hazards as early as possible. Once you pass your theory test you are permitted to take a "practical test" within 2 years, in which you go out in a car with an examiner. They tell you where to go and you do it, and they mark you (quite strictly) on it. You fail for committing 14 "minor offenses" (like not checking your mirrors enough) or even a single "major offense" (speeding, pulling out without looking, etc.)

Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.

What you describe is very similar to what Ohio does.  The Driver Ed course is a bonus requirement for those under 18, and it includes the one on one instruction.  At 18, though, you don't have to do anything but pass the tests.

First, we are the same person in the age thread.  Now, an Ohio connection?  Who ARE you?

Tyler Durden?
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Post by: Kirian on June 27, 2013, 12:38:30 am
What do you actually have to do to get a driving license in the US of A? Over here you have to get a provisional license when you are 17, then take 1 to 1 lessons (in a car) with an instructor. You have to pass a "theory test" which is basically in an exam room with questions like "what does this road sign mean" and also has a video part where you have to identify potential hazards as early as possible. Once you pass your theory test you are permitted to take a "practical test" within 2 years, in which you go out in a car with an examiner. They tell you where to go and you do it, and they mark you (quite strictly) on it. You fail for committing 14 "minor offenses" (like not checking your mirrors enough) or even a single "major offense" (speeding, pulling out without looking, etc.)

Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.

What you describe is very similar to what Ohio does.  The Driver Ed course is a bonus requirement for those under 18, and it includes the one on one instruction.  At 18, though, you don't have to do anything but pass the tests.

First, we are the same person in the age thread.  Now, an Ohio connection?  Who ARE you?

I'm.... right behind you!

----

Where in OH are you?  I'm in Toledo.
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Post by: Twistedarcher on June 27, 2013, 01:08:29 am
Getting a Driver's License in Delaware if you're under 18 is laughably easy, and more easy that it was in most states. I didn't even have to take a written exam at any point -- in our schools, we have a driver's ed class for 1/4 of the year Sophomore year, and as long as we pass the class, we get a "blue slip", which grants us our permit at the DMV. There's no documentation of us passing any written test, basically all we have is some teachers' word that we're okay to drive (not that my teacher was bad or would lie about it, but I'm sure some do...almost no one fails drivers' ed). My friends from other states are always shocked to know that at no point did I have to take an exam to get my license.
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Post by: Axxle on June 27, 2013, 01:13:51 am
I got my license in Florida to circumvent having to take a driving course here in California. Shh don't tell anyone.
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Post by: ashersky on June 27, 2013, 02:59:39 am
What do you actually have to do to get a driving license in the US of A? Over here you have to get a provisional license when you are 17, then take 1 to 1 lessons (in a car) with an instructor. You have to pass a "theory test" which is basically in an exam room with questions like "what does this road sign mean" and also has a video part where you have to identify potential hazards as early as possible. Once you pass your theory test you are permitted to take a "practical test" within 2 years, in which you go out in a car with an examiner. They tell you where to go and you do it, and they mark you (quite strictly) on it. You fail for committing 14 "minor offenses" (like not checking your mirrors enough) or even a single "major offense" (speeding, pulling out without looking, etc.)

Is it similar over there? The way you're all talking about a "Driver's Ed class" makes it sound like you just go to school and get taught some stuff and then all of a sudden you can drive.

What you describe is very similar to what Ohio does.  The Driver Ed course is a bonus requirement for those under 18, and it includes the one on one instruction.  At 18, though, you don't have to do anything but pass the tests.

First, we are the same person in the age thread.  Now, an Ohio connection?  Who ARE you?

I'm.... right behind you!

----

Where in OH are you?  I'm in Toledo.

HS in Portsmouth, college in Granville (outside of Columbus).  I've moved away, though.
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Post by: shraeye on June 27, 2013, 10:47:49 am
Wow. Letting 16 year olds loose on the road with 0 experience is the worst thing I could possibly think of.

Worse than letting 14 year olds loose on the road with 0 experience?

I get the sense Shraeye was closer to 41 when he was 14.
You don't even know how right you are.  I have been preparing to be a crotchety old man since I was born.
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Post by: Kuildeous on June 28, 2013, 04:16:08 pm
I guess I need to work on my empathy skills.

One lady was opposed to eating at Chinese restaurants because they buy goats, and she has a friend with a pet goat. She told me that these restaurants will replace chicken with goat.

I tried to explain that goat is quite different from chicken. She said beef, then. Well, that's closer, but I still don't think that it would be an easy substitution. I mean, I have yet to find goat meat in any restaurant that wasn't still attached to the bone.

That's when she stormed off.

But seriously, every Indian restaurant I've been to serves goat meat still on the bone. And that is hard to get off there. I can't imagine a restaurant trying to pass goat off as beef. Seems cheaper to just use beef.
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Post by: eHalcyon on June 28, 2013, 04:23:28 pm
I'm Chinese.  Not sure if I've ever tried goat.  Is it like lamb?

Actually, "goat" and "sheep" are called the same thing in Chinese... hm.
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Post by: Awaclus on June 28, 2013, 06:18:05 pm
I guess I need to work on my empathy skills.
Story unrelated?
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Post by: Kuildeous on June 30, 2013, 12:51:30 am
I guess I need to work on my empathy skills.
Story unrelated?

I was trying to explain that I can't imagine a restaurant serving goat and passing it as chicken (I can kind of see beef). Apparently, it was a big deal to her that her friend has a pet goat, so talking about purposefully eating goat didn't sit well with her.

I hope she doesn't know anyone with a pot-bellied pig, because that's definitely not going to stop me from ordering bacon.
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Post by: Awaclus on June 30, 2013, 03:17:09 am
I was trying to explain that I can't imagine a restaurant serving goat and passing it as chicken (I can kind of see beef). Apparently, it was a big deal to her that her friend has a pet goat, so talking about purposefully eating goat didn't sit well with her.

I hope she doesn't know anyone with a pot-bellied pig, because that's definitely not going to stop me from ordering bacon.
Still don't see why that should make you need to work on your empathy skills. To me, it sounds like she's just being way too empathic.
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Post by: SirPeebles on July 03, 2013, 12:15:53 am
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/27/83
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Post by: eHalcyon on July 03, 2013, 12:56:57 am
http://pokemon.alexonsager.net/27/83

Have you seen some of the fan art of fusions?  Some are pretty great.  Here are two of my favourites.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/c934cf0ad11100d4972c35b0816fe273/tumblr_mn495dKe4v1qg07vqo1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e4d632a78991acd53fbd1df5d2133aaf/tumblr_mn33o74Mt71qjvg7to2_500.png)
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Post by: SirPeebles on July 03, 2013, 08:43:15 am
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/141/d/c/pikachoke_pokemon_fusion_by_zyira-d65zrjt.png)
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Post by: eHalcyon on July 05, 2013, 04:05:17 pm
I never realized that Bald Eagles actually sound adorable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlq2kcYQcLc).  The piercing scream that they always use in movies and television is actually the cry of a red tailed hawk.
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Post by: Archetype on July 05, 2013, 04:16:28 pm
I never realized that Bald Eagles actually sound adorable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlq2kcYQcLc).  The piercing scream that they always use in movies and television is actually the cry of a red tailed hawk.
My life is a lie.
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Post by: Kuildeous on July 05, 2013, 05:27:21 pm
OMG! We have the cutest symbol for freedom evar!

Still wouldn't want one of those things swooping down on me, no matter how cute it sounds.
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Post by: SirPeebles on July 06, 2013, 04:54:19 pm
Murica is a lie?
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Post by: Watno on July 06, 2013, 09:11:23 pm
I had to program something for university and am now testing the program on quite a large instance. I started it like 10 hours ago andexpected it to take about 3500 iterations from the early results.
Well, now it's at 4646 and will probably need another 1000. it's 3 am and I want to go to bed, but probably won't be able to sleep with the noise the computer is making. :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 07, 2013, 03:55:37 am
I've been awake since 1 AM and haven't been able to sleep for three hours despite still feeling awful from a cold.  What the hell, body?
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Post by: ipofanes on July 08, 2013, 04:19:37 am
I'm Chinese.  Not sure if I've ever tried goat.  Is it like lamb?

Actually, "goat" and "sheep" are called the same thing in Chinese... hm.

I one read in a travel guide that while Chinese are quite liberal when it comes to eating habits, goat is not among their favourites. Have never seen goat meat in a Chinese restaurant either.
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Post by: eHalcyon on July 08, 2013, 04:25:57 am
I'm Chinese.  Not sure if I've ever tried goat.  Is it like lamb?

Actually, "goat" and "sheep" are called the same thing in Chinese... hm.

I one read in a travel guide that while Chinese are quite liberal when it comes to eating habits, goat is not among their favourites. Have never seen goat meat in a Chinese restaurant either.

Hmm... well, this site (http://cjvlang.com/Spicks/sheepgoat.html) disagrees.  I'm pretty sure I've had either lamb or sheep in a Chinese restaurant.  Just not sure which one, or maybe both.
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Post by: Thisisnotasmile on July 08, 2013, 12:48:52 pm
I'm Chinese.  Not sure if I've ever tried goat.  Is it like lamb?

Actually, "goat" and "sheep" are called the same thing in Chinese... hm.

I one read in a travel guide that while Chinese are quite liberal when it comes to eating habits, goat is not among their favourites. Have never seen goat meat in a Chinese restaurant either.


Sure you have... They just called it something else like "beef" or "chicken" or "pork".
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Post by: Kuildeous on July 08, 2013, 02:42:03 pm
I'm Chinese.  Not sure if I've ever tried goat.  Is it like lamb?

Actually, "goat" and "sheep" are called the same thing in Chinese... hm.

I one read in a travel guide that while Chinese are quite liberal when it comes to eating habits, goat is not among their favourites. Have never seen goat meat in a Chinese restaurant either.


Sure you have... They just called it something else like "beef" or "chicken" or "pork".


And I think that's what this one person was trying to claim, but I just can't see it. Seems like it'd be cheaper to buy chicken or pork in America than goat. And easier to work with, if my experience with goat meat in Indian buffets is any indication.

Maybe I just imagine goat meat to be scarcer and more expensive in America. It's nothing I've researched.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 08, 2013, 05:30:07 pm
Thanks to my mum, I now have a new pet peeve - the news (and especially the weatherman) calling a day the "hottest day of the year so far".

We (in the northern hemisphere at least) start with the temperature near it's coldest, and from about March-August, the average temperature should be increasing. So likely the majority, or at least a large number, of days in that period will be the 'hottest day so far'.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 15, 2013, 02:09:26 pm
Lives downtown so he can be less than 2 miles from work and avoid rush hour traffic.

Agrees to be in a show with nightly rehearsals 20 miles from home.

I sometimes question the sharpness of this crayon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 15, 2013, 06:30:55 pm
I am enjoying Robot Unicorn Attack 2 more than any grown man should.
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Post by: Drab Emordnilap on July 16, 2013, 02:14:57 pm
I am enjoying Robot Unicorn Attack 2 more than any grown man should.

Have you played Punch Quest?
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Post by: shMerker on July 17, 2013, 01:26:39 pm
I just realized that the question "What is the square root of 16?" is really misleadingly worded.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 17, 2013, 04:01:17 pm
I just realized that the question "What is the square root of 16?" is really misleadingly worded.

Yes. "What is a square root of 16" or "What are the square roots of 16" are more correct questions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 17, 2013, 04:05:56 pm
What's being asked is, "What is the positive square root of 16?" And I'd say that it is an implied part of the question. If someone really wants the negative square root, then that would be a part of the question.

But yeah, that is technically a faulty question.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on July 17, 2013, 04:41:43 pm
Whenever i heard a definition of "square root of a" it has been: The positive solution to x^2=a

EDIT: Ok, that seems to be a language issue, and apparently there's a special word for this English (the principal square root)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 17, 2013, 05:24:20 pm
No, who is the square root of 16.  What is the square root of 9.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 17, 2013, 05:38:14 pm
Henderson? (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3051#comic)
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Post by: sudgy on July 22, 2013, 09:36:17 pm
That...  Was the best rickroll ever.


At a camp, there was a campfire and people could do songs or skits for it.  We said we were singing the cheeseburger song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI9yvAx3uCQ) (no, that is not a rickroll), and after a couple lines switched to Never Gonna Give You Up.  The look on their faces was priceless.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 26, 2013, 06:15:10 pm
xkcd: Time seems to have concluded at last.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 26, 2013, 06:25:51 pm
Yet, it's updated twice since the 'the end' scene. Hmm.

You can view the comic in full here (http://geekwagon.net/projects/xkcd1190/), by the way.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on July 26, 2013, 07:08:44 pm
Wow. I gave up after about frame 2000. There was a lot in the last 1000 frames.
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Post by: qmech on July 26, 2013, 08:22:25 pm
I had no idea that was happening.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 27, 2013, 01:44:42 am
Yeah, I hadn't looked back on that comic for a while.  I have to admit I was very much not expecting the Mediterranean Salinity Crisis to pop up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 27, 2013, 05:30:36 am
Yeah, I hadn't looked back on that comic for a while.  I have to admit I was very much not expecting the Mediterranean Salinity Crisis to pop up.

Yeah, the plot suddenly got weird towards the end. I only actually started paying attention towards the end when I noticed the thread on the forums had like 1,700 pages, and realised there was a whole cult following of it. One thing there I found out (well from that and the wiki) is that the star patterns suggest it's set 11,000 years into the future.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 27, 2013, 09:08:01 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on July 28, 2013, 01:46:48 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

You could check the one in http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?24618-Homestuck-Sheet-Music and see how accurate it is. Unless you're transcribing for your own benefit.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 28, 2013, 02:41:53 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...
I've never had to transcribe songs. What purpose does it serve?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 28, 2013, 03:21:55 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...
I've never had to transcribe songs. What purpose does it serve?

Well, say there's a whole song that has no sheet music and you want to play it.  So you transcribe it.  Also, you could transcribe songs for others (or groups of others) to play as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 28, 2013, 03:25:55 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

You could check the one in http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?24618-Homestuck-Sheet-Music and see how accurate it is. Unless you're transcribing for your own benefit.

I seem to like transcribing songs differently than most, I'll probably use that as a guide but still do some of it myself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 28, 2013, 04:06:24 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...
I've never had to transcribe songs. What purpose does it serve?
Well, say there's a whole song that has no sheet music and you want to play it.  So you transcribe it.  Also, you could transcribe songs for others (or groups of others) to play as well.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/understand.png)
Right.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 28, 2013, 06:14:05 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

What instrument to do transcribe for?  Guitar is way easier than others.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 28, 2013, 06:17:41 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

What instrument to do transcribe for?  Guitar is way easier than others.

Piano.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 28, 2013, 06:21:22 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

What instrument to do transcribe for?  Guitar is way easier than others.

Piano.

On but off topic, but random nonetheless, have you see this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1HK7LQY2I)?  Derek Paravacini is blind and autistic, taught himself to play with karate chops and elbows until Dr. Ockleford met him when he was four.  30 years later, and he's at TED.  Incredible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 28, 2013, 06:27:13 pm
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

What instrument to do transcribe for?  Guitar is way easier than others.

Piano.

On but off topic, but random nonetheless, have you see this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1HK7LQY2I)?  Derek Paravacini is blind and autistic, taught himself to play with karate chops and elbows until Dr. Ockleford met him when he was four.  30 years later, and he's at TED.  Incredible.

No, I haven't heard of him.  Also, it doesn't matter if it's on topic in this thread...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on July 29, 2013, 03:31:45 am
Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

What instrument to do transcribe for?  Guitar is way easier than others.

Piano.

On but off topic, but random nonetheless, have you see this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1HK7LQY2I)?  Derek Paravacini is blind and autistic, taught himself to play with karate chops and elbows until Dr. Ockleford met him when he was four.  30 years later, and he's at TED.  Incredible.

No, I haven't heard of him.  Also, it doesn't matter if it's on topic in this thread...

Just don't mention oct0puzes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 30, 2013, 08:15:38 pm
http://justgetflux.com/

This thing is amazing. When you're using a computer/phone/etc at night, it like doesn't hurt your eyes anymore.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on July 30, 2013, 08:22:43 pm
http://justgetflux.com/

This thing is amazing. When you're using a computer/phone/etc at night, it like doesn't hurt your eyes anymore.
It really sucks when your computer reminds you that the sun is rising and you still haven't gone to sleep, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on July 31, 2013, 11:44:59 am
http://justgetflux.com/

This thing is amazing. When you're using a computer/phone/etc at night, it like doesn't hurt your eyes anymore.

Anyone else try this?  It seems neato, but I'm always inherently skeptical of things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on July 31, 2013, 11:46:16 am
I use it and definitely recommend it. Though if you are playing a computer game or something during the "switch" it will lag you out for a couple of seconds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 31, 2013, 01:02:41 pm
http://justgetflux.com/

This thing is amazing. When you're using a computer/phone/etc at night, it like doesn't hurt your eyes anymore.

I thought you were trying to get us to play Fluxx...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on July 31, 2013, 01:10:53 pm
So did I.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 31, 2013, 01:13:43 pm
I enjoyed Fluxx in high school, but I tried it again recently and it just didn't have any appeal. The board game looks a bit more interesting, rather than being just a glob of random chaos.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on July 31, 2013, 01:41:27 pm
When I introduce a new player to Settlers of Catan I like to hand them the blank water tiles or one of the resource stacks and ask them to shuffle it, just to see if they ever catch on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 31, 2013, 02:38:37 pm
It's been revealed that Fennekin can use a move called "Glow Punch".  GameFreak be trolling.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on July 31, 2013, 03:04:34 pm
It's been revealed that Fennekin can use a move called "Glow Punch".  GameFreak be trolling.
I like it.

Speaking of Flux(x): That game sounded a lot better than it actually is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on July 31, 2013, 06:21:23 pm
It's been revealed that Fennekin can use a move called "Glow Punch".  GameFreak be trolling.
I like it.

Speaking of Flux(x): That game sounded a lot better than it actually is.
Eh, it's the one game I can get my non-gaming friends to play, so I have a soft spot for it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 31, 2013, 07:58:39 pm

Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to play (after I transribed it)...
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Post by: sudgy on July 31, 2013, 08:37:04 pm
I just decided to make a program that computes Graham's number.  I wonder why it hasn't crashed yet...

EDIT: Then again, when testing the function for ↑, it said 3↑↑4 was Infinity...  It might just be calculating 3↑InfinityInfinity by now...

EDIT 2: And I just accidentally turned off my computer.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 01, 2013, 12:50:40 am
http://justgetflux.com/

This thing is amazing. When you're using a computer/phone/etc at night, it like doesn't hurt your eyes anymore.

Anyone else try this?  It seems neato, but I'm always inherently skeptical of things.

Installed it yesterday. Already highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on August 01, 2013, 02:58:51 am
EDIT 2: And I just accidentally turned off my computer.  Oh well.

I'm very impressed that you managed to post this in those circumstances.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 01, 2013, 03:23:00 am
EDIT 2: And I just accidentally turned off my computer.  Oh well.

I'm very impressed that you managed to post this in those circumstances.

Well, I turned it back on...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on August 01, 2013, 08:17:37 am
http://justgetflux.com/

This thing is amazing. When you're using a computer/phone/etc at night, it like doesn't hurt your eyes anymore.

Anyone else try this?  It seems neato, but I'm always inherently skeptical of things.

Installed it yesterday. Already highly recommend it.

Wait someone want to explain what this does? I am infront of a computer for 8 hours a day at work and then I go home and (would like to) game heavily. I have looked into buying Gunnar's which are a highly sponsored brand in the league of legends community but I don't know the legitimacy of them nor do I trust young pro gamers to have any say in who they are sponsored by. So anything that helps reduce eye strain from a computer would be great.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 01, 2013, 08:39:44 am
EDIT 2: And I just accidentally turned off my computer.  Oh well.

I'm very impressed that you managed to post this in those circumstances.

Well, I turned it back on...

And those inconsistencies don't mean much nowadays.

I realized that I have five powerful computers in my household. I have a desktop, a laptop, a tablet, my phone, and my wife's phone.

And if I sat down to figure it out, I could probably post from my PS3 or my Wii. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if I could surf the web on my microwave.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 01, 2013, 08:49:58 am
EDIT 2: And I just accidentally turned off my computer.  Oh well.

I'm very impressed that you managed to post this in those circumstances.

Well, I turned it back on...

And those inconsistencies don't mean much nowadays.

I realized that I have five powerful computers in my household. I have a desktop, a laptop, a tablet, my phone, and my wife's phone.

And if I sat down to figure it out, I could probably post from my PS3 or my Wii. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if I could surf the web on my microwave.


Hm.  Ignoring machines that are old and unused, we have a total of seven devices that could be used to post to the web (two desktops, two laptops, tablet, two phones) and one other touch-screen device that isn't web-connected (it belongs to the four-year-old; yes, they make mini-tablets for preschoolers).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on August 01, 2013, 08:59:30 am
http://justgetflux.com/

This thing is amazing. When you're using a computer/phone/etc at night, it like doesn't hurt your eyes anymore.
Wait someone want to explain what this does? I am infront of a computer for 8 hours a day at work and then I go home and (would like to) game heavily. I have looked into buying Gunnar's which are a highly sponsored brand in the league of legends community but I don't know the legitimacy of them nor do I trust young pro gamers to have any say in who they are sponsored by. So anything that helps reduce eye strain from a computer would be great.
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned about it fiddling with my screen when I'm gaming and such; I really only want it to change if I'm just messing around on the internet, and let my game settings continue as I prefer.  Does it have this option?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on August 01, 2013, 09:00:46 am
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if I could surf the web on my microwave.

Hm.  Ignoring machines that are old and unused, we have a total of seven devices that could be used to post to the web

Yes, let's get all kitchen appliances to be web-connected.  Toasters, blenders, can openers...this is brilliant!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 01, 2013, 09:43:14 am
Yes, let's get all kitchen appliances to be web-connected.  Toasters, blenders, can openers...this is brilliant!

Kirian has opened a can of beans with his FB Can Opener.
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Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 01, 2013, 09:48:54 am
In more detail, what f.lux does is allow you to set a daytime and nighttime color warmth (which affects the amount of red and blue light for your display).
At sunrise and sunset, it will switch between them.
At the default, it will switch the color temperature over a period of twenty seconds, but you can change that to an hour so it is less sudden.
Even at the lowest color temperature, everything looks pretty normal after ~30 seconds. Eventually you notice some weird things (some blues turn purple, some browns turn grey), but honestly the screen just looks less bright.
There is also an option to disable f.lux for an hour; I guess if you were doing color sensitive work you would want that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 01, 2013, 10:24:35 am
I tried it out, wasn't a huge fan. The color warmth changes made everything look weird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on August 01, 2013, 12:19:27 pm
Oh, I guess I could have done that thing called reading.

Theory, you say you've used it, how does it work with league? I don't mind lag during the switch, but does it still look nice and does it actually reduce eye strain?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 01, 2013, 01:02:37 pm
Oh, I guess I could have done that thing called reading.

Theory, you say you've used it, how does it work with league? I don't mind lag during the switch, but does it still look nice and does it actually reduce eye strain?

Worked fine with league for me
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on August 01, 2013, 01:33:26 pm
I turn the brightness up/down on my laptop depending on the light levels of the environment I'm using it in at different times during the day. Does this do anything different that I need in my life?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 01, 2013, 02:15:07 pm
It works perfectly fine for me.  You get used to it amazingly quickly, and then turning it off feels very harsh and glaring.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 01, 2013, 02:18:43 pm
At minimum brightness, the computer screen still hurt my eyes at night, so this works better than that for me.
Also it apparently helps you sleep by looking less like the sun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 01, 2013, 03:06:52 pm
Oh dear, it's time for me to have the talk.

I always hate the talk. They get so confused about it, and I need to ensure that they follow the right path. They must not be led astray. It's such a confusing time, and they need to know that there is hope, but they must look in the right place.

Time to explain to people that raising the scores of each individual question does not give students higher pass rates when they need a 90% to pass.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on August 01, 2013, 03:30:03 pm
Also if it's a math test then suggesting that means you are probably going to fail anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 01, 2013, 03:39:48 pm
Also if it's a math test then suggesting that means you are probably going to fail anyway.

No, though the irony would be awesome.

These are people who probably never took more than the minimum required math courses in school.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 01, 2013, 04:49:47 pm
Oh dear, it's time for me to have the talk.

I always hate the talk. They get so confused about it, and I need to ensure that they follow the right path. They must not be led astray. It's such a confusing time, and they need to know that there is hope, but they must look in the right place.

Time to explain to people that raising the scores of each individual question does not give students higher pass rates when they need a 90% to pass.


What do you do?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 01, 2013, 07:15:42 pm
Oh dear, it's time for me to have the talk.

I always hate the talk. They get so confused about it, and I need to ensure that they follow the right path. They must not be led astray. It's such a confusing time, and they need to know that there is hope, but they must look in the right place.

Time to explain to people that raising the scores of each individual question does not give students higher pass rates when they need a 90% to pass.

Please tell me you're teaching pre-teens or teenagers at best...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on August 01, 2013, 07:46:47 pm
Since they're talking about high school as something in the past I'm guessing this is college-level.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: gman314 on August 01, 2013, 11:32:36 pm
I'm guessing either that or high school course upgrades.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 04, 2013, 08:56:12 pm
Gravity Falls is so good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 04, 2013, 09:27:14 pm
Gravity Falls is so good.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on August 05, 2013, 02:25:51 am
Gravity Falls is so good.

Agreed.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 05, 2013, 02:54:55 am
Gravity Falls is so good.

Agreed.

Agreed.

The Street Fighter one was hilarious.  Amazingly so.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on August 05, 2013, 12:29:20 pm
Gravity Falls is so good.
No way. Totally topped by Phineas and Ferb.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 05, 2013, 12:33:00 pm
Gravity Falls is so good.
No way. Totally topped by Phineas and Ferb.

Phineas and Ferb is cool but Gravity Falls has continuity and tons of easter eggs.  Ciphers, ciphers everywhere.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 05, 2013, 07:01:59 pm
Gravity Falls is so good.
No way. Totally topped by Phineas and Ferb.

Phineas and Ferb is cool but Gravity Falls has continuity and tons of easter eggs.  Ciphers, ciphers everywhere.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Backyard Beach, but GF offers way more for the parents forced to watch along with the kids.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 06, 2013, 02:28:00 am
Probably parents force their kids to watch Gravity Falls with them. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 06, 2013, 12:58:26 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc1tdhc0Dk1rfwyd0o1_1280.gif)

Can any of you guess what this is an animation of?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on August 06, 2013, 01:08:22 pm
Wow, that's cool. No real clue but...napalm?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on August 06, 2013, 01:32:14 pm
Windows Media Player?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 06, 2013, 01:35:29 pm
I'm thinking it's an MRI. Probably something passing through the MRI.

What that is, I don't know.  Possibly a star fruit?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on August 06, 2013, 01:40:23 pm
Broccoli?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shMerker on August 06, 2013, 01:53:15 pm
I like the napalm guess. Trees are just explosions that have been 4D rotated so that time is on one of the spacial axes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 06, 2013, 01:56:45 pm
Yup, MRI of broccoli.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 06, 2013, 01:57:45 pm
I was going to post guessing that it's an animation of random stuff. It would have been pretty close.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on August 06, 2013, 03:48:30 pm
That makes so much sense! And now I know what an MRI looks like.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on August 07, 2013, 03:33:34 am
Does anyone know of a website where I can input 10 < X < 30 known values, and have it create an equation to give an also known result using each of the values at least once. Multiple uses of the same value are fine.

e.g. (on a smaller, simpler scale) I input A=3, B=2, C=5, D=10. Z=158.
And it outputs D*A*C + B^A = Z

Input values will likely all be integers with max 4 digits. Output will be a 15 digit integer. Being able to limit it to 'simple' functions (e.g. +,-,*,/,^,sqrt) is a benefit but not neccessary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 07, 2013, 08:27:41 am
Does anyone know of a website where I can input 10 < X < 30 known values, and have it create an equation to give an also known result using each of the values at least once. Multiple uses of the same value are fine.

e.g. (on a smaller, simpler scale) I input A=3, B=2, C=5, D=10. Z=158.
And it outputs D*A*C + B^A = Z

Input values will likely all be integers with max 4 digits. Output will be a 15 digit integer. Being able to limit it to 'simple' functions (e.g. +,-,*,/,^,sqrt) is a benefit but not neccessary.

If you allow unlimited multiple uses of the same value, then this is trivially easy:

(A+A)/A = 2
(A+A+A)/A = 3

Use any combination of twos and threes to generate any integer you want, then tack on +B-B+C-C...

Now, if you want an interesting solution... I suspect you won't find that on the web and will have to generate your own script.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 07, 2013, 07:18:14 pm
@above, you don't need to make it so complicated with 2s and 3s.  Just A/A = 1 is enough. :P





Did everyone here this news (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1014678/doom-lives-anew)?  Pretty incredible move by Cryptozoic Entertainment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 07, 2013, 07:24:28 pm
@above, you don't need to make it so complicated with 2s and 3s.  Just A/A = 1 is enough. :P





Did everyone here this news (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1014678/doom-lives-anew)?  Pretty incredible move by Cryptozoic Entertainment.

Yeah, it's a pretty crazy move on their part.  Then again, they just made 2.5 million on a Kickstarter, so they can afford a small goodwill gesture that also keeps KS from getting more shadows over it.  And they'll of course make plenty on the extra sales of the game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 07, 2013, 07:33:09 pm
I dont really understand the appeal to this game (or why it got so much money thrown at it), but then again I'm not a big H.P. Lovecraft fan. Still, Cryptozoic did a very generous gesture here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 07, 2013, 09:15:32 pm
I dont really understand the appeal to this game (or why it got so much money thrown at it), but then again I'm not a big H.P. Lovecraft fan. Still, Cryptozoic did a very generous gesture here.

I think the appeal is two-fold: one, it's an inversion/aversion of Monopoly, a game we all love to hate; second, it's the draw of the people doing the writing, art, design, and sculpts.  Keith Baker, Lee Moyer, and Paul Komoda are pretty big names.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 08, 2013, 08:26:17 am
Also, some people will buy anything Cthulhu. I was that way once. I used to own Cults Across America. Not a great board game, but it was a fun one.

Nowadays, I look at anything Cthulhu with a degree of skepticism. My wife thought that Cthulhu Dice would be fun. Actually, she was told it was fun by some friends. We now question our friends' judgment. Cthulhu Dice was like playing War.

Although, Elder Sign is fun. And Mansions of Madness, though it is kind of limited in replayability, but it's mostly a storytelling game anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 08, 2013, 05:19:38 pm
Pokemon mega evolutions.  Not sure how to feel about them.

- Mawile getting fairy typing is cool.
- Ampharos with dragon typing is neat.
- Blaziken being involved might indicate gen III remakes?
- But all of the designs look like bad fan art.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 12, 2013, 12:48:51 pm
I dont really understand the appeal to this game (or why it got so much money thrown at it), but then again I'm not a big H.P. Lovecraft fan. Still, Cryptozoic did a very generous gesture here.

I think the appeal is two-fold: one, it's an inversion/aversion of Monopoly, a game we all love to hate; second, it's the draw of the people doing the writing, art, design, and sculpts.  Keith Baker, Lee Moyer, and Paul Komoda are pretty big names.

Good point, but now knowing that, I personally still have 0 desire to have backed the game. I prefer function over form, so I don't care how beautiful the game is or how important it's designers are if the game's mechanisms aren't that great.

I can sort of relate this to those people that flock to Knizia's games regardless of what they are because he's such a reputable designer, but even though he's had some really nice games, he's had some lackluster ones too. But people naturally have different tastes, so who am I to judge if their preferences don't line up with mine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 13, 2013, 09:55:15 am
This is probably old news to a lot of people, but I just discovered this: http://ackuna.com/badtranslator

So I came into this thread to look for stuff to translate into random languages and back to English...
That makes so much sense! And now I know what an MRI looks like.
...35 translations later, Bing gives us:

"As a result and now John."

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Translation:
From English: That makes so much sense! And now I know what an MRI looks like.
To Latvian: Kas padara tik daudz nozīmē! Un tagad es zinu, kā izskatās MRI.
Back to English: That makes so much sense! And now I know how it looks like MR.
To Finnish: On niin paljon järkeä! Ja nyt tiedän, miltä se näyttää kuin MR.
Back to English: There is so much sense! And now I know how it looks like MR.
To Korean: 거기에 너무 많은 의미가입니다! 그리고 지금 난 어떻게 씨 처럼 보이는.
Back to English: There is so much sense! And now I know how it looks like Mr.
To German: Es gibt so viel Sinn! Und jetzt weiß ich, wie es Herr aussieht.
Back to English: There is so much sense! And now I know how it is Mr.
To Japanese: ので、あまり意味がある !今どのようにそれが氏を知っています。
Back to English: Because there is too much sense! Now it know how.
To Arabic: لأن هناك شعور بالكثير! الآن أنها تعرف كيف.
Back to English: Because there is so much! Now she knows how.
To Italian: Perché c'è così tanto! Ora lei sa come.
Back to English: Why is there so much! Now she knows how.
To French: Pourquoi y a-t-il tellement de choses ! Maintenant, elle sait comment.
Back to English: Why is there so much! Now, she knows how.
To Polish: Dlaczego jest tak wiele! Teraz, ona wie jak.
Back to English: Why are there so many! Now, she knows how.
To Greek: Γιατί υπάρχουν τόσα πολλά! Τώρα, ξέρει πώς.
Back to English: Because there are so many! Now, he knows how.
To Lithuanian: Nes yra tiek daug! Dabar, jis žino, kaip.
Back to English: Because there are so many! Now, he knows how.
To Romanian: Deoarece există atât de multe! Acum, el stie cum.
Back to English: Because there are so many! Now he knows how.
To Norwegian: Fordi det er så mange! Nå han vite hvordan.
Back to English: Because there are so many! Now he knows how.
To Chinese Traditional: 因為有那麼多人 !現在他知道如何。
Back to English: Because there are so many people! Now he knows how.
To Portuguese: Porque existem tantas pessoas! Agora ele sabe como.
Back to English: Because there are so many people! Now he knows how.
To Hebrew: כי יש כל כך הרבה אנשים! עכשיו הוא יודע כמה.
Back to English: Because there are so many people! Now he knows how.
To Russian: Потому что есть так много людей! Теперь он знает, как.
Back to English: Because there are so many people! Now he knows how.
To Turkish: Çünkü o kadar çok insanlar! Şimdi o bilir nasıl.
Back to English: Because so many people! Now he knows how.
To Chinese Simplified: 因为如此,许多人 !现在他知道如何。
Back to English: Because of this, many people! Now he knows how.
To Vietnamese: Bởi vì điều này, nhiều người! Bây giờ anh ta biết làm thế nào.
Back to English: Because of this, many people! Now he knows how.
To Hungarian: Emiatt sokan! Most már tudja, hogyan.
Back to English: As a result, a lot of people! Now you know how.
To Slovak: Ako výsledok, veľa ľudí! Teraz viete ako.
Back to English: As a result, a lot of people! Now you know how.
To Indonesian: Akibatnya, banyak orang! Sekarang Anda tahu bagaimana.
Back to English: As a result, a lot of people! Now you know how.
To Ukranian: У результаті, багато людей! Тепер ви знаєте, як.
Back to English: As a result, a lot of people! Now you know how.
To Haitian Creole: Kòm yon rezilta, anpil moun yon kote! Koulye a, ou konnen jan.
Back to English: As a result, are a lot of people around. And now, see, John.
To Spanish: Como resultado, son un montón de gente alrededor. Y ahora, ver, John.
Back to English: As a result, they are a lot of people around. And now, see, John.
To Swedish: Som ett resultat, är de en massa människor runt. Och nu, se, John.
Back to English: As a result, they are a lot of people around. And now, behold, John.
To Danish: Som et resultat, er de en masse mennesker omkring. Og se nu, John.
Back to English: As a result, they are a lot of people around. And now behold, John.
To Thai: เป็นผล จะมากสถาน และเดี๋ยวนี้ เถิด จอห์น
Back to English: As a result, the very place and now let us John.
To Dutch: Als een resultaat, de plaats en nu laten we John.
Back to English: As a result, the place and now let's John.
To Slovenian: Kot rezultat, kraj in zdaj let's John.
Back to English: As a result, the place, and now John's years.
To Catalan: Com a resultat, el lloc i ara de John anys.
Back to English: As a result, and now John.
To Czech: Jako výsledek a nyní John.
Back to English: As a result, and now John.
To Bulgarian: Като резултат и сега Джон.
Back to English: As a result and now John.
I was almost literally rolling on the floor laughing when this John person made his appearance in the translation.  ;D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on August 13, 2013, 10:12:38 am
Quote
From English: Someone else has to implement their features for them, and then they can't even type the URL correctly
To Vietnamese: Ai đã thực hiện các tính năng của họ cho họ, và sau đó họ không thể thậm chí nhập URL chính xác
Back to English: Who made their features for them, and then they cannot even enter the correct URL
To Catalan: Qui va fer la seva característiques per a ells, i llavors fins i tot no es pot introduir l'adreça URL correcta
Back to English: Who made their features for them, and then even cannot enter the correct URL
To Turkish: Kim onların özellikleri onlar için yapılmış ve o zaman bile doğru URL'yi giremezsiniz
Back to English: Who made for them, their properties, and even then I can not enter the correct URL
To Polish: Kto się do nich, ich właściwości, i nawet wtedy nie można wprowadzić poprawny adres URL
Back to English: Who to them, their properties, and even then you can't enter the correct URL
To Czech: Kdo na ně, jejich vlastnosti a dokonce pak nelze zadat správnou adresu URL
Back to English: To them, their properties, and even then, you cannot specify the correct URL
To Danish: Til dem, deres egenskaber, og selv da, kan ikke du angive den korrekte webadresse
Back to English: To them, their properties, and even then, may not enter the correct URL
To Latvian: Pareizs URL nedrīkst ievadīt tos, to īpašības un pat tad,
Back to English: Correct URL may not enter them, their properties and even
To Hungarian: Megfelelő URL-címet nem adja meg őket, azok tulajdonságait, és még
Back to English: Correct URL does not specify them, their properties, and more
To Finnish: Oikea URL-osoite ei määritä niitä, niiden ominaisuudet ja enemmän
Back to English: The correct URL is not set up for them, their properties, and more
To Hebrew: כתובת ה-URL הנכונה אינה מוגדרת עבור אותם, את המאפיינים שלהם, ועוד
Back to English: The URL is not defined correctly for them, their properties, and more
To German: Die URL ist für sie, ihre Eigenschaften und mehr nicht richtig definiert.
Back to English: The URL is not properly defined for them, their properties, and more.
To Greek: Η διεύθυνση URL δεν έχει οριστεί σωστά για τους, τις ιδιότητές τους, και πολλά άλλα.
Back to English: The URL is not set correctly for them, their properties, and much more.
To Haitian Creole: Adrès entènèt la pa fikse kòrèkteman pou yo la a, se pwopwiyete yo, ak pa bezwen mande.
Back to English: Address the Internet not set correctly to, their property, and much.
To Portuguese: Endereço da Internet não está definido corretamente para, sua propriedade e muito.
Back to English: The Internet address is not set correctly to your property and.
To Arabic: لم يتم تعيين عنوان إنترنت للممتلكات الخاصة بك بشكل صحيح و.
Back to English: The Internet address is not set for your property correctly.
To Indonesian: Alamat Internet tidak diatur untuk properti Anda dengan benar.
Back to English: The Internet address is not set correctly for your property.
To Bulgarian: Интернет адресът не е настроен правилно за вашия имот.
Back to English: The Internet address is not set up correctly for your property.
To Japanese: インターネット アドレスが設定されていない正しくあなたの財産のため。
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not set for your property.
To Ukranian: Позитивні Інтернет-адреса не налаштовано для вашої власності.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured for your property.
To Thai: ที่อยู่อินเทอร์เน็ตบวกไม่ได้กำหนดค่าสำหรับคุณสมบัติของคุณ
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured for your property.
To Lithuanian: Teigiamas interneto adresas nėra sukonfigūruota savo turtą.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your property.
To Norwegian: Positiv Internett-adresse er ikke konfigurert i din bolig.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your property.
To Chinese Traditional: 積極的互聯網位址未配置在您的財產。
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your property.
To Slovak: Pozitívne internetová adresa nie je nakonfigurovaná vo vašom vlastníctve.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your possession.
To Romanian: Pozitiv adresa de Internet nu este configurat în posesia dumneavoastră.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your possession.
To Slovenian: Pozitivno internetni naslov ni konfigurirana v vaši lasti.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your possession.
To Swedish: Positiva Internetadressen är inte konfigurerad i din ägo.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your possession.
To Russian: Позитивные Интернет-адрес не настроен в вашем распоряжении.
Back to English: Positive Internet address is not configured in your possession.
To Dutch: Positieve Internet-adres is niet geconfigureerd in uw bezit.
Back to English: Positive Internet-address is not configured in your possession.
To Korean: 긍정적인 인터넷 주소 보유에 구성 되어 있지 않습니다.
Back to English: The Internet address is not configured to keep positive.
To Estonian: Interneti-aadress on konfigureeritud hoida positiivset.
Back to English: The Internet address is configured to keep positive.
To French: L'adresse Internet est configuré pour rester positif.
Back to English: The Internet address is configured to remain positive.
To Chinese Simplified: 互联网地址配置保持积极。
Back to English: Configure the Internet address stay positive.
To Spanish: Configurar la dirección de Internet sé positivo.
Back to English: Configure the Internet address be positive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on August 13, 2013, 12:28:36 pm
Although, Elder Sign is fun. And Mansions of Madness, though it is kind of limited in replayability, but it's mostly a storytelling game anyway.

Voters registered in good faith, grace
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on August 13, 2013, 02:16:48 pm
On the Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail DVD there is a feature that lets you watch the movie with subtitles translated into Japanese and back into English. My favorite change is "Bring me a bonsai!"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on August 13, 2013, 03:38:05 pm
I was almost literally rolling on the floor laughing when this John person made his appearance in the translation.  ;D
John is pretty much the same, a tradition here on Earth.
(It keeps going, but that sentence was my favorite.)
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From English: I was almost literally rolling on the floor laughing when this John person made his appearance in the translation.
To Bulgarian: Аз почти буквално се търкаляше на пода се смее, когато този Джон човек прави появата си в превод.
Back to English: I almost literally rolling on the floor laughing when this John guy made its appearance in translation.
To Catalan: Jo gairebé literalment rodant pel terra rient quan aquest tipus de John fet la seva aparició en la traducció.
Back to English: I almost literally rolling on the floor laughing when this type of John made its appearance in the translation.
To Chinese Simplified: 几乎是逐字地轧地板笑时这种类型的约翰翻译中作出它的外观。
Back to English: Almost literally rolling floor laughing in the translation of this type when John made its appearance.
To Czech: Téměř doslova válcování podlaze smíchy v překladu tohoto typu, když John dělal jeho vzhled.
Back to English: Almost literally rolling the floor with laughter in this type of translation, when John made his appearance.
To Chinese Traditional: 約翰做了他出現的時候幾乎是逐字地在這種類型的翻譯,滾動在地板上的有笑聲。
Back to English: When John did, and he appeared almost literally in this type of translation, rolling on the floor with laughter.
To Japanese: ジョンは、彼はほとんど文字通りこの種類の翻訳、笑いと床に転がりに登場します。
Back to English: John is he almost literally appeared on rolling in this type of translation, the laughter and the floor.
To Danish: John er næsten bogstaveligt talt optrådte han på rullende i denne form for oversættelse, latteren og gulvet.
Back to English: John is almost literally he appeared on rolling in this type of translation, the laughter and the floor.
To Dutch: John is bijna letterlijk dat hij verscheen op rollen in dit soort vertaling, de lach en de vloer.
Back to English: John is almost literally that he appeared on roles in this type of translation, the laughter and the floor.
To Estonian: John on peaaegu sõna-sõnalt, et ta ilmus rolli seda tüüpi tõlge, naeru ja põrandale.
Back to English: John is almost word for Word, that he appeared in the role of this type of translation, the laughter and the floor.
To Slovenian: John je skoraj dobesedno, da je nastopil v vlogi te vrste prevajanja, smeh in tla.
Back to English: John is almost literally that, he appeared in the role of this type of translation, the laughter and the floor.
To Haitian Creole: John se pwèske mo pou mo sa a, li te parèt nan wòl sa a jan de tradiksyon, Ri a ak atè a.
Back to English: John is nearly Word for this word, he appeared in this role kind of tradition, Ri and on the floor.
To Romanian: John este aproape de cuvânt pentru acest cuvânt, el a apărut în acest tip de rol de tradiţie, Ri şi pe podea.
Back to English: John is almost word for Word, he appeared in the role of tradition, the Ri and on the floor.
To Finnish: John on lähes sanasta sanaan, hän esiintyi perinne, Ri roolissa lattialle.
Back to English: John is almost word for Word, he appeared in the role of tradition in Ri on the floor.
To Greek: John είναι σχεδόν ταυτόσημο, εμφανίστηκε στο ρόλο της παράδοσης στο Ri στο πάτωμα.
Back to English: John is almost identical, appeared in the role of tradition in Ri on the floor.
To Hebrew: ג'ון הוא כמעט זהה, הופיע בתפקיד של מסורת רי על הרצפה.
Back to English: John is almost the same, the role of tradition here on the floor.
To German: John ist fast das gleiche, die Rolle der Tradition hier auf dem Boden.
Back to English: John is almost the same, the role of tradition here on the ground.
To French: John est presque la même, le rôle de la tradition ici sur le terrain.
Back to English: John is almost the same, the role of tradition here on the ground.
To Lithuanian: John yra beveik tas pats, tradicija čia žemėje vaidmenį.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, a tradition here on Earth.
To Norwegian: John er pen mye det samme, en tradisjon her på jorden.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, a tradition here on Earth.
To Ukranian: Джон є досить так само, за традицією тут, на землі.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, by tradition here on Earth.
To Indonesian: Yohanes adalah hampir sama, oleh tradisi di sini di bumi.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, by tradition here on Earth.
To Polish: John jest ładny dużo ten sam, przez tradycję, tutaj na ziemi.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, by tradition, here on Earth.
To Russian: Джон является довольно много это же, по традиции, здесь на земле.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, according to the tradition, here on Earth.
To Spanish: John es prácticamente el mismo, según la tradición, aquí en la tierra.
Back to English: John is practically the same, according to the tradition, here on Earth.
To Korean: 존은 실질적으로 동일, 전통, 여기 지구에.
Back to English: John is practically the same, tradition, here on Earth.
To Italian: John è praticamente la stessa, tradizione, qui sulla terra.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, tradition, here on Earth.
To Slovak: John je skoro rovnaká, tradícia, tu na zemi.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, a tradition here on Earth.
To Portuguese: John é praticamente o mesmo, uma tradição aqui na terra.
Back to English: John is pretty much the same, a tradition here on Earth.
To Turkish: John hemen hemen aynı, yeryüzünde bir gelenek olduğunu.
Back to English: John is almost the same, it's a tradition on Earth.
To Hungarian: John szinte azonos, ez a hagyomány, a földön.
Back to English: John, this is almost identical to the tradition, on the ground.
To Swedish: John, detta är nästan identisk med traditionen, på marken.
Back to English: John, this is almost identical to the tradition, on the ground.
To Vietnamese: John, đây là gần như giống hệt nhau để truyền thống, trên mặt đất.
Back to English: John, this is almost identical to the tradition, on the ground.
To Latvian: John, tas ir gandrīz identisks tradīciju, uz zemes.
Back to English: John, this is almost identical to the tradition, on the ground.
To Thai: จอห์น นี้จะเกือบเหมือนกับประเพณี บนพื้นดิน
Back to English: This is almost identical to John tradition on the ground.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on August 13, 2013, 04:40:35 pm
The Pokemon World TCG and VG Championships happened last weekend in Vancouver.
The next one is in Washington DC so I might actually go, even if just to try to grind in.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 13, 2013, 05:11:41 pm
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rolling the floor with laughter
That's a bit extreme.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 13, 2013, 10:31:34 pm
The Pokemon World TCG and VG Championships happened last weekend in Vancouver.
The next one is in Washington DC so I might actually go, even if just to try to grind in.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 13, 2013, 11:12:00 pm
The Pokemon World TCG and VG Championships happened last weekend in Vancouver.
The next one is in Washington DC so I might actually go, even if just to try to grind in.

Vancouver, British Columbia, in the International Herald Tribune world consumes vacation week tournament Pokemon TCG.
Washington and Colombia.

(Yes, the translator cut that last sentence to just three words.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 17, 2013, 08:15:22 pm
Here's a picture of me irl:

(http://i.imgur.com/iSSRPrMl.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 17, 2013, 08:45:09 pm
...but how do you type?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 17, 2013, 08:46:56 pm
Oh, I have a thing that reads my mind.  It types for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 17, 2013, 08:55:31 pm
Oh, I have a thing that reads my mind.  It types for me.

Oh, a human. Yeah, I have one of those, he always sits by me and just follows my instructions. I hate when he puts food on me while doing stuff though. At least I have a nice cloth to keep me clean I guess.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 17, 2013, 08:57:26 pm
Oh, I have a thing that reads my mind.  It types for me.
Why don't you just use your hands? (http://youtu.be/qfgyKPQO9g8?t=50s)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 17, 2013, 09:00:46 pm
Oh, I have a thing that reads my mind.  It types for me.
Why don't you just use your hands? (http://youtu.be/qfgyKPQO9g8?t=50s)

...Where are their hands?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on August 18, 2013, 05:57:43 pm
With this post, this thread passes "Decline of Civility on Isotropic?" on the post count list.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on August 18, 2013, 06:05:32 pm
Quote
From English: With this post, this thread passes "Decline of Civility on Isotropic?" on the post count list.
To Bulgarian: С този пост тази нишка минава Спад на цивилизоваността на Isotropic? на списъка публикация граф.
Back to English: With this post this thread passes the decline of civility of Isotropic? on the post list count.
To Catalan: Amb aquest post aquest fil passa el declivi del civisme de l'Isotropic? el comte de llista de correu.
Back to English: With this post this thread goes the decline of civility in the Isotropic? the count of mailing list.
To Chinese Simplified: 这篇文章与此线程去 Isotropic 在文明的衰落吗?邮件列表中的计数。
Back to English: This article and this thread is Isotropic in the decline of civilization do? Count in the message list.
To Chinese Traditional: 這篇文章和這個執行緒中做文明的衰落是 Isotropic 嗎?在消息清單中的計數。
Back to English: This article and this thread do the decline of civilization is Isotropic in it? Count in the message list.
To Czech: Tento článek a to vlákno úpadek civilizace je v něm Isotropic? Počítejte v seznamu zpráv.
Back to English: This article and this thread the decline of civilization is Isotropic in it? Note in the message list.
To Danish: Denne artikel og denne tråd tilbagegangen i civilisation er Isotropic i det? Bemærk i meddelelseslisten.
Back to English: This article and this thread the decline of civilization is Isotropic in it? Note in the message list.
To Dutch: In dit artikel en deze draad de achteruitgang van de beschaving is Isotropic daarin? Opmerking in de lijst met berichten.
Back to English: This article and this thread the decline of civilization is Isotropic in it? Note in the list of messages.
To Estonian: Käesoleva artikli ja seda teemat Õhtumaa tsivilisatsiooni Isotropic see on? Ja sõnumiloendi tähele.
Back to English: The provisions of this article and this thread, this is The civilization of the Isotropic? And note the message list.
To Finnish: Säännökset tämän artikkelin ja tätä säiettä, tämä on sivistystä Isotropic? Ja viestiluettelon.
Back to English: The provisions of this article and this thread, this is the culture of the Isotropic? And the message list.
To French: Les dispositions du présent article et de ce fil, c'est la culture de l'isotrope ? Et la liste des messages.
Back to English: The provisions of this article and this thread, it is the culture of the isotropic? And the list of messages.
To German: Die Bestimmungen dieses Artikels und dieser Thread, es ist die Kultur der isotropen? Und die Liste der Nachrichten.
Back to English: The provisions of this article and this thread, it's the culture of the isotropic? And the list of messages.
To Greek: Οι διατάξεις του παρόντος άρθρου και αυτό το νήμα, είναι η κουλτούρα της το ισοτροπικό; Και η λίστα μηνυμάτων.
Back to English: The provisions of this article and this thread, is the culture of the isotropic? And the message list.
To Haitian Creole: Les dispositions de atik sa a ak rad sa a, se kilti a de matériaux a? Et lis mesaj la.
Back to English: The dispositions of this article this dress, is culture two matériaux? And list of the message.
To Hebrew: רופאים של מאמר זה השמלה הזאת, היא תרבות שני matériaux? ורשימה של ההודעה.
Back to English: Doctors of this dress, it other matériaux culture? And a list of the message.
To Hungarian: Az orvosok ezt a ruhát, hogy más matériaux kultúra? És az üzenet listája.
Back to English: The doctors in this dress, it other matériaux culture? And the message list.
To Indonesian: Para dokter dalam gaun ini, itu budaya matériaux lain? Dan daftar pesan.
Back to English: The doctors in this dress, it other matériaux culture? And the message list.
To Italian: I medici in questo vestito, e altra cultura matériaux? E l'elenco dei messaggi.
Back to English: Doctors in this dress, and other culture materials? And the list of messages.
To Japanese: このドレスと他文化資料医師ですか?メッセージの一覧。
Back to English: This dress and other cultural material doctor? The list of messages.
To Korean: 이 드레스와 다른 문화 소재 의사? 메시지의 목록입니다.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural material the doctor? This is a list of the message.
To Latvian: Šīs kleitas un citu kultūras materiālu ārsts? Šis ir saraksts ar ziņojumu.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural materials the doctor? This is a list of the message.
To Lithuanian: Šios suknelės ir kitų kultūrinę medžiagą gydytojas? Tai yra pranešimas, sąrašą.
Back to English: These dresses, and other cultural materials the doctor? This is a message to the list.
To Norwegian: Disse kjoler og andre kulturelle materialer legen? Dette er en melding til listen.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural materials the doctor? This is a message to the list.
To Polish: Te sukienki i inne materiały kultury lekarz? To jest wiadomość do listy.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural materials the doctor? This is a message to the list.
To Portuguese: Esses vestidos e outros materiais culturais o médico? Esta é uma mensagem para a lista.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural materials the doctor? This is a message to the list.
To Romanian: Aceste rochii şi alte materiale culturale medicul? Acesta este un mesaj la lista.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural materials the doctor? This is a message to the list.
To Russian: Эти платья и других культурных материалов доктор? Это сообщение в список.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural materials the doctor? This is a message to the list.
To Slovak: Tieto šaty a iných kultúrnych materiálov lekár? To je posolstvo do zoznamu.
Back to English: These dresses and other cultural materials the doctor? It is a message to the list.
To Slovenian: Te obleke in drugih kulturnih materialov zdravnik? To je sporočilo na seznam.
Back to English: These suits and other cultural materials. This is a message to the list.
To Spanish: Estos trajes y otros materiales culturales. Este es un mensaje a la lista.
Back to English: These costumes and other cultural materials. This is a message to the list.
To Swedish: Dessa dräkter och andra kulturella material. Detta är ett meddelande i listan.
Back to English: These costumes and other cultural materials. This is a message to the list.
To Thai: เครื่องแต่งกายเหล่านี้และอื่น ๆ วัสดุทางวัฒนธรรม นี่คือข้อความในรายการ
Back to English: These costumes and other cultural materials. Here is the text in the list.
To Turkish: Bu kostüm ve diğer kültürel malzemeler. Listede metin burada.
Back to English: This costume and other cultural materials. The text in the list here.
To Ukranian: Цей костюм та інших культурних матеріалів. Текст у списку тут.
Back to English: This costume and other cultural materials. The text in the list here.
To Vietnamese: Trang phục này và các tài liệu văn hóa khác. Các văn bản trong danh sách dưới đây.
Back to English: This costume and other cultural materials. The text in the list below.

Note how a Doctor is involved somewhere in between.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 22, 2013, 02:26:49 pm
I accidentally hit the increase speed button on MPC while listening to music. It was very amusing for a while, but once you get used to it, it starts sounding surprisingly normal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 22, 2013, 06:03:44 pm
I randomly made a Youtube channel!

It only has one video at the moment...  I'm think of a couple others to add soon.  The one is me playing a song from Clannad on the piano.

(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on August 22, 2013, 06:10:42 pm
You look different than you do on your picture.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 22, 2013, 06:11:21 pm
You look different than you do on your picture.

You can't even see my face...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on August 22, 2013, 07:24:10 pm
Hey, so do I!

http://www.youtube.com/user/hekxelqunitz

Please note: All Glovemakers videos and the Percy Jackson video were created the summer after sixth grade.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 22, 2013, 08:33:05 pm
You look different than you do on your picture.

You can't even see my face...
You have hands! And they can play the piano really well!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 23, 2013, 09:30:46 am
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 23, 2013, 03:30:27 pm
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.

Have you ever seen Clannad?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 23, 2013, 04:34:09 pm
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.

Have you ever seen Clannad?
Yeah, twice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 23, 2013, 04:52:46 pm
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.

Have you ever seen Clannad?
Yeah, twice.

Well then, you're the second person I know that has seen it and said that another show is better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 23, 2013, 05:25:36 pm
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.

Have you ever seen Clannad?
Yeah, twice.

Well then, you're the second person I know that has seen it and said that another show is better.
No, I'm not saying that Another is better than Clannad. Clannad is a solid 9/10, Another is something like 7/10.

EDIT: Jokes aside, I actually think there are more shows that are better than Clannad than just Bakemonogatari. Clannad is still in my top10 though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 23, 2013, 05:27:12 pm
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.

Have you ever seen Clannad?
Yeah, twice.

Well then, you're the second person I know that has seen it and said that another show is better.
No, I'm not saying that Another is better than Clannad. Clannad is a solid 9/10, Another is something like 7/10.

I (and most people I know) say Clannad is at least a 10/10.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 23, 2013, 05:31:07 pm
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.

Have you ever seen Clannad?
Yeah, twice.

Well then, you're the second person I know that has seen it and said that another show is better.
No, I'm not saying that Another is better than Clannad. Clannad is a solid 9/10, Another is something like 7/10.

I (and most people I know) say Clannad is at least a 10/10.
We're talking about the anime here, right? The VN is indeed a 10/10, but the anime is clearly worse.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 23, 2013, 05:42:39 pm
(here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKqAzeqrH4E) is a link to the video)
You're pretty good, but Bakemonogatari is better than Clannad.

Have you ever seen Clannad?
Yeah, twice.

Well then, you're the second person I know that has seen it and said that another show is better.
No, I'm not saying that Another is better than Clannad. Clannad is a solid 9/10, Another is something like 7/10.

I (and most people I know) say Clannad is at least a 10/10.
We're talking about the anime here, right? The VN is indeed a 10/10, but the anime is clearly worse.

I'm talking about Clannad + After Story.  I consider them the same show.  I've never played the VN.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 23, 2013, 05:48:09 pm
I'm talking about Clannad + After Story.  I consider them the same show.
Yeah, me too. Also, the first season is the better one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 23, 2013, 05:50:10 pm
I'm talking about Clannad + After Story.  I consider them the same show.
Yeah, me too. Also, the first season is the better one.

...........I disagree tremendously.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 23, 2013, 06:54:50 pm
Is bakemonogatari a Ghost Story?  Cause that's the best translation I can make out of that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 23, 2013, 07:07:41 pm
Is bakemonogatari a Ghost Story?  Cause that's the best translation I can make out of that.
It's been translated as "Ghostory".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 23, 2013, 09:05:51 pm
I get the joke, at least.

Bakemono = ghost/monster
Monogatari = story
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on August 25, 2013, 07:34:29 pm
It's the start of the Monogatari series, each of which has a title which is a portmanteau with monogatari - for example, the second part of the first season is "Nisemonogatari", from nisemono = fake, forgery, imposter (although given that the "fakes" are more imposters than forgeries, the "mono" kanji should probably be the one for a person rather than an object). Although some of the words are made up, I think.

That said, Bakemonogatari is awesome and bizarre and different, and most of the time even the fan service seems to be done in a weird self-aware manner (although that gets a little worse in Nisemonogatari ... *shudder* I will never think of brushing my teeth the same way).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 25, 2013, 08:18:06 pm
I just had a dream where I saw that a post of mine on here had hundreds of respect...


Does anybody here like making dreams come true?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 26, 2013, 11:28:56 am
Technically, you didn't specify positive or negative ...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on August 26, 2013, 11:34:26 am
Technically, you didn't specify positive or negative ...
But you are such a nice guy you decided to go with positive anyways?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 26, 2013, 12:02:50 pm
lolz
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 26, 2013, 12:54:27 pm
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130826.png) (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3093)

SMBC is already one of my favourite comics, but this one is too good not to share.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 26, 2013, 01:09:16 pm
theory is the magic that turns dreams into reality.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 26, 2013, 01:37:29 pm
Theory, you just made my day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 26, 2013, 02:06:02 pm
For mathematicians, the mathgen random maths paper generator is pretty brilliant.

http://thatsmathematics.com/mathgen/

One example of the amusing nonsense you can get:

"Proof. Suppose the contrary. Let d be an empty isomorphism. Trivially, if the Riemann hypothesis holds then the Riemann hypothesis holds."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 28, 2013, 01:56:20 pm
For school this year, I have to read a 1200 page book called "Tools of Dominion".  Yay, a whole book about my favorite board game!

Wait, what?  It's all about Biblical law?  Oh boy...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 29, 2013, 08:33:42 am
Today the final piece of DLC for a video game (Fire Emblem: Awakening) I play came out (in Europe). People have hyped this DLC us as being ludicrously hard, the ultimate challenge in the game etc. So I've been looking forward to it for a while. Beat it first time, without any difficulty and pretty much zero risk throughout, and I even had some self-imposed restrictions during it. Then did the harder, 'secret route' (it's not very secret...) of it, and beat that first try as well. Even the often hyped up boss of that secret route went down in about two rounds of combat, which is kind of pathetic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on August 31, 2013, 02:20:38 am
I get ahead by more than I've ever gotten ahead, and throw it all away at the end.

:(

(http://i.imgur.com/lftyzLy.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 31, 2013, 07:46:16 am
Dude... that sucks. You're actually only about a minute off the WR at this point though, which is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 31, 2013, 12:07:16 pm
In three weeks I get to officiate another friend's wedding. He's helped me with some of my computer woes, so it's the least I could do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 31, 2013, 04:53:58 pm
In three weeks I get to officiate another friend's wedding. He's helped me with some of my computer woes, so it's the least I could do.

I still think the strangest wedding I went to was my grandpa's wedding that my dad ran.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 01, 2013, 09:47:52 am
This (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=search2;params=eJwtj0uOwkAMBe_CZja1iO3ufE4ThY4lZhQIagKjkXL4cRC7culZz57m13QrPu9fe7Of9nM9KCsZ62ixBkF7dEAyMpAMS_RIS4ciQYIFKGqoIB0WsViNUbEWSaSebGQhD2hiIIdusIy2pIYkpOiMUokjHpf1dyzr9b745nHOoZ7nHy_buN6Wv49Z6xZUffH3Bx81zt819OyPchifarm8Yy9f_gHkKkR0) is a rather amusing search. It really revels a rather interesting keyword we've invented for Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on September 01, 2013, 01:37:44 pm
This (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=search2;params=eJwtj0uOwkAMBe_CZja1iO3ufE4ThY4lZhQIagKjkXL4cRC7culZz57m13QrPu9fe7Of9nM9KCsZ62ixBkF7dEAyMpAMS_RIS4ciQYIFKGqoIB0WsViNUbEWSaSebGQhD2hiIIdusIy2pIYkpOiMUokjHpf1dyzr9b745nHOoZ7nHy_buN6Wv49Z6xZUffH3Bx81zt819OyPchifarm8Yy9f_gHkKkR0) is a rather amusing search. It really revels a rather interesting keyword we've invented for Dominion.

When I first clicked and saw what you were looking at I thought to myself "Well, at least you won't find me on this list"...

Turns out I started the craze.

Are 2-year edits cool? I'm starting a new craze right now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 01, 2013, 02:06:40 pm
There are times when, rather than reveal my Moat, I revel in the knowledge that the incoming attack will benefit me.

My hand:  Silver Gold Gold Moat Tunnel

Opponent plays Militia.

I discard Moat and Tunnel  8)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on September 01, 2013, 02:24:02 pm
That moment when you realize that two well-known thoroughfares in your city are actually the same road.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 01, 2013, 03:07:56 pm
There are times when, rather than reveal my Moat, I revel in the knowledge that the incoming attack will benefit me.

My hand:  Silver Gold Gold Moat Tunnel

Opponent plays Militia.

I discard Moat and Tunnel  8)

I play Torturer
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 01, 2013, 04:25:51 pm
There are times when, rather than reveal my Moat, I revel in the knowledge that the incoming attack will benefit me.

My hand:  Silver Gold Gold Moat Tunnel

Opponent plays Militia.

I discard Moat and Tunnel  8)

I play Torturer

I'll take a Curse.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 01, 2013, 04:37:06 pm
There are times when, rather than reveal my Moat, I revel in the knowledge that the incoming attack will benefit me.

My hand:  Silver Gold Gold Moat Tunnel

Opponent plays Militia.

I discard Moat and Tunnel  8)

I play Torturer

I'll take a Curse.

You damn well better, I'd much rather take a Province and a curse than a $3.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on September 02, 2013, 03:11:00 am
This (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=search2;params=eJwtj0uOwkAMBe_CZja1iO3ufE4ThY4lZhQIagKjkXL4cRC7culZz57m13QrPu9fe7Of9nM9KCsZ62ixBkF7dEAyMpAMS_RIS4ciQYIFKGqoIB0WsViNUbEWSaSebGQhD2hiIIdusIy2pIYkpOiMUokjHpf1dyzr9b745nHOoZ7nHy_buN6Wv49Z6xZUffH3Bx81zt819OyPchifarm8Yy9f_gHkKkR0) is a rather amusing search. It really revels a rather interesting keyword we've invented for Dominion.

I would note there are correct usages in that list.  Like mine.  :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on September 02, 2013, 02:11:12 pm
I randomly found my mom on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqDBpnCMQFc). She's singing in the opera choir.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 02, 2013, 11:17:57 pm
This is a wonderful read for any parents out there.

http://magicalchildhood.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/what-should-a-4-year-old-know/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 02, 2013, 11:59:27 pm
This is a wonderful read for any parents out there.

http://magicalchildhood.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/what-should-a-4-year-old-know/

I still remember when I was in preschool learning how to write "z", and I had to say what a zebra was dreaming about as well...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 03, 2013, 08:52:19 am
I randomly found my mom on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqDBpnCMQFc). She's singing in the opera choir.

(Insert childish joke about randomly finding your mom)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 03, 2013, 09:57:45 am
I randomly found my mom on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqDBpnCMQFc). She's singing in the opera choir.

(Insert childish joke about randomly finding your mom)

Heh, Kirian said insert.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on September 04, 2013, 01:16:26 pm
I've just discovered I'm addicted to mashups:

Kirby Like it's Hot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXzg0D-cKds)
Call Me a Hole (https://soundcloud.com/pomdeterrific/pomdeter-call-me-a-hole)
Oppa Spacejam Style (https://soundcloud.com/jhlodin/oppa-spacejam-style)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: greatexpectations on September 04, 2013, 01:23:09 pm
I've just discovered I'm addicted to mashups:

Kirby Like it's Hot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXzg0D-cKds)
Call Me a Hole (https://soundcloud.com/pomdeterrific/pomdeter-call-me-a-hole)
Oppa Spacejam Style (https://soundcloud.com/jhlodin/oppa-spacejam-style)

you should listen to some girl talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqOgJrvnJvg).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on September 04, 2013, 01:29:07 pm
I've just discovered I'm addicted to mashups:

Kirby Like it's Hot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXzg0D-cKds)
Call Me a Hole (https://soundcloud.com/pomdeterrific/pomdeter-call-me-a-hole)
Oppa Spacejam Style (https://soundcloud.com/jhlodin/oppa-spacejam-style)

you should listen to some girl talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqOgJrvnJvg).

Ohhhh, I love me some girl talk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 04, 2013, 09:55:58 pm
Mario Paint cover of "Get Lucky" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic01Vhiyrb4#t=194)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 04, 2013, 11:18:15 pm
My dad walked up to me earlier today asking, "If you have a cube, you find the area of it by multiplying it by three, right?"

Uh...  No...

Funny thing was, he was doing the right thing, just saying things wrong...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on September 05, 2013, 12:19:38 am
"If you have a cube, you find the area of it by multiplying it by three, right?"

That sounds like a a calculation done by Goko.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 05, 2013, 12:20:52 am
I just spelled "aneurysms" correctly on the first try without consulting anything so where is my award
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on September 05, 2013, 06:39:43 am
I just spelled "aneurysms" correctly on the first try without consulting anything so where is my award
You get a +1 from me
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 05, 2013, 08:48:05 am
I just spelled "aneurysms" correctly on the first try without consulting anything so where is my award
You get a +1 from me

Yesssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on September 05, 2013, 11:46:17 pm
I love this quote:

"Whenever my sister tells me that her friends make fun of her because she's adopted, I tell her to tell them that 'My parents got to choose me, yours got stuck with you.'"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 06, 2013, 02:19:46 am
This is a random question (fits with the thread though!) and I might not even use the answer, but could someone tell me a website where you can upload a program of some sort for people to download, preferably with things like a section for bug reports and stuff?  Something like github, but I don't think that would work because things are open source there...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 06, 2013, 02:02:25 pm
Just noticed my respect is currently a nice round number. Sweet.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/mk975e.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 06, 2013, 02:04:33 pm
Just noticed my respect is currently a nice round number. Sweet.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/mk975e.png)

Nice!  An eleven digit number :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 06, 2013, 02:04:58 pm
Just noticed my respect is currently a nice round number. Sweet.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/mk975e.png)

First off, the image doesn't work, and second, it isn't now.  >: )
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 06, 2013, 02:19:29 pm
Woah, I just passed 1000 posts recently!

And my respect-to-post ratio seems to have gone up...  It used to be about a third...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 06, 2013, 07:49:09 pm
I now believe my siblings when they said that their Junior year is the hardest...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on September 06, 2013, 08:38:43 pm
This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnpTcrtsN3U&list=PLbpi6ZahtOH6TT1EPtQ1nCpaSOBmo6iHL
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 06, 2013, 08:58:41 pm
I'm currently watching a speedrun of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (the train one). The chat currently has a one-track mind on letting off steam by conducting train puns.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 07, 2013, 09:25:42 pm
This is a random question (fits with the thread though!) and I might not even use the answer, but could someone tell me a website where you can upload a program of some sort for people to download, preferably with things like a section for bug reports and stuff?  Something like github, but I don't think that would work because things are open source there...

...I guess nobody likes me?   :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on September 07, 2013, 09:36:55 pm
Why does Tables have two respect counts?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on September 07, 2013, 09:37:47 pm
Why does Tables have two respect counts?
What the... oh, one of them is his tag line.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 07, 2013, 09:45:27 pm
Maybe I should put my "real" respect (including the post that has +940) there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 07, 2013, 10:32:52 pm
Why does Tables have two respect counts?

Was wondering when someone would question it :P.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on September 09, 2013, 04:57:30 am
That feel when carcrash.  :-\
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 09, 2013, 01:43:20 pm
This is a random question (fits with the thread though!) and I might not even use the answer, but could someone tell me a website where you can upload a program of some sort for people to download, preferably with things like a section for bug reports and stuff?  Something like github, but I don't think that would work because things are open source there...

...I guess nobody likes me?   :'(

Where's that "nobody likes me everybody hates me I'm gonna go eat worms" song?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: werothegreat on September 09, 2013, 01:49:14 pm
This is a random question (fits with the thread though!) and I might not even use the answer, but could someone tell me a website where you can upload a program of some sort for people to download, preferably with things like a section for bug reports and stuff?  Something like github, but I don't think that would work because things are open source there...

...I guess nobody likes me?   :'(

Where's that "nobody likes me everybody hates me I'm gonna go eat worms" song?

You mean:

"I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me..."
"HE'S JUST A POOR BOY FROM A POOR FAMILY"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on September 09, 2013, 02:03:47 pm
This is a random question (fits with the thread though!) and I might not even use the answer, but could someone tell me a website where you can upload a program of some sort for people to download, preferably with things like a section for bug reports and stuff?  Something like github, but I don't think that would work because things are open source there...

...I guess nobody likes me?   :'(

Google for "github private alternative" or "github closed source".  You could try Bitbucket or pay for a private git repo or run git off of dropbox.

More generally, do you really have to have it private? 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 09, 2013, 02:27:24 pm
This is a random question (fits with the thread though!) and I might not even use the answer, but could someone tell me a website where you can upload a program of some sort for people to download, preferably with things like a section for bug reports and stuff?  Something like github, but I don't think that would work because things are open source there...

...I guess nobody likes me?   :'(

Google for "github private alternative" or "github closed source".  You could try Bitbucket or pay for a private git repo or run git off of dropbox.

More generally, do you really have to have it private?

If this ever came to completion, it would be a zip file with the main thing being an exe...

Edit: And, just for clarification, I can't change that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 09, 2013, 03:27:04 pm
For all of you Risk fans out there.

(bonus panel on the website (http://www.mrlovenstein.com/comic/454#comic))

(http://www.mrlovenstein.com/images/comics/454_last_stand_at_indonesia.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on September 09, 2013, 10:43:28 pm
Oh my god, breaking bad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on September 10, 2013, 12:09:14 am
On a bright note, Risk Legacy gives Australia a giant middle finger. On my copy, Australia is not that great of a continent to start on anymore.

And the Ukraine is a giant radioactive zone.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimwithfivems on September 10, 2013, 12:23:15 am
<insert random witty post>
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 10, 2013, 11:47:25 am
As of this moment, my respect matches my user title. I chose +1058 as a random amount that I wouldn't reach for a few weeks, then suddenly managed to gain wads of respect. I'm not entirely sure what I did, although I suspect the fan card contest helped.

Edit: Aaaand it's gone.

As an aside I just looked at my user stats. Almost 10% of the posts in non-mafia games were made by me. That's kind of scary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 10, 2013, 07:18:56 pm
My facebook status I just posted:

"Today's been a pretty normal day, besides being attacked by a pit bull and going to the hospital.

...And don't worry, I'm fine."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on September 10, 2013, 07:43:59 pm
As an aside I just looked at my user stats. Almost 10% of the posts in non-mafia games were made by me. That's kind of scary.
4% for me. I don't think it's all too surprising - not that many people post in that forum.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 10, 2013, 08:48:20 pm
Is it possible to check who the top poster in an individual forum is? That might be interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on September 11, 2013, 11:59:47 am
Don't think so, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AdamH on September 12, 2013, 11:40:36 am
http://www.adamhorton.com/files/WTIRPMO.doc

Disclaimer: not a virus.

Warning: strong language.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 12, 2013, 02:20:22 pm
Agh, I hate the sound of my voice...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on September 12, 2013, 03:49:48 pm
Agh, I hate the sound of my voice...
Did you just record yourself speaking/singing or do you hate your actual voice?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 12, 2013, 03:55:55 pm
http://www.adamhorton.com/files/WTIRPMO.doc

Disclaimer: not a virus.

Warning: strong language.

This is great.  But I am very curious as to why you wrote it. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AdamH on September 12, 2013, 04:20:06 pm
I feel strongly about this subject.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 12, 2013, 04:38:00 pm
Sorry if this is old.

(http://i.imgur.com/TvYaYYr.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 12, 2013, 04:44:09 pm
Quote
Complexity?
More > 7 Wonders
Less > Dominion

Dominion has way more complexity IMO.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 12, 2013, 04:56:14 pm
Quote
Complexity?
More > 7 Wonders
Less > Dominion

Dominion has way more complexity IMO.

Ultimately, yeah, but it's generally easier to teach and play a single game of Dominion (only dealing with the terms and rules associated with that kingdom, and presuming an simpleish base set game) than 7 Wonders. 7 Wonders has the issue of learning icons.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on September 12, 2013, 05:11:56 pm
Le Havre does not take more than 2 hours... And both eHalc and Dsell are right... Also: I really liked that paper Adam.  So did my roommate
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 12, 2013, 05:29:54 pm
I feel a pressing need to redo that flowchart.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 12, 2013, 05:31:29 pm
"Cities and Knights" (presumably the Settlers expansion) appears under "constant hard choices".  Not sure I agree with that.  It certainly doesn't have the same feeling of "I need to do EVERYTHING" as Agricola.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on September 12, 2013, 05:38:39 pm
I feel a pressing need to redo that flowchart.
Can we please? TTA needs to be on there too.  And Innovation...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 12, 2013, 06:22:46 pm
I love how you get to Cribbage on there.

Agh, I hate the sound of my voice...
Did you just record yourself speaking/singing or do you hate your actual voice?

I started taking voice lessons and my teacher records the lesson and me practicing is me listening to the lesson, doing whatever I did during the lesson.  My singing voice is okay, but not my speaking voice...  I sound really stupid when recorded...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 12, 2013, 06:33:21 pm
I love how you get to Cribbage on there.

Agh, I hate the sound of my voice...
Did you just record yourself speaking/singing or do you hate your actual voice?

I started taking voice lessons and my teacher records the lesson and me practicing is me listening to the lesson, doing whatever I did during the lesson.  My singing voice is okay, but not my speaking voice...  I sound really stupid when recorded...

Solution: never stop singing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 12, 2013, 06:33:42 pm
I love how you get to Cribbage on there.

Agh, I hate the sound of my voice...
Did you just record yourself speaking/singing or do you hate your actual voice?

I started taking voice lessons and my teacher records the lesson and me practicing is me listening to the lesson, doing whatever I did during the lesson.  My singing voice is okay, but not my speaking voice...  I sound really stupid when recorded...

Solution: never stop singing.

Most of it was just talking...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 12, 2013, 06:35:44 pm
In other news, of all the new starter evolutions, I only really like Froakie.  Here's hoping that Chespin has an amazing final stage.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 12, 2013, 07:00:28 pm
In other news, of all the new starter evolutions, I only really like Froakie.  Here's hoping that Chespin has an amazing final stage.

Froakie is my least favorite, but his evolution is my favorite! Cannot wait to see final stages. Also, Fennekin's evolution's tail has a stick in it, which makes it look a lot like a witch's broom to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on September 13, 2013, 05:41:11 am
I started taking voice lessons and my teacher records the lesson and me practicing is me listening to the lesson, doing whatever I did during the lesson.  My singing voice is okay, but not my speaking voice...  I sound really stupid when recorded...
So, maybe your voice just sounds stupid, but I used to have the exact same problem. Nobody else ever seemed to think that my voice sounded stupid, though, and I got rid of the problem when I started recording my voice with an AKG P170 instead of the mic of my camera. And others I know have had similar experiences. Therefore, I believe that 1) what sounds stupid is not you, but the recording and 2) even if the recording sounds stupid, you're the only one who notices it because it's your own voice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 13, 2013, 09:50:25 am
I've heard that people hear their own voice as it resonates through their jawbone more than through their ear canal. So when you hear your voice on a recording you are heading your voice in a way that's entirely different from what you're used to, hence the strangeness.

(I hate nothing more than the sound of my recorded voice, despite the fact that I've been singing at a high level for years)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 13, 2013, 10:48:31 am
Do most people dislike the sound of their own voice on recordings because of something akin to the uncanny valley? That is, it sounds like themselves, but is 'distorted' just enough that they find it off putting?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 13, 2013, 11:18:26 am
I started taking voice lessons and my teacher records the lesson and me practicing is me listening to the lesson, doing whatever I did during the lesson.  My singing voice is okay, but not my speaking voice...  I sound really stupid when recorded...
So, maybe your voice just sounds stupid, but I used to have the exact same problem. Nobody else ever seemed to think that my voice sounded stupid, though, and I got rid of the problem when I started recording my voice with an AKG P170 instead of the mic of my camera. And others I know have had similar experiences. Therefore, I believe that 1) what sounds stupid is not you, but the recording and 2) even if the recording sounds stupid, you're the only one who notices it because it's your own voice.

Well, I've heard my voice on a bajillion different types of recording, so I don't think that's the problem.  He said that his mic that was recording was a good mic anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on September 13, 2013, 09:03:25 pm

(I hate nothing more than the sound of my recorded voice, despite the fact that I've been singing at a high level for years)


Would that high level be C?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 13, 2013, 09:12:54 pm

(I hate nothing more than the sound of my recorded voice, despite the fact that I've been singing at a high level for years)


Would that high level be C?

And sometimes a little higher. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on September 13, 2013, 09:14:10 pm

(I hate nothing more than the sound of my recorded voice, despite the fact that I've been singing at a high level for years)


Would that high level be C?

And sometimes a little higher. :P

Are you that blonde girl from School of Rock?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 13, 2013, 09:41:11 pm

(I hate nothing more than the sound of my recorded voice, despite the fact that I've been singing at a high level for years)


Would that high level be C?

And sometimes a little higher. :P

Are you that blonde girl from School of Rock?

Hey I love that movie! But no, I am not that blonde girl.

(Or blonde)

(Or a girl)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on September 13, 2013, 09:54:05 pm
My voice sounds really stupid on recordings. Especially since in my head I sound so much cooler.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on September 14, 2013, 11:26:47 am
(http://poorlydrawnlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/holding-doors.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 14, 2013, 11:34:01 am
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2mwxzm.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on September 14, 2013, 12:56:29 pm
Tables, come back to TTA :( Kirian and I miss you
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on September 15, 2013, 12:28:11 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/45c8e8659f167dc85dcc36b9f259d1f1/tumblr_msz6uphPun1rjggr6o1_1280.png) (http://www.googlepoetics.com)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 16, 2013, 01:48:09 am
Argh, why can't I remember the name of the thingy that says that if you take a number, and if it's odd you multiply it by 3 and add one, and if it's even you divide by two, you always reach one...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on September 16, 2013, 01:55:59 am
Argh, why can't I remember the name of the thingy that says that if you take a number, and if it's odd you multiply it by 3 and add one, and if it's even you divide by two, you always reach one...
Collatz conjecture
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 16, 2013, 09:57:48 pm
I recently found this comic (http://corpseruncomics.com/corpse-run-295-well-in-hand/) featuring Dominion. I don't think any other ones involve the game, especially judging from the text below the comic, and it's the age old joke but still.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on September 16, 2013, 10:14:26 pm
I recently found this comic (http://corpseruncomics.com/corpse-run-295-well-in-hand/) featuring Dominion. I don't think any other ones involve the game, especially judging from the text below the comic, and it's the age old joke but still.

There's this one too.

http://threepanelsoul.com/2013/05/13/on-gaming-pros/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on September 17, 2013, 12:21:49 am
I recently found this comic (http://corpseruncomics.com/corpse-run-295-well-in-hand/) featuring Dominion. I don't think any other ones involve the game, especially judging from the text below the comic, and it's the age old joke but still.

There's this one too.

http://threepanelsoul.com/2013/05/13/on-gaming-pros/
And this one. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5271.msg128540#msg128540) (Although I can't get the image to load on that page so I'm not sure it's still visible.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 17, 2013, 01:22:05 pm
I just equalled the WR in You Have to Win the Game (4:56). I'm not actually 100% certain that is the fastest run - I still feel like there's a 4:52 out there somewhere, but it feels good. The run is, however, definitely improvable. If I can get another second or two off I might upload it to YT, and/or Submit to SDA.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 17, 2013, 01:52:01 pm
I just equalled the WR in You Have to Win the Game (4:56). I'm not actually 100% certain that is the fastest run - I still feel like there's a 4:52 out there somewhere, but it feels good. The run is, however, definitely improvable. If I can get another second or two off I might upload it to YT, and/or Submit to SDA.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/YouHaveToWinTheGame.html

How come it says that the fastest time is 5:17?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 17, 2013, 02:02:10 pm
I just equalled the WR in You Have to Win the Game (4:56). I'm not actually 100% certain that is the fastest run - I still feel like there's a 4:52 out there somewhere, but it feels good. The run is, however, definitely improvable. If I can get another second or two off I might upload it to YT, and/or Submit to SDA.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/YouHaveToWinTheGame.html

How come it says that the fastest time is 5:17?



People don't always submit (new) records to SDA, especially when:
1) The quality is low (SDA hosts almost exclusively high quality videos)
2) A new route has been found, often leading to multiple new WRs within a short time
3) They forget
4) They do submit, but the new record gets stuck in the SDA pipes.

In this case it's a mixture of 1+2 - I discovered a trick which cuts off around 10-14 seconds, someone else discovered one that cuts off about the same. Now you might notice the WR is only around ~21 seconds faster than the SDA run, but I just said ~28 seconds could be cut off. That should give you an idea of the quality/level of refinement on the WR run - the run might be faster, but it looks a bit sloppier. Part of that is because of new, difficult tricks, but also, it means people are still beating the WR a little more frequently.

The best way to find out the WR is to look on the twitch pages of the best runners. In this case Ibldedibble (the current SDA record holder) says he has a 4:56, which is what I now have. But even those aren't necessarily up to date.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 17, 2013, 03:25:09 pm
Also it turns out Ibldedibble has a 4:51 run, meaning it's still 5 seconds from the WR. That's a really solid run, I don't think I can match that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 17, 2013, 03:39:08 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/50ef07d6a1d08be792886c70f715285b/tumblr_mt6j2vy2B31r3o0ulo1_500.jpg)

Is this true?   :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 17, 2013, 05:16:21 pm
Reclining airplane seats are some of the worst things in existence.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on September 17, 2013, 05:48:52 pm
Also it turns out Ibldedibble has a 4:51 run, meaning it's still 5 seconds from the WR. That's a really solid run, I don't think I can match that.

This is why I am semi-glad the VVVVVV world record is so untouchable. For perspective, the time is 13:04 (or 13:05) and it's almost 30 seconds faster than the next fastest time. My PB is 13:57, and I pretty much know there's no way I can challenge the WR, so I don't have incentive to try to keep playing if I get tired of the game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 17, 2013, 07:01:45 pm
Reclining airplane seats are some of the worst things in existence.

In my experience, they never recline enough to improve my comfort as the sitter.  The lack of reclining etiquette, on the other hand, has caused plenty of spills and such when the individual in front of me reclines suddenly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 17, 2013, 07:07:20 pm
Also it turns out Ibldedibble has a 4:51 run, meaning it's still 5 seconds from the WR. That's a really solid run, I don't think I can match that.

This is why I am semi-glad the VVVVVV world record is so untouchable. For perspective, the time is 13:04 (or 13:05) and it's almost 30 seconds faster than the next fastest time. My PB is 13:57, and I pretty much know there's no way I can challenge the WR, so I don't have incentive to try to keep playing if I get tired of the game.

I think I've seen that run, VVVVVV is also a semi-popular speedrunning game, so the record is really good. But for YHTWTG, there's only three runners I know of and none run the game regularly, and that means nobody really good has taken the game and done amazing things with it. Which is a shame - I actually think it's a really good speedrunning games - there's timesavers and the like right from about 10 seconds in, and there's pretty constant action with the breaks being generally no longer than ~10 seconds. The tricks are also not too hard to learn - there's one trick towards the end which has about a two frame window, but if you fail it you only lose a few seconds and get another try immediately (or you can skip it going the long way and lose ~10 seconds)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 17, 2013, 07:15:08 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/50ef07d6a1d08be792886c70f715285b/tumblr_mt6j2vy2B31r3o0ulo1_500.jpg)

Is this true?   :o

It sounds pretty unbelievable to me. Like doesn't your skin shed itself pretty often anyway? I'm not that hot on my biology so I'm not certain, but yeah, I wouldn't have thought it would be that long for a cut to fully heal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 17, 2013, 07:18:48 pm
OK I went and searched a bit and found this:

http://beranger.org/2013/09/16/yet-another-pseudo-scientific-fact/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 18, 2013, 09:11:20 am
Dear theory,

I think I should become a moderator or site admin. Here's what I would bring to the site

Drastically cut down on spam: By banning, say, half of all members at random, spam should be reduced by about 1/2.

Reverse occupy the Random Stuff Thread: Right now, 99% of the users control that thread. I propose we lock it and make it moderator only, so we can be the 1% again

Give the non-mafia games their rightful place as the topmost board on the forum: No explanation needed

Become the best Dominion player on the site: Probably by trying to get better at the game for an hour or two, and if that fails, just banning everyone above me on the leaderboard.

Add Americanisations onto an autocorrect list: For the benefit of my other UK board users (except Rabid, TINAS and Jack Rudd since they're probably getting banned by the above - sorry). We're sick of seeing you spell colour without the u, and throwing z's into every other word. Would be mandatory so you can finally learn some proper grammar.

Improve the site layout by providing extra skin colours: I'm probably going for bright green and bright yellow to best compliment the current blue skin.

Anyway as you can hopefully see I would bring a new and unique dynamic to the site. I look forward to you accepting my application.

Kind regards,

Tables.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on September 18, 2013, 09:30:58 am
Improve the site layout by providing extra skin colours

I didn't read your whole post but colors is the correct spelling of that pluralization.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 18, 2013, 09:38:25 am
and throwing z's into every other word

I'm sorry, I have never heard of z's.  Perhaps you meant z's?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: greatexpectations on September 18, 2013, 09:39:14 am
Improve the site layout by providing extra skin colours

I didn't read your whole post but colors is the correct spelling of that pluralization.

i will also accept the spelling 'colorz' in this case.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on September 18, 2013, 09:51:49 am
Add Americanisations onto an autocorrect list: For the benefit of my other UK board users

You gained my full support here.

Quote
(except Rabid, TINAS and Jack Rudd since they're probably getting banned by the above - sorry).

And lost it here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on September 18, 2013, 09:56:50 am
Pfft.  What do the British know about English.  How do you trust a nation that thinks Leicester and Chomondeley have only two syllables each?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on September 18, 2013, 10:16:00 am
Pfft.  What do the British know about English.  How do you trust a nation that thinks Leicester and Chomondeley have only two syllables each?

That's why I don't trust people from Massachusetts. Worcester. Really?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 18, 2013, 10:32:37 am
Pfft.  What do the British know about English.  How do you trust a nation that thinks Leicester and Chomondeley have only two syllables each?

Brits secretly like the French, it's why they have all those weird silent letters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 18, 2013, 10:37:35 am
Pfft.  What do the British know about English.  How do you trust a nation that thinks Leicester and Chomondeley have only two syllables each?

I can't imagine a pronounciation of Leicester that has not two syllables. Like, what do you say? Lay-ses-ter? Lie-ses-ter? I've not heard of Chomondeley so I can't comment on that, I would probably try and pronounce it Chom-on-del-lee.

Also theory I think you forgot to make me a mod.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on September 18, 2013, 10:38:43 am
I haven't read anything Dominion-related on here in several months. I only frequent the Miscellaneous forums, like forum games and random threads. I read more in the Other Board Games forum than I do in the Dominion forums.

Does this make me a bad person?

Also, I played Guild this week for the first time, despite buying it at Origins.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 18, 2013, 10:49:56 am
Pfft.  What do the British know about English.  How do you trust a nation that thinks Leicester and Chomondeley have only two syllables each?

I can't imagine a pronounciation of Leicester that has not two syllables. Like, what do you say? Lay-ses-ter? Lie-ses-ter?

lie-ches-ter

laɪ-tʃe-tɝɹ

Edit: better IPA.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on September 19, 2013, 01:34:55 am
I've literally lost over 600 points on my Goko rating through bad play, decisions, and inactivity, and it's really irritating, because every game I can see the turn where I messed it up and it's stuff I should have known better than to do.

Oddly enough this hasn't carried over to Gokodom, where I'm doing far better than I should be doing.

So I have no idea what's going on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on September 19, 2013, 05:18:41 pm
Happy Talk Like A Pirate Day!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on September 19, 2013, 05:20:53 pm
Happy Talk Like A Pirate Day!
Yar.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on September 20, 2013, 04:01:04 pm
There simply are not that many relevant images that come up when you Google "Cookie Monster Godzilla."

I can't help but think this reflects a major failing in our society.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on September 21, 2013, 06:16:04 am
I found out about this album (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWiQCxdcR8Q), which is a series of metal arrangements for one of the Touhou game's soundtrack, of which each arrangement borrows/pays tribute to a lot of Western bands the group is fans off. (I've heard this is actually fairly common in the arranging world.)

The transitions are a little rough, but this is now one of my favorite song collections.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 21, 2013, 03:46:20 pm
How the hell did I get this in the wrong thread?

From the TMI Department: Continue at your own risk...

That strange moment when your toddler is having constipation troubles, and your wife quotes Austin Powers to you.  "Who does Number Two work for?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on September 23, 2013, 09:38:48 am
That strange moment when your toddler is having constipation troubles, and your wife quotes Austin Powers to you.  "Who does Number Two work for?"

Sounds like an awesome wife to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on September 23, 2013, 10:09:41 am
Nope, I am #800
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 23, 2013, 10:11:04 am
No, I'M Spartacus!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 23, 2013, 10:13:33 am
I'm Brian, and so's my wife!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 23, 2013, 09:42:19 pm
I realised earlier today that I miss having Qvist in the community. Qvist, if you're reading this, know that we want you back. And this isn't just a thinly veiled attempt to get extra respect
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on September 24, 2013, 03:47:09 pm
One of my friends admitted that she didn't like Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog. I may have to unfriend her.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 24, 2013, 05:57:53 pm
I felt that this probably didn't deserve it's own thread:

1.) I really like Super Mario World! It's one my favorite Mario games for sure (Super Mario 3 is a close contender), and probably one of my favorite games of all time. Of course part of the reason for this is that they were definitive games of my childhood, but I still think they're pretty objectively high-quality.

2.) I also like stupid computer projects! You may know this about me by now.

3.) Combining these two interests, I created a "mod" or "level pack" of sorts for SMW! This was a few years ago, but I dug it up in my files just now and I thought I'd post it here. Maybe somebody else will find it intriguing! You'll need an SNES ROM emulator of some kind (I use ZSNES (http://www.zsnes.com/) personally) in order to play, and a game controller is recommended.

Some notes:
1.) These levels are pretty ridiculous. Some of them require dexterity, others cleverness, others an arcane willingness to experiment with the fundamental laws of nature. Some of them are just downright odd. All of them however are personally tested and solvable. You might want to use save states though haha

2.) Because of this, all levels in the game start out unlocked, so you can just browse through them. The levels are presented linearly in approximately the order that they were created, so you can see my technique develop. There are levels up through the beginning of Chocolate Island ("Kaizo Homage" is the last level), so just keep trying to move different directions and you should be able to walk through even if a level is incomplete. In particular, after the first map screen, you can walk north through the lake to proceed.

3.) There's an odd vulgarity thrown in here or there...one F-word and one B-word in the level titles from what I remember. A relic of my devil-may-care college days. If you're really offended by anything...I'm sorry.

4.) The first level "This is Cheating" shows you all the things that you are theoretically not allowed to do in order to beat my other levels, even though they are possible. Honestly though, this is just because of oversights I had made when creating the levels initially, so if you find a simpler solution to any of these than go for it. However if you want the full experience you'll want to refrain from this prohibited behavior.

5.) If you only look at one level, I would recommend "Into the Black Hole", on the second map screen in the middle of the lake. It took me ages to figure out how to get the blocks to work like that. "Shrieking Madness" has a certain stark beauty to it. The level "Sky Captain" has only been completed once ever, by me. If you can finish it and provide evidence, I will personally mail you a Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwich as a prize.

6.) I was working on even more experimental things by messing with the assembly and hex code, including a power-up that lets you shoot fireballs that create and destroy bricks! But right around that time I got bored with this particular side project, so that ability is not incorporated in any of these levels unfortunately.

7.) Would you believe that the uncompressed file was 1 KB above the maximum attachment size for this forum?? I guess rules are rules. So here it is in a zip folder.

Let me know if you have any questions or feedback! Anybody else ever dabble in anything like this?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on September 24, 2013, 06:04:48 pm
If you can finish it and provide evidence, I will personally mail you a Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwich as a prize.

SO WORTH IT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on September 25, 2013, 08:56:53 am
I felt that this probably didn't deserve it's own thread:...
7.) Would you believe that the uncompressed file was 1 KB above the maximum attachment size for this forum?? I guess rules are rules. So here it is in a zip folder.

Let me know if you have any questions or feedback! Anybody else ever dabble in anything like this?

You really shouldn't upload ROMs, since they're illegal (even ROMhacks). It's much better to use a program like LunarIPS and create a patch, which people can then apply themselves if they have a copy of the relevant ROM (or find it on another site, if they need it). As an extra bonus a patch is usually only a few KBs, or less.

And yeah I dabble in ROMhacking. Well, more I dabble in the numbers. Nightmare based hacks, nothing sophisticated (yours sounds the same, although the program might be not Nightmare but something else similar). Mostly I take Fire Emblem games and make them harder.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 25, 2013, 12:13:13 pm
Good point Tables...Move along, Internet coppers, nothing to see here...

I made it mostly using "Lunar Magic", a comprehensive editing program specifically for Super Mario World. I considered posting the patch for that instead, but I didn't think anybody would go through the hassle of setting it up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on September 28, 2013, 06:47:56 am
Roosters are leading at halftime.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 28, 2013, 09:00:49 am
Roosters are leading at halftime.

Don't get too cocky.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on September 28, 2013, 12:03:47 pm
Roosters are leading at halftime.

Don't get too cocky.

This just killed me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on September 28, 2013, 11:49:09 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/c9def16def0d5db732e1e23b1d0704bd/tumblr_mtsvw2K1uS1rogcuio1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on September 29, 2013, 08:50:29 pm
The US state of Wyoming has only two escalators.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on September 29, 2013, 09:33:34 pm
The US state of Wyoming has only two escalators.
No idea what this means, but I'm sure it be would hilarious if I did, so +1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on September 29, 2013, 10:43:57 pm
The US state of Wyoming has only two escalators.
No idea what this means, but I'm sure it be would hilarious if I did, so +1.

Do you live in Wyoming?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 30, 2013, 02:09:44 am
(http://i.imgur.com/7AjCQxO.png)

For the extremely small cross section of Doctor Who fans and parents of small children.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on September 30, 2013, 07:41:13 am
The US state of Wyoming has only two escalators.
No idea what this means, but I'm sure it be would hilarious if I did, so +1.

Do you live in Wyoming?
No.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on September 30, 2013, 01:00:32 pm
That is not Mr. Conductor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on September 30, 2013, 02:53:55 pm
Roosters are leading at halftime.

Don't get too cocky.

Ooh, your pun was just fowl.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on September 30, 2013, 03:40:06 pm
The Binding of Isaac is pretty fun, in an exploration/learning about the game rules way. Maybe I'll try out Nethack sometime, except from my understanding Nethack runs take a lot longer than Isaac runs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on September 30, 2013, 03:58:49 pm
The Binding of Isaac is pretty fun, in an exploration/learning about the game rules way. Maybe I'll try out Nethack sometime, except from my understanding Nethack runs take a lot longer than Isaac runs.
Ever play FTL?
The video game, not the person
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on September 30, 2013, 04:03:23 pm
The Binding of Isaac is pretty fun, in an exploration/learning about the game rules way. Maybe I'll try out Nethack sometime, except from my understanding Nethack runs take a lot longer than Isaac runs.

Nethack is a very special sort of game, insofar as it is an RPG that doesn't happen in real time.  It is also very, very unforgiving.  I strongly recommend not playing unspoiled, unless you get a kick out of that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 30, 2013, 04:05:57 pm
The Binding of Isaac is pretty fun, in an exploration/learning about the game rules way. Maybe I'll try out Nethack sometime, except from my understanding Nethack runs take a lot longer than Isaac runs.

Nethack is a very special sort of game, insofar as it is an RPG that doesn't happen in real time.  It is also very, very unforgiving.  I strongly recommend not playing unspoiled, unless you get a kick out of that sort of thing.

Hey, I played it unspoiled for ages and one time even made it to the Castle!  Soon after that I started looking on the wiki though...

I would actually suggest playing unspoiled for a fair bit of time, it keeps you from being overwhelmed.  When you feel like you have a good feel for the game (and all the controls, there are a LOT), you should start looking at spoilers if you choose.

Also, in the guidebook (I think), they say that "nethack" and "NetHack" are two acceptable ways of spelling it, but "Nethack" is NOT one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 30, 2013, 04:10:56 pm
NetHack is the greatest. I've sunk far, FAR too many hours into that game.

I'm working on a Roguelike of my own but who knows if it will ever see the light of day...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on September 30, 2013, 04:14:52 pm
I have a file on alt.org in NetHack where I am destroying the dungeon.  I will leave EVERYTHING an empty lit whatever-square-it-is.  All monsters will be extinct as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on September 30, 2013, 04:59:55 pm
Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup is much better than NetHack, IMO.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on September 30, 2013, 06:46:22 pm
Watch out, fuzzy little dude.

http://imgur.com/gallery/IPD81sZ
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on September 30, 2013, 08:56:57 pm
I'm semi-spoiled on NetHack, in that I have never played a game but I read a screenshot-based Let's Play that went from start to ascension, and I've read the TvTropes page for it.

I probably won't start it though, at least not until I know I have blocks of time I want to waste.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on October 01, 2013, 12:23:10 am
Did anyone else pour their heart and soul into Amalur only to see Curt Schilling's game company go up in flames?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 01, 2013, 11:43:21 am
Watch out, fuzzy little dude.

http://imgur.com/gallery/IPD81sZ
yes
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on October 02, 2013, 11:39:03 am
I've never seen a supercar in this color but suddenly I wish all supercars were this color:

(http://i.imgur.com/GlUoxFn.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 02, 2013, 03:34:12 pm
Apparently one of my youtube videos that I've never linked to anywhere has gotten traffic from places other than youtube.

Somebody, somewhere, has.....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 02, 2013, 08:07:11 pm
I've never seen a supercar in this color but suddenly I wish all supercars were this color:

[Car]

My goodness that car is ugly. Colour is decent, but ugh, that design.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on October 02, 2013, 08:14:47 pm
Those rearview mirror flags though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 02, 2013, 11:25:41 pm
Yo, I found this game Manufactoria. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.kongregate.com/games/PleasingFungus/manufactoria

It's basically Turing Machines: The Game. Kind of maddening, but in a good sort of way, and I liked it so much I played through the whole thing. I thought that the algorithmically-minded crowd around here might appreciate it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 03, 2013, 01:13:36 am
Yo, I found this game Manufactoria. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.kongregate.com/games/PleasingFungus/manufactoria

It's basically Turing Machines: The Game. Kind of maddening, but in a good sort of way, and I liked it so much I played through the whole thing. I thought that the algorithmically-minded crowd around here might appreciate it.

Not nearly as good as the various stuff from Zachtronics:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/krispykrem/the-codex-of-alchemical-engineering
http://www.kongregate.com/games/krispykrem/kohctpyktop-engineer-of-the-people

And those are just his two free ones.  Spacechem is long and very well-done:

http://www.spacechemthegame.com/

I haven't yet played Ironclad Tactics, but all indications are that it's good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 03, 2013, 01:26:15 am
Yo, I found this game Manufactoria. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.kongregate.com/games/PleasingFungus/manufactoria

It's basically Turing Machines: The Game. Kind of maddening, but in a good sort of way, and I liked it so much I played through the whole thing. I thought that the algorithmically-minded crowd around here might appreciate it.

Not nearly as good as the various stuff from Zachtronics:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/krispykrem/the-codex-of-alchemical-engineering
http://www.kongregate.com/games/krispykrem/kohctpyktop-engineer-of-the-people

And those are just his two free ones.  Spacechem is long and very well-done:

http://www.spacechemthegame.com/

I haven't yet played Ironclad Tactics, but all indications are that it's good.

Haha yeah I played SpaceChem too! Also a brilliant game. That's how I discovered this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 03, 2013, 06:20:05 pm
Does anybody here know how to consistently sing in falsetto?  Mine Mint only works half the time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 03, 2013, 06:29:02 pm
Does it have to sound good? ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 03, 2013, 06:37:31 pm
Does it have to sound good? ;)

Um, somewhat-ish?  I at least need to stay on the same note, something that fails when my voice is too warmed up (it's weird, when my voice isn't warmed up at all, I can't do it, when it's somewhat warmed up it's the best, and when it's fully warmed up I can't do it or it keeps on changing notes).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 03, 2013, 06:42:25 pm
Does anybody here know how to consistently sing in falsetto?  Mine Mint only works half the time.

What do you mean it only works half the time? Like, half the time no sound comes out, or half the time you can't, I guess for lack of a better term, "remember" how to go into your falsetto? Also, are you trying to hit extremely high notes, notes just above your usual range, or somewhere in the middle?

Ppe: ok, I see what you mean. Hmm. Maybe if you know you'll be using your falsetto, warm up with those notes too. Try to do similar exercises but like an octave up. Disclaimer: I'm not a professional or anything, but I do sing often, including with my falsetto.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 03, 2013, 06:58:12 pm
Does anybody here know how to consistently sing in falsetto?  Mine Mint only works half the time.

What do you mean it only works half the time? Like, half the time no sound comes out, or half the time you can't, I guess for lack of a better term, "remember" how to go into your falsetto? Also, are you trying to hit extremely high notes, notes just above your usual range, or somewhere in the middle?

Ppe: ok, I see what you mean. Hmm. Maybe if you know you'll be using your falsetto, warm up with those notes too. Try to do similar exercises but like an octave up. Disclaimer: I'm not a professional or anything, but I do sing often, including with my falsetto.

By "warm-up" I mean just singing a bunch.  After I sing a bunch, my normal voice can manage to get a bit higher.  But then my falsetto usually doesn't work.  It gets restarted the next day.  It's fine if you can't help me, I'm just trying to clarify.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 03, 2013, 07:50:23 pm
Does anybody here know how to consistently sing in falsetto?  Mine Mint only works half the time.

Be Freddy Mercury.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 03, 2013, 07:52:02 pm
I feel amazing because I completely stopped your guys' Mint/Mine jokes by incorporating it in there in the first place.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 03, 2013, 07:57:30 pm
Just make your vocal cords go like this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Vocal_fold_falsett_animated.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 03, 2013, 08:54:13 pm
Why do onions hate us so much they make us cry?


(Can anyone guess what I was just doing?)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 03, 2013, 09:56:27 pm
Why do onions hate us so much they make us cry?


(Can anyone guess what I was just doing?)

Beating up vegetables?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on October 04, 2013, 06:32:54 am
Does anybody here know how to consistently sing in falsetto?  Mine Mint only works half the time.
Speaking of Mint, I've found that drinking mint tea before singing helps with singing in falsetto. I pretty much always can start singing in falsetto, but sometimes it starts sounding bad after a while and mint tea delays this effect. Maybe the effect is purely psychological, but it still works. At least half the time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 04, 2013, 09:31:17 am
Does anybody here know how to consistently sing in falsetto?  Mine Mint only works half the time.
Speaking of Mint, I've found that drinking mint tea before singing helps with singing in falsetto. I pretty much always can start singing in falsetto, but sometimes it starts sounding bad after a while and mint tea delays this effect. Maybe the effect is purely psychological, but it still works. At least half the time.

So half the time, you are able to sing for an above average length of time?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 04, 2013, 10:28:38 am
Does anybody here know how to consistently sing in falsetto?  Mine Mint only works half the time.
Speaking of Mint, I've found that drinking mint tea before singing helps with singing in falsetto. I pretty much always can start singing in falsetto, but sometimes it starts sounding bad after a while and mint tea delays this effect. Maybe the effect is purely psychological, but it still works. At least half the time.

So half the time, you are able to sing for an above average length of time?

The placebo effect: helping people ignore statistics since humans first formed tribes and elevated medicine men who said "Here, chew this bark."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 04, 2013, 03:56:57 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/17896d446b18eaab9fd4c07d1b0e1ea8/tumblr_mtj3oz164M1rephako1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 04, 2013, 04:08:33 pm
source?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 04, 2013, 04:28:11 pm
source?

Did you try coming up with the answers?
1) Never----
2) Going----
3) To-------
4) Give-----
5) You-----
6) Up------
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 04, 2013, 04:30:08 pm
well yeah, I did get the answers. I didn't think of them like a sentence though...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 04, 2013, 04:32:33 pm
Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ) the source.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 04, 2013, 04:33:26 pm
Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ) the source.

I should have thought of that.  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 04, 2013, 04:43:49 pm
oh wow. I only just got it. That was a good one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 04, 2013, 05:51:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/bLcB9Xw.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 04, 2013, 06:19:20 pm
I remember when my math would have me complete the square to solve equations.  That took forever.  Then they were saying how you could complete the square to the generic form of a quadratic equation to make the quadratic formula.  Way easier to use.

There was another type of question that was taking me ages to do, finding the distance from a point to a line.  They told me to find the line perpendicular to the original line going through the point, finding the point they intersect at, then use the distance formula to find the distance.  I was thinking, why not do the same thing for this as completing the square?  I thought it wouldn't take too long, and to show how long it took, I will put it here:

Equation for line:
y1 = ax1 + b1, point: (x, y) (as per Table's suggestion, I am renaming these x's and y's)

Equation of perpendicular line:
y1 = -x1/a + b2 (b2 is equal to y + x/a, but my original notes didn't insert it until later, so that's what I'll do here.)

Solving for x1:
ax1 + b1 = -x1/a + b2
x1 = a(b2 - b1)/(a2 + 1)

Now let's replace b2 with y+x/a (and call b1 b now):
a(y + x/a - b)/(a2 + 1)
(ay + x - ab)/(a2 + 1)

So, y1 is x1 times a, + b:
((ay + x - ab)/(a2 + 1))(a) + b
(a2y + ax - a2b) + a2b + b
(a2y + ax + b)/(a2 + 1)

Now, let's put this into the distance formula:
sqrt(((ay + x - ab)/(a2 + 1) - x)2 + ((a2y + ax + b)/(a2 + 1) - y)2)

Now, let's simplify that a bit, taking the x part:
(ay + x - ab)/(a2 + 1) - x
ay + x - ab - a2x - x
(a2x + ay - ab)/(a2 + 1)

And the y part:
(a2y + ax + b)/(a2 + 1) - y
a2y + ax + b - a2y - y
(ax + b - y)/(a2 + 1)

So, squaring and adding these:
((a2x + ay - ab)/(a2 + 1))2 + ((ax + b - y)/(a2 + 1))2
((a2x + ay - ab)/(a2 + 1))2
a2y2 - 2a2by - 2a3xy + a2b2 + a3xb + a4x2
((ax + b - y)/(a2 + 1))2
a2x2 + 2abx - 2axy + b2 - 2by + y2
(I'm rearranging this for the ease of future simplification)
a4x2 + a2x2 + 2a3bx + 2abx - 2a3xy - 2axy - 2a2by - 2by + a2b2 + b2 + a2y2 + y2

Now, at this point, I couldn't find a way to simplify it further.  I put it in wolframalpha to figure out the simplest form of it.  After I figured that out, I realized how to simplify it.  First, factor all this:

a2x2(a2 + 1) + 2abx(a2 + 1) - 2axy(a2 + 1) - 2by(a2 + 1) + b2(a2 + 1) + y2(a2 + 1)

Factor out the (a2 + 1)

(a2 + 1)(a2x2 + 2abx - 2axy - 2by + b2 + y2)

If you paid attention, the second term here is the same as the square of the numerator of y1, so it turns into this:

(a2 + 1)(ax + b - y)2

Putting this back into the original equation gives us this:

sqrt(((a2 + 1)(ax + b - y)2)/(a2 + 1)2)
(sqrt(a2 + 1))(ax + b - y)/(a2 + 1)
(ax + b - y)/sqrt(a2 + 1)

EDIT: so, you need to take the absolute value of either the numerator of this or the whole answer, whichever you feel like.


So yay, a formula for the distance from a point to a line.  This is way easier than the long method.  I think I deserve extra math points for figuring this out on paper, and not making any mistakes.  And, the sad thing is, this is probably pretty easy compared to more advanced stuff...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 04, 2013, 08:18:52 pm
So yay, a formula for the distance from a point to a line.  This is way easier than the long method.  I think I deserve extra math points for figuring this out on paper, and not making any mistakes.  And, the sad thing is, this is probably pretty easy compared to more advanced stuff...

Nicely done. I once did the same thing for finding the generic quadratic of the form y=ax2+bx+c which went through three given points (all having different x values). That one took a little while, I ended up sitting at my cousin's 18th birthday party scrawling notes on the back of a paper plate as I worked it out, but I did get it to work. I'm sure with my improved knowledge of maths nowadays I could simply my solution.

Things like this are an excercise in putting together what you know into an interesting application. What you've found would be extremely useful in, for example, programming, where such a formula would be how a computer program finds such a distance. But compared to advanced mathematics they don't even properly compare. This is an application of (relatively) basic ideas, while higher level maths is much more about developing ideas into more complex methods. Of course, you can and should still do the same things there - using those more advanced methods, generalising and making interesting theorems and ideas from them.

I would recommend in the future, that you always avoid labelling things with the same variable if possible. So calling your first equation y = ax + b, call the point (u,v). Then your second (perpendicular) equation becomes y = -x/a + v + u/a, and there's no confusion, right from the start.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 04, 2013, 09:18:30 pm
Suppose you'd like to find a parabola passing through (a,u), (b,v), and (c,w) where a, b, and c are distinct.

We do this by writing our parabola as a sum of three other parabolas y = y1 + y2 + y3, where the latter parabolas pass through the following points

y1:  (a,u)   (b,0)   (c,0)
y2:  (a,0)   (b,v)   (c,0)
y3:  (a,0)   (b,0)   (c,w)

Let's start with y1.  We can get a parabola passing through (b,0) and (c,0) by just taking (x-b)(x-c).  Now to get it through (a,u) we just need to rescale it to take on the value u at x=a.

y1 = u*[ (x-b)(x-c) ]/[ (a-b)(a-c) ]

Then do the same for the other two:

y2 = v*[ (x-a)(x-c) ]/[ (b-a)(b-c) ]
y3 = w*[ (x-a)(x-b) ]/[ (c-a)(c-b) ]
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 04, 2013, 10:51:29 pm
So yay, a formula for the distance from a point to a line.  This is way easier than the long method.  I think I deserve extra math points for figuring this out on paper, and not making any mistakes.  And, the sad thing is, this is probably pretty easy compared to more advanced stuff...

Nicely done. I once did the same thing for finding the generic quadratic of the form y=ax2+bx+c which went through three given points (all having different x values). That one took a little while, I ended up sitting at my cousin's 18th birthday party scrawling notes on the back of a paper plate as I worked it out, but I did get it to work. I'm sure with my improved knowledge of maths nowadays I could simply my solution.

Isn't that the quadratic formula?  My math book explained the whole way of doing that then made me do it for several lessons afterwards...

Also, I didn't think about that for the x and y.  That's a good idea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 04, 2013, 11:24:17 pm
So yay, a formula for the distance from a point to a line.  This is way easier than the long method.  I think I deserve extra math points for figuring this out on paper, and not making any mistakes.  And, the sad thing is, this is probably pretty easy compared to more advanced stuff...

Nicely done. I once did the same thing for finding the generic quadratic of the form y=ax2+bx+c which went through three given points (all having different x values). That one took a little while, I ended up sitting at my cousin's 18th birthday party scrawling notes on the back of a paper plate as I worked it out, but I did get it to work. I'm sure with my improved knowledge of maths nowadays I could simply my solution.

Isn't that the quadratic formula?  My math book explained the whole way of doing that then made me do it for several lessons afterwards...

Also, I didn't think about that for the x and y.  That's a good idea.

No, the quadratic formula is basically reverse engineering parabolas - in a parabola, you take x and it ouputs a y. With the quadratic formula by tweaking the c value (assuming you use y=ax2+bx+c, you effectively input y and it outputs the x values (if any exist*) which give that y. This is about creating a new equation just given a few points.

*Assuming you're working with real numbers, otherwise things let a little more fun.

Suppose you'd like to find a parabola passing through (a,u), (b,v), and (c,w) where a, b, and c are distinct.

We do this by writing our parabola as a sum of three other parabolas y = y1 + y2 + y3, where the latter parabolas pass through the following points

y1:  (a,u)   (b,0)   (c,0)
y2:  (a,0)   (b,v)   (c,0)
y3:  (a,0)   (b,0)   (c,w)

Let's start with y1.  We can get a parabola passing through (b,0) and (c,0) by just taking (x-b)(x-c).  Now to get it through (a,u) we just need to rescale it to take on the value u at x=a.

y1 = u*[ (x-b)(x-c) ]/[ (a-b)(a-c) ]

Then do the same for the other two:

y2 = v*[ (x-a)(x-c) ]/[ (b-a)(b-c) ]
y3 = w*[ (x-a)(x-b) ]/[ (c-a)(c-b) ]

This is amazing and awesome and also way simpler than the method I used (mine involved using the average slopes between different points in some way to find the value of a then worked from there somehow)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 05, 2013, 12:12:43 am
This is directed at the user "pingpongsam":

Your name reminds me of the intro song to one of the Strong Bad emails where he sings, "My name is not Email Sam, ooh aah, so please don't call me Email Sam, ooh aah." It even works because your name isn't Email Sam. It's pingpongsam.

Just thought you should know.

http://youtu.be/APfE8HcKjnA?t=4s
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on October 05, 2013, 09:52:30 am
Anyone here read Flatland?  Seems like a book f.dsers would like.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 05, 2013, 12:11:28 pm
Anyone here read Flatland?  Seems like a book f.dsers would like.

Oh yeah, I did, I liked it a lot.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 05, 2013, 12:50:41 pm
Anyone here read Flatland?  Seems like a book f.dsers would like.

Yeah, it was interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on October 05, 2013, 02:02:02 pm
Anyone here read Flatland?  Seems like a book f.dsers would like.
I watched it in math once.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 05, 2013, 02:09:52 pm
This is directed at the user "pingpongsam":

Your name reminds me of the intro song to one of the Strong Bad emails where he sings, "My name is not Email Sam, ooh aah, so please don't call me Email Sam, ooh aah." It even works because your name isn't Email Sam. It's pingpongsam.

Just thought you should know.


That I randomly chose to read this thread and skipped to this page to see where it all went only to see this must mean something, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 05, 2013, 03:08:22 pm
read 'Shape of Space' by Jeffery Weeks.  It's flatland-like
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 05, 2013, 03:11:18 pm
read 'Shape of Space' by Jeffery Weeks.  It's flatland-like

Is it still a satirical piece of social commentary, or is just some geeky geometry thing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 05, 2013, 03:14:42 pm
read 'Shape of Space' by Jeffery Weeks.  It's flatland-like

Is it still a satirical piece of social commentary, or is just some geeky geometry thing?
Nope, just math; I wrote a knot theory thesis about some of his thinkings.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 06, 2013, 10:49:20 am
Yo, I found this game Manufactoria. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.kongregate.com/games/PleasingFungus/manufactoria

It's basically Turing Machines: The Game. Kind of maddening, but in a good sort of way, and I liked it so much I played through the whole thing. I thought that the algorithmically-minded crowd around here might appreciate it.
I got a question about this.  I'm working on my programs, cool and good.  I succeed from time to time.  When I fail, the program gives me a clear indication of precisely the type of string I'm judging incorrectly.  However...when I succeed, the program shows me a single bot moving around, but gives like 3 or more ticker-tapes that I'm 'reading'.  It seems to only follow the first.  What the hell are the second/third guys about?  What is the Simon Says symbol that jumps from tape to tape?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Asper on October 06, 2013, 12:01:43 pm
well yeah, I did get the answers. I didn't think of them like a sentence though...

I did both, but my sentence didn't make much sense because i used "leaving" as "coming"'s antonym...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 06, 2013, 12:26:47 pm
Yo, I found this game Manufactoria. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.kongregate.com/games/PleasingFungus/manufactoria

It's basically Turing Machines: The Game. Kind of maddening, but in a good sort of way, and I liked it so much I played through the whole thing. I thought that the algorithmically-minded crowd around here might appreciate it.
I got a question about this.  I'm working on my programs, cool and good.  I succeed from time to time.  When I fail, the program gives me a clear indication of precisely the type of string I'm judging incorrectly.  However...when I succeed, the program shows me a single bot moving around, but gives like 3 or more ticker-tapes that I'm 'reading'.  It seems to only follow the first.  What the hell are the second/third guys about?  What is the Simon Says symbol that jumps from tape to tape?

It might just be one tape that wraps around to the next line? There's only one robot tested at a time, but sometimes the input tape is too long to fit in one row. The multicolored symbol just indicates the current position of the writer head. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 06, 2013, 11:15:05 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/EHfVzEX.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 06, 2013, 11:18:49 pm
I am normally pretty strong with grammar rules, but writing the following threw me for a loop, and I still have no idea if it's correct:

"Quick to undermine others' confidence in their reads"

Obviously it's a fragment, but if it were part of a sentence ("He was quick to undermine others' confidence in their reads."), would it be correct/read properly?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 06, 2013, 11:24:20 pm
I am normally pretty strong with grammar rules, but writing the following threw me for a loop, and I still have no idea if it's correct:

"Quick to undermine others' confidence in their reads"

Obviously it's a fragment, but if it were part of a sentence ("He was quick to undermine others' confidence in their reads."), would it be correct/read properly?

I don't understand what it is trying to say.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 06, 2013, 11:31:57 pm
I am normally pretty strong with grammar rules, but writing the following threw me for a loop, and I still have no idea if it's correct:

"Quick to undermine others' confidence in their reads"

Obviously it's a fragment, but if it were part of a sentence ("He was quick to undermine others' confidence in their reads."), would it be correct/read properly?

I don't understand what it is trying to say.

It's from a mafia game, I always forget that the terminology is somewhat specific! Replace "reads" with "opinions."

I would also say you could replace "others'" with something but that's part of the crux of my confusion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 07, 2013, 01:33:54 am
I think it's correct, but it does sound a bit weird.  You can easily rewrite it though:

"He was quick to undermine the confidence that others had in their reads."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on October 07, 2013, 10:23:49 am
I baked my first lasagna last night. I feel pretty proud. I even did it from scratch. Well, mostly scratch. I had canned marinara sauce, and it's not like I made the cheese myself, but I did blend the cheeses together, and I seasoned the meat sauce using ground beef instead of Italian sausage.

Man, I knew that lasagna was a lot of work, but now I know firsthand. And it was expensive, but this batch will last us at least three meals. 

I'm just grateful for this little food processor. I would have been hours chopping up the garlic, onion, oregano, basil, and parsley. !
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Post by: SirPeebles on October 07, 2013, 10:27:06 am
Oh man, now I want to make lasagna so badly.  I really need to get myself a food processor.
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Post by: Eevee on October 07, 2013, 10:31:47 am
What's a food processor?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 10:42:19 am
It's like a blender with a flat bottom and blades allegedly better at mincing ingredients but in reality are just better at forming and rolling balls of the ingredients along the sides of the container.  Rarely is a food processor worth the cleanup time to actually use.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 07, 2013, 10:43:24 am
I baked my first lasagna last night. I feel pretty proud. I even did it from scratch. Well, mostly scratch. I had canned marinara sauce, and it's not like I made the cheese myself, but I did blend the cheeses together, and I seasoned the meat sauce using ground beef instead of Italian sausage.

Man, I knew that lasagna was a lot of work, but now I know firsthand. And it was expensive, but this batch will last us at least three meals. 

I'm just grateful for this little food processor. I would have been hours chopping up the garlic, onion, oregano, basil, and parsley. !

Did you make the pasta? I have always wanted to make my own pasta.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 10:50:04 am
I made pasta once, for ravioli. I have never since raised my eyebrows at nor complained about the prices of ravioli in restaurants.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 07, 2013, 10:55:02 am
It's like a blender with a flat bottom and blades allegedly better at mincing ingredients but in reality are just better at forming and rolling balls of the ingredients along the sides of the container.  Rarely is a food processor worth the cleanup time to actually use.

You need to buy a better food processor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on October 07, 2013, 10:59:05 am
If it needs excessive cleaning, it's probably not my thing. Cleaning the cutting board often feels overwhelming to me.

I've made pasta once. It was a loooot of work. Like, way too much work for me to ever want to do it again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 11:51:13 am
It's like a blender with a flat bottom and blades allegedly better at mincing ingredients but in reality are just better at forming and rolling balls of the ingredients along the sides of the container.  Rarely is a food processor worth the cleanup time to actually use.

You need to buy a better food processor.

I stopped trying to do that after 3 attempts. Knives are a better investment. Also, I have one of these (http://www.pamperedchef.com/images/product/resized/2585_product.jpg) to make quick work of mincing veggies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on October 07, 2013, 11:51:39 am
We use lasagne with the "e" in the UK: Wiktionary tells me that in Italian it's the plural.  Apparently "lasagna" comes from the Latin lasanum "cooking pot".  I'm not sure I know a single food etymology that doesn't come from "cooking pot".

In Wales road signs have both English and Welsh place names.  A few years back a sign was produced that read, in Welsh, "I am out of the office until the end of August, please send all work for translation to ...".  This is the modern version of "Beware of the Bull" farm, when the early surveyors wrote down whatever they found painted on a board at the end of the track leading up to the farmhouse.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on October 07, 2013, 12:10:08 pm
Did you make the pasta? I have always wanted to make my own pasta.

Alas, I did not. The pasta was store-bought. I had an uncomfortable moment where I set the pasta to boil and then realized that I forgot the marinara. So, the pasta just sat there after boiling. Fortunately, I did boil it with some oil in there, so the noodles did not stick together nearly as badly, but after sitting there for about an hour, it was definitely not ideal. I still made it work, and I had more pasta than I needed, so I was able to fill in any gaps when noodles got destroyed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on October 07, 2013, 12:57:39 pm
Did you make the pasta? I have always wanted to make my own pasta.

Alas, I did not. The pasta was store-bought. I had an uncomfortable moment where I set the pasta to boil and then realized that I forgot the marinara. So, the pasta just sat there after boiling. Fortunately, I did boil it with some oil in there, so the noodles did not stick together nearly as badly, but after sitting there for about an hour, it was definitely not ideal. I still made it work, and I had more pasta than I needed, so I was able to fill in any gaps when noodles got destroyed.

You put noodles in your lasagne?  :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on October 07, 2013, 01:56:42 pm
Did you make the pasta? I have always wanted to make my own pasta.

Alas, I did not. The pasta was store-bought. I had an uncomfortable moment where I set the pasta to boil and then realized that I forgot the marinara. So, the pasta just sat there after boiling. Fortunately, I did boil it with some oil in there, so the noodles did not stick together nearly as badly, but after sitting there for about an hour, it was definitely not ideal. I still made it work, and I had more pasta than I needed, so I was able to fill in any gaps when noodles got destroyed.

You put noodles in your lasagne?  :o

Just the lasagna noodles. Big flat things with crimped edges. I had to separate them after sitting there for so long to lay them out. A few got torn in the process, but I was able to fill the gap with portions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 07, 2013, 02:15:39 pm
Yo, I found this game Manufactoria. Have you guys seen this?

http://www.kongregate.com/games/PleasingFungus/manufactoria

It's basically Turing Machines: The Game. Kind of maddening, but in a good sort of way, and I liked it so much I played through the whole thing. I thought that the algorithmically-minded crowd around here might appreciate it.
I got a question about this.  I'm working on my programs, cool and good.  I succeed from time to time.  When I fail, the program gives me a clear indication of precisely the type of string I'm judging incorrectly.  However...when I succeed, the program shows me a single bot moving around, but gives like 3 or more ticker-tapes that I'm 'reading'.  It seems to only follow the first.  What the hell are the second/third guys about?  What is the Simon Says symbol that jumps from tape to tape?
Yup, longer tapes are split into multiple lines.  No idea how I didn't see that before.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 07, 2013, 02:20:13 pm
I've made my own pasta before.  It was fun to try, but it isn't worth doing regularly.  Lasagna noodles would be much easier though, since you just need large flat sheets.

I wouldn't use the food processor for the vegetable, just for making cheese.  I would soak cashews over night, then blend them with spices to make a veggie ricotta.  If I were feeling ambitious I would blend in some raw sauerkraut and allow it to ferment a few days.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on October 07, 2013, 02:25:53 pm
Is pasta called noodles in America or am I being really dumb here? Lasagne is made with pasta, right? Like... it's named after the pasta it's made from?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 02:33:51 pm
All noodles used in an Italian context are called pasta. Linguine, Penne, Rigatoni, Spaghetti etc. noodles are all considered pasta.
Asiatic or otherwise decidedly not-Italian noodles are simply called noodles and are not pasta. Hokkien, Pho, Soba, Lo Mein, etc. are noodles that would not be referred to as pasta.

That is, all pasta uses noodles but not all noodles are found in pasta.

That is your American lesson for today.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on October 07, 2013, 03:34:59 pm
I wouldn't use the food processor for the vegetable, just for making cheese.  I would soak cashews over night, then blend them with spices to make a veggie ricotta.  If I were feeling ambitious I would blend in some raw sauerkraut and allow it to ferment a few days.

I used our little food processor for the basil, oregano, parsley, onion, and garlic. I did have to use a rubber spatula to fully get those out of the bowl, but it wasn't a big deal. I used beaters for the cheese sauce, which also required a rubber spatula but only because I hate leaving stuff on the beaters. I used a mortar and pestle for the fennel seeds. That's more difficult than I thought it would be.

Luckily, I learned my valuable lesson before instead of after. The recipe called for four cloves of garlic. I bought four bulbs from the store. As I took one apart, I'm thinking, "Man, four is a lot. Hey, I wonder if these little chunks are technically cloves." A quick internet search later, and I quickly put the other three bulbs away. I even had to put away a few cloves. That would have been one surprising lesson if I didn't look that up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 07, 2013, 03:47:08 pm
Oh man. I love garlic, but the distinction between a clove and a bulb is important.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 04:02:30 pm
I made the bulb/clove mistake way back when. The directions called for 1 clove and I used 1 bulb. That was the most garlic intense spinach-cheese dip EVER. I did eat it, though, because I am a garlic fiend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on October 07, 2013, 04:10:16 pm
http://www.worldgarliceatingcompetition.co.uk/

World champion ate 49 cloves in 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 04:19:40 pm
Sometime I fancy myself capable of some of these feats. I can eat a lot of chocolate real fast. I have been known to put down a pound in 30 minutes.

World Record?

2lbs in 6 minutes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 07, 2013, 04:22:42 pm
My family gets garlic in a bunch of individual cloves anyway.  It's way easier that way.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 05:01:30 pm
I talked to a coworker the other day who had no idea you could peel bulbed garlic to get the same cloves you buy pre-peeled at the store.
My head swam for a while cogitating how removed we can be from our food.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 07, 2013, 07:17:46 pm
Oh, going back to my formula, it sometimes gives a negative answer.  Getting the absolute value of the numerator/the whole answer at the end works, but I'm not sure what caused it...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2013, 07:26:12 pm
Sue G.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 07, 2013, 09:56:06 pm
I talked to a coworker the other day who had no idea you could peel bulbed garlic to get the same cloves you buy pre-peeled at the store.
My head swam for a while cogitating how removed we can be from our food.

Where the hell does one get pre-peeled garlic?  I've seen pre-minced, but... wow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on October 07, 2013, 10:59:53 pm
I talked to a coworker the other day who had no idea you could peel bulbed garlic to get the same cloves you buy pre-peeled at the store.
My head swam for a while cogitating how removed we can be from our food.

Where the hell does one get pre-peeled garlic?  I've seen pre-minced, but... wow.
I've seen it in the supermarkets, but generally I've either been lazy enough to get the pre-minced or un-lazy enough to get the whole bulb, so I've never even thought of buying it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 07, 2013, 11:03:24 pm
Oh, going back to my formula, it sometimes gives a negative answer.  Getting the absolute value of the numerator/the whole answer at the end works, but I'm not sure what caused it...

Hmm... I'd need to look over the entire block of working, but most likely you performed a step without considering all possibilities - e.g. sqrt(x2) = x, instead of sqrt(x2) = ±x
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 08, 2013, 02:28:30 am
Oh, going back to my formula, it sometimes gives a negative answer.  Getting the absolute value of the numerator/the whole answer at the end works, but I'm not sure what caused it...

Now, let's simplify that a bit, taking the x part:
(ay + x - ab)/(a2 + 1) - x
ay + x - ab - a2x - x
(a2x + ay - ab)/(a2 + 1)

And the y part:
(a2y + ax + b)/(a2 + 1) - y
a2y + ax + b - a2y - y
(ax + b - y)/(a2 + 1)

In the top set of simplifications, you drop a (-), you should have:

(-a2x + ay - ab)/(a2 + 1)

But the main problem is you went through a ton of extra factoring steps... what I just wrote there is equal to:

= a(y - b - ax)/(a2 + 1)

Call that m (what you call the x part).  Then,

(ax + b - y)/(a2 + 1)

"The y part"; call this n.  Note that the bolded portions are additive opposites.

To simplify writing things, I'm going to call the distance (what we're looking for) d, and so

d2 = m2 + n2

OK, so let

k = ax + b - y
z = a2 + 1

Now, m = -ak/z, and n = k/z

m2 = a2k2/z2
n2 = k2/z2

d2 = m2 + n2 = a2k2/z2 + k2/z2

So

d2z2 = a2k2 + k2
d2z2 = (a2 + 1)k2
d2z2 = zk2
d2 = k2/z

d = abs(k/sqrt(z)) = abs((ax + b - y)/sqrt(a2 + 1))

----

Dropping that negative sign gives the same answer via squaring, I suspect, but it takes a lot more work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 08, 2013, 10:59:40 am
Curtains!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Galzria on October 08, 2013, 11:44:49 am
Curtains!

Whooosh!

Man, it's good to see your name pop up again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on October 08, 2013, 07:41:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_W96wCck7U
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on October 08, 2013, 11:56:55 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1391748_498630490236057_1731365668_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on October 11, 2013, 08:59:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/cxjOqQv.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 13, 2013, 05:29:41 pm

(http://0.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn.com/91/31/8b2ba566b401cd24232c5cb0247526e7.jpg)

(http://2.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn.com/72/70/c1a6a99d970c421d54d8a7e67842ba1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 13, 2013, 05:34:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/cxjOqQv.gif)

Seeing the square, I was wondering how to get a square wave, but realized you would have to use some non-euclidean geometry for that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 13, 2013, 05:37:16 pm

Seeing the square, I was wondering how to get a square wave, but realized you would have to use some non-euclidean geometry for that.

(http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2008/08/10/previews/Bill%20Gates-ASG-016915.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 13, 2013, 05:50:30 pm
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 13, 2013, 05:51:01 pm

Seeing the square, I was wondering how to get a square wave, but realized you would have to use some non-euclidean geometry for that.

You would want to replace the blue square with a pair of (infinitely long) parallel lines.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 13, 2013, 05:52:31 pm

Seeing the square, I was wondering how to get a square wave, but realized you would have to use some non-euclidean geometry for that.

You would want to replace the blue square with a pair of (infinitely long) parallel lines.

I'm talking about making a normal polygon still.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 13, 2013, 06:03:53 pm
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

This game is awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 13, 2013, 08:19:15 pm
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/
oh man, me too...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on October 14, 2013, 02:50:55 am
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/
I played it for three days, got bored when there were no new upgrades available. I don't think you can really call this a game, as there isn't a goal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on October 14, 2013, 03:30:30 am
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/
I played it for three days, got bored when there were no new upgrades available. I don't think you can really call this a game, as there isn't a goal.

Whenever someone talks about Cookie Clicker, I always get reminded of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD69PAIqiYo)

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 14, 2013, 08:02:34 am
My computer went into sleep mode over night :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 14, 2013, 11:14:47 am
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/
I played it for three days, got bored when there were no new upgrades available. I don't think you can really call this a game, as there isn't a goal.

Whenever someone talks about Cookie Clicker, I always get reminded of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD69PAIqiYo)


Amusingly that was done by someone a long, long time ago.  As The Kill Everyone Project.

http://qntm.org/tkep
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 01:12:57 pm
My computer went into sleep mode over night :(

My brother turned off sleep mode just for it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 14, 2013, 01:19:01 pm
My computer went into sleep mode over night :(

My brother turned off sleep mode just for it.

I did that this morning.  I can't wait to see how many cookies I have when I get home.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 01:34:20 pm
I don't understand the appeal of this "game" at all.






Yet here I am with 50 billion cookies and 20 antimatter compressors.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 02:36:56 pm
I don't understand the appeal of this "game" at all.






Yet here I am with 50 billion cookies and 20 antimatter compressors.

I'm in the trillions, with around 40 antimatter compressors.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 14, 2013, 02:44:03 pm

Hah, I think I can beat that........My Score (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 14, 2013, 03:02:56 pm
"Moist cookies."
-Grandma
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 03:17:35 pm
"Moist cookies."
-Grandma

Just wait until later...

"We rise."
-Grandma
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 03:27:24 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 03:28:32 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 03:34:54 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?

I JUST researched One Mind...trying to decide whether to take the leap.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 03:36:58 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?

I JUST researched One Mind...trying to decide whether to take the leap.

Just keep watching the background as you research more...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 03:40:05 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?

I JUST researched One Mind...trying to decide whether to take the leap.

Just keep watching the background as you research more...

Is it even worth it though??
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 03:43:19 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?

I JUST researched One Mind...trying to decide whether to take the leap.

Just keep watching the background as you research more...

Is it even worth it though??

Those upgrades are worth a LOT.  With your bajillion grandma multipliers, each +1 base CpS gives you a lot.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 03:45:40 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?
hit AND ended it.

I'd go for it Dsell.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 14, 2013, 03:46:47 pm
I'm at the same decision, Dsell.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 03:47:01 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?
hit AND ended it.

I'd go for it Dsell.

Did you use the Elder Pledge or the Elder Covenant?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 03:49:21 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?
hit AND ended it.

I'd go for it Dsell.

Did you use the Elder Pledge or the Elder Covenant?
pledge. Yes, I know it ends, but renewing it over and over again is cheaper than the -5% cps from the Covenant.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 03:50:39 pm
I did it! I just got my first red cookie.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 03:51:29 pm
I did it! I just got my first red cookie.
did you click on it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 03:52:44 pm
I did it! I just got my first red cookie.
did you click on it?

Yep! It was Lucky! (And so was I, I'm sure.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 03:55:54 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?
hit AND ended it.

I'd go for it Dsell.

Did you use the Elder Pledge or the Elder Covenant?
pledge. Yes, I know it ends, but renewing it over and over again is cheaper than the -5% cps from the Covenant.

It costs 4 trillion after a while...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 04:03:45 pm
I did it! I just got my first red cookie.
did you click on it?

Yep! It was Lucky! (And so was I, I'm sure.)

Got another one! Elder Frenzy. THAT was helpful.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 04:11:27 pm
I'm at almost 500 trillion cookies and 63 antimatter condensers... and I haven't turned off sleep mode.

So you've hit the grandmapocolypse, right?
hit AND ended it.

I'd go for it Dsell.

Did you use the Elder Pledge or the Elder Covenant?
pledge. Yes, I know it ends, but renewing it over and over again is cheaper than the -5% cps from the Covenant.

It costs 4 trillion after a while...
I know, it does now.

pledge lasts 1 hour. 1 hour is 3600 seconds.

My cps is 5.185 billion. the 5% of that I lose if I get the covenant is 295 million per second. 295 million times the 3600 seconds in an hour is 933 billion. so that is way less than the 4.3 trillion for the pledge. 3.4 trillion remains that I lose every time I renew the pledge. However, a lot of the time I don't care if I'm getting red cookies, because I'm doing something else and won't be clicking on them anyway. If I got the covenant, I would still be losing 5% cps in that period.

In addition, a lower cps reduces the amount I get from golden cookies. Each time I get a lucky! cookie I get 20 minutes worth of my cps, and each time I get a lucky! cookie during a frenzy I get 140 minutes worth of my cps. losing 5% of that hurts too.

So, I'm not certain that the pledge is more effecient, but I think it is. I also know that EVENTUALLY is will be more efficient, and I don't want to waste the 66+ trillion it takes to purchase and later get rid of the covenant.


I did it! I just got my first red cookie.
did you click on it?

Yep! It was Lucky! (And so was I, I'm sure.)

Got another one! Elder Frenzy. THAT was helpful.
Woah, I've never gotten that. what is it? might be something you can only get from red cookies, as I've only clicked on a red cookie a couple times.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 04:15:41 pm
I did it! I just got my first red cookie.
did you click on it?

Yep! It was Lucky! (And so was I, I'm sure.)

Got another one! Elder Frenzy. THAT was helpful.
Woah, I've never gotten that. what is it? might be something you can only get from red cookies, as I've only clicked on a red cookie a couple times.

It multiplied my clicking by 666 for 13 seconds and it MAY have multiplied by cps by the same. I am not totally sure, but my cookies really jumped when I got it.

Edit: fixed wonky quoting
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 04:20:21 pm
With a golden cookie I've occasionally gotten one that multiplies cookies by clicking by 777 for 13 seconds, but does nothing to cps. I think it's called a clicking frenzy for that though...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 04:21:04 pm
I did it! I just got my first red cookie.
did you click on it?

Yep! It was Lucky! (And so was I, I'm sure.)

Got another one! Elder Frenzy. THAT was helpful.
Woah, I've never gotten that. what is it? might be something you can only get from red cookies, as I've only clicked on a red cookie a couple times.

It multiplied my clicking by 666 for 13 seconds and it MAY have multiplied by cps by the same. I am not totally sure, but my cookies really jumped when I got it.

There's a lot of spoilers here recently...

Golden cookies can multiply clicking by 777 for 7 seconds (and by 14 if you get the upgrade).  That one is REALLY good.  It's really rare, though.

PPE: Ninja'd
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 14, 2013, 04:28:27 pm
I think that, on average, red cookies are better than golden cookies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 04:29:52 pm
I think that, on average, red cookies are better than golden cookies.
whaaaat? no way. if that was the case, why would you want to end it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on October 14, 2013, 04:32:00 pm
Woah, I've never gotten that. what is it? might be something you can only get from red cookies, as I've only clicked on a red cookie a couple times.
It's CpS x666 for 6 seconds I think.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 04:32:12 pm
I think that, on average, red cookies are better than golden cookies.

Golden Cookies always give x7 for 77 seconds, or things like that, while red cookies give x6 for 66 seconds or something like that.  Red cookies also can have bad effects (which I always seem to get...).  The only good thing about red cookies is that they have a bit better chance of being good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 04:32:28 pm
I think that, on average, red cookies are better than golden cookies.
whaaaat? no way. if that was the case, why would you want to end it?

The creepiness?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 14, 2013, 04:34:07 pm
http://cookieclicker.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Cookie

Red Cookies have a much higher chance of starting a cookie chain, and can give you 666xcps

It has negative effects a little over half the time, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Qvist on October 14, 2013, 04:34:27 pm
I realised earlier today that I miss having Qvist in the community. Qvist, if you're reading this, know that we want you back. And this isn't just a thinly veiled attempt to get extra respect

 :'(  ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 04:43:01 pm
http://cookieclicker.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Cookie

Red Cookies have a much higher chance of starting a cookie chain, and can give you 666xcps

It has negative effects a little over half the time, though.
hah, I was just about to post that link too. here's the one to golden cookies: http://cookieclicker.wikia.com/wiki/Golden_Cookie

losing the chance of a frenzy really, really hurts later in the game. if you have 84,000 times your cps in the bank, and never go below that number, you get a ton of cookies from frenzy-lucky combos, which happen quite often actually.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 14, 2013, 04:44:57 pm
So what are the killer strats for this game? Which buildings and upgrades are essential, and which are skippable? When should you sell your infrastructure? For example, let's say you were trying to rush to 1,000,000 cookies for the speed achievement, what's the best plan?

Also looking forward to getting home from work to see my accumulating cookie hoard ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 04:48:23 pm
I doubt any are ignorable... because they all get more pricy, eventually the one you are ignoring will be comparatively cheap and then worth it. Some are more helpful than others though...

Selling is probably never a good idea. You are going to end up re-purchasing them eventually, so what's the point?

also, my pledge just ran out, and I got a red cookie... because of this discussion I figured what the heck, I'll click on it... and I lost 3 trillion cookies...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 14, 2013, 04:52:57 pm
I doubt any are ignorable... because they all get more pricy, eventually the one you are ignoring will be comparatively cheap and then worth it. Some are more helpful than others though...

Selling is probably never a good idea. You are going to end up re-purchasing them eventually, so what's the point?

also, my pledge just ran out, and I got a red cookie... because of this discussion I figured what the heck, I'll click on it... and I lost 3 trillion cookies...

Which must be only 10 minutes worth of cookies, then?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 14, 2013, 04:55:10 pm
Achievement unlocked: How? ;D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 14, 2013, 04:55:45 pm
well, yeah. And then the next one was that elder frenzy, and it lasted 12 seconds because of the get lucky upgrade. okay, I can't complain at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 14, 2013, 06:38:19 pm
Why all the spoiler stuff?

(http://s23.postimg.org/4sbdvyr9n/cookie.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 14, 2013, 07:42:27 pm
Is that... 1.5 quintillion?  That is one hell of a lot of cookies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 14, 2013, 07:51:36 pm
How did you get that much?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's cheating...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 14, 2013, 08:19:26 pm
For scale, 1.5 quintillion cookies would have about twice the mass of Phobos, the larger of Mars' two moons.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 14, 2013, 10:02:17 pm
I blame all of you for getting me into this.

However, suddenly I'm getting no golden cookies at all, as opposed to one every few seconds.  Bug?

Edit:   Oh it looks like the "golden cookie every 10 seconds" was the actual bug.  Well, I'll take the kick-start...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 15, 2013, 05:51:32 am
....why do I continue to play?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 15, 2013, 07:11:41 am
Selling is probably never a good idea. You are going to end up re-purchasing them eventually, so what's the point?

Incorrect, all of the speed achievements require shrewd selling strategies. The general gist is to buy infrastructure to get a certain cps+ then sell a % of that infrastructure to immediately buy a seriously upgraded infrastructure that produces a higher cps allowing the sold infrastructure to be replaced more quickly than you would have been able to simply wait for the lower infrastructure to produce the cookies needed for the higher infrastructure alone.

e.g. (all numbers just random guesses)
begin by buying 15 cursors and 15 grandmas for 1,000cps
sell 10 cursors and 5 grandmas and buy a portal for 3,000cps
buy back the 10 cursors and 5 grandmas with a much more quickly appreciating cookie bank

I think you sell at 50% of buy value.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 15, 2013, 07:16:58 am
Hmmm, that does seem to work (and actuallly be a good idea even if not going for achievements). However, I think this is a bit of an edge case - it only helps early in the game, and probably only once or twice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 15, 2013, 07:19:36 am
And also, selling 10 cursors and 5 grandmas is not going to give you enough cookies for a portal... unless you've already spent a really long time getting cookies with your grandmas and cursors. probably optimal to buy farms/mines/factories at some point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 15, 2013, 08:34:01 am
And also, selling 10 cursors and 5 grandmas is not going to give you enough cookies for a portal... unless you've already spent a really long time getting cookies with your grandmas and cursors. probably optimal to buy farms/mines/factories at some point.

Yeah, the numbers are made up entirely as I disclaimed. I was simply making the point that you can sell to gain faster producing infrastructure in the early game and net far more cookies than waiting until you can afford to buy without selling.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 15, 2013, 08:53:32 am
Hmmm, that does seem to work (and actuallly be a good idea even if not going for achievements). However, I think this is a bit of an edge case - it only helps early in the game, and probably only once or twice.

This seems like less of an edge case after last night's nerf to heavenly chips.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on October 15, 2013, 10:40:30 am
I recently gave up the cookie clicker addiction after getting every achievement, 500 heavenly chips and having 10's of quadrillions in the bank.

But if you guys want other pointless yet strangely addictive games, check out progress quest.

http://progressquest.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 15, 2013, 06:40:04 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/cxjOqQv.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/890dbb3579d662c3f85d63b092a01498/tumblr_mulcv7njoG1skjf3ro1_400.gif)

More here (http://moldylox.tumblr.com/post/63892023722/math-is-the-cooliest).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on October 15, 2013, 07:05:07 pm
Those damn cookies are strangely compelling.  Thankfully I only lost part of this afternoon; the usual trick worked to get me off the hook:

Code: [Select]
for i in {1..100000}; do xdotool mousemove 200 400 click 1; done
If you're addicted and use Windows, I'm afraid it's beyond my powers to save you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 15, 2013, 09:19:06 pm
More here (http://moldylox.tumblr.com/post/63892023722/math-is-the-cooliest).

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f80ae83ab9f51471cdfdbcb0e29056fc/tumblr_mulcv7njoG1skjf3ro3_400.gif)

"And what you fail to realize is my ship is dragging mines!"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on October 15, 2013, 09:23:00 pm
More here (http://moldylox.tumblr.com/post/63892023722/math-is-the-cooliest).

-img-

"And what you fail to realize is my ship is dragging mines!"
"And Mints! And a whole lot of other cards!"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on October 15, 2013, 10:29:45 pm
Those damn cookies are strangely compelling.  Thankfully I only lost part of this afternoon; the usual trick worked to get me off the hook:

Code: [Select]
for i in {1..100000}; do xdotool mousemove 200 400 click 1; done
If you're addicted and use Windows, I'm afraid it's beyond my powers to save you.

And it's also an app on iOS.  So you can slam your finger down over and over on the screen.  Definitely not as good as the browser version, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: michaeljb on October 16, 2013, 12:38:03 am
THE AVS AND BRONCOS ARE BOTH 6-0 YOU GUYS THIS IS AMAZING
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 16, 2013, 08:16:30 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e829a18961367c45baf1c2dcbcea47a0/tumblr_mu9ubo1AHY1rhuwfao1_500.gif)

The dots are only moving in straight lines.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 16, 2013, 09:51:10 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRcNyuA9LdNe3th8M-BGH3POjaPwkKdvO98ekLy3LOl120sJUwMGQ)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3Z5K7jyJwdSVh5JyrBj61dQXgqqqZvY0FruLurdc72PV3vebC)

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8_nQ5JWNkvyh0DZ-jzv73SG1q1k_Kq0y8AhahWHoTEXNDsZUt3Q)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 16, 2013, 09:55:35 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYYCzZdl_One4a7BS-s7RuULsnu5KB0vrBAfc6bJ6BUpGRjbK-Xg)   (https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQoCRd0pDMoQUF5JA4eca1QenaL9UXSUKEl2yx3l32QJcLk_E7qIQ)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 16, 2013, 09:58:34 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXS-4_6gClTa3EgRBW6oMN8t4LMtxUQ9hLrIecYQjdsTcRhTNb3A)   (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSU2lACT3Fl5JhSaNF5uJ4f4v1co7hu7c0144c5cHCBKZaH5ij9zA)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on October 17, 2013, 03:19:38 am
(http://i.imgur.com/7VRuwr4.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on October 17, 2013, 03:17:04 pm
Quote
You may think your attack is full of grimness and storminess, but it is counter-mined by your obvious state of delusional dreaminess
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on October 17, 2013, 03:31:02 pm
Tonight my wife gets her first tattoo. A severe arachnophobe, she is facing her fears by having a steampunk spider put on her body. Granted, it's on her back, so I guess "facing" is not correct, but still…

And she did very well for standing inside a tattoo parlor called "Grimm's" during Halloween season.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 19, 2013, 11:26:04 am
I finally got every achievement in Cookie Clicker.  The only Shadow Achievements I have so far are Hardcore and True Neverclick.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 19, 2013, 06:07:27 pm
For some reason, I decided to play Cookie Cliker. It's now perpetually running in the background, or in the foreground as I do something else like playing Pokemon. I got Speed Baking I on my first play, is that normal? Seems pretty easy to get.

Perhaps it's because I'm a mathematician, but I made a spreadsheet to calculate stuff for me. At first I just input data and got some useful results on what was cost efficient, but then I added and added and now it pretty much tells me what to buy next (although it does use a few approximations, and doesn't realise that e.g. saving up for 2 hours to buy something isn't as good as upgrading something with a slightly lower efficiency but cheaper cost).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 19, 2013, 06:16:01 pm
For some reason, I decided to play Cookie Cliker. It's now perpetually running in the background, or in the foreground as I do something else like playing Pokemon. I got Speed Baking I on my first play, is that normal? Seems pretty easy to get.

Perhaps it's because I'm a mathematician, but I made a spreadsheet to calculate stuff for me. At first I just input data and got some useful results on what was cost efficient, but then I added and added and now it pretty much tells me what to buy next (although it does use a few approximations, and doesn't realise that e.g. saving up for 2 hours to buy something isn't as good as upgrading something with a slightly lower efficiency but cheaper cost).

I was really slow my first play through.  It was probably at least ten minutes before I realized you could buy cursors, grandmas etc.  I thought it was just a silly rating system. Then on my first reset I was going for True Neverclick, so I didn't even get my first cursor for a good ten or fifteen minutes.  I intend to at least get Speed Baking II next time I reset.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 20, 2013, 07:21:40 am
Something fun I realised is that, due to upgrades to cursors, cookies and kittens, while each Farm might only increase my CPS by 80, the overall CPS increase is over 9000*

*Actually over 30,000, but you know, 9K sounds better.

Also, I've just had three clots in a row, followed by a ruin and then another clot. My resolve to not Pledge until after a Cookie Chain/Elder Frenzy/Clicking Frenzy is being tested, but I think that's still probably the best way of doing things.

Edit: And then another clot. According to the wiki and crunching some numbers, after getting a bad red cookie there's a 56.5% chance of getting something good after a bad cookie. Eh, I guess that's not too unreasonable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 20, 2013, 11:00:07 am
Something fun I realised is that, due to upgrades to cursors, cookies and kittens, while each Farm might only increase my CPS by 80, the overall CPS increase is over 9000*

*Actually over 30,000, but you know, 9K sounds better.

Also, I've just had three clots in a row, followed by a ruin and then another clot. My resolve to not Pledge until after a Cookie Chain/Elder Frenzy/Clicking Frenzy is being tested, but I think that's still probably the best way of doing things.

Edit: And then another clot. According to the wiki and crunching some numbers, after getting a bad red cookie there's a 56.5% chance of getting something good after a bad cookie. Eh, I guess that's not too unreasonable.

That's why I stick with golden cookies...

When you have all the golden cookie upgrades, you can get other things during a frenzy, and that can help a lot.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 20, 2013, 11:19:32 am
And 4 trillion cookies for a one hour pledge is nothing when you are raking in a quadrillion cookies per combo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on October 20, 2013, 11:43:26 am
Right now I'm at 186 trillion per combo (22billion cps)... pledge, covenant, or nothing? Right now I'm using covenant, just because it's simpler :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 20, 2013, 01:13:50 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e829a18961367c45baf1c2dcbcea47a0/tumblr_mu9ubo1AHY1rhuwfao1_500.gif)

The dots are only moving in straight lines.

I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 20, 2013, 01:28:01 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e829a18961367c45baf1c2dcbcea47a0/tumblr_mu9ubo1AHY1rhuwfao1_500.gif)

The dots are only moving in straight lines.

I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.

What would it look like if the balls weren't sinusoid-ing back and forth, but instead moved with constant speed?

What if the radius of the inner "circle" were not exactly equal to half that of the outer? How would that affect the paths the balls would take? Some sort of weird cycloid or something?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on October 20, 2013, 03:03:07 pm
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/lilly%20and%20mine.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on October 21, 2013, 03:48:57 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e829a18961367c45baf1c2dcbcea47a0/tumblr_mu9ubo1AHY1rhuwfao1_500.gif)

The dots are only moving in straight lines.

I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.

What would it look like if the balls weren't sinusoid-ing back and forth, but instead moved with constant speed?

What if the radius of the inner "circle" were not exactly equal to half that of the outer? How would that affect the paths the balls would take? Some sort of weird cycloid or something?

For different radii you do indeed get a hypocycloid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocycloid).

If the points move back and forth and constant speed then the boundaries of the shape will look like r=k.theta for some constant k, so you'll get a region bounded by segments of two spirals—in particular, it will have a point at either end.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on October 21, 2013, 08:28:01 am
I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.

I must be really lazy, because instead of writing a proof, I just isolated the lines and verified visually that the balls just move back and forth on a straight line.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 21, 2013, 08:49:56 am
I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.

I must be really lazy, because instead of writing a proof, I just isolated the lines and verified visually that the balls just move back and forth on a straight line.

What you think you said: "You can just do this by eye"

What you actually said: "I am not a mathematician"

:P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 21, 2013, 08:55:03 am
I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.

I must be really lazy, because instead of writing a proof, I just isolated the lines and verified visually that the balls just move back and forth on a straight line.

Let me rephrase this then.  I verified that they really are rotating around a center which is itself rotating, where each rotation has the same radius and speed, but opposite direction.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 21, 2013, 09:31:09 am
I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.

I must be really lazy, because instead of writing a proof, I just isolated the lines and verified visually that the balls just move back and forth on a straight line.

Let me rephrase this then.  I verified that they really are rotating around a center which is itself rotating, where each rotation has the same radius and speed, but opposite direction.

I'm not entirely certain which amuses me more:  the fact that I can also verify this by eye (if you spin the entire figure counterclockwise, the whole thing works like two gears and the inner circle will stay in place), or the fact that I have no idea how proving that also proves that the points are moving along straight lines.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 21, 2013, 10:20:16 am
I finally got around to writing out a mathematical proof that those really are straight lines.

I must be really lazy, because instead of writing a proof, I just isolated the lines and verified visually that the balls just move back and forth on a straight line.

Let me rephrase this then.  I verified that they really are rotating around a center which is itself rotating, where each rotation has the same radius and speed, but opposite direction.

I'm not entirely certain which amuses me more:  the fact that I can also verify this by eye (if you spin the entire figure counterclockwise, the whole thing works like two gears and the inner circle will stay in place), or the fact that I have no idea how proving that also proves that the points are moving along straight lines.

I don't mean that it proves that they move in straight lines.  This animated image is sort of like an optical illusion, but not really.  There is not an apparent contradiction involved, but rather a coincidence.  At least for me, my mind sees the circular motion immediately, and it is only with the visual aid of the beads on rods that I see the linear motion.  The coincidence that both are occurring simultaneously is unexpected and jarring.  The resolution that I was looking for, then, is either a proof that the circular motion results in the linear motion, or that the linear motion results in the circular motion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on October 21, 2013, 12:45:03 pm
The '60s called...

(http://designobserver.com/images/spirograph.gif) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirograph)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on October 21, 2013, 01:16:54 pm
I don't mean that it proves that they move in straight lines.  This animated image is sort of like an optical illusion, but not really.  There is not an apparent contradiction involved, but rather a coincidence.  At least for me, my mind sees the circular motion immediately, and it is only with the visual aid of the beads on rods that I see the linear motion.  The coincidence that both are occurring simultaneously is unexpected and jarring.  The resolution that I was looking for, then, is either a proof that the circular motion results in the linear motion, or that the linear motion results in the circular motion.

When I look at it I see a circle rotating and the intersections of the circle with the (fixed) lines highlighted.  It's as if the circle is made of light and rotating behind a disc with radial slits in—the dots are the bright points where the light shines through.  In that model there isn't any straight line motion to be explained.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 21, 2013, 01:22:15 pm
I don't mean that it proves that they move in straight lines.  This animated image is sort of like an optical illusion, but not really.  There is not an apparent contradiction involved, but rather a coincidence.  At least for me, my mind sees the circular motion immediately, and it is only with the visual aid of the beads on rods that I see the linear motion.  The coincidence that both are occurring simultaneously is unexpected and jarring.  The resolution that I was looking for, then, is either a proof that the circular motion results in the linear motion, or that the linear motion results in the circular motion.

When I look at it I see a circle rotating and the intersections of the circle with the (fixed) lines highlighted.  It's as if the circle is made of light and rotating behind a disc with radial slits in—the dots are the bright points where the light shines through.  In that model there isn't any straight line motion to be explained.

Let's imagine that there is a big blue dot right in the middle of the "circle" of white dots.  Then in your model it is clear that the blue dot moves in a circle and that the white dots move on straight lines.  What isn't immediately clear is the emergent behavior that the white dots rotate around the blue dot.  That circular motion is not obvious until you see the animation (or carefully analyze some equations).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 21, 2013, 01:45:12 pm
The '60s called...

(http://designobserver.com/images/spirograph.gif) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirograph)

Why did they never combine this with an Etch a Sketch I wonder..
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on October 21, 2013, 01:47:50 pm
Let's imagine that there is a big blue dot right in the middle of the "circle" of white dots.  Then in your model it is clear that the blue dot moves in a circle and that the white dots move on straight lines.  What isn't immediately clear is the emergent behavior that the white dots rotate around the blue dot.  That circular motion is not obvious until you see the animation (or carefully analyze some equations).

Yes.  I found the difference in perspective interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on October 21, 2013, 11:24:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9oj-iQNXKQ&feature=youtu.be&ref=nf
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 22, 2013, 12:42:26 am
http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-improved-obamacare-program-released-on-35-flop,34294/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 22, 2013, 09:55:52 pm
(http://engagetheirminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/opticalillusion.gif)

Here's another image of linearly moving dots.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 22, 2013, 10:35:41 pm
http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2013/10/17/so-this-exists-klingon-rendition-of-never-gonna-give-you-up-video/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on October 23, 2013, 08:12:25 pm
Here's another image of linearly moving dots.

Somewhat humorously, when I first saw that image I saw that the dots moved in lines, but it took ~15 seconds to see the pattern.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on October 23, 2013, 08:14:48 pm
Here's another image of linearly moving dots.

Somewhat humorously, when I first saw that image I saw that the dots moved in lines, but it took ~15 seconds to see the pattern.

Are you at all colour blind?  I imagine that the colour really helps with the illusion, so being even partially colour blind might weaken the effect.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on October 23, 2013, 10:44:09 pm
Here's another image of linearly moving dots.

Somewhat humorously, when I first saw that image I saw that the dots moved in lines, but it took ~15 seconds to see the pattern.

Are you at all colour blind?  I imagine that the colour really helps with the illusion, so being even partially colour blind might weaken the effect.
Maybe a tiny bit? My wikipediaing brought up the ishihara color blindness test, which I had no problems with. However, on the red-green test images, I could see the numbers that should be seen if I have red-green color blindness, they were just less contrasted than the normal vision ones.
Additionally, I seem to perceive the boundary between pink and red differently than most people.
Edit: Oh, and if you remember that hue ordering test that someone here posted a while back (you can find it with google) I only got 4 wrong on that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 24, 2013, 01:16:09 am
Here's another image of linearly moving dots.

Somewhat humorously, when I first saw that image I saw that the dots moved in lines, but it took ~15 seconds to see the pattern.

Me too, but not 15 seconds.  I think it was more, "STRAIGHT LINES!  MUST FIND THEM!"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on October 24, 2013, 01:35:09 am
It took me a while before I saw the pattern, too. I'm not sure how many seconds it was, but maybe around 5-10.

I'm not colorblind.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 24, 2013, 08:22:38 am
A sine wave is the projection of a point rotating in a circle onto a straight line.  Film at eleven.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 25, 2013, 02:34:02 pm
Old McDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a fox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE)...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 25, 2013, 02:53:08 pm
There has to be a market out there for a Candy Box or Cookie Clicker style game, but with beer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 25, 2013, 03:54:12 pm
I am the best at that game.  It's called Friday Night.  I play it every friday night, and usually other nights as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 25, 2013, 03:56:22 pm
How about meth?

http://clickingbad.nullism.com
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 25, 2013, 04:05:11 pm
also, as for cookie clicker, 2.203 quintillion baked all time...since Sept 25th when I was unfortunately introduced to this; yay for insignificant achievements!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 25, 2013, 04:06:32 pm
also, as for cookie clicker, 2.203 quadrillion baked all time...since Sept 25th when I was unfortunately introduced to this; yay for insignificant achievements!

I have...  5 quadrillion in the bank...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on October 25, 2013, 04:26:46 pm
excuse me, I meant quintillion
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 25, 2013, 04:28:30 pm
excuse me, I meant quintillion

:O
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 25, 2013, 05:04:25 pm
That reminds me, I was going to try and finish off getting the 100 of everything achievement, at which point I'd have all the normal achievements except the final CpS one (which just seems stupidly hard to achieve, I'm like 5% of the way there and thanks to the exponentially increasing costs... ugh).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 25, 2013, 06:03:12 pm
That reminds me, I was going to try and finish off getting the 100 of everything achievement, at which point I'd have all the normal achievements except the final CpS one (which just seems stupidly hard to achieve, I'm like 5% of the way there and thanks to the exponentially increasing costs... ugh).

I've got 100 of everything except the Antimatter Condensers now...

Tables, for the CpS, did you try an Elder Frenzy? x666 production helps a lot
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 25, 2013, 06:04:08 pm
That reminds me, I was going to try and finish off getting the 100 of everything achievement, at which point I'd have all the normal achievements except the final CpS one (which just seems stupidly hard to achieve, I'm like 5% of the way there and thanks to the exponentially increasing costs... ugh).

I've got 100 of everything except the Antimatter Condensers now...

Tables, for the CpS, did you try an Elder Frenzy? x666 production helps a lot

I seem to remember it doesn't count anymore.  Good thing I already got it ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on October 25, 2013, 07:36:52 pm
There has to be a market out there for a Candy Box or Cookie Clicker style game, but with beer.

That game already exists.  It's call alcoholism.



(Note: I stole that joke verbatim.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on October 26, 2013, 01:51:38 am
Photos taken during and after a blackout, showing the impact of light pollution on the night sky in a small Canadian town:

(http://physics.fau.edu/observatory/Images/Goodwood_Ontario_house.jpg)(http://physics.fau.edu/observatory/Images/Goodwood_Ontario_house_2003_Aug14_blackout.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on October 26, 2013, 06:52:10 am
Photos taken during and after a blackout, showing the impact of light pollution on the night sky in a small Canadian town:
Well, "small" is relative. It doesn't look that small to me, judging from the amount of light pollution.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on October 26, 2013, 09:53:22 pm
Basketball with bad British commentary. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxYikubciDE#t=143)

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on October 27, 2013, 10:10:07 am
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

I hate you all for introducing me to this. Sitting at 300,000,000 cps, 39 Antimatter condensers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 27, 2013, 01:12:37 pm
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

I hate you all for introducing me to this. Sitting at 300,000,000 cps, 39 Antimatter condensers.
Same...
Except 25,000,000,000 and 70 antimatter condensers...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on October 27, 2013, 01:58:02 pm
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

I hate you all for introducing me to this. Sitting at 300,000,000 cps, 39 Antimatter condensers.
Same...
Except 25,000,000,000 and 70 antimatter condensers...

When did you start? I just started this Friday evening...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on October 27, 2013, 02:54:41 pm
So now that I've discovered that you can hack the Javascript; I had a few minutes of fun looking through the code to find stuff to change; and now I'm done with the game for good. Just seems pointless if you can just give yourself all achievements and more with a simple hack.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 27, 2013, 03:06:48 pm
So now that I've discovered that you can hack the Javascript; I had a few minutes of fun looking through the code to find stuff to change; and now I'm done with the game for good. Just seems pointless if you can just give yourself all achievements and more with a simple hack.

Cheated cookies taste awful, it ruins the game.  Don't cheat, and the game never runs out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 27, 2013, 04:22:16 pm
I've been wasting a bunch of time on this: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

I hate you all for introducing me to this. Sitting at 300,000,000 cps, 39 Antimatter condensers.
Same...
Except 25,000,000,000 and 70 antimatter condensers...

When did you start? I just started this Friday evening...
Earlier than that :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 27, 2013, 05:06:37 pm
Basketball with bad British commentary. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxYikubciDE#t=143)

Haha, i wish it was like that, would make basketball infinitely more interesting!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 27, 2013, 07:57:04 pm
Two things.  First, I reached one quintillion cookies today.

Second, this is really interesting:
http://bit-player.org/2013/the-keys-to-the-keydom

Some group gathered millions of public RSA keys from around the internet (each of which is the product of two large primes), and after discarding duplicates they ran the Euclidean algorithm on them to find pairs which shared a factor.  Out of the 5.8 million unique public keys gathered, they found that about 64,000 -- around 0.05% -- shared factors.  That makes them useless for security purposes.  It is unfathomable that this could be the result of chance, and so excluding conspiracy theories, it appears to indicate serious flaws in our pseudorandom number generators.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 27, 2013, 08:02:49 pm
Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aFUEevbLPI&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 27, 2013, 08:26:23 pm
Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aFUEevbLPI&feature=youtu.be
I feel like they just put the cookie on a pressure plate under those pieces of paper... but still, pretty cool.

And that's ridiculous and kinda scary about the keys...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 27, 2013, 08:40:15 pm
Nah, I think they just used something like this, attached to a cookie.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joylabs/makey-makey-an-invention-kit-for-everyone
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 27, 2013, 08:45:01 pm
Ah.  That makes sense too :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 27, 2013, 10:55:30 pm
Two things.  First, I reached one quintillion cookies today.

Second, this is really interesting:
http://bit-player.org/2013/the-keys-to-the-keydom

Some group gathered millions of public RSA keys from around the internet (each of which is the product of two large primes), and after discarding duplicates they ran the Euclidean algorithm on them to find pairs which shared a factor.  Out of the 5.8 million unique public keys gathered, they found that about 64,000 -- around 0.05% -- shared factors.  That makes them useless for security purposes.  It is unfathomable that this could be the result of chance, and so excluding conspiracy theories, it appears to indicate serious flaws in our pseudorandom number generators.

That is truly strange.  I mean, is it reasonable to assume that these common factors were each generated by different PRNGs?  Or is there the possibility that multiples were generated by the same PRNG, without proper re-seeding?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on October 28, 2013, 05:37:06 pm
Finding primes is a difficult business. The first step is running a huge batch of numbers through a sieve designed to detect "probable primes", and there are one or two fairly common ones in use. After that, you have to pick a subset of your probable primes and test each one for true primality, which is a slow and painful process. Given that they're all searching in the same general space of numbers (for N-bit security, presumably the vicinity of 2^(N/2)), to have a few collisions is probably as much the result of the birthday paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_paradox) as it is poor design of their prime number finding algorithms.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 28, 2013, 05:40:32 pm
Finding primes is a difficult business. The first step is running a huge batch of numbers through a sieve designed to detect "probable primes", and there are one or two fairly common ones in use. After that, you have to pick a subset of your probable primes and test each one for true primality, which is a slow and painful process. Given that they're all searching in the same general space of numbers (for N-bit security, presumably the vicinity of 2^(N/2)), to have a few collisions is probably as much the result of the birthday paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_paradox) as it is poor design of their prime number finding algorithms.

No, they explicitly discuss the birthday paradox and dismiss it as an explanation. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on October 28, 2013, 05:49:46 pm
Yep, I'm now actually bothering to read the article and see it right there. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 28, 2013, 07:30:33 pm
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ayn_random.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on October 28, 2013, 08:12:06 pm
As I understand it, they often skip the final primality testing stage.  If your probabilistic primality test has a failure rate of e^-50 then what you're left with are industrial-grade primes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial-grade_prime), which are good enough for most purposes.  Problems caused by these numbers not actually being prime will be swamped by problems caused by cosmic rays hitting your RAM.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on October 28, 2013, 08:20:00 pm
Isn't the fact that the NSA has some kind of backdoor to commonly used encryption techniques more than a conspiracy theory?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/20/4751364/rsa-tells-developers-to-stop-using-encryption-with-suspected-nsa-backdoor
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 28, 2013, 09:38:38 pm
Isn't the fact that the NSA has some kind of backdoor to commonly used encryption techniques more than a conspiracy theory?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/20/4751364/rsa-tells-developers-to-stop-using-encryption-with-suspected-nsa-backdoor

I find it amusing that it's NIST basically saying "Don't use this prime-generating algorithm, our sister government agency hacked it."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 29, 2013, 12:12:20 am
Oh god, in the most recent Cookie Clicker update the Grandmapocalypse is at least 8x more terrifying
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 29, 2013, 04:40:18 am
Oh god, in the most recent Cookie Clicker update the Grandmapocalypse is at least 8x more terrifying
true, but you know If you look at how they work, when you pop the wrinklers you get more cookies than you lost (it says with interest) so instead of making it worse, the grandmapocalypse is better! WOOO!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 29, 2013, 05:56:31 am
A new update?  But I was finally going to be free.  The morning after I hit one quintillion my mouse battery died, and I wasn't going to replace it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 29, 2013, 10:12:14 am
Do any of you know how the interest on wrinklers work?

One possibility is that it is just a flat percentage return.  Like, for every 100 cookies a wrinkler "eats", you earn 105 cookies for popping it.  In that case, wrinklers effectively just give an additional layer of +% to your cps.

If, on the other hand, it works like interest at a bank, then the value of a popping a wrinkler would increase by, say, 5% per hour (not accounting for additional cookie consumption during that time, which only provides a linear correction).  That would then mean exponential growth, and over the long term the optimal strategy would be to just accumulate 10 wrinklers and permit them to feed for weeks and weeks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 29, 2013, 10:17:32 am
No idea how the interest works... the wiki doesn't even mention interest, just the update log in game
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 29, 2013, 10:41:29 am
wiki and reddit are both saying that you 110% of what they ate.  No exponential growth after all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 29, 2013, 11:59:44 am
I just looked in the source code, it's 110%.  It says: "cookie dough does weird things inside wrinkler digestive tracts"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 29, 2013, 01:27:09 pm
My goodness, that new Grandma sprite is creepy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on October 29, 2013, 01:49:47 pm
Non-cookie related I'm afraid

Just had a PM on another board gamin website that said
"Hey, didn't I read somewhere that you were the guy who have the idea away for Dominion??!"

I told him he was getting me mixed up with Eevee, and that I got that a lot...


Still, can't think where he got that from.....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 29, 2013, 02:01:18 pm
http://www.reddit.com/r/CookieClicker/comments/1ph1ol/confirmed_let_the_wrinklers_wrinkle_minimal/

According to this thread on reddit, there appears to be a bug where the wrinklers accumulate cookies extra quickly when you have lots of them.   If you have N wrinklers, then your cps drops by N*5%, but the code apparently records each wrinkler as eating N*5% cps.  Thus you earn (1.1)*N^2*5%  cps when you ultimately pop them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on October 29, 2013, 02:02:04 pm
wiki and reddit are both saying that you 110% of what they ate.  No exponential growth after all.
Somehow I missed that (well, I'm not a redditor).  Anywho, I just hit 100 anti-matter condensers... what do I do next?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 29, 2013, 02:11:12 pm
wiki and reddit are both saying that you 110% of what they ate.  No exponential growth after all.
Somehow I missed that (well, I'm not a redditor).  Anywho, I just hit 100 anti-matter condensers... what do I do next?

Buy Reverse Cyclotrons!

After that, you can save up for Sextillion Fingers or soft reset for Heavenly Chips.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on October 29, 2013, 03:15:31 pm
I'm pretty close to 100 anti-matter condensers. Been buying things which are the most efficient, but always keeping my bank balance just above 84,000 times my CpS to maximise possible cookies from a Frenzy-Lucky. That said it might actually be better just to leave things in angered mode and let 10 wrinklers eat away for the massive bonuses they give when eventually popped (also wrinkler popping = more achievements = more milk which is a pretty massive CpS bonus).

Right now I have:
203 cursors
198 Grannies
140 Farms
128 Factories
123 Mines
118 Shipments
115 Alchemy Labs
119 Portals
106 Time Machines
93 Antimatter Condensers
101 Heavenly Chips

And every possible upgrade I can get, excluding a few Halloween cookies.

As an aside, I think the numbers on the wiki are incorrect. I've popped 15 Wrinkers so far and have three Halloween cookies, so if it's really 5% each... yeah. Also I had 3 wrinklers about 30 seconds after my Covenant ran out, making me think their 0.1% per frame is also wrong. I'm either very lucky, or those numbers are off.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 29, 2013, 03:25:22 pm
It is definitely worth popping wrinklers for the achievements/milk.  After that, I'm unsure.  With ten wrinklers sucking on your cookies, you get an effective x6 multiplier.  The cps nerf dampens the effects of both Ruin and Lucky, but the effective x6 stacks with Elder Frenzy, giving you x3996 for 12 seconds (!).  That is about 13 hours 20 minutes worth of production over a 12 second period,  But that is comparable to a Frenzy + Click Frenzy combo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 29, 2013, 05:30:33 pm
It is definitely worth popping wrinklers for the achievements/milk.  After that, I'm unsure.  With ten wrinklers sucking on your cookies, you get an effective x6 multiplier.  The cps nerf dampens the effects of both Ruin and Lucky, but the effective x6 stacks with Elder Frenzy, giving you x3996 for 12 seconds (!).  That is about 13 hours 20 minutes worth of production over a 12 second period,  But that is comparable to a Frenzy + Click Frenzy combo.

I will probably get the achievements and be done with them.  The grandmapocalypse is to freaky.

Also, I was thinking this cookie clicker discussion could probably be it's own thread...  We've taken over the Random Stuff thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 29, 2013, 06:14:55 pm
Why do people put things in games but don't release that part?  (I know there's a name for it, but I can't remember)  I was just looking in the cookie clicker code and there's an item commented out that increases your CpS but sacrifices golden cookies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on October 29, 2013, 06:31:34 pm
Got to love my language:

Quote
English: A dog.
Swedish: What?
English: The dog.
English: Two dogs.
Swedish:
Swedish:
Swedish: En hund, hunden.
Swedish: Två hundar, hundarna.
German:
English: No, go away.
Swedish: No one invited you.
German: Der Hund.
English: I said go away.
German: Ein Hund, zwei Hunde.
Swedish: Stop it.
German: Den Hund, einen Hund, dem Hund, einem Hund, des Hundes, eines Hundes, den Hunden, der Hunden.
Finnish: Sup.
English: NO.
Swedish: NO.
German: NO.
Finnish:
English:
German:
Swedish:
Finnish: Koira, koiran, koiraa, koiran again, koirassa, koirasta, koiraan, koiralla, koiralta, koiralle, koirana, koiraksi, koiratta, koirineen, koirin.
German:
Swedish:
Finnish:
English:
Finnish: Aaaand... koirasi, koirani, koiransa, koiramme, koiranne, koiraani, koiraasi, koiraansa, koiraamme, koiraanne, koirassani, koirassasi, koirassansa, koirassamme, koirassanne, koirastani, koirastasi, koirastansa, koirastamme, koirastanne, koirallani, koirallasi, koirallansa, koirallamme, koirallanne, koiranani, koiranasi, koiranansa, koiranamme, koirananne, koirakseni, koiraksesi, koiraksensa, koiraksemme, koiraksenne, koirattani, koirattasi, koirattansa, koirattamme, koirattanne, koirineni, koirinesi, koirinensa, koirinemme, koirinenne.
English:
Swedish:
German:
Finnish: Wait! then theres koirakaan, koirankaan, koiraakaan, koirassakaan, koirastakaan, koiraankaan, koirallakaan, koiraltakaan, koirallekaan, koiranakaan, koiraksikaan, koirattakaan, koirineenkaan, koirinkaan, koirako, koiranko, koiraako, koirassako, koirastako, koiraanko, koirallako, koiraltako, koiralleko, koiranako, koiraksiko, koirattako, koirineenko, koirinko, koirasikaan, koiranikaan, koiransakaan, koirammekaan, koirannekaan, koiraanikaan, koiraasikaan, koiraansakaan, koiraammekaan, koiraannekaan, koirassanikaan, koirassasikaan, koirassansakaan, koirassammekaan, koirassannekaan, koirastanikaan, koirastasikaan, koirastansakaan, koirastammekaan, koirastannekaan, koirallanikaan, koirallasikaan, koirallansakaan, koirallammekaan, koirallannekaan, koirananikaan, koiranasikaan, koiranansakaan, koiranammekaan, koiranannekaan, koiraksenikaan, koiraksesikaan, koiraksensakaan, koiraksemmekaan, koiraksennekaan, koirattanikaan, koirattasikaan, koirattansakaan, koirattammekaan, koirattannekaan, koirinenikaan, koirinesikaan, koirinensakaan, koirinemmekaan, koirinennekaan, koirasiko, koiraniko, koiransako, koirammeko, koiranneko, koiraaniko, koiraasiko, koiraansako, koiraammeko, koiraanneko, koirassaniko, koirassasiko, koirassansako, koirassammeko, koirassanneko, koirastaniko, koirastasiko, koirastansako, koirastammeko, koirastanneko, koirallaniko, koirallasiko, koirallansako, koirallammeko, koirallanneko, koirananiko, koiranasiko, koiranansako, koiranammeko, koirananneko, koirakseniko, koiraksesiko, koiraksensako, koiraksemmeko, koiraksenneko, koirattaniko, koirattasiko, koirattansako, koirattammeko, koirattanneko, koirineniko, koirinesiko, koirinensako, koirinemmeko, koirinenneko, koirasikaanko, koiranikaanko, koiransakaanko, koirammekaanko, koirannekaanko, koiraanikaanko, koiraasikaanko, koiraansakaanko, koiraammekaanko, koiraannekaanko, koirassanikaanko, koirassasikaanko, koirassansakaanko, koirassammekaanko, koirassannekaanko, koirastanikaanko, koirastasikaanko, koirastansakaanko, koirastammekaanko, koirastannekaanko, koirallanikaanko, koirallasikaanko, koirallansakaanko, koirallammekaanko, koirallannekaanko, koirananikaanko, koiranasikaanko, koiranansakaanko, koiranammekaanko, koiranannekaanko, koiraksenikaanko, koiraksesikaanko, koiraksensakaanko, koiraksemmekaanko, koiraksennekaanko, koirattanikaanko, koirattasikaanko, koirattansakaanko, koirattammekaanko, koirattannekaanko, koirinenikaanko, koirinesikaanko, koirinensakaanko, koirinemmekaanko, koirinennekaanko, koirasikokaan, koiranikokaan, koiransakokaan, koirammekokaan, koirannekokaan, koiraanikokaan, koiraasikokaan, koiraansakokaan, koiraammekokaan, koiraannekokaan, koirassanikokaan, koirassasikokaan, koirassansakokaan, koirassammekokaan, koirassannekokaan, koirastanikokaan, koirastasikokaan, koirastansakokaan, koirastammekokaan, koirastannekokaan, koirallanikokaan, koirallasikokaan, koirallansakokaan, koirallammekokaan, koirallannekokaan, koirananikokaan, koiranasikokaan, koiranansakokaan, koiranammekokaan, koiranannekokaan, koiraksenikokaan, koiraksesikokaan, koiraksensakokaan, koiraksemmekokaan, koiraksennekokaan, koirattanikokaan, koirattasikokaan, koirattansakokaan, koirattammekokaan, koirattannekokaan, koirinenikokaan, koirinesikokaan, koirinensakokaan, koirinemmekokaan, koirinennekokaan.
Swedish:
German:
English: Okay, now you're just making things up!
Finnish:
Finnish: And now the plural forms...
Whoever wrote this, forgot the -kin, -han, -kinhan, -kinko, -kohan and -pa forms, though (and it's possible that I'm not remembering them all, either). So the last list of words should be like 3 times as long.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Qvist on October 29, 2013, 07:47:19 pm
Finnish: And now the plural forms...

+100  ;D

I just know what a pussi (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussi) is. Note it's with i, not with y.

Explanation: When I was in hospital two months ago, there was a bag for women sanitary napkins at the toilet. The bag was translated in all kind of languages. When I read "pussi" I was kind of confused. I didn't know if it stood for "women", "sanitary" or "napkin".  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on October 29, 2013, 11:19:46 pm
So, should I or should I not get the elder covenant?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 29, 2013, 11:22:30 pm
So, should I or should I not get the elder covenant?

I'm pretty sure the Elder Pledge is better, as golden cookies are better and the covenant gets rid of 5% of your CpS.  Get all the wrinkler achievements and Halloween cookies first, though.  If you're lazy and don't fell like buying the pledge every hour, get the covenant.  (Also, if you don't want to even have a chance of seeing those grandmas get creepy, you might want the covenant then too)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on October 30, 2013, 08:32:02 am
I will not check out your cookie clicker.

I waste enough time playing Marvel Avengers Alliance, managing Thor, Spider-Man, and Wolverine. That's my guilty pleasure.

I suspect if I go click on cookies, I won't emerge from my man cave until spring.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 30, 2013, 09:51:29 am
Got to love my language:

Quote
Finnish: Wait! then theres koirakaan, koirankaan, koiraakaan, koirassakaan, koirastakaan.....

It's rather silly to compare an agglutinative language with a non-agglutinative language when it comes to word forms, though.  It's like the claim that Inuit languages have dozens or hundreds of words for snow, when really agglutination means that "fluffy snow" and "crunchy snow" are just agglutinated words.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 30, 2013, 10:29:05 am
It is definitely worth popping wrinklers for the achievements/milk.  After that, I'm unsure.  With ten wrinklers sucking on your cookies, you get an effective x6 multiplier.  The cps nerf dampens the effects of both Ruin and Lucky, but the effective x6 stacks with Elder Frenzy, giving you x3996 for 12 seconds (!).  That is about 13 hours 20 minutes worth of production over a 12 second period,  But that is comparable to a Frenzy + Click Frenzy combo.

Yeah, I just popped 10 wrinnlers while under the effects of Elder Frenzy.  It was... kinda ridiculous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 30, 2013, 10:31:58 am
No, don't pop during the Elder Frenzy!  Pop them after, when they are ripe and full of cookies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on October 30, 2013, 02:31:33 pm
If you're looking for a useful pseudo-game, try HabitRPG (https://habitrpg.com/).  You tell it what you need to do, and it rewards and punishes your character based on your performance at your real-life tasks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on October 30, 2013, 03:45:32 pm
If you're looking for a useful pseudo-game, try HabitRPG (https://habitrpg.com/).  You tell it what you need to do, and it rewards and punishes your character based on your performance at your real-life tasks.

Related:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/20
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on October 30, 2013, 03:49:48 pm
If you're looking for a useful pseudo-game, try HabitRPG (https://habitrpg.com/).  You tell it what you need to do, and it rewards and punishes your character based on your performance at your real-life tasks.

Related:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/20

Also:

http://xkcd.com/189/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on October 30, 2013, 05:59:47 pm
If you're looking for a useful pseudo-game, try HabitRPG (https://habitrpg.com/).  You tell it what you need to do, and it rewards and punishes your character based on your performance at your real-life tasks.

Related:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/20

Also:

http://xkcd.com/189/
I referenced that xkcd in a presentation at work a couple of weeks ago, so I don't even need to check which one it is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on October 30, 2013, 06:28:28 pm
If you're looking for a useful pseudo-game, try HabitRPG (https://habitrpg.com/).  You tell it what you need to do, and it rewards and punishes your character based on your performance at your real-life tasks.

Related:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/20

Also:

http://xkcd.com/189/

This makes me think of Final Fantasy II.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on October 31, 2013, 09:39:05 am
If you're looking for a useful pseudo-game, try HabitRPG (https://habitrpg.com/).  You tell it what you need to do, and it rewards and punishes your character based on your performance at your real-life tasks.

Related:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/20

Also:

http://xkcd.com/189/

This makes me think of Final Fantasy II.

If I just select Ultima 1000 more times, I'll gain another level in it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on October 31, 2013, 08:06:39 pm
My number of cookies is going off the screen...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: CanidSubterranean on October 31, 2013, 09:09:54 pm
I wish I could find a job where I get paid to manipulate Excel tables. I love playing around with Excel formulas and tweaking the data to do amazing things.

Someday, I'd like to dissect one of those Hero Lab Excel spreadsheets that are used to make D&D characters and just marvel at how intricate the spreadsheet is.

There are plenty of analyst jobs as you describe.. Almost any job with the job title that has the word "analyst" in it requires heavy excel usage..
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on November 01, 2013, 03:51:37 am
I wish I could find a job where I get paid to manipulate Excel tables. I love playing around with Excel formulas and tweaking the data to do amazing things.

Someday, I'd like to dissect one of those Hero Lab Excel spreadsheets that are used to make D&D characters and just marvel at how intricate the spreadsheet is.

There are plenty of analyst jobs as you describe.. Almost any job with the job title that has the word "analyst" in it requires heavy excel usage..

This. My job title has "analyst" in it and I get to mess around with spreadsheets on a monthly basis... and a weekly basis... and also whenever I have spare time and think any particular set of data is worth messing around with. So like, all the time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 01, 2013, 06:01:54 am
I have spent the last two days producing stats and cost analysis for my team.

Great fun! Especially when the numbers come out exactly what I want them to say!

Although I have now done it in such a way that I only have to copy paste one report and excel functions do all the rest for me. Baaah


Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 01, 2013, 01:15:14 pm
(Not me)

http://imgur.com/a/wVM0H
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on November 01, 2013, 01:52:08 pm
Same! Except I just wiped my save... So that I couldn't even be tempted
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on November 01, 2013, 01:52:46 pm
And I didn't get black cat's paw... Or any of the hidden achievements...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on November 01, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
And I didn't get black cat's paw... Or any of the hidden achievements...

Black cat's paw is RIDICULOUS, also I now have all of the non-hidden achievements and 2 of the hidden ones. (I got just plain lucky after just a couple days!)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 01, 2013, 02:02:11 pm
I have all normal achievements and no hidden ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on November 01, 2013, 02:14:58 pm
I have all normal achievements and no hidden ones.

I did a reset and got true neverclick, then did another reset aiming for all three speed achievements, got burnt out after just a few minutes and quit the game for like a day...they're a pain and the hardest one is apparently all luck...plus I have a touchpad, not a mouse. Ick. But anyway, now I'm sitting on 150+ heavenly chips in this reset and quadrillions and quadrillions in cash. I'm satisfied for now, I'll probably just wait around for the next update.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 01, 2013, 02:25:11 pm
I think that after I reach my current goal, I'm gonna go for speedrun level 3 (1M in 15 minutes) without using a Golden Cookie. Might require some clever planning, and a lot of clicking.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 01, 2013, 02:39:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23H8IdaS3tk&list=SPA220BA20D4D3DE46
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 01, 2013, 05:09:04 pm
I'm never going to be able to read "lol"  the same ever again, now that I see it as a guy raising his hands in the air...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 01, 2013, 05:27:10 pm
I think that after I reach my current goal, I'm gonna go for speedrun level 3 (1M in 15 minutes) without using a Golden Cookie. Might require some clever planning, and a lot of clicking.

I don't think that this is possible.  Even with Golden Cookies, you need to get quite lucky.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on November 01, 2013, 05:49:48 pm
I bet it is probably possibly with ~7 clicks per second and optimal purchase strategy. (which is quite difficult to figure out).

how does true neverclick work? None of the golden cookies give cookies if you can't click and have no cookies and no cps.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on November 01, 2013, 05:50:03 pm
I'm never going to be able to read "lol"  the same ever again, now that I see it as a guy raising his hands in the air...

Then there's the segment of population who read it as "lots of love".

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Heard about your grandma.  LOL

When one of the editors caught up in the UK phone hacking scandal was in court a few years ago it came out that the Prime Minister had suffered from this particular misunderstanding.  (Not, thankfully, in that context.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 01, 2013, 05:59:23 pm
I bet it is probably possibly with ~7 clicks per second and optimal purchase strategy. (which is quite difficult to figure out).

how does true neverclick work? None of the golden cookies give cookies if you can't click and have no cookies and no cps.

A lucky cookie gives 1200 time CpS or 10% of your current cookies, whichever is lower, plus 13.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on November 01, 2013, 06:01:39 pm
Weekly cookie-update: 4.3 quintillion and counting
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on November 01, 2013, 06:18:50 pm
A lucky cookie gives 1200 time CpS or 10% of your current cookies, whichever is lower, plus 13.
oh. That means that you need two of them though... man that's slow.

When I reset (for the first time) I think I'll do that, then reset again pretty quickly, and go for speed baking.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 02, 2013, 05:38:57 pm
Well I now have everything aside from Black Cat's Paw and Just Plain Lucky.  I'm going outside.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 03, 2013, 05:21:40 pm
I reset recently, and probably in 15-20 red cookies, I've gotten 5 Elder Frenzies...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 03, 2013, 05:41:26 pm
I reset recently, and probably in 15-20 red cookies, I've gotten 5 Elder Frenzies...

And 7-8 Cookie Chains...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 03, 2013, 07:54:05 pm
I reset recently, and probably in 15-20 red cookies, I've gotten 5 Elder Frenzies...

And 7-8 Cookie Chains...

Make that 7 Elder Frenzies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 03, 2013, 09:34:46 pm
I've been reading this article (http://crypto.stanford.edu/craig/easy-fhe.pdf) on fully homomorphic encryption, and it is pretty neat stuff.

Basically, the idea is that you want to do some intensive computations, and since you don't own a super computer, you decide to rent computing time from a cloud service.  The catch is that your data is sensitive, and you can't risk leaking information.  How can you encrypt data so that someone else can process the data without "seeing" it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 03, 2013, 10:32:17 pm
Is there a way to get more elder frenzies? Or are they just random?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 03, 2013, 10:44:06 pm
Is there a way to get more elder frenzies? Or are they just random?

They're just random.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on November 04, 2013, 11:50:48 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcM14Al83Ls
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on November 04, 2013, 06:52:01 pm
I like chocolate chip cookies. Real ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on November 04, 2013, 11:29:30 pm
I'm never going to be able to read "lol"  the same ever again, now that I see it as a guy raising his hands in the air...

Then there's the segment of population who read it as "lots of love".

And then there's "Lucifer our Lord."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 04, 2013, 11:54:06 pm
I'm never going to be able to read "lol"  the same ever again, now that I see it as a guy raising his hands in the air...

Then there's the segment of population who read it as "lots of love".

And then there's "Lucifer our Lord."

...Devil worshipers?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on November 05, 2013, 03:59:32 am
I like chocolate chip cookies. Real ones.
Me too. Actually, Chocolate chip cookies is the working title of one of my songs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 05, 2013, 11:59:26 am
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on November 05, 2013, 12:42:44 pm
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 05, 2013, 12:45:43 pm
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Nooooooo! Are there any more? 25 is rational, and so is thirty, and I think 45 works.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 05, 2013, 12:51:47 pm
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Nooooooo! Are there any more? 25 is rational, and so is thirty, and I think 45 works.
Never mind. However, if it is rational it is definitely not prime.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 05, 2013, 12:53:02 pm
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Nooooooo! Are there any more? 25 is rational, and so is thirty, and I think 45 works.

Huh?  If n = 2k+1 this is just n^(k-1)*sqrt(n).  This is irrational whenever n is not a perfect square... 15 is the first odd composite non-perfect square. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 05, 2013, 12:59:31 pm
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Nooooooo! Are there any more? 25 is rational, and so is thirty, and I think 45 works.

Huh?  If n = 2k+1 this is just n^(k-1)*sqrt(n). This is irrational whenever n is not a perfect square... 15 is the first odd composite non-perfect square.
Yeah, just figured that out. If it's even it'll be rational and if it's odd it has to be a perfect square. Sigh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ipofanes on November 06, 2013, 03:49:15 am
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Nooooooo! Are there any more? 25 is rational, and so is thirty, and I think 45 works.

Huh?  If n = 2k+1 this is just n^(k-1)*sqrt(n). This is irrational whenever n is not a perfect square... 15 is the first odd composite non-perfect square.
Yeah, just figured that out. If it's even it'll be rational and if it's odd it has to be a perfect square. Sigh.

Empirical induction is fun. Our maths professor once introduced the Coaster Theorem to us, which states that when you mark a round coaster (well, a circle) with equidistant points on the perimeter, and you draw lines between each pair of points and cut the coaster along these lines, you obtain 2n-1 pieces. Works for n=0 to n=5 but is short by two on n=6.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 06, 2013, 09:30:24 am
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Nooooooo! Are there any more? 25 is rational, and so is thirty, and I think 45 works.

Huh?  If n = 2k+1 this is just n^(k-1)*sqrt(n). This is irrational whenever n is not a perfect square... 15 is the first odd composite non-perfect square.
Yeah, just figured that out. If it's even it'll be rational and if it's odd it has to be a perfect square. Sigh.

Empirical induction is fun. Our maths professor once introduced the Coaster Theorem to us, which states that when you mark a round coaster (well, a circle) with equidistant points on the perimeter, and you draw lines between each pair of points and cut the coaster along these lines, you obtain 2n-1 pieces. Works for n=0 to n=5 but is short by two on n=6.


That doesn't work for n = 5 either... I count 11.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 06, 2013, 09:56:39 am
My friend just rad only came up with a formula to find prime numbers:

For whole numbers 3 and up:

sqrt(numbernumber-2). If it is irrational, it's prime. If it's rational, it's not prime.

Counterexample: 15
Nooooooo! Are there any more? 25 is rational, and so is thirty, and I think 45 works.

Huh?  If n = 2k+1 this is just n^(k-1)*sqrt(n). This is irrational whenever n is not a perfect square... 15 is the first odd composite non-perfect square.
Yeah, just figured that out. If it's even it'll be rational and if it's odd it has to be a perfect square. Sigh.

Empirical induction is fun. Our maths professor once introduced the Coaster Theorem to us, which states that when you mark a round coaster (well, a circle) with equidistant points on the perimeter, and you draw lines between each pair of points and cut the coaster along these lines, you obtain 2n-1 pieces. Works for n=0 to n=5 but is short by two on n=6.


That doesn't work for n = 5 either... I count 11.

I don't think it works for n=0, either~

(But n=5 does give 16, which I think is right)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ipofanes on November 06, 2013, 12:06:22 pm
n=0 doesn't work, right.

But for n=5 I think you forgot the pie slices outside the pentagram.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on November 06, 2013, 12:28:57 pm
Number theory is full of conjectures where the smallest counterexample is quite a large number.

Here's a math overflow thread:
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/15444/the-phenomena-of-eventual-counterexamples
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 06, 2013, 12:46:36 pm
Number theory is full of conjectures where the smallest counterexample is quite a large number.

Here's a math overflow thread:
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/15444/the-phenomena-of-eventual-counterexamples

I think that's misleading.  An integer with 15 digits only seems like "quite a large number" because our everyday experience is with numbers less than 100.

Meanwhile, my cookie count has more than 15 digits.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on November 06, 2013, 12:48:18 pm
Number theory is full of conjectures where the smallest counterexample is quite a large number.

Here's a math overflow thread:
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/15444/the-phenomena-of-eventual-counterexamples
This is exactly something I was looking for; I'm teaching infinite series right now, and students will say "oh look here's a pattern that's true twice.  This sequence is decreasing."  They don't understand why they should rigorously PROVE decreasing, like with a negative derivative or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on November 06, 2013, 01:45:46 pm
Number theory is full of conjectures where the smallest counterexample is quite a large number.

Here's a math overflow thread:
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/15444/the-phenomena-of-eventual-counterexamples

I think that's misleading.  An integer with 15 digits only seems like "quite a large number" because our everyday experience is with numbers less than 100.

Meanwhile, my cookie count has more than 15 digits.

I was thinking about it more in the empirical induction sense mentioned earlier. It's large because your first guess for a lot of these is to prove by induction, so let's test some cases, starting with the base case. n=1? n=2?..... n= 15 digit number? is a lot of cases to check before coming across a counterexample....

The following conjecture doesn't have a large counterexample in the same sense because you don't start checking n=1? n=2?... -- it's easy to "see" the counterexample.

Conjecture: All natural numbers are less than 1,000,000,000,000,000.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 06, 2013, 03:17:44 pm
Number theory is full of conjectures where the smallest counterexample is quite a large number.

Here's a math overflow thread:
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/15444/the-phenomena-of-eventual-counterexamples

I think that's misleading.  An integer with 15 digits only seems like "quite a large number" because our everyday experience is with numbers less than 100.

Meanwhile, my cookie count has more than 15 digits.

I was thinking about it more in the empirical induction sense mentioned earlier. It's large because your first guess for a lot of these is to prove by induction, so let's test some cases, starting with the base case. n=1? n=2?..... n= 15 digit number? is a lot of cases to check before coming across a counterexample....

The following conjecture doesn't have a large counterexample in the same sense because you don't start checking n=1? n=2?... -- it's easy to "see" the counterexample.

Conjecture: All natural numbers are less than 1,000,000,000,000,000.

That's a good point, and perhaps a good way of indicating why we shouldn't be so surprised about the eventual counterexample phenomena. 

Also would be fun in an undergrad class.  Tell them you're trying to prove some formula on natural numbers that involves some computation so you made a computer program that takes in a natural number and outputs True if the formula holds and False if it does not.  Ask them what they can deduce by plugging in a bunch of numbers and examining the output.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 06, 2013, 04:28:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 06, 2013, 04:33:18 pm
(http://i1.wp.com/flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/monty_hall.png?fit=625%2C9999)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on November 06, 2013, 04:38:23 pm
I would have learned quick sort so much faster if my comp-sci teacher had shown this video...  This is fantastic
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 06, 2013, 05:16:22 pm
(http://i1.wp.com/flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/monty_hall.png?fit=625%2C9999)

21 would have been a much more awesomer movie if this was the main character
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 06, 2013, 05:55:57 pm
(http://i1.wp.com/flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/monty_hall.png?fit=625%2C9999)

The funny thing is, right before I read this, I was trying to explain the whole thing to my dad, and his first question was, "What if I want the goat?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 07, 2013, 01:46:18 pm
Question: Should I do a cover of Chocolate Rain, as I can make my voice sound really deep?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 07, 2013, 02:43:35 pm
http://youtu.be/2cF8oA0zn7A
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on November 07, 2013, 03:56:16 pm
Question: Should I do a cover of Chocolate Rain, as I can make my voice sound really deep?
Yeah!

I'm currently working on a vocal cover of Renai Circulation by Kana Hanazawa. I like challenges.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 07, 2013, 04:31:51 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8

I posted this on Facebook last night, and it's already gotten 2 shares and 7 likes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on November 07, 2013, 04:46:44 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8

I watched this twice. I think I understand quick-sort. :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on November 07, 2013, 04:48:22 pm
We watched that in a lecture once.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 07, 2013, 04:56:41 pm
I watched it once, and a few things struck me

1) Hungarians are crazy
2) It took 6:55 minutes!! Thats not quick!
3) They all had numbers on thier chests, pretty sure they could have just looked at each other and just stood in the right place
4) If I dont own a hat does this mean I cannot do quicksort?
5) See No.4 but if I cant dance

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 07, 2013, 05:07:38 pm
I watched it once, and a few things struck me

1) Hungarians are crazy

I find this offensive. As a mathematician, that is. All we can say for certainty is that ten people doing Hungarian dances who are crazy.

Quote
2) It took 6:55 minutes!! Thats not quick!

Wow, well what are you, some sort of sorting guru? How would you know if that's fast? I seriously doubt you could do it faster.

Quote
3) They all had numbers on thier chests, pretty sure they could have just looked at each other and just stood in the right place

...Oh.

Quote
4) If I dont own a hat does this mean I cannot do quicksort?

I believe that was quite strongly implied in the video. Honestly,these questions.

Quote
5) See No.4 but if I cant dance

See 4.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 07, 2013, 05:10:37 pm
2) It took 6:55 minutes!! Thats not quick!

Quicksort is only fast on average; it can be rather slow in worst-case situations, like when your data is performing a traditional hungarian dance.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on November 07, 2013, 05:13:32 pm
This was just a warm-up; the next phase involves sorting the entire population of Budapest by cooking some sort of goulash.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on November 07, 2013, 05:16:41 pm
2) It took 6:55 minutes!! Thats not quick!

Quicksort is only fast on average; it can be rather slow in worst-case situations edge cases, like when your data is performing a traditional hungarian dance.

Ahem.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on November 07, 2013, 06:59:12 pm
Contrary to popular belief, InsertionSort is the fastest sorting algorithm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROalU379l3U
Only slightly slower is MergeSort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaqR3G_NVoo
ShellSort is still ok:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmPA7zE8mx0
Then there's a small gap before BubbleSort:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZQPjUT5B4
QuickSort is actually the second worst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8
But the red lantern is taken by SelectionSort:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns4TPTC8whw
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on November 07, 2013, 07:40:27 pm
Btw I guess the 9 in BubbleSort isn't very good at dancing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 07, 2013, 08:50:39 pm
I personally use bucket sort for sorting students' papers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on November 08, 2013, 10:08:39 am
Man, I have to look these videos up when I get home. Though, my job does entail some rudimentary programming, so I may be able to justify watching these videos.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 08, 2013, 10:57:13 am
Maths question thats just come up between me and a colleague.

5! is 5x4x3x2x1 and is called factorial
What is the sign/name for 5+4+3+2+1?
I cannot seem to find it on my limited internet search and remembered you were all maths whizzes

Can we have the answer without any Cossacks please.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 08, 2013, 11:03:33 am
or is it only multiplcation that has a short handy format, and in which case...why?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 08, 2013, 11:08:37 am
Maths question thats just come up between me and a colleague.

5! is 5x4x3x2x1 and is called factorial
What is the sign/name for 5+4+3+2+1?
I cannot seem to find it on my limited internet search and remembered you were all maths whizzes

Can we have the answer without any Cossacks please.

1+2+3+...+n is the nth triangle number. It doesn't have an explicit symbol, to the best of my knowledge, although I've seen it written as T(n) or Tn at different times.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 08, 2013, 11:11:09 am
So T(5) would = 15?

Ok, googled it and yes it does.
Weird that its phrased this way, but it will do
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 08, 2013, 11:13:05 am
or is it only multiplcation that has a short handy format, and in which case...why?

The reason for this probably comes down to a few factors. Firstly there's no easy formula for factorials. The gamma function does give you factorials, but it's a hideous formula to use. In comparison, 1+2+...+n = n(n+1)/2, which is both easy enough to remember and very quick to calculate. Secondly, factorials come up a lot in some branches of mathematics, such as combinatorics, analysis and algebra. While triangle numbers do also come up a lot, it's rarely an issue to just use the formulaic version.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 08, 2013, 11:15:12 am
I personally use bucket sort for sorting students' papers.

I think that dressing your students up in costumes and having them dance a sorting algorithm is unethical.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 08, 2013, 11:22:03 am
or is it only multiplcation that has a short handy format, and in which case...why?

The reason for this probably comes down to a few factors. Firstly there's no easy formula for factorials. The gamma function does give you factorials, but it's a hideous formula to use. In comparison, 1+2+...+n = n(n-1)/2, which is both easy enough to remember and very quick to calculate. Secondly, factorials come up a lot in some branches of mathematics, such as combinatorics, analysis and algebra. While triangle numbers do also come up a lot, it's rarely an issue to just use the formulaic version.

The Gamma function extends the factorial "function".  You could just as easily define ! for natural n by n! = n*(n-1)!, 0! =1.  It's not closed-form, though.

But yeah I agree with what you say.  Also, since infinite (or arbitrary-term finite) sums come up so often early on in education, we're used to seeing short-hand sigma and figuring out ways to evaluate them.  Arbitrary term products don't come up as often, and factorials come up much more often than an arbitrary PI_{i=1..n} a(i).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on November 08, 2013, 11:41:07 am
I think that dressing your students up in costumes and having them dance a sorting algorithm is unethical awesome.

I think you misspelled something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on November 08, 2013, 12:23:42 pm
or is it only multiplcation that has a short handy format, and in which case...why?

The reason for this probably comes down to a few factors. Firstly there's no easy formula for factorials. The gamma function does give you factorials, but it's a hideous formula to use. In comparison, 1+2+...+n = n(n-1)/2, which is both easy enough to remember and very quick to calculate. Secondly, factorials come up a lot in some branches of mathematics, such as combinatorics, analysis and algebra. While triangle numbers do also come up a lot, it's rarely an issue to just use the formulaic version.

1+2+3+...+n = n(n+1)/2
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 08, 2013, 12:34:36 pm
I think that dressing your students up in costumes and having them dance a sorting algorithm is unethical awesome.

I think you misspelled something.

I always confuse those two.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 08, 2013, 12:36:34 pm
or is it only multiplcation that has a short handy format, and in which case...why?

The reason for this probably comes down to a few factors. Firstly there's no easy formula for factorials. The gamma function does give you factorials, but it's a hideous formula to use. In comparison, 1+2+...+n = n(n-1)/2, which is both easy enough to remember and very quick to calculate. Secondly, factorials come up a lot in some branches of mathematics, such as combinatorics, analysis and algebra. While triangle numbers do also come up a lot, it's rarely an issue to just use the formulaic version.

1+2+3+...+n = n(n+1)/2

No, I'm pretty sure that 1+2=1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 08, 2013, 12:48:10 pm
or is it only multiplcation that has a short handy format, and in which case...why?

The reason for this probably comes down to a few factors. Firstly there's no easy formula for factorials. The gamma function does give you factorials, but it's a hideous formula to use. In comparison, 1+2+...+n = n(n-1)/2, which is both easy enough to remember and very quick to calculate. Secondly, factorials come up a lot in some branches of mathematics, such as combinatorics, analysis and algebra. While triangle numbers do also come up a lot, it's rarely an issue to just use the formulaic version.

1+2+3+...+n = n(n+1)/2

No, I'm pretty sure that 1+2=1.

And that 1=0.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 08, 2013, 01:16:41 pm
or is it only multiplcation that has a short handy format, and in which case...why?

The reason for this probably comes down to a few factors. Firstly there's no easy formula for factorials. The gamma function does give you factorials, but it's a hideous formula to use. In comparison, 1+2+...+n = n(n-1)/2, which is both easy enough to remember and very quick to calculate. Secondly, factorials come up a lot in some branches of mathematics, such as combinatorics, analysis and algebra. While triangle numbers do also come up a lot, it's rarely an issue to just use the formulaic version.

1+2+3+...+n = n(n+1)/2

No, I'm pretty sure that 1+2=1.

And that 1=0.

This checks out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 08, 2013, 01:21:08 pm
I approve, since I want the category of rings to have a terminal object.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 08, 2013, 01:46:32 pm
This is the most beautiful thing (http://www.theonion.com/articles/giant-burrito-to-solve-all-of-area-mans-problems-f,34479/) I have ever read.  It brought a tear to my eye.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on November 11, 2013, 05:56:03 pm
Does Le Havre rhyme with Brett Favre? Or is it some other pronunciation?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on November 11, 2013, 06:45:13 pm
I say Leh Harh vreh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on November 11, 2013, 06:48:52 pm
Does Le Havre rhyme with Brett Favre? Or is it some other pronunciation?
Oooh, I got this.  Since it's French, you don't pronounce the H.  So it sounds more like Le ahhve.  Except after the v, there's an r, and the French make this sound in the back of their throats that I can't do and so I sound stupid when I try to say "Le Havre".  So, I usually go "Le hervareverdeh" and my friends know what I'm talking about
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 11, 2013, 07:17:36 pm
It's pronounced "Lee-Haver."  Rhymes with "saver" with the emphasis on the first syllable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 11, 2013, 07:19:27 pm
Finally hit 1 trillion cookies per second, although I already had the achievement from the olden days when Elder Frenzy triggered it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ipofanes on November 12, 2013, 03:32:27 am
Does Le Havre rhyme with Brett Favre? Or is it some other pronunciation?
It certainly rhymes with Lucien Favre. So you may be on to something. I pronounce it [lə'ʔɑ:vʁ].
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 12, 2013, 08:54:41 am
Does Le Havre rhyme with Brett Favre? Or is it some other pronunciation?

It rhymes with Arbor and Barber,
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 15, 2013, 07:41:09 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/371/994/679.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on November 18, 2013, 12:35:32 am
2 things:

I have watched an embarrassing amount of the show Baggage (http://www.guidebox.com/#!GSN/Baggage/full-episodes/35/watch/197426) this weekend. It's a super ridiculous dating gameshow where all the contestant's air their worst "baggage" (I only bathe once every two weeks! I wear a tiara ALL of the time! I am 150k in debt and jobless! I scream in my sleep!) that they're bringing to the relationship. And it's HILARIOUS. Extra ridiculousness points for being hosted by Jerry Springer.

I have been mostly leaving cookie clicker running in background for the past few days and I just checked it and realized that I'm about to pass 1 quintillion lifetime cookies! Only 600 trillion to go.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on November 19, 2013, 10:42:09 pm
And I just accidentally refreshed my Cookie Clicker page and lost over 100 quadrillion in unpopped wrinklers... :( :( :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: manda2014 on November 20, 2013, 12:13:16 am
I have watched an embarrassing amount of the show Baggage (http://www.guidebox.com/#!GSN/Baggage/full-episodes/35/watch/197426) this weekend. It's a super ridiculous dating gameshow where all the contestant's air their worst "baggage" (I only bathe once every two weeks! I wear a tiara ALL of the time! I am 150k in debt and jobless! I scream in my sleep!) that they're bringing to the relationship. And it's HILARIOUS. Extra ridiculousness points for being hosted by Jerry Springer.

Baggage is LITERALLY the funniest show on television. We may or may not have watched ~50 episodes over the weekend. I'm in love.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on November 20, 2013, 09:47:42 am
I'll check out baggage sometime, I love a ridiculous show like that. 

In other news, I just got Black Cat's Paw, and am currently saving for my next anti-matter condenser, which costs just over 1 Quintillion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on November 20, 2013, 10:47:30 am
Just finished the ABCs of Death. I can see why it got such poor ratings.

It's a cool concept, but not all of the directors were up to the task.  It can be hard to convey an interesting story in only 2-5 minutes. Some of them didn't even bother with a story, which was a shame.

I'm also disappointed that there was not death by Zamboni.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on November 20, 2013, 03:48:42 pm
can't wait that long, gotta reset.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 20, 2013, 03:52:44 pm
Ever since the Halloween update I've mostly idled with wrinklers, sniping an occasional Elder Frenzy.  I'm not making much progress toward Black Cat's Paw any longer.  Well, cookies chains help.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on November 20, 2013, 05:30:11 pm
[rant]
The people who run my county's math meets have now officially had a wrong answer 2 out of 4 meets. I am extremely annoyed by this.
I am also really annoyed that they decided that math questions don't need proper grammar. They said to find the length of this segment, and there were two possible lengths, so it's ambiguous whether you should put both or put the length which makes their diagram to scale.
I am also mildly annoyed by the fact that 2 of the 6 questions on today's meet were basically the same thing; they both require the power of the point theorem for points outside of the circle.
I am also mildly annoyed by the fact that the first question of the five questions on a different math competition I did today can be solved in 10 seconds. Since you had 2 hours for the 5 questions, I think that they should all take about 24 minutes to solve.
[/rant]
So, yeah, pretty annoyed right now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 20, 2013, 05:48:24 pm
http://findtheinvisiblecow.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 20, 2013, 06:05:11 pm
[rant]
The people who run my county's maths meets have now officially had a wrong answer 2 out of 4 meets. I am extremely annoyed by this.
I am also really annoyed that they decided that maths questions don't need proper grammar. They said to find the length of this segment, and there were two possible lengths, so it's ambiguous whether you should put both or put the length which makes their diagram to scale.
I am also mildly annoyed by the fact that 2 of the 6 questions on today's meet were basically the same thing; they both require the power of the point theorem for points outside of the circle.
I am also mildly annoyed by the fact that the first question of the five questions on a different maths competition I did today can be solved in 10 seconds. Since you had 2 hours for the 5 questions, I think that they should all take about 24 minutes to solve.
[/rant]
So, yeah, pretty annoyed right now.


FTFY


Also, on the note of this 'Meet', is it an organised paid for event, or a volunteer thing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on November 20, 2013, 06:15:09 pm
I believe they receive some funding by the state (which I believe was cut in half this year) but there are also many volunteers.

Edit: The funding, not the state, was cut in half.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 20, 2013, 06:16:49 pm
I believe they receive some funding by the state (which I believe was cut in half this year) but there are also many volunteers.

Edit: The funding, not the state, was cut in half.


Haha, nice edit addition!

Ahh well yes if they are publically funded then they should get it right. I agree, Morons.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on November 20, 2013, 06:23:01 pm
I believe they receive some funding by the state (which I believe was cut in half this year) but there are also many volunteers.

Edit: The funding, not the state, was cut in half.


Haha, nice edit addition!

Ahh well yes if they are publically funded then they should get it right. I agree, Morons.
This is today:
Announcer: "The answer to number one is...15."
Everybody else: "What? Don't you mean 24?" [background expletives]
Announcer: "No, it says 15."
Somebody: "You mean that it's a 15-gon, which has exterior angle 24˚, so 24 is the answer, right?"
Announcer: "Um, we'll go back to that. Number 2..."
...later they said it was 24, thankfully.

The other problem they messed up on, let's just say that the error they made was approximately equal to this one:
1+2+3+8=14, but 1+2+8+3≠14. Duh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 20, 2013, 06:25:20 pm
I just double checked that on my calculator, but got distracted by making it say 8008135
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 20, 2013, 07:25:01 pm
http://findtheinvisiblecow.com/
this is so pointless...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 20, 2013, 07:44:48 pm
I'm up to 31.4 million invisible cows clicked...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on November 20, 2013, 09:29:52 pm
...aaaand we're back to 100 antimatter condensers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on November 20, 2013, 09:32:31 pm
How many HC? I've reset once, got 730 HC, and it took me over 24 hrs to get back to 100 AC.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on November 20, 2013, 09:45:30 pm
5546; too many.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 21, 2013, 07:45:45 am
5546; too many.

Wow. I haven't actually played cookie clicker in a while, despite me saying I was considering going for speedrun III. I guess I just generally got bored.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on November 21, 2013, 08:15:25 am
http://findtheinvisiblecow.com/
>Currently, the only supported browsers are Chrome, Firefox, Opera, and Safari.
Then why doesn't it support my Opera browser?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 23, 2013, 07:51:00 pm
I just noticed that the artwork Kirian chose for Retort (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8930421/dominion/retort.png) from rinkwork's mini-set contest is the same artwork Orteil used from Alchemy Labs in Cookie Clicker Classic (http://orteil.dashnet.org/experiments/cookie/).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 23, 2013, 08:25:45 pm
I just noticed that the artwork Kirian chose for Retort (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8930421/dominion/retort.png) from rinkwork's mini-set contest is the same artwork Orteil used from Alchemy Labs in Cookie Clicker Classic (http://orteil.dashnet.org/experiments/cookie/).

Whoa.  Cool!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on November 23, 2013, 08:34:51 pm
I just noticed that the artwork Kirian chose for Retort (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8930421/dominion/retort.png) from rinkwork's mini-set contest is the same artwork Orteil used from Alchemy Labs in Cookie Clicker Classic (http://orteil.dashnet.org/experiments/cookie/).

Whoa.  Cool!!

Public Domain, awwww yeeeeeeaaaah.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on November 23, 2013, 09:57:55 pm
(http://eqcomics.com/comics/2010-11-02-170-hand-man.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on November 25, 2013, 07:20:29 am
(http://www.steaksmoothie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/donkey.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on November 25, 2013, 02:48:22 pm
http://findtheinvisiblecow.com/

403 error?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: manda2014 on November 25, 2013, 11:39:31 pm
http://findtheinvisiblecow.com/
this is so pointless...

There is NO GOOD REASON that this is as entertaining as it is...

but I CAN'T STOP.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: manda2014 on November 25, 2013, 11:39:59 pm
The same, of course, goes for cookie clicker.........
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on November 26, 2013, 04:27:37 am
I just received my driver's licence!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 26, 2013, 06:08:22 am
I just received my driver's licence!

Welcome to freedom!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on November 26, 2013, 10:10:18 am
A license = permission to that which is otherwise illegal.

Marbury vs Madison cemented the constitutional right to freedom of travel.

What about travel is illegal, then?

Why do you need a license?

Welcome to slavery.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 26, 2013, 10:50:14 am
A license = permission to that which is otherwise illegal.

Marbury vs Madison cemented the constitutional right to freedom of travel.

What about travel is illegal, then?

Why do you need a license?

Welcome to slavery.

lol wut
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on November 26, 2013, 10:53:10 am
A license = permission to that which is otherwise illegal.

Marbury vs Madison cemented the constitutional right to freedom of travel.

What about travel is illegal, then?

Why do you need a license?

Welcome to slavery.

I concur, I certainly have the right to travel wherever and in whatever way I want.  Specifically, on a motorcycle through your living room.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on November 26, 2013, 11:00:57 am
You require a license because you registered your vehicle and thusly the privilege to use it comes with restrictions according to the terms of your voluntary contract.

http://freedom-school.com/travel/no-law-requires-you-to-record-pledge-your-private-automobile.pdf
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 26, 2013, 11:14:21 am
You require a license because you registered your vehicle and thusly the privilege to use it comes with restrictions according to the terms of your voluntary contract.

http://freedom-school.com/travel/no-law-requires-you-to-record-pledge-your-private-automobile.pdf


I just... I mean... wow, you actually believe that will fly?  Anywhere?  Where did you get your law degree?  Theory, you want to comment on this, since you actually have a law degree?

Requiring a driver's license to operate a vehicle on public roads does not infringe on freedom to travel.  In fact, many people who live in New York City, or many major European cities, do not have driver's licenses because they can use public transportation easily.

But you go on with your bad self, driving an unregistered vehicle without a license.  And when you get pulled over for it, remember to tell the officer you're a "sovereign citizen," because that's a total get-out-of-jail-free card.

----

Not to mention that Marbury v. Madison, and all of the court cases in that horrible-formatted document, don't apply to Awaclus.

Because he lives in Finland.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on November 26, 2013, 11:14:26 am
You require a license because you registered your vehicle and thusly the privilege to use it comes with restrictions according to the terms of your voluntary contract.

http://freedom-school.com/travel/no-law-requires-you-to-record-pledge-your-private-automobile.pdf

To drive on public roads...which others have the right to use, via bike if they want, in addition to, like, a host of other issues mostly related to driver ability (eyesight etc.)...um...RSP?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on November 26, 2013, 11:17:20 am
I have a registered vehicle and a license to operate it.  Sovereign Citizen is an oxymoron. Are we in the random stuff thread or the twilight zone?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on November 26, 2013, 11:24:50 am
...and then we had a threesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 26, 2013, 11:42:07 am
Of course this discussion all goes away when you use Freedom to mean freedom to travel great distances without relying on other people!

Or, he could be travelling to Freedom, Arizona on his first road trip
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on November 26, 2013, 11:57:16 am
(http://normanrockwellpaintings.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/four-freedoms-paintings-norman-rockwell.jpg)

It was of course later supplemented with the sovereign citizen painting, "Freedom from Logic".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on November 26, 2013, 02:05:49 pm
http://freedom-school.com/travel/no-law-requires-you-to-record-pledge-your-private-automobile.pdf

Nice, but it's no Timecube.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 26, 2013, 02:10:54 pm
I've just lost the game....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on November 26, 2013, 02:11:27 pm
Yeah, I did too earlier. Thanks for helping me to lose it once again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 26, 2013, 02:13:09 pm
Sorry, can't be helped, thems the rules
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on November 26, 2013, 02:24:17 pm
We have a new player, I just introduced a coworker.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on November 26, 2013, 04:01:18 pm
We have a new player, I just introduced a coworker.
But everyone is already playing the game, there are just some people who never lose it because they don't know about it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 26, 2013, 04:19:42 pm
We have a new player, I just introduced a coworker.
But everyone is already playing the game, there are just some people who never lose it because they don't know about it.

I don't play the game.  I used to, but not anymore.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 26, 2013, 04:23:11 pm
We have a new player, I just introduced a coworker.
But everyone is already playing the game, there are just some people who never lose it because they don't know about it.

I don't play the game.  I used to, but not anymore.

People say that, not you are playing. Unfortunately its not a choice...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 26, 2013, 04:24:20 pm
We have a new player, I just introduced a coworker.
But everyone is already playing the game, there are just some people who never lose it because they don't know about it.

I don't play the game.  I used to, but not anymore.

People say that, not you are playing. Unfortunately its not a choice...

The way you win is by realizing how you can win.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on November 26, 2013, 04:25:57 pm
We have a new player, I just introduced a coworker.
But everyone is already playing the game, there are just some people who never lose it because they don't know about it.

I don't play the game.  I used to, but not anymore.

People say that, not you are playing. Unfortunately its not a choice...

The way you win is by realizing how you can win.

Except there is no way to win. If you have found a way to win, you were playing another game.
You're still playing this one and losing im afraid
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on November 26, 2013, 04:33:17 pm
We have a new player, I just introduced a coworker.
But everyone is already playing the game, there are just some people who never lose it because they don't know about it.

I don't play the game.  I used to, but not anymore.

People say that, not you are playing. Unfortunately its not a choice...

The way you win is by realizing how you can win.
The statement is true: there is no way to win, thus, you can't realize how you can win, thus, there is no way to win.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on November 26, 2013, 04:53:36 pm
WELCOME TO SLAVERY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on November 26, 2013, 05:06:01 pm
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png) (http://www.xkcd.com/391/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on November 26, 2013, 05:40:37 pm
I've just lost the game....
I hate you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 26, 2013, 06:19:00 pm
It's taken me this long to realise I've just lost the game.

I'm somehow very good at reading or hearing that I've lost the game, and mentally not noting that means that I've actually just lost the game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on November 26, 2013, 08:03:43 pm
So you were losing all along you just didn't know the end game conditions. Kind of like not knowing the 3-pile end game condition in Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 26, 2013, 09:01:40 pm
I just wrote one of those programs that take ages to finish.  I'm curious what it's thinking right now...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on November 28, 2013, 07:15:32 pm
I just wrote one of those programs that take ages to finish.  I'm curious what it's thinking right now...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/934c7756d2c128779045533586783886/tumblr_mwy0ayKPSq1ru39xmo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 28, 2013, 07:31:09 pm
Do any of the math people here see a pattern in the sequence of numbers in the text file I attached?  There's 10,000 numbers in the sequence to help you...  I feel like there should be some pattern since a lot of the numbers reappear a lot.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 28, 2013, 07:31:57 pm
I can't see the file...

Edit: Nevermind, managed to open it anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 28, 2013, 07:48:11 pm
Alright, I had someone ask for me to post them in here.  You have been warned.

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Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on November 28, 2013, 07:56:02 pm
well, they're clearly not pure random, because 0 repeats a lot and they are all in the range of -199 to 199 it appears, but I doubt there is a pattern. More likely random w/weird probabilities for values... how were these numbers generated?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 28, 2013, 07:58:18 pm
Yeah, that's a really odd sequence of numbers. My initial observations after copying the numbers into Excel:

There's a lot of 0's. 5,700 of them, in fact. And plotting when they occur, it's very close to linear.

The power's of 2 are interesting. Each of the 2nth term is non-zero and except for t(2), are always larger than the nearby numbers.

Very few numbers only appear once - except for 6, 3 and 16 near the start, the first time a number appears for the first time is 189, the 8031st term. And considering this sequence (presumably) goes on forever, I would guess that it would be repeated, just at a higher term.

Like the 0's, negative numbers seem to be roughly linearly spread out.

I don't see any kind of obvious pattern, but there's definitely some kind of structure.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 28, 2013, 08:02:44 pm
Argh, I hate computers counting from zero.  Somewhere in the making of it it missed the first number, which is 1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: EternalDensity on November 28, 2013, 08:09:10 pm
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png) (http://www.xkcd.com/391/)
On the topic of xkcd and games (especially cookie clicker): http://castle.chirpingmustard.com
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 28, 2013, 08:31:09 pm
well, they're clearly not pure random, because 0 repeats a lot and they are all in the range of -199 to 199 it appears, but I doubt there is a pattern. More likely random w/weird probabilities for values... how were these numbers generated?

Nah, that's very unlikely... far too much structure and things defying probability. For example given a term is 0 and the previous term was non-zero, there's a ~79% chance the next term is also 0, while the rate of getting 0 overall is only ~57%. While given the current and previous term are zero and the term before that is also zero, the chance the next term is zero is only ~44%, well below what should be ~57%. Last 3 were zero and one before them wasn't? 31% chance the next is zero. And there are still hundreds of strings of four or more zeros, so there's plenty of data points to look at.

I can't see anything else obvious I can say about the numbers, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 28, 2013, 08:35:30 pm
well, they're clearly not pure random, because 0 repeats a lot and they are all in the range of -199 to 199 it appears, but I doubt there is a pattern. More likely random w/weird probabilities for values... how were these numbers generated?

Oops, I missed your question at the end there.  It was related to the collatz conjecture.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on November 28, 2013, 08:39:25 pm
well, they're clearly not pure random, because 0 repeats a lot and they are all in the range of -199 to 199 it appears, but I doubt there is a pattern. More likely random w/weird probabilities for values... how were these numbers generated?

Nah, that's very unlikely... far too much structure and things defying probability. For example given a term is 0 and the previous term was non-zero, there's a ~79% chance the next term is also 0, while the rate of getting 0 overall is only ~57%. While given the current and previous term are zero and the term before that is also zero, the chance the next term is zero is only ~44%, well below what should be ~57%. Last 3 were zero and one before them wasn't? 31% chance the next is zero. And there are still hundreds of strings of four or more zeros, so there's plenty of data points to look at.

I can't see anything else obvious I can say about the numbers, unfortunately.
hmmm, so the terms are clearly related to the previous terms... perhaps the previous term(s) just changes the probability of each value ocurring?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 28, 2013, 08:51:54 pm
well, they're clearly not pure random, because 0 repeats a lot and they are all in the range of -199 to 199 it appears, but I doubt there is a pattern. More likely random w/weird probabilities for values... how were these numbers generated?

Oops, I missed your question at the end there.  It was related to the collatz conjecture.

Huh. Mind saying how exactly, if you know?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on November 28, 2013, 08:57:01 pm
Your observation about the powers of 2 terms might suggest that divisions make the output more positive, while 3n+1ing might make it negative? Just brainstorming here
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on November 28, 2013, 09:00:21 pm
perhaps these numbers are somehow related to the number of iterations it takes for this collatz-conjecture-ish thing to balance out at where ever they do that? e.i, the first term is the number of iterations for 0, then 1, 2, etc. negative numbers are backwards? 0 is it never makes it? I don't know though really - I had to wikipedia what the collatz conjecture was :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 28, 2013, 09:09:34 pm
I wasn't wanting to say too much about it because the people who knew what it was would just find it preposterous to look for a pattern, but oh well.  I'm pretty sure that if there is a pattern to the sequence the Collatz Conjecture is true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 28, 2013, 09:12:30 pm
I wasn't wanting to say too much about it because the people who knew what it was would just find it preposterous to look for a pattern, but oh well.  I'm pretty sure that if there is a pattern to the sequence the Collatz Conjecture is true.

Haha, the old trick of setting a research problem as a homework assignment and hope an undergrad solves it for you.

That's quite a big claim you're making there. Notably what do you mean by if there's 'a pattern'? As in if it can be written as an explicit formula?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 28, 2013, 09:16:27 pm
Well, if the conjecture is true, the sequence will always have numbers.  If it isn't true, at some point one of the numbers in the sequence would be equal to Infinity.  I would think that finding a pattern in the numbers would show that the sequence will never have Infinity as an entry, and it would mean that it's true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 28, 2013, 09:26:45 pm
Hm, I think you have to be careful with that. For example, take the sequence generated by the formula 1/(x-20,000). Clearly this will have a pattern and obviously, a defining formula - but it fails/isn't defined/is infinite at 20,000. Now while we can see that clearly happens in this formula, but it could well be the case that the formula defining the pattern you're generating there is complex enough that working out if it's undefined/infinite at some points might be just as hard as solving the Collatz Conjecture itself.

Of course, if your formula can be generated by an equation of some form which can be proven to always output integers (or numbers, possibly, depending on what's necessary), then it works. But you can't assume that will happen.

Edit: Let's fix my formula since I derped.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 28, 2013, 09:58:35 pm
And, that's why I didn't want to say why it was in the first place because now everybody gives up...

Also, FYI, the formula you said is undefined until it hits the square root of 20,000.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on November 28, 2013, 11:23:06 pm
I wasn't wanting to say too much about it because the people who knew what it was would just find it preposterous to look for a pattern, but oh well.
And, that's why I didn't want to say why it was in the first place because now everybody gives up...

It's normal for people with mathematical minds to pretend from time to time that the simple, unsolved problems of mathematics are within their grasp.  If enough people keep pretending that, those problems won't stay unsolved forever.

If you remind me in ~a week and a half when I am no longer panicking over my thesis, I may look through/run tests on the numbers more carefully and see if I can find anything.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on November 28, 2013, 11:51:50 pm
Well, even sudgy doesn't expect their to be a pattern. He posted it in random stuff after all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 29, 2013, 12:54:38 am
I wasn't wanting to say too much about it because the people who knew what it was would just find it preposterous to look for a pattern, but oh well.
And, that's why I didn't want to say why it was in the first place because now everybody gives up...

It's normal for people with mathematical minds to pretend from time to time that the simple, unsolved problems of mathematics are within their grasp.  If enough people keep pretending that, those problems won't stay unsolved forever.

I was just doing a whole bunch of random stuff and saw how much organization there was with that list, and was curious if there was a pattern.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on November 29, 2013, 12:59:39 am
How exactly did you generate that sequence sudgy? It might be helpful to know, as much fun as it is to play numerical Zendo haha
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 29, 2013, 01:12:50 am
This is the number of iterations (I think that's a correct usage of the word?) needed for each of these numbers to reach one:

1: 1
2: 2
3: 8
4: 3
5: 6
6: 9
7: 17
8: 4
9: 20
10: 7
11: 15
12: 10
13: 10
14: 18
15: 18
...

If all odd numbers reach one, all even ones do too.  If we have a large list of what we know reaches one, all the even numbers up to twice as big as the highest number we know also reach one.  So if we can find a pattern in how much difference there is from an even number to the next odd number, that means we can keep using that to get all natural numbers.  The difference from each even number to the next odd number is this:

(actually, now I see why my program left out the one, I was thinking you should 1->2 also :P)

8 - 2 = 6
6 - 3 = 3
17 - 9 = 8
20 - 4 = 16
15 - 7 = 8
10 - 10 = 0
18 - 18 = 0
...

And that's the sequence.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on November 29, 2013, 04:15:02 am
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png) (http://www.xkcd.com/391/)
On the topic of xkcd and games (especially cookie clicker): http://castle.chirpingmustard.com

I'm not entirely sure what's happening yet, but this is brilliant:

Quote
Math.ceil(Math.PI) castles
196 sand of 377 needed
0 sand/mNP
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on November 29, 2013, 08:09:14 am
I still don't understand what your sequence is doing... in particular can you clarify this?

"So if we can find a pattern in how much difference there is from an even number to the next odd number, that means we can keep using that to get all natural numbers.  The difference from each even number to the next odd number is this"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on November 29, 2013, 08:28:43 am
I still don't understand what your sequence is doing... in particular can you clarify this?

"So if we can find a pattern in how much difference there is from an even number to the next odd number, that means we can keep using that to get all natural numbers.  The difference from each even number to the next odd number is this"

I think what he's saying is that the proposition "it is possible to predict the next number in this sequence" is equivalent to the Collatz conjecture.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on November 29, 2013, 12:38:14 pm
Say we know that these numbers reach one (which we do):

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

Now, obviously, double all these numbers reach one two, so we know:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20 (and more doubles)

If we can figure out a way to find out how the next odd number reaches one (through iterations), then we can fill in the odd numbers:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20

Now we can double these...etc.

There could be easier ways, but that sequence that I made just looks so uniform that I feel it has to have something...

I still don't understand what your sequence is doing... in particular can you clarify this?

"So if we can find a pattern in how much difference there is from an even number to the next odd number, that means we can keep using that to get all natural numbers.  The difference from each even number to the next odd number is this"

The first sentence I just explained earlier in this post, and the second sentence is leading up to the sequence which I say right afterwards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on November 29, 2013, 01:15:02 pm
There could be easier ways, but that sequence that I made just looks so uniform that I feel it has to have something...

The frequency of digits in pi are pretty uniform after you go so far, but that doesn't mean there's a pattern.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on November 30, 2013, 11:02:17 pm
I know Cookie Clicker is totes passe by now, but I left it running all week, and upon my return just now, I popped my wrinklers for 250 quadrillion* EACH. Dwarfed by some of your empires no doubt but it sure felt good.



*250 billiard in Ozle units
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on December 01, 2013, 01:31:47 am
I've finally figured out how to use Inspect Element and I'm having way too much fun with it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on December 01, 2013, 04:54:28 am
Here's a crazy function. It's defined for these values:

f(0) = 6
f(1) = 2
f(2) = 5
f(3) = 5
f(4) = 4
f(5) = 5
f(6) = 6
f(7) = 3
f(8) = 7
f(9) = 6

What's up with this cah-razy function?

Here's another one in a similar vein. It is well-defined for numbers from 1 to at least 89.

g(1) = 1
g(2) = 2
g(3) = 3
g(4) = 3
g(5) = 2
g(6) = 3
g(7) = 4
g(8) = 5
g(9) = 3
g(10) = 2
g(11) = 3
g(12) = 4
g(13) = 5
g(14) = 5
g(15) = 4
g(16) = 5
g(17) = 6
g(18) = 7
g(19) = 5
g(20) = 4
g(21) = 5
g(22) = 6
g(23) = 7
g(24) = 7
g(25) = 6
g(26) = 7
g(27) = 8
g(28) = 9
g(29) = 7
g(30) = 6
g(31) = 7
g(32) = 8
g(33) = 9
g(34) = 9
g(35) = 8
g(36) = 9
g(37) = 10
g(38) = 11
g(39) = 9
g(40) = 4
g(41) = 5
g(42) = 6
g(43) = 7
g(44) = 7
g(45) = 6
g(46) = 7
g(47) = 8
g(48) = 9
g(49) = 7
g(50) = 2
...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on December 01, 2013, 04:55:10 am
That's not an error. Cool smileys are part of the domain.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 01, 2013, 08:25:28 am
Cool smileys have certainly been part of the domain of discourse (http://gowers.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/a-conversation-about-complexity-lower-bounds/).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 01, 2013, 12:57:27 pm
That's not an error. Cool smileys are part of the domain.

He's the shaded portion of the domain.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 02, 2013, 08:30:14 am
Finally hit 1 trillion cookies per second, although I already had the achievement from the olden days when Elder Frenzy triggered it.

Just hit 2 trillion cookies per second.  I started playing on October 13, so my first trillion took 29 days, and my second trillion took 21 days.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 02, 2013, 11:04:00 am
As of today: I have a handlebar moustache
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 02, 2013, 12:46:05 pm
As of today: I have a handlebar moustache

Shave off your no-shave November beard?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 02, 2013, 01:38:00 pm
As of today: I have a handlebar moustache

Shave off your no-shave November beard?
Well, I started back in October, so it had been going for 2 months.  But basically yes :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 02, 2013, 06:43:00 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5eac7486b50662408a3b5d1df58bc8b0/tumblr_mw9ltbfHDI1ru39xmo1_500.gif)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/c83b62708e4151e01536abd9a6625dd2/tumblr_mwwwbrKS2z1ru39xmo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on December 02, 2013, 09:02:16 pm
seems like this thread just keeps coming back to fractals :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 03, 2013, 11:47:34 am
I think I'll try my hand at dramatic readings. My first attempt may be to recite "Ed" by King Missile. I'll have to work on a voice that conveys squeaky and whiny while still being dramatic.

Here are the lyrics. The line feeds are terrible, but it would just be a whole screen full of words if I remove them. Also, there are some transcription errors. I obviously need to find the official lyrics. I have the album so I can verify it from the jacket.



Ed was at the end of his rope, an expression he detested.  "There is no
rope!" he would scream at the laughing walls.  "There is only the end.
No hope, no rope.  Ending is better than mending.  Doors of perception,
windows of opportunity -- these are illusions, like the killing floor."
Ed spoke in a squeaky whiny voice with perhaps a slight tinge of glee,
but this was only because he couldn't be bothered to try to develop a
manner of speaking that truly reflected his mood.  "This is a vaccuum.
There is no air in this room.  Despair is no fun anymore.  Nihilism
knocked three times on the ceiling, but the rosy fingers of dawn always
inserted themselves in the nose of unfulfilled promises.  Angels sang
Heysanna Hosanna, paralyzed prima-donnas danced in the streets all day,
but when darkness came, everybody went home.  I was ready - everyone
else was asleep.  And while it may have been a relief to see that I was
right all along, here I am still: alone and trapped, awaiting the
endless end.  And I can turn it all around, and laugh at it and laugh at
myself; I can laugh louder than the walls, the halls the waterfalls,
louder than Charles de Gaul or Fulton Mall, but I don't know what I'm
laughing at, I don't know just what I think is so goddamn funny.  I
don't know why I don't just shut up and give up and lay down and die.
What do I have to complain about anyway," Ed asked his Picasso, "I'm a
millionaire!"  This wasn't exactly true.  Ed's Picasso was an obvious
forgery, his three Rothkos had just been singled out in an article in
ARTFORUM entitled "The three most insignificant paintings of Mark
Rothko," and his Barbara Kruegers had been irreparably damaged by Rein
Sanction and a few other bands from Gainesville that refused to
acknowledge the value of art.
"Come to think of it," Ed mused to the laminated roadkill coffee table
that he had purchased when times had seemed slightly less bleak, "Come
to think of it, not only does art have no intrinsic value, but my
collection has no extrinsic value either.  I know I'm not a millionaire,
but that's no reason to complain.  There is no reason to complain.
There is no reason to do anything.  I don't believe in reason, objective
reality, or collective farming.  I don't believe in public speaking,
which is another reason why I'm here alone.  I don't believe in life or
death, I would kill myself, but I don't believe in suicide."  Ed put on
a red shirt and took a quick walk around the block while whistling
softly to himself.  He reentered his apartment screaming, "There is no
life on this planet!  Jehovah-One replaced all life with machinery five
centuries ago.  the so-called industrial revolution was just another
hoax and we all fell for it, 'cause we were all programmed to.  Even I
fell for it, I believe in the steam engine, even though I don't believe
in anything.  Logical inconsistency is the Mr. bubble I bathe in each
and every evening, except for yesterday evening, when I rollerbladed
over to the Masonic temple to play pinochle with Pope John Paul the
First.  I really had no choice in the matter."  "Ed certainly could go
on and on, and he did, and he would, and he will, until you or I or
somebody does something about it."  Senator Sterno of Arkansas announced
over closed circuit television.  "And as long as he continues to
pontificate pointlessly, I will do nothing."  Ed walked away from the
program feeling fortified and stapled.  His brain was buzzing, the way
it always did just after Jeopardy.  He loaded up the microbus with
Atlases and poseidons and headed for Pope county.
"I've had it."  He sang, "I've had it with puns, alliteration, russian
literature, Italian neorealism, meaningless cross references and laundry
lists of nonsense.  I shall dive without a license, without clothing,
without direction and if I make it to Louisiana, fine, and if I'm
running late, if I'm running a numbers game, it doesn't matter, I shall
keep on running.  Yes, this is the answer.  This is the ending, I shall
keep on running, because a body in motion tends to stay emotional, and
it's better to feel.  Pain is better than emptiness, emptiness is better
than nothing, and nothing is better than this."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on December 03, 2013, 12:09:14 pm
seems like this thread just keeps coming back to fractals :P

It turns out the contents of this thread are governed by iterating a certain topic-generating function.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 03, 2013, 01:03:53 pm
seems like this thread just keeps coming back to fractals :P

It turns out the contents of this thread are governed by iterating a certain topic-generating function.

It could turn in and achieve the same result.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 03, 2013, 01:41:19 pm
seems like this thread just keeps coming back to fractals :P

In the end, everything comes back to fractals...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 03, 2013, 01:45:33 pm
seems like this thread just keeps coming back to fractals :P

In the end, everything comes back to fractals...

Even fractals come back to fractals...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 03, 2013, 02:51:33 pm
(http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1386100205156329002.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 06, 2013, 12:12:20 pm
I am rapidly forming the opinion that there is not a WalrusMcFishJr....anyone with me?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle Jr. on December 06, 2013, 03:53:13 pm
Papa??
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 06, 2013, 03:55:06 pm
I just sent an attachment that was 24,996 KB.  The max 25 MB...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 06, 2013, 03:56:02 pm
Papa??

I thought for sure someone was going to create a WalrusMcFishJr account and reply "Nope." I am not into making multiple accounts, so I will leave that as another exercise for Ozl-- I mean, Eevee.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 06, 2013, 03:57:32 pm
Papa??

As I say to all the ladies...

DNA test or it didn't happen
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on December 06, 2013, 04:03:25 pm
I just sent an attachment that was 24,996 KB.  The max 25 MB...

Then you weren't very close, were you? :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on December 06, 2013, 04:11:14 pm
Papa??

I thought for sure someone was going to create a WalrusMcFishJr account and reply "Nope." I am not into making multiple accounts, so I will leave that as another exercise for Ozl-- I mean, Eevee WanderingWinder.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 06, 2013, 04:18:58 pm
I just sent an attachment that was 24,996 KB.  The max 25 MB...

Then you weren't very close, were you? :P

Reminds me of the Petrol Pump game...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 06, 2013, 04:37:34 pm
I just sent an attachment that was 24,996 KB.  The max 25 MB...

Then you weren't very close, were you? :P

24,996 KB == 24.4102 MB

assuming the comma isn't meant to be a decimal point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on December 06, 2013, 04:50:47 pm
I just sent an attachment that was 24,996 KB.  The max 25 MB...

Then you weren't very close, were you? :P

24,996 KB == 24.4102 MB

assuming the comma isn't meant to be a decimal point.

Oh, oops! Yeah I thought it was a decimal point. Nothing to see here... :-X
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 07, 2013, 01:56:54 am
Question: Should I do a cover of Chocolate Rain, as I can make my voice sound really deep?

Update: I'm actually pretty close to finishing this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 07, 2013, 10:02:08 am
As of today: I have a handlebar moustache
And now it's gone
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 07, 2013, 10:52:28 am
As of today: I have a handlebar moustache
And now it's gone

The problem with having a handlebar moustache is that you keep getting taken for a ride.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 07, 2013, 01:14:12 pm
So, the house I am buying has fallen through at the very last minute.
Meaning I am a good chunk of money wasted
My current Flat renting has already had its tennancy handed in, so come the end of Jan I'll be homeless.
And house prices have risen drastically in the last few months while I was going through the process meaning it is unlikely I can afford another house now.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 07, 2013, 01:42:47 pm
As of today: I have a handlebar moustache
And now it's gone

The problem with having a handlebar moustache is that you keep getting taken for a ride.
Seriously..


Ozle:
I +1 to show support, even though that does not seem appropriate.  That sounds like a very disappointing and frustrating situation.  I will definitely send some prayers your way.  I hope you can find a new place soon!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 07, 2013, 01:48:58 pm
Yeah, depressed doesn't really cover it.

Finding a new place before end of Jan will be impossible, and it probably means the mate I had lined up as a lodger to help pay the bills will probably need to find somewhere else as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on December 07, 2013, 01:58:45 pm
Hope everything turns out well Ozle!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on December 07, 2013, 02:02:31 pm
I am really sorry ozle. I hope that a good resolution presents itself somehow. That's a tough spot to be in.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on December 07, 2013, 02:10:39 pm
That sucks. You'll figure it out though!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on December 07, 2013, 07:21:33 pm
That sucks. You'll figure it out though!

He could move to Finland and crash with you!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 08, 2013, 09:59:44 am
http://distractify.com/fun/fails/dogs-who-are-shamelessly-proud-of-what-they-just-did/

This is just about the most hilarious thing I've read in months.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 08, 2013, 01:14:52 pm
That sucks. You'll figure it out though!

He could move to Finland and crash with you!

Haha, im not sure i could keep up with his extravagant life!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 08, 2013, 01:15:50 pm
Is anbody watching lions vs eagles ?

Ive never seen a game played in such a blizzard!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 08, 2013, 01:25:48 pm
Is anbody watching lions vs eagles ?

Ive never seen a game played in such a blizzard!

Well, the blizzard must balance things out; eagles would normally have a huge advantage thanks to flight.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 08, 2013, 06:17:54 pm
Is anbody watching lions vs eagles ?

Ive never seen a game played in such a blizzard!

Well, the blizzard must balance things out; eagles would normally have a huge advantage thanks to flight.

Snow Gryphon

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/014/4/3/snow_gryphon_by_outofkitchen-d375wwq.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 08, 2013, 06:18:57 pm
http://distractify.com/fun/fails/dogs-who-are-shamelessly-proud-of-what-they-just-did/

This is just about the most hilarious thing I've read in months.

*note to self*
Must try harder....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 08, 2013, 06:20:56 pm
http://distractify.com/fun/fails/dogs-who-are-shamelessly-proud-of-what-they-just-did/

This is just about the most hilarious thing I've read in months.

*note to self*
Must try harder....

I never read anything that you write.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 08, 2013, 06:21:52 pm
http://distractify.com/fun/fails/dogs-who-are-shamelessly-proud-of-what-they-just-did/

This is just about the most hilarious thing I've read in months.

*note to self*
Must try harder....

I never read anything that you write.

To be honest, neither do I...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 10, 2013, 11:06:46 am
assuming the comma isn't meant to be a decimal point.

The designators for the decimal and thousands across nations bug me. I wish we could agree on one standard and use it. Being American, I'd prefer the decimal point, but I'd be willing to change if it meant unifying our number displays. It's those other Americans you have to work on. I mean, you'd think that foreign things (like the metric system) are satanic or something around here. Good luck telling them that 1.234,56 makes any sort of sense.

I was going to comment next on the difference in billion between America and England, but I see that's actually been resolved (USA, USA, USA). Though really, that difference is easily overcome with scientific notation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 10, 2013, 12:16:23 pm
assuming the comma isn't meant to be a decimal point.

The designators for the decimal and thousands across nations bug me. I wish we could agree on one standard and use it. Being American, I'd prefer the decimal point...

Being American, I agree. Being American, I also prefer everyone adopts the metric system. Wait a minute, I got that backwards, didn't I?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on December 10, 2013, 12:19:20 pm
I think the decimal point is starting to take over here slowly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 10, 2013, 12:20:22 pm
Adopt the scientific community standard, then:

12 338 953.228 31

No commas anywhere.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on December 10, 2013, 12:22:16 pm
hat scientific community uses that many digits anyway?
1.233*10^7
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 10, 2013, 12:31:41 pm
hat scientific community uses that many digits anyway?
1.233*10^7

Metrologists.  They're in charge of all the significant digits in everything anyway.  They will generally prefer scientific notation though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 10, 2013, 03:06:21 pm
hat scientific community uses that many digits anyway?
1.233*10^7

Calculating constants to unnecessary levels of precision does. As well as things like number theory, or large specific numbers, or the like.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 10, 2013, 03:42:11 pm
I don't have any ideas for the mechanics of this game, but I've managed to think up the concept of a board game. It's called Malpractice Mania, and the idea is that you play incompetent surgeons trying to get away with 'accidentally' killing patients for as long as possible.

I'm sure this is a terrible idea, but oh well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 10, 2013, 03:45:51 pm
I don't have any ideas for the mechanics of this game, but I've managed to think up the concept of a board game. It's called Malpractice Mania, and the idea is that you play incompetent surgeons trying to get away with 'accidentally' killing patients for as long as possible.

I'm sure this is a terrible idea, but oh well.
I don't know, I'd play it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 10, 2013, 04:16:57 pm
I don't have any ideas for the mechanics of this game, but I've managed to think up the concept of a board game. It's called Malpractice Mania, and the idea is that you play incompetent surgeons trying to get away with 'accidentally' killing patients for as long as possible.

I'm sure this is a terrible idea, but oh well.

This sounds amazing.  Except if "accidentally" is in quotes... um. :P

Unless you want the murder-y edge to it, maybe you have ways to cause others' patients to die (thematically abstracted away as fate or something rather than your surgeon's own actions).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on December 10, 2013, 04:20:46 pm
That's awesome. I probably won't end up getting around to doing it, but mind if I steal that idea?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on December 10, 2013, 04:24:35 pm
I don't have any ideas for the mechanics of this game, but I've managed to think up the concept of a board game. It's called Malpractice Mania, and the idea is that you play incompetent surgeons trying to get away with 'accidentally' killing patients for as long as possible.

I'm sure this is a terrible idea, but oh well.

I could imagine playing with an ordinary game of Operation, except for some, it would be advantageous to occasionally 'slip'...the review board ('town') would try to figure out who was doing it on purpose.

Edit: Misread as 'Malpractice Mafia'. Still a reasonable premise
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 10, 2013, 04:27:58 pm
It's called Malpractice Mania, and the idea is that you play incompetent surgeons trying to get away with 'accidentally' killing patients for as long as possible.

I don't know, usually when I play games I'm looking for a break from work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 10, 2013, 06:03:03 pm
Koalas man.  Turn up the volume.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsOxk_ThKio

Apparently the sound directors of Jurassic Park used male koala recordings to create the roar for the tyrannosaurs.  Source. (http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/12/02/why-do-koalas-have-such-low-voices/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: popsofctown on December 10, 2013, 06:23:16 pm
Bucket is sitting in my lap while I play innovation.  He is a very sweet kitty.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 10, 2013, 06:58:50 pm
I don't have any ideas for the mechanics of this game, but I've managed to think up the concept of a board game. It's called Malpractice Mania, and the idea is that you play incompetent surgeons trying to get away with 'accidentally' killing patients for as long as possible.

I'm sure this is a terrible idea, but oh well.

There's Pain Doctors (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1453/pain-doctors-the-game-of-recreational-surgery).

Though, that's less about malpractice and more about horror-level sadism at the end of a scalpel. Also, not a very good game. You would do better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on December 10, 2013, 07:02:00 pm
I don't have any ideas for the mechanics of this game, but I've managed to think up the concept of a board game. It's called Malpractice Mania, and the idea is that you play incompetent surgeons trying to get away with 'accidentally' killing patients for as long as possible.

I'm sure this is a terrible idea, but oh well.
I'd play!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 10, 2013, 07:07:30 pm
In today's xkcd What If (http://what-if.xkcd.com/75/), various sentences with odd QWERTY properties are presented.  For "Right hand only" we have "buy my puppy milk, lol".  And thus I have just realized that some people type the B key with their right hand.  I use my left hand though.

What hand do you use to type B?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on December 10, 2013, 07:11:35 pm
What hand do you use to type B?
Left hand with my pointer finger. Granted, I tried pressing it with different fingers to figure out which one felt right.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on December 10, 2013, 07:13:33 pm
Left hand with pointer finger is the "correct" way to do it!   I concede that this is wholly, 100% arbitrary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 10, 2013, 07:15:27 pm
which ever finger is closer to the key when my eyes finally spot it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on December 10, 2013, 07:21:14 pm
Is using left hands thumb bad?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 10, 2013, 07:26:53 pm
Is using left hands thumb bad?

Probably not bad if you're used to it.  Weird though, I think.  My thumbs only ever hit the space bar.  I use left pointer for B, like theory.

Which hand do you use for the space bar?  I think I alternate, but I'm actually not sure.  Every time I try to pay attention while typing, it feels weird on either hand. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on December 10, 2013, 07:29:10 pm
Is using left hands thumb bad?

Probably not bad if you're used to it.  Weird though, I think.  My thumbs only ever hit the space bar.  I use left pointer for B, like theory.

Which hand do you use for the space bar?  I think I alternate, but I'm actually not sure.  Every time I try to pay attention while typing, it feels weird on either hand. :P
Left thumb there as well it seems.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 10, 2013, 07:43:18 pm
I use my left hand for B, right hand for H, both for Y (most likely left hand if it's a capital Y, right hand if it's a small y since I never use the left shift). Sometimes I might use right hand for B if I'm typing something like "base", or left hand for H if I'm typing something like "HP".

Also, I thought I was using both thumbs for space bar, but apparently it's just my right thumb. The left thumb is just laying on top of the space bar doing nothing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 10, 2013, 07:46:22 pm
The split for my hand is 5-t-g-b for my left hand and 6-y-h-n for my right.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 10, 2013, 08:06:20 pm
I use my left hand for B, right hand for H, both for Y (most likely left hand if it's a capital Y, right hand if it's a small y since I never use the left shift). Sometimes I might use right hand for B if I'm typing something like "base", or left hand for H if I'm typing something like "HP".

Also, I thought I was using both thumbs for space bar, but apparently it's just my right thumb. The left thumb is just laying on top of the space bar doing nothing.

The split for my hand is 5-t-g-b for my left hand and 6-y-h-n for my right.

I think my split is 6-t-g-b for left hand and 7-y-h-n for right.  I am a bit unsure about that 6 but it does feel weirder using the right hand for it.

I still use left hand for b even for a word like "base", and right hand for h even for "HP".  My hands are perfectly comfortable with index on b/h and pinky on a/p.  I have no problem using either hand for shift. 

I think I use either hand for space bar, depending on what letter I'm typing immediately before or after the space... but I can't tell which way I do it.  If I try to slow down to figure it out, it just feels weird.  ???

Has anybody type Dvorak?  Anybody tried?  I have some friends who use it, just to be different. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 10, 2013, 08:07:53 pm
Apparently I use right pointer finger for b.

I did not learn touch-typing.  I do very weird things when I type, including crossing my hands over one another for some words, or using both hands on one side of the keyboard at the same time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 10, 2013, 08:08:08 pm
Agh, now I'm trying to figure out which hand I use to press space bar.

And I did that whole sentence with my left hand.  Apparently I use my left hand to hit space bar.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on December 10, 2013, 08:21:09 pm
Space: Right
B: Left
Y: Varies
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on December 10, 2013, 08:25:55 pm
I believe I use my left hand for v-g-y-6 and my right hand for 7-u-h-b-space. left thumb does nothing except for the alt key, right thumb only hits space
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 10, 2013, 09:10:31 pm
I have to use my pointy stick as my fingers are too fat
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 11, 2013, 03:07:33 am
My split is left 5-r-f-c, right 7-u-h-n. I use my nose for 6,t,y,g,v and b.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 11, 2013, 08:23:43 am
Has anybody type Dvorak?  Anybody tried?  I have some friends who use it, just to be different. :P

I've not used a non-QWERTY keyboard.

I did experiment with a one-handed keyboard. It was interesting. It was a demo for some portable keyboard that you could attach to your….man, I can't remember what it was. I'm thinking PDA because this predated smart phones.

The demo only allowed you to type keys on one half of the keyboard (which half depends on your handedness). You hold down a new key with your thumb to flip the keyboard so that L and S are interchangeable, as are I and E.

It was remarkably easy to type one-handedly. There was some stumbling, but it felt natural after a while. Obviously still slower, but it'd be interesting to see if someone could type just as quickly. I'm guessing not just because there is that split second between fingers on opposite hands that just make the letters appear near-simultaneous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on December 11, 2013, 07:37:48 pm
"b" is whatever I feel like (I dont' know when I do it.) I also use my middle finger for u and my ring finger for q.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on December 11, 2013, 11:20:46 pm
Has anybody type Dvorak?  Anybody tried?  I have some friends who use it, just to be different. :P

I've not used a non-QWERTY keyboard.

I did experiment with a one-handed keyboard. It was interesting. It was a demo for some portable keyboard that you could attach to your….man, I can't remember what it was. I'm thinking PDA because this predated smart phones.

The demo only allowed you to type keys on one half of the keyboard (which half depends on your handedness). You hold down a new key with your thumb to flip the keyboard so that L and S are interchangeable, as are I and E.

It was remarkably easy to type one-handedly. There was some stumbling, but it felt natural after a while. Obviously still slower, but it'd be interesting to see if someone could type just as quickly. I'm guessing not just because there is that split second between fingers on opposite hands that just make the letters appear near-simultaneous.
Two one-handed keyboards might be the fastest way to type of all. Every word could be completely alternated between hands. Man would that ever be hard to learn though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 12, 2013, 03:44:31 am
Has anybody here tried a KALQ keyboard? It's optimised for thumb-typing (i.e. phones and tablets) and I thought it sounded amazing when I first read about it, but you couldn't actually download one at the time. Should I give it a go?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on December 12, 2013, 07:59:13 am
anybody else get really upset when they have to type on non-standard keyboards?

At work, if I have to use one of the math department's terminals instead of my laptop, they all have Sun Microsystems-style keyboards.  Very infuriating.  Especially when typing LaTeX code, because the '\' key is used frequently and my pinky gets flippin' tired from the stretch.

Also, one of my two main criteria when buying a laptop was "does not have a condensed keyboard".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 12, 2013, 02:59:31 pm
I just accidentally completed a "28 hours per day, 6 days per week" experiment. It worked pretty well, except on Monday when I had to stay awake longer than I wanted to because I had to attend to a mathematics class (my apologies for the large number of low quality posts that night).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 12, 2013, 03:21:03 pm
http://xkcd.com/320/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on December 12, 2013, 03:27:33 pm
http://dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/ (http://dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 12, 2013, 03:58:46 pm
http://www.digitalchestnut.com/merryclickmas/

Here you go, cookie-heads.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on December 12, 2013, 04:05:08 pm
http://www.digitalchestnut.com/merryclickmas/

Here you go, cookie-heads.

Damn you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 12, 2013, 04:47:41 pm
http://www.digitalchestnut.com/merryclickmas/

Here you go, cookie-heads.
Does this actually end when you have 1 present for each person currently alive?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 12, 2013, 04:51:18 pm
My favorite part is the decorations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on December 12, 2013, 05:00:35 pm
http://www.digitalchestnut.com/merryclickmas/

Here you go, cookie-heads.
After about 7 minutes

Santa needs your help. Create 7.1 billion presents in time for Christmas!

Productivity
Toy multiplier: x2
Wrapping multiplier: x2
Song multiplier: x2

Statistics
Total toys made by clicking: 14,429 (59%)
Total toys made by elves: 9,935 (41%)
Total presents wrapped by clicking: 15,796 (66%)
Total presents wrapped by elves: 8,288 (34%)
Songs sung: 1

Upgrades (12 of 42)
Christmas sing-song
Elbow grease
Tape dispenser
Two-handed chisel
Scissor gliding
Hire an elf
Thor's hammer
Spray wrap
2nd floor
Reindeer stables
Sewing machines

http://www.digitalchestnut.com/merryclickmas/

Here you go, cookie-heads.

Damn you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 12, 2013, 05:11:10 pm
http://www.digitalchestnut.com/merryclickmas/

Here you go, cookie-heads.
Does this actually end when you have 1 present for each person currently alive?
Answer to my own question: Looking at the source code, apparently it ends when you have exactly 7.1 billion presents wrapped.

EDIT: I assume that SirPeebles's request was aimed at me, so I spoiler tagged this. Spoilers are good for you, though, so you should read it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 12, 2013, 05:26:13 pm
Whoa, spoiler tags maybe?  I'm still only at about 50 million presents.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 12, 2013, 06:18:31 pm
Whoa, the Christmas tree is fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 12, 2013, 06:19:01 pm
This (http://www.quietroom.co.uk/santa_brandbook/one) is rather fantastic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 12, 2013, 07:55:12 pm
http://www.digitalchestnut.com/merryclickmas/

Here you go, cookie-heads.

Damn you.

Glad I could help!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 12, 2013, 08:18:46 pm
My favorite part is the decorations.

It's pretty neat. I've got 28 decorations so far. Anyone want to share suggestions? I realise a lot of people won't so... spoiler tags.

a Christmas tree
tinsel
baubles
a star
an angel
a fairy
Christmas lights
mistletoe
holly
Christmas presents
wrapping paper
candy canes
chocolate decorations
a nativity scene
a figure of Mary
a figure of Joseph
a figure of Jesus
shepherd figures
wise men figures
a robin decoration
a reindeer decoration
a santa decoration
an elf decoration
a Christmas pudding decoration
a turkey decoration
a snowman
snow decoration
santa hats
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 12, 2013, 08:29:52 pm
I just decided to add a decoration - Salty Elf Tears and it got accepted.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 12, 2013, 08:55:12 pm
My favorite part is the decorations.

It's pretty neat. I've got 28 decorations so far. Anyone want to share suggestions? I realise a lot of people won't so... spoiler tags.

a Christmas tree
tinsel
baubles
a star
an angel
a fairy
Christmas lights
mistletoe
holly
Christmas presents
wrapping paper
candy canes
chocolate decorations
a nativity scene
a figure of Mary
a figure of Joseph
a figure of Jesus
shepherd figures
wise men figures
a robin decoration
a reindeer decoration
a santa decoration
an elf decoration
a Christmas pudding decoration
a turkey decoration
a snowman
snow decoration
santa hats


My list so far:

a Christmas tree
glass ornaments
a star
an angel
Christmas lights
bells
a Christmas wreath
mistletoe
holly
Christmas presents
toys
a Christmas stocking
candy canes
chocolate decorations
a nativity scene
a figure of Mary
a figure of Joseph
a figure of Jesus
wise men figures
a reindeer decoration
a santa decoration
an elf decoration
a sleigh decoration
a snowman
snow decoration
santa hats
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 12, 2013, 09:05:32 pm
Woohoo, I saved Christmas!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 12, 2013, 09:06:52 pm
I found 50 decorations.

Current speed: 300%

Decorations (each decoration adds +4% speed):
a Christmas tree
tinsel
baubles
glass ornaments
a star
an angel
a fairy
a cherub
pine cones
Christmas lights
candles
bells
a trumpet
a drum
glitter
a Merry Christmas banner
a Christmas wreath
mistletoe
holly
an advent calendar
Christmas crackers
Christmas cards
Christmas presents
toys
wrapping paper
a Christmas stocking
candy canes
chocolate decorations
a nativity scene
a figure of Mary
a figure of Joseph
a figure of Jesus
wise men figures
a toy soldier
a donkey decoration
a reindeer decoration
a penguin decoration
a polar bear decoration
a santa decoration
an elf decoration
a sleigh decoration
a Christmas pudding decoration
a turkey decoration
a chimney decoration
a snow globe
a snowman
snow decoration
icicles
santa hats
a lump of coal
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 12, 2013, 09:15:31 pm
If you're interested SirPeebles, the only ones I have that you don't are:
A Christmas sack
Shepherd figures
A Robin decoration
Ribbons


Also, I've noticed that the Reindeers don't seem to speed up delivery time. That's thrown a wrench into my optimisation...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 12, 2013, 09:19:41 pm
If you're interested SirPeebles, the only ones I have that you don't are:
A Christmas sack
Shepherd figures
A Robin decoration
Ribbons


Ah.  I'd tried bow and bag.

Also, I've tried gingerbread boy/man/cookie/house, nutcracker, and fruit cake.  But none of these were on the list :\
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 12, 2013, 09:30:13 pm
Also, I've noticed that the Reindeers don't seem to speed up delivery time. That's thrown a wrench into my optimisation...

Sure they do.

Edit:  Oh wait, you're right.  I guess I had forgotten to factor the reindeers into my optimisation calculation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 12, 2013, 09:49:09 pm
On the plus side songs appear to behave the same.

Currently it's pretty easy for me to optimise everything... all my Elves on making toys, all my machines on wrapping them, and even with deliveries, the Machines are still beating out the Elves by a big margin. I may have overinvested in them (Machines) :P...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 12, 2013, 09:50:36 pm
The reindeers speed up time between wishes also.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 12, 2013, 09:54:46 pm
Wishes? I haven't gotten those yet, as far as I can see. And it does speed up time between them, okay.

Edit: I'm getting close to putting up a Christmas Tree. Does that give wishes?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 12, 2013, 10:38:35 pm
Actually it looks like Deliveries and Sing-songs are affected by Reindeers. It's just the game runs slow when it's not the active tab.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 12, 2013, 11:18:02 pm
A partridge in a pear tree
Five gold rings


No sign of the others though
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 12, 2013, 11:27:23 pm
I found a list on Reddit. Between us, I think we got almost all of them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 13, 2013, 12:31:38 am
(http://i41.tinypic.com/23vb53o.png)

Only took around 4 and a bit hours total. You can see some of my ending multipliers there as well. I actually got pretty bad lack with the Wishes towards the end. I got lucky early and got the delivery multiplier crazy high, but then either got no present option in the wishes or got +5 (lowest possible with the max tree upgrade - I peeked at the code) Presents only, four times in a row, meaning I basically had 2 hours of wishes doing (almost) nothing for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on December 13, 2013, 09:21:45 am
This is so awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rjbtsX7twc&feature=c4-overview&list=UUTev4RNBiu6lqtx8z1e87fQ
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 13, 2013, 09:51:32 am
"I'm just a world sheet, please minimize me"

So cute.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 13, 2013, 10:11:46 am
That's all interesting, but...

                                                                                                 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 13, 2013, 11:23:27 am
http://weknowmemes.com/2013/12/international-guidelines-for-problem-solving/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 13, 2013, 01:32:46 pm
This is so awesome:

3:33 misspelled reparametrized, B+.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 13, 2013, 03:04:56 pm
I watched his other videos too, and my favorite is this one on neutrino oscillation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBxcC8zV46E
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on December 13, 2013, 05:04:26 pm
If it's a capella, why are there instruments in the video?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on December 13, 2013, 05:05:13 pm
If it's a capella, why are there instruments in the video?

Everything "a capella" has instruments now. How, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on December 13, 2013, 05:10:02 pm
Rock-a-pella is shaking its head in disappointment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 13, 2013, 05:23:12 pm
If it's a capella, why are there instruments in the video?

Everything "a capella" has instruments now. How, I have no idea.

False!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAMzAIH12yc
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 13, 2013, 06:04:14 pm
Back on topic, I just clicked my 3889th golden cookie, so I am officially more than halfway to Black cat's paw.  It took me exactly two months, so I'm on track to get the last shadow achievement by Valentine's Day...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on December 13, 2013, 08:10:56 pm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8#

The. Best. EVUR.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 13, 2013, 09:14:19 pm
That transition into Africa was most certainly among the best things ever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on December 13, 2013, 09:39:11 pm
That transition into Africa was most certainly among the best things ever.
And it's so hard! C major into 6 sharps. I'm in our school choir, and we did this for the school concert. The best part was, that after the "Dradle, dradle" part, I was the one who stopped the soloist, but instead of going to "on the twelfth day..." the guys went to the second verse of this song (the part that's solely about Tetris) and halfway through the director and ladies got "annoyed" then we went into Africa.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8#
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 13, 2013, 10:42:17 pm
If it's a capella, why are there instruments in the video?

Everything "a capella" has instruments now. How, I have no idea.

Nah, there's plenty out there that are actually a capella.  Pentatonix, for instance.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 14, 2013, 05:56:22 am
On a more random note:

Rolled 1d1000 : 721, total 721
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 14, 2013, 06:03:53 am
7+2*1  = 9, sqrt(9) = 3, half-life 3 confirmed!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 14, 2013, 10:09:40 am
7+2*1  = 9, sqrt(9) = 3, half-life 3 confirmed!

Sure, as if Half Life 3 will happen... ever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 14, 2013, 10:10:30 am
7+2*1  = 9, sqrt(9) = 3, half-life 3 confirmed!

7\21 = 3
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 14, 2013, 11:04:42 am
Think of the exponential equation this: At = e-0.231049t (it goes on longer, but that was all I wanted.  Let's find the half life for whatever this is that is decaying.

...

3.

Half Life 3 confirmed!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 14, 2013, 11:07:38 am
Amusing nit-pick:  Though Valve uses the Greek letter lambda for its Half-Life games, in physics, that symbol is used for the decay constant, not the half-life.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 14, 2013, 11:19:22 am
Amusing nit-pick:  Though Valve uses the Greek letter lambda for its Half-Life games, in physics, that symbol is used for the decay constant, not the half-life.

I always used lambda for half-life.  I usually used k for the decay constant.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 15, 2013, 10:13:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7KswC9wCSY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 15, 2013, 10:45:48 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7KswC9wCSY
Speaking of which...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmbRjuQTDmE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 15, 2013, 10:53:29 am
Speaking of which...

Wut.

Why did that need to be a video and also who hasn't seen that before?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 15, 2013, 11:10:40 am
(Illusions)

That was the most realistic cat illusion I've ever seen.  How the hell did he make it look like the cat was interacting with the other illusion?

Mind.  Blown.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 15, 2013, 11:13:31 am
Speaking of which...

Wut.

Why did that need to be a video and also who hasn't seen that before?
The colors are actually different.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 15, 2013, 04:43:11 pm
(http://raikoth.net/Discourse/transit.png)

If you like this, then you may like the rest (http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/08/17/fermats-last-stand-soundtrack-and-adventure-log/).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on December 16, 2013, 04:55:11 am
I wear my socks and underpants inside out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 16, 2013, 10:43:57 am
http://www.mikeholmesdraws.com/tagged/Mikenesses
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 16, 2013, 12:58:23 pm
http://watchout4snakes.com/wo4snakes/Random/RandomWord
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 16, 2013, 01:00:04 pm
If I were less lazy today I would write a script that grabs the random word and google image searches that word and then randomly selects a picture to display so that each click results in a totally random picture. Instead you got what you got.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 16, 2013, 06:30:35 pm
I found this pretty funny.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/76777/paul-rudd-has-been-playing-the-same-hilarious-joke-on-conan-o-brien-for-years
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 16, 2013, 06:53:10 pm
I found this pretty funny.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/76777/paul-rudd-has-been-playing-the-same-hilarious-joke-on-conan-o-brien-for-years

Wow.  That's... actually comedy gold.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 16, 2013, 06:53:41 pm
So, when I play dominion, I usually put cards into a trash pile, but since I consider myself a serious gamer, I'm wondering whether this approach is the one I should be taking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36)

Could anyone give me any advice?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 16, 2013, 06:56:32 pm
So, when I play dominion, I usually put cards into a trash pile, but since I consider myself a serious gamer, I'm wondering whether this approach is the one I should be taking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36)

Could anyone give me any advice?

I prefer this method:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5le9sYdYkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5le9sYdYkM)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on December 16, 2013, 07:07:15 pm
So, when I play dominion, I usually put cards into a trash pile, but since I consider myself a serious gamer, I'm wondering whether this approach is the one I should be taking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36)

Could anyone give me any advice?

The video's long... what's this about?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 16, 2013, 07:10:18 pm
So, when I play dominion, I usually put cards into a trash pile, but since I consider myself a serious gamer, I'm wondering whether this approach is the one I should be taking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5tVoxblETY#t=36)

Could anyone give me any advice?

The video's long... what's this about?

I put a timestamp in to the relevant section (about 20 seconds long). If that doesn't work it's from about 35 seconds in.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 16, 2013, 07:50:16 pm
Started looking at houses again this weekend...awful

One of them had chunks missing out of the plaster, and the bedroom had a massive sagging ceiling with a crack down the middle!!
What, did the agent not think we would notice that

"Oh, dont worry about that, that was a previous problem that has been sorted"
"A) I AM going to worry about that, and B) It doesnt look like its been sorted!


Then went to see a second, different agent, was a nice place right where I wanted. As we were leaving the agent says "Oh, they will apparently need to evict the tennant though...that will take 6 months to a year"
....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 16, 2013, 07:57:56 pm
Then went to see a second, different agent, was a nice place right where I wanted. As we were leaving the agent says "Oh, they will apparently need to evict the tennant though...that will take 6 months to a year"
....

Aww, but I liked Tennant as the Doctor :(.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 17, 2013, 04:54:56 am
Then went to see a second, different agent, was a nice place right where I wanted. As we were leaving the agent says "Oh, they will apparently need to evict the tennant though...that will take 6 months to a year"
....

Aww, but I liked Tennant as the Doctor :(.

That's what why I took him in in the first place, but it's always nothing but excuses: "I swear I'll have paid you by last week."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 17, 2013, 07:49:29 am
Then went to see a second, different agent, was a nice place right where I wanted. As we were leaving the agent says "Oh, they will apparently need to evict the tennant though...that will take 6 months to a year"
....

Aww, but I liked Tennant as the Doctor :(.

That's what why I took him in in the first place, but it's always nothing but excuses: "I swear I'll have paid you by last week."

But I paid you next year for last month.
You are probably not renewing it because of the time dilation effects of the time war, take it up with the daleks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 17, 2013, 09:53:55 am
Started looking at houses again this weekend...awful

One of them had chunks missing out of the plaster, and the bedroom had a massive sagging ceiling with a crack down the middle!!
What, did the agent not think we would notice that

"Oh, dont worry about that, that was a previous problem that has been sorted"
"A) I AM going to worry about that, and B) It doesnt look like its been sorted!


Then went to see a second, different agent, was a nice place right where I wanted. As we were leaving the agent says "Oh, they will apparently need to evict the tennant though...that will take 6 months to a year"
....

 :o

Is this partly a result of the price range and locations you are giving the agent?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 17, 2013, 12:51:49 pm
Via @wilw with a hat tip to @paulandstorm, good reasons never to share your passwords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfg4p031os
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 17, 2013, 01:45:09 pm
Started looking at houses again this weekend...awful

One of them had chunks missing out of the plaster, and the bedroom had a massive sagging ceiling with a crack down the middle!!
What, did the agent not think we would notice that

"Oh, dont worry about that, that was a previous problem that has been sorted"
"A) I AM going to worry about that, and B) It doesnt look like its been sorted!


Then went to see a second, different agent, was a nice place right where I wanted. As we were leaving the agent says "Oh, they will apparently need to evict the tennant though...that will take 6 months to a year"
....

 :o

Is this partly a result of the price range and locations you are giving the agent?

No, well, partly.
There are decent houses out there for my budget and location, but unfortunately they go so so quickly generally anything good gets an offer within a week. The house I was going to buy was excellent and within budget.

Whats left is the crap that has been there for months that they can't shift (For reasons such as stated above), so they show you the photos of the good parts of the house and then when you get there.....its awful.
In the vain hope that I dont know, you fall in love with the rotting walls and dead dogs outside.

Basically, Estate agents are useless wankers who do not care about anything. Especially at the moment where houses are pretty much selling themselves and it doesnt take any skill on thier part to find buyers

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 17, 2013, 02:06:19 pm
Started looking at houses again this weekend...awful

One of them had chunks missing out of the plaster, and the bedroom had a massive sagging ceiling with a crack down the middle!!
What, did the agent not think we would notice that

"Oh, dont worry about that, that was a previous problem that has been sorted"
"A) I AM going to worry about that, and B) It doesnt look like its been sorted!


Then went to see a second, different agent, was a nice place right where I wanted. As we were leaving the agent says "Oh, they will apparently need to evict the tennant though...that will take 6 months to a year"
....

 :o

Is this partly a result of the price range and locations you are giving the agent?

No, well, partly.
There are decent houses out there for my budget and location, but unfortunately they go so so quickly generally anything good gets an offer within a week. The house I was going to buy was excellent and within budget.

Whats left is the crap that has been there for months that they can't shift (For reasons such as stated above), so they show you the photos of the good parts of the house and then when you get there.....its awful.
In the vain hope that I dont know, you fall in love with the rotting walls and dead dogs outside.

Basically, Estate agents are useless wankers who do not care about anything. Especially at the moment where houses are pretty much selling themselves and it doesnt take any skill on thier part to find buyers

That's too bad. Good luck.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on December 17, 2013, 11:00:42 pm
Hands down my favorite thing from The Onion. (http://www.theonion.com/video/the-onions-tips-for-decorating-a-christmas-tree,34811/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on December 17, 2013, 11:03:39 pm
My favorite thing from the onion: http://www.theonion.com/articles/mythbusters-team-struck-down-by-zeus,5091/

Or maybe this one: http://www.theonion.com/articles/fucking-yankees-reports-nation,2257/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on December 19, 2013, 01:26:17 pm
Some real gems in here: http://distractify.com/fun/fails/test-answers-that-are-totally-wrong-but-still-genius/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 19, 2013, 01:34:42 pm
I saw that the other day, good stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 19, 2013, 01:38:08 pm
Some real gems in here: http://distractify.com/fun/fails/test-answers-that-are-totally-wrong-but-still-genius/

I love how #8 is marked correct.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on December 19, 2013, 01:59:37 pm
Some real gems in here: http://distractify.com/fun/fails/test-answers-that-are-totally-wrong-but-still-genius/

This is currently slashdotted.  I had no idea f.DS had that kind of reach.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 19, 2013, 02:03:01 pm
Some real gems in here: http://distractify.com/fun/fails/test-answers-that-are-totally-wrong-but-still-genius/

I love how #8 is marked correct.

I believe the red checkmark means that it was counted incorrect.

Granted, it's been a long time since I was in school, but I remember if an answer was marked, it was marked wrong. Hard to tell how this teacher grades without seeing the rest of the test.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on December 19, 2013, 02:18:20 pm
I've never heard of checkmrks indictaing that something is wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 19, 2013, 02:24:57 pm
This is possibly why kids today are so stupid!!!
A tick means wrong!

Well, that and fizzy drinks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 19, 2013, 03:00:29 pm
I've never heard of checkmrks indictaing that something is wrong.

Depends on the teacher. It may also be a cultural thing, but I don't know enough of teachers in other countries to say otherwise. Like I said, it's pretty obvious which questions are wrong by how your teacher marks them. Just viewing a single question with no knowledge of the teacher's style isn't enough to tell you if the red checkmark is supposed to be right or wrong.

Though, one thing that is nearly universal is that teachers tend to not mark correct answers, so there's that.


But I think it's the comments that are slaying me. Why did I even read them?

There are hundreds of comments devoted to whether or not the teacher was wrong in responding to #1. Some "gems":

"nope your wrong the number "pie" or "3.14...." doesnt end therefore it cant be divided at all"

"1, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, and 47.... all the prime numbers less than 50"

"So I can divide 1 by 2?? Wow... you must have been a super duper student..."

"Inanimate objects don't carry an apostrophe when dealing with ownership."

Plus a multitude of people saying the teacher sucked for not properly defining an even number while forgetting that this was likely a test for a freakin' first-grader who really does only need to know that a larger number can be determined to be odd or even by looking at the ones digit.


Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on December 19, 2013, 03:31:14 pm
Some real gems in here: http://distractify.com/fun/fails/test-answers-that-are-totally-wrong-but-still-genius/

I love how #8 is marked correct.

It has to be.  If it were marked incorrect, then the student would have taken a risk in claiming that answer was a risk.  Therefore, that answer was a risk, so it must be correct. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 19, 2013, 03:32:16 pm
Though, one thing that is nearly universal is that teachers tend to not mark correct answers, so there's that.

This was absolutely not the case when I was in school (based on personal experience at 4 or 5 schools in the UK).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 19, 2013, 03:33:55 pm
Though, one thing that is nearly universal is that teachers tend to not mark correct answers, so there's that.

This was absolutely not the case when I was in school (based on personal experience at 4 or 5 schools in the UK).

You'd have to have got a question right to know that surely....?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on December 19, 2013, 03:38:18 pm
I've never heard of checkmrks indictaing that something is wrong.

Depends on the teacher. It may also be a cultural thing, but I don't know enough of teachers in other countries to say otherwise. Like I said, it's pretty obvious which questions are wrong by how your teacher marks them. Just viewing a single question with no knowledge of the teacher's style isn't enough to tell you if the red checkmark is supposed to be right or wrong.

Though, one thing that is nearly universal is that teachers tend to not mark correct answers, so there's that.


But I think it's the comments that are slaying me. Why did I even read them?

There are hundreds of comments devoted to whether or not the teacher was wrong in responding to #1. Some "gems":

"nope your wrong the number "pie" or "3.14...." doesnt end therefore it cant be divided at all"

"1, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, and 47.... all the prime numbers less than 50"

"So I can divide 1 by 2?? Wow... you must have been a super duper student..."

"Inanimate objects don't carry an apostrophe when dealing with ownership."

Plus a multitude of people saying the teacher sucked for not properly defining an even number while forgetting that this was likely a test for a freakin' first-grader who really does only need to know that a larger number can be determined to be odd or even by looking at the ones digit.


Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

Hands down best comment in the thread:

Quote
Tara Paisley 0 is not divisible by 2. If you have nothing you cannot half it, it is simple common sense. However, even as i'm saying this I know somebody will most likely comment back, but if we were actually children looking at these questions without trying to disprove every single person that was looking at them before us, or trying to find any way of making the answer incorrect do you honestly believe you would have come up with any of these fun carefree answers?
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Post by: Polk5440 on December 19, 2013, 04:11:07 pm

Though, one thing that is nearly universal is that teachers tend to not mark correct answers, so there's that.


I do! With a checkmark, even.
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Post by: Kuildeous on December 19, 2013, 04:29:49 pm
Okay, probably a cultural thing. In my experience, a question isn't marked unless it's wrong. Sometimes a teacher may provide an alternate answer to let the student know that there was more than one possibility.
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Post by: DStu on December 19, 2013, 04:33:35 pm
Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

I don't see what should be wrong with #7 anyway?
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Post by: Polk5440 on December 19, 2013, 04:45:51 pm
Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

I don't see what should be wrong with #7 anyway?

Yeah, #7 should totally be correct, as well. I mean, it's clear what the question should be, but that's not what it is.
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Post by: Watno on December 19, 2013, 04:51:10 pm
I'm pretty sure if I had read the question properly and noticed the messed up order, I would have assumed it was a trick question. I mean why even mention the order things happen in if it's not important?
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Post by: eHalcyon on December 19, 2013, 05:03:05 pm
My favourite is the one in Chinese.
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Post by: scott_pilgrim on December 19, 2013, 07:02:32 pm
Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

I don't see what should be wrong with #7 anyway?

Yeah, #7 should totally be correct, as well. I mean, it's clear what the question should be, but that's not what it is.

About a month ago I had an economics test, where one of the questions was something like "blah blah blah is less than which of the following? A. 1, B. 2, C. 3, D. 4".  I was about 95% sure that whatever it was was less than 1 (or whatever the actual numbers were, don't remember) so clearly that's what you were supposed to put, but I was really tempted to choose D since it was guaranteed to be technically correct (assuming at least one answer was correct).
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Post by: eHalcyon on December 19, 2013, 09:34:25 pm
Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

I don't see what should be wrong with #7 anyway?

Yeah, #7 should totally be correct, as well. I mean, it's clear what the question should be, but that's not what it is.

About a month ago I had an economics test, where one of the questions was something like "blah blah blah is less than which of the following? A. 1, B. 2, C. 3, D. 4".  I was about 95% sure that whatever it was was less than 1 (or whatever the actual numbers were, don't remember) so clearly that's what you were supposed to put, but I was really tempted to choose D since it was guaranteed to be technically correct (assuming at least one answer was correct).

I think MC tests usually tell you to choose the answer that is "most correct", to cover situations where it seems like there are no correct answers or, as in your scenario, multiple correct answers.  Of course, "most correct" is not necessarily well defined.
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Post by: liopoil on December 19, 2013, 09:39:05 pm
Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

I don't see what should be wrong with #7 anyway?

Yeah, #7 should totally be correct, as well. I mean, it's clear what the question should be, but that's not what it is.

About a month ago I had an economics test, where one of the questions was something like "blah blah blah is less than which of the following? A. 1, B. 2, C. 3, D. 4".  I was about 95% sure that whatever it was was less than 1 (or whatever the actual numbers were, don't remember) so clearly that's what you were supposed to put, but I was really tempted to choose D since it was guaranteed to be technically correct (assuming at least one answer was correct).

I think MC tests usually tell you to choose the answer that is "most correct", to cover situations where it seems like there are no correct answers or, as in your scenario, multiple correct answers.  Of course, "most correct" is not necessarily well defined.
but in this case all the answers are equally correct. you could argue that d is the "most correct" because blah blah blah is the more less than 4 than it is 3, 2, and 1.
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Post by: Kirian on December 19, 2013, 09:39:16 pm
Although, #7 could have been answered by a Dominion pro.

I don't see what should be wrong with #7 anyway?

Yeah, #7 should totally be correct, as well. I mean, it's clear what the question should be, but that's not what it is.

About a month ago I had an economics test, where one of the questions was something like "blah blah blah is less than which of the following? A. 1, B. 2, C. 3, D. 4".  I was about 95% sure that whatever it was was less than 1 (or whatever the actual numbers were, don't remember) so clearly that's what you were supposed to put, but I was really tempted to choose D since it was guaranteed to be technically correct (assuming at least one answer was correct).

I think MC tests usually tell you to choose the answer that is "most correct", to cover situations where it seems like there are no correct answers or, as in your scenario, multiple correct answers.  Of course, "most correct" is not necessarily well defined.

No good test writer leaves a multiple-choice question open to the possibility of more than one correct answer.  Unless of course the question is worded "Choose one or more of the following."
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Post by: eHalcyon on December 19, 2013, 09:41:47 pm
but in this case all the answers are equally correct. you could argue that d is the "most correct" because blah blah blah is the more less than 4 than it is 3, 2, and 1.

That's why I said it's not necessarily well defined.

No good test writer leaves a multiple-choice question open to the possibility of more than one correct answer.  Unless of course the question is worded "Choose one or more of the following."

Agreed, but there are plenty of bad test writers out there, no?
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Post by: Kirian on December 19, 2013, 10:50:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BipvGD-LCjU

Because this thread needs more a capella and more math jokes.

(This is quite old, of course)
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Post by: qmech on December 20, 2013, 03:45:49 am
Multiple choice is hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np98nEU6nCU
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Post by: SirPeebles on December 20, 2013, 11:38:19 am
Cookie clicker update
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Post by: Tables on December 20, 2013, 11:50:45 am
Cookie clicker update

Yay Christmas upgrades!
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Post by: SirPeebles on December 20, 2013, 01:49:20 pm
Popping a reindeer during an Elder Frenzy is awesome.  My base cps is about 3.3 trillion, and I got about 1.3 quintillion off that one reindeer.
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Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on December 20, 2013, 01:54:54 pm
Damn you people I had just gotten on the wagon!

*sigh* *clickclickclickclick*
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Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2013, 02:00:57 pm
I'm still waiting for that reindeer/Elder combo...
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Post by: SirPeebles on December 20, 2013, 02:03:58 pm
I'm still waiting for that reindeer/Elder combo...

I've been leaving cookies there until they are about to fade away before clicking, in hopes of getting an elder frenzy and reindeer to match up.
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Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2013, 02:19:14 pm
best idea...i always click asap...just can't break habits.
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Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2013, 02:23:10 pm
also, impressive catching up...i thought I was the far-and-away CPS leader here (a testament to my willingness to slash productivity for  insanely repetitive tasks), but you're right under me.  I'm not sure what I'll top out at as I reset this morning, but right now base is 3.6 trillion and I think I'm close to the slowdown phase.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 20, 2013, 02:26:53 pm
Yikes!  On second thought, the value of the reindeer appears to be fixed when it spawns.  I just clicked a cookie after the reindeer spawned, got an elder frenzy, but then only got the normal amount from the reindeer :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2013, 02:34:03 pm
hmmmm, any idea if the reindeer is based on your withered rate, or your non-withered rate?

Also, I just got my first chain that went up to 66Qa!  I'm not sure when I crossed that threshhold, because I haven't run in red-mode in fooorrreevvver.
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Post by: SirPeebles on December 20, 2013, 02:36:21 pm
hmmmm, any idea if the reindeer is based on your withered rate, or your non-withered rate?

Also, I just got my first chain that went up to 66Qa!  I'm not sure when I crossed that threshhold, because I haven't run in red-mode in fooorrreevvver.

Nothing ever uses the withered stat.  Clot halves it though.
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Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2013, 02:47:14 pm
got the elder-reindeer.  Day complete.  you know, except for all this grading.
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Post by: SirPeebles on December 20, 2013, 02:59:18 pm
got the elder-reindeer.  Day complete.  you know, except for all this grading.

Ugh, you had to remind me of the G word.  Sigh...
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Post by: SirPeebles on December 20, 2013, 03:06:22 pm
got the elder-reindeer.  Day complete.  you know, except for all this grading.

Good thing.  Reindeer just got nerfed hard.
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Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2013, 03:08:57 pm
whoa yea...sad days for reindeer.  i guess I could have not reloaded.  But whatev.
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Post by: ashersky on December 20, 2013, 04:59:41 pm
Does anyone like coffee?  My go to is Illy Espresso made in a Bialetti cafetteria.  The smell that escapes the vacuum-sealed can when you first pop the top is heavenly.
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Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 20, 2013, 05:02:40 pm
I work. So yes, I like coffee.
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Post by: shraeye on December 20, 2013, 05:02:45 pm
that fresh coffee smell is always the best.  I get whole beans in vacuum-sealed packages, and when you cut them open....geeeeeez.

Coffee is probably one o' my favorite things; currently we get from Roger's Family Company, the San Fran Bay Coffee label.  Make it with a french press.
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Post by: AHoppy on December 21, 2013, 09:11:32 am
that fresh coffee smell is always the best.  I get whole beans in vacuum-sealed packages, and when you cut them open....geeeeeez.

Coffee is probably one o' my favorite things; currently we get from Roger's Family Company, the San Fran Bay Coffee label.  Make it with a french press.
I've never really liked coffee, but I'm really into tea. Anyone really like tea? My favorite one is a white ginger pear that I got for Christmas last year... also, just plain silver needle Whits tea is really good too
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Post by: shraeye on December 21, 2013, 09:14:38 am
gotta try coffee.  Seriously.  And if you don't like it, try better coffee.  Get raerae to help.
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Post by: AHoppy on December 21, 2013, 09:22:14 am
gotta try coffee.  Seriously.  And if you don't like it, try better coffee.  Get raerae to help.
well, you gotta try tea. Seriously. And if you don't like it, try better tea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on December 21, 2013, 09:35:34 am
I like coffee. Not much enough that I drink it every day, not even every week. Not like some other people I know. I do love my tea, though. My favorite is Lapsang. It's seriously the best.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 21, 2013, 09:35:56 am
Anyone really like tea? My favorite one is a white ginger pear that I got for Christmas last year... also, just plain silver needle Whits tea is really good too
Me! My favorites are Lapsang Souchong for black tea, Honyama Sencha for green tea and Tian Shan Yin Hao for white tea. I haven't really gotten into other kinds of teas yet, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2013, 09:36:13 am
Tea
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 21, 2013, 09:39:26 am
I dislike both Coffee and Tea. Hot Chocolate is about the only hot drink I drink.
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Post by: AHoppy on December 21, 2013, 10:02:42 am
Harney and son's green hot cinnamon is delicious, but I also really like this green tea I got in France that has pop corn and puffed rice in it. Yeah, sounds strange, but it's really good. As far as black tea, I like Earl grey and some chestnut tea I got in Pittsburgh. But really, I like most teas
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Post by: Kirian on December 21, 2013, 10:07:58 am
I dislike both Coffee and Tea. Hot Chocolate is about the only hot drink I drink.

This.

I'll drink tea if I'm really sick.
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Post by: Eevee on December 21, 2013, 10:16:39 am
gotta try coffee.  Seriously.  And if you don't like it, try better coffee.  Get raerae to help.
Why though? Serious question, I've pretty much never tried coffee and it seems like a terrible
habit to learn.

I like pretty much any tea with honey, but that might be more telling about how I like honey.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 21, 2013, 10:20:42 am
gotta try coffee.  Seriously.  And if you don't like it, try better coffee.  Get raerae to help.
Why though? Serious question, I've pretty much never tried coffee and it seems like a terrible
habit to learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVE5iPMKLg
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 21, 2013, 10:24:12 am
The local convention I'm attending is having a Dominion tournament. Hooray!

"Depending on turnout, tournament matches with be anywhere from 3 to 6 players." :/
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Post by: Tables on December 21, 2013, 10:25:35 am
The local convention I'm attending is having a Dominion tournament. Hooray!

"Depending on turnout, tournament matches with be anywhere from 3 to 6 players." :/

Whelp.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 21, 2013, 11:10:32 am
The local convention I'm attending is having a Dominion tournament. Hooray!

"Depending on turnout, tournament matches with be anywhere from 3 to 6 players." :/
(http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/why-would-you-do-that.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on December 21, 2013, 01:28:47 pm
Limited copies of the game?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 21, 2013, 03:27:40 pm
I dislike both Coffee and Tea. Hot Chocolate is about the only hot drink I drink.

Me too.  I've tried both coffee and tea, and dislike them both.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 21, 2013, 03:31:57 pm
I dislike both Coffee and Tea. Hot Chocolate is about the only hot drink I drink.

Me too.  I've tried both coffee and tea, and dislike them both.
There are many different kinds of teas. Are you sure you dislike them all?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 21, 2013, 03:35:48 pm
I dislike both Coffee and Tea. Hot Chocolate is about the only hot drink I drink.

Me too.  I've tried both coffee and tea, and dislike them both.
There are many different kinds of teas. Are you sure you dislike them all?

All the types I've tried (and sniffed), I haven't liked.  They all seem to have some taste I don't like.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 21, 2013, 03:42:49 pm
I dislike both Coffee and Tea. Hot Chocolate is about the only hot drink I drink.

Me too.  I've tried both coffee and tea, and dislike them both.
There are many different kinds of teas. Are you sure you dislike them all?

All the types I've tried (and sniffed), I haven't liked.  They all seem to have some taste I don't like.
I mean, I might be way too much into teas, but I totally think that you should try at least any white tea, any gunpowder tea, any sencha or maccha, any African green tea, Lapsang Souchong and either Ceylon, Darjeeling or Keemun before deciding that you dislike tea. Also, make sure that they are properly prepared, and try adding milk to Ceylon and Darjeeling, and sugar or honey to all of these. Oh, and avoid Lipton at all costs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 21, 2013, 03:54:56 pm
I've been making a conscious effort to be less of a dick online recently. I find that it's very easy to rip apart words someone has written, but I've been trying to remember they represent someone else's thoughts, beliefs, ideas, things resulting from cat walking on keyboard, questions, problems or otherwise. And so rather than giving snarky or rude replies to dumb questions, ludicrous ideas or implausible beliefs I've been more careful about how I word things. And it's a little less fun, maybe, but I think it makes a positive difference.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 21, 2013, 04:02:52 pm
As I learn to accept and love others exactly where they are so I begin to accept and love myself exactly where I am.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 21, 2013, 04:04:27 pm
I've been making a conscious effort to be less of a dick online recently. I find that it's very easy to rip apart words someone has written, but I've been trying to remember they represent someone else's thoughts, beliefs, ideas, things resulting from cat walking on keyboard, questions, problems or otherwise. And so rather than giving snarky or rude replies to dumb questions, ludicrous ideas or implausible beliefs I've been more careful about how I word things. And it's a little less fun, maybe, but I think it makes a positive difference.

My dad read a book called The Anatomy of Peace, and it was saying that one of the biggest causes of problems between people is "objectifying", where we think of others as objects, instead of people, and how we will use that to justify our decisions against others.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 21, 2013, 04:05:05 pm
I love coffee but have no further interest in caffeine. Tea is boring except on occasion where I prefer bold and spicy. I am a huge fan of water and root beer, the real thing, not the high fructose artificial colored and flavored garbage. Chocolate is simply put, the best stuff on the planet. The less crap you add to the cocoa the better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 21, 2013, 04:40:21 pm
Black Tea. I like most black teas, most white teas, most oolongs. I dislike most green teas.

The biggest problem people who dislike tea have is they:
1) brewed green tea with water near boiling
2) brewed black tea with water that was NOT near/at boiling.
3) got within 10 feet of a microwave during any point of the brewing process.

My Grandma was British, so making black tea correctly for me consists of boiling water in a kettle, brewing it strong* in a tea pot and putting milk in the teacup BEFORE pouring the tea. One lump of sugar or a few drops of honey on special occasions.

The ritual of making tea is one of the best parts of tea.

* I've noticed that American branded pre-bagged teas are almost always portioned to brew weak tea. Which is strange for a country that likes our coffee strong....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2013, 06:27:34 pm


My Grandma was British, so making black tea correctly for me consists of boiling water in a kettle, brewing it strong* in a tea pot and putting milk in the teacup BEFORE pouring the tea. One lump of sugar or a few drops of honey on special occasions.


This isnt a british thing....in fact the opposite is that this is a British thing to argue about, which order

I had a poll round my team only a month ago and most preferred making the tea THEN putting the milk in
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Rabid on December 21, 2013, 06:39:41 pm
Tea made in a Mug > Milk After > adding milk reduces the brewing temperature.

Tea in a pot > Milk in Cup first
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Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2013, 06:40:44 pm
Tea made in a Mug > Milk After > adding milk reduces the brewing temperature.

Tea in a pot > Milk in Cup first

This is correct.
It also helps you get the colour right by adding the milk after
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on December 21, 2013, 07:01:12 pm
I dislike both Coffee and Tea. Hot Chocolate is about the only hot drink I drink.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 21, 2013, 07:02:48 pm
Everything is so much simpler if you just drink Chinese tea without milk.
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Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2013, 07:03:50 pm
Everything is so much simpler if you just drink Chinese tea without milk.

Pah, clearly wrong. We had to invade them to make sure the tea was done properly (oh and something something opium as well)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on December 21, 2013, 07:45:07 pm
* I've noticed that American branded pre-bagged teas are almost always portioned to brew weak tea. Which is strange for a country that likes our coffee strong....

I've been to America once. I had coffee. It was VERY watered down. Seriously. Come to Sweden and we'll show you how to make nice and strong coffee.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2013, 07:46:30 pm
Does anyone else wonder if Tables knows Chairs in real life?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on December 21, 2013, 07:47:49 pm
Topic intent: Every little random tidbit that doesn't deserve its own topic can be posted here.
Especially posts that don't warrant a lengthy discussion.

I'll start with: Tsunami Bomb - Take The Reigns would make a great song for Guitar Hero.

60 pages in and look where we are now!

* I've noticed that American branded pre-bagged teas are almost always portioned to brew weak tea. Which is strange for a country that likes our coffee strong....

I've been to America once. I had coffee. It was VERY watered down. Seriously. Come to Sweden and we'll show you how to make nice and strong coffee.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on December 21, 2013, 07:51:48 pm
I love coffee, tea, and hot chocolate, but I'm a bit particular.

I only like my coffee latte'd, macchiato'd, frappucino'd, or otherwise drowned in sugar and cream. I usually like my tea (green tea is my favorite) untainted, maybe a bit of honey at the most. No tea bags please.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2013, 07:58:57 pm
Topic intent: Every little random tidbit that doesn't deserve its own topic can be posted here.
Especially posts that don't warrant a lengthy discussion.

I'll start with: Tsunami Bomb - Take The Reigns would make a great song for Guitar Hero.

60 pages in and look where we are now!

* I've noticed that American branded pre-bagged teas are almost always portioned to brew weak tea. Which is strange for a country that likes our coffee strong....

I've been to America once. I had coffee. It was VERY watered down. Seriously. Come to Sweden and we'll show you how to make nice and strong coffee.

This is why i hate 'random discussion' threads, it sucks up all the other little threads.
Like the cookie cutter thing, its big enough to have its own thread.

This is a general discussion forum there should be no topic thats too little, if people don't think its worth commentating on it will soon drop off the page.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 21, 2013, 08:04:14 pm
Like the cookie cutter thing, its big enough to have its own thread.

How dare you insult Cookie Clicker by calling it "cookie cutter"...

We need to do something about this...

*calls an assassin*
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 21, 2013, 08:09:43 pm
Like the cookie cutter thing, its big enough to have its own thread.

How dare you insult Cookie Clicker by calling it "cookie cutter"...

We need to do something about this...

*calls an assassin*

You mean we weren't talking about WoW character builds?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 21, 2013, 08:14:16 pm
sudgy, exactly where did you call the assassin? There se
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 21, 2013, 08:35:52 pm
Does anyone else wonder if Tables knows Chairs in real life?

We (probably) don't. Chairs first post on this forum was a reply to me, I believe, which I assume is also where he got his name from.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 21, 2013, 10:51:09 pm
I only like my coffee latte'd, macchiato'd, frappucino'd, or otherwise drowned in sugar and cream.

You must not be getting served a macchiato but some starbucks, americo-bastardized lecherous incantation that has usurped the the name macchiato. There is no sugar nor cream in a macchiato.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on December 21, 2013, 10:58:24 pm
I only like my coffee latte'd, macchiato'd, frappucino'd, or otherwise drowned in sugar and cream.

You must not be getting served a macchiato but some starbucks, americo-bastardized lecherous incantation that has usurped the the name macchiato. There is no sugar nor cream in a macchiato.

*caramel macchiato'd. :P Or mocha'd.

I'm not a big fan of Starbucks, but I'm definitely only familiar with mainstream American coffee trends.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on December 21, 2013, 11:09:24 pm
There are a few Starbucks here in Oz now.  Pretty hilarious.

The Verismo is pretty good, though, I'll admit.  Better than the Keurig crap, not pretentious like a Nespresso.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on December 21, 2013, 11:10:00 pm
I only like my coffee latte'd, macchiato'd, frappucino'd, or otherwise drowned in sugar and cream.

You must not be getting served a macchiato but some starbucks, americo-bastardized lecherous incantation that has usurped the the name macchiato. There is no sugar nor cream in a macchiato.

*caramel macchiato'd. :P Or mocha'd.

I'm not a big fan of Starbucks, but I'm definitely only familiar with mainstream American coffee trends.

This is a video summary of American coffee trends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeTyXKanY_4
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 22, 2013, 08:57:55 am
28. Iced Coffee (unmoleste)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 22, 2013, 03:51:26 pm
Regarding whether it makes a difference whether milk is added to the cup before or after filling the cup with tea brewed in a pot... this discussion is what prompted one of the earliest "modern" statistical taste tests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_tasting_tea

A taste distinction could come from that adding relatively cold dairy to something hot tends to curdle the dairy a little. Adding brewed tea to milk "tempers" the milk.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 22, 2013, 04:05:27 pm
MY AT IS ON THE KEYBOARD AND I CN'T TYPE PROPERLY

Oh good he's off. For now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 22, 2013, 04:09:46 pm
Typing around a cat is a common problem here...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on December 23, 2013, 05:39:54 pm
Not sure if we have a riddle thread, but I just got asked this question on a job assessment:

A man has just finished painting his house and needs something. He goes to a hardware store and asks for help in finding what he needs. The clerk shows him where the objects are and tells him that they cost $1 each. The man says: "I'm taking 600, so here's $3." What did he buy?

I totally whiffed and am curious as to whether anyone else can solve it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on December 23, 2013, 05:41:30 pm
Uh, house number maybe? Like he needs $1/digit?

Edit: spoilers just in case
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 23, 2013, 05:43:52 pm
Uh, house number maybe? Like he needs $1/digit?

Edit: spoilers just in case

Yeah, this is it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 23, 2013, 05:44:15 pm
Uh, house number maybe? Like he needs $1/digit?

Edit: spoilers just in case

Yeah, this is it

OR, he could just be robbing the place
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on December 23, 2013, 05:48:56 pm
Darn, where were you guys when I was tkaing the test! :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 23, 2013, 05:52:43 pm
Darn, where were you guys when I was tkaing the test! :P

Second row back on the left

WalrusMcFishcakes was texting me the answers
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 23, 2013, 10:46:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/59Nmaub.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 23, 2013, 10:48:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/59Nmaub.gif)
the "Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 1" really makes this
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 24, 2013, 05:28:58 pm
I received Guilds for Christmas! Surprisingly enough, this time the translation is excellent and some things actually ended up better than in the original version IMO (of course, the Butcher, Baker and Candlestick Maker thing is totally lost in translation). For example, when I read the English card list, it was confusing that the expansion was called Guilds, but there was only one guild in it, the merchants'. The name of that card in Finnish is simply "Kilta" (Guild) - well, there are ten of them, makes perfect sense.

Also got the Seafarers expansion for Catan, Puerto Rico and some 2003 Yong Pin Hao "Yin Hao Tuo" pu'erh tea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on December 25, 2013, 02:40:20 pm
I personally got Pandemic, Power Grid, and Apples to Apples!

Sadly serious on that last one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on December 25, 2013, 05:05:42 pm
I got this game called Tsuro... I have no idea what it is. 

I personally got Pandemic, Power Grid, and Apples to Apples!

Sadly serious on that last one.

Y u no like apples to apples?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on December 25, 2013, 05:32:38 pm
tell me how tsuro is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 25, 2013, 05:43:06 pm
Pearl Drums just posted something absolutely awesome on Facebook:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/moshpit.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on December 25, 2013, 05:46:55 pm
Never played tsuro, but it looks awesome. abstract games are pretty cool. apples to apples on the other hand... doesn't count as a game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on December 25, 2013, 06:13:37 pm
I got Village and Agricola: Farmers of the moor.  Village looks very interesting and hoping that Farmers of the Moor makes Agricola even more fun!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 25, 2013, 06:17:55 pm
Tsuro is a great filler -- rules are super simple, but there's definitely tactical depth once you know how things go and what you can reasonably expect.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on December 25, 2013, 07:21:29 pm
Vote: Yes on Apples to Apples
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on December 25, 2013, 07:22:57 pm
Is Tsuro the path making game? It's a nice fun quick game, although I wouldn't want to play it to any degree of competitiveness.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 26, 2013, 10:39:47 am
Is Tsuro the path making game? It's a nice fun quick game, although I wouldn't want to play it to any degree of competitiveness.

I have to agree on the level of competitiveness. There is a lot happening that is out of your hands, especially with more players. My strategy is mostly to stay away from others so they can't move me, and I may actually choose my tile based on how flexible I can be on my next turn with the tiles I have left in my hand.

Apples to Apples is a party game, and it is fine as long as it's treated like such. I prefer Cards Against Humanity, but that game is not appropriate for all party settings.

Although, for party games, I like games like Kill the Overlord or Nanuk.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 26, 2013, 10:46:54 am
A2A is perfectly fine for a family friendly party game. It scales well and provides genuine entertainment and rewards those who can play the meta game of knowing the reader.

However, the real game of this ilk is Cards Against Humanity.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on December 26, 2013, 12:41:07 pm
Apples to Apples is OK like once a year. But otherwise I'd rather do something more fun like playing The Resistance, or Pandemic solo, or vacuuming.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on December 26, 2013, 02:45:10 pm
I find Apples to Apples frustrating because at any given time, out of the seven cards in my hand, I tend to have only 2-3 such that I actually know what they are.  It's a like an exciting, rare event when I actually get to play a card from my hand that at least kind of matches the description, I feel like the majority of rounds are me just throwing celebrities I haven't heard of into the pile and hoping they happen to match the description.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on December 26, 2013, 07:36:19 pm
tell me how tsuro is.
Its a really fun, quick, and simple game. Easy to learn, too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on December 26, 2013, 09:56:02 pm
tell me how tsuro is.
Its a really fun, quick, and simple game. Easy to learn, too.

Addictive when you first learn it, too. I only got to play it three/four times in my only session, and that wasn't enough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 26, 2013, 10:35:39 pm
Although, for party games, I like games like Kill the Overlord or Nanuk.

Wait, someone else knows about Kill the Overlord? I'm friends with the publisher; I was the demo monkey at GenCon 2012.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 26, 2013, 10:42:36 pm
Cards Against Humanity.
I've been playing a lot of Cards Against Megukas online lately. It's super fun. I imagine you would have to be pretty drunk to be able to enjoy it with people you actually know, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 27, 2013, 08:17:51 am
Although, for party games, I like games like Kill the Overlord or Nanuk.

Wait, someone else knows about Kill the Overlord? I'm friends with the publisher; I was the demo monkey at GenCon 2012.

You worked that booth and Greater Than Games? Busy man.

I forget if I picked it up at Origins or GenCon. Some friends of mine through Heroes of Rokugan demoed it and all bought a box. When they bumped into us in the dealer hall, they told us to go demo. The game was fun, and the price was right, so we bought a box. I haven't played it that often, and sadly I haven't played it with more than five players. It has a Citadels feel to it but with more fluff (and incredibly short rounds).

I'm not a fan of anime-style illustrations, but they are nicely done on the character cards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 27, 2013, 04:48:01 pm
I find Apples to Apples frustrating because at any given time, out of the seven cards in my hand, I tend to have only 2-3 such that I actually know what they are.  It's a like an exciting, rare event when I actually get to play a card from my hand that at least kind of matches the description, I feel like the majority of rounds are me just throwing celebrities I haven't heard of into the pile and hoping they happen to match the description.

Interesting, I don't know celebrity names, either. I remember winning a game with the word belt-buckle. The question was something along the lines of "a few of my favorite things". I was the only person in the crowd who knew they had a belt buckle fetish and of course the only one with that card in my hand. Surely you know what a belt-buckle is.

The real joy was the confused looks when the card was revealed and the outright consternation when it was selected as the winning submission.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on December 27, 2013, 05:03:03 pm
I find Apples to Apples frustrating because at any given time, out of the seven cards in my hand, I tend to have only 2-3 such that I actually know what they are.  It's a like an exciting, rare event when I actually get to play a card from my hand that at least kind of matches the description, I feel like the majority of rounds are me just throwing celebrities I haven't heard of into the pile and hoping they happen to match the description.

Interesting, I don't know celebrity names, either. I remember winning a game with the word belt-buckle. The question was something along the lines of "a few of my favorite things". I was the only person in the crowd who knew they had a belt buckle fetish and of course the only one with that card in my hand. Surely you know what a belt-buckle is.

Yeah, my post was a bit of an exaggeration.  The problem is that I don't like playing cards that I don't know what they are, so over time my hand fills up with people I haven't heard of (I'm also a little scared of playing a card that I don't know that happens to offend someone), and then I'm stuck playing from only a few cards left that I know.  I don't think Apples to Apples is an awful game, and I've certainly had some fun times with it, it's just that sometimes it drags on for several rounds without me feeling like I can contribute anything.

Is there maybe a rule I haven't heard of about discarding and drawing seven new cards?  If that doesn't exist it definitely should.  I may suggest that next time I play.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 27, 2013, 05:46:58 pm
Interesting, I don't know celebrity names, either. I remember winning a game with the word belt-buckle. The question was something along the lines of "a few of my favorite things". I was the only person in the crowd who knew they had a belt buckle fetish and of course the only one with that card in my hand. Surely you know what a belt-buckle is.

If you know someone with a belt-buckle fetish, then I'm not entirely certain what a belt-buckle is, nor do I want to check out urban dictionary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on December 27, 2013, 10:22:39 pm
Is there maybe a rule I haven't heard of about discarding and drawing seven new cards?  If that doesn't exist it definitely should.  I may suggest that next time I play.

Yeah, you give up 1 victory card to trade out cards in your hand.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 28, 2013, 06:27:53 am
I find Apples to Apples frustrating because at any given time, out of the seven cards in my hand, I tend to have only 2-3 such that I actually know what they are.  It's a like an exciting, rare event when I actually get to play a card from my hand that at least kind of matches the description, I feel like the majority of rounds are me just throwing celebrities I haven't heard of into the pile and hoping they happen to match the description.

Interesting, I don't know celebrity names, either. I remember winning a game with the word belt-buckle. The question was something along the lines of "a few of my favorite things". I was the only person in the crowd who knew they had a belt buckle fetish and of course the only one with that card in my hand. Surely you know what a belt-buckle is.

Yeah, my post was a bit of an exaggeration.  The problem is that I don't like playing cards that I don't know what they are, so over time my hand fills up with people I haven't heard of (I'm also a little scared of playing a card that I don't know that happens to offend someone), and then I'm stuck playing from only a few cards left that I know.  I don't think Apples to Apples is an awful game, and I've certainly had some fun times with it, it's just that sometimes it drags on for several rounds without me feeling like I can contribute anything.

Is there maybe a rule I haven't heard of about discarding and drawing seven new cards?  If that doesn't exist it definitely should.  I may suggest that next time I play.

I also do not know celebrities or certain people from history. I have no problems chucking cards in at random. The problem I have is judging who the most Suave is out of 6 people I have never heard of.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 28, 2013, 09:33:11 am
You worked that booth and Greater Than Games? Busy man.

Greater Than Games was 2013, for the record. I'm only human! ._.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 30, 2013, 01:53:55 am
I finally figured out how to use the mouse in programs a couple days ago...

And, two days later, I completely programmed FreeCell.  Yippee.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 30, 2013, 10:05:17 am
Does anyone else find the forum structure at BGG confusing?

I have an account, but I almost never use it.  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 30, 2013, 12:24:47 pm
I also do not know celebrities or certain people from history. I have no problems chucking cards in at random. The problem I have is judging who the most Suave is out of 6 people I have never heard of.

Well, at least it's only slightly embarrassing if you admit to not knowing who a particular celebrity is (and if that celebrity is a Kardashian, then people may actually respect you more).

But contrast that to Cards Against Humanity when you have to explain to someone what smegma or bukkake is.

Come to think of it, that reason alone is why CAH is a far better "game."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 30, 2013, 01:10:38 pm
I remember one time it was "Virtuous" in Apples to Apples, and he threw in Fidel Castro because he didn't know who he was.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on December 30, 2013, 01:53:49 pm
I had a great joke. The adjective was "Sultry."

Unfortunately, the person making the decision was the type to not know who many historical figures were or even what adjectives were. I took a gamble because I figure a good joke would be appreciated by the rest of the crowd. I played my Joan of Arc card. I think that card did end up winning by sheer luck.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on December 30, 2013, 02:22:21 pm
I remember one time it was "Virtuous" in Apples to Apples, and he threw in Fidel Castro because he didn't know who he was.

Those who know nothing of history are doomed to repeat it...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 30, 2013, 02:31:55 pm
I remember one time it was "Virtuous" in Apples to Apples, and he threw in Fidel Castro because he didn't know who he was.

Those who know nothing of history are doomed to repeat it...

Cool!
I can no longer remember my 21st birthday...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on December 30, 2013, 04:54:48 pm
Bit late but this was my favourite christmas song this year!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNvZqpa-7Q
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on December 30, 2013, 05:24:09 pm
This might be the first time I actually miss Isotropic text mode. I always preferred seeing the images, but now that I have some downtime at work (it's slow at the holidays), I wish I had access to it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 31, 2013, 06:30:30 pm
Happy new year!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on December 31, 2013, 06:31:41 pm
Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on December 31, 2013, 08:06:13 pm
Happy new year!

Happy New Year everyone!

It's New Years Eve...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on December 31, 2013, 09:56:24 pm
Happy new year!

Happy New Year everyone!

It's New Years Eve...
It's been 2014 for ages, there even are HD videos of the midnight fireworks in YouTube already.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on January 01, 2014, 02:54:42 pm
I find Apples to Apples frustrating because at any given time, out of the seven cards in my hand, I tend to have only 2-3 such that I actually know what they are.  It's a like an exciting, rare event when I actually get to play a card from my hand that at least kind of matches the description, I feel like the majority of rounds are me just throwing celebrities I haven't heard of into the pile and hoping they happen to match the description.

Interesting, I don't know celebrity names, either. I remember winning a game with the word belt-buckle. The question was something along the lines of "a few of my favorite things". I was the only person in the crowd who knew they had a belt buckle fetish and of course the only one with that card in my hand. Surely you know what a belt-buckle is.

Yeah, my post was a bit of an exaggeration.  The problem is that I don't like playing cards that I don't know what they are, so over time my hand fills up with people I haven't heard of (I'm also a little scared of playing a card that I don't know that happens to offend someone), and then I'm stuck playing from only a few cards left that I know.  I don't think Apples to Apples is an awful game, and I've certainly had some fun times with it, it's just that sometimes it drags on for several rounds without me feeling like I can contribute anything.

Is there maybe a rule I haven't heard of about discarding and drawing seven new cards?  If that doesn't exist it definitely should.  I may suggest that next time I play.

I also do not know celebrities or certain people from history. I have no problems chucking cards in at random. The problem I have is judging who the most Suave is out of 6 people I have never heard of.

Agreed with all of the above.  Too much hangs on having appropriate cards in hand, and hands invariably fill up with outdated references to people and events.  Maybe newer versions of the game are more caught up.

When I play A2A or CAH with friends, we introduce a Random player.  I think it was a suggested variant with the CAH rules.  Basically, you have an extra player who submits cards that are just drawn blind from the deck.  If nobody claims to be the winner (honour system!) then Rando got it.  If Rando somehow wins, then shame on everyone.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on January 01, 2014, 03:04:00 pm
As far as party games go, Times Up is clearly the best ever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 01, 2014, 09:25:41 pm
Got to play IRL Dominion tonight which is a rare treat for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 01, 2014, 11:25:59 pm
Sissy's Magical Ponycorn Adventure (http://www.ponycorns.com/game.html)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on January 02, 2014, 01:12:20 am
Sissy's Magical Ponycorn Adventure (http://www.ponycorns.com/game.html)

I am entirely uncertain what to say about this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on January 02, 2014, 01:50:03 am
I was just thinking that now I've been playing Goko a bit it's nice to see names on the leaderboard that I recognise. Then I noticed I'm now ahead of Eevee! Hooray! :)

I acknowledge that Eevee is significantly better at Dominion than I am.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on January 02, 2014, 11:35:55 am
I have a 10€ amazon voucher that expires today and can't figure out what to spend it on. It's not valid for stuff not sold by amazon.de directly or books. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 02, 2014, 11:52:39 am
I have a 10€ amazon voucher that expires today and can't figure out what to spend it on. It's not valid for stuff not sold by amazon.de directly or books. Any suggestions?

Consumables such as toilet paper, cashews, printer paper or anything you know you're for sure going to use up and have to buy at the store anyhow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 02, 2014, 11:53:20 am
Guitar strings or screen cleaners.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 02, 2014, 12:03:39 pm
This one is pretty cool.  See what you can create starting from the four elements.  I don't appear to be very good at it.

Little Alchemy (http://littlealchemy.com/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on January 02, 2014, 12:23:49 pm
I decided to buy Dungeon Roll.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on January 02, 2014, 01:10:24 pm
Sissy's Magical Ponycorn Adventure (http://www.ponycorns.com/game.html)

I cant believe I just went through that whole thing.  Thankfully you can click through the dialogue
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 02, 2014, 01:42:53 pm
Sissy's Magical Ponycorn Adventure (http://www.ponycorns.com/game.html)

I cant believe I just went through that whole thing.  Thankfully you can click through the dialogue

Why would you play that game if not for the dialogue?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on January 02, 2014, 01:47:06 pm
Sissy's Magical Ponycorn Adventure (http://www.ponycorns.com/game.html)

I cant believe I just went through that whole thing.  Thankfully you can click through the dialogue

Why would you play that game if not for the dialogue?

I read the dialogue, I just didn't want to wait to listen to the narrator read what is already written out
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 02, 2014, 02:05:28 pm
I enjoyed the ponycorn game. That had to be an awesome thing to do together with your 5yo daughter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on January 02, 2014, 06:28:08 pm
This one is pretty cool.  See what you can create starting from the four elements.  I don't appear to be very good at it.

Little Alchemy (http://littlealchemy.com/)

This game is either a rip-off of Doodle God, or vice versa. Either way, I think I prefer Doodle God...I played it originally on my iPhone.

http://www.kongregate.com/games/badim/doodle-god

There's also Doodle Devil, which is the same thing but with a more sinful angle...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 02, 2014, 06:40:17 pm
Doodle God is awesome
Doodle Devil is Meh

On the subject of Meh.....just watch Hunger Games 1.....meh, i've seen better survival/Arena films starring JCVD than that, just with less production values.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 02, 2014, 07:24:38 pm
This one is pretty cool.  See what you can create starting from the four elements.  I don't appear to be very good at it.

Little Alchemy (http://littlealchemy.com/)

This game is either a rip-off of Doodle God, or vice versa. Either way, I think I prefer Doodle God...I played it originally on my iPhone.

http://www.kongregate.com/games/badim/doodle-god

There's also Doodle Devil, which is the same thing but with a more sinful angle...

You're right.  I just switched over to playing doodle god.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 03, 2014, 09:52:18 am
On the subject of Meh.....just watch Hunger Games 1.....meh, i've seen better survival/Arena films starring JCVD than that, just with less production values.

I found Battle Royale to be interesting, though it has an even more ludicrous premise than Hunger Games. I found it more interesting just because the kids all knew each other (or of each other) beforehand so there was quite a bit of interaction between the participants.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 03, 2014, 11:11:12 am
I'm up to 210 on Little Alchemy and it has gotten exponentially more time consuming to find new combinations as each new creation must be tried with every previous one including itself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 03, 2014, 12:03:49 pm
When it gets this cold in the morning, I spend the last 2 minutes of my commute, breathing hard onto my badge. That way when I scan my badge at the gate, I don't freeze my nipple off when I slide it into my shirt pocket.

I don't know if there's a support group for me. I don't know if I'm the only person who does that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 03, 2014, 12:08:33 pm
When it gets this cold in the morning, I spend the last 2 minutes of my commute, breathing hard onto my badge. That way when I scan my badge at the gate, I don't freeze my nipple off when I slide it into my shirt pocket.

I don't know if there's a support group for me. I don't know if I'm the only person who does that.

Buy a thicker shirt?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 03, 2014, 12:11:16 pm
On the subject of Meh.....just watch Hunger Games 1.....meh, i've seen better survival/Arena films starring JCVD than that, just with less production values.

I found Battle Royale to be interesting, though it has an even more ludicrous premise than Hunger Games. I found it more interesting just because the kids all knew each other (or of each other) beforehand so there was quite a bit of interaction between the participants.

Its not really the premise, just the dullness of it all. It offers nothing really new, and no real surprises. I know its a kids film, but there's nothing really gripping there.

I was expecting a little bit more to be honest
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on January 03, 2014, 01:31:57 pm
Swiss tournaments make me think of Swiss cheese and that makes me hungry.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on January 03, 2014, 08:37:59 pm
Swiss tournaments make me think of Swiss cheese and that makes me hungry.
Swiss cheese makes me think of Swiss cymbals and that makes me want to play the drums.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 03, 2014, 08:58:37 pm
Swiss anything makes me think of the alps and I get shivery inside.

400 of 450 combinations found in Little Alchemy today. I'm really tired of it but I feel compelled to complete it. There's a ton of obvious ones that didn't work. Yeah, I know you can make suggestions...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 04, 2014, 09:33:50 am
Wow, so I spent the better part of a day in my life to complete Little alchemy and there is no sort of congratulatory ending. I mean, it indicates 450/450 but otherwise the game continues as if nothing happened there. Very disappointing. I really pressed through those last 50 just for some sort of ending besides that. WTF is wrong with game designers these days?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on January 04, 2014, 09:50:29 am
Wow, so I spent the better part of a day in my life to complete Little alchemy and there is no sort of congratulatory ending. I mean, it indicates 450/450 but otherwise the game continues as if nothing happened there. Very disappointing. I really pressed through those last 50 just for some sort of ending besides that. WTF is wrong with game designers these days?
They can add new elements (it's even possible to suggest for them), so the game isn't necessarily over yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on January 04, 2014, 01:35:05 pm
Wow, so I spent the better part of a day in my life to complete Little alchemy and there is no sort of congratulatory ending. I mean, it indicates 450/450 but otherwise the game continues as if nothing happened there. Very disappointing. I really pressed through those last 50 just for some sort of ending besides that. WTF is wrong with game designers these days?

If you combine all 450 together, you create the hidden final element, 'Regret'
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 04, 2014, 07:55:16 pm
Wow, so I spent the better part of a day in my life to complete Little alchemy and there is no sort of congratulatory ending. I mean, it indicates 450/450 but otherwise the game continues as if nothing happened there. Very disappointing. I really pressed through those last 50 just for some sort of ending besides that. WTF is wrong with game designers these days?

Now I feel guilty for enabling you to waste a day of your life.

P.S.
100 quintillion cookies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 04, 2014, 08:49:08 pm
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18vuf724v9cwtgif/ku-medium.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 04, 2014, 09:48:30 pm
Wow, so I spent the better part of a day in my life to complete Little alchemy and there is no sort of congratulatory ending. I mean, it indicates 450/450 but otherwise the game continues as if nothing happened there. Very disappointing. I really pressed through those last 50 just for some sort of ending besides that. WTF is wrong with game designers these days?

Now I feel guilty for enabling you to waste a day of your life.

P.S.
100 quintillion cookies.

For penance make sure when you write a game you give the player some milestone congratulations even if the overall game is open-ended.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 05, 2014, 08:52:50 am
Wow, so I spent the better part of a day in my life to complete Little alchemy and there is no sort of congratulatory ending. I mean, it indicates 450/450 but otherwise the game continues as if nothing happened there. Very disappointing. I really pressed through those last 50 just for some sort of ending besides that. WTF is wrong with game designers these days?

Now I feel guilty for enabling you to waste a day of your life.

P.S.
100 quintillion cookies.

For penance make sure when you write a game you give the player some milestone congratulations even if the overall game is open-ended.

The only game I've ever programmed was for my TI-82 calculator back in the 90s.  It had no milestone congratulations.  I wrote it because I didn't have one of those cables to download games.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 05, 2014, 12:53:51 pm
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18vuf724v9cwtgif/ku-medium.gif)

As the husband of a severe arachnophobe, I can appreciate this, but the placement of the guy's mouth made me think he was wearing a mask. I was wondering why the guy coming out of the shower had to be a surgeon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 05, 2014, 12:54:44 pm
After watching the Christmas special of Grimm, I have say that there needs to be some more motherfucking Krampus on television.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on January 05, 2014, 01:20:56 pm
After watching the Christmas special of Grimm, I have say that there needs to be some more motherfucking Krampus on television.

American Dad paid homage.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 05, 2014, 01:36:27 pm
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18vuf724v9cwtgif/ku-medium.gif)

As the husband of a severe arachnophobe, I can appreciate this, but the placement of the guy's mouth made me think he was wearing a mask. I was wondering why the guy coming out of the shower had to be a surgeon.

Canadian
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on January 05, 2014, 08:32:27 pm
This one is pretty cool.  See what you can create starting from the four elements.  I don't appear to be very good at it.

Little Alchemy (http://littlealchemy.com/)

This game is either a rip-off of Doodle God, or vice versa. Either way, I think I prefer Doodle God...I played it originally on my iPhone.

http://www.kongregate.com/games/badim/doodle-god

There's also Doodle Devil, which is the same thing but with a more sinful angle...

You're right.  I just switched over to playing doodle god.

Not the same, but it reminds me of other old flash games I played long ago.  Have you ever gone through the various Grow games?

http://www.eyezmaze.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 06, 2014, 12:45:36 pm
This one is pretty cool.  See what you can create starting from the four elements.  I don't appear to be very good at it.

Little Alchemy (http://littlealchemy.com/)

This game is either a rip-off of Doodle God, or vice versa. Either way, I think I prefer Doodle God...I played it originally on my iPhone.

http://www.kongregate.com/games/badim/doodle-god

There's also Doodle Devil, which is the same thing but with a more sinful angle...

You're right.  I just switched over to playing doodle god.

Not the same, but it reminds me of other old flash games I played long ago.  Have you ever gone through the various Grow games?

http://www.eyezmaze.com/

I have and they were great
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 06, 2014, 06:11:28 pm

So, I have found, if when I send an email enquiring about events im organising for my friends, if I subtly change my email signiture to say:

Quote
Thanks,

Ozle

Ozle Events

Not only do I tend to get really fast responses, but all kinds of better offers.

Just organised my friends birthday party at a Casino, saw the stated packed they had on offer, sent them an email with that signature (nothing in the body of the email about Ozle events at all) and all of a sudden my friend has a free bottle of champagne thrown in)

Its funny because originally it was an in joke between my friends and I because I organised everything and so they used to call them Ozle Events, then I left it on my email once when forwarding something to a company...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on January 06, 2014, 06:14:25 pm

So, I have found, if when I send an email enquiring about events im organising for my friends, if I subtly change my email signiture to say:

Quote
Thanks,

Ozle

Ozle Events

Not only do I tend to get really fast responses, but all kinds of better offers.

Just organised my friends birthday party at a Casino, saw the stated packed they had on offer, sent them an email with that signature (nothing in the body of the email about Ozle events at all) and all of a sudden my friend has a free bottle of champagne thrown in)

Its funny because originally it was an in joke between my friends and I because I organised everything and so they used to call them Ozle Events, then I left it on my email once when forwarding something to a company...

The next step is business cards
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on January 06, 2014, 06:18:15 pm
Ozle
Ozle Games
Address: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=853
Phone: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=pm;sa=send
Birthday: February 09, 2012, 04:27:36 am
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on January 06, 2014, 06:33:18 pm
Do your friends actually call you Ozle or is that a placeholder?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 06, 2014, 06:36:07 pm
Do your friends actually call you Ozle or is that a placeholder?

Erm.....Ozle is a Tuvaluan name, it means "great champion who comes from the earth to protect those he loves from insubstantial threats through kindness and humility"
Although in Vanatu Ozle means "fish"

Bloody Vanatu!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on January 08, 2014, 12:07:20 pm
So I've been playing a fair amount of Europa Universalis IV lately. Currently I have a game going as the Mamluks, i.e. Egyptians, about a century in. Things have been going relatively well but currently we are in a state of decline, mostly due to the expansion of the nefarious Ottoman Empire. I was not pleased when we lost Judea and Damascus in the most recent war, for example. My plan is to develop our Ethiopian holdings and maybe escape to Australia.

Anyway my distaste with the Ottomans led me to discover this amusing historical tidbit:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

It's quite humorous but also rather vulgar, so be warned if you are offended by historical vulgarity!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on January 08, 2014, 06:32:18 pm
If you like Tower Defense games and Pokemon, I highly suggest you try this out if you haven't: Pokemon Tower Defense. (http://samdangames.blogspot.com/p/play-ptd_16.html)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 08, 2014, 06:34:36 pm
So I've been playing a fair amount of Europa Universalis IV lately. Currently I have a game going as the Mamluks, i.e. Egyptians, about a century in. Things have been going relatively well but currently we are in a state of decline, mostly due to the expansion of the nefarious Ottoman Empire. I was not pleased when we lost Judea and Damascus in the most recent war, for example. My plan is to develop our Ethiopian holdings and maybe escape to Australia.

Anyway my distaste with the Ottomans led me to discover this amusing historical tidbit:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

It's quite humorous but also rather vulgar, so be warned if you are offended by historical vulgarity!


There is far too much Historical Vulgarity about today for my liking!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 09, 2014, 12:16:44 pm
If you like Tower Defense games and Pokemon, I highly suggest you try this out if you haven't: Pokemon Tower Defense. (http://samdangames.blogspot.com/p/play-ptd_16.html)

I like both Tower Defence and Pokemon, but really dislike the PTD game. It's a boring grind fest for the most part.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on January 09, 2014, 01:03:49 pm
If you like Tower Defense games and Pokemon, I highly suggest you try this out if you haven't: Pokemon Tower Defense. (http://samdangames.blogspot.com/p/play-ptd_16.html)

I like both Tower Defence and Pokemon, but really dislike the PTD game. It's a boring grind fest for the most part.
I played Pokémon once. This description sounds like my experience...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on January 09, 2014, 09:33:08 pm
If you like Tower Defense games and Pokemon, I highly suggest you try this out if you haven't: Pokemon Tower Defense. (http://samdangames.blogspot.com/p/play-ptd_16.html)

I like both Tower Defence and Pokemon, but really dislike the PTD game. It's a boring grind fest for the most part.

I really like the game and it's take on the TD genre. The grinding is a bit annoying, but I don't mind it too much. I haven't played the second one, so I don't know if that aspect is improved or not.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on January 09, 2014, 10:17:39 pm
If grinding isn't your thing, just leave experience share on in XY.  I don't like grinding either but I never had to in XY.  Actually, I was hilariously over-levelled the whole way.

Now I'm just breeding though, which is a different kind of grinding.
^ ready for out-of-context thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 09, 2014, 11:49:52 pm
If you like Tower Defense games and Pokemon, I highly suggest you try this out if you haven't: Pokemon Tower Defense. (http://samdangames.blogspot.com/p/play-ptd_16.html)

I like both Tower Defence and Pokemon, but really dislike the PTD game. It's a boring grind fest for the most part.
I played Pokémon once. This description sounds like my experience...

You rarely have to grind in pokemon, they're usually easy enough that you can comfortably get through the game just fighting necessary trainers. In X and Y I had a team of 6 pokemon, ended up about 10 levels below the E4 as a result and still beat them first try with some effort.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on January 10, 2014, 01:43:36 am
I love tower defense games.

My favorite is probably the Orcs Must Die games by Robot Entertainment.  So much fun, adding in a 3rd-person-action-shooter twist to the TD genre.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 10, 2014, 08:12:40 am
Have you tried Anomaly : Warzone Earth

its a TD but from the point of view of the creeps.


Also, Spice Bandits was pretty good
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on January 10, 2014, 10:07:37 am
It's 32 degrees F. in Chicago now. That's more than 45 degrees warmer than it was on Monday (not including wind chill). It felt so warm outside I almost felt like not wearing a coat! Almost.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on January 10, 2014, 01:37:54 pm
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: () | (_) ^/ on January 10, 2014, 01:53:09 pm
<iframe src=\"http://gfycat.com/iframe/RapidGlaringKissingbug\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" ></iframe>

Does it bother anyone else that the clouds never rotate, which implies that it is the road itself rotating and not the traveller?

Either that or the traveller AND clouds are rotating... frame of reference blah blah
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 10, 2014, 01:53:58 pm
I dont know I am going to watch it till it comes to the end and then let you know
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 12, 2014, 01:09:33 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOfll06X16c

I want.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on January 12, 2014, 06:20:41 pm

I want.

I would love to see the story behind this. Could be trippier than Portal and Black Swan.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on January 14, 2014, 02:58:33 pm
I just realized something you can do in math that is amazing...  I had to simplify the expression (2 tan x)/(1 - tan2 x).  I realized that I could factor out the tangent from the bottom by making it (tan x)((1/tan x) - tan x).  I never thought about factoring something in that way...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 14, 2014, 03:07:33 pm
I just realized something you can do in math that is amazing...  I had to simplify the expression (2 tan x)/(1 - tan2 x).  I realized that I could factor out the tangent from the bottom by making it (tan x)((1/tan x) - tan x).  I never thought about factoring something in that way...

I think you mean 2/(1/tanx - tanx).  But, what other way of factoring is there?  Factoring is just reverse distribution.. if you believe that a(b+c) = ab+ac, then you should also believe that ab+ac = a(b+c).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on January 14, 2014, 03:10:02 pm
I just realized something you can do in math that is amazing...  I had to simplify the expression (2 tan x)/(1 - tan2 x).  I realized that I could factor out the tangent from the bottom by making it (tan x)((1/tan x) - tan x).  I never thought about factoring something in that way...

I think you mean 2/(1/tanx - tanx).  But, what other way of factoring is there?  Factoring is just reverse distribution.. if you believe that a(b+c) = ab+ac, then you should also believe that ab+ac = a(b+c).

I was just saying the denominator.  I didn't really say that.  And I've never thought about factoring something like 2 out of 1 + 4 to make 2(1/2 + 2).  I'm talking about factoring something when it isn't divisible by it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 14, 2014, 03:18:32 pm
The part of math that I first fell in love with was how complex numbers unify trigonometry with exponentials/logarithms.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 14, 2014, 03:20:52 pm
I just realized something you can do in math that is amazing...  I had to simplify the expression (2 tan x)/(1 - tan2 x).  I realized that I could factor out the tangent from the bottom by making it (tan x)((1/tan x) - tan x).  I never thought about factoring something in that way...

I think you mean 2/(1/tanx - tanx).  But, what other way of factoring is there?  Factoring is just reverse distribution.. if you believe that a(b+c) = ab+ac, then you should also believe that ab+ac = a(b+c).

I was just saying the denominator.  I didn't really say that.  And I've never thought about factoring something like 2 out of 1 + 4 to make 2(1/2 + 2).  I'm talking about factoring something when it isn't divisible by it.

Oh, I was confused by your "it". 

But that's the nice part about working with real numbers instead of just integers.  Everything is "divisible" by everything but 0.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on January 14, 2014, 03:29:55 pm
If I'm not mistaken, you can also factor (1 - tan^2 x) as (1 + tan x) * (1 - tan x) right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on January 14, 2014, 03:31:50 pm
If I'm not mistaken, you can also factor (1 - tan^2 x) as (1 + tan x) * (1 - tan x)

Yeah, but that didn't help me in my situation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 14, 2014, 03:36:24 pm
Though in this case I'd just replace tan x by sin x/cos x and clear out all the fractions.  Seems like the most direct way.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on January 14, 2014, 03:36:28 pm
Ah, right.  I had misread your post.

Math epiphanies are the best epiphanies :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 14, 2014, 03:37:44 pm
If I'm not mistaken, you can also factor (1 - tan^2 x) as (1 + tan x) * (1 - tan x) right?

Yes


*Edit*
Damn, looks like I was wrong, darn 50/50 chance to look clever fails AGAIN!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 14, 2014, 03:49:10 pm
(2 tan x)/(1 - tan2x) = (2 sin x cos x)/(cos2x - sin2x) = sin(2x) / cos(2x) = tan(2x)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on January 14, 2014, 04:16:02 pm
(2 tan x)/(1 - tan2x) = (2 sin x cos x)/(cos2x - sin2x) = sin(2x) / cos(2x) = tan(2x)

Actually, the original problem was to turn tan(2x) into 2/(cot x - tan x)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 14, 2014, 04:35:07 pm
(2 tan x)/(1 - tan2x) = (2 sin x cos x)/(cos2x - sin2x) = sin(2x) / cos(2x) = tan(2x)

Actually, the original problem was to turn tan(2x) into 2/(cot x - tan x)

You originally said simplify, and we can all agree that tan(2x) is the simplest form :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 14, 2014, 04:36:47 pm
But even 2tanx/(1-tan^2x) seems like an unnecessary middle step..

tan(2x) = 2sinxcosx/(cos^2x-sin^2x) = 2/(cosx/sinx - sinx/cosx) = 2/(cotx - tan x)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on January 14, 2014, 04:40:35 pm
I used the identity for tan (2x) that they had used earlier.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 14, 2014, 04:44:01 pm
Trig conversions, ugh, I remember doing those at A level, and then almost never once I hit first year Maths.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 14, 2014, 05:08:32 pm
http://htwins.net/scale2/


The scale of everything
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on January 15, 2014, 11:22:35 pm
This is one of the best games I've ever played:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/StuStutheBloo/no-one-has-to-die

Well, maybe it is more of an interactive story than a game, but it is great nonetheless. I can't really describe what it's about without giving spoilers, so I recommend to check it out for yourself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on January 16, 2014, 12:04:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oOD9U9VQ5Y
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on January 16, 2014, 11:30:05 am
Not mine, found on a different forum:

Code: [Select]
  Such crawl                                                             
                  How Yendor
          Dogue
                      Wow
      Many ascii                         
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on January 16, 2014, 01:42:38 pm
Have you ever heard of "industrial musicals"?

Here's a lovely ballad "My Bathroom is a Private Kind of Place" from the 1969 classic "The Bathrooms are Coming":

youtube.com/watch?v=ye-XZ4Ukl08

And who could forget that old standard "Silicones, Silicones" from 1973's "Got to Investigate Silicones":

youtube.com/watch?v=_hNNqY_HekY

And much, much more!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_musical
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 17, 2014, 12:28:09 pm
Found a fun link on Facebook.  Some professors talk about Ramanujan summation without actually mentioning Ramanujan summation, and the comments section explodes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww&feature=youtu.be

Edit: The link to the Youtube page (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww) because reading the comments is the funny part.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on January 17, 2014, 04:03:25 pm
Edit: The link to the Youtube page (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww) because reading the comments is the funny part.
You can just click the embedded player to be linked to YouTube.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 17, 2014, 04:06:46 pm
Edit: The link to the Youtube page (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww) because reading the comments is the funny part.
You can just click the embedded player to be linked to YouTube.

Right, but I wanted to emphasize the YouTube page itself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 17, 2014, 05:38:38 pm
(http://www.livememe.com/hdl9eu9.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on January 17, 2014, 05:51:24 pm
Does anyone have an explanation for that series that doesn't make it seem like the universe is patronizing me?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 17, 2014, 05:56:35 pm
Does anyone have an explanation for that series that doesn't make it seem like the universe is patronizing me?

It was brought up earlier in this thread, right?  Or was it a different thread?  Anyway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramanujan_summation

It's a way of assigning values to a divergent series that makes sense. (It is consistent with the analytic continuation of the series that defines the Riemann Zeta function.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on January 17, 2014, 06:05:18 pm
Still feels like I'm being trolled haha. Sure I've seen the math before, but I've never gotten a truly satisfying explanation for it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 17, 2014, 06:10:55 pm
Does anyone have an explanation for that series that doesn't make it seem like the universe is patronizing me?

One way of viewing it is in terms of analytic continuation.  More precisely, define

Zeta(s) = (1/1)^s + (1/2)^s + (1/3)^s + (1/4)^s + ...

This series converges for real values of s greater than 1.  Naively, Zeta(-1) = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ..., but of course the series does not converge at s = -1.

Instead, we try to extend Zeta(s) analytically.  Basically, this means we want a nice smooth function Z(s), and Z(s) ought to be an extension of Zeta(s) in the sense that Z(s) = Zeta(s) whenever s is a real number greater than 1.

Now, it turns out that there is no way to continuously extend Zeta(s) such that it is well-defined at s=1.  But what Riemann instead did was find an analytic continuation Z(s) which is defined for all complex values of s apart from 1.  Thus, by moving through the complex plane around 1, we do have a nice smooth extension of Zeta(s) which reaches s=-1, and Z(-1) = -1/12.

Here's another way of looking at it:

Let f(s) = 1 + s + s^2 + s^3 + ...

You may recognize this as a geometric series, and note that f(s) = 1/(1-s).  Or at least, these functions are equal when |s| < 1. F(s) = 1/(1-s) is the analytic continuation of f(s).  So while f(-1) = 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + ... does not converge, the analytic continuation gives us F(-1) = 1/(1-(-1)) = 1/2.

Another example, which is perhaps less controversial, is the function g(s) = (s2 - 1)/(s-1).  Now, g(1) is undefined, but clearly g(s) "simplifies" by writing g(s) = (s2 - 1)/(s-1) = (s+1)(s-1)/(s-1) = s+1.  If we want to be precise, 1 is not in the domain of g(s), but 1 is in the domain of the analytic continuation G(s) = s+1, and there G(1) = 2.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on January 17, 2014, 06:16:12 pm
Thanks! That's as good an explanation as I've yet seen. It still feels bothersome that adding together only positive numbers would give you a negative. But I guess if we're dealing with infinity and the complex plane then all bets are off for ordinary intuition.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 17, 2014, 06:21:15 pm
Okay, so, we usually define an infinite sum as the limit of the sequence of partial sums:

Sum(f(n), n=0..infinity) = lim_{N->infinity} [Sum(f(n),n=0..N)]*

whenever that limit exists.  When that limit does not exist, we say the series diverges.  And we don't really do anything with it.  You may wonder if there is a consistent way to assign a value to Sum(f(n), n=0..infinity) in the case when the series diverges.  This would, of course, not be the same as the limit of the sequence of partial sums, as that limit does not exist.  However, the sequence of partial sums may still have some properties, even if it doesn't have a limit. 

Basically (I don't know much about this, I'm just reading the wikipedia page), the Ramanujan sum relates the partial sum to an integral (of the function f) by considering the sum to be an approximation (Trapezoidal) to the integral.  It turns out that the error of such a representation is fairly tractable.  From this representation one can find some values associated with the partial sums, and one of those values is the one in question here (the -1/12 for 1+2+3+...). 

It turns out that this isn't just random playing around, but actually has relevance.  When you look at the function

thing(s) = Sum(1/n^s, n=1..infinity),

which is defined for all complex s with Real(s) > 1,

a theory of Complex Analysis says this has a unique extension to the entire Complex plane (except the pole at s=1).  This extension is called the Riemann Zeta function Zeta(s), and we recognize Zeta(2) is a regular convergent infinite series with value Pi^2/6.  But it extends to other numbers as well, like Zeta(0) and Zeta(-1).  It turns out Zeta(-1) = -1/12.  (I don't know how this is shown in full rigor, but these things are known.) 

Well, we know Zeta(s) = Sum(1/n^s, n=1..infinity) for any s with Real(s) > 1.  This does not hold when s=-1.  However, Zeta(-1) = -1/12 is defined, and if we plug in s=-1 into the series on the right, it is exactly

Sum(1/n^{-1}, n = 1..infinity) = Sum(n,n=1..infinity) = 1+2+3+4+...

So when we say

1+2+3+ .... = -1/12,

this is an abuse of notation.  What this really means is that -1/12 is the value at a particular point of a function that is the analytic continuation of a particular series, where that series, if you were to plug in the same point, would give 1+2+3+.... . You can't "plug in" the point since it is not in the domain, but it makes perfect sense to extend the function thing(s) that I wrote above to the entire complex plane (though it has a pole when s=1).  So it's not completely bogus.



*So the sequence of partial sum for 1+2+3+... would be the sequence {1, 1+2=3, 1+2+3=6, 1+2+3+4=10, ...}, which is obviously divergent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 17, 2014, 06:21:47 pm
Ninja'd by Peebles :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 17, 2014, 06:29:27 pm
Thanks! That's as good an explanation as I've yet seen. It still feels bothersome that adding together only positive numbers would give you a negative. But I guess if we're dealing with infinity and the complex plane then all bets are off for ordinary intuition.

You shouldn't interpret it too literally.  Another similar example is f(x) = arcsin(x).  By the geometric definition of arcsine, it is complete nonsense to ask what arcin(2) is.  After all, there is no value of s for which g(s) = sin(s) = 2.  But there is a unique way of extending sin(s) from the real line to the full complex plane.  It turns out that sin(x+iy) = sin(x)cos(iy) + cos(x)sin(iy) = sin(x)cosh(y) + i cos(x)sinh(y).  Using this continuation, there is in fact a complex valued s for which sin(s) = 2, and so we can give a value to arcsine(2).  (it will still have multiple values like arcsine usually does, so you need to make a suitable restriction called a branch cut, analogous to the usual requirement that arcsince always take value  in the IV or I quadrant)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 17, 2014, 09:24:20 pm
Hey, I have a better explanation after rewatching the video.

In the video he considers three sums

S1 = 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + ...
S2 = 1 - 2 + 3 - 4 + ...
S = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ...

Given such a sum, we can write a "generating function".  That is, a power series using the entries in the sum as coefficients.

f(x) = 1 - x + x2 - x3 + ...
g(x) = 1 - 2x + 3x2 - 4x3 + ...
h(x) = 1 + 2x + 3x2 + 4x3 + ...

Notice that, naively speaking, f(1) = S1, g(1) = S2, and h(1) = S. These aren't quite true, since these three power series each diverge at x=1.

f(x) and g(x) each converge for |x| < 1.  Here, f(x) converges to F(x) = 1/(1+x).  Since g(x) is the term by term derivative of -f(x), we have that it converges to G(x) = -F'(x) = 1/(1+x)2.  Note that F(x) and G(x) are analytic continuations of f(x) and g(x).  That is, they agree with f(x) and g(x) whenever f(x) and g(x) converge, but F(x) and G(x) are also well-defined at some other values.  In particular, F(1) = 1/2 and G(1) = 1/4.  That is the sense in which S1 = 1/2 and S2 = 1/4.

By the way, here I used a derivative to compute G(x).  In the video, they instead look at S2 added to itself with a shift.  In terms of power series, the shifted S2 is really  0 + 1 - 2 + 3 - 4 which has generating function xg(x) rather than g(x).  So the video's observation is really that g(x) + x g(x) = f(x).  Thus G(x) + x G(x) = F(x), so (1+x)G(x) = 1/(1+x) and G(x) = 1/(1+x)2.  No derivative necessary.

Now the next trick they consider is S - S2.  Using our power series, the observation is that
h(x) - g(x) = 4x + 8x3 + 12 x5 + ... = 4x(1 + 2x2 + 3x4 + ...) = 4xh(x2).

Now if h(x) has an analytic continuation H(x), we have
H(x) - G(x) = 4xH(x2)

Plug in x=1 and you get
H(1) - G(1) = 4H(1)

Solving for H(1), you get H(1) = (-1/3)G(1) = (-1/3)(1/4) = -1/12.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on January 17, 2014, 09:46:18 pm
I like the explanation with generating functions.  It makes things more tangible.   
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 17, 2014, 09:56:21 pm
I like the explanation with generating functions.  It makes things more tangible.   

Unfortunately, at one point I say "if h(x) has an analytic continuation H(x) that's defined at x=1", and of course it doesn't.  H(x) would need to agree with h(x) for real values of x  between -1 and 1.  But the limit as x approached 1 (from the left) of h(x) is positive infinity.  Thus there is not even a continuous extension.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 18, 2014, 12:35:13 pm
http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/dp/B000EVQWKC/ref=cm_rdp_product

Oh god, the reviews.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on January 21, 2014, 06:48:53 pm
Because I know you are all addicted to clicking game:

http://dhmholley.co.uk/civclicker.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 22, 2014, 08:11:25 pm
Every NES start screen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOvaSOFLtJU
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on January 23, 2014, 12:49:34 am
http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Gummy-Candy-Sugarless-5-Pound/dp/B000EVQWKC/ref=cm_rdp_product

Oh god, the reviews.

That had to have been planned somewhere, like reddit or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 23, 2014, 10:45:26 am
Because I know you are all addicted to clicking game:

http://dhmholley.co.uk/civclicker.html

Well, I finished one civilisation (by finished I mean I did everything really relevant: Got all the Deity upgrades, built a Wonder, and raided everything). Now moving on to another, which I'm gunning for the Neverclick achievement in (22 clicks on resources ever).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 23, 2014, 12:02:40 pm
You mean they added new achievements to civ clicker?  I haven't played it for months.  Sigh...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on January 23, 2014, 12:06:45 pm
You mean they added new achievements to civ clicker?  I haven't played it for months.  Sigh...

I dunno if it's new. I just know that the Reddit says it's there and you need to only use 22 clicks to get started. I'm currently in the rather annoying process of waiting for a trader to turn up who wants 5K or 10K of a basic resource, which is about 4% chance per trader if I'm reading the code correctly (6 possibilities out of 160). I need two Gold now to kickstart everything (one to open the trading post, one to get 500 Herbs, which which I can get Temples and thus Iconoclasm for more Gold, and thus the ability to collect all special resources).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on January 23, 2014, 12:44:18 pm
When you first posted that I thought it said CV Clicker, and assumed it was some sort of parody of academia.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on January 23, 2014, 01:59:44 pm
When you first posted that I thought it said CV Clicker, and assumed it was some sort of parody of academia.

Some days, I think academia is already a parody of academia.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on January 23, 2014, 02:32:55 pm
I'll accept the risk that I first found this in this thread and recommend A Non-Philosopher's Guide to Philosophical Terms (http://consc.net/misc/philosophicalterms.html).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on January 23, 2014, 11:13:17 pm
Huh. Is it just me or should the slab definitions be switched?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 24, 2014, 08:11:37 am
Quote
involves upside-down As and reversed Es

I find it more elegant to see them both as rotated.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on January 24, 2014, 12:53:44 pm
and some 2003 Yong Pin Hao "Yin Hao Tuo" pu'erh tea.
This, by the way, is absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on January 27, 2014, 06:42:10 pm
In continuation of these:

Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to transribe...

Man, this (http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/english) song is hard to play (after I transribed it)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzuUIfpqQ9I
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on January 29, 2014, 02:13:55 pm


Did Modern Toss ever make it out of Britain?

Brilliant TV show.

Anyway, just found this.

http://ptos.moderntoss.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on January 30, 2014, 01:28:30 pm
A kid call the police for help on math homework.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olei1KQOKY0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: popsofctown on February 02, 2014, 09:55:59 pm
I miss playing Dominion online.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 03, 2014, 05:46:46 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/eaa4755b3eb46414aca90b477ce434ba/tumblr_n04k79CkZc1st4bmvo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on February 03, 2014, 05:56:04 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/eaa4755b3eb46414aca90b477ce434ba/tumblr_n04k79CkZc1st4bmvo1_500.gif)
The quality gives it away immediately.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on February 04, 2014, 10:05:12 pm
Still hopelessly addicted to Europa Universalis IV. I just finished my first full 1444 - 1821 game playing as Hindustan. Here's a screenshot of my empire at the end date:

(http://i.imgur.com/YZODSyG.jpg)

More images of the rest of the world can be found here:

http://imgur.com/a/waVDZ
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 04, 2014, 10:41:18 pm
OK, wow, that looks like an incredibly cool game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on February 04, 2014, 11:48:20 pm
Yeah I totally endorse it! So so much fun. I bet a lot of people on this forum would love it...it's all beautiful maps and numbers and obscure history and excellent music. It requires patience and the AI is pretty brutal sometimes. It's basically like a big huge fun board game with a zillion variables.

Trying to decide whom to play next...part of the appeal is that you can play as basically anybody. You can play as the Ottomans and crush everyone or play as Albania and try not to be crushed.

I also completely recommend Crusader Kings 2, made by the same company, which is basically the same game but in medieval times, and you control a dynasty rather than a nation, so it has more of a personal touch.

They're both on sale right now for the next few days!

https://www.humblebundle.com/store
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Gveoniz on February 05, 2014, 02:20:52 am
A Crusader Kings II Screen shoot for my Poland / Wendish Empire Campaign after 128 in game years:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b2FO9YROBKU/UvHj_7LDuWI/AAAAAAAAAhc/n-V-lzXVA2I/s912/CK2%2520wendish%2520empire.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 05, 2014, 04:08:42 pm
If you play CK2, play it with the Game of Thrones mod.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 05, 2014, 04:20:45 pm
If you play CK2, play it with the Game of Thrones mod.

Yeah, I'm giving in to the temptation and getting these tonight. Goodbye, real world!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 05, 2014, 04:37:27 pm
If you play CK2, play it with the Game of Thrones mod.

Must..resist...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 05, 2014, 04:46:00 pm
If you play CK2, play it with the Game of Thrones mod.

Must..resist...

Come on, you know you want to see what happens if Stannis wins the battle of the Blackwater.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 06, 2014, 11:34:49 am
So how the heck do landed titles work. Reading wikis like mad and I still don't get it.

I started as a lowly dude (count? I think). Had three sons. My liege lord decides I've been pretty great and grants me another county. Huzzah! Except wait, now I have a notification that upon succession I'll lose this new county. Well that makes no sense! I check on it, and it looks like my eldest son (my heir) is scheduled to inherit my original county, and my middle son is scheduled to inherit my new county. I wasn't allowed to give the title to the new county to my oldest son, but I could give it to my youngest (third) son.

You can clearly hold two titles at once, since I myself was holding them. Why couldn't my heir inherit both?

(fun fact: eldest son died right before I started an ill-advised war, second son was taken prisoner and sacrificed to the Drowned God, third son was sent to the nights watch. So my heir is now my grandson, only child of my first son, who is 12. My only other living descendant is the legitimized bastard only child of my third son. Things...things do not look good for the First Time Playing family.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 06, 2014, 11:43:08 am
Are we giving up on cookie clicker already?  I just hit 250 quintillion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on February 06, 2014, 11:45:21 am
Haha, you can probably expect a few false starts before you get something truly majestic. My first Scandinavian game saw me unable to pay my mercenaries, and I had to cede half of my land to the "Finnish Band"

I've not yet played the GoT mod, so I don't know about your particular problem. Did you check the succession laws? Sometimes Gavelkind succession leads to some annoying situations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 06, 2014, 11:46:19 am
Haha, you can probably expect a few false starts before you get something truly majestic. My first Scandinavian game saw me unable to pay my mercenaries, and I had to cede half of my land to the "Finnish Band"

I've not yet played the GoT mod, so I don't know about your particular problem. Did you check the succession laws? Sometimes Gavelkind succession leads to some annoying situations.

I was Gavelkind! I shall read up on Gavelkind because I have no idea what it means!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 06, 2014, 11:47:12 am
Oh, I was also castrated.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on February 06, 2014, 11:51:49 am
Wow Peebles go for the sextillion! My Cookie Clicker days are behind me I think.

I don't really understand Gavelkind either, but it basically means you have to split your land amongst your heirs. So try to have one really good son and no more if you're aiming to blob.

Haha good thing you had some kids first I guess!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 06, 2014, 11:54:07 am
Haha good thing you had some kids first I guess!

Honestly I have more fun when I lose games, I think. This first playthrough is a huge blast.

Yeah, it looks like Gavelkind means, you have to split everything up. Interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 06, 2014, 11:59:50 am
Honestly I have more fun when I lose games, I think.

Have you played Dwarf Fortress by any chance?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 06, 2014, 12:01:19 pm
Honestly I have more fun when I lose games, I think.

Have you played Dwarf Fortress by any chance?

I have heard of it, but never played.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on February 06, 2014, 12:05:15 pm
Honestly I have more fun when I lose games, I think.

Have you played Dwarf Fortress by any chance?

I have heard of it, but never played.

The point is that the motto of Dwarf Fortress is "Losing is fun"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on February 07, 2014, 12:18:57 am
Are we giving up on cookie clicker already?  I just hit 250 quintillion.
I exchanged it for sandcastle builder (http://castle.chirpingmustard.com/castle.html). That game is a lot slower, but also a lot deeper (takes a lot more time to get everything. I started 3 days ago, and I'm still at the very beginning). It's not as slow as it initially looks though: there are some crazy upgrades out there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on February 07, 2014, 07:22:28 am
I'm not giving up on cookie clicker! on my next reset I'll hit 6000 heavenly chips.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 07, 2014, 10:20:55 am
Well, I finally kicked the bucket at 72 due to old age and my eldest grandson inherited...only to be killed by the Lord of Riverrun (what did I ever to do him? I'm not nearly that important!). So remember that legitimized bastard only son of my third kid? Yeah, that's who is ruling right now. He has no heirs (but a pregnant wife, thank god) and is somehow the brother-in-law of the Lord of Riverrun, easily the highest political standing my family has ever achieved. ...wait a minute...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on February 07, 2014, 02:04:00 pm
Quick, somebody +1 me, I have 666 respect!

...or don't, being evil is kind of cool I guess.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on February 07, 2014, 02:05:36 pm
Matriculation examination is suffering.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 07, 2014, 02:22:05 pm
I'm not giving up on cookie clicker! on my next reset I'll hit 6000 heavenly chips.
I stopped playing for a while and just checked today... My cookies were deleted :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 07, 2014, 02:22:55 pm
Quick, somebody +1 me, I have 666 respect!

...or don't, being evil is kind of cool I guess.
I'm 6'6.6" >:)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on February 07, 2014, 07:22:17 pm
Quick, somebody +1 me, I have 666 respect!

...or don't, being evil is kind of cool I guess.
I'm 6'6.6" >:)

Really?  Because I am also 6'6.6"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 07, 2014, 07:54:59 pm
Quick, somebody +1 me, I have 666 respect!

...or don't, being evil is kind of cool I guess.
I'm 6'6.6" >:)

Really?  Because I am also 6'6.6"

Are you sure you aren't 8'11?

(This hopefully isn't too subtle...)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 08, 2014, 03:14:09 am
For your viewing pleasure:  The Russian Police Choir.

Performing Get Lucky.

At the Olympics.

Boys and girls, it doesn't get much more ridiculous than this.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/russian-police-choir-sings-get-lucky-at-olympics-opening-ceremony-20140207
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/russian-police-choir-performs-get-lucky-opening-ceremony?ctx=top-moments
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on February 08, 2014, 07:58:18 am
Are we giving up on cookie clicker already?  I just hit 250 quintillion.
I exchanged it for sandcastle builder (http://castle.chirpingmustard.com/castle.html). That game is a lot slower, but also a lot deeper (takes a lot more time to get everything. I started 3 days ago, and I'm still at the very beginning). It's not as slow as it initially looks though: there are some crazy upgrades out there.
I started this yesterday, and it's pretty fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 08, 2014, 08:39:18 pm
For your viewing pleasure:  The Russian Police Choir.

Performing Get Lucky.

At the Olympics.

Boys and girls, it doesn't get much more ridiculous than this.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/russian-police-choir-sings-get-lucky-at-olympics-opening-ceremony-20140207
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/russian-police-choir-performs-get-lucky-opening-ceremony?ctx=top-moments
I guess that trumps trololo: http://deadspin.com/opening-ceremony-features-trololo-song-1518342095
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 09, 2014, 10:39:16 am
Are we giving up on cookie clicker already?  I just hit 250 quintillion.
I still go; I'm at 255 quint.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on February 09, 2014, 01:34:44 pm
I just realized that Tuvalu is a real country.  :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 09, 2014, 03:49:56 pm
I just realized that Tuvalu is a real country.  :o

You thought Ozle was making up his homeland??
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 09, 2014, 04:10:26 pm
I just realized that Tuvalu is a real country.  :o

You thought Ozle was making up his homeland??

It's Ozle so ... yeah?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 10, 2014, 06:06:37 pm
In case any of you are still thinking about that 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... = -1/12 thing, I've been reading up more on number theory and quantum field theory lately, and it is looking like the main crux is in defining the determinant of a linear operator on your infinite dimensional Hilbert space.  Physicists give a rather sloppy definition involving path integrals which result in divergent sums.  Mathematicians have given a definition which is analogous to the finite dimensional case where the determinant is just the product of eigenvalues and the trace is the sum of the eigenvalues.  The idea is to define an analogue of the Riemann Zeta function on the the eigenvalues by considering traces of powers of your operator.  Then the product of the eigenvalues could be thought of as exponentiating a derivative at zero of the Zeta function.  Of course, the Zeta function would generally diverge at 0 (since you'd be taking the trace of the identity operator on an infinite dimensional space, which would be infinite), so it is defined via analytic continuation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_determinant
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 10, 2014, 08:09:04 pm
In case any of you are still thinking about that 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... = -1/12 thing, I've been reading up more on number theory and quantum field theory lately, and it is looking like the main crux is in defining the determinant of a linear operator on your infinite dimensional Hilbert space.  Physicists give a rather sloppy definition involving path integrals which result in divergent sums.  Mathematicians have given a definition which is analogous to the finite dimensional case where the determinant is just the product of eigenvalues and the trace is the sum of the eigenvalues.  The idea is to define an analogue of the Riemann Zeta function on the the eigenvalues by considering traces of powers of your operator.  Then the product of the eigenvalues could be thought of as exponentiating a derivative at zero of the Zeta function.  Of course, the Zeta function would generally diverge at 0 (since you'd be taking the trace of the identity operator on an infinite dimensional space, which would be infinite), so it is defined via analytic continuation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_determinant

I'm pretty certain I've read or heard all of those words before.  However, they make no sense as you've written them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 10, 2014, 08:16:02 pm
tl;dr: string theory - where everything's made up and the maths dont matter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 10, 2014, 10:23:46 pm
tl;dr: string theory - where everything's made up and the maths dont matter.

Well, it shows up in quantum field theory, which is relatively concrete.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 10, 2014, 10:54:32 pm
tl;dr: string theory - where everything's made up and the maths dont matter.

Well, it shows up in quantum field theory, which is relatively concrete.

Much in the same way that being stabbed in the eye is relatively painless.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 10, 2014, 11:02:50 pm
tl;dr: string theory - where everything's made up and the maths dont matter.

Well, it shows up in quantum field theory, which is relatively concrete.

Much in the same way that being stabbed in the eye is relatively painless.

Well it is pretty nice for explaining how atoms larger than, say, hydrogen can exist.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 11, 2014, 12:04:43 am
tl;dr: string theory - where everything's made up and the maths dont matter.

Well, it shows up in quantum field theory, which is relatively concrete.

Much in the same way that being stabbed in the eye is relatively painless.

Well it is pretty nice for explaining how atoms larger than, say, hydrogen can exist.

Well, sure, I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm saying it's not concrete.  A lot of useful things aren't concrete, like almost all of mathematics.  And a significant chunk of physics and even basic chemistry.  I don't think I'd call VSEPR, for instance, concrete.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on February 11, 2014, 06:46:19 am
Hey guys, got a little question for you.  School is cancelled for the too-manyith time here and shraeye is looking for a way to teach his students without being in the office.  I suggested he still hold office hours via some sort of chat service room type thing.  Does anybody know any reputable but free service like that?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 11, 2014, 08:11:25 am
Hey guys, got a little question for you.  School is cancelled for the too-manyith time here and shraeye is looking for a way to teach his students without being in the office.  I suggested he still hold office hours via some sort of chat service room type thing.  Does anybody know any reputable but free service like that?

Google hangout?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 11, 2014, 12:44:08 pm
twitch.tv works pretty well too, although his students would have to talk to him by chat instead of video.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 11, 2014, 04:47:12 pm
problem solved...no students wanted to talk. :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on February 11, 2014, 06:04:45 pm
tl;dr: string theory - where everything's made up and the maths dont matter.

Well, it shows up in quantum field theory, which is relatively concrete.

Better than asphalt, I imagine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on February 11, 2014, 06:18:03 pm
tl;dr: string theory - where everything's made up and the maths dont matter.

Well, it shows up in quantum field theory, which is relatively concrete.

As opposed to, say, the classical Hamiltonian formalism, which is non-relatively concrete.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 11, 2014, 07:20:58 pm
Yay, someone got the pun  :D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 12, 2014, 11:13:10 am
Yay, someone got the pun  :D

Oh.  Oh dear.  Yeah, that was a bit out there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 12, 2014, 12:50:00 pm
Well, we can close the book on my first CKII GoT playthrough. Things had been going so well, too! The war to restore the Freys to Lords of the Crossing was successful, and my new lord was pleased with my help. My wife gave birth to twins, a boy and a girl, so I had an heir. But then, some other minor lord decided he wanted the Crossing and, well, his army was bigger. Even worse, the stupid Freys didn't fight back. So I was invaded and my territory was under siege. My family went into hiding, and I was captured. Now, how exactly the game ended I don't actually know ((#)&^)(&@%)& game won't let you see your messages after the "Game Over" screen pops up, so how this all went down is a little unclear), but at this point the game ended. I could see that I was now wearing black in my profile, so I was clearly stripped of my lands and titles and sent to the Nights Watch. I can only assume my heir (about a year old) was also stripped of these too, because he should have inherited. But alas, twas not to be.

Verdict is amazing game, fyi.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on February 12, 2014, 01:11:10 pm
Doghouse deserves to be slightly better known.

(http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-02-07-75b93da.png) (http://thedoghousediaries.com/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 12, 2014, 09:14:19 pm
http://www.thymecube.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 12, 2014, 09:38:37 pm
Also, I found this at the scientific american blog and had to post it here given the conversation.

(http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/roots-of-unity/files/2014/01/analytic-continuation-lucille-1.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 13, 2014, 09:56:14 am
Also, I found this at the scientific american blog and had to post it here given the conversation.

(http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/roots-of-unity/files/2014/01/analytic-continuation-lucille-1.gif)

How to be a Physicist!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on February 13, 2014, 10:51:53 am
ugh!

(http://i.imgur.com/pQjoQ.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 13, 2014, 11:29:20 am
Except for neon black. Nobody can read anything on neon black. That's how we won WWII.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 13, 2014, 02:26:20 pm
ugh!

(http://)
"X-Color text with Y-Color outline can be read on any color background, where X-Color text can be read on Y-Color background."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 13, 2014, 02:44:47 pm
Why ugh, theory?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 13, 2014, 02:57:55 pm
As the child of deaf people, I have an appreciation for closed captioning that may be greater than the average person. Therefore, it drives me nuts when I see captions that's not on a suitably contrastable background.

I'm used to black blocks with white text, because that's what I grew up with in the '80s, but I'll accept any color combination that has suitable readability. I've even seen turquoise or pink on a black background, and it works great.

Granted, the black background can be a hassle when it's overlaying news captions. That's unfortunate. 

So when I see a TV that shows white/gray text with no background, I just want to rage.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 13, 2014, 06:28:22 pm
Why ugh, theory?

I think he was commenting on the Lucille meme I linked to.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 13, 2014, 07:27:46 pm
Why ugh, theory?

I think he was commenting on the Lucille meme I linked to.

OIC
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 13, 2014, 08:48:20 pm
Cookie clicker update!  new building :)

Edit:  I'm now up to 80 trillion cookies per second o_O
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on February 13, 2014, 09:14:11 pm
Oh boy! HUGE CpS boost! new achievements! Not easy ones too! 150 prisms will be tough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on February 13, 2014, 09:16:17 pm
I'm only at 10 trillion now, but I didn't have very many cookies when the update came... and have only been playing for like 5 minutes since the update. Interested to see how much I have when I can afford all the "cheap" stuff tomorrow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 13, 2014, 09:32:58 pm
Cookie clicker update!  new building :)

Edit:  I'm now up to 80 trillion cookies per second o_O
Someone noticed you: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10420.0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 13, 2014, 09:35:11 pm
Flappybit MMO: http://flapmmo.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 13, 2014, 09:58:22 pm
Every time you guys talk about Cookie Clicker just reminds me of a recent SMBC comic (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3259#comic) now.

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140205.png)

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140205after.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 13, 2014, 10:02:48 pm
http://the-toast.net/2013/11/20/yes-you-can-even/

I'm mostly putting this here for our resident linguist AJD, who has probably already seen it anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 13, 2014, 10:57:16 pm
That is my favorite SMBC of all time. Now I have to go click some cookies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 13, 2014, 10:57:44 pm
I always thought "I can't even" was a negative thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on February 13, 2014, 11:06:52 pm
I always thought "I can't even" was a negative thing.
Me too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 13, 2014, 11:09:10 pm
Has anyone gotten speed baking III? I've managed II, but III seems absurdly hard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 13, 2014, 11:45:24 pm
I always thought "I can't even" was a negative thing.
Me too.

My understanding is that it just indicates something surprising or flustering.  Something that leaves you speechless.  It could be negative or positive.

It's like how "overwhelming" could be good or bad.  Actually, "I can't even" indicates some overwhelming-ness to me as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: werothegreat on February 14, 2014, 12:30:40 am
Has anyone gotten speed baking III? I've managed II, but III seems absurdly hard.

See, I'm focusing more on getting the 150 Prisms achievement at the moment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 14, 2014, 12:34:10 am
Has anyone gotten speed baking III? I've managed II, but III seems absurdly hard.

See, I'm focusing more on getting the 150 Prisms achievement at the moment.

Dont forget the 200 all buildings achievement. That will take possibly forever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on February 14, 2014, 07:06:53 am
Speed baking III is easy enough if you get a frenzy cookie early I've heard. (note: I haven't actually attempted to get it yet). I made a thread on their forum about how it could be possible without golden cookies, which I think it could be if you spend all your time not buying things clicking the cookie and buy things in the virtually optimal order. I'm curious what season it is on when you reset, because you won't be able to afford to change the season for a while. Not sure what bonus each season gives you yet, but christmas gives you reindeer, which are pretty good. Also, cookie master is broken, which is really annoying.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 14, 2014, 08:17:40 am
Man, if you want some random clicking, you should at least play Marvel Avengers Alliance on Facebook and be my ally. At least those clicks can result in radioactive pugilism (Red Hulk is one of the most fun characters).

But playing that and watching Breaking Bad are taking up enough of my time. I'm not clicking on cookies, nope, nope, nope.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on February 14, 2014, 12:14:15 pm
I am the one who clicks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 14, 2014, 02:06:50 pm
Has anyone gotten speed baking III? I've managed II, but III seems absurdly hard.
I think the creator said that this is impossible without cheating.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 14, 2014, 03:54:29 pm
Has anyone gotten speed baking III? I've managed II, but III seems absurdly hard.
I think the creator said that this is impossible without cheating.

I got it when I first started, when the golden cookies were bugged and appearing every few seconds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 14, 2014, 03:57:20 pm
Has anyone gotten speed baking III? I've managed II, but III seems absurdly hard.
I think the creator said that this is impossible without cheating.
I got super close two resets ago, I crossed 1million sometime between 15 and 16 minutes. Reindeer cookies help.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 15, 2014, 02:51:46 am
Is anybody watching Twitch Plays Pokemon (http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon)?

They're 56 hours in now.  They have 2 badges.  Apparently the S.S. Anne has been cleared.  They even have a full party of pokemon.  I'm not sure if they've managed to teach Cut to anything yet... probably not.  Even after they do, it's going to take them forever to find the switches in the Vermillion Gym.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 15, 2014, 01:47:46 pm
Oh man, I just checked that out, that's hilarious.

Edit: For those not on Twitch or who didn't check the link:

Quote
What is this?

TwitchPlaysPokemon is a social experiment, it is a stream of the Gameboy version of Pokemon Red (151 romhack) running on an emulator. An IRC bot translates buttons said in chat into keypresses (simulated in software, no fancy typist robots).

How do I play?

Say the button you want pushed in chat (a, b, start select, up, down, left, right), please be aware that there is considerable input lag (see below) and will take awhile before your inputs are registered.

Only one button per message is accepted, there's no combos or holds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 15, 2014, 01:57:15 pm
This is so hilarious.
However there seem to be some people spamming stupid commands to screw things up.
EDIT: Rattata learned Thunderbolt and forgot Tackle in return!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 15, 2014, 02:23:34 pm
This is so hilarious.
However there seem to be some people spamming stupid commands to screw things up.

shocking!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 15, 2014, 04:44:41 pm
So they actually managed to get past the Vermillion Gym puzzle really quickly.

(http://i.imgur.com/61LTY1N.gif)



They've been stuck on this next route for hours though.  Too many ledges, too many people pressing "down".

(http://i.imgur.com/6HFNnni.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 15, 2014, 05:57:36 pm
I'm not even sure if it's trolls or the delay stopping progress.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 15, 2014, 06:31:03 pm
Mostly trolls. You only need one down input to get read and you drop down, and where they are, there's zero reason to actually go down. Like they only want to head up for the time being.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 15, 2014, 07:12:03 pm
Actually, there is a reason to go down. You need to go down to get into that pathway where you mustn't go down, except if yu got there from below by taking exactly 2 steps up before.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 15, 2014, 07:34:27 pm
Just got really close, only one step right was required to go up.

EDIT: They got through!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 15, 2014, 07:37:50 pm
Are you guys inputting commands, or just watching? This thing is pretty hilarious, but I don't have the attention span to watch it for more than 10 minutes at a time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 15, 2014, 07:53:38 pm
I'm casually watching, not inputting anything. They've actually made progress now and are in a trainer fight at time of posting. I strongly suspect they'll need to go through that area they got trapped on multiple times though. Like, probably 5+ times. Likely more like 20+. Thanks to pokemon fainting and walking off ledges and stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 15, 2014, 08:12:13 pm
Yeah, theyre back to the Pokecenter.
I occasionally input a command, but pretty much just check what's happening every now and then.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 15, 2014, 09:24:02 pm
I can't wait for them to get Fly. I guess they don't need to, and it seems it would be pretty disastrous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 15, 2014, 09:42:49 pm
They have cut and just it used it to cut a bush to get to the ledge again. Apparently the plan is to get to the cave tunnel - but they don't have flash, which won't make that easier.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 15, 2014, 10:30:44 pm
They have cut and just it used it to cut a bush to get to the ledge again. Apparently the plan is to get to the cave tunnel - but they don't have flash, which won't make that easier.
I doubt it'll make it much harder either.

I have an old mac and can't update flash to watch twitch :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on February 16, 2014, 02:00:39 am
Going through the cave without flash is probably easier than getting flash, lol.  You have to go through a tunnel and cut several bushes to get flash, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 16, 2014, 04:21:23 am
Not sure how far they made it through Rock Tunnel, but they either used Dig (which appears to have been taught to Rattata, who also knows Thunderbolt and Body Slam) or they used an Escape Rope.  They did manage to use the Pokemon Center outside Rock Tunnel, so that's good.  And they are back inside Rock Tunnel now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 16, 2014, 06:13:34 am
Watching that hurts.  The name "twitch" has never been more appropriate.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 16, 2014, 08:45:29 am
Apparently the digging Rattata has been successfully deposited after taking them out of the tunnel multiple times.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 16, 2014, 06:10:24 pm
They managed to get out of the tunnel and into the next gym.
After nearly getting fainted tehre, there was a very interesting episode: Some people wanted to go back to the Pokecenter to heal, which would have required cutting down a tree, others thought suiciding was easier. Furst time I've seen people trying to go in opposite directions at the same time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 16, 2014, 09:10:54 pm
They just dominated Eirika. Really good fight, using that age old strategy of 'spam gust'
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on February 16, 2014, 09:38:41 pm
I was watching back when they were trying to get into Lt Surge's gym for the second time, and threw away a Nugget. My fiancee beside me nearly had a heart attack from it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 17, 2014, 03:43:40 am
They managed to get out of the tunnel and into the next gym.
After nearly getting fainted tehre, there was a very interesting episode: Some people wanted to go back to the Pokecenter to heal, which would have required cutting down a tree, others thought suiciding was easier. Furst time I've seen people trying to go in opposite directions at the same time.

They did suicide in the end.  I witnessed it!  And I witnessed them beating Erika sometime after that!  Exciting stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 17, 2014, 07:50:11 am
I saw most of it as well.
Apparently now they got an Eevee, which left them without a slot for a pokemon that can learn surf, bought the wrong stone to evolve it, and released a lvl 32 Charmeleon and a a Rattata trying to make room.  Also they deposited a lvl 40+ Pidgeot (but got it back) and the S.S. ticket.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 17, 2014, 08:28:03 am
They're trying to get up some stairs right now, which is really funny to watch, because they have to alternate going left and right. They have gotten to the top level multiple times, only to be brought back down.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 17, 2014, 09:52:31 am
They released Charmeleon? Oh man, that's too good. Sounds like they've not made much progress overnight :P.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on February 17, 2014, 11:58:58 am
There was a RNG plays pokemon parody, but it's gone now.  Last night it was just past Misty.

Was actually making better time than the twitch plays pokemon, although the moves were inputted much, much faster.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 17, 2014, 12:01:52 pm
Yeah I saw that. I believe it managed to leave itself with nothing but a Magikarp who couldn't attack.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 17, 2014, 12:27:08 pm
Yeah I saw that. I believe it managed to leave itself with nothing but a Magikarp who couldn't attack.
I heard about that, too.

It's really fascinating when people are split about where they should go next. At first, they run in circles for a while, but at some point one side wins and most people try to get to the same goal.
Btw, they managed to evolve Eevee to Flareon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 17, 2014, 02:40:59 pm
Though sad to see it go, Abby K wasn't that amazing anyway.  It had no fire attacks and lost its chance at Slash.  Pidgeot is carrying the team, so it's lucky they didn't lose it.

Flareon... mehhhh.

Next question -- will they manage to get Lapras?

Edit: they caught an Oddish and withdrew the other Rattata?  Well that's not good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 17, 2014, 02:43:30 pm
They don't currently have a slot for it, because they caught an Oddish i think.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 17, 2014, 02:50:06 pm
They don't currently have a slot for it, because they caught an Oddish i think.

And withdrew the digging Rattata.  Yeah, just checked the Google Doc.  That's going to be perilous to deposit again...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on February 17, 2014, 03:20:39 pm
What's the link to the google doc?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 17, 2014, 03:45:01 pm
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ka89uCBeLl9VV5GPlAKuW7yF8FGtnVmdbPnIwG8FnQ4/preview?pli=1&sle=true
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 17, 2014, 09:40:51 pm
They released Charmeleon? Oh man, that's too good. Sounds like they've not made much progress overnight :P.
I blame Eevee.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 17, 2014, 10:21:56 pm
So here's something interesting. I played a game earlier today. Don't remember the name. The basic idea is that there's some cards, each with 8 objects on, and for each possible pair of cards, exactly one object is on both cards, which players are trying to find.

Here are the numbers the rulebook gives: 55 cards, 8 objects on each card, 50 objects total. So naturally, as a mathematician, I decided to try and calculate an upper bound on the possible number of cards (and from there intended to see if I could narrow it down to an actual maximum. And I got 43 as an upper bound, which... well, obviously slightly worried me.

My method was this: One card has eight objects. That means, for any possible pair of two objects on that card, that pair can't appear on another card (or it'd have two objects in common with the first card). As there are eight objects, that means there are (8C2) = 28 different pairs of objects covered, none of which are shared with another card. There are 50 objects total. That means there are (50C2) = 1225 total pairs of objects. So now as every card has 28 unique pairs, we can obtain an upper bound by taking (total no. of object pairs) / (pairs on each card) = 1225/28 = 43.75, and since that's an upper bound we can take the integer part of 43.

So... where did my reasoning go wrong? Or is it solid, and the information the game gave perhaps wrong? By my calculation, with at least 55 objects this method gives an upper bound of 55, so it's possible the game's statement of '50 objects' really meant 'over 50'.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 17, 2014, 11:18:54 pm
They released Charmeleon? Oh man, that's too good. Sounds like they've not made much progress overnight :P.
I blame Eevee.

Not sure it's going to matter because I don't think they'll ever make it out of silf. co.....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 17, 2014, 11:20:31 pm
I WANT TO GET OFF TEAM ROCKET'S WILD RIDE!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on February 18, 2014, 04:10:12 am
So... where did my reasoning go wrong? Or is it solid, and the information the game gave perhaps wrong?

I'm convinced.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on February 18, 2014, 04:25:20 am
The game is Dobble (Spot It! in the english version I believe). I have no idea about the validity of your reasoning, but maybe that helps you find the way they made it work ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 18, 2014, 09:40:59 am
For some reason, the Twitchplayspokemon stream now  has users vote on the next step instead of executing all commands. Not nearly as cool :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 18, 2014, 09:59:14 am
For some reason, the Twitchplayspokemon stream now  has users vote on the next step instead of executing all commands. Not nearly as cool :(

Not quite. That's because it's in democracy mode. If enough people put in anarchy, it'll go back to it was before. Plus it's still chaos. Half the votes are to push Red into a wall...and they seem to win.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 10:39:10 am
For some reason, the Twitchplayspokemon stream now  has users vote on the next step instead of executing all commands. Not nearly as cool :(

Yeah, this has almost certainly killed my interest in it. Worst thing to wake up to.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 18, 2014, 10:46:43 am
For some reason, the Twitchplayspokemon stream now  has users vote on the next step instead of executing all commands. Not nearly as cool :(

Yeah, this has almost certainly killed my interest in it. Worst thing to wake up to.

I don't think they would have gotten through silph co though. There's just too many dead ends in those pusher mazes. Even with the voting they haven't progressed at all since last night. Like, at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 10:48:49 am
So same result, with less fun. Yeah, it's boring now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 10:59:45 am
More eloquently put, courtesy of a reddit user:

Quote from: 1338h4x
I am utterly appalled that anyone would want to give up and change things now after we've already made it so far. The uncontrollable chaos is the point of this run. If we're just going to sit here and slowly tally up votes so that every step is carefully planned, we might as well be watching a goddamn Let's Play.
We haven't even been on this maze as long as we spent on the ledge. Be fucking patient, as long as there's no failure state we can eventually make it through sheer brute force. There's no time limit, so relax and quit whining.
Come on folks, do you really want to surrender now? That's what Dome wants!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 18, 2014, 11:04:46 am
More eloquently put, courtesy of a reddit user:

Quote from: 1338h4x
I am utterly appalled that anyone would want to give up and change things now after we've already made it so far. The uncontrollable chaos is the point of this run. If we're just going to sit here and slowly tally up votes so that every step is carefully planned, we might as well be watching a goddamn Let's Play.
We haven't even been on this maze as long as we spent on the ledge. Be fucking patient, as long as there's no failure state we can eventually make it through sheer brute force. There's no time limit, so relax and quit whining.
Come on folks, do you really want to surrender now? That's what Dome wants!

Well if it's so bad it'll be taken away. I think it is interesting though how it really doesn't seem to matter. Votes or not, they haven't made any progress over 9 hours.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 11:15:25 am
Well if it's so bad it'll be taken away.

No guarantee there, at all. They switched back to Anarchy for I think ten minutes recently but people keep voting Democracy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 18, 2014, 11:21:49 am
So here's something interesting. I played a game earlier today. Don't remember the name. The basic idea is that there's some cards, each with 8 objects on, and for each possible pair of cards, exactly one object is on both cards, which players are trying to find.

Here are the numbers the rulebook gives: 55 cards, 8 objects on each card, 50 objects total. So naturally, as a mathematician, I decided to try and calculate an upper bound on the possible number of cards (and from there intended to see if I could narrow it down to an actual maximum. And I got 43 as an upper bound, which... well, obviously slightly worried me.

My method was this: One card has eight objects. That means, for any possible pair of two objects on that card, that pair can't appear on another card (or it'd have two objects in common with the first card). As there are eight objects, that means there are (8C2) = 28 different pairs of objects covered, none of which are shared with another card. There are 50 objects total. That means there are (50C2) = 1225 total pairs of objects. So now as every card has 28 unique pairs, we can obtain an upper bound by taking (total no. of object pairs) / (pairs on each card) = 1225/28 = 43.75, and since that's an upper bound we can take the integer part of 43.

So... where did my reasoning go wrong? Or is it solid, and the information the game gave perhaps wrong? By my calculation, with at least 55 objects this method gives an upper bound of 55, so it's possible the game's statement of '50 objects' really meant 'over 50'.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Feliacalderan.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F11%2F12%2Fdobble-visto-da-un-matematico%2F

Google translate isn't perfect, of course.  It appears there must be 57 symbols.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 11:36:21 am
Also this

Quote from: Procrastinare
The stream may be incapable of beating the game, that's part of the fun.
The point wasn't to figure out how to successfully navigate the game, It was to hook the game up to a stream and see what happens. If the end result is 15 days in the arrow maze, so fucking be it, that's the way it went.
Changing the system to be more stable, predictable and controlled defeats the entire novel idea.
Obviously single player is the best way, and pure anarchy is the worst way to progress.
But that's why it's so mind-boggling to make progress, because you made progress despite it being the worst fucking way possible to make progress.
Too many controls in place and it becomes a boring collective let's play, the game gets beat and everyone talks about how amazing it was BEFORE they rigged it for success.
A vote for democracy is a vote to end the original experiment and admit defeat.
I'd rather this stream die in the arrow maze a month from now than to progress through the rest of the game successfully with a different system in place.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 18, 2014, 11:39:13 am
Thye actually made it through the maze, but at least it's back to anarchy mode now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on February 18, 2014, 01:07:56 pm
They got a good idea!  Boycott democracy mode!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 18, 2014, 02:03:36 pm
start9
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on February 18, 2014, 02:32:54 pm
For some reason, the Twitchplayspokemon stream now  has users vote on the next step instead of executing all commands. Not nearly as cool :(

Yeah, this has almost certainly killed my interest in it. Worst thing to wake up to.

I don't think they would have gotten through silph co though. There's just too many dead ends in those pusher mazes. Even with the voting they haven't progressed at all since last night. Like, at all.

Right, but it would have been interesting to see how it progresses. Do they eventually get lucky and make it through with 50k watching?  Does interest die down enough that less people can make it through?  How many people until its manageable?  But now we won't ever find out.

The vote is boring, and a cop out to maintain interest. The focus is on maintaining popularity, when its not as interesting as it could be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on February 18, 2014, 03:30:28 pm
rrenaud hosted "RobCon" this past weekend.  It was a huge success and if any of you in your gaming group is a natural event planner, you should look into it.  Rent a house in a nice location for a weekend, have people bring games, play games nonstop for a few days, divide up the costs.  It's a ton of fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 18, 2014, 04:00:27 pm
whoa.  That sounds awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 18, 2014, 04:04:35 pm
Was democracy mode a choice made by the viewers or by the creator of the stream?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 04:13:01 pm
Was democracy mode a choice made by the viewers or by the creator of the stream?

The creator changed the system to democracy this morning (from a US timezone point of view). After awhile, he then changed it again to the "vote on anarchy/democracy" system. It seems clear people now want to do everything hard on "easy" (democracy) mode immediately. It's horrible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 18, 2014, 04:16:52 pm
Well, from the creator's point of view, I kind of get it. Yeah it's a cop out, but I'm sure, from his point of view, maintaining the maximum amount of viewers is of utmost importance. The inability to get past silph would create a large drop in viewers after a day or two.

I'm surprised it hasn't been changed over to sub mode only chat by this point, that's how he'll really rake in the money.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 04:18:54 pm
I'm surprised it hasn't been changed over to sub mode only chat by this point, that's how he'll really rake in the money.

Huh?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 18, 2014, 04:20:09 pm
For some reason, the Twitchplayspokemon stream now  has users vote on the next step instead of executing all commands. Not nearly as cool :(

Yeah, this has almost certainly killed my interest in it. Worst thing to wake up to.

I don't think they would have gotten through silph co though. There's just too many dead ends in those pusher mazes. Even with the voting they haven't progressed at all since last night. Like, at all.

They would have made it through eventually.  The ledges of route 9 are probably more difficult than Silph Co. 

The voting system doesn't help that much because there is still the delay to contend with, and there are also people protesting democracy by spamming start9.

I think the most intervention they need is to disable Start for certain sections (which had been done previously for a few sections of the game).  Maybe try Democracy if they can't get Surf after a week.

Well, from the creator's point of view, I kind of get it. Yeah it's a cop out, but I'm sure, from his point of view, maintaining the maximum amount of viewers is of utmost importance. The inability to get past silph would create a large drop in viewers after a day or two.

I'm surprised it hasn't been changed over to sub mode only chat by this point, that's how he'll really rake in the money.

I'm not convinced by that.  They were stuck on Route 9 for much longer and viewership only increased.

Switching to sub-only would probably drop interest and push people to switch to the free clones.
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Post by: Kirian on February 18, 2014, 04:23:19 pm
rrenaud hosted "RobCon" this past weekend.  It was a huge success and if any of you in your gaming group is a natural event planner, you should look into it.  Rent a house in a nice location for a weekend, have people bring games, play games nonstop for a few days, divide up the costs.  It's a ton of fun.

How many people did you end up with?
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Post by: Twistedarcher on February 18, 2014, 04:24:28 pm
I'm surprised it hasn't been changed over to sub mode only chat by this point, that's how he'll really rake in the money.

Huh?

I'm assuming its not already (I don't have an account so I haven't checked) but a lot of streams will make it so only subscribers can chat, with a subscription costing like $3-$7 dollars... This is used on a lot of the big league of legends streamers to reduce chat spam.
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Post by: Twistedarcher on February 18, 2014, 04:32:25 pm
Quote from: eHalycon
Well, from the creator's point of view, I kind of get it. Yeah it's a cop out, but I'm sure, from his point of view, maintaining the maximum amount of viewers is of utmost importance. The inability to get past silph would create a large drop in viewers after a day or two.

I'm surprised it hasn't been changed over to sub mode only chat by this point, that's how he'll really rake in the money.

I'm not convinced by that.  They were stuck on Route 9 for much longer and viewership only increased.

Switching to sub-only would probably drop interest and push people to switch to the free clones.

Well I feel like a lot of that was from new people discovering the stream -- at this point, it's been all over the major social media sites, so the amount of people discovering the stream for the first time is probably declining. I am sure the high viewership is coming almost as much from recycling viewers rather than maintaining the same ones -- and the same viewers would drop off after 48 hours in the same place, I think.

Yeah sub mode only would drive people away mostly, but it also allows people a chance to have a much higher impact. I could imagine many people preferring this mode with 5000 than 50000 viewers (or however many subscribe). And getting 10% to pay money may be better than having no one pay.

Ultimately it comes down to if the creator wants to just run this as an experiment or attempt to monetize it, which no one but him really knows. But the change to democracy mode indicates that maintaining viewership is maybe more important than keeping it as a pure experiment.
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Post by: Watno on February 18, 2014, 04:33:10 pm
Quote from: FAQ
Subscribers

Subscribers do not get to bypass the slow mode restrictions on chat. The reason for this is because unlike most Twitch streams the chat is an critical component of the content. I think it's best if everyone has the same capacity of input.

I've previously considered enabling sub-only mode for short moments to overcome difficult sections but I've cooled off on that idea and doubt I will consider it again.

Please don't subscribe with the expectation of special treatment. Please subscribe with the expectation of supporting something you like.

I don't want to add emotes because that would give favoritism to particular memes, hindering the growth of new memes and causing stagnation.
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Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 04:33:41 pm
They're ripping through everything on democracy mode now. The soul of the thing is dead, gone, trampled, eaten, spit out, pointless.
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Post by: Twistedarcher on February 18, 2014, 05:06:03 pm
Yeah...what I said should be ignored...I had no idea it was up to 100k viewers, I thought it was still hovering at 50-60k.
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Post by: Thisisnotasmile on February 18, 2014, 05:19:34 pm
Yeah...what I said should be ignored...I had no idea it was up to 100k viewers, I thought it was still hovering at 50-60k.

Today's article on the BBC website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26240191) probably has something to do with that.
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Post by: theory on February 18, 2014, 05:23:51 pm
rrenaud hosted "RobCon" this past weekend.  It was a huge success and if any of you in your gaming group is a natural event planner, you should look into it.  Rent a house in a nice location for a weekend, have people bring games, play games nonstop for a few days, divide up the costs.  It's a ton of fun.

How many people did you end up with?

20 or so

We also hired a chef.  Makes each meal cost ~$20pp but it meant amazing food and ability to satisfy everyone's food desires/restrictions, as opposed to pizza for every meal which is maybe $5pp.  Plus this chef happened to play Magic and participated in cube draft.

whoa.  That sounds awesome.

It was super awesome.  Played a whole bunch of long games you otherwise don't really get a chance to play.  Logistics suck a little bit but not enough to dissuade us from doing it again.
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 18, 2014, 05:44:01 pm
They're ripping through everything on democracy mode now. The soul of the thing is dead, gone, trampled, eaten, spit out, pointless.

They seem firmly set in Anarchy for now.  The Google doc says that the current goal is to get to Giovanni in Rocket HQ and they are currently wandering the streets.  What did they rip through in Democracy mode?

I think the main problem now is that too many people are busy typing democracy/anarchy instead of spamming button inputs.  But it's hard to tell...
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Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 05:59:04 pm
They're ripping through everything on democracy mode now. The soul of the thing is dead, gone, trampled, eaten, spit out, pointless.

They seem firmly set in Anarchy for now.  The Google doc says that the current goal is to get to Giovanni in Rocket HQ and they are currently wandering the streets.  What did they rip through in Democracy mode?

I think the main problem now is that too many people are busy typing democracy/anarchy instead of spamming button inputs.  But it's hard to tell...

The maze/lift key situation all happened under Democracy. They beat the maze (after lots of mode switching) this afternoon in like 15 minutes under Democracy.
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Post by: A Drowned Kernel on February 18, 2014, 06:03:22 pm
I was hoping that this (twitch plays pokemon) would be what people were talking about in this thread. I just heard about this yesterday and it's most majestic thing I've ever seen.
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Post by: sudgy on February 18, 2014, 06:05:10 pm
They're ripping through everything on democracy mode now. The soul of the thing is dead, gone, trampled, eaten, spit out, pointless.

They seem firmly set in Anarchy for now.  The Google doc says that the current goal is to get to Giovanni in Rocket HQ and they are currently wandering the streets.  What did they rip through in Democracy mode?

I think the main problem now is that too many people are busy typing democracy/anarchy instead of spamming button inputs.  But it's hard to tell...

They made it through the maze, then my internet connection died slightly after they beat someone at the top of the elevator.  I'm thinking they accidentally used dig (they had gone back to anarchy mode).
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Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 06:06:53 pm
Better summary of the problem:

Quote
5d20h4m: The maze is complete on democracy mode.
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Post by: dondon151 on February 18, 2014, 06:17:12 pm
Who wants to bet that this is someone's Ph.D. thesis in social psychology?
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Post by: SirPeebles on February 18, 2014, 06:25:25 pm
Who wants to bet that this is someone's Ph.D. thesis in social psychology?

Seems more like a Master's thesis to me.
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Post by: Watno on February 18, 2014, 06:27:20 pm
I was hoping that this (twitch plays pokemon) would be what people were talking about in this thread. I just heard about this yesterday and it's most majestic thing I've ever seen.
Too bad you didn't see the part when it was even more awesome.

What are they even trying to do now?
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Post by: Teproc on February 18, 2014, 06:30:48 pm
I tried watching it, and I found it very boring. Cool idea in theory, but in practice... meh. Maybe it's because I don't follow what's going on really. I played the yellow version back then but I apparently don't remember much about the game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on February 18, 2014, 06:32:25 pm
Who wants to bet that this is someone's Ph.D. thesis in social psychology?

Seems more like a Master's thesis to me.

M.S., Science: The highest academic credential most frequently held by plaintiffs' expert witnesses on medical causation issues in mass tort litigation. (http://books.google.com/books?id=x1gjXcLLS1cC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&#v=onepage&q&f=false)
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Post by: SirPeebles on February 18, 2014, 07:04:59 pm
Who wants to bet that this is someone's Ph.D. thesis in social psychology?

Seems more like a Master's thesis to me.

M.S., Science: The highest academic credential most frequently held by plaintiffs' expert witnesses on medical causation issues in mass tort litigation. (http://books.google.com/books?id=x1gjXcLLS1cC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&#v=onepage&q&f=false)

Phew.  I think my Master's degree is an MA.
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Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 07:30:07 pm
Fifteen minutes to get the elevator to work in anarchy, so they Democracy to the right floor and walk out of the elevator to the next battle. LAME
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 18, 2014, 07:42:29 pm
How does the voting work?  I just checked the stream and they are in Anarchy, with the meter right in the middle (Anarchy is in effect for up to 3/4 of the meter).  Does the meter move for every command, or does it actually track each individual voter so that one person can't bump the meter so far on his own?  It just seems to hover in the middle almost always so I don't see how they would switch to Democracy and then switch back so quickly if it doesn't do any voter tracking.
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 18, 2014, 07:53:58 pm
They just lost to Giovanni.  It was insanely close.  Pidgeot took out Onix and Rhydon.  Against Kangaskhan, they switched out to Drowzee and let Giovanni get a free Guard Spec use.  Drowzee fainted after only one weak Pound, then Pidgeot came back in.  Kangaskhan had already gotten a couple attack boosts from Rage.  Pidgeot survived three more Rages (including a crit) and would have won with 1HP remaining if they hadn't selected Whirlwind twice.
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Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 07:55:24 pm
Not super-sure of the specifics, but if one reaches a critical mass the system switches. Anarchy is almost always used in battle because it's more "fun" and you still win. Democracy is used, at this point, anytime anything slightly tricky needs to happen.
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 18, 2014, 07:58:18 pm
So if it hits the 3/4 mark, it switches to Democracy and then you need 3/4 to switch back to Anarchy?  OK.

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Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 07:58:23 pm
The reddit livestream agrees:

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5d:23h:30m With TPP back outside, the black bar now slowly creeps towards Democracy. It appears that anarchy is only favored for battles.

I picked the wrong time to start loving/caring about this. Literally 12 hours or so before its soul died. I'm stepping away from the computer so I can try to rejoin humanity.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on February 18, 2014, 07:58:35 pm
So if it hits the 3/4 mark, it switches to Democracy and then you need 3/4 to switch back to Anarchy?  OK.

Correct.
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Post by: Tables on February 18, 2014, 08:14:15 pm
At first when I saw Democracy I thought, that's really cool and will make things way more interesting.

Then I saw 30 seconds of gameplay under Democracy, and said my first two things during the stream: "anarchy" and "start9".
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 18, 2014, 09:36:19 pm
Democracy mode kicked in, but barely managed to take 5 steps until start9 took over.  Still, as the system re-approached Anarchy, the pro-Democracy players spammed left to get Red back into the maze just as Anarchy resumed.  Anarchy managed to escape the maze, then returned to the game corner for a while.  Eventually they managed to get down to Giovanni.  And then Dig was used, so now they are back outside. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 18, 2014, 09:41:21 pm
I don't think much progress is going to be made until Democracy is completely removed. But in an ironic way, that's kind of just as inefficient as the system once was.
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Post by: nkirbit on February 18, 2014, 10:08:49 pm
So I wonder if they'll use the master ball on a crappy pokemon, or if they'll toss it out.
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Post by: Kuildeous on February 18, 2014, 10:12:58 pm
At first, one would be tempted to dismiss Captain Supermarket as just an error in translation, but when you see that Ash is standing atop a mountain of Campbell soup cans in some Inception/John Malkovich sort of magical meta, you start to wonder if this poster may be the most genius thing in existence.






(http://leveluprogueadvisor.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/armyofdarknesscaptainsupermarket.jpg)
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Post by: Kirian on February 18, 2014, 10:44:04 pm
rrenaud hosted "RobCon" this past weekend.  It was a huge success and if any of you in your gaming group is a natural event planner, you should look into it.  Rent a house in a nice location for a weekend, have people bring games, play games nonstop for a few days, divide up the costs.  It's a ton of fun.

How many people did you end up with?

20 or so

We also hired a chef.  Makes each meal cost ~$20pp but it meant amazing food and ability to satisfy everyone's food desires/restrictions, as opposed to pizza for every meal which is maybe $5pp.  Plus this chef happened to play Magic and participated in cube draft.

whoa.  That sounds awesome.

It was super awesome.  Played a whole bunch of long games you otherwise don't really get a chance to play.  Logistics suck a little bit but not enough to dissuade us from doing it again.

This sounds completely super sweet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 19, 2014, 03:00:15 am
Twitch plays Pokemon plays Tetris.  http://www.twitch.tv/xkeeper_

Wow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 19, 2014, 08:19:44 am
You knew it was coming.

Twitch plays Cookie Clicker http://www.twitch.tv/pk_kolo9
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Post by: Voltaire on February 19, 2014, 10:24:11 am
I don't think much progress is going to be made until Democracy is completely removed. But in an ironic way, that's kind of just as inefficient as the system once was.

Of course, efficiency is not, and never was, the point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on February 19, 2014, 11:40:04 am
But what are they going to do about clicking golden cookies?  avoiding Communal Brainsweep?

And they can't sell buildings...
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Post by: Kirian on February 19, 2014, 01:08:07 pm
Quick, someone set up a "twitch plays nethack.". That should be good for a few hundred YASD.
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Post by: jonts26 on February 19, 2014, 01:10:43 pm
This is getting out of hand.

http://www.twitch.tv/probabilitygaming
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Post by: Dsell on February 19, 2014, 05:52:19 pm
I've watched all 4 seasons of the new Battlestar Galactica since the Battlestar Galactica forum game started here.


...and I took an eight month break in the middle...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 19, 2014, 07:24:52 pm
If you ever need an interesting name: http://benedictcumberbatchgenerator.tumblr.com/
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Post by: SirPeebles on February 19, 2014, 08:04:16 pm
http://happyplace.someecards.com/29431/a-dad-posted-a-picture-of-his-baby-on-facebook-and-then-his-friend-turned-it-into-a-huge-new-meme

(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2014/02/5304df735a27b.jpg)

How can we dominion-ify the Business Baby meme?
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Post by: KingZog3 on February 19, 2014, 08:38:29 pm
http://happyplace.someecards.com/29431/a-dad-posted-a-picture-of-his-baby-on-facebook-and-then-his-friend-turned-it-into-a-huge-new-meme

(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2014/02/5304df735a27b.jpg)

How can we dominion-ify the Business Baby meme?

I think I'll overpay for Masterpiece. But keep in mind I can only count to three.
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Post by: Kirian on February 19, 2014, 08:46:52 pm
http://happyplace.someecards.com/29431/a-dad-posted-a-picture-of-his-baby-on-facebook-and-then-his-friend-turned-it-into-a-huge-new-meme

(http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2014/02/5304df735a27b.jpg)

How can we dominion-ify the Business Baby meme?

Did anyone else read the captioned memes in Cave Johnson's voice?
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 20, 2014, 11:19:30 pm
Not sure if you guys want updates or not, but the best thing just happened in TPP.  Red manages to traverse the four routes (12-15) from Lavender to Fuschia, including a dreaded fence maze.  All have fainted except for Pidgeot, who hangs on with 16HP.

Oh hey, what's this building beside the Pokemon Center.  The Gym?  Let's go in there... and get in a battle.

Pidgeot actually manages to win, but gets poisoned.  Can Red make it to the Pokemon Center before Pidgeot expires?

NOPE.  Red blacks out, ends up back in Lavender Town.  :D
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Post by: Tables on February 20, 2014, 11:40:25 pm
I was there for basically the whole Lavender event. Sadly, we almost hit Democracy during it. Fortunately, we didn't.
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Post by: Voltaire on February 20, 2014, 11:44:55 pm
I was there for basically the whole Lavender event. Sadly, we almost hit Democracy during it. Fortunately, we didn't.

I had "start9" queued up in the clipboard.
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 21, 2014, 01:35:11 am
I was there for basically the whole Lavender event. Sadly, we almost hit Democracy during it. Fortunately, we didn't.

The percentages have apparently been changed though.  80% to get into Democracy mode, but in that mode you only need like 50% to get back?  Not sure.

Edit:  Yeah, 80/50.  They are in Demo mode now.  I'm OK with it for this particular juncture, because they plan to go through safari zone.  They are not IN the safari though, so this is very annoying.

Edit: And back to Anarchy almost immediately. :)
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Post by: KingZog3 on February 21, 2014, 10:10:30 am
I was there for basically the whole Lavender event. Sadly, we almost hit Democracy during it. Fortunately, we didn't.

The percentages have apparently been changed though.  80% to get into Democracy mode, but in that mode you only need like 50% to get back?  Not sure.

Edit:  Yeah, 80/50.  They are in Demo mode now.  I'm OK with it for this particular juncture, because they plan to go through safari zone.  They are not IN the safari though, so this is very annoying.

Edit: And back to Anarchy almost immediately. :)

They're in Safari zone with democracy. I think it would literally be impossible to make it through Safari one without some organization.
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Post by: Kuildeous on February 21, 2014, 12:27:42 pm
Ah, the potentially risky behavior of correcting your boss's grammar. Wish me luck.
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Post by: Kirian on February 21, 2014, 02:57:27 pm
I suppose this was inevitable:

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/first_date.png)
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Post by: Axxle on February 21, 2014, 03:13:11 pm
Thanks, democracy

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/q71/s720x720/1622047_716641421690094_2129659610_n.jpg)
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 21, 2014, 03:20:37 pm
It was needed for Safari Zone though.  Step counter is a near-impossible hurdle for the hivemind, and repeated tries will drain money, which is finite in the game without Pay Day.  The ROM being used is allegedly hacked to have all 151 available, except suspicions are high that that's not true... in which case, there are no Meowth to be caught.  There is a TM for it, but that could easily be tossed or overwritten.

So yeah, I think Demo mode was good for this ONE part.  Nowhere else though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 21, 2014, 03:38:29 pm
Also, i would have preferred the option of disabling the step counter which was talked about.

What are they trying to do right now?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 21, 2014, 04:10:50 pm
http://www.twitch.tv/rngplayspokemon
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Post by: Axxle on February 21, 2014, 04:43:26 pm
http://www.twitch.tv/rngplayspokemon
"RNGPlaysPokemon playing Pokémon Red/Blue "

Lies. That's Gold/Silver.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 21, 2014, 05:15:24 pm
Also, i would have preferred the option of disabling the step counter which was talked about.

What are they trying to do right now?

The current major goal is Silph Co.  Minor goal is to level up Drowzee without evolving it so that it will learn Psychic earlier (and have a second chance at Psychic as Hypno if it isn't learned the first time).  They'll also want to get Lapras while in Silph Co. and they actually have a free space in their party right now.  They just have to avoid filling it.
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Post by: Witherweaver on February 21, 2014, 05:25:03 pm
So when is Twitch going to play Dominion?
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Post by: KingZog3 on February 21, 2014, 05:28:39 pm
Also, i would have preferred the option of disabling the step counter which was talked about.

What are they trying to do right now?

The current major goal is Silph Co.  Minor goal is to level up Drowzee without evolving it so that it will learn Psychic earlier (and have a second chance at Psychic as Hypno if it isn't learned the first time).  They'll also want to get Lapras while in Silph Co. and they actually have a free space in their party right now.  They just have to avoid filling it.

I thought they went through Silph co. Or did they just leave and not finish it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 21, 2014, 05:44:39 pm
Also, i would have preferred the option of disabling the step counter which was talked about.

What are they trying to do right now?

The current major goal is Silph Co.  Minor goal is to level up Drowzee without evolving it so that it will learn Psychic earlier (and have a second chance at Psychic as Hypno if it isn't learned the first time).  They'll also want to get Lapras while in Silph Co. and they actually have a free space in their party right now.  They just have to avoid filling it.

I thought they went through Silph co. Or did they just leave and not finish it?

According to the live updates on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/live/sw7bubeycai6hey4ciytwamw3a), this is their second time in the building.  I think they blacked out in a battle during the first attempt.
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Post by: KingZog3 on February 21, 2014, 07:24:25 pm
THEY DID IT!!!! THEY GOT LAPRAS!!! It's nickname is AIIIIIIIIIRR
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Post by: scott_pilgrim on February 21, 2014, 08:58:49 pm
So when is Twitch going to play Dominion?

And then they could have an rngplaysdominion channel too!  Oh wait, that's just Goko's bots...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 21, 2014, 10:41:27 pm
So when is Twitch going to play Dominion?
Play: Copper
Buy: Curse
Buy: Curse
Buy: Copper
Play: Copper
Buy: Copper
Play: Copper
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 22, 2014, 12:09:12 am
THEY DID IT!!!! THEY GOT LAPRAS!!! It's nickname is AIIIIIIIIIRR

They are having a lot of trouble in their attempts to teach her Surf and Strength.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 23, 2014, 08:46:46 pm
Oxford comma: yes or no?
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Post by: shraeye on February 23, 2014, 08:49:10 pm
yes; it's correct, clear, and stylish.
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Post by: sudgy on February 23, 2014, 08:52:04 pm
Yes.

Back to TPP, they just released 12 pokemon earlier today.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 23, 2014, 08:52:28 pm
Oxford comma: yes or no?

Yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: raerae on February 23, 2014, 09:00:36 pm
yes; it's correct, clear, and stylish.

You're the best.  Get out.  Now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 23, 2014, 09:12:19 pm
Yes.

Back to TPP, they just released 12 pokemon earlier today.

I've heard the event is already being called Black Sunday. I'm not really sure how they managed it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 23, 2014, 09:42:48 pm
Yes.

Back to TPP, they just released 12 pokemon earlier today.

I've heard the event is already being called Black Sunday. I'm not really sure how they managed it.
From what I heard a different streamer is trying to get his followers to sabotage it using democracy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on February 23, 2014, 10:20:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_i1xk07o4g
I apologize for mildly strong language.

I for one support the usage oxford commas.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on February 23, 2014, 10:35:25 pm
Oxford comma: yes or no?

I'm not a man with very many strong convictions. I understand that people come from many different backgrounds and believe many different things and I'm willing to let a lot of things slide when I disagree with someone because we are all part of this strange, frustrating, wonderful human race living in this mixed up world. But if you tell me you are against the oxford comma, I will find out where you live, come to your house and burn it to the ground with you and everything and everyone you care about still inside.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 23, 2014, 10:48:23 pm
I am a fan of the oxford comma, I've just seen so many people against it which baffles me and wanted to get more opinions as to why.

(http://www.educationconnection.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/OxfordComma1.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 23, 2014, 11:00:40 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 23, 2014, 11:02:14 pm
Yes.

Back to TPP, they just released 12 pokemon earlier today.

I've heard the event is already being called Black Sunday. I'm not really sure how they managed it.
From what I heard a different streamer is trying to get his followers to sabotage it using democracy.

And he was doing it just after they had caught Zapdos (using the Master Ball).  The hivemind was attempting to withdraw Zapdos.  They managed it, but deposited a bunch of things in the process.  Then some things got released as they tried to withdraw.  Zapdos got deposited again, last I checked.  It also doesn't help that they have (had?) enough pokemon that they have flowed into Box 2.
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Post by: sudgy on February 24, 2014, 12:15:50 am
Yes.

Back to TPP, they just released 12 pokemon earlier today.

I've heard the event is already being called Black Sunday. I'm not really sure how they managed it.

I heard it was Bloody Sunday.  It was mostly unused ones, but Cabbage, DUX, and DigRat were released.  DigRat I already had a love/hate relationship with anyway, Cabbage wasn't really used much (although my brother liked him), but DUX is the main one that hurt.  Now they have nobody with Cut.
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Post by: Axxle on February 24, 2014, 12:48:28 am
Yes.

Back to TPP, they just released 12 pokemon earlier today.

I've heard the event is already being called Black Sunday. I'm not really sure how they managed it.

I heard it was Bloody Sunday.  It was mostly unused ones, but Cabbage, DUX, and DigRat were released.  DigRat I already had a love/hate relationship with anyway, Cabbage wasn't really used much (although my brother liked him), but DUX is the main one that hurt.  Now they have nobody with Cut.
Do they need cut anymore? They can always try to grab a nidoran from the pc though that might get another bloody day.
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Post by: eHalcyon on February 24, 2014, 01:09:04 am
Yes.

Back to TPP, they just released 12 pokemon earlier today.

I've heard the event is already being called Black Sunday. I'm not really sure how they managed it.

I heard it was Bloody Sunday.  It was mostly unused ones, but Cabbage, DUX, and DigRat were released.  DigRat I already had a love/hate relationship with anyway, Cabbage wasn't really used much (although my brother liked him), but DUX is the main one that hurt.  Now they have nobody with Cut.
Do they need cut anymore? They can always try to grab a nidoran from the pc though that might get another bloody day.

They actually had Nidorino (nicknamed The Fonz?) in their party, last I checked.  Zapdos got withdrawn though, and Gastly got left at the Daycare.  I think a fair amount of that was done under Democracy though.

Not sure if they'll need Cut again, but right now they are taking the long way around to get to Cinnabar.  Going backwards through Mt. Moon right now, I think.
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Post by: florrat on February 24, 2014, 01:42:28 am
Didn't know that such a big majority (of the people posted their opinion so far) favors the Oxford comma. Personally I don't care, but I've grown up in the first 22 years of my life not knowing there was such a thing as an Oxford comma (because it isn't used in Dutch), so I never use it.
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Post by: Awaclus on February 24, 2014, 02:15:35 am
Oxford comma: yes or no?
Depends on the list!
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Post by: shraeye on February 24, 2014, 07:21:50 am
Oxford comma: yes or no?

I'm not a man with very many strong convictions. I understand that people come from many different backgrounds and believe many different things and I'm willing to let a lot of things slide when I disagree with someone because we are all part of this strange, frustrating, wonderful human race living in this mixed up world. But if you tell me you are against the oxford comma, I will find out where you live, come to your houSE ANd burn it to the ground with you and everything and everyone you care about still inside.
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Post by: Witherweaver on February 24, 2014, 09:25:13 am
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.

We should have simply designed a language where all lists are comma-delimited and their and/or aspect is determined at the start of the list, like:

\/(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., OR a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

/\(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., AND a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

no need for confusion or ambiguities.
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Post by: Kirian on February 24, 2014, 09:44:45 am
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.

We should have simply designed a language where all lists are comma-delimited and their and/or aspect is determined at the start of the list, like:

\/(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., OR a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

/\(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., AND a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

no need for confusion or ambiguities.

No trying to turn English into Lojban.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 24, 2014, 10:05:33 am
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.

We should have simply designed a language where all lists are comma-delimited and their and/or aspect is determined at the start of the list, like:

\/(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., OR a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

/\(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., AND a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

no need for confusion or ambiguities.

No confusions but also really hard to read if the list has like 7 or 8 or more things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 24, 2014, 10:07:33 am
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.

We should have simply designed a language where all lists are comma-delimited and their and/or aspect is determined at the start of the list, like:

\/(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., OR a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

/\(a_i, i=1..n) [i.e., AND a_1, a_2, ..., a_n]

no need for confusion or ambiguities.

No trying to turn English into Lojban.

Ha, neat; I've never heard of this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 24, 2014, 02:00:09 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 24, 2014, 02:05:27 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

That's fair.  I don't really mind when people use the Oxford comma.  I'm actually a bit inconsistent with it when the sentence is clear either way.  I just don't like it when people say that it's always right, because it isn't.  Bringing up examples of ambiguity without it (like that popular strippers picture you posted) is a pet peeve of mine because there are also examples where adding the Oxford comma creates ambiguity. 
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Post by: KingZog3 on February 24, 2014, 02:09:05 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

That's fair.  I don't really mind when people use the Oxford comma.  I'm actually a bit inconsistent with it when the sentence is clear either way.  I just don't like it when people say that it's always right, because it isn't.  Bringing up examples of ambiguity without it (like that popular strippers picture you posted) is a pet peeve of mine because there are also examples where adding the Oxford comma creates ambiguity.

Such as? I do agree with you, but i can't think of an example.
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Post by: Thisisnotasmile on February 24, 2014, 02:18:37 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

You put the word "and" between the last and second to last objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the first and second.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on February 24, 2014, 02:23:28 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

That's fair.  I don't really mind when people use the Oxford comma.  I'm actually a bit inconsistent with it when the sentence is clear either way.  I just don't like it when people say that it's always right, because it isn't.  Bringing up examples of ambiguity without it (like that popular strippers picture you posted) is a pet peeve of mine because there are also examples where adding the Oxford comma creates ambiguity.

Such as? I do agree with you, but i can't think of an example.
I went to the restaurant with Santa Claus, my son, and Miles Davis.

Did I go to the restaurant with three people or with Miles Davis and my son who is Santa Claus?
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Post by: Witherweaver on February 24, 2014, 02:23:43 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

That's fair.  I don't really mind when people use the Oxford comma.  I'm actually a bit inconsistent with it when the sentence is clear either way.  I just don't like it when people say that it's always right, because it isn't.  Bringing up examples of ambiguity without it (like that popular strippers picture you posted) is a pet peeve of mine because there are also examples where adding the Oxford comma creates ambiguity.

Such as? I do agree with you, but i can't think of an example.

The classic example is

"To my mother, Ayn Rand, and God."

It's ambiguous whether Ayn Rand is the mother or one of three in the dedication.  The wikipedia page goes into it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 24, 2014, 02:25:11 pm
In general, the "right" thing to do is to reword the statements so there isn't this kind of ambiguity, with or without serial commas.
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Post by: Axxle on February 24, 2014, 02:31:44 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

That's fair.  I don't really mind when people use the Oxford comma.  I'm actually a bit inconsistent with it when the sentence is clear either way.  I just don't like it when people say that it's always right, because it isn't.  Bringing up examples of ambiguity without it (like that popular strippers picture you posted) is a pet peeve of mine because there are also examples where adding the Oxford comma creates ambiguity.

Such as? I do agree with you, but i can't think of an example.

The classic example is

"To my mother, Ayn Rand, and God."

It's ambiguous whether Ayn Rand is the mother or one of three in the dedication.  The wikipedia page goes into it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma.
Honestly serial vs nonserial commas this seems to be more of a problem with using comma to clarify an object ("my mother, Ayn Rand, and God") instead of using something else like "my mother — Ayn Rand — and God" or "my mother (Ayn Rand) and God"*. That's where the confusion lies.

*Not sure if any of my alternatives are actually grammatically correct.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on February 24, 2014, 03:08:57 pm
I love ambiguity, though.
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Post by: jonts26 on February 24, 2014, 03:26:36 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

That's fair.  I don't really mind when people use the Oxford comma.  I'm actually a bit inconsistent with it when the sentence is clear either way.  I just don't like it when people say that it's always right, because it isn't.  Bringing up examples of ambiguity without it (like that popular strippers picture you posted) is a pet peeve of mine because there are also examples where adding the Oxford comma creates ambiguity.

I don't know of anyone who argues that the oxford comma is always right. But the times where it is more ambiguous than not using it in real language are really quite rare.
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Post by: jonts26 on February 24, 2014, 03:27:59 pm
Oxford comma: yes or no?

I'm not a man with very many strong convictions. I understand that people come from many different backgrounds and believe many different things and I'm willing to let a lot of things slide when I disagree with someone because we are all part of this strange, frustrating, wonderful human race living in this mixed up world. But if you tell me you are against the oxford comma, I will find out where you live, come to your houSE ANd burn it to the ground with you and everything and everyone you care about still inside.

I actually did that on purpose to see if anyone caught it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 24, 2014, 04:59:18 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

That's fair.  I don't really mind when people use the Oxford comma.  I'm actually a bit inconsistent with it when the sentence is clear either way.  I just don't like it when people say that it's always right, because it isn't.  Bringing up examples of ambiguity without it (like that popular strippers picture you posted) is a pet peeve of mine because there are also examples where adding the Oxford comma creates ambiguity.

I don't know of anyone who argues that the oxford comma is always right. But the times where it is more ambiguous than not using it in real language are really quite rare.

I see it argued often enough, and that is the implication made by images like the one Axxle posted.  In my experience, the times where not using it is more ambiguous than using it are equally rare.  That is to say, it usually doesn't matter whether you use it or not.  It should therefore come down to personal preference, or formal style guidelines if you are writing something that is supposed to conform to such guides.  If you prefer to use the Oxford comma, that's perfectly fine.  I just don't like it when people suggest that omitting it is wrong or somehow less proper.

To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying that anybody in this thread has been condescending in any way, and I can accept any jabs that may have been made as light-hearted commentary.  I know nobody here means any harm.  But I've actually seen debates about the Oxford comma get deadly serious.  The Oxford comma is just not so important as some like to argue.



Now, to relieve some tension, I direct you all to Sir David Attenborough's narration of... curling (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/19/sir-david-attenborough-olympic-curling_n_4818347.html).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on February 24, 2014, 08:25:15 pm
The thing I hate about Oxford comma apologists is that they always imply or explicitly say that the Oxford comma removes ambiguity (and it often comes across a bit obnoxious or pretentious).  It's happened in this very thread.  But the thing is, it's untrue.  There are situations where the Oxford comma helps, but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity.  Formal writing should always seek to minimize ambiguity and therefore it should use or omit the Oxford comma as necessary.

In the case where the Oxford comma makes no different, I usually prefer to leave it out.  If it doesn't remove ambiguity, it's just useless ornamentation.

Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.
You put a comma between the first and second objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the last and second to last.  That might just be my slight OCD talking though.

You put the word "and" between the last and second to last objects in the list, it makes sense to put it between the first and second.

"lions and tigers and bears"

So, this is the argument I heard for not using the oxford comma. The comma replaces each instance of "and" in the list. You don't replace the last "and", so no comma is needed.

"lions, tigers and bears"

However, I am definitely an oxford comma user.

The ambiguities that are created by its use are almost exclusively because of parentheticals which can be very easily re-punctuated or moved around in a sentence.

"I have visited Ohio (my home state), California, and Massachusetts in the United States; Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Ontario in Canada; and Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos Islands, and Antigua and Barbuda in the Caribbean."

Edit: Oxford comma or serial comma?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: greatexpectations on February 24, 2014, 09:06:20 pm
I went to the restaurant with Santa Claus, my son, and Miles Davis.

sounds like a fun holiday sequel for weekend at bernies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 24, 2014, 09:11:55 pm
Helix fossil plush: http://silkencat.deviantart.com/art/Helix-Fossil-Plush-436109308
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 24, 2014, 09:15:00 pm
Helix fossil plush: http://silkencat.deviantart.com/art/Helix-Fossil-Plush-436109308

I... don't get it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: greatexpectations on February 24, 2014, 09:30:24 pm
Helix fossil plush: http://silkencat.deviantart.com/art/Helix-Fossil-Plush-436109308

I... don't get it.

f.DS : scout jokes : : twitch plays pokemon : helix fossil jokes
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 24, 2014, 09:33:03 pm
The ambiguities that are created by its use are almost exclusively because of parentheticals which can be very easily re-punctuated or moved around in a sentence.

The same thing can be said about ambiguities created by omitting the Oxford comma.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on February 24, 2014, 09:39:58 pm
The ambiguities that are created by its use are almost exclusively because of parentheticals which can be very easily re-punctuated or moved around in a sentence.

The same thing can be said about ambiguities created by omitting the Oxford comma.

The point is that there are more ambiguities from not using the Oxford commas in addition to parentheticals (esp. items with "and" in them) that are not so easily dealt with. So I agree with jonts that there are "more" cases of ambiguity to be resolved by not using the comma.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 24, 2014, 09:43:51 pm
Helix fossil plush: http://silkencat.deviantart.com/art/Helix-Fossil-Plush-436109308

I... don't get it.

f.DS : scout jokes : : twitch plays pokemon : helix fossil jokes

Ah, I see.  I think.  Are there ammonite pokemon?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 24, 2014, 09:56:29 pm
Helix fossil plush: http://silkencat.deviantart.com/art/Helix-Fossil-Plush-436109308

I... don't get it.

f.DS : scout jokes : : twitch plays pokemon : helix fossil jokes

Ah, I see.  I think.  Are there ammonite pokemon?

The Helix fossil turns into one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 24, 2014, 09:59:14 pm
The ambiguities that are created by its use are almost exclusively because of parentheticals which can be very easily re-punctuated or moved around in a sentence.

The same thing can be said about ambiguities created by omitting the Oxford comma.

The point is that there are more ambiguities from not using the Oxford commas in addition to parentheticals (esp. items with "and" in them) that are not so easily dealt with. So I agree with jonts that there are "more" cases of ambiguity to be resolved by not using the comma.

Citation needed.

But even if true, the majority of cases can still be fixed just by re-ordering the sentence.  Moreover, the cases where there is ambiguity either way are far rarer than cases where the Oxford comma makes no difference at all.  (Citation needed for these declarations too. :P)

The choice to use it or lose it when it's unambiguous either way is down to style guidelines and personal preference.

My point is that it doesn't matter most of the time and that the Oxford comma is also guilty of causing ambiguity at times.  That's all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 24, 2014, 09:59:55 pm
Helix fossil plush: http://silkencat.deviantart.com/art/Helix-Fossil-Plush-436109308

I... don't get it.

f.DS : scout jokes : : twitch plays pokemon : helix fossil jokes

Ah, I see.  I think.  Are there ammonite pokemon?

The Helix fossil turns into one.

(http://i.imgur.com/SITlTVf.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 24, 2014, 10:03:45 pm
theory, this discussion that's been ongoing really needs to be separated out into the RSPG subforum. Thank you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on February 24, 2014, 10:09:23 pm
Ah, I see.  I think.  Are there ammonite pokemon?
The helix fossil gets "restored" into an Omanyte, so yes, of a sort.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 24, 2014, 10:18:57 pm
Ah, I see.  I think.  Are there ammonite pokemon?
The helix fossil gets "restored" into an Omanyte, so yes, of a sort.

That may be the least creative pokemon name I've heard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 24, 2014, 10:20:10 pm
Ah, I see.  I think.  Are there ammonite pokemon?
The helix fossil gets "restored" into an Omanyte, so yes, of a sort.

That may be the least creative pokemon name I've heard.

Here is a picture of Seel.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/1/1f/086Seel.png/250px-086Seel.png).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 24, 2014, 10:27:30 pm
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/7/7c/089Muk.png/250px-089Muk.png)
Hello, Seel. I'm Muk!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on February 24, 2014, 10:34:19 pm
Watching American real life shows or documentaries, I always wonder how much is scripted.

I mean, when I watch "Hardcore Pawn" (love the pun) which seems to be set in the Detroit area, there are always a lot of stereotypical African American women raising a scene: "This engagement ring isn't pure gold? You cheap-ass son of a ....." Now I tend to believe that it's not that far from the truth, but I think there's someone outside paying them to raise a scene, no?
I pretty much assume all reality TV series are scripted until I'm told otherwise.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 24, 2014, 10:36:37 pm
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/e/ec/122Mr._Mime.png/250px-122Mr._Mime.png)

Mr. Mime wants to play too!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 24, 2014, 10:40:10 pm
In short: Gen 1 was pretty bad with names. A lot of it's pokemon were pretty bland too. Later gens have had their fair share of bad pokemon but still.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 24, 2014, 10:46:26 pm
Watching American real life shows or documentaries, I always wonder how much is scripted.

I mean, when I watch "Hardcore Pawn" (love the pun) which seems to be set in the Detroit area, there are always a lot of stereotypical African American women raising a scene: "This engagement ring isn't pure gold? You cheap-ass son of a ....." Now I tend to believe that it's not that far from the truth, but I think there's someone outside paying them to raise a scene, no?
I pretty much assume all reality TV series are scripted until I'm told otherwise.
A former coworker was on House Hunters a while back, looking to "buy" the houseboat he bought 5 months prior.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 24, 2014, 11:00:49 pm
I stand corrected multiple times.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GendoIkari on February 24, 2014, 11:33:24 pm
but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity. 

Can you give an example?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 24, 2014, 11:57:00 pm
but there are also plenty of situations where using it creates ambiguity. 

Can you give an example?

Two have already been given.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on February 25, 2014, 02:57:06 am
In short: Gen 1 was pretty bad with names. A lot of it's pokemon were pretty bland too. Later gens have had their fair share of bad pokemon but still.

I've always thought Gen 1 names were pretty good!  Rapidash, Snorlax, Zapdos...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 25, 2014, 04:48:45 am
Theory: bunnies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on February 25, 2014, 05:19:27 am
I think Eevee is a great name.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 25, 2014, 09:03:03 am
ekanS
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on February 25, 2014, 09:35:32 am
I like Abra, Kadabra, Alakazam.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 25, 2014, 09:42:03 am
In short: Gen 1 was pretty bad with names. A lot of it's pokemon were pretty bland too. Later gens have had their fair share of bad pokemon but still.

I've always thought Gen 1 names were pretty good!  Rapidash, Snorlax, Zapdos...

Snorlax owns you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgkZIXQS1xA
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on February 25, 2014, 10:13:08 am
ekanS
arboK
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: popsofctown on February 25, 2014, 10:47:47 am
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres

Illuminati.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 25, 2014, 11:12:38 am
Is anyone else bothered by the pokemon being named Articuno rather than Arcticuno?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on February 25, 2014, 11:45:34 am
Also, there are some people who take it too far and use the Oxford comma in lists of two.  Gross.

I believe that both camps on the serial comma debate can agree that this is an abomination and must be stomped into the ground, cut into tiny pieces[,] and hurled into the sun. 

I always prefer the serial comma, and I'll reword a sentence to avoid ambiguity, rather than omit the serial comma. Really it boils down to whether the writer is consistent. I'll twitch a tiny bit when I see a serial comma missing, but I'll be content as long as the writer is consistent.

One thing that bugs me is that a friend of mind writes the possessive its with an apostrophe. No, it's not where you think. This is its with the apostrophe at the end. I found this when reviewing her blog entry. I pointed out the typo, and she said that it was correct. Okay, twitch time. I care enough to bring it up, but I also don't want to press the issue and alienate her. I do not recall any style manual that says its' is acceptable. I'm pretty sure that is also an abomination.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: popsofctown on February 26, 2014, 12:43:39 am
Is anyone else bothered by the pokemon being named Articuno rather than Arcticuno?
Seel.. but I know what you mean.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on February 26, 2014, 04:23:07 am
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres

Illuminati.

Ekans backwards -> Snake
Arbok backwards -> Kobra
Muk backwards -> RSP
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 26, 2014, 05:42:31 pm
Another follow up on the -1/12 thing.

I've been watching some lectures online by the physicist Leonard Susskind.  Last week I watched the series on super symmetry and grand unification, now this week I'm going through the lectures on string theory and M theory.  In the lecture I just watched, he went through the -1/12 argument to deduce a 26 dimensional spacetime.  Some of you might find it interesting to watch physicists fumble through math  ;)

The discussion begins at about 1:04:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I7PjKyCnI0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 26, 2014, 06:22:21 pm
Another follow up on the -1/12 thing.

I've been watching some lectures online by the physicist Leonard Susskind.  Last week I watched the series on super symmetry and grand unification, now this week I'm going through the lectures on string theory and M theory.  In the lecture I just watched, he went through the -1/12 argument to deduce a 26 dimensional spacetime.  Some of you might find it interesting to watch physicists fumble through math  ;)

The discussion begins at about 1:04:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I7PjKyCnI0

I've only watched part of it.. this all strikes me as something that is somehow tangential to "correct" but not complete.  Like they're doing computations that are kind of right but they're not using the right language.  The playing around and absorbing of infinities just doesn't sit right.

He's really going through some amazing hoops to do the sum of -1/12 thing.. though the pulling out an "infinite constant" thing is interesting.  But this is why I was never satisfied in my physics classes.  Things are never justified, just kind of.. done.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on February 26, 2014, 06:34:44 pm
Another follow up on the -1/12 thing.

I've been watching some lectures online by the physicist Leonard Susskind.  Last week I watched the series on super symmetry and grand unification, now this week I'm going through the lectures on string theory and M theory.  In the lecture I just watched, he went through the -1/12 argument to deduce a 26 dimensional spacetime.  Some of you might find it interesting to watch physicists fumble through math  ;)

The discussion begins at about 1:04:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I7PjKyCnI0

I've only watched part of it.. this all strikes me as something that is somehow tangential to "correct" but not complete.  Like they're doing computations that are kind of right but they're not using the right language.  The playing around and absorbing of infinities just doesn't sit right.

He's really going through some amazing hoops to do the sum of -1/12 thing.. though the pulling out an "infinite constant" thing is interesting.  But this is why I was never satisfied in my physics classes.  Things are never justified, just kind of.. done.

That's because you need the next, more advanced, physics to understand the current stuff you learn. And you keep getting more advanced until you reach the point where we don't have answer's yet.

Physics is always justified, or justifiable (until you reach the no answer stage). You just need to learn more to understand fully what you already learned.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 26, 2014, 06:35:23 pm
Yeah, but at least here it is clear that the sum is 1/epsilon^2 + -1/12 and not just -1/12.  In the lecture series, we've been viewing the string in an inertial reference frame with extremely large momentum along one axis so that the motion in the perpendicular plane is nonrelativistic.  As consequence, the energy has an extremely large additive constant on it, which he explains is the source of that 1/epsilon^2.  That is more satisfactory, in my mind.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on February 26, 2014, 06:38:14 pm
I don't have the education to totally understand this yet... but wow, cool.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 26, 2014, 06:40:24 pm
Right but.. could not a similar argument be made to make the sum A(x) + B, where A(x) goes to infinity and B is any number?  That epsilon seems arbitrary.. you could write 1/epsilon^2 as [1/epsilon^2 - k]+k for any constant k. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 26, 2014, 06:43:46 pm
Right but.. could not a similar argument be made to make the sum A(x) + B, where A(x) goes to infinity and B is any number?  That epsilon seems arbitrary.. you could write 1/epsilon^2 as [1/epsilon^2 - k]+k for any constant k.

How do you propose to get 1/epsilon^2 - k in any natural way out of p^2?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 26, 2014, 06:52:01 pm
Epsilon is sqrt(1/(p^2+k)) instead of 1/p? 

I skipped ahead to his treatment of the sum, so maybe I'm missing some kind of organicness going on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on February 26, 2014, 07:10:41 pm
Or, couldn't you take a function f_n(epsilon) with lim_{epsilon->0}f_n(epsilon) = 1 and consider the series

\sum{n=1}^\infty nf_n(\epsilon)

Then choose f_n so that the sums work out to give you <infinity>+<some fixed C>?  Or is e^{-epsilon*n} very special here?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on February 27, 2014, 07:19:09 pm
This is a semi-old puzzle, but I recently both remembered it and found out the solution, so I might as well share it.

You and a partner have a deck of cards, and want to show off a neat trick. First, a third person chooses 5 cards from the deck of 52. You look at those cards, remove 1 of them, and place the other 4 on the table in any order. (You must place all 4 cards, I believe the puzzle is much easier if you don't have to.) Your partner must then say what card you removed from the 5.

Come up with a scheme that makes this trick possible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 27, 2014, 07:46:34 pm
This is a semi-old puzzle, but I recently both remembered it and found out the solution, so I might as well share it.

You and a partner have a deck of cards, and want to show off a neat trick. First, a third person chooses 5 cards from the deck of 52. You look at those cards, remove 1 of them, and place the other 4 on the table in any order. (You must place all 4 cards, I believe the puzzle is much easier if you don't have to.) Your partner must then say what card you removed from the 5.

Come up with a scheme that makes this trick possible.

I assume you're not allowed to use positional cues?

Edit:  Oh, I just noticed that *I* get to pick out which of the five cards is discarded, not the third party.  That makes things much, much easier.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 27, 2014, 07:59:41 pm
So, for suits, there are 6 possible distributions in 5 cards:  5, 4-1, 3-2, 3-1-1, 2-2-1, 2-1-1-1.  No matter what, you can always remove a card that is the same suit as one of the four cards you play.  Play the same-suited card first, and your partner knows the suit of the unknown.

I'm trying to figure out ranks, give me a few minutes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 27, 2014, 08:11:00 pm
While the third party is focusing on you playing the cards you mouth the card to your partner.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 08:24:27 pm
Are positional cues not allowed then?

What about timing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 27, 2014, 08:33:03 pm
Kirian has a good method for the suit.

For the rank, there's enough ways to play the cards that you can assign a rank to 13 ways of playing out the cards.

Say 1 is the left most spot, 2 is next left most, etc., you can do something like:

1234 = 2
1243 = 3
1324 = 4
1342 = 5
1423 = 6
1432 = 7

A lot of memorization but possible.

Not sure of a way yet if you need to play them all in the same location.

Edit: you could use the position from your hand just as easily as the position on the table.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 08:38:18 pm
Kirian has a good method for the suit.

For the rank, there's enough ways to play the cards that you can assign a rank to 13 ways of playing out the cards.

Say 1 is the left most spot, 2 is next left most, etc., you can do something like:

1234 = 2
1243 = 3
1324 = 4
1342 = 5
1423 = 6
1432 = 7

A lot of memorization but possible.

Not sure of a way yet if you need to play them all in the same location.

Edit: you could use the position from your hand just as easily as the position on the table.

There are many, many things you could do if you can use position to give information.  In order for this to be difficult, you would have to figure out a way to do it solely by the order that the cards are played.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 27, 2014, 08:41:42 pm
Couldn't you just do the same with the ranks of the cards? The order you play them from lowest to highest can be substituted for left and right?

Ie, if you go lowest, second lowest, third lowest, highest, that can signal one rank, while going lowest, third lowest, second lowest, highest signals another rank.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 27, 2014, 08:50:12 pm
Couldn't you just do the same with the ranks of the cards? The order you play them from lowest to highest can be substituted for left and right?

Ie, if you go lowest, second lowest, third lowest, highest, that can signal one rank, while going lowest, third lowest, second lowest, highest signals another rank.

That breaks down if there was a full house, for instance...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 27, 2014, 08:50:53 pm
Couldn't you just do the same with the ranks of the cards? The order you play them from lowest to highest can be substituted for left and right?

Ie, if you go lowest, second lowest, third lowest, highest, that can signal one rank, while going lowest, third lowest, second lowest, highest signals another rank.
It works if you also assign value to suits, but then Kirian's way of indicating suit doesn't work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 09:02:13 pm
Couldn't you just do the same with the ranks of the cards? The order you play them from lowest to highest can be substituted for left and right?

Ie, if you go lowest, second lowest, third lowest, highest, that can signal one rank, while going lowest, third lowest, second lowest, highest signals another rank.
It works if you also assign value to suits, but then Kirian's way of indicating suit doesn't work.

I've been thinking along this line.  You can have an overall sorting for all 52 cards (e.g. sort by rank with Ace high, break ties by suit with Diamond low, then Clubs, then Hearts and Spades high).  Ignoring the first card, which indicates suit, you have the 3 remaining cards which can be labelled low, med and high.  Then the order of those cards can convey rank.

The problem is that 3 cards will only get you 3! = 6 permutations, which is just under half of the 13 we need.  4 cards gives 24, but then we lose the suit.

Is there a way to involve the initial suit card without making any assumptions about the 5 cards you are given?

Edit: One more thing to consider -- since the first card you play is of the same suit as the removed card, that is actually one card you don't have to account for.  You only have to worry about 12 ranks, because the rank of the first card you play is automatically excluded.  Hmmm... you could have a convention like "always pick the higher card of the pair"... but that doesn't help narrow it down if the pair includes the very highest card.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 09:37:06 pm
OK, so Kirian noted the possible distributions for suits.

5; 4-1; 3-2; 3-1-1; 2-2-1; 2-1-1-1

What are the possible distributions that can be seen by the guesser?

4; 3-1; 3-1 or 2-2; 2-1-1; 2-1-1; 1-1-1-1

If all 4 remaining cards are the same suit, then you can use all 4 cards to convey rank because it doesn't matter which is first.  That's trivial now.  You can do something similar from a 3-1 hand.  You are playing 3 cards of the same suit, so you can actually choose the order for them. 

The tightest case where this still works is from a 3-1-1 start.  You take one of the three matching, then you have 2-1-1 left.  Which of those 2 do you play first as the suit indicator?  That doubles the 6 permutations of the 3 other cards, which is enough to cover 12 ranks.

So now we just have to figure out what to do if we get a 2-2-1 or a 2-1-1-1 start.  It could be a different rank indication system because the guesser will be able to see that it was a 2-2-1 start (the pair that is revealed does not include the first suit indicating card) or a 2-1-1-1 start (the cards that are revealed are all different suits).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 27, 2014, 09:43:24 pm
I think I have the solution. It's probably wrong (because I only spent about 5 minutes thinking :P) but I'll spoiler tag in case it's right.

The basic idea is we need the card we put down as our suit card to not only indicate suit, but also always be picked specifically depending on the other number. The way we do this is as follows: We first get our 'suit pair' and we choose the card which is at most 6 higher than the other to set aside, assuming numbers wrap around. So e.g. if we had a 9 and a 2, then we set aside the 2 (as wrapping around we count from 9: 10, J, Q, K, A, 2). Then we play the 9 first, and then we just need permutations of the other cards to indicate a number from 'count up 1' to 'count up 6', which we can easily define as there are 6 permuations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on February 27, 2014, 09:46:19 pm
Ok, so we need a way to get from 6 permutations to 12. So basically just need one more choice to make.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on February 27, 2014, 09:48:57 pm
Solution by Tables is correct. If you want a hint instead of getting spoiled by the entire solution, then worrying about the distribution of suits isn't important. All you need is that one suit has at least 2 cards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 27, 2014, 09:53:19 pm
As an example of the above method, let's say we number cards from lowest to highest then by suit alphabetically (so we'd go 2 Clubs, 2 Diamonds, 2 Hearts, 2 Spades, 3 Clubs, ... A Hearts, A Spades). Number the three cards (one is set aside, and one is the suit card) 1, 2, 3 from lowest to highest. Then for simplicity, we'll say S, 1, 2, 3 is lowest (add 1), then S, 1, 3, 2 (add 2), then S, 2, 1, 3 (add 3), then S, 2, 3, 1 (add 4), then S, 3, 1, 2 (add 5), and finally S, 3, 2, 1 (add 6).

So now I've made an actually complete method. Here's an example in action. I'm given H2, S8, CK, H8, C3. I have 2 Hearts and 2 Clubs, but I'm going to go with Hearts for my suit (semi-arbitrarily). H8 is six more than H2, so that's the one I set aside. H2 is my suit card. I want to indicate add 6, so I need the 'largest' permuation, 3, 2, 1. That happens to be CK, then S8, then C3. So I lay out for my partner: H2, CK, S8, C3.

My partner sees this and the H2 immediately tells him the hidden card is a Heart, from 3-8. He looks at the permuation of other cards and sees it's in decreasing order. He knows to add 6, so he announces the hidden card is H8 and is correct.


Phew. I'm more convinced of my method's correctness now.

PPE: Titan just confirmed it's correct, but still here's an example.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 09:53:40 pm
Nicely done.  The wrapping around was the key I missed.  Very clever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 27, 2014, 10:13:54 pm
Ah yes, I missed the wrapping around as well, I was going with my start on suits, and following that with OK, what you we do with 4 of a kind, full house, etc.  Then I got down to pairs and realized it was starting to fall apart.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 10:17:34 pm
Ah yes, I missed the wrapping around as well, I was going with my start on suits, and following that with OK, what you we do with 4 of a kind, full house, etc.  Then I got down to pairs and realized it was starting to fall apart.

Above, I detail ways to do it with the different suit distributions.  I was only missing a way for 2-2-1 and 2-1-1-1 start.  I've got a way for 2-2-1 though.  You choose between which of the two suit pairs you want to select, and the guesser will know which two suits were available for you to choose from.  With suits having an order, you again can choose to pick the higher or lower suit.

I don't think there's a way to make it work for the 2-1-1-1 start though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on February 27, 2014, 10:18:04 pm
My favorite card trick:  First, say you want to do a card trick, where someone else picks a card from a deck.  You, somehow (I have a way I always do this), figure out its position in the deck.  You turn cards from the deck, and, when it gets to their card, say, "The next card I turn over is your card."  You flip the card.  You explain how you did this.  Say you will repeat the trick, but shuffle the deck this time.  Take a peak at his card while shuffling.  Turn over cards, and a few cards after his card, say, "The next card I turn over is your card."  Then, turn the card that's already on the table upside down.

That whole first part is just setting it up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 10:38:21 pm
I like Joey's card tricks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1_mZeBki1w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_x1xku39nQ
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 27, 2014, 10:40:15 pm
It reminds me of one of my favourite card tricks. Tell someone to pick a card, do something with it so it seems like a genuine trick, then shuffle it in. Tell them you're going to hand them their card. Finish shuffling, then hand them the entire deck of cards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on February 27, 2014, 11:05:05 pm
My favorite is the one in which you take a look at the bottom card while shuffling, then shuffle so that the card will end on top, then cut the deck at any point while using your pinkie to keep track of the point, then tell someone to pick any card of their choice and make them choose the card that you have taken a look at. Then, you can tell which card it is even before they hand it back, and if you feel like it, you can pretend to read their mind or something. It doesn't always work, because sometimes the victim will pick the wrong card, and that makes it pretty thrilling, because you'll have to improvise if it goes wrong, and on the other hand, it's also that much more satisfying when it's actually successful.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on February 27, 2014, 11:08:55 pm
Reading descriptions of card tricks makes my head hurt.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 27, 2014, 11:42:16 pm
Do it at a bar with random people and just guess a random card, you'll be right 1/52 times and you'll be a mindreader.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 27, 2014, 11:56:35 pm
Do it at a bar with random people and just guess a random card, you'll be right 1/52 times and you'll be a mindreader.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/psychic.png) (https://xkcd.com/628/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 28, 2014, 12:01:35 am
Dammit, I bet Simpsons did it too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on February 28, 2014, 06:47:45 am
Do it at a bar with random people and just guess a random card, you'll be right 1/52 times and you'll be a mindreader.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/psychic.png) (https://xkcd.com/628/)

You can do a lot better than 1% if you start keeping track of the patterns in what numbers people pick.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on February 28, 2014, 11:20:05 am
On the topic of random stuff, my respect is actually somehow approaching a 1:1 ratio with my post count, which is... kinda surprising for me actually. I mean I get a lot of respect from jokes and stuff but still, it'd be nice if I could actually hit that ratio I suppose.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on February 28, 2014, 01:32:00 pm
On the topic of random stuff, my respect is actually somehow approaching a 1:1 ratio with my post count, which is... kinda surprising for me actually. I mean I get a lot of respect from jokes and stuff but still, it'd be nice if I could actually hit that ratio I suppose.

You're not the only one who watches this number.  I can't tell if approaching parity is a sign that post quality is improving, or the inevitable effect of quadratic beating linear growth...

If you take the ratio seriously, memes are the price you pay to allow you to make on topic comments.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on February 28, 2014, 01:58:36 pm
You can do a lot better than 1% if you start keeping track of the patterns in what numbers people pick.
69, dudes!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on February 28, 2014, 02:09:49 pm
You can do a lot better than 1% if you start keeping track of the patterns in what numbers people pick.
69, dudes!

Whoa.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on February 28, 2014, 02:14:25 pm
You can do a lot better than 1% if you start keeping track of the patterns in what numbers people pick.
69, dudes!

Whoa.

Same here.  I guess we were 69ing together.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on February 28, 2014, 02:33:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0

So that's how (electro)magnets work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on February 28, 2014, 02:50:49 pm
I'm incredibly disappointed in the gratuitous use of Democracy to get through Victory Road. I hope they don't stoop to it for the E4.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on February 28, 2014, 06:24:45 pm
This is a semi-old puzzle, but I recently both remembered it and found out the solution, so I might as well share it.

You and a partner have a deck of cards, and want to show off a neat trick. First, a third person chooses 5 cards from the deck of 52. You look at those cards, remove 1 of them, and place the other 4 on the table in any order. (You must place all 4 cards, I believe the puzzle is much easier if you don't have to.) Your partner must then say what card you removed from the 5.

Come up with a scheme that makes this trick possible.
Wrote up a solution to this before reading Tables's solution. It's pretty much the same idea, but doesn't use suits.

There is an easy and hard part to this.

The easy part first. Agree ahead of time on a correspondence between cards and integers 0,1,...51. Then the basic ordering is to lay out the cards in numeric order, and there are 4!=24 ways to reorder that. So that can communicate 24 different messages to your partner.

The problem is that there are 48 cards remaining in the deck apart from the ones you placed. So we still need to signal which half of the remaining deck the omitted card was in. And we have to do it without changing the order that we play the 4 cards, since we already used that information.

Here's the best idea I can come up with to communicate which half of the deck to look in, though it's a little clunky. Your partner will follow the rule of picking the maximum of the 4 cards you play (according to the agreed correspondence with integers), then counting upwards, skipping over cards in the played 4, wrapping around if exceeding 51.

Given the 5 cards you start with, here is how you communicate the appropriate signal by removal. Let A<B<C<D<E be the initial 5 cards. We will only choose to remove D or E, so we can ignore A,B,C and pretend D and E are 2 cards in a 49 card deck. If there were a >=24 card gap from D up to E _and_ a >=24 card gap from E up to D, there would be >=50 cards in the remaining deck, more than 49. So either counting up from D will reach E within 24 counts or counting up from E will reach D within 24 counts.

If counting up from D works, delete E. (Your partner will start from D, by the rule.) If counting up from E works, delete D. (Your partner will start from E, by the rule.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on February 28, 2014, 06:33:38 pm
Sorry to double post, but one interesting thing about the puzzle is that a solution still wastes a lot of possible outputs.

Inputs are 5 cards chosen from 52. That's (52 choose 5).
Outputs are 4 cards chosen from 52, ordered. That's (52 choose 4) * 4!.

# outputs / # inputs = (52 choose 4) * 4! / (52 choose 5) = 5! / 48 = 5 / 2.

Of course, having enough possible outputs doesn't immediately guarantee a solution is possible, since certain sets of inputs might not have enough outputs between them. (This comes down to bipartite matching theory.) If you go just by counts though, it suggests it might still be possible with a 124 card deck.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on February 28, 2014, 06:36:38 pm
Is it possible to do with fewer cards? If not, what if you're allowed to not play all of them, for extra information?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on February 28, 2014, 09:13:05 pm
Is it possible to do with fewer cards? If not, what if you're allowed to not play all of them, for extra information?
Using the original rules, it isn't possible even you're given 3 cards and need to remove one. In that case,

# outputs / # inputs = (52 choose 3) * 3! / (52 choose 4) = 4! / 49 = 24 / 49,

so there simply aren't enough possible outputs to account for every input.

If you're allowed not to play all of them, the analysis technique I'm using doesn't apply anymore, because even if you can figure out what the removed card was, you might not know the entire 5 card input set, meaning the function from inputs to outputs no longer needs to be injective (i.e. no two inputs mapping to the same output).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 01, 2014, 01:27:23 pm
Such a strange mixture of emotions.  There is a math problem that I've been working on for years.  I think I may have now solved it, which is exciting, but there is still that worry that I have a gap, like every other time I've thought I solved it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 01, 2014, 01:30:52 pm
Such a strange mixture of emotions.  There is a math problem that I've been working on for years.  I think I may have now solved it, which is exciting, but there is still that worry that I have a gap, like every other time I've thought I solved it.

42.  The answer is 42, and always was 42.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 01, 2014, 01:41:12 pm
Such a strange mixture of emotions.  There is a math problem that I've been working on for years.  I think I may have now solved it, which is exciting, but there is still that worry that I have a gap, like every other time I've thought I solved it.

At that point I tend to go home for the day, or do something else.  There's always the chance that tomorrow you find a mistake, but for one night you feel like a champion.

Equally exciting is going to bed thinking something's broken and waking up with a solution.  Or at least entertaining nonsense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 01, 2014, 04:29:06 pm
Wow.  I just finished that lecture series on string theory, and the last lecture really blew my mind.  Physics is so much more beautiful when you see the mathematics behind it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 02, 2014, 12:02:02 am
Reply 2000!

I haven't watched any of the string series videos, but I took modern physics last year in college (being a mechanical engineer, not necessary) and I walked out of every day with my mind blown...  It was great
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 02, 2014, 12:40:49 am
Reply 2000!

I haven't watched any of the string series videos, but I took modern physics last year in college (being a mechanical engineer, not necessary) and I walked out of every day with my mind blown...  It was great

Argh, stop taunting me.  I'm wanting to major in something like nuclear physics in college but I'm still in high school...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 02, 2014, 07:31:20 am
Your mind being blown is a good thing.  It is a sense of awe.

If you are interested in modern physics, you should sign up for this worldscienceu course that Brian Greene is teaching online.  It is on special relativity.  It should be starting soon.  There are two options, one without math and one with math.  Einstein's theory of special relativity is from 1905, and was really the beginning of modern physics.  The math behind it is actually surprisingly simple -- as opposed to general relativity or quantum mechanics which require lots of calculus and differential equations -- but you have to replace some of the most fundamental and common sense notions you have about the world, which is really disorienting.

http://welcome.worldscienceu.com/page/s/splash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_nbzA-O1sQ
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 02, 2014, 12:58:44 pm
Yeah, we learned a lot about that stuff in my modern physics class.  The math really wasn't that bad, but once we got to wave theory and the shroedinger equation... That's when it started getting insane and confusing for me.  I understood the theory, but some of the math was a little out there.  Still, very very cool stuff.  My professor was a really awesome guy.  He worked at fermi lab and helped discover the top quark (I think it was top... not really sure...) and it was so great just to go and listen to him talk.  We talked a little bit about quantum, and that was also insane.  Really cool, but getting into any of the math was crazy.  Didn't do great in the class, but I don't care.  The lectures were so great.

sudgy:  Take physics in high school.  If your class is anything like mine, your teacher will still go over some of the special relativity things and touch on some more modern physics.  You'll walk away mind blown sometimes :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 02, 2014, 01:10:11 pm
Probaby top.  It was discovered in the 90s; all the other quarks were found by the mid 70s or so I think.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 02, 2014, 03:13:28 pm
sudgy:  Take physics in high school.  If your class is anything like mine, your teacher will still go over some of the special relativity things and touch on some more modern physics.  You'll walk away mind blown sometimes :)

I'm taking physics and advanced physics in high school already :)  I understand the concepts of special and general relativity, and quantum mechanics, but I just don't know the math behind it.  I think in the advanced physics course I saw some questions regarding special relativity (like the math), so that should be nice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on March 02, 2014, 05:43:35 pm
sudgy:  Take physics in high school.  If your class is anything like mine, your teacher will still go over some of the special relativity things and touch on some more modern physics.  You'll walk away mind blown sometimes :)

I'm taking physics and advanced physics in high school already :)  I understand the concepts of special and general relativity, and quantum mechanics, but I just don't know the math behind it.  I think in the advanced physics course I saw some questions regarding special relativity (like the math), so that should be nice.
The maths in special relativity corresponds roughly to high school algebra, so you should be able to follow the derivations for it without too much effort. A lot of the maths in quantum mechanics (at least up to around Schrodinger's equation or so) needs 1st-2nd year university calculus, but it's worth trying to follow along. General relativity uses differential geometry, which in university I did in 3rd and Honours (4th) year ... and still don't think I followed most of it. Which shouldn't be considered a discouragement, but don't be surprised if you have no idea what's going on, and if you do wind up studying it formally cross your fingers and hope you have a good lecturer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 02, 2014, 07:35:23 pm
Reply 2000!

I haven't watched any of the string series videos, but I took modern physics last year in college (being a mechanical engineer, not necessary) and I walked out of every day with my mind blown...  It was great

It will be a long, long time before we have 2000! replies in this thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on March 02, 2014, 07:41:01 pm
Though at the rate we're currently going, it will eventually happen.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 02, 2014, 07:48:18 pm
I doubt it. This thread has existed for 15 months and reached 2008 replies. At that rate, it'd take around 105722 times the current age of the universe to reach 2000! replies. And well that's not impossible, but I kinda have my doubts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 02, 2014, 07:49:38 pm
Though at the rate we're currently going, it will eventually happen.

Not likely.  Factorials are bigger than you think.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2000!

Every single human on the planet generating one post per femtosecond from now until the heat death of the universe doesn't even make the start of a dent in 10^5735.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 02, 2014, 07:53:44 pm
Though at the rate we're currently going, it will eventually happen.

Not likely.  Factorials are bigger than you think.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2000!

Every single human on the planet generating one post per femtosecond from now until the heat death of the universe doesn't even make the start of a dent in 10^5735.

To put that in another (perhaps more tangible) perspective, the total matter in the universe is somewhere between 10^78 to 10^84 equivalent of hydrogen atoms.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on March 02, 2014, 07:57:50 pm
he said "at the rate we're currently going" which assumes that despite the end of the universe and the extinction of all life or anything else that could theoretically impede the thread's progress, it will continue at the same rate.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 02, 2014, 08:12:33 pm
Dammit.

Technicalities - 1
Tables & Kirian - 0.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 02, 2014, 08:22:08 pm
I tried to work out 2000! on a calculator and got an error message.  I conclude that no numbers are that big.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 02, 2014, 08:28:48 pm
I tried to work out 2000! on a calculator and got an error message.  I conclude that no numbers are that big.

My calculator returned "A Suffusion of Yellow."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 02, 2014, 08:30:51 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy? 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 02, 2014, 08:31:36 pm
I tried to work out 2000! on a calculator and got an error message.  I conclude that no numbers are that big.

My calculator returned "A Suffusion of Yellow."

Well, I used Stirling's formula, so I didn't get the exact answer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on March 02, 2014, 08:42:24 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy? 
Well, I agree with you, but don't have any extra explanations to add. So I just +1ed all your posts instead.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 02, 2014, 08:48:58 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy?

I tend to agree more with the others.  I think we just have different conceptions of what Throne Room does.  I think we both agree that it plays another action in your hand.  But then you appear to think of the Throne Room as fishing out a second virtual copy of the action to play.  I instead think of the Throne Room itself as mimicking or morphing into a second copy of the action.  Of course, neither of these are accurate.  It simply plays that single card from your hand twice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 02, 2014, 08:54:41 pm
I tried to work out 2000! on a calculator and got an error message.  I conclude that no numbers are that big.

My calculator returned "A Suffusion of Yellow."

Well, I used Stirling's formula, so I didn't get the exact answer.

As I linked, that's what Wolfram Alpha is for.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 02, 2014, 09:00:23 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy?

I tend to agree more with the others.  I think we just have different conceptions of what Throne Room does.  I think we both agree that it plays another action in your hand.  But then you appear to think of the Throne Room as fishing out a second virtual copy of the action to play.  I instead think of the Throne Room itself as mimicking or morphing into a second copy of the action.  Of course, neither of these are accurate.  It simply plays that single card from your hand twice.

You can think of it morphing into a second copy of the other action as well.  But in that way of thinking about it, you still get a phantom +1 action.  It's the same kind of phantom +1 action that you get from Cultist (which only works for another Cultist) or Herald (which only works for an action card on top of your deck).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 02, 2014, 09:06:26 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy?

I tend to agree more with the others.  I think we just have different conceptions of what Throne Room does.  I think we both agree that it plays another action in your hand.  But then you appear to think of the Throne Room as fishing out a second virtual copy of the action to play.  I instead think of the Throne Room itself as mimicking or morphing into a second copy of the action.  Of course, neither of these are accurate.  It simply plays that single card from your hand twice.

You can think of it morphing into a second copy of the other action as well.  But in that way of thinking about it, you still get a phantom +1 action.  It's the same kind of phantom +1 action that you get from Cultist (which only works for another Cultist) or Herald (which only works for an action card on top of your deck).

I don't think it's that we disagree with you, at least not me. It's more that the riddle is ambiguous and more than one solution fits the riddle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on March 02, 2014, 09:08:15 pm
he said "at the rate we're currently going" which assumes that despite the end of the universe and the extinction of all life or anything else that could theoretically impede the thread's progress, it will continue at the same rate.
I chose my wording carefully :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 02, 2014, 09:14:13 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy?

I tend to agree more with the others.  I think we just have different conceptions of what Throne Room does.  I think we both agree that it plays another action in your hand.  But then you appear to think of the Throne Room as fishing out a second virtual copy of the action to play.  I instead think of the Throne Room itself as mimicking or morphing into a second copy of the action.  Of course, neither of these are accurate.  It simply plays that single card from your hand twice.

You can think of it morphing into a second copy of the other action as well.  But in that way of thinking about it, you still get a phantom +1 action.  It's the same kind of phantom +1 action that you get from Cultist (which only works for another Cultist) or Herald (which only works for an action card on top of your deck).
The interesting thing is that thinking of Cultist's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is pretty much never useful, while thinking of Throne Room's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is useful whenever you're Throning another Throne and thinking of Herald's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is useful pretty much always.

And yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you either, I don't think that there's anything wrong with the logic. I just think that there isn't a particular reason to ever use that logic, and that you can use that logic to justify any Action card as an answer for the puzzle, not just Throne Room (well, at least for the +1 card, +1 action part; you still need to come up with a reason why the Action card is also not an Action card).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on March 02, 2014, 09:15:46 pm
That's because cultist's "+1 action" is always on other terminal, so you always end up with one fewer action after playing a cultist.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 02, 2014, 09:21:08 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy?

I tend to agree more with the others.  I think we just have different conceptions of what Throne Room does.  I think we both agree that it plays another action in your hand.  But then you appear to think of the Throne Room as fishing out a second virtual copy of the action to play.  I instead think of the Throne Room itself as mimicking or morphing into a second copy of the action.  Of course, neither of these are accurate.  It simply plays that single card from your hand twice.

You can think of it morphing into a second copy of the other action as well.  But in that way of thinking about it, you still get a phantom +1 action.  It's the same kind of phantom +1 action that you get from Cultist (which only works for another Cultist) or Herald (which only works for an action card on top of your deck).
The interesting thing is that thinking of Cultist's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is pretty much never useful, while thinking of Throne Room's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is useful whenever you're Throning another Throne and thinking of Herald's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is useful pretty much always.

Cultist +action is useful to think of in a BM game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 02, 2014, 09:25:05 pm
I request assistance.  Over in the puzzles forum, Nik posted a riddle (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10532.msg349273#msg349273).  The answer was immediately obvious to me, but nobody else seems to understand it.  I repeatedly tried to explain what is completely intuitive to me but I'm failing.  Am I just crazy?

I tend to agree more with the others.  I think we just have different conceptions of what Throne Room does.  I think we both agree that it plays another action in your hand.  But then you appear to think of the Throne Room as fishing out a second virtual copy of the action to play.  I instead think of the Throne Room itself as mimicking or morphing into a second copy of the action.  Of course, neither of these are accurate.  It simply plays that single card from your hand twice.

You can think of it morphing into a second copy of the other action as well.  But in that way of thinking about it, you still get a phantom +1 action.  It's the same kind of phantom +1 action that you get from Cultist (which only works for another Cultist) or Herald (which only works for an action card on top of your deck).
The interesting thing is that thinking of Cultist's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is pretty much never useful, while thinking of Throne Room's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is useful whenever you're Throning another Throne and thinking of Herald's phantom +1 action as a +1 action is useful pretty much always.

Cultist +action is useful to think of in a BM game.
It's not, because you'll still have Ruins. Better to think of Cultist as a card whose effect gets more powerful the more copies you have.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on March 02, 2014, 09:38:23 pm
Finally read through like 40 pages of this to catch up. This moves fast!

In other news, we finished Red. On to Crystal...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 02, 2014, 11:52:54 pm
sudgy:  Take physics in high school.  If your class is anything like mine, your teacher will still go over some of the special relativity things and touch on some more modern physics.  You'll walk away mind blown sometimes :)

I'm taking physics and advanced physics in high school already :)  I understand the concepts of special and general relativity, and quantum mechanics, but I just don't know the math behind it.  I think in the advanced physics course I saw some questions regarding special relativity (like the math), so that should be nice.
The maths in special relativity corresponds roughly to high school algebra, so you should be able to follow the derivations for it without too much effort. A lot of the maths in quantum mechanics (at least up to around Schrodinger's equation or so) needs 1st-2nd year university calculus, but it's worth trying to follow along. General relativity uses differential geometry, which in university I did in 3rd and Honours (4th) year ... and still don't think I followed most of it. Which shouldn't be considered a discouragement, but don't be surprised if you have no idea what's going on, and if you do wind up studying it formally cross your fingers and hope you have a good lecturer.

I forgot to mention that I somewhat understand calculus, I know what a derivative and integral are, I just can't find them for a given function :-\  I'm currently stumbling my way through the "wave function" page on wikipedia...  I'm going to actually take calculus next year (in 12th grade), and hopefully actually be able to solve problems with it...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 03, 2014, 02:43:18 am
Note to self: Don't place ground black pepper in your nose. It doesn't feel particularly nice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on March 03, 2014, 11:01:29 am
Happy birthday, Eevee!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on March 03, 2014, 02:21:07 pm
Evolving, again?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 04, 2014, 01:46:55 am
This is the most hilarious askreddit I've encountered.  http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1zhasz/if_an_object_screamed_its_name_every_time_it_was/

And what are you evolving into Eevee? Another Eevee again?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on March 04, 2014, 09:12:40 pm
http://comingupmilhouse.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 05, 2014, 12:32:53 am
In case you've ignored the board, I posted some photos and a short story of mine over in Advertisements: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10575.msg350752#new

And I'm preeeetty sure there are other writers/photographers around, so show yourselves!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 05, 2014, 02:28:14 am
Am I the only person who immediately thinks of Angel any time someone links to or references Wolfram Alpha?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 05, 2014, 01:41:57 pm
I'm bored...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 05, 2014, 04:02:56 pm
I just watched so many of this guy's videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaK6dD6A7Qo
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 05, 2014, 04:16:16 pm
I just watched so many of this guy's videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaK6dD6A7Qo

OK, this is just... amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 05, 2014, 04:31:36 pm
OMG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbqvTg3RW0Y

The FEELS
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 05, 2014, 04:41:59 pm
I only recently stumbled across him because of TPP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI_CkvlHm_Y&list=UUJvBEEqTaLaKclbCPgIjBSQ&feature=c4-overview
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 05, 2014, 05:07:57 pm
Another rare, on-topic post.

http://j2kun.svbtle.com/how-can-you-tell-whats-random
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on March 06, 2014, 02:00:24 am
Yeah, Smooth McGroove is awesome. Long-term subscriber and supporter here.

My favorite video is his version of a Touhou song, since I also really like Touhou (and the music) a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUed7HZtTNA
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 06, 2014, 01:29:58 pm
Tribbles are such racist.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 06, 2014, 03:00:47 pm
So yesterday I played a 5 player game of 7 Wonders. Someone built the Architects Guild (3 VPs for each adjacent guild), and her two neighbours eventually ended up building three guilds each, i.e. every guild except that one was built by her neighbours. 18 points from the Architect's Guild is pretty crazy. She won, but it was a really close game (she beat me by 10 points and I came last).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 06, 2014, 04:24:18 pm
Somehow none of you have yet posted this viral weirdness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 06, 2014, 04:31:25 pm
J-pop + Heavy Metal? Love it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 06, 2014, 05:07:12 pm
It's actually "gimme choco" and not "gimme chocolate."  Stuff like that unnecessarily annoys me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 06, 2014, 05:17:18 pm
It's actually "gimme choco" and not "gimme chocolate."  Stuff like that unnecessarily annoys me-me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on March 06, 2014, 09:01:19 pm
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/78798597332/youve-said-before-that-you-dislike-multiplayer

Mark Rosewater, lead designer of Magic: the Gathering, has at least heard of Dominion!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 06, 2014, 09:04:30 pm
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/78798597332/youve-said-before-that-you-dislike-multiplayer

Mark Rosewater, lead designer of Magic: the Gathering, has at least heard of Dominion!
He's referenced it a couple times: https://www.google.com/search?q=dominion+site%3Amarkrosewater.tumblr.com
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 06, 2014, 09:26:51 pm
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/78798597332/youve-said-before-that-you-dislike-multiplayer

Mark Rosewater, lead designer of Magic: the Gathering, has at least heard of Dominion!

Considering DXV worked on Magic, I'm hardly surprised. Not to mention Dominion's become a pretty big player in the world of board games.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 06, 2014, 09:39:29 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 06, 2014, 09:42:57 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

Oh I will be using this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 06, 2014, 09:45:15 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

In the US, the most egregious nym-nym is SSN number.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 06, 2014, 09:46:54 pm
xkcd did a rather painful strip on the modern genocide.

http://xkcd.com/1338/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on March 06, 2014, 09:58:34 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

In the US, the most egregious nym-nym is SSN number.

PIN number!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 06, 2014, 10:11:49 pm
I'm not bothered by nym-nyms, they're usually pretty useful for clarification when talking out of context.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 06, 2014, 11:10:51 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

In the US, the most egregious nym-nym is SSN number.

PIN number!

ATM machines!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 06, 2014, 11:16:58 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

I prefer referring to it as Recursive Acronym Syndrome, or RAS Syndrome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 06, 2014, 11:22:52 pm
f.ds forums
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on March 07, 2014, 01:03:14 am
PHP is a scipting language which stands for PHP: hypertext preprocessor.

GNU is an operating system which stands for GNU's not Unix.

Computer people love recursive acronyms.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 07, 2014, 01:18:53 am
PHP is a scipting language which stands for PHP: hypertext preprocessor.

GNU is an operating system which stands for GNU's not Unix.

Computer people love recursive acronyms.

Sure, but there's a huge difference between an intentional recursive acronym, and erroneously using an extra word.  It would be much different if PIN stood for "PIN Identification Number"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 07, 2014, 01:21:57 am
Also terrible: panini sandwich.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 07, 2014, 02:08:20 am
I love doing that thing, and often do it intentionally in IRL.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 07, 2014, 02:16:34 am
I love doing that thing, and often do it intentionally in IRL.
Quoted QFT
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 07, 2014, 02:52:06 am
Somehow none of you have yet posted this viral weirdness:

I listened to it, and have no idea how I feel about it. I mean, it's okay? Really, I'm just perplexed.

I'm partial to most work done by Demetori myself, don't know if that's because I'm biased from liking Touhou or if it's genuinely good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS5QZio9CU0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 07, 2014, 03:02:58 am
Somehow none of you have yet posted this viral weirdness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY

Chiming in late, but now that I watched this, I think it's only weirdness if you don't speak Japanese.  They lyrics are actually pretty smart and full of puns and jokes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 07, 2014, 03:10:48 am
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

I prefer referring to it as Recursive Acronym Syndrome, or RAS Syndrome.

Or PNS Syndrome, where PNS stand for PIN Number Syndrome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 07, 2014, 03:14:21 am
xkcd did a rather painful strip on the modern genocide.

http://xkcd.com/1338/

Is it mostly that the number of wild animals is decreasing?  Or that humans and livestock make very efficient use of land, so their relative contribution is much greater?  (This is an "I don't know but would like to" question.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 07, 2014, 03:22:37 am
I'm partial to most work done by Demetori myself, don't know if that's because I'm biased from liking Touhou or if it's genuinely good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS5QZio9CU0
It is genuinely pretty good, I haven't really gotten into Touhou and I still find it nice. I wish the drum sounds were better though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 07, 2014, 08:57:51 am
Another rare, on-topic post.

http://j2kun.svbtle.com/how-can-you-tell-whats-random

So, if you're in a casino watching a roulette wheel and it spins R, do you bet on R? What if you observe it spin RRRRRBRRRRRR? When do you decide the wheel is not fair and bet on R? If you are the casino owner, at what point do you shut the wheel down and inspect it or investigate the operator?

The only answers I can think of begin with "It depends on your beliefs...."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 07, 2014, 10:46:33 am
Another horrible word usage, cheese quesadilla.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 07, 2014, 11:17:19 am
Another horrible word usage, cheese quesadilla.

And yet such a great usage of cheese and tortillas.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 07, 2014, 01:48:09 pm
Another horrible word usage, cheese quesadilla.

¿Qué so?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 07, 2014, 01:59:17 pm
Another horrible word usage, cheese quesadilla.

¿Qué so?

Hehe..he..he..
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 07, 2014, 08:27:59 pm
http://www.dropatitan.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 08, 2014, 01:58:06 am
http://www.dropatitan.com/

I tried to upload an image with Goko's logo, but it kept crashing Flash. I blame Goko for this mishap.

In other news, being super tired, going to bed at about 11:30pm and waking up at 3am unable to get back to sleep sucks. I'm gonna be a zombie today and I've got to be alert all morning. Urgh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on March 09, 2014, 09:58:45 pm
Just beat Super Hexagon!

Then I realized there are 5 more levels...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 09, 2014, 10:54:37 pm
Just beat Super Hexagon!

Then I realized there are 5 more levels...

Just as a heads up, the Hexagonest level is significantly harder than Hexagoner, and is a little harder than Hyper Hexagon and Hyper Hexagoner IMO. I got stuck on that difficulty, and the final difficulty, for a lot longer than the rest.

I also still haven't beaten the final difficulty on Android, I've done it exactly once on PC and have never been able to do it again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 09, 2014, 11:14:29 pm
I can't get more than like 40 seconds on hexagoner... but I beat hexagon
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: popsofctown on March 09, 2014, 11:17:17 pm
I was enjoying some weird al videos the other day, but then ran into this one, which is deeply disturbing and hurting my mind.
NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtMU8nvZzOs&feature=kp

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 09, 2014, 11:39:21 pm
I was enjoying some weird al videos the other day, but then ran into this one, which is deeply disturbing and hurting my mind.
NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtMU8nvZzOs&feature=kp

Deeply disturbing is exactly what you expect from the animator of Ren and Stimpy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: popsofctown on March 10, 2014, 12:08:33 am
taught me a lesson for not reading the details before watching.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 10, 2014, 06:05:50 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/13d3eb5878bb4c12f44226698701c789/tumblr_n0ubqhDw701qdlh1io1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 10, 2014, 06:09:23 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/13d3eb5878bb4c12f44226698701c789/tumblr_n0ubqhDw701qdlh1io1_400.gif)

Looks like Korean on the wall behind the train.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on March 10, 2014, 06:36:54 pm
Another horrible word usage, cheese quesadilla.

¿Qué so?

Pablo walks into a department store but doesn't know any English. He tries to get the salesman to help, but Bob doesn't know any Spanish. "Are you looking for a shirt?" Pablo shakes his head no.

The salesman points to his pants. "Are you looking for pants?" Pablo shakes his head no.

The salesman points to his socks. "Are you looking for socks?" Pablo nods excitedly and says, "¡Ah! ¡Sí! ¡Sí! ¡Eso si que es!"

The salesman says, "Well, if you knew how to spell it, why didn't you just say so!"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on March 10, 2014, 07:18:22 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

In the US, the most egregious nym-nym is SSN number.

PIN number!
The TTP Project.

Also, TIARA is a recursive acronym.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 10, 2014, 11:11:39 pm
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

In the US, the most egregious nym-nym is SSN number.

PIN number!
The TTP Project.

Also, TIARA is a recursive acronym.

In the search for gravitational waves, there is a nested acronym

LSC -- LIGO Scientific Collaboration
          LIGO -- Laser Inferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory
                      LASER -- Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on March 11, 2014, 04:34:24 am
When people do that thing with a verbal acronym where they end with a word from the acronym (e.g. "what's your ETA time") I call that an ancronym-nym or just nym-nym for short.

In the US, the most egregious nym-nym is SSN number.

PIN number!
The TTP Project.

Also, TIARA is a recursive acronym.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/hofstadter.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 11, 2014, 10:41:42 am
In the search for gravitational waves, there is a nested acronym

LSC -- LIGO Scientific Collaboration
          LIGO -- Laser Inferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory
                      LASER -- Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

Yeah, but the Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation Inferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory Scientific Collaboration doesn't have the same ring to it. Or just LASERIGOSC for short I suppose.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 11, 2014, 06:50:36 pm
http://existentialcomics.com/comic/19
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 11, 2014, 07:00:15 pm
http://existentialcomics.com/comic/19
That was fantastic
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 12, 2014, 07:05:07 pm
Similar to recursive acronyms...

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/d5ff16bc0a3ec3127f503e010f4139f9/tumblr_n28y74KyrZ1rq8qrno1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on March 13, 2014, 01:54:17 am
If I ever visit the US again, I'd like to see the La Brea Tar Pits.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on March 13, 2014, 06:03:44 am
I'm certainly the last on the internet to see that, just in the case I'm not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT3mCybbhf0

edit: ok, I keep the auto embed so nobody feels rickrolled...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 14, 2014, 12:53:09 am
http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/
I don't know if you guys have seen this, but it is amazingly fun.

Best score: 2916
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on March 14, 2014, 01:07:21 am
6180; very fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 14, 2014, 01:14:26 am
6180; very fun.
Booo :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on March 14, 2014, 01:14:51 am
Okay, that's addicting.

PPE: And apparently Shraeye is much better than I am at this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 14, 2014, 01:20:15 am
The biggest tile I got was 256...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on March 14, 2014, 01:23:28 am
Aaaand I just beat my high score by randomly mashing buttons.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on March 14, 2014, 01:32:34 am
6412!

It seems like once I got to a dead end, there was always a way out if I thought about it.  I had a 512 and a 256, was still a ways off from getting a second 256 though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 14, 2014, 02:14:40 am
7096!  I had a 512, and would have gotten to a 1024 if I had gone a bit more...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on March 14, 2014, 02:25:28 am
Nice, Sudgy. Just got 6460. It gets hard!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 14, 2014, 02:52:33 am
3080, whew.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 14, 2014, 03:07:24 am
5624, this thing is awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on March 14, 2014, 03:17:56 am
Very addictive. It took me ~5 tries to reach 2048 (score: 20276). Unfortunately I couldn't play further for 4096 :-( I think I found a strategy with which you can reach 2048 pretty reliably, and I think you would also have a good shot to reach 4096 and maybe 8192 (with enough patience).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 14, 2014, 03:22:27 am
7180! I think I found an algorithm that works. I just keep messing it up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on March 14, 2014, 03:24:10 am
Yeah, I'm at 7105. I'm always just one space off of the 1024. Just gotta use those corners..
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on March 14, 2014, 04:36:51 am
6180; very fun.
5.6k indeed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on March 14, 2014, 07:42:19 am
Man, this game sounds fun, powers of two and stuff! I'll have to try it.....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 08:46:53 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iUh_CSjaSw
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on March 14, 2014, 08:48:54 am
+1 for not being about tau
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 14, 2014, 09:13:45 am
Can someone explain lambda?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 09:23:28 am
Can someone explain lambda?

huh?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 14, 2014, 09:33:38 am
1352 that's fun!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 14, 2014, 10:13:45 am
"They're in everything!  What ARE the chances?"

Vi Hart is brilliant.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 14, 2014, 10:14:59 am
Can someone explain lambda?

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/electromagnetic_spectrum.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 10:26:05 am
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 14, 2014, 10:37:16 am
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!

Is this a half-life pun?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 14, 2014, 11:17:53 am
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!

Is this a half-life pun?
So basically he just needs to buy Half-Life 2.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 14, 2014, 11:20:34 am
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!

Is this a half-life pun?
So basically he just needs to buy Half-Life 2.

That checks out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 14, 2014, 11:28:12 am
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!

Is this a half-life pun?
So basically he just needs to buy Half-Life 2.

No, that's Quarter-Life.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on March 14, 2014, 11:41:55 am
can't let others get ahead; 7456
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 14, 2014, 12:05:08 pm
3116, will have to try again now that I know what's going on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 14, 2014, 12:22:02 pm
2720 :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 14, 2014, 12:45:30 pm
6292 I don't know what's happening again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on March 14, 2014, 12:46:38 pm
3424 - too much fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 14, 2014, 01:05:35 pm
Tried once, 512... apparently I suck at this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 14, 2014, 01:08:33 pm
Tried once, 512... apparently I suck at this.

We're talking about our total score, not the biggest tile.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 14, 2014, 01:14:02 pm
Oh, I didn't even see the score thingy.

6480 then. I'm pretty good actually

*confidence in self restored*
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 14, 2014, 01:42:16 pm
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!

Is this a half-life pun?

I should certainly hope not; lambda is the decay constant, not the half-life.  Half-life is t1/2.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 14, 2014, 01:44:49 pm
Apparently I suck at this game, my highest was 2724 in three or four plays.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 14, 2014, 01:49:27 pm
I thought so too 2700 my first multiple tries just got 6420 b
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 14, 2014, 02:12:34 pm
Welp, my roommate just got the 2048 block and won with a score of 20380.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 14, 2014, 02:22:05 pm
Welp, my roommate just got the 2048 block and won with a score of 20380.

Wat
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 14, 2014, 02:26:36 pm
Got 3108 with up/left/down/right over and over lol
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 14, 2014, 02:27:26 pm
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!

Is this a half-life pun?

I should certainly hope not; lambda is the decay constant, not the half-life.  Half-life is t1/2.

... touche

Though, I don't like using subscripts for my variables (unless I need to enumerate them), so if I was going to write the exponential decay in terms of the half-life, I might just use lambda for that. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 02:30:05 pm
Nerd!  How about you get yourself a full-life, Kirian!

Is this a half-life pun?

I should certainly hope not; lambda is the decay constant, not the half-life.  Half-life is t1/2.

Sure was.  Decay constants and half-lives are pretty much the same thing.  You can get from one to the other.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 14, 2014, 02:56:02 pm
can't let others get ahead; 7456


7457 here
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 14, 2014, 02:59:48 pm
can't let others get ahead; 7456


7457 here

I was like woa...oh it's ozzle
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on March 14, 2014, 03:12:51 pm
Just got 7828.. so close to that 1028 block!  Had all the pieces, just couldn't quite get em together.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 14, 2014, 03:14:15 pm
can't let others get ahead; 7456


7457 here

I was like woa...oh it's ozzle

Where where??
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on March 14, 2014, 03:14:19 pm
Oh, I didn't even see the score thingy.

6480 then. I'm pretty good actually

*confidence in self restored*

Seriously.  I got a 1024 block and was so sad to read about all these higher numbers (and was also vaguely discomfited by the fact that I didn't really think many of them were powers of 2 ...)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 14, 2014, 03:48:39 pm
Seriously.  I got a 1024 block and was so sad to read about all these higher numbers (and was also vaguely discomfited by the fact that I didn't really think many of them were powers of 2 ...)

You're playing the beginner version where everything is a power of 2. We're all playing the advanced version where everything is a power of 1.1873953
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 14, 2014, 04:23:11 pm
Seriously.  I got a 1024 block and was so sad to read about all these higher numbers (and was also vaguely discomfited by the fact that I didn't really think many of them were powers of 2 ...)

You're playing the beginner version where everything is a power of 2. We're all playing the advanced version where everything is a power of 1.1873953

And with that, it's time to go create a version that multiplies instead of adds, and uses powers of 1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on March 14, 2014, 06:19:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iUh_CSjaSw
I enjoyed the video but it skips over a couple things that do make pi special. One is that it's a transcendental number (unlike sqrt(2)). Sure, almost all real numbers are transcendental, but there aren't that many that actually get used day-to-day: that'd be pi and e, and that's about it. Another special thing about pi is that it sometimes shows up in places that you didn't initially expect to be related to circles or periodicity.

(I can't explain why pi gets so much more love than e, though. Maybe it's just that geometry is more intuitive than calculus.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 14, 2014, 06:34:14 pm
(I can't explain why pi gets so much more love than e, though. Maybe it's just that geometry is more intuitive than calculus.)

I think part of it is that more people know about pi than e.  Pi is taught in elementary geometry, while e is taught in calculus.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 14, 2014, 06:35:29 pm
(I can't explain why pi gets so much more love than e, though. Maybe it's just that geometry is more intuitive than calculus.)

I think part of it is that more people know about pi than e.  Pi is taught in elementary geometry, while e is taught in calculus.

But they work so well together!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on March 14, 2014, 06:43:26 pm
(I can't explain why pi gets so much more love than e, though. Maybe it's just that geometry is more intuitive than calculus.)

I think part of it is that more people know about pi than e.  Pi is taught in elementary geometry, while e is taught in calculus.

Plus pi is a lot easier to understand.  Anyone can understand why pi is cool: every single circle in the universe obeys the same rule about its size.

Try describing e, on the other hand: e is defined as where e to the power of x is its own derivative.  What's exponentiation?  What's a derivative?  Why is this special?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 06:55:02 pm
I like to think of the intuitive connection as follows:

If an object is moving towards you with a speed equal to its distance from you, its motion is described by e.
If an object is accelerating towards you with an acceleration equal to its distance from you, its motion is described by pi.

(Technically I should say proportional, not equal.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 14, 2014, 07:02:12 pm
(I can't explain why pi gets so much more love than e, though. Maybe it's just that geometry is more intuitive than calculus.)

I think part of it is that more people know about pi than e.  Pi is taught in elementary geometry, while e is taught in calculus.

Plus pi is a lot easier to understand.  Anyone can understand why pi is cool: every single circle in the universe obeys the same rule about its size.

Try describing e, on the other hand: e is defined as where e to the power of x is its own derivative.  What's exponentiation?  What's a derivative?  Why is this special?

But pi is defined as half the imaginary period of the complex exponential!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 07:04:39 pm
The other intuitive way that I wish students were introduced to e is via probability, particularly the following:

You have 1 in X chance of dying each time you perform a certain activity, where X is some large number (e.g. 1 in 1000).  You perform that activity X times.  Then the odds that you survive are about 1 in e.

Giving students a reference point for probability seems more useful in everyday life than a geometric fact about circles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on March 14, 2014, 07:41:33 pm
Try describing e, on the other hand: e is defined as where e to the power of x is its own derivative.  What's exponentiation?  What's a derivative?  Why is this special?
Invest $1 at 100% interest compounded daily. After a year, you'll have almost $e.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on March 14, 2014, 07:42:55 pm
Also, she says that in calculus you deal with "infinities 2 levels deeper than" countably infinite (around 4:00). I assume that she means with this the cardinality beth-2, which is 2^c (where c is the continuum), but how often do you deal with that when doing calculus? I think never. There are c real numbers, c continuous functions, c differentiable functions, c complex numbers, c open subsets of R^n. What thing has cardinality 2^c when doing calculus?

When typing this up, I was thinking how many topologies there are on an infinite set X. Is it 2^(|X|) or 2^(2^(|X|))?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 07:54:30 pm
Also, she says that in calculus you deal with "infinities 2 levels deeper than" countably infinite. I assume that she means with this the cardinality beth-2, which is 2^c (where c is the continuum), but how often do you deal with that when doing calculus? I think never. There are c real numbers, c continuous functions, c differentiable functions, c complex numbers, c open subsets of R^n. What thing has cardinality 2^c when doing calculus?

When typing this up, I was thinking how many topologies there are on an infinite set X. Is it 2^(|X|) or 2^(2^(|X|))?

I remember attending a lecture by a mathematician named Nik Weaver who made this point and explored the study of functional analysis in a restricted axiom system where power sets don't always exist.

One issue is that, while you can talk about whether or not a specific function is continuous, I believe you ran into trouble when you tried to talk about the set of ALL continuous functions.  To specify that set, you begin by considering all functions, then restricting to the subset which satisfy a certain condition (continuity).  So even though the set of all continuous functions has the continuum cardinality, how would you define the set without considering that larger cardinality collection of all functions?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on March 14, 2014, 08:01:10 pm
You guys are proving my point, in that none of those explanations for why e is special is something sensible to a layman or middle schooler.  Pi is always going to be more special than e, and there shouldn't be anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 14, 2014, 08:23:19 pm
You guys are proving my point, in that none of those explanations for why e is special is something sensible to a layman or middle schooler.  Pi is always going to be more special than e, and there shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

When I was in middle school, I played a lot of video games.  One was named Earthbound.  There were a bunch of these really strong items that were rare drops.  You had a 1 in 256 chance of getting one after each encounter with a certain enemy.  I remember thinking at the time that if I battled 256 enemies I'd be guaranteed one.  But no.  After 256 battles, there would be a 1 in e chance of still not getting one.  Man, I wish my math teacher had taught me that.

I don't think I ever made use of circles until physics in high school.  Even in then, just in class.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 14, 2014, 08:31:11 pm
I've actually been using phi in the games I'm making more than pi or e, probably since I don't worry about the physics engine too much.  It's great for distribution.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 14, 2014, 08:31:56 pm
11664, with a 1024.
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Post by: Polk5440 on March 14, 2014, 08:49:43 pm
11,472 on my third try. I figured out an algorithm, got the 1024 block, then messed it up.

I was trying to keep my largest # in a corner (say top right), then next largest blocks around it, etc. Condense towards the top so largest blocks are in top row, increasing left to right. Then in second row focus on getting a big enough number all the way to the left to be able to condense up again.

I had gotten to a point where I was always moving left, right, or up. Then I accidentally hit down :'(.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 14, 2014, 09:42:14 pm
16928... I hit down again.

The self-discipline this takes!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 15, 2014, 12:03:10 am
16852.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 15, 2014, 01:18:35 am
11,472 on my third try. I figured out an algorithm, got the 1024 block, then messed it up.

I was trying to keep my largest # in a corner (say top right), then next largest blocks around it, etc. Condense towards the top so largest blocks are in top row, increasing left to right. Then in second row focus on getting a big enough number all the way to the left to be able to condense up again.

I had gotten to a point where I was always moving left, right, or up. Then I accidentally hit down :'(.
I've found this works, but you also need to not get in a situation where it forces you to hit down, which I have had a hard time doing...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 15, 2014, 03:46:15 am
I showed the game to a friend, who noted that it is very similar to Threes, which is apparently an extremely popular game that launched Feb 10 in the Apple App Store and just recently launched on Android.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 15, 2014, 06:27:13 am
When typing this up, I was thinking how many topologies there are on an infinite set X. Is it 2^(|X|) or 2^(2^(|X|))?

I think it's the latter.  There are 2^2^|X| ultrafilters on an infinite set X, and an ultrafilter (together with the empty set) is a very special case of a topology.  (That's right for X = N, but I wouldn't swear to it in general, so don't rely on it for your proof of the Riemann hypothesis.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 15, 2014, 08:17:47 am
11,472 on my third try. I figured out an algorithm, got the 1024 block, then messed it up.

I was trying to keep my largest # in a corner (say top right), then next largest blocks around it, etc. Condense towards the top so largest blocks are in top row, increasing left to right. Then in second row focus on getting a big enough number all the way to the left to be able to condense up again.

I had gotten to a point where I was always moving left, right, or up. Then I accidentally hit down :'(.
I've found this works, but you also need to not get in a situation where it forces you to hit down, which I have had a hard time doing...

Oh, right. So what I was doing was if there were two moves to make (without hitting down) play the one that leaves you a move for sure next time, if you are able. Then if you get a bad generation, you still have an option. After playing it a couple more times, I think I got lucky with the generations I had on my 16k run, too. If you have to go down, then the goal is to get those big numbers back to a side as fast as possible and "lock" them again.

I found this "solver" this morning: http://ov3y.github.io/2048-AI/.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 15, 2014, 08:33:22 am
32760, with a 2048 and a 1024.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 15, 2014, 09:20:42 am
Win!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 15, 2014, 10:42:21 am
28,108 with one 2048 block. I think I will retire from that game now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 15, 2014, 11:37:56 am
8304 back to something that doesn't make me feel autistic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 15, 2014, 01:31:40 pm
32760, with a 2048 and a 1024.

Oh man, you just needed eight more points...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 15, 2014, 02:29:19 pm
Finally got it!  Final score 20704.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 15, 2014, 02:46:42 pm
I got it too!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 15, 2014, 07:11:32 pm
Someone just shared a video called "Funny FROG Video EVER Seen" with me on YouTube.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on March 15, 2014, 07:20:14 pm
Someone just shared a video called "Funny FROG Video EVER Seen" with me on YouTube.
Seeing random words written in all caps IS a minor Internet pet PEEVE of mine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on March 15, 2014, 10:16:21 pm
Just beat Super Hexagon level 2, Hexagoner. Now for Hexagonest...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 15, 2014, 10:21:58 pm
Someone just shared a video called "Funny FROG Video EVER Seen" with me on YouTube.
Seeing random words written in all caps IS a minor Internet pet PEEVE of mine.
Maybe FROG is an acronym for something?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 15, 2014, 11:35:33 pm
9860 cannot get higher than a 512 tile
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 16, 2014, 12:53:40 am
9756 with a 1024 block!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 16, 2014, 01:06:25 am
New challenge:  Get the lowest score you can.  My submission: 120

(http://i.imgur.com/xoR5M7J.png) (http://imgur.com/xoR5M7J)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on March 16, 2014, 01:25:20 am
Me: "That sounds like a bad idea, very luck dependent."

*Tries next 15 minutes to improve your score*
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on March 16, 2014, 01:31:01 am
Here's my submission: 92.

(http://i.imgur.com/2E99dsW.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 16, 2014, 02:10:26 am
New challenge:  Get the lowest score you can.  My submission: 120

(http://i.imgur.com/xoR5M7J.png) (http://imgur.com/xoR5M7J)
Were you trying for it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 16, 2014, 06:41:46 am
I've finished reading Worm, a web serial about a world where superpowers are real, semi-recently and figured it was worth recommending. You can find it at http://parahumans.wordpress.com/

Fair warning: It's very dark. People die, many victories come at a price, heroes are not necessarily good, and villains are not necessarily bad. Everything is played as realistically as possible except for the superpowers, meaning that people get hurt a lot, and in ways that have long-lasting repercussions. It's also VERY LONG. The format was releasing a new update every couple of days, which means that although the world and characters in it are very detailed, it takes a long time to get through.

My one complaint is that the story runs on throwing harder and harder opponents at the protagonists. There are also a couple things that show up in the last couple of arcs that bug me. However, there are enough "holy shit that was amazing" moments in it to make it worth it.

Edit: You know what actually just read http://parahumans.wordpress.com/about/ it's far better than the description I gave.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 16, 2014, 09:08:10 am
Yeah, I was trying for it :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 16, 2014, 09:21:57 am
12336 with a 1024 tile, first game of the morning. Probably should leave it alone for the day...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 16, 2014, 02:09:42 pm
Second game of the day: 17112 but still only the 1024 tile, very close though, had a pipeline perfectly setup to string into the 2048 but had one piece at the early part of the string get out of order.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 16, 2014, 02:13:50 pm
I finally got it today :) 20068
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 16, 2014, 07:14:35 pm
Finally got the 2048 tile, 20892.  still going though.

Final: 27380
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 16, 2014, 07:21:44 pm
Worm was great. Tattletale OP.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 16, 2014, 07:24:19 pm
Dunkin Donuts just opened up near me in San Diego, the line has been an hour and a half to two hours long all day, everyday, all week http://www.10news.com/news/dunkin-donuts-opens-in-downtown-san-diego
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on March 16, 2014, 07:46:06 pm
Still can't get above 8,000.  ???
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 16, 2014, 07:52:27 pm
Dunkin Donuts just opened up near me in San Diego, the line has been an hour and a half to two hours long all day, everyday, all week http://www.10news.com/news/dunkin-donuts-opens-in-downtown-san-diego

When Krispy Creme opened in Shibuya, the line was around the block for days, 24 hours a day.  Insane.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 16, 2014, 07:52:27 pm
Dunkin Donuts just opened up near me in San Diego, the line has been an hour and a half to two hours long all day, everyday, all week http://www.10news.com/news/dunkin-donuts-opens-in-downtown-san-diego

Sadly, I grew up in Dunkin Donuts' hometown.  The entire Northeast is devoid of quality coffee houses because of Dunkin Donuts :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 16, 2014, 07:53:07 pm
SadlyLuckily, I grew up in Dunkin Donuts' hometown.  The entire Northeast is devoid of quality coffee houses becauseexcept for of Dunkin Donuts :(

Fixed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 16, 2014, 07:56:38 pm
SadlyLuckily, I grew up in Dunkin Donuts' hometown.  The entire Northeast is devoid of quality coffee houses becauseexcept for of Dunkin Donuts :(

Fixed.

Seriously?  They smell funny, the seating is general rather poor, and until recently many tended not to even have decent wifi.  I also remember them not offering soy milk and insisting upon serving coffee in Styrofoam cups even when I ordered it "for here".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 16, 2014, 08:05:46 pm
I know of no franchise coffee worth drinking. And yes, the Northeast is afflicted with DD.
I live in the hometown of Krispy Kreme and Dunking Donuts struggles to maintain a presence. That thing they call a donut is a travesty. A true donut has more weight in sugar than flour which DD utterly fails to recognize with their dense, cakey things.

Still, we have amazing bakeries that relegate both DD and KK to cheap morning stuff at work. I don't know anyone who actually buys the things for themselves. The fact we have a couple of local roasters might explain my snobbery towards the coffee, too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 16, 2014, 09:15:17 pm
I personally am a big fan of cakey doughnuts...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 16, 2014, 09:23:15 pm
SadlyLuckily, I grew up in Dunkin Donuts' hometown.  The entire Northeast is devoid of quality coffee houses becauseexcept for of Dunkin Donuts :(

Fixed.

Seriously?  They smell funny, the seating is general rather poor, and until recently many tended not to even have decent wifi.  I also remember them not offering soy milk and insisting upon serving coffee in Styrofoam cups even when I ordered it "for here".

I like the burnt, oily, styrofoamed coffee of DD because it, like baseball, is the epitome of 'mericaness.

I mean, hey, here in Australia, I've got so many amazing coffee options that doesn't matter.  But I used to get a gigantic DD coffee on my way to work in the freezing snow of DC many a time and was happier for it.

Side note: who gets anything "for here" in a DD?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on March 16, 2014, 09:50:24 pm
Still can't get above 8,000 over 9000.  ???
FTFY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on March 16, 2014, 11:10:19 pm
Getting closer with 11684 and a 1024.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 16, 2014, 11:36:32 pm
Still can't get above 8,000 over 9000 over 8000.  ???
FTFY
The original Japanese.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 17, 2014, 12:19:14 am
(http://i.imgur.com/RwiibPe.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 17, 2014, 12:34:06 am
Well done Jimmmmm!

If you like that, give Threes a try on iOS and android.

http://asherv.com/threes/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 17, 2014, 01:52:36 am
Worm was great. Tattletale OP.

It's neat how the story goes from "huh, Tattletale is pretty OP" to "WOW Tattletale is OP", but it never feels like she dominates or overpowers the rest of the cast.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 17, 2014, 02:26:12 am
Is the 4096 thing legit, or is it shopped?  How is that even possible?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 17, 2014, 02:35:00 am
Is the 4096 thing legit, or is it shopped?  How is that even possible?

No, it's legit.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 17, 2014, 02:37:37 am
Is the 4096 thing legit, or is it shopped?  How is that even possible?

No, it's legit.

How is it even possible though?  My game ends immediately upon getting a 2048 block, and blocks don't double collapse.  If I have four 2s in a row, collapsing them gives me two 4s next to each other, not a single 8.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 17, 2014, 02:45:00 am
Is the 4096 thing legit, or is it shopped?  How is that even possible?

No, it's legit.

How is it even possible though?  My game ends immediately upon getting a 2048 block, and blocks don't double collapse.  If I have four 2s in a row, collapsing them gives me two 4s next to each other, not a single 8.

It gives you the option of continuing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 17, 2014, 03:03:03 am
Is the 4096 thing legit, or is it shopped?  How is that even possible?

No, it's legit.

How is it even possible though?  My game ends immediately upon getting a 2048 block, and blocks don't double collapse.  If I have four 2s in a row, collapsing them gives me two 4s next to each other, not a single 8.

It gives you the option of continuing.

Wait whaaaat.  I clearly do not read end game screens clearly.  I am now very sad that I just quit out of a game I just finished.  I had SO much empty space after getting this 2048, thanks to a beautiful chain of snaking blocks from 8 all the way to 1024... it was my best one yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on March 17, 2014, 03:50:57 am
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22342854/what-is-the-optimal-algorithm-for-the-game-2048

esp: http://ov3y.github.io/2048-AI/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 17, 2014, 04:07:45 am
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8930421/2048.png)

Not as good as Jimmmm's, but I actually know what I'm doing now. :D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 17, 2014, 01:12:30 pm
!!!

“We’ve found the smoking gun evidence for inflation and we’ve also produced the first image of gravitational waves across the sky.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 17, 2014, 01:22:55 pm
!!!

“We’ve found the smoking gun evidence for inflation and we’ve also produced the first image of gravitational waves across the sky.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Damn, read the comments section.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Qvist on March 17, 2014, 01:26:47 pm
http://sztupy.github.io/2048-Hard/

 :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 17, 2014, 01:27:07 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA#t=73
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 17, 2014, 01:31:44 pm
!!!

“We’ve found the smoking gun evidence for inflation and we’ve also produced the first image of gravitational waves across the sky.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Damn, read the comments section.

Surely it needs to be confirmed by more experiements, but I'm not as negative as that comment.  I think that there is still a reasonable chance that magnetic monopole exist.  Also, the possibility of an inflaton field certainly feels a hell of a lot more likely after the confirmation of the Higgs field.  After all, the Higgs field is a fundamental scalar field just like the inflaton field.  And the Higgs field was invented ad hoc to explain perplexing phenomena in a way not terribly unlike the inflaton field.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 17, 2014, 01:33:11 pm
!!!

“We’ve found the smoking gun evidence for inflation and we’ve also produced the first image of gravitational waves across the sky.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Damn, read the comments section.

Surely it needs to be confirmed by more experiements, but I'm not as negative as that comment.  I think that there is still a reasonable chance that magnetic monopole exist.  Also, the possibility of an inflaton field certainly feels a hell of a lot more likely after the confirmation of the Higgs field.  After all, the Higgs field is a fundamental scalar field just like the inflaton field.  And the Higgs field was invented ad hoc to explain perplexing phenomena in a way not terribly unlike the inflaton field.

Well I was referring less to the content or merit of the comments, but more to their inflammatory nature. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 17, 2014, 03:59:30 pm
!!!

“We’ve found the smoking gun evidence for inflation and we’ve also produced the first image of gravitational waves across the sky.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Damn, read the comments section.

Surely it needs to be confirmed by more experiements, but I'm not as negative as that comment.  I think that there is still a reasonable chance that magnetic monopole exist.  Also, the possibility of an inflaton field certainly feels a hell of a lot more likely after the confirmation of the Higgs field.  After all, the Higgs field is a fundamental scalar field just like the inflaton field.  And the Higgs field was invented ad hoc to explain perplexing phenomena in a way not terribly unlike the inflaton field.

Well I was referring less to the content or merit of the comments, but more to their inflammatory nature. 

Eh, sounds like a known crackpot being a crackpot and nothing more.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 17, 2014, 04:10:07 pm
!!!

“We’ve found the smoking gun evidence for inflation and we’ve also produced the first image of gravitational waves across the sky.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Damn, read the comments section.

Surely it needs to be confirmed by more experiements, but I'm not as negative as that comment.  I think that there is still a reasonable chance that magnetic monopole exist.  Also, the possibility of an inflaton field certainly feels a hell of a lot more likely after the confirmation of the Higgs field.  After all, the Higgs field is a fundamental scalar field just like the inflaton field.  And the Higgs field was invented ad hoc to explain perplexing phenomena in a way not terribly unlike the inflaton field.

Well I was referring less to the content or merit of the comments, but more to their inflammatory nature. 

Eh, sounds like a known crackpot being a crackpot and nothing more.

Quite probably, I didn't really look into it.  But he got called out pretty hard on it :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on March 17, 2014, 06:09:57 pm
!!!

“We’ve found the smoking gun evidence for inflation and we’ve also produced the first image of gravitational waves across the sky.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Damn, read the comments section.

Surely it needs to be confirmed by more experiements, but I'm not as negative as that comment.  I think that there is still a reasonable chance that magnetic monopole exist.  Also, the possibility of an inflaton field certainly feels a hell of a lot more likely after the confirmation of the Higgs field.  After all, the Higgs field is a fundamental scalar field just like the inflaton field.  And the Higgs field was invented ad hoc to explain perplexing phenomena in a way not terribly unlike the inflaton field.

Well I was referring less to the content or merit of the comments, but more to their inflammatory nature. 

Eh, sounds like a known crackpot being a crackpot and nothing more.

Quite probably, I didn't really look into it.  But he got called out pretty hard on it :)

I found some more on this here (http://www.cleanvideosearch.com/media/action/yt/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 17, 2014, 09:51:11 pm
Anyhow, today's announcement was pretty much the best evidence to date that universes beyond our own exist.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 18, 2014, 08:57:09 am
http://doge2048.com/

wow. such game.  very blocks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on March 18, 2014, 09:14:21 am
Like.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 18, 2014, 09:41:42 am
Anyhow, today's announcement was pretty much the best evidence to date that universes beyond our own exist.

I missed this.  Not all inflation models propose multiple universes, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 18, 2014, 10:05:47 am
Anyhow, today's announcement was pretty much the best evidence to date that universes beyond our own exist.

I missed this.  Not all inflation models propose multiple universes, right?

Correct.  Not all do.  "Best evidence to date" is not meant to imply that this is even remotely conclusive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on March 18, 2014, 11:26:53 am
Can someone explain a bit more about this B-mode polarization stuff? Is that similar to like, circular polarization? Why would inflation induce a curl on the CMB's polarization? Or is that just because of rotating massive objects like Kerr black holes, causing "refraction" in the gravitational waves due to off-diagonal elements in the stress-energy tensor blah blah I don't really know what I'm talking about?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 18, 2014, 11:38:09 am
Can someone explain a bit more about this B-mode polarization stuff? Is that similar to like, circular polarization? Why would inflation induce a curl on the CMB's polarization? Or is that just because of rotating massive objects like Kerr black holes, causing "refraction" in the gravitational waves due to off-diagonal elements in the stress-energy tensor blah blah I don't really know what I'm talking about?

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2014/03/16/gravitational-waves-in-the-cosmic-microwave-background/

That is the best in-depth but not totally technical explanation I've seen so far.  It has pictures that show E-modes and B-modes.

Inflation posits a (quantum) scalar field called an inflaton field.  Additionally, there is the well known gravitational field which is a tensor field.  The inflaton field is thought to have caused rapid expansion, but to have decayed during the first several thousand Planck times (way less than one second).  My understanding is that the inflaton and gravitational fields would both polarize light.  Both produce E-modes, but only the gravitational fields would produce B-modes.  By doing a statistical analysis of the polarization of light in the cosmic background radiation you can piece together what the relative strengths.  That ratio is the number r which is being reported.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 18, 2014, 11:46:17 am
http://doge2048.com/

wow. such game.  very blocks.

I lost because I couldn't tell which of two was my biggest block...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on March 18, 2014, 11:52:59 am
Oh man, Richard Easther, I took an electrodynamics class with that guy. He had an awesome New Zealand accent...the concept of 'charge' comes up rather frequently in such a class, and he would always pronounce it like "chaahhhhge"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on March 18, 2014, 12:26:30 pm
http://doge2048.com/

wow. such game.  very blocks.

I lost because I couldn't tell which of two was my biggest block...
First Try
(http://i.imgur.com/FlqjMPP.png) (http://imgur.com/FlqjMPP)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 18, 2014, 06:05:45 pm
Is "doges" "dogs" in another languages?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 18, 2014, 06:16:26 pm
Is "doges" "dogs" in another languages?

I assumed it was a meme thing based on the pictures
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 18, 2014, 06:28:33 pm
Is "doges" "dogs" in another languages?

The meme involves misspelled words.

Doge was the title given to leaders in medieval Venice, if that helps.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 18, 2014, 07:08:47 pm
Is "doges" "dogs" in another languages?

The meme involves misspelled words.

Doge was the title given to leaders in medieval Venice, if that helps.

I knew about the normal use of Doge.  I didn't think it had anything to do with dogs, but I wanted to be sure.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on March 18, 2014, 07:22:37 pm
The Doge of Venice:

(http://i.imgur.com/LjjNk4i.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on March 18, 2014, 10:14:59 pm
I got 3368 on my first try, dunno if that's any good. Have no idea what I'm doing. I'm addicted already...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on March 18, 2014, 10:30:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjbPszSt5Pc
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 19, 2014, 05:04:25 am
I have been wasting so much time playing Osu. I think I've finally found a rhythm game that has a reasonable enough difficulty curve to get me hooked. (As in you construct your own difficulty curve, and the ratings tend to be pretty accurate.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 19, 2014, 07:02:44 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjbPszSt5Pc

I lost it at Scuttle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 19, 2014, 09:29:38 am
Relevance:

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/digits.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 19, 2014, 09:41:22 am
Is "doges" "dogs" in another languages?

Mickey: Good dags. D'ya like dags?
Tommy: Dags?
Mickey: What?
Mrs. O'Neil: Yeah, dags.
Tommy: Oh, dogs. Sure, I like dags.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on March 19, 2014, 09:50:01 am
I have been wasting so much time playing Osu. I think I've finally found a rhythm game that has a reasonable enough difficulty curve to get me hooked. (As in you construct your own difficulty curve, and the ratings tend to be pretty accurate.)

Oh, the hours I've played the DS games... They are many indeed. I recently visited my parents and my sister. She had Ouendan 2 lying around. It took me a couple of tries to cap the score on the final song, but I managed to do it.

I have played Osu some, but recently my PC haven't been up to it. And the mobile version doesn't really do it for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 19, 2014, 10:57:31 am
I'm kind of surprised to see how widespread that 2048 game has become. Here's a version someone recently posted on Facebook:

http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048-doctor-who-edition/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 19, 2014, 01:16:48 pm
I think DOGE is "doggie". Dog + "E", get it?  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on March 19, 2014, 04:48:00 pm
Here's a video by minutephysics about the polarizaton discovery. It doesn't go into the details, but it is explained very clearly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IlBNJbCzfk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 19, 2014, 04:53:12 pm
I think DOGE is "doggie". Dog + "E", get it?  :P

It's debatable (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/11/15/doge_pronunciation_how_do_you_pronounce_the_name_of_the_shibe_doge_meme.html).  It seems that most people pronounce it "dohj".  That's how I pronounce it as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 19, 2014, 05:03:15 pm
I think DOGE is "doggie". Dog + "E", get it?  :P

It's debatable (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/11/15/doge_pronunciation_how_do_you_pronounce_the_name_of_the_shibe_doge_meme.html).  It seems that most people pronounce it "dohj".  That's how I pronounce it as well.

Seens a remarkable coincidence then!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 19, 2014, 05:31:45 pm
Funny, I pronounce it "doh ghee".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 19, 2014, 05:34:22 pm
I've never actually had to pronounce it.  But my headcannon is something like dohj.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on March 19, 2014, 05:39:15 pm
For me it's always been "dohg", with a long 'o' and hard 'g'. Is this included in that dialect map survey thing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 19, 2014, 05:41:38 pm
For me it's always been "dohg", with a long 'o' and hard 'g'. Is this included in that dialect map survey thing?

You pronounce it such that it rhymes with vogue, right?  That's the second most common in the survey I linked.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 19, 2014, 05:44:03 pm
For me it's always been "dohg", with a long 'o' and hard 'g'. Is this included in that dialect map survey thing?

You pronounce it such that it rhymes with vogue, right?  That's the second most common in the survey I linked.

No, but I do the dance whenever i say it...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 19, 2014, 05:47:20 pm
People here (f.DS) need to post faster, I've read everything interesting
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on March 19, 2014, 05:48:02 pm
I think DOGE is "doggie". Dog + "E", get it?  :P

It's debatable (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/11/15/doge_pronunciation_how_do_you_pronounce_the_name_of_the_shibe_doge_meme.html).  It seems that most people pronounce it "dohj".  That's how I pronounce it as well.
Nice to see a poll. I pronounce it like rogue. Interesting to see such a close race between dogue and dohj.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 19, 2014, 06:04:41 pm
People here (f.DS) need to post faster, I've read everything interesting
Didn't you just say that you can't read?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 19, 2014, 06:06:19 pm
People here (f.DS) need to post faster, I've read everything interesting
Didn't you just say that you can't read?

Yeah, one was past tense, one was current tense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 19, 2014, 08:50:47 pm
I think DOGE is "doggie". Dog + "E", get it?  :P

It's debatable (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/11/15/doge_pronunciation_how_do_you_pronounce_the_name_of_the_shibe_doge_meme.html).  It seems that most people pronounce it "dohj".  That's how I pronounce it as well.
Nice to see a poll. I pronounce it like rogue. Interesting to see such a close race between dogue and dohj.

I pronounce it "throat-warbler mangrove."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 19, 2014, 08:52:16 pm
So, this (attached image) is in the basement of the building in which I work.

Much classic.  Such contemporary.  So close.  Wow.

Edit: Can anyone make it where it can just be seen and doesn't have to be downloaded?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 20, 2014, 04:50:50 am
Edit: Can anyone make it where it can just be seen and doesn't have to be downloaded?

Upload it to imgur (http://imgur.com) then embed it here using [ img ] http://address.of.image.jpg [/ img ] (without the spaces).  You can get the address of the image by right clicking and selecting "copy image location" (in Firefox; other browsers should be similar).

(http://i.imgur.com/nmkBTBR.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 20, 2014, 09:39:58 am
Edit: Can anyone make it where it can just be seen and doesn't have to be downloaded?

Upload it to imgur (http://imgur.com) then embed it here using [ img ] http://address.of.image.jpg [/ img ] (without the spaces).  You can get the address of the image by right clicking and selecting "copy image location" (in Firefox; other browsers should be similar).

(http://i.imgur.com/nmkBTBR.jpg)

Ah, thanks.  Now someone can photoshop Doge onto it...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 20, 2014, 12:23:51 pm
But that's not doge gramma! 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 20, 2014, 01:31:47 pm
But that's not doge gramma! 

Dogs don't live that long. I'm sure she's dead by now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 20, 2014, 02:47:19 pm
"At this point in the movie, Emperor Palpatine sends a radio message to contact Darth Vader, and Vader instructs Admiral Piett to move out of the asteroid field so they can get a 'clear signal'. So one could perhaps deduce that Palpatine's signal was kind of broken up and blotchy, similar to bad phone reception in a tunnel or something.

Only when they move out of the field and Vader takes the call, it's still messed up and dropping in and out. I guess that's science fiction for you. They can travel faster than light at the drop of a hat, but still use non-error-correcting low bandwidth analogue radio signals."

Omg why is Darths and Droids so good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 20, 2014, 05:28:26 pm
If you could ride to work on an Elephant one day a week.....would you?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on March 20, 2014, 05:36:11 pm
I guess it would be too slow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on March 20, 2014, 06:45:49 pm
If you could ride to work on an Elephant one day a week.....would you?
Hmm, might make it easier to get past everyone else still on kangaroos ...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on March 20, 2014, 06:47:41 pm
"At this point in the movie, Emperor Palpatine sends a radio message to contact Darth Vader, and Vader instructs Admiral Piett to move out of the asteroid field so they can get a 'clear signal'. So one could perhaps deduce that Palpatine's signal was kind of broken up and blotchy, similar to bad phone reception in a tunnel or something.

Only when they move out of the field and Vader takes the call, it's still messed up and dropping in and out. I guess that's science fiction for you. They can travel faster than light at the drop of a hat, but still use non-error-correcting low bandwidth analogue radio signals."

Omg why is Darths and Droids so good.
Because the team putting it together apparently found a way to make comedy-by-committee work. I wonder whether the recursion's continued since I last checked it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on March 20, 2014, 09:52:03 pm
I spent way too much time this week playing this little game called 2048 (http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/).  It is kind of addicting.  It took me several tries to finally beat it, and my high score is 21220. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 20, 2014, 09:53:01 pm
I spent way too much time this week playing this little game called 2048 (http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/).  It is kind of addicting.  It took me several tries to finally beat it, and my high score is 21220.

This game was already mentioned. Or is that why you were playing it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on March 20, 2014, 10:09:21 pm
I spent way too much time this week playing this little game called 2048 (http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/).  It is kind of addicting.  It took me several tries to finally beat it, and my high score is 21220.

This game was already mentioned. Or is that why you were playing it?

I missed its previous mention.  What can I say, I don't always read every post.  I saw it through facebook
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 20, 2014, 10:13:38 pm
I spent way too much time this week playing this little game called 2048 (http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/).  It is kind of addicting.  It took me several tries to finally beat it, and my high score is 21220.

This game was already mentioned. Or is that why you were playing it?

I missed its previous mention.  What can I say, I don't always read every post.  I saw it through facebook

If you hadn't realized it yet, you can keep going after hitting the 2048 block.  jimmmmm and I posted screenshots of the 4096 block.  AFAIK, jimmmmm still holsd the f.ds high score for 2048.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 20, 2014, 10:19:02 pm
I spent way too much time this week playing this little game called 2048 (http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/).  It is kind of addicting.  It took me several tries to finally beat it, and my high score is 21220.

This game was already mentioned. Or is that why you were playing it?

I missed its previous mention.  What can I say, I don't always read every post.  I saw it through facebook

I didn't say you had to. Just that there were giant images, so maybe you noticed those even without actually reading the posts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 20, 2014, 10:20:34 pm
I spent way too much time this week playing this little game called 2048 (http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/).  It is kind of addicting.  It took me several tries to finally beat it, and my high score is 21220.

This game was already mentioned. Or is that why you were playing it?

I missed its previous mention.  What can I say, I don't always read every post.  I saw it through facebook

In this case, it's more like not reading every page. It's been pretty solidly discussed for 100+ posts now, give or take.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 20, 2014, 10:22:20 pm
In this case, it's more like not reading every page. It's been pretty solidly discussed for 100+ posts now, give or take.

Isotropic is going down?!?!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on March 20, 2014, 10:27:44 pm
In this case, it's more like not reading every page. It's been pretty solidly discussed for 100+ posts now, give or take.

Isotropic is going down?!?!

What?!?!  No more Isotropic?

But yeah, now looking back it is discussed quite a bit.  I should have known with a community full of mathematically minded people this would have been discussed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 20, 2014, 10:28:02 pm
I have a bag of board games. For most of the last year it's sat in my house, not going anywhere. In the last week it's been to someone's accommodation on campus, then off to someone's house, then to a community center, off to a second person's house, out to a third person's house, almost around a fourth persons house and will probably be going back to the community center tomorrow before coming home with me.

I find it amusing just how well travelled this bag has suddenly become.

(If you're curious it contains Dominion (104 kingdom cards), Pandemic and Escape the Curse of the Temple)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 20, 2014, 10:35:00 pm
Here's some variants: http://phenomist.wordpress.com/2048-variants/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on March 20, 2014, 10:40:43 pm
AFAIK, jimmmmm still holsd the f.ds high score for 2048.
Let's change that. My score is 58176.

(http://i.imgur.com/zTVqRYV.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 20, 2014, 11:06:55 pm
Heh, from the variants:

http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b01902112/9007199254740992/

Get the 2^53 tile!  It even plays itself.

http://louhuang.com/2048-numberwang/

And I suppose that was inevitable, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 20, 2014, 11:10:11 pm
http://louhuang.com/2048-numberwang/

And I suppose that was inevitable, wasn't it?

The awesome thing is that this is still playable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 20, 2014, 11:31:06 pm
http://louhuang.com/2048-numberwang/

And I suppose that was inevitable, wasn't it?

The awesome thing is that this is still playable.

So number.  Much wang.  Amaze.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 20, 2014, 11:33:02 pm
http://louhuang.com/2048-numberwang/

And I suppose that was inevitable, wasn't it?

The awesome thing is that this is still playable.

I had no idea mitchell and webb was that well known. I feel like such a winner playing this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 20, 2014, 11:59:28 pm
OK well, it is mostly playable.  The scoring system seems different and the big blocks sometimes collapse into smaller blocks somehow.  Not sure if it's random or if it just wraps around.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 21, 2014, 12:30:08 am
OK well, it is mostly playable.  The scoring system seems different and the big blocks sometimes collapse into smaller blocks somehow.  Not sure if it's random or if it just wraps around.

I was just wangernumbed. It just went up and down and it seems random when the big ones collapse onto the smaller ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 21, 2014, 12:52:45 am
OK well, it is mostly playable.  The scoring system seems different and the big blocks sometimes collapse into smaller blocks somehow.  Not sure if it's random or if it just wraps around.

I was just wangernumbed. It just went up and down and it seems random when the big ones collapse onto the smaller ones.
It's the same exact game, but the displayed numbers are randomized instead of what they should be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 21, 2014, 01:12:21 am
OK well, it is mostly playable.  The scoring system seems different and the big blocks sometimes collapse into smaller blocks somehow.  Not sure if it's random or if it just wraps around.

I was just wangernumbed. It just went up and down and it seems random when the big ones collapse onto the smaller ones.
It's the same exact game, but the displayed numbers are randomized instead of what they should be.

It's not.  It's mostly like that, but sometimes the big ones break down.  I had a bright yellow (512 or 1024, not sure which) collapse into a red (64), for example.  Sometimes I had oranges (16 or 32) collapse into whites (2).

The scoring is also modified.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 21, 2014, 03:46:49 am
OK well, it is mostly playable.  The scoring system seems different and the big blocks sometimes collapse into smaller blocks somehow.  Not sure if it's random or if it just wraps around.

I was just wangernumbed. It just went up and down and it seems random when the big ones collapse onto the smaller ones.
It's the same exact game, but the displayed numbers are randomized instead of what they should be.

It's not.  It's mostly like that, but sometimes the big ones break down.  I had a bright yellow (512 or 1024, not sure which) collapse into a red (64), for example.  Sometimes I had oranges (16 or 32) collapse into whites (2).

The scoring is also modified.


Let's rotate the board!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: wojtekp on March 21, 2014, 07:07:05 am
Hello everyone, I just registered here and I hope that I will learn more about dominion. In my country(Poland) we don't have big community and I cant share my opinion there.
 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 21, 2014, 08:52:44 am
Hello everyone, I just registered here and I hope that I will learn more about dominion. In my country(Poland) we don't have big community and I cant share my opinion there.

Welcome, wojtekp!

I would recommend that you introduce yourself at this board (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=24.0).  Looking forward to your contributions :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 21, 2014, 09:32:33 am
Hello everyone, I just registered here and I hope that I will learn more about dominion. In my country(Poland) we don't have big community and I cant share my opinion there.

Welcome! There's a board for everything. Like Sir Peebles just link to the introductions board. You can certainly say what you like here. But if people disagree don't take it as attacking you. Many people have said wrong things, including myself, and if you post people will try to correct you nicely. Just a heads up that people here aren't hostile and try to discuss intelligently and enjoyably.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: yed on March 21, 2014, 10:15:37 am
I need to finish my diploma thesis. So I announce that I won't be playing Dominion until 10th of April (deadline). Only exception will be my GokoDom matches.

Hope this public announcement helps... Dominion is always one click away...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 21, 2014, 10:25:29 am
I need to finish my diploma thesis. So I announce that I won't be playing Dominion until 10th of April (deadline). Only exception will be my GokoDom matches.

Hope this public announcement helps... Dominion is always one click away...

What is your topic?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: yed on March 21, 2014, 10:30:09 am
I need to finish my diploma thesis. So I announce that I won't be playing Dominion until 10th of April (deadline). Only exception will be my GokoDom matches.

Hope this public announcement helps... Dominion is always one click away...

What is your topic?
HelenOS VFS-FUSE connector
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on March 21, 2014, 11:45:05 am
Luckily I have about one mmonth more for my bachelor thesis.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 21, 2014, 01:23:01 pm
In case you were wondering how the discovery of "different levels of infinity" started:

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140216.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 21, 2014, 05:50:27 pm
I seem to have spent all evening packing yet I have only got 3 half full boxes

I think I am trying to be too ordered, making sure every box is the same sort of thing!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 21, 2014, 05:57:42 pm
I seem to have spent all evening packing yet I have only got 3 half full boxes

I think I am trying to be too ordered, making sure every box is the same sort of thing!
If you have 2 boxes of the same thing, you can combine them to one heaver box that takes up half the space. Make sure they're next to each other first though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 21, 2014, 10:26:26 pm
http://xkcd.com/980/huge/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on March 22, 2014, 09:53:02 am
I seem to have spent all evening packing yet I have only got 3 half full boxes

I think I am trying to be too ordered, making sure every box is the same sort of thing!

Yeah, that is why it is best to have a friend help you pack.  They don't care about ordering and organizing, they just throw stuff in boxes to help expedite the process.  (at least that is what I do when I help friends pack)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 22, 2014, 11:30:13 am
This is old, but I just found it for the first time.

http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/cursor_invisible

Personal record is 208 at the moment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 22, 2014, 11:38:48 am
This is old, but I just found it for the first time.

http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/cursor_invisible

Personal record is 208 at the moment.

Using a touch screen feels like cheating.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 22, 2014, 12:31:25 pm
Onemorelevel still exists?  Wow.

(Kongregate is probably the best centralized flash game hub)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 22, 2014, 05:03:29 pm
This is old, but I just found it for the first time.

http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/cursor_invisible

Personal record is 208 at the moment.

Great, now I have to explain why I reformatted the boot drive.

They told me making a shortcut for that was a bad idea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on March 23, 2014, 12:49:47 am
So I decided to log onto warcraft III for the first time in a couple of years... I can't believe people still play it!  There were over 5000 people online when I logged in... and people are still playing Dota!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 23, 2014, 05:41:53 am

(http://i.imgur.com/rDh3P2S.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on March 23, 2014, 11:28:42 am
That's what I'm talking about!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 23, 2014, 11:44:55 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTM14lwCpbk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 23, 2014, 04:23:03 pm
I'm feeling lied to.  Way back when I first learned special relativity, I was taught that general relativity was necessary to resolve the Twin Paradox because one of the twins is accelerating.  This month I finally got around to learning the basics of general relativity; when I decided to think about the Twin Paradox I realized that you don't need general relativity at all since the spacetime is completely flat.  You just need to compute the lengths of the twins' respective world lines.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 23, 2014, 05:47:06 pm
I'm feeling lied to.  Way back when I first learned special relativity, I was taught that general relativity was necessary to resolve the Twin Paradox because one of the twins is accelerating.  This month I finally got around to learning the basics of general relativity; when I decided to think about the Twin Paradox I realized that you don't need general relativity at all since the spacetime is completely flat.  You just need to compute the lengths of the twins' respective world lines.

Well, what you previously thought was correct was...

(http://jennelala.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/david_caruso_sunglasses.jpg)

...relatively true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on March 24, 2014, 12:59:29 am
I've got nothing on Jimmm on Florrat, but I beat 2048

(http://i.imgur.com/tp2gj39.png?1?6950)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 25, 2014, 02:56:17 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-6-viral-internet-meme-stars-actually-look-like-2013-2?op=1
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 25, 2014, 03:02:28 pm
http://mentalfloss.com/article/30155/9-regular-people-who-became-memes
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 25, 2014, 03:03:38 pm
My employer inflicted me with an iPad yesterday. What a total piece of shit. What in the hell are iLovers smoking? I am trying to figure out how to politely give this thing back.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 25, 2014, 03:50:25 pm
What in the hell are iLovers smoking?

Mostly weed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on March 25, 2014, 04:08:28 pm
My employer inflicted me with an iPad yesterday. What a total piece of shit. What in the hell are iLovers smoking? I am trying to figure out how to politely give this thing back.
I love my ipad, what's your issue with it? I pretty much exclusively use it to watch dominion videos or basketball in bed, but I feel that's easily enough as I've had it for almost 3 years now and I use it for those purposes almost every day.

For what's it worth, I also like weed./size]
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 25, 2014, 04:09:56 pm
http://mentalfloss.com/article/30155/9-regular-people-who-became-memes

I don't think Jimmy McMillan counts.  He founded his own political party and ran for governor of New York.  He's not exactly a "regular person" in the sense of the others on the list.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on March 25, 2014, 04:17:31 pm
I'm feeling lied to.  Way back when I first learned special relativity, I was taught that general relativity was necessary to resolve the Twin Paradox because one of the twins is accelerating.  This month I finally got around to learning the basics of general relativity; when I decided to think about the Twin Paradox I realized that you don't need general relativity at all since the spacetime is completely flat.  You just need to compute the lengths of the twins' respective world lines.

Well, what you previously thought was correct was...

(http://jennelala.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/david_caruso_sunglasses.jpg)

...relatively true.
(http://giant.gfycat.com/ContentWildArmyworm.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 25, 2014, 04:33:24 pm
Mostly weed.

For what's it worth, I also like weed./size]

Weed makes you like Apple products? I guess I shouldn't start smoking it then.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 25, 2014, 04:40:41 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26723457

I tried to beat cancer and all I got was this lousy polar bear.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 25, 2014, 04:44:48 pm
I too totally love my iPad

My table has never wobbled again!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 25, 2014, 04:46:12 pm
But actually when I bought it a few years back I had no idea what I would do with it, but it has pretty much changed my habits. I can watch films in the bath, browse the Internet from the sofa or bed, play games to soak up 15 mins or so. It has some great board gaming apps

Oh and quiz up
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 25, 2014, 05:32:29 pm
Oh, I love mobile computing. Coming from Android their is a distinct lack of control, customization or even utility. The dock is tumor that can't be tweaked in any way. The keyboard is awful. Try setting up a ssh tunnel and forwarding specific traffic through. Haha, sucker, Apple decided you don't need that degree of access to the system. Battery and screen are amazing and I like that here is no right side up. Other than that it pales in every single way to Android. Also if you can actually find an app worth using it costs triple as you would find it in play store for if it weren't free. No Firefox for god's sake. Did I mention the keyboard is terrible?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 25, 2014, 05:38:55 pm
Well, if you use all that stuff for work then its not a very good choice.

Ipads pro's are its simple and easy to use, but the cost of that is customisability, which sounds like its important to you. Me, i never use all that stuff on my tablet or phone.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 25, 2014, 06:16:08 pm
The phrase "if you think [whatever], you've got another thing coming" was originally "another think coming".

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 25, 2014, 06:35:03 pm
http://m.tickld.com/x/25-signs-made-funnier-by-people-number-7-is-priceless
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 25, 2014, 06:41:13 pm
http://m.tickld.com/x/25-signs-made-funnier-by-people-number-7-is-priceless

Related:

(http://cdn1-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2014/01/caution-wet-floor-pool.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 25, 2014, 08:53:16 pm
Well, if you use all that stuff for work then its not a very good choice.

Ipads pro's are its simple and easy to use, but the cost of that is customisability, which sounds like its important to you. Me, i never use all that stuff on my tablet or phone.

I forgot to mention the worst of all. You seriously have to install itunes on a host computer to move files onto the device. Absolutely unacceptable. My android device allows me to drop files directly onto it if USB connected and otherwise I can use FTP or rsync or a network browser to do it remotely and wirelessly. iOS is in the dark ages in this regard. For example I found a ssh app that used private keys and allowed port forwarding but I had to side load the private key with iTunes. There was no alternative. Requiring third party software and a tether to effectively use the device is asinine and I am bewildered that people stand for it.

Any tablet will let you surf in bed. Why pay $900 for the Apple tablet to do that? For the premium charged there should be an expectation of increased utility when it is precisely the opposite.

On my way to birthing class tonight I remotely streamed music from home server wirelessly to my car stereo. Basic DLNA through a secure tunnel. Impossible on iOS. Yet Apple would have you believe they are media centric. I laugh in their general direction.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 25, 2014, 09:15:57 pm
To be fair, after some research it appears much of what I would like to accomplish becomes feasible with a jailbroken device. I should note that my Android device is rooted although a great deal of the desired functionality doesn't require root privileges whereas the iOS device would.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 25, 2014, 09:28:31 pm
http://m.tickld.com/x/25-signs-made-funnier-by-people-number-7-is-priceless

Ugh, I am really annoyed by this latest twist on the viral list where they tell you that some particular item on the list will be funny.  I'm pretty sure that the number is just chosen arbitrarily from the middle somewhere, since it never seems to be a particular funny item.  It is just there to get you to persevere through a few.  And in this instance it is worse than usual since the items aren't even numbered.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 25, 2014, 09:31:21 pm
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the  early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the  attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently  repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.”  There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech,  although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its  reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from  general acceptance.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on March 25, 2014, 09:43:16 pm
Coming from Android their is a distinct lack of control, customization or even utility.
Yes, if you value control and customization, then an iPad is the wrong choice and an Android tablet is the right choice. That has nothing to do with the quality of the device, just that it's the wrong device for your needs.

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Any tablet will let you surf in bed. Why pay $900 for the Apple tablet to do that?
This just makes me think you're being obtuse, though. The only way to even spend $900 on an iPad is to include absolutely every option (Cellular, 128GB, latest model), which does come out to $929. That's overkill for surfing in bed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on March 25, 2014, 10:09:34 pm
Ipads pro's are its simple and easy to use, but the cost of that is customisability and money
FTFY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 25, 2014, 10:20:54 pm
The phrase "if you think [whatever], you've got another thing coming" was originally "another think coming".

So you're saying I shouldn't rely on the literacy of Judas Priest to get through the day?

But that does bug me, yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 26, 2014, 07:04:18 am
Coming from Android their is a distinct lack of control, customization or even utility.
Yes, if you value control and customization, then an iPad is the wrong choice and an Android tablet is the right choice. That has nothing to do with the quality of the device, just that it's the wrong device for your needs.

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Any tablet will let you surf in bed. Why pay $900 for the Apple tablet to do that?
This just makes me think you're being obtuse, though. The only way to even spend $900 on an iPad is to include absolutely every option (Cellular, 128GB, latest model), which does come out to $929. That's overkill for surfing in bed.

I think I see what you are saying. The average bed surfer gets the $400 model that is somewhat competitive with the top end Android devices on price but not features. It still makes no sense. Why not spend $150 for the equally equipped Android? And price comparisons aside, what about Apple devices is attractive over Android? I'll give you that money is no object and you have no desire to control or customize. What makes you choose Apple then?

As for being obtuse, no, I just understand how technology works and see no point in buying anything less than the most fully equipped model of whatever it is unless I really am looking to solve a very specific problem where no overkill is needed. The overkill today just barely makes spec next week for whatever it is you want to do. My employer insisted I have the top model in this device. I should note my primary use here is 3D model manipulation and toting full sets of CAD DWGs onto remote job sites. Cellular is mandatory and 128GB is approaching paltry. Wonder how this thing will stack up in a year?

No expandable storage is another head scratcher here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 26, 2014, 08:38:47 am
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 26, 2014, 08:59:26 am
The phrase "if you think [whatever], you've got another thing coming" was originally "another think coming".

What do you mean "originally"?  I believe "thing" has always been considered incorrect.

(Looks at grammarist)

WTF?  What is wrong with people these days??  I guess we can't speak or write correctly any longer.

Non-English speakers, since we have a bunch here:  do you have the same problems in your language, where people hear something wrong, then keep repeating it incorrectly, even now in the age of print?  Should I give up on English, or are other languages basically the same?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 26, 2014, 09:37:29 am
Classic; "I could care less". Good for you because I couldn't so you keep dealing with it. That always confuses them.

Also, the misuse of the word ironic. 99% of the time what they meant to say was coincidental and .5% of the time they meant undesirable. I blame Alanis Morrisette.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 26, 2014, 09:43:06 am
Classic; "I could care less". Good for you because I couldn't so you keep dealing with it. That always confuses them.

Also, the misuse of the word ironic. 99% of the time what they meant to say was coincidental and .5% of the time they meant undesirable. I blame Alanis Morrisette.

Alanis Morrisette's song is clearly meta-ironic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 26, 2014, 09:46:52 am
Non-English speakers, since we have a bunch here:  do you have the same problems in your language, where people hear something wrong, then keep repeating it incorrectly, even now in the age of print?  Should I give up on English, or are other languages basically the same?

Yes. It's called the evolution of language. It's really not a big deal, it's been happening for centuries.

There are seriously countless examples in French of meaning changing over time because people misuse words.When it happens currently with new spellings/meanings added to the dictionary, people act as if the sky is falling and people these days can't speak properly, when really it's just how languages work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 26, 2014, 10:57:58 am
The phrase "if you think [whatever], you've got another thing coming" was originally "another think coming".

What do you mean "originally"?  I believe "thing" has always been considered incorrect.

(Looks at grammarist)

WTF?  What is wrong with people these days??  I guess we can't speak or write correctly any longer.

Non-English speakers, since we have a bunch here:  do you have the same problems in your language, where people hear something wrong, then keep repeating it incorrectly, even now in the age of print?  Should I give up on English, or are other languages basically the same?

Well, this is a phrase where the original was intentionally incorrect, grammatically. Whereas "thing" fits grammatically and makes sense. I'd never heard or read the phrase with "think" instead, until recently.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on March 26, 2014, 12:55:40 pm
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html
any idea what the formula is for how mathematicians affect ticks?  I'm trying to build spreadsheets, because my alternative is doing work :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 26, 2014, 12:56:08 pm
Non-English speakers, since we have a bunch here:  do you have the same problems in your language, where people hear something wrong, then keep repeating it incorrectly, even now in the age of print?  Should I give up on English, or are other languages basically the same?
I don't think mishearing things is a big problem in Finnish since the pronunciation of Finnish words is so simple. However, we have a different but similar problem: people hear a word correctly, but don't know what it means and assume its meaning wrong, usually because they are familiar with a similar English word which has a different meaning. For example, it is pretty common to see "pateettinen" (epic, pompous, melodramatic) being used as the equivalent of pathetic.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 26, 2014, 01:02:37 pm
Classic; "I could care less". Good for you because I couldn't so you keep dealing with it. That always confuses them.

Also, the misuse of the word ironic. 99% of the time what they meant to say was coincidental and .5% of the time they meant undesirable. I blame Alanis Morrisette.

"I could care less" is very annoying. I feel like screaming in grammatical pain when someone says it, especially on TV of the radio.

George Carlin had a great example of irony. Someone being rushed to the hospital for an emergency and the ambulance is hit by a truck, that's not ironic. A diabetic being rushed to the hospital and the ambulance is hit by a truck full of insulin, that's ironic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 26, 2014, 01:09:44 pm
I could care less about what you think of my use of the phrase "I could care less".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 26, 2014, 01:12:10 pm
I could care less about what you think of my use of the phrase "I could care less".

Thank you for your concern.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 26, 2014, 01:22:01 pm
I'm bothered that "I could care less" and "I couldn't care less" have the same meaning.

Kind of like "I'm up for that" and "I'm down with that"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 26, 2014, 01:26:58 pm
I'm bothered that "I could care less" and "I couldn't care less" have the same meaning.

Kind of like "I'm up for that" and "I'm down with that"

Yeah, but "I'm down with that" and "I'm up for that" are more like street slang than a misunderstanding of the language and expressions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 26, 2014, 01:27:53 pm
Non-English speakers, since we have a bunch here:  do you have the same problems in your language, where people hear something wrong, then keep repeating it incorrectly, even now in the age of print?  Should I give up on English, or are other languages basically the same?
I don't think mishearing things is a big problem in Finnish since the pronunciation of Finnish words is so simple. However, we have a different but similar problem: people hear a word correctly, but don't know what it means and assume its meaning wrong, usually because they are familiar with a similar English word which has a different meaning. For example, it is pretty common to see "pateettinen" (epic, pompous, melodramatic) being used as the equivalent of pathetic.



Oh yes, we have that too, called "anglicisme". One that is particularly noteworthy is "assume". People are now using the French verb "assumer" with the English meaning (instead of using "présumer" or "supposer"), when what it actually means is... well, a little hard to translate, but has nothing to do with "assume". The best translation I could come up with is "taking responsibility for your actions". So yeah, that's quite a leap.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 26, 2014, 01:29:11 pm
Non-English speakers, since we have a bunch here:  do you have the same problems in your language, where people hear something wrong, then keep repeating it incorrectly, even now in the age of print?  Should I give up on English, or are other languages basically the same?
I don't think mishearing things is a big problem in Finnish since the pronunciation of Finnish words is so simple. However, we have a different but similar problem: people hear a word correctly, but don't know what it means and assume its meaning wrong, usually because they are familiar with a similar English word which has a different meaning. For example, it is pretty common to see "pateettinen" (epic, pompous, melodramatic) being used as the equivalent of pathetic.



Oh yes, we have that too, called "anglicisme". One that is particularly noteworthy is "assume". People are now using the French verb "assumer" with the English meaning (instead of using "présumer" or "supposer"), when what it actually means is... well, a little hard to translate, but has nothing to do with "assume". The best translation I could come up with is "taking responsibility for your actions". So yeah, that's quite a leap.

There's a lot of that here in Quebec.  Quebecois french has a lot of anglicism.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 26, 2014, 02:01:17 pm
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html
I can almost deal with the fact that I have more Mathematicians than there are people in the world, but having 10 000 Kurt Gödels is pretty mindblowing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 26, 2014, 02:11:47 pm
5 seconds in, and I'm probably making more than the median mathematician.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 26, 2014, 02:12:37 pm
I'm bothered that "I could care less" and "I couldn't care less" have the same meaning.

Kind of like "I'm up for that" and "I'm down with that"

Unlike the example with "another think coming", I think a lot of people still consider "I could care less" to be an error.

"I'm up for that" and "I'm down with that" don't mean the same thing to me.  The former means "I'd like to do that activity" while the latter more broadly means "I agree".  "Down for that" would match the former, but I see them as parts of different metaphors.  "I'm up for that" means that I am happy (up) with the plan.  "I'm down for that" means that you can put my name down on the sign-up list.

That's just how I think of them though.  No idea if they are even remotely correct.

Non-English speakers, since we have a bunch here:  do you have the same problems in your language, where people hear something wrong, then keep repeating it incorrectly, even now in the age of print?  Should I give up on English, or are other languages basically the same?
I don't think mishearing things is a big problem in Finnish since the pronunciation of Finnish words is so simple. However, we have a different but similar problem: people hear a word correctly, but don't know what it means and assume its meaning wrong, usually because they are familiar with a similar English word which has a different meaning. For example, it is pretty common to see "pateettinen" (epic, pompous, melodramatic) being used as the equivalent of pathetic.



Oh yes, we have that too, called "anglicisme". One that is particularly noteworthy is "assume". People are now using the French verb "assumer" with the English meaning (instead of using "présumer" or "supposer"), when what it actually means is... well, a little hard to translate, but has nothing to do with "assume". The best translation I could come up with is "taking responsibility for your actions". So yeah, that's quite a leap.

FWIW, one English definition of assume matches your definition for assumer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 26, 2014, 03:23:50 pm
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html
I can almost deal with the fact that I have more Mathematicians than there are people in the world, but having 10 000 Kurt Gödels is pretty mindblowing.

I'm glad they included him Gödel the game; it would have felt incomplete without him.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 26, 2014, 03:37:58 pm
Learned about a board game called Oneupmanship.  It... might be a satire?  But it's also being sold for $50 so... I don't know.

Go look it up.  It's incredible.  Spoilers:

It's like a monopoly clone gone wrong.
There's a rule that says you can declare bankruptcy at any time... and force all other players to also go bankrupt.  And the game doesn't end.
The game comes with a bottle of pills.  That you are supposed to take.  With no indication of what those pills actually are.  I am not making this up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 26, 2014, 03:45:42 pm
Learned about a board game called Oneupmanship.  It... might be a satire?  But it's also being sold for $50 so... I don't know.

Go look it up.  It's incredible.  Spoilers:

It's like a monopoly clone gone wrong.
There's a rule that says you can declare bankruptcy at any time... and force all other players to also go bankrupt.  And the game doesn't end.
The game comes with a bottle of pills.  That you are supposed to take.  With no indication of what those pills actually are.  I am not making this up.

BGG comments are interesting: http://boardgamegeek.com/collection/items/boardgame/144110?comment=1
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 26, 2014, 04:17:51 pm
Learned about a board game called Oneupmanship.  It... might be a satire?  But it's also being sold for $50 so... I don't know.

Go look it up.  It's incredible.  Spoilers:

It's like a monopoly clone gone wrong.
There's a rule that says you can declare bankruptcy at any time... and force all other players to also go bankrupt.  And the game doesn't end.
The game comes with a bottle of pills.  That you are supposed to take.  With no indication of what those pills actually are.  I am not making this up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18b0XYf05tA
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 26, 2014, 04:23:36 pm
Well, this is a phrase where the original was intentionally incorrect, grammatically. Whereas "thing" fits grammatically and makes sense. I'd never heard or read the phrase with "think" instead, until recently.

It's not unheard of to use a word as a noun. It's like saying, "Don't I get a say in the matter?" I think that's probably the closest example to "another think coming." There are also things like, "Giving the dog a wash," and, "Going for a drive," though I think that those words are designed to be nouns as well.

Although, according to dictionary.com, "think" is also a noun, so it's not wrong at all.

And I do feel that it makes more sense to say, "you've got another think coming," since you start off with, "if you think that way…" So why wouldn't you follow it up with "think"? "Thing" is just so vague, while "think" is really focusing on what was said earlier.

I'm trying to disabuse people of spelling, "Just desserts," but that is a quixotic attempt. But now I'm in the mood for some French silk pie.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 26, 2014, 04:31:31 pm
Well, this is a phrase where the original was intentionally incorrect, grammatically. Whereas "thing" fits grammatically and makes sense. I'd never heard or read the phrase with "think" instead, until recently.

It's not unheard of to use a word as a noun. It's like saying, "Don't I get a say in the matter?" I think that's probably the closest example to "another think coming." There are also things like, "Giving the dog a wash," and, "Going for a drive," though I think that those words are designed to be nouns as well.

Although, according to dictionary.com, "think" is also a noun, so it's not wrong at all.

And I do feel that it makes more sense to say, "you've got another think coming," since you start off with, "if you think that way…" So why wouldn't you follow it up with "think"? "Thing" is just so vague, while "think" is really focusing on what was said earlier.

I'm trying to disabuse people of spelling, "Just desserts," but that is a quixotic attempt. But now I'm in the mood for some French silk pie.

"If you think [X], you've got another thing coming", where this other thing is what you will get instead of X.  So the meaning is actually a bit different from the original, which is basically saying, "if you think [X], think again".  The phrase with "thing" is more like saying "you're going to be surprised".

dictionary.com's listing for think as a noun says that it is informal, and it's uncommonly used as far as I know.  Might be a regional thing, or maybe it was more common in the past.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 26, 2014, 04:38:16 pm
VPN is the secret elixir of getting things done on an iPad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 26, 2014, 05:11:22 pm
Also, the misuse of the word ironic. 99% of the time what they meant to say was coincidental and .5% of the time they meant undesirable. I blame Alanis Morrisette.

I know some people who are pretty stingy about the use of "ironic." Literarily, however, it has several meanings that allow it to be used more broadly. Dramatic irony is simply when the audience knows something that a character does not. Situational irony is when an outcome is the opposite of expected or intended. Ironic situations abound, although that does make it a little worse when the word is misused.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 26, 2014, 05:29:16 pm
I love that Dsell just used "literally" correctly when defending the broad use of "ironic". So meta !
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 26, 2014, 05:30:13 pm

FWIW, one English definition of assume matches your definition for assumer.

It does ? I guess that's not very surprising, but I've never heard it used that way in English.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 26, 2014, 05:34:16 pm
I love that Dsell just used "literally" correctly when defending the broad use of "ironic". So meta !
"Literarily" is literally not "literally".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on March 26, 2014, 05:35:59 pm
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html
any idea what the formula is for how mathematicians affect ticks?  I'm trying to build spreadsheets, because my alternative is doing work :)
I found the function.  On the plus side, this exercise has perhaps taught me some things about coding?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 26, 2014, 05:36:33 pm

FWIW, one English definition of assume matches your definition for assumer.

It does ? I guess that's not very surprising, but I've never heard it used that way in English.

1. to take for granted or without proof: to assume that everyone wants peace. Synonyms: suppose, presuppose; postulate, posit.
2. to take upon oneself; undertake: to assume an obligation.
3. to take over the duties or responsibilities of: to assume the office of treasurer.
4. to take on (a particular character, quality, mode of life, etc.); adopt: He assumed the style of an aggressive go-getter.
5. to take on; be invested or endowed with: The situation assumed a threatening character.

Number 2 or 3 sound pretty close to what you were talking about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 26, 2014, 05:45:29 pm
Learned about a board game called Oneupmanship.  It... might be a satire?  But it's also being sold for $50 so... I don't know.

Go look it up.  It's incredible.  Spoilers:

It's like a monopoly clone gone wrong.
There's a rule that says you can declare bankruptcy at any time... and force all other players to also go bankrupt.  And the game doesn't end.
The game comes with a bottle of pills.  That you are supposed to take.  With no indication of what those pills actually are.  I am not making this up.
[Vasel Review]

So I decided, because I have a lot of morbid curiosity about things, to take a look around the rest of their website.  And... I just don't know what to say other that this:

The people who created this game are the pinnacle of the word "douchebro."  They fit the frat-boy stereotype to a T.  They are rich: their headquarters is in one of the richest towns in the richest state in the US, where the median household income tops $200,000.  As classist elites, many of their jokes seem to be founded on the belief that those at the top of the income scale are the best no matter how that money came about.

For all appearances, this isn't satire.  They actually, truly believe this is an amazing product, and that we should be basking in the glow of their awesomeness.
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Post by: Witherweaver on March 26, 2014, 05:49:57 pm
Learned about a board game called Oneupmanship.  It... might be a satire?  But it's also being sold for $50 so... I don't know.

Go look it up.  It's incredible.  Spoilers:

It's like a monopoly clone gone wrong.
There's a rule that says you can declare bankruptcy at any time... and force all other players to also go bankrupt.  And the game doesn't end.
The game comes with a bottle of pills.  That you are supposed to take.  With no indication of what those pills actually are.  I am not making this up.
[Vasel Review]

So I decided, because I have a lot of morbid curiosity about things, to take a look around the rest of their website.  And... I just don't know what to say other that this:

The people who created this game are the pinnacle of the word "douchebro."  They fit the frat-boy stereotype to a T.  They are rich: their headquarters is in one of the richest towns in the richest state in the US, where the median household income tops $200,000.  As classist elites, many of their jokes seem to be founded on the belief that those at the top of the income scale are the best no matter how that money came about.

For all appearances, this isn't satire.  They actually, truly believe this is an amazing product, and that we should be basking in the glow of their awesomeness.

The Amazon reviews are even more interesting.  Most reviews are 1 star.  Four 5-star reviews, all of which come from users that only reviewed this product or reviewed one other product.

http://www.amazon.com/Oneupmanship-ONEUPMANSHIP/dp/B00HUAANMI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395870564&sr=8-1&keywords=oneupmanship
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Post by: Teproc on March 26, 2014, 05:54:46 pm
I love that Dsell just used "literally" correctly when defending the broad use of "ironic". So meta !
"Literarily" is literally not "literally".

I obviously know that, I was being clever...

...

...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 26, 2014, 06:07:38 pm
I verb'd a new word today when describing packing efficiently and saying i totally tetris'd all my stuff in my room
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 26, 2014, 06:21:42 pm
So I decided, because I have a lot of morbid curiosity about things, to take a look around the rest of their website.  And... I just don't know what to say other that this:

The people who created this game are the pinnacle of the word "douchebro."  They fit the frat-boy stereotype to a T.  They are rich: their headquarters is in one of the richest towns in the richest state in the US, where the median household income tops $200,000.  As classist elites, many of their jokes seem to be founded on the belief that those at the top of the income scale are the best no matter how that money came about.

For all appearances, this isn't satire.  They actually, truly believe this is an amazing product, and that we should be basking in the glow of their awesomeness.

I did this too. A gem from their game blog:

"My contribution to society, which up to now has been minimal, is going to be a sly, spicy, heterodoxical, real-world board game that'll be the perfect antidote to the namby-pamby mush that passes for entertainment these days."

Now that's irony.
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Post by: Qvist on March 26, 2014, 06:26:31 pm
[Tom Vasel review]

Time: FOREVER
Game type: Not

Haha, that was a good laugh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on March 26, 2014, 06:35:49 pm
I think it's a case of something being funny on paper but not as a game. I guess you could debate wether or not an extreme parody of Monopoly is even funny in and of itself, but I doubt the designer played the game even once, it's probably just "What if we made a ludicrous version of Monopoly ? That could be fun, right ?"

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 26, 2014, 06:55:44 pm
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/679059551/oneupmanship-mines-bigger-alpha-males-only

Their kickstarter claims it's satire. After watching the videos there, I think they don't know what satire is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 26, 2014, 07:16:02 pm
Coming from Android their is a distinct lack of control, customization or even utility.
Yes, if you value control and customization, then an iPad is the wrong choice and an Android tablet is the right choice. That has nothing to do with the quality of the device, just that it's the wrong device for your needs.

Quote
Any tablet will let you surf in bed. Why pay $900 for the Apple tablet to do that?
This just makes me think you're being obtuse, though. The only way to even spend $900 on an iPad is to include absolutely every option (Cellular, 128GB, latest model), which does come out to $929. That's overkill for surfing in bed.

I think I see what you are saying. The average bed surfer gets the $400 model that is somewhat competitive with the top end Android devices on price but not features. It still makes no sense. Why not spend $150 for the equally equipped Android? And price comparisons aside, what about Apple devices is attractive over Android? I'll give you that money is no object and you have no desire to control or customize. What makes you choose Apple then?

As for being obtuse, no, I just understand how technology works and see no point in buying anything less than the most fully equipped model of whatever it is unless I really am looking to solve a very specific problem where no overkill is needed. The overkill today just barely makes spec next week for whatever it is you want to do. My employer insisted I have the top model in this device. I should note my primary use here is 3D model manipulation and toting full sets of CAD DWGs onto remote job sites. Cellular is mandatory and 128GB is approaching paltry. Wonder how this thing will stack up in a year?

No expandable storage is another head scratcher here.

Can an Android tablet run iOS apps?  That's all I need a tablet to do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on March 26, 2014, 07:32:28 pm
Can an Android tablet run iOS apps?  That's all I need a tablet to do.

I hear ya. The reason I got this device is the Autodesk app I need has no Android equivalent. There are definitely some superior apps in the App Store. I'm not sure there are any real killers though. Do you know of any?
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Post by: Axxle on March 26, 2014, 07:41:42 pm
It's a lot easier to develop for the iOS since it has such a wider audience and the hardware isn't varied like with Android, thus why there are a lot of aps that only exist there or are just better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on March 26, 2014, 07:45:37 pm
iOs doesn't have a wider audience, only an audience that is more willing to pay money.
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Post by: Axxle on March 26, 2014, 07:47:07 pm
iOs doesn't have a wider audience, only an audience that is more willing to pay money.
I'm calling the audience fat.

edit: Yeah, that's actually what I meant. There's more money in iOS than Android in most cases.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 26, 2014, 07:52:13 pm
iOs doesn't have a wider audience, only an audience that is more willing to pay money.

It has a wider audience by platform though doesnt it?
There are lots more android devices but all running different software and screen sizes that makes it hard to standardise
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 26, 2014, 08:25:41 pm
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html
any idea what the formula is for how mathematicians affect ticks?  I'm trying to build spreadsheets, because my alternative is doing work :)
I found the function.  On the plus side, this exercise has perhaps taught me some things about coding?

What is the function? I haven't put too much effort into optimising and building a spreadsheet, but then again maybe I haven't been playing long enough. The game has gotten my curiousity at least.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on March 26, 2014, 10:15:40 pm
I love that Dsell just used "literally" correctly when defending the broad use of "ironic". So meta !

Relevant:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WFLcce77BF4
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on March 26, 2014, 11:37:33 pm
Even with all this iOS vs. Android talk, I'm still forced to used a Blackberry for work.  What a horrible thing that is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 27, 2014, 12:02:53 am
http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm
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Post by: Jimmmmm on March 27, 2014, 12:10:11 am
http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm

"Garment is hooped to loosley"?
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Post by: Dsell on March 27, 2014, 12:14:54 am
http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm

"Garment is hooped to loosley"?

You are focusing on the wrong damn thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on March 27, 2014, 12:17:33 am
I verb'd a new word today when describing packing efficiently and saying i totally tetris'd all my stuff in my room

I've been using Tetris as a verb for years so...this is my first direct proof that you're me, too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 27, 2014, 12:18:54 am
http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm

"Garment is hooped to loosley"?

You are focusing on the wrong damn thing.

Yeah.  Didn't you notice how all the text is centered?  Terrible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on March 27, 2014, 12:19:40 am
http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm

"Garment is hooped to loosley"?

You are focusing on the wrong damn thing.

How can that happen on accident? Honest question.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on March 27, 2014, 12:20:36 am
http://www.sewingandembroiderywarehouse.com/embtrb.htm

"Garment is hooped to loosley"?

You are focusing on the wrong damn thing.

How can that happen on accident? Honest question.

Don't ask me! My roommate's examining the script and he said something about nesting fonts, and not previously knowing that that was possible. Or something. All I know is it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 27, 2014, 12:30:12 am
Who wants to take the challenge of reading the last sentence?

These are some of the normal problems you may experience during the embroidery process.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 27, 2014, 02:04:04 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmUbSud9Jk

Favourite parts were ATLA (of course), Doug/Rugrats, Magic School Bus/Futurama, and Looney Tunes at the end.  I don't recognize the Dragon Ball Z theme at all... maybe it's been too long.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on March 27, 2014, 04:51:39 am


How can that happen on accident? Honest question.

Don't ask me! My roommate's examining the script and he said something about nesting fonts, and not previously knowing that that was possible. Or something. All I know is it's hilarious.

Lots of tags haven't been closed properly, leaving the browser to guess where the closing tags should have been.  Something like that is probably the issue, but I haven't been able to recreate it starting from scratch.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 27, 2014, 07:33:06 am
Who wants to take the challenge of reading the last sentence?

These are some of the normal problems you may experience during the embroidery process.

If a problem persists, we recommend that you contact Sewing and Embroidery Warehouse
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 27, 2014, 08:49:55 am
I verb'd a new word today when describing packing efficiently and saying i totally tetris'd all my stuff in my room

I've been using Tetris as a verb for years so...this is my first direct proof that you're me, too.

There's a little bit of Ozle in each of us.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 27, 2014, 08:55:35 am
I verb'd a new word today when describing packing efficiently and saying i totally tetris'd all my stuff in my room

I've been using Tetris as a verb for years so...this is my first direct proof that you're me, too.

There's a little bit of Ozle in each of us.
Because each of us is Wandering Winder.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 27, 2014, 08:58:24 am
I verb'd a new word today when describing packing efficiently and saying i totally tetris'd all my stuff in my room

I've been using Tetris as a verb for years so...this is my first direct proof that you're me, too.

There's a little bit of Ozle in each of us.

Whoever has my dodgy left knee..... Bad luck!

I've still not actually worked out if I'm a figment of your collective imagination yet.... Bourne out of the need of all the nerd talk to have a gibberish outlet

It's driving me and the pink elephant crazy trying to work it out
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 27, 2014, 10:20:44 am
For all appearances, this isn't satire.  They actually, truly believe this is an amazing product, and that we should be basking in the glow of their awesomeness.

So this might be the board game equivalent of FATAL?

If you're not familiar with FATAL, it has been deemed one of the worst RPGs, in part because it's so awful and politically incorrect yet seemingly published with sincerity.

You can download it for free, but it's a terrible read. Reading the review on rpg.net is a much more productive (and humorous) use of your time.

Anything that makes Synnibar sound sane is a force to be reckoned with.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 27, 2014, 10:37:35 am
For all appearances, this isn't satire.  They actually, truly believe this is an amazing product, and that we should be basking in the glow of their awesomeness.

So this might be the board game equivalent of FATAL?

If you're not familiar with FATAL, it has been deemed one of the worst RPGs, in part because it's so awful and politically incorrect yet seemingly published with sincerity.

You can download it for free, but it's a terrible read. Reading the review on rpg.net is a much more productive (and humorous) use of your time.

Anything that makes Synnibar sound sane is a force to be reckoned with.


I do believe I've read that review, or possibly a similar one on ENWorld.  This is the one with tables for rolling for breast size and attempting rape, right?

I think that qualifies as worse than this board game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on March 27, 2014, 11:04:33 am
I think that qualifies as worse than this board game.

I've no doubt of that. I'm just focusing on the creator's sincere belief that he made a good game while everyone else just cringes.

Perhaps Ed Wood would have been a better comparison.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 27, 2014, 12:08:02 pm
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html
I can almost deal with the fact that I have more Mathematicians than there are people in the world, but having 10 000 Kurt Gödels is pretty mindblowing.

I'm glad they included him Gödel the game; it would have felt incomplete without him.

That may be by any metric, the reasons Riemann is superior are manifold.

But more seriously, this is an odd collection of mathematicians to include.  By historical standards, Wiles isnt all that exceptional.  He proved Fermat's Last Theorem, but while it was well known in the popular media it wasn't particularly important.  Godel's contributions are fundamental and revolutionary philosophically, but don't have much practical impact on mathematical work.  Riemann is absolutely amazing though.  But still, I would have except Archimedes, Euler, Gauss, or Hilbert over the first two.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 27, 2014, 03:54:16 pm
Wiles isnt all that exceptional...  Godel's contributions are fundamental and revolutionary philosophically, but don't have much practical impact... Riemann is absolutely amazing though.

So what you're saying is that they're arranged in an obvious hierarchy?  And that perhaps Euler would be in the next line down if there were a fifth derivative line?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 28, 2014, 08:16:22 am
(http://img1.etsystatic.com/022/0/7033288/il_570xN.479275323_38b4.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on March 28, 2014, 08:18:14 am
To the sewing machine!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on March 28, 2014, 10:11:52 am
(http://img1.etsystatic.com/022/0/7033288/il_570xN.479275323_38b4.jpg)

I want this more than anything I have ever wanted in my entire life...
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Post by: mcmcsalot on March 28, 2014, 04:01:52 pm
I want this more than anything I have ever wanted in my entire life...

Blegh it's like $200 and only looks good on super skinny people :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lews Therin Telamon on March 29, 2014, 04:53:31 pm
{insert random subject here}
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on March 29, 2014, 05:03:25 pm
{insert random subject here}
Now the pressure's off, and you can post your Bone Flute joke without the weight of it being your first post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 29, 2014, 06:46:05 pm
{insert random subject here}

{random response}

Oh hang on, that's all my responses anyway
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 29, 2014, 06:46:57 pm
Anyway, just game here to report my new house now has a games cupboard!!

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on March 29, 2014, 08:07:36 pm
Anyway, just game here to report my new house now has a games cupboard!!

Nice!

Congrats on the house! I am glad something worked out for you. I remember you were having trouble finding something reasonable to rent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 30, 2014, 04:09:46 am
Happy Mothers day to all the mothers here on F.DS (do we have any?)

Also happy clocks going forward day. I feel like a zombie. Urghh....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 30, 2014, 06:02:42 am
Happy Mothers day to all the mothers here on F.DS (do we have any?)

Also happy clocks going forward day. I feel like a zombie. Urghh....
??? Mother's Day is May
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on March 30, 2014, 10:10:38 am
Happy Mothers day to all the mothers here on F.DS (do we have any?)

Also happy clocks going forward day. I feel like a zombie. Urghh....
??? Mother's Day is May
Mother's Day is celebrated at different times in different countries. Tables is in the UK, where it's celebrated on the Fourth Sunday of Lent (which is today). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day#Dates_around_the_world
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on March 30, 2014, 11:56:01 am
Happy Mothers day to all the mothers here on F.DS (do we have any?)

Also happy clocks going forward day. I feel like a zombie. Urghh....
??? Mother's Day is May
Mother's Day is celebrated at different times in different countries. Tables is in the UK, where it's celebrated on the Fourth Sunday of Lent (which is today). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day#Dates_around_the_world

Also clocks went forward already in North America. Thanks US for making Canada change our clocks before the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on March 30, 2014, 03:33:27 pm
Can we stop changing our clocks? Is this still a thing that has any value?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 30, 2014, 03:34:25 pm
Can we stop changing our clocks? Is this still a thing that has any value?

Given the increase in medical and traffic issues occurring twice a year, I'm pretty certain it has negative value.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 30, 2014, 03:36:30 pm
One day a new political party will break through the Republican/Democrat strangehold in the US on a platform of ending daylight savings time and the penny.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 30, 2014, 03:40:27 pm
VVVVVV is now ridiculously broken. There's a new glitch that allows people to clip through some walls close to teleporters, which lets you skip some levels entirely. The old record was around 12 minutes, and the expected record is going to be under 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHqjWakc6cg

As for DST, the main benefit is more sunshine, which has a non-negligible effect on certain parts of the economy. No idea whether it's a net help or loss.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on March 30, 2014, 03:48:14 pm
As for DST, the main benefit is more sunshine, which has a non-negligible effect on certain parts of the economy. No idea whether it's a net help or loss.
Except that people can actually just shift the time they do things in the day....

End Daylight Savings. But even beyond this, just get rid of time zones altogether.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 30, 2014, 03:56:29 pm
Can we stop changing our clocks? Is this still a thing that has any value?

Given the increase in medical and traffic issues occurring twice a year, I'm pretty certain it has negative value.

Increase in medical and traffic issues?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 30, 2014, 03:57:27 pm
It's all about the farmers and working times.
Well it was in the uk, largely irrelevant now.

Every year we talk about just not doing it but it never happens
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 30, 2014, 03:58:21 pm
As for DST, the main benefit is more sunshine, which has a non-negligible effect on certain parts of the economy. No idea whether it's a net help or loss.
Except that people can actually just shift the time they do things in the day....

End Daylight Savings. But even beyond this, just get rid of time zones altogether.

I'd never really considered abolishing time zones, but that makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 30, 2014, 04:10:32 pm
Abolishing time zones causes all sorts of problems.

I remembering reading something once about the problems in china that stem from its one time zone policy
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on March 30, 2014, 04:19:46 pm
time zones causes all sorts of problems.
ftfy
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on March 30, 2014, 04:24:56 pm
Finally figured out 2048...I wasn't working boustrophedonically enough...also, I love the word "boustrophedonically" haha
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on March 30, 2014, 04:27:06 pm
Abolishing time zones is akin to abolishing relative directions in favor of cardinal directions. Both are useful. If I say that it's noon, that immediately gives you a picture of the time of day although it doesn't tell you what time it is in another part of the world. OTOH, using exclusively local times for flight information always drives me nuts because I always have to do all kinds of timezone conversions. People should use UTC more frequently, but abolishing local time entirely seems extreme.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on March 30, 2014, 04:29:43 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 30, 2014, 04:37:30 pm
Can we stop changing our clocks? Is this still a thing that has any value?

Given the increase in medical and traffic issues occurring twice a year, I'm pretty certain it has negative value.

Increase in medical and traffic issues?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/03/08/when_is_daylight_saving_time_it_starts_march_9_and_it_s_bad_for_your_health.html

Increased rate of heart attacks the week after DST starts (though a decreased risk at the fall switch).  Decreased productivity after both DST switches.  Major sleep issues for a large percentage of the population.

Large spike in traffic fatalities the Monday after both DST changes (though fewer accidents during DST).

Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on March 30, 2014, 04:39:33 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.

Clearly we should be abolishing dates too. My love life already has a significant head start there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 30, 2014, 04:42:26 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.

Clearly we should be abolishing dates too. My love life already has a significant head start there.

What do you use instead?  Figs?  Apricots?  Kiwis?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 30, 2014, 04:44:26 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.

Eh, no big deal, get rid of dates and just use utime()
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 30, 2014, 04:44:50 pm
Abolishing time zones is akin to abolishing relative directions in favor of cardinal directions. Both are useful. If I say that it's noon, that immediately gives you a picture of the time of day although it doesn't tell you what time it is in another part of the world. OTOH, using exclusively local times for flight information always drives me nuts because I always have to do all kinds of timezone conversions. People should use UTC more frequently, but abolishing local time entirely seems extreme.

We could continue using noon to mean "the time when the sun is highest".  It just wouldn't by synonymous with "12pm".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 30, 2014, 04:51:39 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.
I sometimes do the 28 h/6 days week, I don't think that's confusing at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 30, 2014, 04:53:56 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.

Clearly we should be abolishing dates too. My love life already has a significant head start there.

What do you use instead?  Figs?  Apricots?  Kiwis?

We only have a few significant figs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 30, 2014, 04:56:10 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.
I sometimes do the 28 h/6 days week, I don't think that's confusing at all.

Yes, but is it confusing to your mom?

http://xkcd.com/320/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on March 30, 2014, 05:04:34 pm
Can we stop changing our clocks? Is this still a thing that has any value?

Given the increase in medical and traffic issues occurring twice a year, I'm pretty certain it has negative value.

Increase in medical and traffic issues?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/03/08/when_is_daylight_saving_time_it_starts_march_9_and_it_s_bad_for_your_health.html

Increased rate of heart attacks the week after DST starts (though a decreased risk at the fall switch).  Decreased productivity after both DST switches.  Major sleep issues for a large percentage of the population.

Large spike in traffic fatalities the Monday after both DST changes (though fewer accidents during DST).

Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.

How do you know which one is DST and which one is not DST?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on March 30, 2014, 06:36:48 pm
Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.
This is illogical to me. Shouldn't it just be that people should get up an hour sooner? I mean, seriously, the whole thing is just a psychological trick (though I don't mean 'trick' to have any devious connotations here).
Can we stop changing our clocks? Is this still a thing that has any value?

Given the increase in medical and traffic issues occurring twice a year, I'm pretty certain it has negative value.

Increase in medical and traffic issues?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/03/08/when_is_daylight_saving_time_it_starts_march_9_and_it_s_bad_for_your_health.html

Increased rate of heart attacks the week after DST starts (though a decreased risk at the fall switch).  Decreased productivity after both DST switches.  Major sleep issues for a large percentage of the population.

Large spike in traffic fatalities the Monday after both DST changes (though fewer accidents during DST).

Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.

How do you know which one is DST and which one is not DST?
Most people don't and just say "Standard time" or "EST/CST/MST/PST" (per applicable) regardless of which it is, leading to great personal frustration for me.


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As it is now, with timezones, you could have some major event happen in, say China, early morning of March 31, and then people here in the US are responding to that afterwards, in the evening of March 30.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 30, 2014, 06:39:51 pm
Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.
This is illogical to me. Shouldn't it just be that people should get up an hour sooner? I mean, seriously, the whole thing is just a psychological trick (though I don't mean 'trick' to have any devious connotations here).

My mom has said she would like to always be on daylight savings time.  It stays light later.  It would be more like getting rid of it and making all clocks one hour ahead.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 30, 2014, 06:45:13 pm
Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.
This is illogical to me. Shouldn't it just be that people should get up an hour sooner? I mean, seriously, the whole thing is just a psychological trick (though I don't mean 'trick' to have any devious connotations here).
Can we stop changing our clocks? Is this still a thing that has any value?

Given the increase in medical and traffic issues occurring twice a year, I'm pretty certain it has negative value.

Increase in medical and traffic issues?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/03/08/when_is_daylight_saving_time_it_starts_march_9_and_it_s_bad_for_your_health.html

Increased rate of heart attacks the week after DST starts (though a decreased risk at the fall switch).  Decreased productivity after both DST switches.  Major sleep issues for a large percentage of the population.

Large spike in traffic fatalities the Monday after both DST changes (though fewer accidents during DST).

Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.

How do you know which one is DST and which one is not DST?
Most people don't and just say "Standard time" or "EST/CST/MST/PST" (per applicable) regardless of which it is, leading to great personal frustration for me.


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As it is now, with timezones, you could have some major event happen in, say China, early morning of March 31, and then people here in the US are responding to that afterwards, in the evening of March 30.

I remember being quite confused one summer when I was told that an appointment was at such and such a time, EST.  I got in touch with the person and asked if they had meant EDT, and sure enough they did.

edit:  Personally, if I'm in the US speaking to someone else in the US, I will usually just say Eastern Time or Pacific Time rather than specifying Standard or Daylight.  I mean, it is extremely rare in ordinary day-to-day life that one purposefully sets times in EDT during the winter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 30, 2014, 07:06:45 pm
Wow, what did I start? (random stuff is the answer I guess).

Yeah I realised after leaving for church that, whoops, the US celebrates mothers day at another time of year. And the US clocks do change, but do it at a slightly different time. But I draw everyone's attention back to this statement:
I feel like a zombie. Urghh....
So yeah I don't feel too dumb about it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on March 30, 2014, 07:12:11 pm
As it is now, with timezones, you could have some major event happen in, say China, early morning of March 31, and then people here in the US are responding to that afterwards, in the evening of March 30.
But without timezones, imagine some unfortunate part of the world where the date flips at what's currently (with time zones) 6am, so "early morning of March 31" could refer to two different mornings. Not much better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 30, 2014, 07:15:46 pm
Wow, what did I start? (random stuff is the answer I guess).

Yeah I realised after leaving for church that, whoops, the US celebrates mothers day at another time of year. And the US clocks do change, but do it at a slightly different time. But I draw everyone's attention back to this statement:
I feel like a zombie. Urghh....
So yeah I don't feel too dumb about it.

No worries.  I saw plenty of American friends on facebook freak out when they saw their British friends posting about Mothers Day, worried that they'd forgotten.  Same thing happens every year.  It would be easier if we just abbreviated them to Mum's Day and Mom's Day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 30, 2014, 07:20:18 pm
Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.
This is illogical to me. Shouldn't it just be that people should get up an hour sooner? I mean, seriously, the whole thing is just a psychological trick (though I don't mean 'trick' to have any devious connotations here).

Daylight and darkness affect traffic fatalities.  The evening commute starts after sunset here (Toledo, OH) for most of November and January; moving to year-round DST would mean sunset is never earlier than 1800 here.  And on the Eastern seaboard where the sun starts setting as early as 1600 in winter, the effect would be even more dramatic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 30, 2014, 07:28:54 pm
Most research says we should actually be going to year-round DST, at least in the US.
This is illogical to me. Shouldn't it just be that people should get up an hour sooner? I mean, seriously, the whole thing is just a psychological trick (though I don't mean 'trick' to have any devious connotations here).

Daylight and darkness affect traffic fatalities.  The evening commute starts after sunset here (Toledo, OH) for most of November and January; moving to year-round DST would mean sunset is never earlier than 1800 here.  And on the Eastern seaboard where the sun starts setting as early as 1600 in winter, the effect would be even more dramatic.

I think the point is that evening commutes aren't triggered by hands on a clock, but rather by the collective social convention of when the work day ends.  One could argue that it makes more sense for the work day to begin an hour earlier in the day, perhaps in order to optimize the synchronization of clocks with the motion of the sun.

In practice, I think it would be easier to a national government to declare permanent DST than it is for each business to individually decided to shift business by an hour.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on March 30, 2014, 07:50:26 pm
Abolishing time zones would be great except for one big problem, which is having the date switch in the middle of the day. It'd make it really awkward to say, for example, "Friday" and have the listener know what you mean. It's already confusing enough when you're awake at midnight and the date rolls over, and it'd be much much worse if it flipped during standard work hours.
I sometimes do the 28 h/6 days week, I don't think that's confusing at all.

Yes, but is it confusing to your mom?

http://xkcd.com/320/
No.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 30, 2014, 10:47:42 pm
So, I was playing derivative clicker that someone posted.  I realized you can sell things by saying you want to buy -1 of them at once.  I was wondering what would happen if you sold something that you had none of...  You can sell it, get -1 of it, and get money for selling it.  I decided to sell a nonexistant Georg Riemann and got a lot of money for it.  I started buying other stuff, then realized that because I had -1 Georg Riemann, I started getting negative Kurt Godels (I don't feel like getting the special o...), which ended with negative mathematicians, which ended with my tick length being NaN.  The game interpreted that as 0 or something, and was constantly updating, giving me a lot of money and proofs.  But I couldn't buy anything...  I had to restart...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on March 30, 2014, 11:17:23 pm
So, I was playing derivative clicker that someone posted.  I realized you can sell things by saying you want to buy -1 of them at once.  I was wondering what would happen if you sold something that you had none of...  You can sell it, get -1 of it, and get money for selling it.  I decided to sell a nonexistant Georg Riemann and got a lot of money for it.  I started buying other stuff, then realized that because I had -1 Georg Riemann, I started getting negative Kurt Godels (I don't feel like getting the special o...), which ended with negative mathematicians, which ended with my tick length being NaN.  The game interpreted that as 0 or something, and was constantly updating, giving me a lot of money and proofs.  But I couldn't buy anything...  I had to restart...

Haha. I saw this and was like, well why don't I just sell something that doesn't effect the others, so I sold 2B High Schoolers. This made my multiplier for 1st level buildings go to -4M, and all the level 1 things cost -money which I can't spend because I now have 18.86 Oc$. Hahaha. This is hilarious and totally gameable I think.

Edit: Yup. Once you're tired of clicking (this happens pretty early on for me), you can essentially take out an interest free loan by heavily negatively investing in Postdocs, grads, undergrads, and high schoolers. If you don't click, these never make you negative money or anything, so you can just buy derivatives and mathematicians to jump start your economy and pay back the loan when it costs you basically nothing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 31, 2014, 03:28:04 am
Wow, what did I start? (random stuff is the answer I guess).

Yeah I realised after leaving for church that, whoops, the US celebrates mothers day at another time of year. And the US clocks do change, but do it at a slightly different time. But I draw everyone's attention back to this statement:
I feel like a zombie. Urghh....
So yeah I don't feel too dumb about it.

No worries.  I saw plenty of American friends on facebook freak out when they saw their British friends posting about Mothers Day, worried that they'd forgotten.  Same thing happens every year.  It would be easier if we just abbreviated them to Mum's Day and Mom's Day.

Well technically, they're already Mother's Day (US) and Mothering Sunday (UK), but very few people call it Mothering Sunday any more.

So, I was playing derivative clicker that someone posted.  I realized you can sell things by saying you want to buy -1 of them at once.  I was wondering what would happen if you sold something that you had none of...  You can sell it, get -1 of it, and get money for selling it.  I decided to sell a nonexistant Georg Riemann and got a lot of money for it.  I started buying other stuff, then realized that because I had -1 Georg Riemann, I started getting negative Kurt Godels (I don't feel like getting the special o...), which ended with negative mathematicians, which ended with my tick length being NaN.  The game interpreted that as 0 or something, and was constantly updating, giving me a lot of money and proofs.  But I couldn't buy anything...  I had to restart...

Yeah, the game designer is aware of the bug and intends to fix it. As a point, you can still buy things, but clicks don't often register because uh some reason. But if you use mousekeys (ctrl+shift+num lock) you can buy things still, and get an alarming amount of everything at a ridiculous pace.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 31, 2014, 08:19:59 am
I've been watching the new Cosmos series each week and enjoying it, but last night's episode seemed rather off the mark in its discussion of black holes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on March 31, 2014, 11:23:51 am
I've been watching the new Cosmos series each week and enjoying it, but last night's episode seemed rather off the mark in its discussion of black holes.

Is this good?
Just about to start over here in the uk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 31, 2014, 11:32:18 am
I've been watching the new Cosmos series each week and enjoying it, but last night's episode seemed rather off the mark in its discussion of black holes.

Is this good?
Just about to start over here in the uk

The first two episodes were quite good.  I haven't had the chance to watch Eps 3 and 4.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on March 31, 2014, 11:36:58 am
In other news, there is a My Little Pony CCG.  I'm uncertain how to feel about this.  I guess I'll be able to introduce my girls to CCGs early?

What's interesting to me, though, is the chain of ownership.  Magic is of course owned by WOTC, which in turn is owned by Hasbro.  Hasbro also owns My Little Pony.  Yet the CCG is produced by someone else entirely.  Strange.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 31, 2014, 01:16:06 pm
I've been watching the new Cosmos series each week and enjoying it, but last night's episode seemed rather off the mark in its discussion of black holes.

Is this good?
Just about to start over here in the uk

The first two episodes were quite good.  I haven't had the chance to watch Eps 3 and 4.

Episode 3 is my favorite thus far.  My biggest complaint about Episode 4 is that they made it seem like crossing the event horizon of a black hole is some dramatic and sudden experience.  I don't know of a single physicist who believes that.  Also, there was some rather wild speculation of what is across the black hole.  There is already so much interesting stuff to say about black holes with better established physics.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on March 31, 2014, 01:34:26 pm
So, I was playing derivative clicker that someone posted.  I realized you can sell things by saying you want to buy -1 of them at once.  I was wondering what would happen if you sold something that you had none of...  You can sell it, get -1 of it, and get money for selling it.  I decided to sell a nonexistant Georg Riemann and got a lot of money for it.  I started buying other stuff, then realized that because I had -1 Georg Riemann, I started getting negative Kurt Godels (I don't feel like getting the special o...), which ended with negative mathematicians, which ended with my tick length being NaN.  The game interpreted that as 0 or something, and was constantly updating, giving me a lot of money and proofs.  But I couldn't buy anything...  I had to restart...

Haha. I saw this and was like, well why don't I just sell something that doesn't effect the others, so I sold 2B High Schoolers. This made my multiplier for 1st level buildings go to -4M, and all the level 1 things cost -money which I can't spend because I now have 18.86 Oc$. Hahaha. This is hilarious and totally gameable I think.

Edit: Yup. Once you're tired of clicking (this happens pretty early on for me), you can essentially take out an interest free loan by heavily negatively investing in Postdocs, grads, undergrads, and high schoolers. If you don't click, these never make you negative money or anything, so you can just buy derivatives and mathematicians to jump start your economy and pay back the loan when it costs you basically nothing.

...And he fixed it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 31, 2014, 04:51:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YMD6xELI_k
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 31, 2014, 04:52:47 pm
Beat me by 1 minute!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 31, 2014, 05:05:20 pm
Found a cool solution to the bad sliders from Betrayal at House on the Hill:

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/4d23f814fd610e03a3b46ffa2b5bab09/tumblr_n2yqsqyuQg1rygye9o1_500.jpg)

(Edit: smaller image)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on March 31, 2014, 06:14:30 pm
http://www.gdriv.es/derivclicker/game.html

So after I saw this, I opened it up and started as a lowly mathematician clicking and clicking and clicking.  Eventually it was all about the ticks, and just leaving it open to accumulate wealth.  Then I noticed something strange:
(http://i.imgur.com/iofI1jM.png)

Yes, my Graduate Students became free.  I started buying thousands of them.  The program would only let me purchase 2000 as the highest rounded up unit (to the nearest thousand), so I couldn't start buying millions at a time, but I still managed to purchase quite a few.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on March 31, 2014, 06:24:00 pm
In other news, there is a My Little Pony CCG.  I'm uncertain how to feel about this.  I guess I'll be able to introduce my girls to CCGs early?

What's interesting to me, though, is the chain of ownership.  Magic is of course owned by WOTC, which in turn is owned by Hasbro.  Hasbro also owns My Little Pony.  Yet the CCG is produced by someone else entirely.  Strange.
I think Hasbro is having trouble understanding how to market MLP outside of pink pony toys, so they've decided to avoid doing any of it in-house. For further amusement, the show's Japanese distributor is Bushiroad, who also happen to be the publisher of a large number of CCGs, although I don't think there's any plan for them to release the MLP CCG in Japanese.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 31, 2014, 06:27:09 pm
In other news, there is a My Little Pony CCG.  I'm uncertain how to feel about this.  I guess I'll be able to introduce my girls to CCGs early?

What's interesting to me, though, is the chain of ownership.  Magic is of course owned by WOTC, which in turn is owned by Hasbro.  Hasbro also owns My Little Pony.  Yet the CCG is produced by someone else entirely.  Strange.
I played a demo during gencon last year. It was decent, the mechanic of needed to work with your opponent to achieve goals seemed a bit weird to me so I wouldn't play it but if your girls like the show I imagine they'd be more willing to play it and have fun with it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on March 31, 2014, 06:53:45 pm
Found a cool solution to the bad sliders from Betrayal at House on the Hill:

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/4d23f814fd610e03a3b46ffa2b5bab09/tumblr_n2yqsqyuQg1rygye9o1_500.jpg)

(Edit: smaller image)

It's already hard enough to tell what the sliders are pointing at, how does this make it easier to see what number is being point...ed... or even circled... Hm. Quite. Carry on.

In other news I played Civ (the board game) for the first time today. Was really fun, I thought it was a two horse race between the other two guys until I suddenly noticed that, no, I can get to 15 coins (economic victory), and before either of them wins too. It was really tight. US player was very close to a military victory, Russia was literally in place to research for a tech victory, but I snuck the economic victory in there as Rome - and didn't do badly on culture either (was in the III section, with about a dozen culture tokens spare).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: -Stef- on March 31, 2014, 07:17:58 pm
kla-da-boem :)

(http://i.imgur.com/C4VsiIp.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on March 31, 2014, 07:19:56 pm
kla-da-boem :)

(http://i.imgur.com/C4VsiIp.jpg)

Just when I though I'd given up playing this game...  >:(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 31, 2014, 07:22:38 pm
Stef, you monster.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 31, 2014, 07:32:25 pm
In other news, there is a My Little Pony CCG.  I'm uncertain how to feel about this.  I guess I'll be able to introduce my girls to CCGs early?

What's interesting to me, though, is the chain of ownership.  Magic is of course owned by WOTC, which in turn is owned by Hasbro.  Hasbro also owns My Little Pony.  Yet the CCG is produced by someone else entirely.  Strange.
I played a demo during gencon last year. It was decent, the mechanic of needed to work with your opponent to achieve goals seemed a bit weird to me so I wouldn't play it but if your girls like the show I imagine they'd be more willing to play it and have fun with it.

Yeah, it's really difficult to make friendship based mechanics work in a CCG, because even choosing a friend immediately introduces politics of who you ally with. Dominion gets around it by helping everyone, but if you add too many of those effects, then the game gets pretty ridiculous pretty quickly, and you have to scale your game to account for that.

Of course, if you don't take the game seriously, then it's okay, but play the game enough and you'll want to start winning...

I have good memories of the Neopets TCG, I remember thinking it was pretty good. Granted, I was in middle school at the time, but I also knew how to play MtG, so I'd like to think I had some taste in card games. Too bad they stopped making it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on March 31, 2014, 07:40:44 pm
In other news, there is a My Little Pony CCG.  I'm uncertain how to feel about this.  I guess I'll be able to introduce my girls to CCGs early?

What's interesting to me, though, is the chain of ownership.  Magic is of course owned by WOTC, which in turn is owned by Hasbro.  Hasbro also owns My Little Pony.  Yet the CCG is produced by someone else entirely.  Strange.
I played a demo during gencon last year. It was decent, the mechanic of needed to work with your opponent to achieve goals seemed a bit weird to me so I wouldn't play it but if your girls like the show I imagine they'd be more willing to play it and have fun with it.

Yeah, it's really difficult to make friendship based mechanics work in a CCG, because even choosing a friend immediately introduces politics of who you ally with.
This was 1v1, so your friend is also your only opponent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 31, 2014, 08:56:24 pm
In other news, there is a My Little Pony CCG.  I'm uncertain how to feel about this.  I guess I'll be able to introduce my girls to CCGs early?

What's interesting to me, though, is the chain of ownership.  Magic is of course owned by WOTC, which in turn is owned by Hasbro.  Hasbro also owns My Little Pony.  Yet the CCG is produced by someone else entirely.  Strange.
I played a demo during gencon last year. It was decent, the mechanic of needed to work with your opponent to achieve goals seemed a bit weird to me so I wouldn't play it but if your girls like the show I imagine they'd be more willing to play it and have fun with it.

Yeah, it's really difficult to make friendship based mechanics work in a CCG, because even choosing a friend immediately introduces politics of who you ally with.
This was 1v1, so your friend is also your only opponent.

Uhhhhhhh.

Okay.

In other news, I got bored with DerivClicker, so I went to the site hosting it, gave myself $10^42 by calling the relevant functions in Javascript, bought tons of upgrades, and now I'm done.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on March 31, 2014, 09:17:52 pm
If you could get some more cookies, that'd be great.

Eleven new buildings!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/a6f80e1f99e8fe96b92420b9b38658f6/tumblr_n3b4etd5Gv1s04h2ho1_500.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on March 31, 2014, 11:06:35 pm
If I just post this...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on March 31, 2014, 11:06:42 pm
...and this...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on March 31, 2014, 11:07:08 pm
...I get to be the first on Page 100! w00t!!!!

99 pages of pure randomness.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on March 31, 2014, 11:11:18 pm
...I get to be the first on Page 100! w00t!!!!

99 pages of pure randomness.

Only if you display 25 posts per page. You haven't even finished page 50 for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on March 31, 2014, 11:51:44 pm
So you're saying mail-mi should make 2500 more posts in a row?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 01, 2014, 12:54:16 am
Just watched the last episode of HIMYM.  What a ride.

Anybody else following it?  Have to say, I teared up at the most unexpected scene -- where Barney meets his daughter for the first time.  Did not expect that at all.  NPH is amazing.

And that ending... part of it was already kind of known but the very, very end was pretty unexpected.  Not sure how I feel about it either.  I mean, it makes sense, and I suppose it was a long time coming in a sense, but it still felt weirdly rushed.  I don't know.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 12:59:30 am
As someone who has never seen an episode prior to tonight, the part you described (baby daughter) was the only particularly emotional/good part. It was cheesy, but it worked. (but my standards were low, I hate that sort of show. Showed up because a friend was hosting and I enjoy watching only finales. Friend who was a fan didn't like it, btw, but also didn't really care.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 01, 2014, 01:17:07 am
What do you mean by "that sort of show"?

I can see why some people would not like the finale, or even the show in its later seasons.  I'm loyal to a fault when it comes to TV shows though, and I don't really consider HIMYM to be among the worst of those shows that I stuck with despite declining quality (the worst is probably Heroes).  I think HIMYM has been remarkably consistent in quality, even though it's changed and evolved a great deal over its run.

The finale wasn't entirely satisfactory on every level, but maybe it wasn't supposed to be.  I'm not sure if it could have been possible for it to be completely satisfactory.  What would have to have happened?  (I know you can't answer that, having only watched the finale.)  Life is messy and full of ups and downs, tragedies and triumphs.  I think they captured that really well in the span of 44 minutes.

I'll say this though -- as a long time fan of the show, I definitely think there were more good parts than that one scene.  Knowing the characters and the life events that they've gone through made many of the events in the series finale much more significant than they might seem at the surface level.  There were also a fair number of call backs that wouldn't make sense to a first time viewer, and at least one meta joke -- the fact that the vast majority of the story did not include the mother has been a criticism for ages, so it was amusing to see it lampshaded with a mildly reasonable explanation.

I don't know how I feel about the very end, but I loved it overall.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 01:24:58 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 01:26:29 am
I completely caught the "the mom wasn't a big part of it" (and the "it was a short story" stuff) and honestly I groaned.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on April 01, 2014, 01:26:58 am
I wasn't a fan of the finale, but I think the show had a really good run overall. I did enjoy this final season overall.

So much effort was put this season and last into the Barney-Robin relationship, and I felt very sad that it ended just like that. It was so sudden. Once it happened, the ending was pretty inevitable, but I was dissatisfied that it didn't work out in the end.

Robin-Ted wasn't inevitable, and although they spent the first several seasons building up to that finale...that's not what I expected or saw as the most fitting ending (and in feel-good comedies, the most fitting ending is a good thing to me, even if it's nothing special). The show wasn't about Robin-Ted anymore, especially not in the last few seasons, and it was a very sudden pivot to the ending. It feels like they wrote the ending years ago and then decided to stick with it anyways.

The mother was so perfect for him and it worked and while her dying wasn't necessarily a bad thing, it kinda seems like a stop rather than the destination, which was disappointing. It was made pretty clear over and over that Robin was not "The one" (something that was HUGELY important to Ted) so to find out that "oh wait, maybe she is" was pretty disorienting. 


Still, the show had a good run. I don't think it fell off as much as people claim (it dragged on a bit but it was never anywhere near unwatchable, and still always had its moments), and I felt a huge connection and investment in all of the characters. I'll be sad to see it go.

 
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Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 01:27:25 am
Basically I don't want to trash it because it's just not my thing. If it's well-done in a genre I don't like that's good because it means others will enjoy it and I am free to watch stuff other people hate.  :)
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 01, 2014, 01:51:35 am
@Voltaire, if it's not your thing, that's perfectly fair.  My question was just a question, and the rest of that post was just in response to your friend not liking the ending (which you put in spoilers for some reason :P ).  I can see why some people wouldn't like it, but I think it worked.

@TA, I mostly agree with you.  That's kind of why I'm ambivalent about the ending right now.  I'll say this though -- HIMYM isn't a typical feel-good comedy IMO, and I actually think the Barney-Robin split was a fine direction for the story to go, especially with the rest of Barney's arc (slipping back into his old ways before changing for good for his daughter).  If they had stayed together, that would have been cool too, but I have no real issue with that part of the story.

The turn back to Robin-Ted was sudden, but I can see how the writers tried to steer it back that way.  They brought it up again and again over the course of this season, coming from both Ted and Robin.  It wasn't quite enough to make the ending feel less out of the blue [french horn], but they tried.  I think I would have liked it more if Robin hadn't so completely dropped out of their lives for so many years, or if they had showed more of their reconciliation and maybe a bit of Robin and Ted re-bonding after Tracy's death.

As far as Robin being The One... I'm not sure if they actually made that the message.  Tracy was The One, but the final message suggests that life goes on and maybe there isn't just One True Love.  That's a pretty significant thing considering Ted's character at the start of the series.  And did they say that Robin was The One for Ted at the end?  IIRC, the kids just suggest that Ted "has the hots for" Robin, or something similarly anachronistic and not-quite-soul-mate-status.  Both of them have matured, both are probably feeling a bit lonely, both loved each other in the past and still care deeply for each other as friends.  Maybe they're not perfect, but yadda yadda life isn't perfect.

And I just thought of this now -- in a way, that ending is kind of call back to their pact (when Ted asks Robin to be his back up wife).


Maybe I'm reading too much into it all.  I'll need to watch it again, I think. :P
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Post by: Twistedarcher on April 01, 2014, 02:02:57 am
I think you are correct about the overall message of the show, and the finale showing that there's more beyond "The One". It's possible to find happiness without everything being perfect, whether that's Ted and Robin, or Barney and his daughter. I guess what caught me off guard was the pacing. It was just so sudden, even when it was inevitable after the divorce (because they hinted very heavily that Tracy was going to die at some point pre-2030).

They definitely kept the Robin-Ted option open, I guess, what with the locket and all, but I didn't see it coming. That storyline just got played out for me over the years.

I guess talking about it, I'm starting to like the ending a little more. I forgot the part about Robin being Ted's back-up wife, but it really does tie in nicely.
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Post by: Lekkit on April 01, 2014, 02:26:10 am
A card game friend of mine has recently picked up MLP. He wanted something new. And apparently the mechanics has its upsides. However, the player base in Sweden is apparently not that great. My friend mopped the floor with all opposition during his first tournament with basically a slightly altered structure deck. Many opponents didn't seem to know what they were doing at all. Also, my friend was the only one who didn't have MLP merchandise other than the cards with him. I've also heard some less than flattering things about some of the card designs. And any game that has Ultra Rares that are very powerful are bad news to me. I'm most likely not picking the game up anytime soon. It sounds like a rebranded YGO to me.

I haven't yet watched the finale of HIMYM, but I'll most likely get to watch it later today. So I'm thankful for the spoiler tags. :)
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Post by: Axxle on April 01, 2014, 05:31:40 am
...I get to be the first on Page 100! w00t!!!!

99 pages of pure randomness.

Only if you display 25 posts per page. You haven't even finished page 50 for me.
middle of 248 for me
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Post by: Axxle on April 01, 2014, 05:32:55 am
...I get to be the first on Page 100! w00t!!!!

99 pages of pure randomness.
i don't think that means what you think it means
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Post by: shraeye on April 01, 2014, 06:42:07 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
I agree with the correlation, and opinion.
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Post by: SirPeebles on April 01, 2014, 07:46:04 am
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 01, 2014, 09:45:49 am
Just watched the last episode of HIMYM.  What a ride.

Anybody else following it?  Have to say, I teared up at the most unexpected scene -- where Barney meets his daughter for the first time.  Did not expect that at all.  NPH is amazing.

And that ending... part of it was already kind of known but the very, very end was pretty unexpected.  Not sure how I feel about it either.  I mean, it makes sense, and I suppose it was a long time coming in a sense, but it still felt weirdly rushed.  I don't know.

I watched it.  I thought it was very good.  I didn't really want the mother to have died, but I thought it was treated alright.  It would have been pretty depressing if the show ended on her deathbed, or when she had just died.  But six years is a reasonable time to come to terms with everything and start moving on, I think.

I think it felt rushed because there were a bunch of timelines in succession, so you didn't get to feel how long the intervals really were.  Ted met the mother in 2013 (I believe), and she died six years before the story telling, which I think was in 2030.  So they were together for 11-12 years.  We only saw small flashes of it in the narrative, but our imagination can fill in the gaps.  From all accounts, they were very happy during that time.  By the time he's telling the story, six years have passed, which is also a long time.  Think about how much you change in six years.  For us it was only a minute between finding out the mother had died to Ted going after Robin, but in the story, it was a long, long time.  So I understand it feeling rushed, but I think as long as you immerse yourself in the narrative, it isn't really.

I actually felt the monologue with Barney and his daughter was a little forced.  I think it would have been better if all the emotion was just on his face and he broke down crying or something.  Or maybe said a couple of simple (but weighty) words.  Anyway, overall I liked the finale, and I think it was a lot more realistic than an "everyone lives happily ever after" ending.
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 01, 2014, 09:53:44 am
I completely caught the "the mom wasn't a big part of it" (and the "it was a short story" stuff) and honestly I groaned.

I think you'd have to have watched the whole series and buy into the way the show tells things to have liked what they did there.  It's hard to explain, but they way they did that was consistent with how they've done the entire show, and Ted telling an entire drawn-out story to justify him moving on from their mother without actually saying that's what he's doing, but still making it very obvious, is exactly what the character would do.  Plus, there was a big thing a few episodes ago about Ted not becoming one of the guys that lives in his stories.  The mother made a big point that he can't always be looking at the past and has to look to the future.  But the entire nine years of show time prior had been Ted meticulously focus on the past.  So to make to make all of this about him moving on and moving forward is a reconciliation of that.

Well, anyway, I'm not trying to convince you that the show is good.  My main point is that the cheesiness of the show is one of its defining qualities, and once you buy into it it's pretty easy to enjoy what they do.  But it doesn't work so well in isolated incidents.
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Post by: theory on April 01, 2014, 09:55:33 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
Seinfeld also has a laugh track.  I think it depends a lot on how it's used.
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Post by: theory on April 01, 2014, 09:58:02 am
I would have preferred it if in the finale Ted wrapped up the story, "and that's how I met your mother."  And then fast forward another year, and then Ted is telling the same story again, and then the kids remind him that he tells this story every year, and that it's obvious that he's really telling it because Aunt Robin etc. etc.  That would help alleviate the otherwise jarring transition from happy and in love -> sad because she died -> welp, back to Robin I guess! and make the show a little more romantic -- which is what it's always been
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Post by: SirPeebles on April 01, 2014, 10:04:37 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
Seinfeld also has a laugh track.  I think it depends a lot on how it's used.

Seinfeld is incredible, but I've never thought that the laugh track improved it. Or do you just mean that they used it less detrimentally?
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Post by: Ozle on April 01, 2014, 10:05:02 am
Benecio del Toro is Keyser Soze
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 01, 2014, 10:08:46 am
I wasn't a fan of the finale, but I think the show had a really good run overall. I did enjoy this final season overall.

So much effort was put this season and last into the Barney-Robin relationship, and I felt very sad that it ended just like that. It was so sudden. Once it happened, the ending was pretty inevitable, but I was dissatisfied that it didn't work out in the end.

Robin-Ted wasn't inevitable, and although they spent the first several seasons building up to that finale...that's not what I expected or saw as the most fitting ending (and in feel-good comedies, the most fitting ending is a good thing to me, even if it's nothing special). The show wasn't about Robin-Ted anymore, especially not in the last few seasons, and it was a very sudden pivot to the ending. It feels like they wrote the ending years ago and then decided to stick with it anyways.

The mother was so perfect for him and it worked and while her dying wasn't necessarily a bad thing, it kinda seems like a stop rather than the destination, which was disappointing. It was made pretty clear over and over that Robin was not "The one" (something that was HUGELY important to Ted) so to find out that "oh wait, maybe she is" was pretty disorienting. 


Still, the show had a good run. I don't think it fell off as much as people claim (it dragged on a bit but it was never anywhere near unwatchable, and still always had its moments), and I felt a huge connection and investment in all of the characters. I'll be sad to see it go.

So I really don't feel that the point of the finale was that "Robin isn't the one... oh wait, maybe she is".  I think the point was that the mother was the love of his life, and he found it, and he had it, and he lost it.  It all feels sudden because it happened in a short period of time, but the time that Ted and the mother were together is longer than the entire run of the series (the 2004-2013 narrative).  And by the time Ted is telling the story another six years have passed. In that context I don't think it's jarring at all. 

I'm pretty sure Ted would always choose the mother over Robin, because they were a better match.  But with the mother gone, him moving on makes sense.  And they led up to Robin feeling that she made a big mistake by not choosing Ted.  In the context of the mother being gone, and it being time to move on, this seems natural to me.  Had it been something different, like Ted and the mother getting divorced after five or six years, that would have felt wrong.

And, Barney and Robin not working out made the most sense I think.  They were still together for three years.. they only had about 10-20 minutes of marriage for us, but three years in story time, plus the time they were together before the ceremony.  So that's a significant relationship, even if it didn't work out.  And it made sense given their characters.. they always made a point of Robin putting her career before everything else, and Barney isn't the kind of person to do whatever it takes to make things work.  That sort of behavior requires a certain amount of faith and hope and belief that things will turn out alright that is out of character for him.  The point is that Ted is that guy, not Barney.  Barney tried as much as he possibly could to change, but people don't just change like that.
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Post by: Kuildeous on April 01, 2014, 10:09:54 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
Seinfeld also has a laugh track.  I think it depends a lot on how it's used.

From what I've seen, laugh tracks are always terrible. It just depends on whether or not the show can grab my attention in spite of the laugh track.

I enjoyed Seinfeld and That 70s Show (at first anyway), even though they had laugh tracks. But in general I really hate for a TV show to tell me when something is funny. If it's funny, I'll laugh on my own terms, thanks. And if there is raucous laughter in response to a joke I didn't find all that funny (which I presume falls under what you mean by how it's used, Theory), then it really grates on my nerves. Married…with Children is a really bad example of the laugh track. On a bright note, Married's laugh track at least was spoofed nicely on Simpsons and Futurama.

When I find a comedy without a laugh track, I take note. This allows for more subtle humor to be inserted, because how do you handle a laugh track for a subtle joke? I really enjoy Malcolm in the Middle and Arrested Development. These shows had some great comedic moments that weren't marred by a laugh track.

I didn't realize how much I hated laugh tracks until I was watching a Friends episode in a plane. Those cheap-ass headphones just pipe the sound down a tunnel, and that distortion made the laugh track exceptionally tinny. It drove me nuts.
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Post by: Kirian on April 01, 2014, 10:12:11 am
Benecio del Toro is Keyser Soze

Also: Snape kills the mother.
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Post by: SirPeebles on April 01, 2014, 10:17:00 am
All of these spoiler tags have made me wonder how the star wars prequels would have been received if, somehow, it was a surprise in the end that Anakin is Darth Vader.
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Post by: pingpongsam on April 01, 2014, 10:20:08 am
The Cosby show, live laugh track, strange isolated guffaws at inopportune times. The good ole days.
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Post by: Kirian on April 01, 2014, 10:24:13 am
The Cosby show, live laugh track, strange isolated guffaws at inopportune times. The good ole days.

A live audience is so much different from a laugh track though.  Not necessarily better though.
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 01, 2014, 10:26:39 am
I actually don't even notice the laugh track.  Unless someone points it out.  If we weren't talking about it and I never heard anyone bring it up, I wouldn't be able to tell you if How I Met Your Mother had a laugh track or not, even though I've watched the entire series.  The same with other shows.
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Post by: SirPeebles on April 01, 2014, 10:31:48 am
The first time I really noticed Seinfeld's laugh track was when I downloaded George's answering machine message.  This was back when tracking down something like that on the Internet was tricky.  Sadly, the laugh track is going through the whole recording, completely ruining it outside the context of the show.
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Post by: theory on April 01, 2014, 10:37:28 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
Seinfeld also has a laugh track.  I think it depends a lot on how it's used.

From what I've seen, laugh tracks are always terrible. It just depends on whether or not the show can grab my attention in spite of the laugh track.

I enjoyed Seinfeld and That 70s Show (at first anyway), even though they had laugh tracks. But in general I really hate for a TV show to tell me when something is funny. If it's funny, I'll laugh on my own terms, thanks. And if there is raucous laughter in response to a joke I didn't find all that funny (which I presume falls under what you mean by how it's used, Theory), then it really grates on my nerves. Married…with Children is a really bad example of the laugh track. On a bright note, Married's laugh track at least was spoofed nicely on Simpsons and Futurama.

When I find a comedy without a laugh track, I take note. This allows for more subtle humor to be inserted, because how do you handle a laugh track for a subtle joke? I really enjoy Malcolm in the Middle and Arrested Development. These shows had some great comedic moments that weren't marred by a laugh track.

I didn't realize how much I hated laugh tracks until I was watching a Friends episode in a plane. Those cheap-ass headphones just pipe the sound down a tunnel, and that distortion made the laugh track exceptionally tinny. It drove me nuts.

I think that not every comedy is meant to be like Arrested Development.  AD would be horrible with a laugh track; Seinfeld is perfect with one.  Laugh tracks provide pacing and slow the show down a little bit, which is great for a show built around jokes instead of just wry humor.  HIMYM is closer to Seinfeld than AD, in my view; the laugh track isn't crucial to the show but it's not a show that abuses the laugh track like Big Bang Theory.  Good laugh track shows are built around the track; they provide a small pause to let the audience rest a little bit before moving on.
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Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 10:42:20 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
Seinfeld also has a laugh track.  I think it depends a lot on how it's used.

And that's actually the perfect example, because it's the exception that proves the rule - I love Seinfeld.
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Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 10:47:40 am
But really, what Kuildeous said.

Also, it's not all laugh track - I find shows that use laugh tracks tend to have far less clever humor (along the lines of, we need a joke with a punchline so they know when to laugh).

And getting to stuff that has nothing to do with a laugh track, shows that employ them tend to correlate with shows that can't find a good balance between being completely episodic and having arcs. This really bugs me. It makes character development murky. If the characters are never supposed to change, that's fine (if it's the "given circumstances" of the show), but then don't try to pull some tearjerker of an episode on me because I won't buy it. That sort of thing. There's plenty of other examples, but I don't feel like writing the paper it would take to explain this because I'm sure it already exists elsewhere on the internet.

Which, from what I've heard, are things HIMYM somewhat avoided, because I have friends with what I consider good taste and they like the show, even if I don't.
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Post by: Kirian on April 01, 2014, 10:58:04 am
Shortest answer? It has a laugh track. Those tend to correlate well with other things I hate about shows (yes, I looked beyond that obviously but it is the shortest way to communicate what I am saying).
Seinfeld also has a laugh track.  I think it depends a lot on how it's used.

From what I've seen, laugh tracks are always terrible. It just depends on whether or not the show can grab my attention in spite of the laugh track.

I enjoyed Seinfeld and That 70s Show (at first anyway), even though they had laugh tracks. But in general I really hate for a TV show to tell me when something is funny. If it's funny, I'll laugh on my own terms, thanks. And if there is raucous laughter in response to a joke I didn't find all that funny (which I presume falls under what you mean by how it's used, Theory), then it really grates on my nerves. Married…with Children is a really bad example of the laugh track. On a bright note, Married's laugh track at least was spoofed nicely on Simpsons and Futurama.

When I find a comedy without a laugh track, I take note. This allows for more subtle humor to be inserted, because how do you handle a laugh track for a subtle joke? I really enjoy Malcolm in the Middle and Arrested Development. These shows had some great comedic moments that weren't marred by a laugh track.

I didn't realize how much I hated laugh tracks until I was watching a Friends episode in a plane. Those cheap-ass headphones just pipe the sound down a tunnel, and that distortion made the laugh track exceptionally tinny. It drove me nuts.

I think that not every comedy is meant to be like Arrested Development.  AD would be horrible with a laugh track; Seinfeld is perfect with one.  Laugh tracks provide pacing and slow the show down a little bit, which is great for a show built around jokes instead of just wry humor.  HIMYM is closer to Seinfeld than AD, in my view; the laugh track isn't crucial to the show but it's not a show that abuses the laugh track like Big Bang Theory.  Good laugh track shows are built around the track; they provide a small pause to let the audience rest a little bit before moving on.

Ah yes, Big Bang Theory: a nerd blackface minstrel show with a side of "Asperger Syndrome is hilarious."

Another comedy with no laugh track: SportsNight.  And then Comedy Central picked it up for reruns and added one.  Which was just horrible.
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Post by: Ozle on April 01, 2014, 11:18:32 am
Laugh tracks always seem condescending to me

I know what I find funny thanks.

Also, it kind of implies that the jokes don't hold up well enough on their own. I can't think of a British comedy that uses them, is it just an American thing?
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Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 11:33:10 am
Ohmygod SportsNight didn't originally have a laugh track? I need to give it another shot. I apparently unintentionally watched that version and didn't know it wasn't the original.
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Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 01, 2014, 11:35:37 am
Laugh tracks always seem condescending to me

I know what I find funny thanks.

Also, it kind of implies that the jokes don't hold up well enough on their own. I can't think of a British comedy that uses them, is it just an American thing?

"Keeping Up Appearances" I believe...I was just watching it on Netflix
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Post by: Twistedarcher on April 01, 2014, 11:39:41 am
I actually don't even notice the laugh track.  Unless someone points it out.  If we weren't talking about it and I never heard anyone bring it up, I wouldn't be able to tell you if How I Met Your Mother had a laugh track or not, even though I've watched the entire series.  The same with other shows.

Ditto this, I don't notice the laughtrack when I watch HIMYM.

I notice it when I watch Big Bang Theory, although it's less annoying than how Penny reacts to jokes.
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Post by: Kirian on April 01, 2014, 11:51:57 am
Ohmygod SportsNight didn't originally have a laugh track? I need to give it another shot. I apparently unintentionally watched that version and didn't know it wasn't the original.

I don't know which of the versions if any are on Netflix and Amazon streaming.  I hope it's the non laugh track version.
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 01, 2014, 11:54:46 am
I've never liked Seinfeld, but I can't quantify why.  Something about it just never clicked with me.  Maybe it would if I gave it another shot.  I didn't like Arrested Development at first either, but I love it now... granted, that's because I was just catching random AD episodes on TV at first, and (as a friend let me know later), AD is the kind of show that you really need to watch from the beginning.

I really don't mind laugh tracks if they match up decently well with what I actually find funny, in which case I don't even notice it.  I dislike it when the laugh track kicks in at points that feel completely off to pacing -- that's when the canned laughter sticks out like a sore thumb throat.  HIMYM never felt off to me though.

@Witherweaver, yes I fully understand that HIMYM's ending is not so rushed within the actual story, because many years pass between each scene that we do not get to see.  The criticism is not that Ted returning to Robin is unrealistic in terms of the in-universe timeline.  The criticism is that some of those events feel rushed in terms of how the story is told to us.

Robin and Barney have been a big focal point for many seasons, even the primary focal point for much of this last season.  We got some 20 episodes about the 2 days leading up to their wedding... and then it all ends in just a few minutes.  Now, this worked fine for me, but I can see why people would find it rushed.

But for Ted coming back to Robin, that was unexpected to me because of how big a deal was made about her not being the one for Ted, and about how Ted had to let her go and move on.  Yeah it's been 6 years for Ted, but it hasn't been that long for us, as far as the story is concerned.  This is why I said I would have liked it if we had seen some intervening moments of Ted and Robin reconnecting... they could have tied it in with the kids by making it a simple wordless montage while Ted narrated about Tracy's death, how it impacted him, how some people will always be a part of your life... something to ease up back. 

I also think it would have been nice if they had underscored that Ted doesn't necessarily love Robin the same way he loved Tracy, and that his rekindling of their relationship is a new step forward rather than a step back.  Leave us with the uncertainty that maybe it won't work out with Robin, instead of heavily implying that this was end game all along.  It would be tough because of their lengthy history together, but I think it would have helped the story.  Granted, I think they did try to plant some seeds of that idea.  I just think it could have been done better.


Overall though, I'm fine with the ending.  As I said, I'm mostly ambivalent about it right now, and I expect that I'll grow to like it more over time.  It'll probably re-colour older episodes in a new light.
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 01, 2014, 12:15:22 pm
@eHalyconYeah, I understand your sentiment.  But I guess I'm okay with just having some facts and filling the rest in my imagination or personal understanding instead of having them shown.  So for me knowing all those years passed was enough, I didn't actually have to see a montage or anything.

Plus, I liked it as a final reveal, and I think ending in a open and hopeful way is very much in line with what they've done and how they've shown Ted all these years.  It was also a nice touch  by ending it the same way things started, except now what was an insane and irrational display of emotion is a sweet and touching display of emotion.  And Robin's reaction showed this.  It also shows that both characters have changed throughout all these years.. Robin is finally past her being totally free and independent phase, and is ready for something serious. Ted is showing that he can still be thoughtful and romantic, but instead of being the young crazy guy who is ready to fall in love with everyone he sees, he's an older, more mature man who has come to terms with his emotions and all that he's been through.  But he still has that capacity of hope, except now it's a much more mature and responsible hope.
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Post by: Kuildeous on April 01, 2014, 12:29:09 pm
Also, it kind of implies that the jokes don't hold up well enough on their own. I can't think of a British comedy that uses them, is it just an American thing?

I believe that the IT Crowd had a laugh track, but I'd have to go back and look.

What sucks is Monty Python's Flying Circus had a freakin' laugh track. Even the closed captioning tells you when the audience is laughing. Flying Circus is definitely a case of misplaced laugh track, because that show never should have had one (though I believe no show should have one).
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Post by: Kuildeous on April 01, 2014, 01:40:06 pm
Ah yes, Big Bang Theory: a nerd blackface minstrel show with a side of "Asperger Syndrome is hilarious."


I had to +1 this just for that description. Fortunately, I knew it was funny because the laugh track told me so.

I feel like there is at least a certain amount of integrity when the laugh track comes from a live studio audience. At least that is more sincere than a recording of laughter being inserted. I know there are prompts for the audience, and I don't know how often it gets used. I'd like to think that if a show is legitimately funny, then the audience needs no prompt, but if they shoot the same scene four time, then I'm sure the laughter becomes more forced.

But it does lead to those awkward moments like the Cosby Show or Monty Python.

The problem with laugh tracks is that I don't think anyone actually enjoys them. The best you get is indifference. But despite the fact that the mean response is negative, they persist, which means there's a marketing reason that laugh tracks are used, and I hate that.
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Post by: sudgy on April 01, 2014, 01:56:28 pm
The freakiest thing about laugh tracks is that most of them were recorded ages ago so it's a bunch of dead people laughing.
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 01, 2014, 02:01:30 pm
I always felt like Monty Python's laugh track was more of a meta thing.  Like it was lampooning shows that have laugh tracks.
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Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 02:06:57 pm
Thinking back on it, I like Monty Python's laugh track.

Now I'm scared.
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Post by: Dsell on April 01, 2014, 02:08:21 pm
http://www.homestarrunner.com/

First update in years! :D
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Post by: Axxle on April 01, 2014, 02:14:11 pm
Monty Python was filmed in front of a live audience, no laugh track except for the skits that incorporated one really obviously.
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Post by: Ozle on April 01, 2014, 03:29:06 pm
Monty Python was filmed in front of a live audience, no laugh track except for the skits that incorporated one really obviously.

Ahh Python.
Are you taking about flying circus?
Didn't realise it was live
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Post by: Ozle on April 01, 2014, 03:30:08 pm
Laugh tracks always seem condescending to me

I know what I find funny thanks.

Also, it kind of implies that the jokes don't hold up well enough on their own. I can't think of a British comedy that uses them, is it just an American thing?

"Keeping Up Appearances" I believe...I was just watching it on Netflix


Seriously?!
Out of all the great British comedies there are out there, you are watching Keeping Up Appearences?!?

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Post by: eHalcyon on April 01, 2014, 03:40:56 pm
Good news guys!  If you've ever been interested in creating a viral meme, Youtube is now accepting user submissions!

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Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 01, 2014, 03:47:46 pm
Laugh tracks always seem condescending to me

I know what I find funny thanks.

Also, it kind of implies that the jokes don't hold up well enough on their own. I can't think of a British comedy that uses them, is it just an American thing?

"Keeping Up Appearances" I believe...I was just watching it on Netflix


Seriously?!
Out of all the great British comedies there are out there, you are watching Keeping Up Appearences?!?

You asked for a counterexample! My roommate had it on and it didn't seem too awful...certainly no Monty Python or Jeeves and Wooster, but passable to my boorish American sensibilities
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Post by: Axxle on April 01, 2014, 03:50:29 pm
10/10 would glub glub.
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 01, 2014, 03:53:17 pm
10/10 would glub glub.

Make sure you check out the detailed videos on each upcoming meme.  I'm particularly impressed with the thought behind clocking.  My favourite memes are the ones involving deep philosophical quandaries.
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Post by: Teproc on April 01, 2014, 03:57:08 pm
Didn't Fawlty Towers have a laugh track/audience ?
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Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 04:01:52 pm
Didn't Fawlty Towers have a laugh track/audience ?

Didn't most comedies, if they're old enough? It's excusable if the show is old.
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Post by: Teproc on April 01, 2014, 04:18:03 pm
I was responding to Ozle's comment about British comedies.

I generally dislike laugh track/studio audiences, but in some shows it doesn't bother me because I'm just used to them : Friends and HIMYM mainly.
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Post by: Kuildeous on April 01, 2014, 04:24:57 pm
Ahh Python.
Are you taking about flying circus?
Didn't realise it was live

I would certainly say that portions of them were not filmed in front of a studio audience. Upperclass Twit of the Year and the various animations must have been shown to an audience while their laughter was recorded. But the dead parrot sketch and the Argument Clinic very easily could have been filmed in front of a studio audience.

I remember when Roc was on the air that it was filmed in front of a studio audience. This was a big deal because they showed one episode live. Of course with enough rehearsal, any sitcom that reasonably takes place in the same location could be played live. Even some location changes can be done.
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 01, 2014, 04:28:43 pm
Guys.  Guys.  Go to xkcd (http://xkcd.com/1350/) now.
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 01, 2014, 04:36:07 pm
Guys.  Guys.  Go to xkcd (http://xkcd.com/1350/) now.

Wow.  And there goes the rest of today.  Just like that.
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Post by: Ozle on April 01, 2014, 04:57:38 pm
Am I missing something?
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Post by: Ozle on April 01, 2014, 05:01:22 pm
Laugh tracks always seem condescending to me

I know what I find funny thanks.

Also, it kind of implies that the jokes don't hold up well enough on their own. I can't think of a British comedy that uses them, is it just an American thing?

"Keeping Up Appearances" I believe...I was just watching it on Netflix


Seriously?!
Out of all the great British comedies there are out there, you are watching Keeping Up Appearences?!?

You asked for a counterexample! My roommate had it on and it didn't seem too awful...certainly no Monty Python or Jeeves and Wooster, but passable to my boorish American sensibilities

Yes but I didn't want terrible 90s sitcoms being used, slap your room mate (room mate or house mate? Do you share a room? Is that a too personal question?)

And then tell him to watch something decent....
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Post by: Kuildeous on April 01, 2014, 06:10:15 pm
Guys.  Guys.  Go to xkcd (http://xkcd.com/1350/) now.

Wow.  And there goes the rest of today.  Just like that.

Goddammit! And I still haven't beaten 2048. *glares*
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Post by: Voltaire on April 01, 2014, 07:33:22 pm
(room mate or house mate? Do you share a room? Is that a too personal question?)

Americans say "room mate" for both categories. At least I do and so does everyone here I have ever met.
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Post by: Tables on April 01, 2014, 07:40:18 pm
(room mate or house mate? Do you share a room? Is that a too personal question?)

Americans say "room mate" for both categories. At least I do and so does everyone here I have ever met.

As an aside, I've always found it weird how sharing rooms is so common in the US. In the UK, it's pretty rare to have two strangers share a room, but in US it seems to be the usual university setup. I guess part of it is due to us Brits valuing privacy more than you lot in the US, but even so I couldn't imagine having to go to uni and sharing my room with someone I've never met.
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Post by: SirPeebles on April 01, 2014, 07:43:39 pm
(room mate or house mate? Do you share a room? Is that a too personal question?)

Americans say "room mate" for both categories. At least I do and so does everyone here I have ever met.

I've spent much of my life living in cooperative, communal houses of a couple dozen people.  I use "house mate" to refer to one of the other twenty or so people who live in the house with me, but "room mate" to refer to the other person or two who sleep in the same room as me.
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Post by: mail-mi on April 01, 2014, 07:43:53 pm
Good news guys!  If you've ever been interested in creating a viral meme, Youtube is now accepting user submissions!

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Robz that's awe...

wait...
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Post by: Kirian on April 01, 2014, 11:34:12 pm
(room mate or house mate? Do you share a room? Is that a too personal question?)

Americans say "room mate" for both categories. At least I do and so does everyone here I have ever met.

As an aside, I've always found it weird how sharing rooms is so common in the US. In the UK, it's pretty rare to have two strangers share a room, but in US it seems to be the usual university setup. I guess part of it is due to us Brits valuing privacy more than you lot in the US, but even so I couldn't imagine having to go to uni and sharing my room with someone I've never met.

Isn't it quite common at lower education levels, though?  At least for those who go to boarding schools?

Sharing a dorm room is pretty standard in the US at the university level, though, yes.  Sharing a room outside of the dorm is less common, though splitting an apartment or house among N people is incredibly common.
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Post by: Tables on April 02, 2014, 08:09:43 am
(room mate or house mate? Do you share a room? Is that a too personal question?)

Americans say "room mate" for both categories. At least I do and so does everyone here I have ever met.

As an aside, I've always found it weird how sharing rooms is so common in the US. In the UK, it's pretty rare to have two strangers share a room, but in US it seems to be the usual university setup. I guess part of it is due to us Brits valuing privacy more than you lot in the US, but even so I couldn't imagine having to go to uni and sharing my room with someone I've never met.

Isn't it quite common at lower education levels, though?  At least for those who go to boarding schools?

Sharing a dorm room is pretty standard in the US at the university level, though, yes.  Sharing a room outside of the dorm is less common, though splitting an apartment or house among N people is incredibly common.

Hm, I suppose that's true, but I think it gets more and more difficult as teens get older, go through puberty and want more privacy, and also boarding schools (to the best of my knowledge) tend to have fairly strict times on going to bed. By Uni, you're in charge of your own life pretty much, so you could just happen to go to bed at vastly different times or whatnot.

Sharing a house is pretty normal in the UK as well. The majority of my (unmarried) friends share with around 2-4 other friends. I think that's very different though. The big thing being that you always have a space you can go to and not be bothered in. If you'd had a bad day, the last thing you'd want is to come home to your roommate constantly playing LoL and screaming at his teammates in your room.
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Post by: Ozle on April 02, 2014, 08:55:04 am
Also, you have to be rich/posh to go to boarding schools.

I'm neither if those , tables is a northerner to my knowledge so is unlikely to have done so either. And well Tinas is clearly a chav!
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Post by: Kuildeous on April 02, 2014, 08:58:28 am
I saw on Facebook a friend of a friend commenting with Every Single Word Capitalized Throughout His Entire Post.

Someone else called him out on it, and he claimed that it's because he's European. He's always typed that way. I have never heard of a standard where someone types every word capitalized. And the Europeans on here don't do it. Has anyone run into someone using this "standard"?

I'm thinking this may have been an April Fool's prank. I would say that it took a lot of effort to pull off, but then again not really. You just type your response in Word, select all, and press Shift+F3.
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Post by: Kirian on April 02, 2014, 09:02:15 am
I saw on Facebook a friend of a friend commenting with Every Single Word Capitalized Throughout His Entire Post.

Someone else called him out on it, and he claimed that it's because he's European. He's always typed that way. I have never heard of a standard where someone types every word capitalized. And the Europeans on here don't do it. Has anyone run into someone using this "standard"?

I'm thinking this may have been an April Fool's prank. I would say that it took a lot of effort to pull off, but then again not really. You just type your response in Word, select all, and press Shift+F3.


Sounds like AFD, yes.  The only Europeans who come close to that are those who speak German, and then it's still only the nouns that are capitalized.
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Post by: Ozle on April 02, 2014, 09:03:03 am
Well I Can't Speak For Every European, But It's Definately Not The Standard Here In The Uk (Nor In Tuvalu)
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Post by: Teproc on April 02, 2014, 09:09:25 am
I would assume it's a joke about Americans thinking Europeans are weird and let them get away with stuff because of it. Like if you watch Hannibal (the NBC show), it seems like the characters are thinking "He's a little weird, but I think that's just because he's European", when really he's just weird and should probably ring alarm bells.
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 02, 2014, 02:19:17 pm
Given the recent discussion about Monty Python, I expect some of you might enjoy the current Monty Python-athon at shirt.woot.com (http://shirt.woot.com/plus/monty-python-a-thon).
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Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 02, 2014, 03:50:26 pm
Also, you have to be rich/posh to go to boarding schools.

I'm neither if those , tables is a northerner to my knowledge so is unlikely to have done so either. And well Tinas is clearly a chav!

Innit blud.
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 02, 2014, 04:19:48 pm
OK, League of Legends had one of the best April Fools pranks ever yesterday.  They created a game mode with 80% CDR and no mana costs.  They've actually released it on their client (apparently available for a week) and they got several pro teams to play each other in exhibition matches with shoutcasters and everything.  Spectacular.
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Post by: Watno on April 02, 2014, 04:55:15 pm
Basically copying a mode that has been in DotA forever doesn't sound particularily creative to me.
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Post by: Ozle on April 02, 2014, 04:58:21 pm
Ohhh are we starting he LoL vs Dtoa discussion again!

I have always found LoL has more humour
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Post by: Axxle on April 02, 2014, 05:03:35 pm
Ohhh are we starting he LoL vs Dtoa discussion again!

I have always found LoL has more humour
DotA vs LoL
Rolled 1d2 : 1, total 1
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Post by: Axxle on April 02, 2014, 05:03:46 pm
DotA is better.
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Post by: blueblimp on April 02, 2014, 05:20:10 pm
I feel like there is at least a certain amount of integrity when the laugh track comes from a live studio audience.
Yep. I loathe pre-recorded laugh tracks, but I like live studio audience laughter. It makes a huge difference that people are laughing at what actually is funny rather than what the show creators want to be funny. That said, I've been in a live studio audience once, and I vaguely recall some laughter being added in post-production for jokes that fell flat with the live audience.

Red Dwarf is another UK show that used a live studio audience for laughter, though I haven't seen it since I was a kid so I don't know whether I'd like it today.
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 02, 2014, 05:26:27 pm
I feel like there is at least a certain amount of integrity when the laugh track comes from a live studio audience.
Yep. I loathe pre-recorded laugh tracks, but I like live studio audience laughter. It makes a huge difference that people are laughing at what actually is funny rather than what the show creators want to be funny. That said, I've been in a live studio audience once, and I vaguely recall some laughter being added in post-production for jokes that fell flat with the live audience.

Red Dwarf is another UK show that used a live studio audience for laughter, though I haven't seen it since I was a kid so I don't know whether I'd like it today.

I loved Red Dwarf!  It was, like, pinnacle of intentionally cheesy sci-fi.  I really liked the theme song too.

I also read something about How I Met Your Mother getting their laugh track by showing their episodes to test viewers and recording them laughing. 
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 02, 2014, 05:44:40 pm
Basically copying a mode that has been in DotA forever doesn't sound particularily creative to me.

Well they did announce it as an official change and had a big production around it. :P
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Post by: ashersky on April 02, 2014, 06:57:06 pm
Ohmygod SportsNight didn't originally have a laugh track? I need to give it another shot. I apparently unintentionally watched that version and didn't know it wasn't the original.

Most underrated show ever.
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Post by: Tables on April 02, 2014, 07:22:41 pm
Also, you have to be rich/posh to go to boarding schools.

I'm neither if those , tables is a northerner to my knowledge so is unlikely to have done so either. And well Tinas is clearly a chav!

1) My name is a name, it has a capital letter in it :(
2) Nope, southern. My hometown is south of Cambridge even. That said I didn't go to a boarding school.
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Post by: KingZog3 on April 02, 2014, 07:25:38 pm
Did anyone else see this amazing April Fool's joke?

http://www.goat-simulator.com/ (http://www.goat-simulator.com/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on April 02, 2014, 10:37:23 pm
Did anyone else see this amazing April Fool's joke?

http://www.goat-simulator.com/ (http://www.goat-simulator.com/)
That's actually a real thing. See the FAQ:

Quote
Q: bro are u srs

A: Yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 02, 2014, 11:51:49 pm
Did anyone else see this amazing April Fool's joke?

http://www.goat-simulator.com/ (http://www.goat-simulator.com/)
That's actually a real thing. See the FAQ:

Quote
Q: bro are u srs

A: Yes.

I know its real. It was also released on April 1st. It is a joke, despite being serious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on April 03, 2014, 12:18:57 am
Did anyone else see this amazing April Fool's joke?

http://www.goat-simulator.com/ (http://www.goat-simulator.com/)
That's actually a real thing. See the FAQ:

Quote
Q: bro are u srs

A: Yes.

I know its real. It was also released on April 1st. It is a joke, despite being serious.
I was trying to make a joke, but I guess on the internet it's hard to get what people mean sometimes. Whatever.
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Post by: florrat on April 03, 2014, 12:30:26 am
I stumbled upon this website today: http://www.kleinbottle.com/index.htm

If you want to buy a real Klein Bottle (immersed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(mathematics)) into three dimensions) made from glass, check this website out! If you don't, but want a good laugh, also check it out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 03, 2014, 07:06:50 am
Also, you have to be rich/posh to go to boarding schools.

I'm neither if those , tables is a northerner to my knowledge so is unlikely to have done so either. And well Tinas is clearly a chav!

1) My name is a name, it has a capital letter in it :(
2) Nope, southern. My hometown is south of Cambridge even. That said I didn't go to a boarding school.

Sorry taBles

But Cambridge.... Still north of Watford
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Post by: Kirian on April 03, 2014, 08:27:33 am
I stumbled upon this website today: http://www.kleinbottle.com/index.htm

If you want to buy a real Klein Bottle (immersed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(mathematics)) into three dimensions) made from glass, check this website out! If you don't, but want a good laugh, also check it out.

Cliff Stoll is pure awesome.  We've purchased from him before.
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Post by: Tables on April 03, 2014, 10:17:22 pm
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/679059551/oneupmanship-mines-bigger-alpha-males-only

Their kickstarter claims it's satire. After watching the videos there, I think they don't know what satire is.

This just came onto my radar on YT, and I think this just about sums it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=914 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=914)
From there for about 40 seconds. Yeah...
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 03, 2014, 10:30:06 pm
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/679059551/oneupmanship-mines-bigger-alpha-males-only

Their kickstarter claims it's satire. After watching the videos there, I think they don't know what satire is.

This just came onto my radar on YT, and I think this just about sums it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=914 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=914)
From there for about 40 seconds. Yeah...

This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=857) is still the part I find most hilarious/scary.
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Post by: Tables on April 03, 2014, 10:38:34 pm
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/679059551/oneupmanship-mines-bigger-alpha-males-only

Their kickstarter claims it's satire. After watching the videos there, I think they don't know what satire is.

This just came onto my radar on YT, and I think this just about sums it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=914 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=914)
From there for about 40 seconds. Yeah...

This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=18b0XYf05tA#t=857) is still the part I find most hilarious/scary.

Oh, yeah, that as well.

Really this game, I can't tell if it's meant to be a serious, but humourous, game (think e.g. Galaxy Trucker or maybe more Munchkin), or if it's just meant to be a parody of Monopoly and terrible board gaming mechanics. I just... wow... I really can't (or maybe don't want to) believe someone made this as a genuine attempt to be a legitimate game.
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Post by: Witherweaver on April 04, 2014, 03:34:03 pm
Schrodinger's USB drive:

http://imgur.com/gallery/yyEwOHK
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Post by: eHalcyon on April 04, 2014, 03:41:27 pm
Schrodinger's USB drive:

http://imgur.com/gallery/yyEwOHK

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a316dd567959e32f16b6905b8ccc63d5/tumblr_n2plilwyhB1qljj91o1_500.gif)
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Post by: SirPeebles on April 04, 2014, 03:52:56 pm
Schrodinger's USB drive:

http://imgur.com/gallery/yyEwOHK

[smut]

Whoa, take it to RSP
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 04, 2014, 03:54:32 pm
This just proves that USB cables exist in four dimensions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 04, 2014, 04:01:47 pm
Schrodinger's USB drive:

http://imgur.com/gallery/yyEwOHK

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a316dd567959e32f16b6905b8ccc63d5/tumblr_n2plilwyhB1qljj91o1_500.gif)

I'm going to upvote your post once the plug goes in.
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Post by: Axxle on April 04, 2014, 04:26:21 pm
Schrodinger's USB drive:

http://imgur.com/gallery/yyEwOHK


I'm going to upvote your post once the plug goes in.
https://imgur.com/gallery/ubCLK
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 04, 2014, 04:27:46 pm
Schrodinger's USB drive:

http://imgur.com/gallery/yyEwOHK


I'm going to upvote your post once the plug goes in.
https://imgur.com/gallery/ubCLK

I'm going to upvote your post once I'm satisfied.

...Okay just kidding, I'll upvote it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 04, 2014, 06:21:48 pm
I almost bought Bravely Default for download play today, before realising I was almost out of memory on my 2GB SD card. I decided I should probably google and find out how big the game was. It's, uh, about 3.5GB on it's own (25K blocks). So yeah, I might just wait until I can get a physical copy (or a bigger SD card...).

Also this doesn't even consider the download time. My biggest game is about 4.4K blocks and I think took well over an hour, probably closer to two, to download. So this would likely take the best part of an afternoon.
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Post by: SirPeebles on April 04, 2014, 06:29:24 pm
So cool!  How to calculate 6 + 4 using 10,000 dominoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpLU__bhu2w&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 04, 2014, 07:06:15 pm
So cool!  How to calculate 6 + 4 using 10,000 dominoes.

Someone subscribes to Numberphile... :P
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Post by: sudgy on April 04, 2014, 11:34:50 pm
So cool!  How to calculate 6 + 4 using 10,000 dominoes.

Someone subscribes to Numberphile... :P

The video actually wasn't posted on Numberphile...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 05, 2014, 01:24:48 am
Aw, I was really really hoping the second one would work!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 05, 2014, 07:13:19 am
So cool!  How to calculate 6 + 4 using 10,000 dominoes.

Someone subscribes to Numberphile... :P

The video actually wasn't posted on Numberphile...

Spoken like someone who doesn't subscribe to Numberphile.  Tsk.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on April 05, 2014, 01:29:58 pm
I kind of want to go to toys r us and buy some dominoes to try it out... That was sweet!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 05, 2014, 02:57:28 pm
So cool!  How to calculate 6 + 4 using 10,000 dominoes.

Damn you, Common Core!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 05, 2014, 07:25:59 pm
So cool!  How to calculate 6 + 4 using 10,000 dominoes.

Damn you, Common Core!

Careful, if you start insulting common core you'll have Robz coming down on you, he loves it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 05, 2014, 08:16:11 pm
So cool!  How to calculate 6 + 4 using 10,000 dominoes.

Damn you, Common Core!

Careful, if you start insulting common core you'll have Robz coming down on you, he loves it

He also loves satire!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 05, 2014, 11:13:00 pm
I've been watching the new Cosmos series each week and enjoying it, but last night's episode seemed rather off the mark in its discussion of black holes.

Is this good?
Just about to start over here in the uk

The first two episodes were quite good.  I haven't had the chance to watch Eps 3 and 4.

Episode 3 is my favorite thus far.  My biggest complaint about Episode 4 is that they made it seem like crossing the event horizon of a black hole is some dramatic and sudden experience.  I don't know of a single physicist who believes that.  Also, there was some rather wild speculation of what is across the black hole.  There is already so much interesting stuff to say about black holes with better established physics.

I finally got a chance to watch Episode 3 tonight.

I want to reach through my screen and nut-punch Alan Silvestri and the entire sound-editing crew.  Turn the damned music down, if I want soaring music with my space I'll go watch Wrath of Khan again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 05, 2014, 11:15:31 pm
I've been watching the new Cosmos series each week and enjoying it, but last night's episode seemed rather off the mark in its discussion of black holes.

Is this good?
Just about to start over here in the uk

The first two episodes were quite good.  I haven't had the chance to watch Eps 3 and 4.

Episode 3 is my favorite thus far.  My biggest complaint about Episode 4 is that they made it seem like crossing the event horizon of a black hole is some dramatic and sudden experience.  I don't know of a single physicist who believes that.  Also, there was some rather wild speculation of what is across the black hole.  There is already so much interesting stuff to say about black holes with better established physics.

I finally got a chance to watch Episode 3 tonight.

I want to reach through my screen and nut-punch Alan Silvestri and the entire sound-editing crew.  Turn the damned music down, if I want soaring music with my space I'll go watch Wrath of Khan again.

Yeah, do you have trouble hearing all the spoken words?  I have to turn the TV up to hear everything clearly, but then the background sound/music dominates and is too loud at other times. 

I have a similar problem with Hannibal, and some other TV shows.  I thought maybe it was just my TV or the settings, but I'm having a hard time hearing the spoken word clearly in Cosmos and other shows.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 06, 2014, 12:05:15 am
Anyone here play FTL?  And if you do, how awesome is the advanced edition?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 06, 2014, 04:30:43 am
Anyone here play FTL?  And if you do, how awesome is the advanced edition?
there's an advanced edition?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 06, 2014, 07:31:48 am
I've been watching the new Cosmos series each week and enjoying it, but last night's episode seemed rather off the mark in its discussion of black holes.

Is this good?
Just about to start over here in the uk

The first two episodes were quite good.  I haven't had the chance to watch Eps 3 and 4.

Episode 3 is my favorite thus far.  My biggest complaint about Episode 4 is that they made it seem like crossing the event horizon of a black hole is some dramatic and sudden experience.  I don't know of a single physicist who believes that.  Also, there was some rather wild speculation of what is across the black hole.  There is already so much interesting stuff to say about black holes with better established physics.

I finally got a chance to watch Episode 3 tonight.

I want to reach through my screen and nut-punch Alan Silvestri and the entire sound-editing crew.  Turn the damned music down, if I want soaring music with my space I'll go watch Wrath of Khan again.

Yeah, do you have trouble hearing all the spoken words?  I have to turn the TV up to hear everything clearly, but then the background sound/music dominates and is too loud at other times. 

I have a similar problem with Hannibal, and some other TV shows.  I thought maybe it was just my TV or the settings, but I'm having a hard time hearing the spoken word clearly in Cosmos and other shows.

Hmm, I didn't notice any sound issues.  I don't have a television, so I watch on hulu with my headphones.  I'm already used to adjusting the volume on my laptop every time I watch a video.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 06, 2014, 09:03:38 am
Anyone here play FTL?  And if you do, how awesome is the advanced edition?
there's an advanced edition?
Came out Thursday
It's a free update that adds a lot more content and has a lot of UI improvements.
Here's the trailer they released before the game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWTy4kiNXeY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 07, 2014, 03:46:19 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/badadfaa015d07056f995d46bbbb505f/tumblr_n3i490xY1l1qjnhqgo1_400.jpg)

Perspective.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 07, 2014, 04:05:24 pm
Also.... Grammar (or possibly spelling, dependant on what they were actually trying to say)

Unless of course there is a country ruled by King Collin the first.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 07, 2014, 04:08:07 pm
Got FTL for the iPad. Definitely good stuff in there. Have not bothered with advanced stuff yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 07, 2014, 04:22:47 pm
Two more random things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9rymEWJX38

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/39a71351c02848063a5190b8de29dfd5/tumblr_n2wn4bHFoE1soz9yao1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on April 07, 2014, 04:37:47 pm
http://www.stefanom.org/spc/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 07, 2014, 04:51:32 pm
http://www.stefanom.org/spc/

4.3M after a few tries...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 07, 2014, 05:04:22 pm
What is FTL?  I keep reading it as For The Loss!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 07, 2014, 05:06:23 pm
What is FTL?  I keep reading it as For The Loss!

Isn't there a trailer in the same post that just mentioned it?
Can't view YouTube from here but looks like it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 07, 2014, 05:08:08 pm
What is FTL?  I keep reading it as For The Loss!

Isn't there a trailer in the same post that just mentioned it?
Can't view YouTube from here but looks like it

I assume all links in the thread are rick rolls.

I just wanted to know what it stands for.  Fabulous Table Linens?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 07, 2014, 05:08:55 pm
What is FTL?  I keep reading it as For The Loss!

Isn't there a trailer in the same post that just mentioned it?
Can't view YouTube from here but looks like it

I assume all links in the thread are rick rolls.

I just wanted to know what it stands for.  Fabulous Table Linens?

It's for Mafia: F*** That Lynch.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on April 07, 2014, 05:18:22 pm
Given the theme, I'd guess FTL stands for Faster Than Light
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 07, 2014, 05:22:53 pm
What is FTL?  I keep reading it as For The Loss!

Isn't there a trailer in the same post that just mentioned it?
Can't view YouTube from here but looks like it

I assume all links in the thread are rick rolls.

I just wanted to know what it stands for.  Fabulous Table Linens?

In that case I won't post a link to the topic, but if you go to board 50.0 here at dominionstrategy (just edit your URL) you'll find a discussion about this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 07, 2014, 05:31:07 pm
 Board 50.0 is from 2011 and discusses how Horse Traders neuters Minion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 07, 2014, 05:32:27 pm
Board 50.0 is from 2011 and discusses how Horse Traders neuters Minion.

Don't you listen to ashersky, my minions.  I'm never gonna give you up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 07, 2014, 05:34:53 pm
Board 50.0 is from 2011 and discusses how Horse Traders neuters Minion.

Don't you listen to ashersky, my minions.  I'm never gonna give you up.

I lack understanding.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 07, 2014, 05:35:36 pm
What is FTL?  I keep reading it as For The Loss!

Isn't there a trailer in the same post that just mentioned it?
Can't view YouTube from here but looks like it

I assume all links in the thread are rick rolls.

I just wanted to know what it stands for.  Fabulous Table Linens?

Eh, it's not a word link though, it's an embedded YouTube trailer, clicking play doesn't take you anywhere...

Oh and it's :
Free The Luxembourg
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 07, 2014, 05:37:50 pm
Board 50.0 is from 2011 and discusses how Horse Traders neuters Minion.

Don't you listen to ashersky, my minions.  I'm never gonna give you up.

Rickroll level: Superior.  Would be ultimate if that thread had an embedded Rickroll video.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 07, 2014, 05:44:57 pm
Board 50.0 is from 2011 and discusses how Horse Traders neuters Minion.

You want the board (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=50.0), not the topic (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=50.0).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 07, 2014, 06:10:45 pm
http://www.stefanom.org/spc/

4.3M after a few tries...

Best score so far is 5,650,694 over 105.8 years.  It looks really stable but then suddenly the starting planet shoots off into space.  Weird.

...

Now I've got 10,329,012 over 188.3 years.  It looked much less stable, but it lasted longer.  That tiny starting planet came so close to the edge so many times.

...

Now I've got 14,999,531 over 479.6 years. 



I just don't understand how the crowdedness bonus works.


Edit: Hahaha, managed to work a Brown dwarf into the mix and it stayed stable to the end for 44,689,741 points.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 07, 2014, 06:45:46 pm
Board 50.0 is from 2011 and discusses how Horse Traders neuters Minion.

Don't you listen to ashersky, my minions.  I'm never gonna give you up.

Rickroll level: Superior.  Would be ultimate if that thread had an embedded Rickroll video.

I still don't understand.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on April 07, 2014, 06:56:05 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2DoDjQi.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 07, 2014, 07:51:40 pm
Yeah I have no idea how you do that.  My basic strategy was to just balance a bunch of Giant planets all in the same ring in the habitable zone.  If I space them out well (and the starting planet is in a decent spot) then it stays very stable. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 07, 2014, 08:49:08 pm
I don't get it... I just got 2mil and that's good for me...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on April 07, 2014, 09:41:42 pm
Hints, in increasing order of helpfulness:
Think about which strategy awards the most points.
Try to make a stable system with a dwarf star.
Don't try to place two dwarf stars. 3-body problems are chaotic and will never(?) be stable.
You also want 12 bodies to increase your multipliers.
To make a system with a dwarf star stable(-ish), try to let it have an almost constant influence on your other planets.
Your other bodies should be earths to minimize their gravitational effects
Put your dwarf star right next to the central star (you can click on top of the star to place it right next to it).
Place your Earths in the habitable zone after you've placed your dwarf star, to make their orbit (initially) circular.
Your initial planet should be somewhere around the habitable zone. To keep its orbit circular, place the dwarf star at point X such that - viewed from the central star - the angle between X and the initial planet is 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 07, 2014, 09:43:53 pm
That's such a cool spoiler tag effect!

Hints, in increasing order of helpfulness:
Think about which strategy awards the most points.
Try to make a stable system with a dwarf star.
Don't try to place two dwarf stars. 3-body problems are chaotic and will never(?) be stable.
You also want 12 bodies to increase your multipliers.
To make a system with a dwarf star stable(-ish), try to let it have an almost constant influence on your other planets.
Your other bodies should be earths to minimize their gravitational effects
Put your dwarf star right next to the central star (you can click on top of the star to place it right next to it).
Place your Earths in the habitable zone after you've placed your dwarf star, to make their orbit (initially) circular.
Your initial planet should be somewhere around the habitable zone. To keep its orbit circular, place the dwarf star at point X such that - viewed from the central star - the angle between X and the initial planet is 90 degrees.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 07, 2014, 10:29:52 pm
Nice tips!  I was doing something similar, but I underestimated the value of different things I guess.

My high score was Brown Dwarf placed at the center and Giant Planets all around.  Didn't realize Dwarf Star + Earths had so much more potential.

Edit: my new high score is now 125,467,004.  Lasted until the end, though orbits slowly became elliptical.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 07, 2014, 10:45:07 pm
Thanks florrat!

(http://www.invirtuo.cc/img/planetcrash.png)

Alas, I seem to be unable to submit my score :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on April 07, 2014, 10:49:13 pm
Kind of ashamed that, after playing around for awhile, I got 13.9 million by simply adding one dwarf star, obliterating my previous records.  :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 08, 2014, 05:16:58 pm
Character customization

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TP4L1vHfpk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 08, 2014, 06:18:44 pm
Character customization

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TP4L1vHfpk

Meanwhile, at playdominion.com:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/gokoavatar.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 09, 2014, 09:41:48 pm
The LHC appears to have discovered a tetraquark.

http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2014/04/lhcb-confirms-existence-exotic-hadrons
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 10, 2014, 07:49:52 pm
 :o

"We found (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/) that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S.  to intervene with military force."

(http://i.imgur.com/CuiXOqV.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 10, 2014, 08:12:40 pm
So 4 people tought the Russians had taken over a place in central america....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 10, 2014, 08:37:47 pm
So 4 people tought the Russians had taken over a place in central america....

There are also like a dozen dots in various oceans, a disturbing number in Greenland and Canada... and even some in Alaska?  Wait, there are 5 dots in the middle of continental USA?  Uhhhh...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 10, 2014, 08:56:44 pm
So 4 people tought the Russians had taken over a place in central america....

There are also like a dozen dots in various oceans, a disturbing number in Greenland and Canada... and even some in Alaska?  Wait, there are 5 dots in the middle of continental USA?  Uhhhh...

Tonight on News at 10, Russia invades Nebraska.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 10, 2014, 09:55:37 pm
I'm willing to give a bit more leeway to some of these answers than the researchers did--and a bit less to others.  Probably because distance isn't the most important factor here.  Recognizing that Russia is invading one of its former soviets is important as well.  I think the large clusters of people choosing Kazakhstan and Georgia are doing far better than anyone who chose a spot in Europe that wasn't once part of the Warsaw Pact, but a click in France is actually treated better than the clicks in the middle of Kazakhstan, and the few clicks in the Baltic Sea are on the same level as the large number of clicks in Georgia.  Heck, the clicks in Georgia ought to be considered an order of magnitude better than all the clicks in the middle of the Black Sea... but then again, I don't like the lack of blue on this map to show where the water is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 11, 2014, 08:22:16 am
I made a cover of the track "absolute configuration" from the Puella Magi Madoka Magica The Movie: The Rebellion Story Original Sound Track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNnJvmjy0OE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 11, 2014, 03:22:59 pm
I felt bad breaking her heart by explaining that just because you do a Bing search on "Free Call Center Photos" that does not give you the rights to use the results without purchase, especially since there are apparently web sites dedicated to call centers that use the word "Free" a lot. Unsurprisingly, these sites use a lot of stock images.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 11, 2014, 03:51:22 pm
...just because you do a Bing search...

People use Bing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 11, 2014, 04:24:40 pm
...just because you do a Bing search...

People use Bing?

It startled me too when I received the link.

Kind of explains a few things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on April 11, 2014, 05:02:16 pm
...just because you do a Bing search...

People use Bing?
If you join Bing Rewards you can get some free stuff by searching. Or you could use a bot, like I do  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 11, 2014, 05:55:30 pm
I can get free stuff for googling with Bing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 11, 2014, 06:47:18 pm
6 months of premium Bing membership
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 11, 2014, 07:03:32 pm
Do you get a machine that goes, "Bing"?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 12, 2014, 04:07:44 am
I tried it, just kept coming up with White Christmas
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 12, 2014, 05:58:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAEaA31EdtU
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 12, 2014, 11:37:24 pm
Just had a conversation with Robert Picardo, best known perhaps for his portrayal of the holodoctor from Star Trek: Voyager

(http://i.imgur.com/g0FoqZg.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on April 13, 2014, 12:22:23 pm
Just had a conversation with Robert Picardo, best known perhaps for his portrayal of the holodoctor from Star Trek: Voyager

It's Woolsey!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 13, 2014, 12:57:24 pm
This is for you, Awaclus.

http://9gag.com/gag/aM1WXNG?ref=fb.s
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 13, 2014, 01:03:40 pm
Just had a conversation with Robert Picardo, best known perhaps for his portrayal of the holodoctor from Star Trek: Voyager

It's Woolsey!

Next time you see him, can you see if they have a way of making decent sized image posts in the future?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 13, 2014, 01:06:56 pm
This is for you, Awaclus.

http://9gag.com/gag/aM1WXNG?ref=fb.s

This is kind of like the "300 words for snow" thing that everyone still believes about the Eskimo-Aleut languages.  Agglutinative languages do this sort of thing, certainly, but those aren't really separate declensions.  But then again, even a dog/the dog/two dogs doesn't really count as declension.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 13, 2014, 09:02:28 pm
Just had a conversation with Robert Picardo, best known perhaps for his portrayal of the holodoctor from Star Trek: Voyager

It's Woolsey!

Next time you see him, can you see if they have a way of making decent sized image posts in the future?

Part of his contract stipulated that all photos of him should be life size, to give the authentic holodoctor experience.

Also cut me a break, I've been unusually drunk this weekend haha
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 13, 2014, 11:35:42 pm
Just had a conversation with Robert Picardo, best known perhaps for his portrayal of the holodoctor from Star Trek: Voyager

It's Woolsey!

Stargate ftw.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 13, 2014, 11:42:02 pm
Just had a conversation with Robert Picardo, best known perhaps for his portrayal of the holodoctor from Star Trek: Voyager

(http://i.imgur.com/g0FoqZg.jpg)
Pro tip: you can do this to make the image smaller.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 14, 2014, 09:08:03 am
i love protips
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 14, 2014, 10:32:09 am
i love protips

So you would say that you're proprotip?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 14, 2014, 10:39:40 am
i love protips

So you would say that you're proprotip?

That's an ugly word though. Guess that makes me antiproprotip?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on April 14, 2014, 10:41:17 am
i love protips

So you would say that you're proprotip?

That's an ugly word though. Guess that makes me antiproprotip?

I sure am proantiproprotip.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 14, 2014, 11:09:20 am
Here's an antitip for the proantitip people: you can do this to make an image larger.

(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 14, 2014, 11:35:52 am
i love protips

So you would say that you're proprotip?

That's an ugly word though. Guess that makes me antiproprotip?

I sure am proantiproprotip.

I find your lack of hyphens disturbing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 14, 2014, 11:37:01 am
i love protips

So you would say that you're proprotip?

That's an ugly word though. Guess that makes me antiproprotip?

I sure am proantiproprotip.

I find your lack of hyphens disturbing.

prohyphen
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 14, 2014, 11:56:44 am
i love protips

So you would say that you're proprotip?

That's an ugly word though. Guess that makes me antiproprotip?

I sure am proantiproprotip.

I find your lack of hyp-hens disturbing.

Better?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 14, 2014, 12:39:49 pm
Dominion is currently losing to 7 Wonders on the BGG Geek Madness. Personally I think both are fantastic games, but I prefer Dominion, so... anyone want to throw it a thumb from here?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/172235/item/3173590#item3173590
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on April 14, 2014, 01:55:29 pm
Dominion is currently losing to 7 Wonders on the BGG Geek Madness. Personally I think both are fantastic games, but I prefer Dominion, so... anyone want to throw it a thumb from here?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/172235/item/3173590#item3173590

It looks like Dominion already lost to Agricola, no?  :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 14, 2014, 02:31:13 pm
Dominion is currently losing to 7 Wonders on the BGG Geek Madness. Personally I think both are fantastic games, but I prefer Dominion, so... anyone want to throw it a thumb from here?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/172235/item/3173590#item3173590

It looks like Dominion already lost to Agricola, no?  :o

Yes, it did. It's in the 3rd place playoff now. My personal order for the top 4 is almost the opposite of the way it's looking like it might end (Dominion, 7 Wonders, Netrunner, Agricola) but you know, whatever, all four are games I enjoy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 14, 2014, 11:44:24 pm
Lunar eclipse tonight: http://www.iflscience.com/space/total-lunar-eclipse-tetrad-begins-april-15
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 14, 2014, 11:47:16 pm
Lunar eclipse tonight: http://www.iflscience.com/space/total-lunar-eclipse-tetrad-begins-april-15

Meanwhile here it went from sunny and 70... to clouds and snow.  No eclipse for me. :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 15, 2014, 12:24:01 am
There's a live stream in the link I posted though it's not the same.

It's not happening in a place I can see from my balcony and I'm way too exhausted to find a place to hang out till the wee hours of the morning so I might watch the stream.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 15, 2014, 12:22:59 pm
I'm on my way to a bill Bryson talk about science at the Royal Society.
Quite excited
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 15, 2014, 03:43:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJRw4DZowhU
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 15, 2014, 08:46:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfA_L_zfqiU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_vV-JRZ6E
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 15, 2014, 09:23:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfA_L_zfqiU

Pretty sure I saw some hentai very similar to the scene at 0:12.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 15, 2014, 09:29:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QgJUL.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 16, 2014, 05:44:31 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/e9d2eaaa8ff68b37042cde2647524abf/tumblr_n3sajxDiYG1qdlh1io1_400.gif)

Edit:
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/9f79d8aa6b8cf5b9298f188dcef2e070/tumblr_inline_mwndhgw1hX1rp3j1q.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 16, 2014, 08:24:23 pm
so many veggie dogs
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 16, 2014, 10:11:07 pm
Did I kill the random thread?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 16, 2014, 10:11:42 pm
http://blog.fooducate.com/2012/07/04/hot-dogs-10-weird-facts/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 16, 2014, 10:14:51 pm
http://blog.fooducate.com/2012/07/04/hot-dogs-10-weird-facts/

Fact 2 lists all these condiments but still omits relish.  :(

I think we should move the conversation away from hot dogs now.  We are veering dangerously towards non-randomness.

Edit:

Here is a mug.

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/95569dddd246538ee05e711488bcd93d/tumblr_n2bddeHC2A1qb5gkjo9_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 16, 2014, 10:17:30 pm
My weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNpTOoQjD0o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 16, 2014, 10:19:29 pm
Edit:

Here is a mug.

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/95569dddd246538ee05e711488bcd93d/tumblr_n2bddeHC2A1qb5gkjo9_500.jpg)

Looks like a donut to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 16, 2014, 10:23:35 pm
My weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNpTOoQjD0o

Ace of Spades
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on April 16, 2014, 10:25:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoBELyv9cgk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 16, 2014, 10:25:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L86T6o8lZc
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 16, 2014, 10:36:34 pm
Ace of Spades
Yep! And Slash came out for it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 16, 2014, 11:15:40 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjbPszSt5Pc
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on April 17, 2014, 02:04:16 am
Haven't that one been posted in this thread before?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on April 17, 2014, 02:31:51 am
Yes (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg356463;topicseen#msg356463)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 17, 2014, 02:35:42 am
True randomness doesn't take past results into account.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 17, 2014, 08:43:59 am
Heh, I got an infraction on another forum for using the phrase, "beer and skittles."

I'm all for moderation where needed (especially in a video game forum with a bunch of kids), but getting an infraction for "beer and skittles"? I had much rolling of eyes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 17, 2014, 08:46:35 am
Heh, I got an infraction on another forum for using the phrase, "beer and skittles."

I'm all for moderation where needed (especially in a video game forum with a bunch of kids), but getting an infraction for "beer and skittles"? I had much rolling of eyes.

Is there some other meaning that I'm missing?  Like the vegan family who was denied the license plate "I [heart] TOFU"

Edit:  Ah, apparently it is an old idiom.  And here I thought that the candy company invented the word skittles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 17, 2014, 09:05:44 am
Is there some other meaning that I'm missing?  Like the vegan family who was denied the license plate "I [heart] TOFU"

Like an animal?

I also do modern idioms.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 17, 2014, 09:12:00 am
?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 17, 2014, 09:18:47 am
In the first Adventure Time episode when Billy is introduced, he kicks off his theme song by shouting "Nothung!", the name of his sword, a reference to Wagnerian opera.

...except until now, I had thought he was saying "No tongue", as in, ok ladies you can smooch me, but keep it civil.

So...glad to have cleared that up. I guess.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 17, 2014, 03:06:17 pm
Rolled 1d100 : 70, total 70
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 17, 2014, 03:08:58 pm
Going way back to definitions of e, my favorite is lim(x->∞) (1 + 1/x)^x = e  (I have no idea how you are supposed to write limits in horizontal form :P)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 17, 2014, 03:10:53 pm
Going way back to definitions of e, my favorite is lim(x->∞) (1 + 1/x)^x = e  (I have no idea how you are supposed to write limits in horizontal form :P)

LaTeX~

\lim_{x -> \infty} (1+1/x)^x = e

(or \rightarrow instead of ->)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 17, 2014, 03:18:41 pm
True randomness doesn't take past results into account.

That would be Markovian.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 17, 2014, 03:19:38 pm
(I have no idea how you are supposed to write limits in horizontal form :P)

It's easy:

 l
 i
m
 i
 t
 s




dangit
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 17, 2014, 03:45:32 pm
Haven't that one been posted in this thread before?

Haha, whoooops.  I remembered seeing it on Tumblr and forgot that it was posted here too.  Oh well.  True randomness doesn't take past results into account.

Also, hey, what did you guys think of the series finale of HIMYM?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on April 17, 2014, 04:05:02 pm
Also, hey, what did you guys think of the series finale of HIMYM?

Gee, thanks, now I won't be able to keep reading this thread for fear of spoilers :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 17, 2014, 04:07:55 pm
Also, hey, what did you guys think of the series finale of HIMYM?

Gee, thanks, now I won't be able to keep reading this thread for fear of spoilers :P

People usually use the spoiler tag in cases like this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on April 17, 2014, 04:49:07 pm
Also, hey, what did you guys think of the series finale of HIMYM?

Gee, thanks, now I won't be able to keep reading this thread for fear of spoilers :P

People usually use the spoiler tag in cases like this.

Eh, NOW they will (hopefully). I don't want to learn that their mother was the dog with the shifty eyes all along.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on April 17, 2014, 04:59:32 pm
I thought it was great. It ended with the yellow umbrella scene right ? ;)

Seriously though, it was surprisingly good until You-Know-What. And even that doesn't bother me too much because it had been predicted a long time ago and had become obvious two episodes before the end, so whatever. In my mind, the last two scenes didn't happen and I'm just fine with that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on April 17, 2014, 05:00:19 pm
My smiley wasn't included in the [ spoiler ] ? Great, now I've ruined HIMYM forever for pacovf. Sorry :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 17, 2014, 05:02:45 pm
Spoiler tags also don't work if you put color tags inside
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 17, 2014, 05:05:03 pm
Spoiler tags also don't work if you put color tags inside

Dude, you just spoiled spoiler tags.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on April 17, 2014, 05:06:39 pm
My smiley wasn't included in the [ spoiler ] ? Great, now I've ruined HIMYM forever for pacovf. Sorry :(

Years of watching that show, eagerly collecting every tiny bit of evidence to discover who the mother could be in expectation of the grand reveal. All that buildup, gone in a tenth of a second because of a smiley face on a thread that wasn't even related to HIMYM, despite my expressed petition not to get the finale revealed to me within minutes of the threat materialising.

All thanks to you, Teproc.

Partypooper.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 17, 2014, 05:57:54 pm
Hey, haven't we discussed the HIMYM finale in this thread before?

Yes. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg362158#msg362158)

By the way, I think that Tsunami Bomb - Take The Reigns would make a great song for Guitar Hero even though I've never heard it and I haven't played Guitar Hero in many years. :D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on April 17, 2014, 06:14:01 pm
Spoiler tags also don't work if you put color tags inside

Dude, you just spoiled spoiler tags.
Yo dawg, I heard you like spoilers, so I spoiled spoilers and...


somebody help me out here, I know there's a meme in it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 17, 2014, 06:23:11 pm
Just been to see 2001 at cinema, man that's a dull film with flashes of excellence
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 17, 2014, 06:24:05 pm
Spoiler tags also don't work if you put color tags inside

Dude, you just spoiled spoiler tags.
Yo dawg, I heard you like spoilers, so I spoiled spoilers and...


somebody help me out here, I know there's a meme in it.

Does it involve a cat? I've heard you get more upvotes if you include a cat!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 17, 2014, 06:27:10 pm
it works extra well for black
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 17, 2014, 10:29:28 pm
Apparently, gorillas are much less intimidating when they stand up.

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/be426fe31704bb8e608040ce4bd7c3ee/tumblr_n47a1y42o01qdlh1io1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 17, 2014, 10:35:54 pm
Apparently, gorillas are much less intimidating when they stand up.

That made me laugh. Teehee.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 17, 2014, 11:15:00 pm
Mathematics and physics: teaching you the Greek alphabet without you even realizing it.

Seriously, I read an equation somewhere for the first time and recognized all three or four Greek letters in it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 17, 2014, 11:30:19 pm
Dude I can never draw zetas and xis right. My thermo exams looked like a 4-year-old wrote them
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on April 17, 2014, 11:49:39 pm
Dude I can never draw zetas and xis right. My thermo exams looked like a 4-year-old wrote them

I had one math professor who would always write one Greek letter as just a bunch of random squiggles, I could never figure out what letter it was supposed to be so whenever I needed to write it on my homework I always just tried to copy his squiggle patterns.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 17, 2014, 11:57:43 pm
http://www.donaldguy.com/Flappy-Doge2048/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on April 18, 2014, 12:33:36 am
http://spikedmath.com/498.html (http://spikedmath.com/498.html)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on April 18, 2014, 03:30:40 am
Dude I can never draw zetas and xis right. My thermo exams looked like a 4-year-old wrote them
My personal favourite was something like capital Xi over Xi with an overbar. Written quickly, it's just 8 horizontal lines of random length.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 18, 2014, 03:47:06 am
I once had a sadistic examiner who set partial differential equations in the variables xi and eta.  The very first line of my answer was "Let X = xi and Y = eta."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on April 18, 2014, 03:49:22 am
Dude I can never draw zetas and xis right. My thermo exams looked like a 4-year-old wrote them

I had one math professor who would always write one Greek letter as just a bunch of random squiggles, I could never figure out what letter it was supposed to be so whenever I needed to write it on my homework I always just tried to copy his squiggle patterns.

That has to be lower-case xi. Most of my teachers through college have written that letter as a spring of random length (or as an open loop of random winding number n should you close it, where n € [|2,5|], for the more maths-inclined).

I once had a sadistic examiner who set partial differential equations in the variables xi and eta.  The very first line of my answer was "Let X = xi and Y = eta."

I wish I could upvote this more than once.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 18, 2014, 06:40:41 am
Mathematics and physics: teaching you the Greek alphabet without you even realizing it.

Seriously, I read an equation somewhere for the first time and recognized all three or four Greek letters in it.

I always have students drawing lambdas backwards or calling the rhos and omegas p and w.  Maybe I should begin my classes with a primer on the Greek alphabet.  I'm not sure if I've ever needed Hebrew in my classes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 18, 2014, 07:12:34 am
Going way back to definitions of e, my favorite is lim(x->∞) (1 + 1/x)^x = e  (I have no idea how you are supposed to write limits in horizontal form :P)

LaTeX~

\lim_{x -> \infty} (1+1/x)^x = e

(or \rightarrow instead of ->).....use \to
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 18, 2014, 07:27:18 am
Going way back to definitions of e, my favorite is lim(x->∞) (1 + 1/x)^x = e  (I have no idea how you are supposed to write limits in horizontal form :P)

I write them the same way you did, since it is more legible than TeX.

As a minor nitpick, I would say e = lim(n->∞)(1+1/n)^n.  The reason is because the variable n is implicitly assumed to be a whole number, while x is implicitly assumed to be an arbitrary real number.  While both statements are true, defining irrational powers is a bit subtle.  In fact, one common approach is to first define exp(x) and ln(x) without reference to irrational exponents, and then define a^x = exp(x ln(a)).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 18, 2014, 08:35:41 am
Going way back to definitions of e, my favorite is lim(x->∞) (1 + 1/x)^x = e  (I have no idea how you are supposed to write limits in horizontal form :P)

I write them the same way you did, since it is more legible than TeX.

As a minor nitpick, I would say e = lim(n->∞)(1+1/n)^n.  The reason is because the variable n is implicitly assumed to be a whole number, while x is implicitly assumed to be an arbitrary real number.  While both statements are true, defining irrational powers is a bit subtle.  In fact, one common approach is to first define exp(x) and ln(x) without reference to irrational exponents, and then define a^x = exp(x ln(a)).

...

OK, so that's how the log of log scale works on my slide rule!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on April 18, 2014, 02:01:35 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5i-dCv7O8o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 18, 2014, 02:28:55 pm
I've become such a Sean Carroll fanboy lately.  This public lecture that he gave on the Higgs boson and the future of experimental physics last year is amazing.  The half hour of questions from the audience at the end is better than usual too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEKSpZPByD0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 18, 2014, 03:01:45 pm
Heh, I got an infraction on another forum for using the phrase, "beer and skittles."

I'm all for moderation where needed (especially in a video game forum with a bunch of kids), but getting an infraction for "beer and skittles"? I had much rolling of eyes.

Is there some other meaning that I'm missing?  Like the vegan family who was denied the license plate "I [heart] TOFU"

Edit:  Ah, apparently it is an old idiom.  And here I thought that the candy company invented the word skittles.

I get that TOFU is the beginning of a phrase.  But skittles?  Wikipedia has nothing naughty on it.  Can someone explain the joke, thereby making it funnier?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 18, 2014, 03:12:15 pm
Heh, I got an infraction on another forum for using the phrase, "beer and skittles."

I'm all for moderation where needed (especially in a video game forum with a bunch of kids), but getting an infraction for "beer and skittles"? I had much rolling of eyes.

Is there some other meaning that I'm missing?  Like the vegan family who was denied the license plate "I [heart] TOFU"

Edit:  Ah, apparently it is an old idiom.  And here I thought that the candy company invented the word skittles.

I get that TOFU is the beginning of a phrase.  But skittles?  Wikipedia has nothing naughty on it.  Can someone explain the joke, thereby making it funnier?
"beer and skittles" is a phrase that roughly means "fun and games".  Skittles is a game similar to bowling. Skittles doesn't mean anything naughty, the fact that Kuildeous mentioned the word beer in a forum with a bunch of underage people despite the context used is what got him the infraction, hence why it's so ridiculous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 18, 2014, 03:51:39 pm
Heh, I got an infraction on another forum for using the phrase, "beer and skittles."

I'm all for moderation where needed (especially in a video game forum with a bunch of kids), but getting an infraction for "beer and skittles"? I had much rolling of eyes.

Is there some other meaning that I'm missing?  Like the vegan family who was denied the license plate "I [heart] TOFU"

Edit:  Ah, apparently it is an old idiom.  And here I thought that the candy company invented the word skittles.

I get that TOFU is the beginning of a phrase.  But skittles?  Wikipedia has nothing naughty on it.  Can someone explain the joke, thereby making it funnier?
"beer and skittles" is a phrase that roughly means "fun and games".  Skittles is a game similar to bowling. Skittles doesn't mean anything naughty, the fact that Kuildeous mentioned the word beer in a forum with a bunch of underage people despite the context used is what got him the infraction, hence why it's so ridiculous.

Well, you know, no underage people have ever heard of beer or alcohol.  We wouldn't want to expose them to that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 18, 2014, 07:59:44 pm
Wait..... Al-co-hol?
What is this?
I must go and find some!

I'll be back shortly...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 18, 2014, 08:01:47 pm
Why do people still labor under the impression that "all of the above" makes for a good selection in multiple-choice questions?

In one question bank, I have 42 questions where "all of the above" is an option. In 36 of them, that is actually the correct answer. So there are 36 questions that are easier to guess than the others.

Multiple response questions are a much better indicator of knowledge retention. Sure, you still have the issue of computerized testing instead of someone evaluating your answers, but it's less likely to be guessed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on April 18, 2014, 10:49:47 pm
Why do people still labor under the impression that "all of the above" makes for a good selection in multiple-choice questions?

In one question bank, I have 42 questions where "all of the above" is an option. In 36 of them, that is actually the correct answer. So there are 36 questions that are easier to guess than the others.

Multiple response questions are a much better indicator of knowledge retention. Sure, you still have the issue of computerized testing instead of someone evaluating your answers, but it's less likely to be guessed.

Nonono don't tell them, how will I pass all my tests then!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 19, 2014, 05:15:08 am
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/74151000/jpg/_74151933_82.jpg) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26969150)

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 19, 2014, 09:45:40 am
Why do people still labor under the impression that "all of the above" makes for a good selection in multiple-choice questions?

In one question bank, I have 42 questions where "all of the above" is an option. In 36 of them, that is actually the correct answer. So there are 36 questions that are easier to guess than the others.

Multiple response questions are a much better indicator of knowledge retention. Sure, you still have the issue of computerized testing instead of someone evaluating your answers, but it's less likely to be guessed.

I often put in a section with "For these questions, between zero and four of the choices are correct.  Choose all answers that are correct; if none are correct, write 'none'."

This sort of question must be graded as if it were n true/false questions, where n is the number of choices.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 19, 2014, 10:33:03 am
Why do people still labor under the impression that "all of the above" makes for a good selection in multiple-choice questions?

In one question bank, I have 42 questions where "all of the above" is an option. In 36 of them, that is actually the correct answer. So there are 36 questions that are easier to guess than the others.

Multiple response questions are a much better indicator of knowledge retention. Sure, you still have the issue of computerized testing instead of someone evaluating your answers, but it's less likely to be guessed.

I often put in a section with "For these questions, between zero and four of the choices are correct.  Choose all answers that are correct; if none are correct, write 'none'."

This sort of question must be graded as if it were n true/false questions, where n is the number of choices.
I once had a final exam that had multiple correct choices for its multiple choice questions, but because it was being corrected by an old scantron, you either got full marks or no marks on the question. Missing just one of the correct answers or being incorrect about an option being true led to a mark of zero on that question. Combined with the topic of the exam being the professional code, the exam was absolutely brutal.

I got about 68% percent on that exam. The highest mark on the exam was about 75%, and I was in the top six on it. That course was bell curved like you wouldn't believe (average is made to be a C).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 19, 2014, 10:53:47 am
Being homeschooled, I have to take a test every to make sure I'm still learning.  It's multiple choice, but I like in the math section they have four answers, then another one that is "none of these".  It rarely is the answer, but you still have to check to make sure.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 19, 2014, 12:00:33 pm
Being homeschooled, I have to take a test every to make sure I'm still learning.  It's multiple choice, but I like in the math section they have four answers, then another one that is "none of these".  It rarely is the answer, but you still have to check to make sure.

You're gonna love the SAT. No "none of these" option means that oftentimes you can eliminate all but one of the answers before you've actually figured out the solution. Test-taking strategies ftw!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 19, 2014, 12:33:15 pm
Being homeschooled, I have to take a test every to make sure I'm still learning.  It's multiple choice, but I like in the math section they have four answers, then another one that is "none of these".  It rarely is the answer, but you still have to check to make sure.

You're gonna love the SAT. No "none of these" option means that oftentimes you can eliminate all but one of the answers before you've actually figured out the solution. Test-taking strategies ftw!

When I was studying for the physics GRE I was able to "solve" a very large number of the multiple choice problems even for topics I'd never learned, just by considering symmetries or limiting cases.  At the time it felt like a sham, but in retrospect that is one of the more important skills the exam measured.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 19, 2014, 01:33:52 pm
Being homeschooled, I have to take a test every to make sure I'm still learning.  It's multiple choice, but I like in the math section they have four answers, then another one that is "none of these".  It rarely is the answer, but you still have to check to make sure.

You're gonna love the SAT. No "none of these" option means that oftentimes you can eliminate all but one of the answers before you've actually figured out the solution. Test-taking strategies ftw!

When I was studying for the physics GRE I was able to "solve" a very large number of the multiple choice problems even for topics I'd never learned, just by considering symmetries or limiting cases.  At the time it felt like a sham, but in retrospect that is one of the more important skills the exam measured.

Measuring reasoning skills (which apply themselves as test-taking skills and shortcuts) is one of the most important features of standardized testing, imo. A lot of people complain that the material on the SAT, for example, does not match up with what students are being taught. While this is a legitimate concern and can introduce bias in some cases, I think the far more important point that those people overlook is that measuring specific knowledge is not really the goal; rather, the SAT measures the effective use of basic concepts and reasoning to come to the "most correct" answer.

Of course, you can get tutors and what-have-you to help you with test-taking strategies, but a lot of what they help you with (from my understanding) is basic reasoning and wrong answer elimination, which are actually important skills beyond standardized tests.

Also, did everyone hear that they're redesigning the SAT (https://www.collegeboard.org/delivering-opportunity/sat/redesign) for 2016?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Robz888 on April 19, 2014, 04:29:00 pm
Being homeschooled, I have to take a test every to make sure I'm still learning.  It's multiple choice, but I like in the math section they have four answers, then another one that is "none of these".  It rarely is the answer, but you still have to check to make sure.

You're gonna love the SAT. No "none of these" option means that oftentimes you can eliminate all but one of the answers before you've actually figured out the solution. Test-taking strategies ftw!

When I was studying for the physics GRE I was able to "solve" a very large number of the multiple choice problems even for topics I'd never learned, just by considering symmetries or limiting cases.  At the time it felt like a sham, but in retrospect that is one of the more important skills the exam measured.

Measuring reasoning skills (which apply themselves as test-taking skills and shortcuts) is one of the most important features of standardized testing, imo. A lot of people complain that the material on the SAT, for example, does not match up with what students are being taught. While this is a legitimate concern and can introduce bias in some cases, I think the far more important point that those people overlook is that measuring specific knowledge is not really the goal; rather, the SAT measures the effective use of basic concepts and reasoning to come to the "most correct" answer.

Of course, you can get tutors and what-have-you to help you with test-taking strategies, but a lot of what they help you with (from my understanding) is basic reasoning and wrong answer elimination, which are actually important skills beyond standardized tests.

Also, did everyone hear that they're redesigning the SAT (https://www.collegeboard.org/delivering-opportunity/sat/redesign) for 2016?

Yeah, they are redesigning it to fall in line with Common Core, the new national education curriculum standards. Common Core, though, is extremely controversial, and the more people learn about it, the less they like it, and I'm not confident it's actually going to ever be fully implemented nationwide (because people hate it so much).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: dondon151 on April 19, 2014, 05:01:11 pm
I'm not entirely aware why Common Core is controversial, aside from it being an easy target that conservatives can pick on to skewer Obama.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 19, 2014, 05:15:11 pm
I'm not entirely aware why Common Core is controversial, aside from it being an easy target that conservatives can pick on to skewer Obama.

Yeah, it is mostly controversial among the right-wing fringe.  It is difficult to determine when there is a legitimate policy disagreement versus when it is pure political posturing and obstructionism.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 19, 2014, 05:19:37 pm
I'm not entirely aware why Common Core is controversial, aside from it being an easy target that conservatives can pick on to skewer Obama.

...despite the fact that the whole program was set up by the National Governors Association, and the federal government hasn't really touched it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 19, 2014, 05:32:06 pm
But hey, back on the topic random stuff.

http://labs.minutelabs.io/Brownian-Motion/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 19, 2014, 08:13:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nc00CtM7jA
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on April 20, 2014, 11:28:41 am
Latex is strange:
Code: [Select]
X \wedge Y produces the smash product of X and Y.
If you want the wedge sum, you need to do
Code: [Select]
X \vee Y
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 20, 2014, 11:32:55 am
Latex is strange:
Code: [Select]
X \wedge Y produces the smash product of X and Y.
If you want the wedge sum, you need to do
Code: [Select]
X \vee Y

Speaking of math symbols, I am grading a stack of exams at the moment and really wish my students would write lower case t with the little serif at the bottom.  Also, cross their z.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on April 20, 2014, 11:37:21 am
I think I usually substituted t with something else because I couldn't distinguish it from +.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 20, 2014, 11:39:29 am
I think I usually substituted t with something else because I couldn't distinguish it from +.

Well these functions of time.  Harmonic oscillators and Laplace transforms and such.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 20, 2014, 11:42:04 am
My t and + are easy to distinguish from each other.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/distinguishing.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 20, 2014, 12:23:10 pm
That's why I drop the "+" sign entirely and only use a Plus(x,y) function.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 20, 2014, 12:29:11 pm
That's why I drop the "+" sign entirely and only use a Plus(x,y) function.

log(exp(x)exp(y))
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on April 20, 2014, 12:45:05 pm
I actually had to check wether the bachelor thesis I'm writing even contains a + sign. (But of course it has quite a lot of them)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 20, 2014, 01:21:34 pm
Latex is strange:
Code: [Select]
X \wedge Y produces the smash product of X and Y.
If you want the wedge sum, you need to do
Code: [Select]
X \vee Y

Speaking of math symbols, I am grading a stack of exams at the moment and really wish my students would write lower case t with the little serif at the bottom.  Also, cross their z.

I always serif my t... But I think crossing the z is a non-US thing.  I know a few who do it but not many.  However it's easy to make the 2 obviously different.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 20, 2014, 01:26:11 pm
Latex is strange:
Code: [Select]
X \wedge Y produces the smash product of X and Y.
If you want the wedge sum, you need to do
Code: [Select]
X \vee Y

Speaking of math symbols, I am grading a stack of exams at the moment and really wish my students would write lower case t with the little serif at the bottom.  Also, cross their z.

I always serif my t... But I think crossing the z is a non-US thing.  I know a few who do it but not many.  However it's easy to make the 2 obviously different.

Mathematicians and physicists don't all agree on whether to call it zed or zee, but we all cross them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on April 20, 2014, 01:31:47 pm
I made the decision to cross my "z"s and serif my "t"s in, I think, 8th grade math (I'd been crossing my "7"s for a while already at that point).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 21, 2014, 01:01:50 am
I made the decision to cross my "z"s and serif my "t"s in, I think, 8th grade math (I'd been crossing my "7"s for a while already at that point).

I can't remember whether I started crossing by z's and 7's in Jr. or Sr. High, but I started both at the same time.  If I use t or x as variables in an equation, I write them differently than my regular letters.  I curve the stem for t and my x is written as two curves that touch rather than two lines that cross.  I do similar things with some other letters too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 21, 2014, 02:09:33 am
I started crossing my z's when I wasted an hour thinking it was a 2. I don't serif my t's though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 21, 2014, 06:16:56 am
Latex is strange:
Code: [Select]
X \wedge Y produces the smash product of X and Y.
If you want the wedge sum, you need to do
Code: [Select]
X \vee Y

Speaking of math symbols, I am grading a stack of exams at the moment and really wish my students would write lower case t with the little serif at the bottom.  Also, cross their z.
Arrrrggg.  I feel you.  I have plenty of students who write their x's without crossing them.  It ends up looking like )(.  This is fine in some cases.  But during an exam, students apparently rush a bit.  And it starts to look like )  (.  Now we have wonderful statements like.
The roots of )  (()  (^2 - 4)  () are... 
Well I no longer care what they are, because I want to gauge my eyes out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 21, 2014, 07:14:05 am
Well I no longer care what they are, because I want to gauge my eyes out.

That does help you to focus if they end up with too many degrees of freedom.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 21, 2014, 08:49:07 am
The way I scribble my formulas, you'd be grateful to see that I cross my zeds. And I add a curve to the bottom of my Ts.

When you say you add a serif to T, is it just a sharp line so that it looks like a curved T only with an angle instead of a curve? I could see that, though I was imagining someone writing a lower-case T and adding little decorations to it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 21, 2014, 08:59:27 am
By serif, I mean that little bend at the bottom.  Exactly like in the lower case t you see in the font you are reading right now.

Edit: After looking around on the web, it seems that the little hook isn't considered a serif.  Anyone know what it is called?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WanderingWinder on April 21, 2014, 09:03:26 am
By serif, I mean that little bend at the bottom.  Exactly like in the lower case t you see in the font you are reading right now.
Definitely don't necessarily have a serifed font on your browser....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 21, 2014, 09:12:10 am
By serif, I mean that little bend at the bottom.  Exactly like in the lower case t you see in the font you are reading right now.

Edit: After looking around on the web, it seems that the little hook isn't considered a serif.  Anyone know what it is called?

Apparently it is a "spur."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 21, 2014, 01:15:59 pm
I don't add a whatever-it-is to t, but I make sure the cross is higher than on +.  My z and 2 are different enough.  I might write x differently than most, here is my x (when written as a variable) vs. my x (when written as multiplying, although I don't do that too often):

_  _
 \/   \/
_/\_  /\


If you can't tell from the amazing ASCII art, I do the strokes in the same order for both them, but I make my variable x with things on the edges.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 21, 2014, 01:49:46 pm
In order to distinguish my x from a multiplication sign, I just use a dot.

(And vectors have an arrow, so don't say anything about cross-products.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 21, 2014, 02:42:22 pm
Last night's episode of Cosmos is by far the best one yet.  I highly recommend it.  It's on hulu.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 21, 2014, 04:07:24 pm
I cross my Sevens. Picked up the habit when transposing several thousand alphanumeric serial numbers by hand. I cross my Zees when I see fit to do so but crossing my Sevens is automatic today.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 21, 2014, 04:17:58 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 21, 2014, 04:19:16 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

By saying that, you just crossed me, so now you're a liar.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on April 21, 2014, 04:21:58 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

By saying that, you just crossed me, so now you're a liar.
Are you still crossed?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 21, 2014, 04:22:16 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 21, 2014, 04:25:24 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 21, 2014, 04:28:26 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

He is German: Zis is zee pie.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 21, 2014, 04:28:57 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

That's, right, Z.  Stick that in your function and iterate it.  You chaotic monster!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 21, 2014, 04:31:13 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

That's, right, Z.  Stick that in your function and iterate it.  You chaotic monster!

Mandelbrot Pie!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 21, 2014, 04:34:08 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

That's, right, Z.  Stick that in your function and iterate it.  You chaotic monster!
Zee or Zed?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 21, 2014, 04:39:23 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

That's, right, Z.  Stick that in your function and iterate it.  You chaotic monster!
Zee or Zed?

It's obviously Zeta.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 21, 2014, 04:53:12 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

That's, right, Z.  Stick that in your function and iterate it.  You chaotic monster!
Zee or Zed?
Tset.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Cuzz on April 21, 2014, 05:15:58 pm
I started crossing z's when I first learned complex analysis. To do otherwise is madness.

I know a professor who even requires it from students in a section of his syllabus. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 21, 2014, 06:55:18 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

That's, right, Z.  Stick that in your function and iterate it.  You chaotic monster!
Zee or Zed?
Tset.

(http://boourns.dynu.net/pics/490-stop-that-this-thread-is-getting-very-silly.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 21, 2014, 06:57:29 pm
I cross nothing. Let chaos reign!!

But then your quantum mechanics is ambiguous by a factor of 2pi  :'(

Zpi? You're not making any sense, Peebles.

That's, right, Z.  Stick that in your function and iterate it.  You chaotic monster!
Zee or Zed?
Tset.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Tsetsemeyers1880.jpg/220px-Tsetsemeyers1880.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 21, 2014, 08:29:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfHeWTKjag

Some interesting stuff about shady Facebook practices.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 22, 2014, 02:59:44 am
I can recommend most of what Veritasium does.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 22, 2014, 05:34:20 am
I decided on a whim to play an Osu song that I always failed within 10 seconds, and somehow cleared the entire rest of the song blind.

It's so nice to realize I'm actually getting better at this game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: dondon151 on April 22, 2014, 05:54:00 am
I always write my z's in cursive...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on April 22, 2014, 06:57:51 am
I draw my x's in two strokes. First a / then cross it with a \. Z's uncrossed. 7's crossed. 1's without serifs. I also write in capital letters only, so no curves at the bottom of my t's. And I don't like math. At all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 22, 2014, 10:25:16 am
I write in print, no cursive. My cursive is illegible. My print is very good though never straight at the bottom. My print used to be illegible and I only wrote in cursive until I went to engineering school.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 10:28:08 am
I write in print, no cursive. My cursive is illegible. My print is very good though never straight at the bottom. My print used to be illegible and I only wrote in cursive until I went to engineering school.

I have yet to find a reason for cursive.  Except maybe to make your signature more unique?  But even so, signatures aren't really cursive, rather any style of writing you happen to come up with, though usually based on cursive in some way.  I think they just ran out of stuff to teach us in school.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 22, 2014, 11:45:24 am
http://www.newamericancursive.com/learncursive
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 11:48:33 am
http://www.newamericancursive.com/learncursive

#2 reason to use cursive is to increase your ability to read cursive :/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 22, 2014, 11:51:29 am
http://www.newamericancursive.com/learncursive

I think #1 also applies to printing. #2 is kind of begging the question. Citation needed for most of the rest. And 6 and 8 kind of conflict.

And 7 seems false to me. It says that cursive is easier to read, but then many teachers actively ban cursive on assignments.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 22, 2014, 12:00:11 pm
Citation needed for most of the rest.

It clearly says the reasons are well documented. I'm not sure what more you could be asking for...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 12:03:46 pm
Citation needed for most of the rest.

It clearly says the reasons are well documented. I'm not sure what more you could be asking for...

It didn't say it in cursive, though, so I had trouble reading it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 22, 2014, 12:57:14 pm
One of the reasons I have heard is that young people won't have the ability to read old documents and letters written in cursive.  To which the obvious reply is that any of those documents that are actually important have been digitized.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 22, 2014, 01:04:44 pm
New American cursive looks harder than when I learned cursive in school... I mean, they made capital T and F and Z easier, but really they're just print...

I use cursive when I'm writing letters (yeah, I still do that.  LDR) because I think it works nice in that format.  But that's about it. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 01:34:23 pm
New American cursive looks harder than when I learned cursive in school... I mean, they made capital T and F and Z easier, but really they're just print...

I use cursive when I'm writing letters (yeah, I still do that.  LDR) because I think it works nice in that format.  But that's about it.

Could you use cursive to reply in that Mafia game?!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 22, 2014, 01:45:53 pm
I actually use a weird print-cursive hybrid when I write.  It's more legible than any cursive I know and much faster to write.  My signature might as well just be scribbles though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 22, 2014, 02:34:36 pm
I actually use a weird print-cursive hybrid when I write.  It's more legible than any cursive I know and much faster to write.  My signature might as well just be scribbles though.

My mom writes like that too.


Also, darn you all, I got self-conscious on my science test today and started writing my t differently...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 02:36:07 pm
I actually use a weird print-cursive hybrid when I write.  It's more legible than any cursive I know and much faster to write.  My signature might as well just be scribbles though.

I write in a random mix of uppercase and lowercase print, whichever is easier for my hand/brain at the time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 22, 2014, 02:36:13 pm
I learned cursive in elementary school. Once I got the hang of it, life was great. Legible handwriting was never my strong point, but at least with cursive I could easily tell where one word ended and another started. With print writing, you had to find spaces that were slightly larger than the spaces between letters. Lame.

In recent years, print-writing has corrupted my autopilot. I swear I've caught myself switching from cursive to print or vice-versa mid sentence. Luckily, pretty much the only time I'm handwriting is when taking personal notes in class. There is a major shift towards digitization.

Interestingly enough, in Canada they want to stop teaching cursive. Here's a starter link that I couldn't be bothered to read more than a paragraph of:
http://www.todaysparent.com/family/education/cursive-writing-in-schools/ (http://www.todaysparent.com/family/education/cursive-writing-in-schools/)

You know what else they tried teaching in my elementary school? How to type without looking at the keyboard, index fingers on F and J style. Never got the hang of that. I type so much faster when I look at the keyboard and type freestyle, mostly with my index fingers.

Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 02:38:50 pm
I learned cursive in elementary school. Once I got the hang of it, life was great. Legible handwriting was never my strong point, but at least with cursive I could easily tell where one word ended and another started. With print writing, you had to find spaces that were slightly larger than the spaces between letters. Lame.

In recent years, print-writing has corrupted my autopilot. I swear I've caught myself switching from cursive to print or vice-versa mid sentence. Luckily, pretty much the only time I'm handwriting is when taking personal notes in class. There is a major shift towards digitization.

Interestingly enough, in Canada they want to stop teaching cursive. Here's a starter link that I couldn't be bothered to read more than a paragraph of:
http://www.todaysparent.com/family/education/cursive-writing-in-schools/ (http://www.todaysparent.com/family/education/cursive-writing-in-schools/)

You know what else they tried teaching in my elementary school? How to type without looking at the keyboard, index fingers on F and J style. Never got the hang of that. I type so much faster when I look at the keyboard and type freestyle, mostly with my index fingers.

Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?

Yes, exclusively.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 22, 2014, 02:39:11 pm
Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?

Ooh!  Me!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on April 22, 2014, 02:41:49 pm
Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?

I type without looking at the keyboard, with only two fingers (and 60 words per minute)!  I think I usually have to look at the keyboard for the first letter in a sentence/paragraph though.  (And actually, I use other fingers for things like shift.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 22, 2014, 02:48:20 pm
I look at the keyboard for number symbols I rarely use (eg #,$,%,^,&) but other than that I type without looking.

Thanks Mario Teaches Typing!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 22, 2014, 02:48:52 pm
Typing while looking at the keyboard just feels so clunky to me.  Touch typing is much faster.  Thanks to muscle memory, my fingers move faster than my eyes could follow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 22, 2014, 02:51:56 pm
I rearranged my keyboard to be slightly off what it should be to foil any keyboard lookers that try to use it:

qwertyiupo
adsfhgjlk
xzbcvmn
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 22, 2014, 02:54:49 pm
Typing while looking at the keyboard just feels so clunky to me.  Touch typing is much faster.  Thanks to muscle memory, my fingers move faster than my eyes could follow.

I hybrid type. I probably look for about 50% of the typing I do. I have no training I have just been using a keyboard so long that I really just kind of point my eyeballs at it and touch type. I often realize I am typing while looking at the screen and suddenly start making mistakes where I was not before. I cannot consciously touch type. My eyes do not identify each key press but definitely keep spatial orientation though I am definitely not looking at each letter pressed. Oh, yeah, I type about 110 wpm with occasional errors and around 80 wpm with zero errors. I can use a number pad entirely without looking, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 22, 2014, 02:57:31 pm
I often print my capital letters while using cursive for the rest.

Also, mathematicians and physicists sometimes explicitly use cursive for the names of certain variables.  It is usually called "script".  For instance, the Lagrangian density is denoted by script L.  In cosmology, Pensrose diagrams are used to draw the spacetime geometry of black holes, and along the boundary you have "future light-like infinity" and "past light-like infinity" which are denoted script I+ and script I-.  In fact, in conversation they pronounce script I as the abbreviated "scry".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 22, 2014, 02:58:07 pm
So, does anyone look at the mouse when they are clicking it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 02:59:22 pm
I often print my capital letters while using cursive for the rest.

Also, mathematicians and physicists sometimes explicitly use cursive for the names of certain variables.  It is usually called "script".  For instance, the Lagrangian density is denoted by script L.  In cosmology, Pensrose diagrams are used to draw the spacetime geometry of black holes, and along the boundary you have "future light-like infinity" and "past light-like infinity" which are denoted script I+ and script I-.  In fact, in conversation they pronounce script I as the abbreviated "scry".

Cursive?  I always wrote my Fourier transform operator as "that weird looking capital F with some extra squiggles thingies". 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 22, 2014, 03:02:01 pm
Typing while looking at the keyboard just feels so clunky to me.  Touch typing is much faster.  Thanks to muscle memory, my fingers move faster than my eyes could follow.

I hybrid type. I probably look for about 50% of the typing I do. I have no training I have just been using a keyboard so long that I really just kind of point my eyeballs at it and touch type. I often realize I am typing while looking at the screen and suddenly start making mistakes where I was not before. I cannot consciously touch type. My eyes do not identify each key press but definitely keep spatial orientation though I am definitely not looking at each letter pressed. Oh, yeah, I type about 110 wpm with occasional errors and around 80 wpm with zero errors. I can use a number pad entirely without looking, though.

I just did a random typing test from the first hit on Google (http://www.typingtest.com/).  I got 95 wpm with 1 error, 94 wpm adjusted.  Second attempt, 104 wpm with 1 error.  Third try, 101 wpm with no errors.  I did make an effort to keep my eye out for errors and to backspace and correct them, which significantly impacts the overall wpm.  I would do better typing my own thoughts (so I don't need to move my eyes between the reference and my actual output).

I know some people can type really fast via hybrid touch typing and "hunt and peck", but it blows my mind.

I learned touch typing in Jr. High.  Had a lot of trouble at first, but now it's second nature.  Number pad was easier, but I'm not sure how well I can use it now.  I usually don't need to use the numpad so I am out of practice (and there isn't really a numpad on my laptop).

Edit: Oh, and there was no particular training.  The teacher just said, "try this" and had us practice, mostly by having us type things while our hands were covered by a sheet of paper.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 22, 2014, 03:06:10 pm
So, does anyone look at the mouse when they are clicking it?
Sometimes :(

(Only when I use the mouse of one of the animators in the office. That thing is ridiculous.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 22, 2014, 03:33:44 pm
Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?

I type without looking at sthe scroeen and correcting my mistakes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 22, 2014, 03:51:33 pm
Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?
Yes. I have to look at the keyboard for the print screen key, but pretty much everything else I do without looking at it. I look at the MIDI keyboard when I'm using that, though.

I just did a random typing test from the first hit on Google (http://www.typingtest.com/).  I got 95 wpm with 1 error, 94 wpm adjusted.  Second attempt, 104 wpm with 1 error.  Third try, 101 wpm with no errors.
I'm getting something between 105 and 110 from this test with 1-4 errors every time. It would be nice if I didn't have to read a text while typing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 22, 2014, 04:10:00 pm
2048 hard mode

http://sztupy.github.io/2048-Hard/

strategy discussion from the numberphile guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO4tA5i7X9g&src_vid=TXys0aHASFE&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_118767247
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on April 22, 2014, 04:13:36 pm
Isn't typing without looking at the keyboard the definition of touch typing? Anybody who types in any kind of professional capacity owes it to themselves to learn touch typing. OK, sure, maybe you can type fast while looking at the keyboard sometimes. I guarantee you that if you spend the time to learn touch typing, you will type faster.

Also, "improved neural connections in the brain" is a terrible reason to learn anything. Creating neural connections in the brain is more-or-less what learning is. That reason is essentially just saying "learn this because learning is good". True, but learning anything else would work as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 22, 2014, 04:30:13 pm
I rearranged my keyboard to be slightly off what it should be to foil any keyboard lookers that try to use it:

qwertyiupo
adsfhgjlk
xzbcvmn
Ach, my muscle memory!

I can sorta type without looking at the keyboard, mostly with my index fingers to boot, but it seems suboptimal for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 22, 2014, 04:33:18 pm
Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?

I type without looking at sthe scroeen and correcting my mistakes.
I correct half my mistakes without having to look at the screen though. Sometimes, you just know that what you just typed was wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 22, 2014, 04:37:19 pm
Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?

I type without looking at sthe scroeen and correcting my mistakes.
I correct half my mistakes without having to look at the screen though. Sometimes, you just know that what you just typed was wrong.

Yeah, I know what you mean. When I made that post I was intentionally just typing faster than I actually can, so when I didn't know which button to press next I just pressed something and let it stick.

Also, 75 WPM adjusted to 73 WPM. I don't touch type, but I can at least type at a pace which is reasonably fast. I think also two of the errors in there were kinda unfair, I put a full stop at the end of a sentence that didn't have one, but ehh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 22, 2014, 04:55:52 pm
Are you supposed to write the integral symbol from bottom to top or top to bottom?  This has been bugging me for ages (more specifically, since my first time writing it, like a week or two ago).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 22, 2014, 04:59:32 pm
Are you supposed to write the integral symbol from bottom to top or top to bottom?  This has been bugging me for ages (more specifically, since my first time writing it, like a week or two ago).

I always write it from top to bottom.  Just like an "S".  I mean.. it is an "S".. for sum.  Writing from bottom to top feels like writing backwards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 22, 2014, 05:02:18 pm
http://www.crazygames.com/game/2584-fibonacci

Had to find it after it was mentioned in the video.  This is so confusing though.  Very easy to accidentally combine the nth number with the (n-1)th instead of the (n+1)th.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 22, 2014, 05:02:34 pm
I always go top to bottom.  Like an S, as Witherweaver says.

I always write it from top to bottom.  Just like an "S".  I mean.. it is an "S".. for sum.  Writing from bottom to top feels like writing backwards.

Yeah, bottom to top would be like, S for subtraction.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 22, 2014, 05:37:22 pm
I always go top to bottom

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 22, 2014, 06:16:08 pm
Robz reads here right?

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/23oy9t/some_guy_hides_zelda_treasures_in_the_woods/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 22, 2014, 07:21:33 pm
Typing while looking at the keyboard just feels so clunky to me.  Touch typing is much faster.  Thanks to muscle memory, my fingers move faster than my eyes could follow.

I hybrid type. I probably look for about 50% of the typing I do. I have no training I have just been using a keyboard so long that I really just kind of point my eyeballs at it and touch type. I often realize I am typing while looking at the screen and suddenly start making mistakes where I was not before. I cannot consciously touch type. My eyes do not identify each key press but definitely keep spatial orientation though I am definitely not looking at each letter pressed. Oh, yeah, I type about 110 wpm with occasional errors and around 80 wpm with zero errors. I can use a number pad entirely without looking, though.
This is basically me too
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 22, 2014, 07:36:44 pm
I rearranged my keyboard to be slightly off what it should be to foil any keyboard lookers that try to use it:

qwertyiupo
adsfhgjlk
xzbcvmn

Some of my friends use Dvorak without rearranging the keys  Luckily, if I never need to type on their keyboards, I know how to switch it back to qwerty. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 22, 2014, 07:42:29 pm
I always go top to bottom


 :-[

I haven't felt so dirty since the time my grandma told me my rubbers were too dirty for her carpet, so I had to come in the rear of the house.  But I suppose you'll find a way to take that out of context too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 22, 2014, 09:00:20 pm
I felt my dirty context
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 22, 2014, 09:55:51 pm
Switch the f key with the g key and the k key with the j key for guaranteed barrels of pain.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 22, 2014, 09:58:51 pm
Switch the f key with the g key and the k key with the j key for guaranteed barrels of pain.
I want it to be subtle enough that people won't notice.  Plus if I switch out the J or F anywhere else then I would have trouble typing since I can't find the home row as easily.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 22, 2014, 10:58:38 pm
Switch the f key with the g key and the k key with the j key for guaranteed barrels of pain.
I want it to be subtle enough that people won't notice.  Plus if I switch out the J or F anywhere else then I would have trouble typing since I can't find the home row as easily.
I thought the point was to foil touch typers. Messing with the keys you use to find it is a great way to do that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 22, 2014, 11:22:02 pm
Switch the f key with the g key and the k key with the j key for guaranteed barrels of pain.
I want it to be subtle enough that people won't notice.  Plus if I switch out the J or F anywhere else then I would have trouble typing since I can't find the home row as easily.
I thought the point was to foil touch typers. Messing with the keys you use to find it is a great way to do that.


Apple touch types. He switches the physical keys, which are still mapped to their usual output. The swapped keysdon't bother him because he doesn't need correct labels.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 23, 2014, 01:35:53 am
Switch the f key with the g key and the k key with the j key for guaranteed barrels of pain.
I want it to be subtle enough that people won't notice.  Plus if I switch out the J or F anywhere else then I would have trouble typing since I can't find the home row as easily.
I thought the point was to foil touch typers. Messing with the keys you use to find it is a great way to do that.


Apple touch types. He switches the physical keys, which are still mapped to their usual output. The swapped keysdon't bother him because he doesn't need correct labels.
Yeah this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 23, 2014, 02:36:52 am
Autocorrect on phone made your name Apple.  OK. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 23, 2014, 02:52:32 am
Autocorrect on phone made your name Apple.  OK. :P
I fortunately do not keep the doctor away.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on April 23, 2014, 03:06:32 am
2048 hard mode

http://sztupy.github.io/2048-Hard/

strategy discussion from the numberphile guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO4tA5i7X9g&src_vid=TXys0aHASFE&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_118767247

Haven't watched the video but is that James Grime in the preview screen? Completely irrelevant and off-topic (which makes it on-topic), but he was my lecturer before he got a job at Cambridge and became famous. One of the best guys I've ever known.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 23, 2014, 03:22:20 am
Haven't watched the video but is that James Grime in the preview screen? Completely irrelevant and off-topic (which makes it on-topic), but he was my lecturer before he got a job at Cambridge and became famous. One of the best guys I've ever known.

7 seconds in says yes. 

And (slightly later) he does seem to be a pretty cool guy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on April 23, 2014, 03:38:39 am
Touch typing all the way! There's this huge advantage to it. You don't have to look at the keyboard. Usually that means looking at the screen and catching typos. But that's not always the case. Sometimes you want to type something that you have written down somewhere else. Or you can simply look out the window or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 23, 2014, 07:15:37 am
I often print my capital letters while using cursive for the rest.

Also, mathematicians and physicists sometimes explicitly use cursive for the names of certain variables.  It is usually called "script".  For instance, the Lagrangian density is denoted by script L. 
Oh indeed.  I would never ever ever use the variable 'l'.  Always use \ell (cursive l)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 23, 2014, 07:25:13 am
Are you supposed to write the integral symbol from bottom to top or top to bottom?  This has been bugging me for ages (more specifically, since my first time writing it, like a week or two ago).
As a math instructor, the method of writing is irrelevant, as long as you integrate correctly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 23, 2014, 07:38:33 am
I look at the keyboard for number symbols I rarely use (eg #,$,%,^,&) but other than that I type without looking.

Thanks Mario Teaches Typing!
That game was awesome
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 23, 2014, 08:20:28 am
Are you supposed to write the integral symbol from bottom to top or top to bottom?  This has been bugging me for ages (more specifically, since my first time writing it, like a week or two ago).
As a math instructor, the method of writing is irrelevant, as long as you integrate correctly.

While this is technically true, it is frustrating when you don't know how to efficiently write these symbols.  I remember there was a day in graduate school when I decided that I needed to sit down and learn how to draw an asterisk, *.  There have been other letters, especially gothic ones, where my inability to decipher the symbols hindered my ability to recall statements or communicate clearly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on April 23, 2014, 01:17:24 pm
(I think of how most people use Excel (or Photoshop) as like sitting in a Lamborghini and listening to the radio.)

Heh, fitting enough analogy.

Back when it was important for me at the time, I got myself certified as a Microsoft Office User Specialist for Word and Excel. I got the advanced certification, and I was shocked at how little of Excel the advanced test covered. Sure, it handled things like formatting, charts, and pivot tables, but it didn't even touch on VLOOKUP, which is probably my favorite formula (I'm sure SUMPRODUCT would be my favorite, but for some reason I don't always see that as a solution). I think it covered SUM and that was it.

VLOOKUP and SUMIF I think are the two most key functions in terms of power multiplied by usefulness.  If you forced me to choose, I guess VLOOKUP is more essential than SUMIF, but I use SUMIF basically all the time.
SUMIF is great.  And VLOOKUP.  But frankly, most situations now where I could use VLOOKUP it's quick just to make a workaround, though when I was doing actuarial work, that was definitely not the case.  SUMIF is crucial.

Come for the board game strategy, stay for the Excel function rankings.

I want to talk about how happy I am about the new Google Spreadsheets.  Adding in COUNTIFS, SUMIFS, and AVERAGEIF(S) makes me so happy.  I am happy.  Complicated functions that used to involve lots of "COUNTA(FILTER(loremipsum))" is now simple and intuitive and happy. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 23, 2014, 01:19:37 pm
(I think of how most people use Excel (or Photoshop) as like sitting in a Lamborghini and listening to the radio.)

Heh, fitting enough analogy.

Back when it was important for me at the time, I got myself certified as a Microsoft Office User Specialist for Word and Excel. I got the advanced certification, and I was shocked at how little of Excel the advanced test covered. Sure, it handled things like formatting, charts, and pivot tables, but it didn't even touch on VLOOKUP, which is probably my favorite formula (I'm sure SUMPRODUCT would be my favorite, but for some reason I don't always see that as a solution). I think it covered SUM and that was it.

VLOOKUP and SUMIF I think are the two most key functions in terms of power multiplied by usefulness.  If you forced me to choose, I guess VLOOKUP is more essential than SUMIF, but I use SUMIF basically all the time.
SUMIF is great.  And VLOOKUP.  But frankly, most situations now where I could use VLOOKUP it's quick just to make a workaround, though when I was doing actuarial work, that was definitely not the case.  SUMIF is crucial.

Come for the board game strategy, stay for the Excel function rankings.

I want to talk about how happy I am about the new Google Spreadsheets.  Adding in COUNTIFS, SUMIFS, and AVERAGEIF(S) makes me so happy.  I am happy.  Complicated functions that used to involve lots of "COUNTA(FILTER(loremipsum))" is now simple and intuitive and happy.

Are you talking about the ones available on Drive?  I find it convenient, but I couldn't figure out how to do surface plots.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Cuzz on April 23, 2014, 01:48:39 pm
http://www.crazygames.com/game/2584-fibonacci

Had to find it after it was mentioned in the video.  This is so confusing though.  Very easy to accidentally combine the nth number with the (n-1)th instead of the (n+1)th.

Ooh, I kinda like this one, though I'm not totally convinced it's harder, since for any tile there are two possible other types you can combine it with. I wish it let you play on like 2048 does.

(http://i.picresize.com/images/2014/04/23/fAO4n.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 23, 2014, 02:15:05 pm
http://www.crazygames.com/game/2584-fibonacci

Had to find it after it was mentioned in the video.  This is so confusing though.  Very easy to accidentally combine the nth number with the (n-1)th instead of the (n+1)th.

Ooh, I kinda like this one, though I'm not totally convinced it's harder, since for any tile there are two possible other types you can combine it with. I wish it let you play on like 2048 does.

(http://i.picresize.com/images/2014/04/23/fAO4n.jpg)
I thought it was easier. I tried it once yesterday, I was tired and not really paying a lot of attention to the game and I beat my 2048 high score.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 23, 2014, 05:08:35 pm
Not if this is old, but this dictionary of internet/text laughing strings is quite apt:

(http://i.imgur.com/2oXepqs.jpg)

Found it at http://imgur.com/gallery/eaZgT (http://imgur.com/gallery/eaZgT).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on April 23, 2014, 05:59:50 pm
ha!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on April 23, 2014, 06:12:53 pm
haha
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on April 23, 2014, 06:18:34 pm
HAHA

I wrote this using the above nomenclature, but I maintain that any version of lol/haha/whatever written in caps should be taken to mean the writer is mentally ill.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 23, 2014, 06:19:34 pm
hahahahahahahaahahaha ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 23, 2014, 06:22:31 pm
http://www.crazygames.com/game/2584-fibonacci

Had to find it after it was mentioned in the video.  This is so confusing though.  Very easy to accidentally combine the nth number with the (n-1)th instead of the (n+1)th.

Ooh, I kinda like this one, though I'm not totally convinced it's harder, since for any tile there are two possible other types you can combine it with. I wish it let you play on like 2048 does.

(snip image)
I thought it was easier. I tried it once yesterday, I was tired and not really paying a lot of attention to the game and I beat my 2048 high score.

OK, just finished it.  I definitely feel that 2048 is easier.  2548 has far more steps so the game is so much longer.  Also came close to getting filled up with a bunch of tiles that were all the same.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 23, 2014, 06:55:18 pm
The golden ratio is less than two, so the game will certainly be longer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 24, 2014, 04:44:24 am
HAHA

I wrote this using the above nomenclature, but I maintain that any version of lol/haha/whatever written in caps should be taken to mean the writer is mentally ill.

HaHaHaHa
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on April 24, 2014, 05:58:39 am
Another 2048

http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/

edit: but that's not that hard, got 5 iron_56
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on April 24, 2014, 11:17:03 am
http://www.crazygames.com/game/2584-fibonacci

Had to find it after it was mentioned in the video.  This is so confusing though.  Very easy to accidentally combine the nth number with the (n-1)th instead of the (n+1)th.

Ooh, I kinda like this one, though I'm not totally convinced it's harder, since for any tile there are two possible other types you can combine it with. I wish it let you play on like 2048 does.

(snip image)
I thought it was easier. I tried it once yesterday, I was tired and not really paying a lot of attention to the game and I beat my 2048 high score.

OK, just finished it.  I definitely feel that 2048 is easier.  2548 has far more steps so the game is so much longer.  Also came close to getting filled up with a bunch of tiles that were all the same.
I think in principle Fibonaccis is easier than exponentials.  This game here is longer because it starts with 1s and not with 2s as default tile, so you really have to join the 2584 tiles to get to the 2584, while for 2048 you only need 1024 tiles.  You have to be a bit more careful, as tiles might more easily join unexpected compared to 2048, but the fact that you can correct errors from both sides, and especially can free trapped spots behind a Fib_n block by only going to Fib_{n-1} helps a lot.

Also note that you need much less space on the board to snake your way up to Fib_n, as Fib_{n-1}, Fib_{n-3}, Fib_{n-5}, ... , Fib_{n-2i}, Fib_{n-2i-1} connect to Fib_n.  While this not always works out perfectly, for large n it almost automatically does as you don't build too large blocks by accident.  As ((1+sqrt(5))/2)^2 > 2, this would also mean that you need less space to get to higher numbers.

Only thing why this looks harder/longer is that you starts with 2s in 2048 for whatever reason instead of 1s.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 24, 2014, 02:29:41 pm
Another 2048

http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/

edit: but that's not that hard, got 5 iron_56

I didn't see the chart below and didn't remember my nuclear chemistry well enough, so I kept getting stuck at Magnesium.  But yeah, once you manage to line up two Oxygens for Silicon, the rest of the game is trivial.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 24, 2014, 03:48:48 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/e72248c3ae0e201575ebf6d70f08a0c7/tumblr_n4ie9osggp1qkpnlko1_250.gif)

http://flappy2048.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on April 24, 2014, 04:57:18 pm
Another 2048

http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/

edit: but that's not that hard, got 5 iron_56

I didn't see the chart below and didn't remember my nuclear chemistry well enough, so I kept getting stuck at Magnesium.  But yeah, once you manage to line up two Oxygens for Silicon, the rest of the game is trivial.

Damn it Beryllium-7, who invited you?

That's the first 2048-alike I've completed.  I feel I learnt something.  Did I learn true things?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 24, 2014, 05:22:21 pm
Another 2048

http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/

edit: but that's not that hard, got 5 iron_56

I didn't see the chart below and didn't remember my nuclear chemistry well enough, so I kept getting stuck at Magnesium.  But yeah, once you manage to line up two Oxygens for Silicon, the rest of the game is trivial.

Damn it Beryllium-7, who invited you?

That's the first 2048-alike I've completed.  I feel I learnt something.  Did I learn true things?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_burning_process

Seems pretty accurate.  I think the main problem is that the radioactive decays should produce a He-4 as well, but I can see why that was ignored.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 24, 2014, 05:28:14 pm
Ah, so this explains why stars naturally evolve into enormous balls of magnesium over the course of their lifetime. Nature is so beautiful.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 24, 2014, 05:30:45 pm
Ah, so this explains why stars naturally evolve into enormous balls of magnesium over the course of their lifetime. Nature is so beautiful.

O Mg
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on April 24, 2014, 08:10:09 pm
I got 4 Iron 56s in one game, compare to in 2048 where that would be a 8192 tile, while I haven't come remotely close to doing. I like how in this game you can't just mash the arrow keys and do well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 24, 2014, 08:33:55 pm
I got 4 Iron 56s in one game, compare to in 2048 where that would be a 8192 tile, while I haven't come remotely close to doing. I like how in this game you can't just mash the arrow keys and do well.

But that's what the stars do!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on April 24, 2014, 08:35:27 pm
the stars have lots of space!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 24, 2014, 09:31:50 pm
Another 2048

http://newbrict.github.io/Fe26/

edit: but that's not that hard, got 5 iron_56

I didn't see the chart below and didn't remember my nuclear chemistry well enough, so I kept getting stuck at Magnesium.  But yeah, once you manage to line up two Oxygens for Silicon, the rest of the game is trivial.

Damn it Beryllium-7, who invited you?

That's the first 2048-alike I've completed.  I feel I learnt something.  Did I learn true things?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_burning_process

Seems pretty accurate.  I think the main problem is that the radioactive decays should produce a He-4 as well, but I can see why that was ignored.

Eh, it's not nearly as accurate as I would like.  Magnesium is not some sort of stoppage point in the process, Mg + alpha will fuse to Si.  And all of the by-products are left out.  Ugh!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 25, 2014, 12:37:11 am
That Parks and Rec ending.  :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on April 25, 2014, 03:25:06 am
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/e72248c3ae0e201575ebf6d70f08a0c7/tumblr_n4ie9osggp1qkpnlko1_250.gif)

http://flappy2048.com/
65536.

That's the highest tile of all these 2048 variants...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on April 25, 2014, 04:53:06 am
In this variant it's quite doable to get into the millions, once you know how the new feature works: http://sbeyer.github.io/2048/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 25, 2014, 05:22:58 am
Alright, so I've posted Demetori/Touhou music before, but I have to do it again. I'm pretty sure I'm in love with every song in this album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_5F8XgjvE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 25, 2014, 07:58:18 am
I have exactly 2048 2049 respect now!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 25, 2014, 07:58:51 am
What're you talking about?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 25, 2014, 08:06:25 am
What're you talking about?
It was a typo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 25, 2014, 08:40:42 am
Does anyone here type without looking at the keyboard?

I type without looking at sthe scroeen and correcting my mistakes.
I correct half my mistakes without having to look at the screen though. Sometimes, you just know that what you just typed was wrong.

Yeah, I know what you mean. When I made that post I was intentionally just typing faster than I actually can, so when I didn't know which button to press next I just pressed something and let it stick.

Also, 75 WPM adjusted to 73 WPM. I don't touch type, but I can at least type at a pace which is reasonably fast. I think also two of the errors in there were kinda unfair, I put a full stop at the end of a sentence that didn't have one, but ehh.
Huh? Oh, there were typos in your post. Didn't notice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 25, 2014, 08:47:09 am
Recently, I noticed that when I pour hot water into my tea cup, the water level quickly drops a bit. At first, I thought maybe the tea bag was absorbing the water, but why that would make the height of the water in the cup draw was beyond me. But then, I noticed that the height of the hot water still dropped even when there was no tea bag.

What I was witnessing must have been the water decreasing in volume as it quickly cooled and contracted once in the cup. Go material science! Or does material science only care about solids? Whatever, that's the domain of physics it reminded me of.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 25, 2014, 09:11:10 am
Recently, I noticed that when I pour hot water into my tea cup, the water level quickly drops a bit. At first, I thought maybe the tea bag was absorbing the water, but why that would make the height of the water in the cup draw was beyond me. But then, I noticed that the height of the hot water still dropped even when there was no tea bag.

What I was witnessing must have been the water decreasing in volume as it quickly cooled and contracted once in the cup. Go material science! Or does material science only care about solids? Whatever, that's the domain of physics it reminded me of.
That's why you should warm the cup before pouring the final hot water into it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 25, 2014, 09:13:46 am
Recently, I noticed that when I pour hot water into my tea cup, the water level quickly drops a bit. At first, I thought maybe the tea bag was absorbing the water, but why that would make the height of the water in the cup draw was beyond me. But then, I noticed that the height of the hot water still dropped even when there was no tea bag.

What I was witnessing must have been the water decreasing in volume as it quickly cooled and contracted once in the cup. Go material science! Or does material science only care about solids? Whatever, that's the domain of physics it reminded me of.
Are you sure it wasn't the cup expanding due to heat?  That seems much more likely to me.  Water is essentially incompressible...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 25, 2014, 09:14:53 am
Also, Materials science is mostly solids.  And in the class I took, mostly metals.  Specifically steel.  But then again, this was a materials science class for mechanical engineers...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 25, 2014, 09:19:37 am
There's a variant of 2048 that uses Ryan Gossling images instead of numbers.

Just thought I'd throw that out there. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 25, 2014, 10:05:36 am
Recently, I noticed that when I pour hot water into my tea cup, the water level quickly drops a bit. At first, I thought maybe the tea bag was absorbing the water, but why that would make the height of the water in the cup draw was beyond me. But then, I noticed that the height of the hot water still dropped even when there was no tea bag.

What I was witnessing must have been the water decreasing in volume as it quickly cooled and contracted once in the cup. Go material science! Or does material science only care about solids? Whatever, that's the domain of physics it reminded me of.
Are you sure it wasn't the cup expanding due to heat?  That seems much more likely to me.  Water is essentially incompressible...

Water may be incompressible, but it, like a solid, still changes volume as temperature changes.  Back of the envelope calculation says that 250 mL of boiling water will lose about 6 mL of volume in dropping to 60 °C.  The volumetric expansion of a ceramic is in the range of 30 ppm/K, or about 0.1% going from 20 °C to 60 °C.  So the cup expands by ~0.25 mL.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 25, 2014, 10:12:39 am
Recently, I noticed that when I pour hot water into my tea cup, the water level quickly drops a bit. At first, I thought maybe the tea bag was absorbing the water, but why that would make the height of the water in the cup draw was beyond me. But then, I noticed that the height of the hot water still dropped even when there was no tea bag.

What I was witnessing must have been the water decreasing in volume as it quickly cooled and contracted once in the cup. Go material science! Or does material science only care about solids? Whatever, that's the domain of physics it reminded me of.
Are you sure it wasn't the cup expanding due to heat?  That seems much more likely to me.  Water is essentially incompressible...

Water may be incompressible, but it, like a solid, still changes volume as temperature changes.  Back of the envelope calculation says that 250 mL of boiling water will lose about 6 mL of volume in dropping to 60 °C.  The volumetric expansion of a ceramic is in the range of 30 ppm/K, or about 0.1% going from 20 °C to 60 °C.  So the cup expands by ~0.25 mL.
Ah right right... My bad.  How about glass?  My tea cup is made of glass.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 25, 2014, 10:27:08 am
Would evaporation be negligible here?  I would imagine hot water evaporates faster than cool water, but there probably isn't enough time for that to be significant.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 25, 2014, 03:53:31 pm
It's me drinking it with a secret straw...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 25, 2014, 03:55:12 pm
It's me drinking it with a secret straw...
So you're the famous straw man who always appears in the arguments of the people who I disagree with! I should have known it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 25, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Did you guys consider:

(http://images.junkee.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/shia-labeouf-magic-gif.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 25, 2014, 05:40:44 pm
It's me drinking it with a secret straw...
So you're the famous straw man who always appears in the arguments of the people who I disagree with! I should have known it!

If that's me though I would have claimed it earlier, and if I had claimed it earlier we wouldn't have this discussion.

So therefore it cannot be me
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 25, 2014, 07:28:09 pm
I'm not sure what the intersection is between people who like complexity theory and people who play Dominion, but this is pretty good if you're in that intersection.

http://corner.mimuw.edu.pl/?p=354
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 25, 2014, 07:30:42 pm
I'm not sure what the intersection is between people who like complexity theory and people who play Dominion, but this is pretty good if you're in that intersection.

http://corner.mimuw.edu.pl/?p=354

Win
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 27, 2014, 03:27:11 pm
The legend was true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au4rDoyiaQ8#t=20
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 27, 2014, 03:29:14 pm
What're you talking about?
It was a typo.

No, it wasn't, I +1'd you immediately. I had planned, once you noticed, to then go back and un-upvote posts so you were back at 2047 as well. Sadly the moment seems to have passed, and the joke went unnoticed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 27, 2014, 03:39:42 pm
What're you talking about?
It was a typo.

No, it wasn't, I +1'd you immediately. I had planned, once you noticed, to then go back and un-upvote posts so you were back at 2047 as well. Sadly the moment seems to have passed, and the joke went unnoticed.
My plan was to get exactly 2048 respect, post about it, get someone +1 that just to make the statement untrue, edit the post and claim that it was a typo, and gain enough +1s by writing other posts to hide the fact that the +1 I received from that post was my 2049th +1. That way I could earn a free +1 and nobody would notice anything suspicious! Muahahahaha!

Yes, getting exactly 2048 respect just when 2048 was being talked about in this topic was also a part of my plan.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on April 27, 2014, 03:57:20 pm
Every time I open this thread, and only this thread, the second newest post is where I start, and I always have to scroll up to read the post above it, which is always new to me.

Is this some sort of long-con joke too?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 27, 2014, 03:58:35 pm
Every time I open this thread, and only this thread, the second newest post is where I start, and I always have to scroll up to read the post above it, which is always new to me.

Is this some sort of long-con joke too?

That's been happening to me too recently...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 27, 2014, 06:20:54 pm
Really?

In other news, came joint first in the pub quiz out of 30 teams today, lost on a tie breaker to our biggest quiz rivals, absolutely gutted, felt like coming last rather than second
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 27, 2014, 06:21:07 pm
Really?

In other news, came joint first in the pub quiz out of 30 teams today, lost on a tie breaker to our biggest quiz rivals, absolutely gutted, felt like coming last rather than second
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 27, 2014, 06:59:26 pm
Yeah, it happens to me to. I was feeling like I kept missing messages in this thread.

Okay so I double posted then removed one of the posts. What happens to people's newest messages now?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 27, 2014, 08:32:04 pm
Ozle's second post was the one it brought me to.  I smell a conspiracy Theory.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on April 27, 2014, 08:40:09 pm
conspiracy Theory.

(http://i.imgur.com/H6IYBps.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 27, 2014, 08:44:13 pm
conspiracy Theory.

(http://i.imgur.com/H6IYBps.jpg)

You win the internet for today.  Congratulations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 28, 2014, 01:16:42 am
AHHHH I HAVE CODE TO WRITE AND THE DEADLINE IS IN < 2 HOURS.

THAT IS ALL I'M DISTRACTED AND NEED TO WRITE SOMETHING to convince myself that i'm done being distracted.

Carry on
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 28, 2014, 02:37:58 am
but, that's the best way to write code...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 28, 2014, 02:42:00 am
but, that's the best goko's way to write code...

Fixed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on April 28, 2014, 03:07:38 am
The code does what I wanted it to do, but is missing many features that would make it actually good :(

Ah well, I should learn that my estimates for how long things take are always much lower than they should be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 28, 2014, 03:18:37 am
Every time I open this thread, and only this thread, the second newest post is where I start, and I always have to scroll up to read the post above it, which is always new to me.

Is this some sort of long-con joke too?
Yeah, this is happening to me, and also, if I click a link to a last post on a page (if it was quoted in another post, for example), it gives me the next page instead.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 28, 2014, 07:47:54 am
Watching John Oliver's new show makes me miss the laughter of a studio audience.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 28, 2014, 11:28:56 am
Watching John Oliver's new show makes me miss the laughter of a studio audience.

Is it any good? He just hosts with various stand-up comics doing their act, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 28, 2014, 06:21:41 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/d74e5ad22d023461a821f662ee7671eb/tumblr_n4lhglqOkA1rgh6uho1_500.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 28, 2014, 06:24:02 pm
bahaha will.je.suis.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on April 28, 2014, 06:35:02 pm
That is hilarious. I'm assume this is from a Québecois TV show ? They are just insane.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 28, 2014, 06:51:43 pm
That is hilarious. I'm assume this is from a Québecois TV show ? They are just insane.

I actually don't know.  It's just something I came across which I thought was worth sharing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on April 28, 2014, 07:15:13 pm
Speaking of guillarme.je.suis, apparently he likes bubble baths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdFkLpxH0Y0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 28, 2014, 07:34:03 pm
Recently my computer's been having a really odd problem. Three times today, my network connection has suddenly disappeared and left me being told there are no networks in range. Now that's pretty odd because at any given time there are typically around 4-6 networks in range I can detect, not least the wireless one in the hallway about 10 meters from me. And no matter what I do with network detection, my laptop can't seem to find anything, not even my own router even after restarting it - which makes me fairly sure this is a problem with the laptop and not the router.

The other strange thing is that I seem to be able to fix this issue by putting the computer into sleep mode and waking it up immediately, after which it's able to detect networks again. But that still means I can't do many things I'd want to online, like streaming, talking to people or playing Dominion, since a dropped connection means everything is gonna go. So I'd like to actually fix this. The problem is I have no idea what might be causing it. A quick search online didn't really reveal anything useful (mostly it's dumb things like 'have you checked your router is turned on, have you restarted it, have you turned your laptop on and off?' which obviously I have tried). Any of you guys got an idea what the issue might be? I'm kinda stumped on this one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 29, 2014, 12:43:45 am
I'm usually the last person to say, "This needs a remake," but hear me out…

Next year, there needs to be a movie or series of movies about a plucky teen whose best friend is a mad scientist. This scientist steals plutonium from the North Koreans to power a time machine in a Prius. During the firefight, the plucky teen accidentally gets 88 mpg and pilots the time machine to 1985 where he inadvertently stops his parents from falling in love, so he has to go to the Who Ya Gonna Call dance so his mother and father can finally meet, though his father needs persuasion from a ghostly image shown on an iPhone. The teen's musical aptitude is put to the test when he has to fill in after an injury befalls the keytar player.

I call it: Back to the Electric Boogaloo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 29, 2014, 12:48:11 am
I'm usually the last person to say, "This needs a remake," but hear me out…

Next year, there needs to be a movie or series of movies about a plucky teen whose best friend is a mad scientist. This scientist steals plutonium from the North Koreans to power a time machine in a Prius. During the firefight, the plucky teen accidentally gets 88 mpg and pilots the time machine to 1985 where he inadvertently stops his parents from falling in love, so he has to go to the Who Ya Gonna Call dance so his mother and father can finally meet, though his father needs persuasion from a ghostly image shown on an iPhone. The teen's musical aptitude is put to the test when he has to fill in after an injury befalls the keytar player.

I call it: Back to the Electric Boogaloo.

Then, in the sequel, he goes to 2045, where they still don't have flying cars.

Also, I would love to have a car that gets 88 mpg.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Cuzz on April 29, 2014, 01:11:22 am
I'm usually the last person to say, "This needs a remake," but hear me out…

Next year, there needs to be a movie or series of movies about a plucky teen whose best friend is a mad scientist. This scientist steals plutonium from the North Koreans to power a time machine in a Prius. During the firefight, the plucky teen accidentally gets 88 mpg and pilots the time machine to 1985 where he inadvertently stops his parents from falling in love, so he has to go to the Who Ya Gonna Call dance so his mother and father can finally meet, though his father needs persuasion from a ghostly image shown on an iPhone. The teen's musical aptitude is put to the test when he has to fill in after an injury befalls the keytar player.

I call it: Back to the Electric Boogaloo.

And then he blows their collective minds by prematurely introducing them to Jay-Z, performing a cover of (1.21) Jigga What, Jigga Who.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 29, 2014, 09:45:46 am
Recently, I noticed that when I pour hot water into my tea cup, the water level quickly drops a bit. At first, I thought maybe the tea bag was absorbing the water, but why that would make the height of the water in the cup draw was beyond me. But then, I noticed that the height of the hot water still dropped even when there was no tea bag.

What I was witnessing must have been the water decreasing in volume as it quickly cooled and contracted once in the cup. Go material science! Or does material science only care about solids? Whatever, that's the domain of physics it reminded me of.
Are you sure it wasn't the cup expanding due to heat?  That seems much more likely to me.  Water is essentially incompressible...

Water may be incompressible, but it, like a solid, still changes volume as temperature changes.  Back of the envelope calculation says that 250 mL of boiling water will lose about 6 mL of volume in dropping to 60 °C.  The volumetric expansion of a ceramic is in the range of 30 ppm/K, or about 0.1% going from 20 °C to 60 °C.  So the cup expands by ~0.25 mL.
Going back to this again:
I just realized I see this happen in my cup too, but I don't think it's due to any expansion/contraction.  I use loose-leaf tea and the infuser I have sits on top of my cup and covers the whole cup so the only way air can escape is through the holes in the infuser.  What I have found is that surface tension keeps water in the infuser higher than the level of the water in the cup, until the pressure head is too high and whoosh, the level in the infuser equalizes with the level of the water in the cup, giving it the appearance of losing volume as you pour and look from the top.  Well, at least I'm pretty sure that's what's happening in my cup...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on April 29, 2014, 10:37:39 am
Also, I would love to have a car that gets 88 mpg.

If you are willing to get flexible with the word "car" and consider 84 mpg in the same league as 88 mpg then maybe: http://www.eliomotors.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 29, 2014, 12:30:29 pm
Recently, I noticed that when I pour hot water into my tea cup, the water level quickly drops a bit. At first, I thought maybe the tea bag was absorbing the water, but why that would make the height of the water in the cup draw was beyond me. But then, I noticed that the height of the hot water still dropped even when there was no tea bag.

What I was witnessing must have been the water decreasing in volume as it quickly cooled and contracted once in the cup. Go material science! Or does material science only care about solids? Whatever, that's the domain of physics it reminded me of.
Are you sure it wasn't the cup expanding due to heat?  That seems much more likely to me.  Water is essentially incompressible...

Water may be incompressible, but it, like a solid, still changes volume as temperature changes.  Back of the envelope calculation says that 250 mL of boiling water will lose about 6 mL of volume in dropping to 60 °C.  The volumetric expansion of a ceramic is in the range of 30 ppm/K, or about 0.1% going from 20 °C to 60 °C.  So the cup expands by ~0.25 mL.
Going back to this again:
I just realized I see this happen in my cup too, but I don't think it's due to any expansion/contraction.  I use loose-leaf tea and the infuser I have sits on top of my cup and covers the whole cup so the only way air can escape is through the holes in the infuser.  What I have found is that surface tension keeps water in the infuser higher than the level of the water in the cup, until the pressure head is too high and whoosh, the level in the infuser equalizes with the level of the water in the cup, giving it the appearance of losing volume as you pour and look from the top.  Well, at least I'm pretty sure that's what's happening in my cup...

I was assuming most normal people just use tea bags like the rest of us.  (I don't drink tea unless sick, and even then only herbal.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 29, 2014, 01:32:02 pm
Watch who you're calling abnormal :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 29, 2014, 03:01:00 pm
The methods for preparing tea depend on the tea. Tea bags are the equivalent of Big Money Ultimate in tea brewing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzjhnMTA54k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUfnS4IFS0k

I was assuming most normal people just use tea bags like the rest of us.  (I don't drink tea unless sick, and even then only herbal.)
Tea bags are probably the reason why you don't drink tea unless sick.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 29, 2014, 04:21:12 pm
I was assuming most normal people just use tea bags like the rest of us.  (I don't drink tea unless sick, and even then only herbal.)
Tea bags are probably the reason why you don't drink tea unless sick.

Well, I generally dislike hot drinks anyway except for hot cocoa.  And I dislike bitter anything.  An 8 oz cup of tea needs about 2 tbsp of sugar to be palatable for me, and there isn't enough sugar in the world to make coffee palatable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 29, 2014, 04:25:01 pm
I was assuming most normal people just use tea bags like the rest of us.  (I don't drink tea unless sick, and even then only herbal.)
Tea bags are probably the reason why you don't drink tea unless sick.

Well, I generally dislike hot drinks anyway except for hot cocoa.  And I dislike bitter anything.  An 8 oz cup of tea needs about 2 tbsp of sugar to be palatable for me, and there isn't enough sugar in the world to make coffee palatable.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/77/7773af9770acea44e2c046c6284ec7d1533d53c8d4091919f012c3f1a9d9adc9.jpg)

Coffee is awesome.  Black or with any combination of cream/sugar.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on April 29, 2014, 04:25:56 pm
I was assuming most normal people just use tea bags like the rest of us.  (I don't drink tea unless sick, and even then only herbal.)
Tea bags are probably the reason why you don't drink tea unless sick.

Well, I generally dislike hot drinks anyway except for hot cocoa.  And I dislike bitter anything.  An 8 oz cup of tea needs about 2 tbsp of sugar to be palatable for me, and there isn't enough sugar in the world to make coffee palatable.

You sound just like me 3 years ago! I came around on tea because in Japan I was not going to refuse green tea so I sucked it up (literally I suppose) until I liked it. I also have a couple of close friends who are tea snobs and would tell you that there are a bunch of teas that aren't bitter and don't need sugar to be tasty.

With coffee, try it iced or blended! With lots of cream and sugar, of course. For whatever reason, coffee really loses its bitter edge when served cold.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 29, 2014, 04:29:36 pm
And I dislike bitter anything.
Yep, it's the tea bags.

I also have a couple of close friends who are tea snobs and would tell you that there are a bunch of teas that aren't bitter and don't need sugar to be tasty.
I guess you could call me a tea snob, and I put sugar in all teas and milk in Indian ones. I don't do it because the teas are bitter though, I do it because I'm used to it. If a tea is bitter, I assume that I didn't prepare it correctly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 29, 2014, 04:42:04 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m30qm7KD8R1r4o0p2o1_500.jpg)

I have no idea what webcomic this is from, if any.  Anybody know?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 29, 2014, 04:42:59 pm
oglaf.com

It's very NSFW.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 29, 2014, 04:46:32 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m30qm7KD8R1r4o0p2o1_500.jpg)

I have no idea what webcomic this is from, if any.  Anybody know?
Google Images finds Oglaf.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on April 29, 2014, 04:52:41 pm
oglaf.com

It's very NSFW.

How is it NSFW?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 29, 2014, 04:56:41 pm
oglaf.com

It's very NSFW.

How is it NSFW?
Most of the comics involve sex/masturbation/nudity (and are graphic about it unlike, say, cyanide and happiness). This is one of the few SFW ones. Just fair warning.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on April 29, 2014, 05:01:43 pm
I was assuming most normal people just use tea bags like the rest of us.  (I don't drink tea unless sick, and even then only herbal.)
Tea bags are probably the reason why you don't drink tea unless sick.

Well, I generally dislike hot drinks anyway except for hot cocoa.  And I dislike bitter anything.  An 8 oz cup of tea needs about 2 tbsp of sugar to be palatable for me, and there isn't enough sugar in the world to make coffee palatable.
I have plenty of green or white teas that are not bitter at all.  Harney and Son's Hot Cinnamon spice (comes loose or in sachets (fancy tea bags)) and green hot cinnamon are both naturally sweet from the cinnamon. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 29, 2014, 05:07:13 pm
Normal tea, milk, sugar if you need it.

Fact
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 29, 2014, 05:20:26 pm
Normal tea, milk, sugar if you need it.

Fact
Don't know what you consider to be "normal" tea, but I think it would be a very bad idea to put milk in, say, sencha. Or anything from the East Asia, really.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 29, 2014, 05:25:23 pm
Normal tea, milk, sugar if you need it.

Fact
Don't know what you consider to be "normal" tea, but I think it would be a very bad idea to put milk in, say, sencha. Or anything from the East Asia, really.

Then its clearly not normal tea, duuuuuh
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on April 29, 2014, 05:26:58 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 29, 2014, 05:30:13 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

I think it's English Breakfast, actually.

I've come around to tea in milk, depending on the setting.  I've lived in countries where it's the norm, and where it's not.  It's all good.

I had crazy good tea in Baghdad, for example.  Turns out it was British (Ahmad).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 29, 2014, 05:49:00 pm
"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?
I think it's English Breakfast, actually.
Those are blends. Earl Grey even has non-tea stuff in it. Certainly less normal than sencha.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 29, 2014, 05:54:47 pm
My favorite is probably Thai Iced Tea. nom
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 29, 2014, 05:55:29 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

There are so many different milks.  My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.  Surely you could find one that you can digest well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 29, 2014, 05:58:00 pm
I've never really liked tea.  Granted, I haven't tried too many different types, but all the types I have tried have had some taste I didn't really like.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 29, 2014, 06:00:53 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

There are so many different milks.  My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.  Surely you could find one that you can digest well.

He isnt saying he cant digest it, i believe he is saying all humans cant digest it properly....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 29, 2014, 06:03:19 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

I always found this kind of funny.. I have no issues at all with milk, or cheese, or any dairy products.  I feel like eating carbohydrates (like sugary or floury stuff) has a much more negative effect on my body (in lots of ways, primarily energy-wise). 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on April 29, 2014, 06:06:23 pm
Yes that is what I'm saying. I'm speaking about cow milk specifically : I can't be bothered to look for a source right now but I'm pretty sure the human digestive system has a problem with cow milk.

I know Earl Grey isn't just tea, but it's the "vanilla" kind of tea : when you say tea and you don't specify, you're generally talking about Earl Grey or something close to it. Well it may be different in other countries, but that's always how I've seen it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 29, 2014, 06:09:36 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

There are so many different milks.  My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.  Surely you could find one that you can digest well.

He isnt saying he cant digest it, i believe he is saying all humans cant digest it properly....

And I'm saying that humans can digest milks.  There may be some exceptions, such as a person being allergic to almonds or not able to digest the lactose in a mammal milk (though these are morally questionable anyhow).  But I've never heard of someone not being able to digest any milk, aside from extreme cases where someone needs to live off an IV due to serious digestive anomalies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 29, 2014, 06:11:59 pm
Not just milk......all dairy!

*waits for the pseudo science*
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on April 29, 2014, 06:15:09 pm
I did a quick search on Wikipedia, and apparently cow milk has numerous health benefits, although research has indicated it might slightly increase the prevalence of a few diseases. So I dunno.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 29, 2014, 06:17:14 pm
I did a quick search on Wikipedia, and apparently cow milk has numerous health benefits, although research has indicated it might slightly increase the prevalence of a few diseases. So I dunno.

Wikipedia is run by the Man though!

Google: humans shouldnt eat dairy
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 29, 2014, 06:18:17 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

There are so many different milks.  My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.  Surely you could find one that you can digest well.


Also, and i nearly missed this......how the fuck do you milk a cashew?! Thats gotta be some tiny udders!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 29, 2014, 06:18:55 pm
I did a quick search on Wikipedia, and apparently cow milk has numerous health benefits, although research has indicated it might slightly increase the prevalence of a few diseases. So I dunno.
It depends on whether you can still produce lactase or not as an adult, thus whether you can digest it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 29, 2014, 06:37:14 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

There are so many different milks.  My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.  Surely you could find one that you can digest well.


Also, and i nearly missed this......how the fuck do you milk a cashew?! Thats gotta be some tiny udders!

The same way most plant milks are produced.  You soak the cashews in water until soft, then you mash/puree them, and pour through a strainer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 29, 2014, 06:43:37 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

There are so many different milks.  My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.  Surely you could find one that you can digest well.


Also, and i nearly missed this......how the fuck do you milk a cashew?! Thats gotta be some tiny udders!

The same way most plant milks are produced.  You soak the cashews in water until soft, then you mash/puree them, and pour through a strainer.

Do you have to do it this way because thier udders are so small?
Thank heavens cows have large udders
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 29, 2014, 06:48:52 pm
I think it's a bad idea to put milk in anything but that's just me. Although the human digestive system agrees with me.

"Normal tea" is Earl Grey, right ?

There are so many different milks.  My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.  Surely you could find one that you can digest well.


Also, and i nearly missed this......how the fuck do you milk a cashew?! Thats gotta be some tiny udders!

The same way most plant milks are produced.  You soak the cashews in water until soft, then you mash/puree them, and pour through a strainer.

Do you have to do it this way because thier udders are so small?
Thank heavens cows have large udders

Nah, it has to do with the thick exterior of the cow which doesn't soften.  For instance, coconuts are milked by their udders since they don't soften in water.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 29, 2014, 07:10:36 pm
But coconuts are not even native to these parts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 29, 2014, 07:13:15 pm
But coconuts are not even native to these parts.

I'm not sure where you live, but I'd wager cows aren't native either.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 29, 2014, 07:35:03 pm
My go to is cashew, my ex preferred coconut.

Do you mean you preferred coconut before, and now cashew, or that your ex-partner preferred coconut?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 29, 2014, 07:37:01 pm
cashew
Gesundheit
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 30, 2014, 03:30:40 am
But coconuts are not even native to these parts.

It could have been carried there by a swallow...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on April 30, 2014, 08:39:55 am
oglaf.com

It's very NSFW.

How is it NSFW?
Most of the comics involve sex/masturbation/nudity (and are graphic about it unlike, say, cyanide and happiness). This is one of the few SFW ones. Just fair warning.

I recognized the artwork instantly, and I was worried about what else was going to come up on my screen at work. But it had already loaded and was in my cache, so I might as well go through with it. I was glad to see it's one of the few SFW pieces.

It's got some funny ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 30, 2014, 10:39:58 am
But coconuts are not even native to these parts.

I'm not sure where you live, but I'd wager cows aren't native either.

There's a "your mom" joke in here, but I don't want to get banned :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 30, 2014, 10:40:58 am
But coconuts are not even native to these parts.

It could have been carried there by a swallow...

You're telling me swallows are employed by the producers of nondairy milk?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on April 30, 2014, 11:27:56 am
In regards to coffee...  Wither, you are awesome.  And dsell, if you find coffee bitter, you need to get beans which are NOT French roast.  Basically, that's code for "burn the shit out of the bean".  It's the goto roast in most of the US and scoffed at categorically by actual coffee growing regions (or at least the latin American ones that raerae is familiar with)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on April 30, 2014, 12:20:21 pm
Disappointed this has now gone 4 posts without anybody continuing the Monty Python reference

I am disappointed in all of you
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 30, 2014, 12:21:40 pm
Disappointed this has now gone 4 posts without anybody continuing the Monty Python reference

I am disappointed in all of you

Mine counted!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 30, 2014, 01:03:18 pm
Disappointed this has now gone 4 posts without anybody continuing the Monty Python reference

I am disappointed in all of you

Mine counted!

Fetchez la vache.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 30, 2014, 01:11:15 pm
But coconuts are not even native to these parts.

I'm not sure where you live, but I'd wager cows aren't native either.

There's a "your mom" joke in here, but I don't want to get banned :(
Yeah, your mom does carry a lot of weight around here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on April 30, 2014, 03:27:32 pm
Disappointed this has now gone 4 posts without anybody continuing the Monty Python reference

I am disappointed in all of you

Mine counted!

Copying treasures has nothing to do with Monty Python...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 30, 2014, 04:59:05 pm
Guess what the fan expansion of Cosmic Encounter is called?

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10268722_669955479708626_8799487050451372593_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on April 30, 2014, 05:57:02 pm
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/c7/74/2d/c7742d836c3abddbd1dc0ea3d483ba77.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on April 30, 2014, 06:01:01 pm
Happy Walpurgisnacht!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on April 30, 2014, 06:06:07 pm
Happy Walpurgisnacht!

Gesundheit
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on April 30, 2014, 06:09:59 pm
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/c7/74/2d/c7742d836c3abddbd1dc0ea3d483ba77.jpg)

This is cute and all, but the fact that she felt the need to sign the thing like it's a priceless work of art...obnoxious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 30, 2014, 07:01:17 pm
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/c7/74/2d/c7742d836c3abddbd1dc0ea3d483ba77.jpg)

This is cute and all, but the fact that she felt the need to sign the thing like it's a priceless work of art...obnoxious.

This is a comment made by me. It's funny.

Written by KingZog3 from f.ds, a dominion forum.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 30, 2014, 07:03:52 pm
Well you *do* need a signature...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 30, 2014, 07:21:39 pm
Well you *do* need a signature...


Aaaaand Sir peebles put this as his signature before I did.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on April 30, 2014, 08:03:48 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ybbc2XN.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on April 30, 2014, 08:06:34 pm
This is cute and all, but the fact that she felt the need to sign the thing like it's a priceless work of art...obnoxious.
Given the tendency of people on the internet to post things like the Oatmeal comics on image sharing websites without even trying to attribute the correct author (and in some cases deliberately removing or obscuring the copyright lines and other parts of the image that help identify its origins), I can see why she did it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 30, 2014, 08:13:02 pm
...
This is now my desktop.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on April 30, 2014, 08:38:31 pm
...
This is now my desktop.

It's the most beautiful  thing I've ever seen :')
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 30, 2014, 09:09:32 pm
So, I heard this advertisement for some car brand (BMW I think), and they were talking about how many "pound-feet" of torque the engine had.

Aside from the fact that BMW is a European company (right?), isn't it standard to say "foot-pounds" instead of "pound-feet" in American units? 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 30, 2014, 09:13:36 pm
1 pound-foot is worth 2 clap-hands, which in turn is worth 8 snap-fingers.

AndrewFTTW probably could tell you more.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 30, 2014, 09:22:03 pm
1 pound-foot is worth 2 clap-hands, which in turn is worth 8 snap-fingers.

AndrewFTTW probably could tell you more.

Damned old style units and their weird conversions.  In metric, 1 hand clap is 10 finger snaps, just like you would expect it to be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 30, 2014, 09:37:17 pm
1 pound-foot is worth 2 clap-hands, which in turn is worth 8 snap-fingers.

AndrewFTTW probably could tell you more.

Thanks that clear everything up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on April 30, 2014, 09:38:38 pm
1 pound-foot is worth 2 clap-hands, which in turn is worth 8 snap-fingers.

AndrewFTTW probably could tell you more.

Damned old style units and their weird conversions.  In metric, 1 hand clap is 10 finger snaps, just like you would expect it to be.

I would expect 1 hand clap to be 10 finger bangs..... oh wait.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on April 30, 2014, 09:52:40 pm
1 pound-foot is worth 2 clap-hands, which in turn is worth 8 snap-fingers.

AndrewFTTW probably could tell you more.

Damned old style units and their weird conversions.  In metric, 1 hand clap is 10 finger snaps, just like you would expect it to be.

I would expect 1 hand clap to be 10 finger bangs..... oh wait.

Nah, those units measure different things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on April 30, 2014, 10:02:43 pm
1 pound-foot is worth 2 clap-hands, which in turn is worth 8 snap-fingers.

AndrewFTTW probably could tell you more.

Damned old style units and their weird conversions.  In metric, 1 hand clap is 10 finger snaps, just like you would expect it to be.

I would expect 1 hand clap to be 10 finger bangs..... oh wait.

Nah, those units measure different things.
One causes the other.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 30, 2014, 10:28:23 pm
...
This is now my desktop.

It's the most beautiful  thing I've ever seen :')
If I ever get a labtop, I might also make that my background.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on April 30, 2014, 10:31:01 pm
...
This is now my desktop.

It's the most beautiful  thing I've ever seen :')
If I ever get a labtop, I might also make that my background.

You know what though, KingZog3 and I live in the same city. If any lurkers see that as my wallpaper they might mistake me for him. Or, they might correctly realize who I am. Interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on May 01, 2014, 12:38:49 am
Guess what the fan expansion of Cosmic Encounter is called?

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10268722_669955479708626_8799487050451372593_n.jpg)

Osmic Domino?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on May 01, 2014, 02:29:42 am
Guess what the fan expansion of Cosmic Encounter is called?

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10268722_669955479708626_8799487050451372593_n.jpg)

Osmic Domino?
Don't forget the subtitle: ⌐ v ⊓ ⋀ ◣| ᓕ | ⊓ ◣|
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on May 01, 2014, 06:23:41 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3SBzmDxGk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 01, 2014, 11:33:35 am
Shatner doesn't…use Shatner…commas. He…uses…Shatner…ellipses….like….a boss.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 01, 2014, 11:46:11 am
(http://i.imgur.com/U0bEbLV.png?1)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 01, 2014, 11:49:46 am
Shatner doesn't…use Shatner…commas. He…uses…Shatner…ellipses….like….a boss.

Shatner does not like Khaaaaaaaaamas
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on May 01, 2014, 12:06:18 pm
Guess what the fan expansion of Cosmic Encounter is called?

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10268722_669955479708626_8799487050451372593_n.jpg)

Osmic Domino?
Osmic DominIo

Once again, I'm a few posts behind in this thread
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 01, 2014, 01:01:35 pm
I'm a few posts behind in this thread

Which reminds me... I forgot to scroll up when I opened this thread. Time to go back and see what I missed this time!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 01, 2014, 01:03:05 pm
Turns out it was this:

Guess what the fan expansion of Cosmic Encounter is called?

(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10268722_669955479708626_8799487050451372593_n.jpg)

Which will explain why I got a bit confused when I saw it quoted above... I think I came to the conclusion it was quoted from another thread or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 02, 2014, 01:50:02 pm
1 pound-foot is worth 2 clap-hands, which in turn is worth 8 snap-fingers.

AndrewFTTW probably could tell you more.

8 snap fingers is worth 16 "I used to say hi to you but now I just glance in your direction" eye stares.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 02, 2014, 01:52:12 pm
Hey guys, I totally passed out at the doctor's office after having blood drawn and now my girlfriend has to come pick me up. So much fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 02, 2014, 03:15:09 pm
Hey guys, I totally passed out at the doctor's office after having blood drawn and now my girlfriend has to come pick me up. So much fun.

Possibly the least manly thing I have heard all day!

Hope you are ok though!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 02, 2014, 03:16:23 pm
Pretty sure I'm about to throw out my entire cd collection.

It's only about 50 CDs but I never listen to them anymore and my only CD player is in the car, so I have kept some of the best to put in there and will never listen too (can connect my iphone to radio in car anyway)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 02, 2014, 03:38:11 pm
Pretty sure I'm about to throw out my entire cd collection.

It's only about 50 CDs but I never listen to them anymore and my only CD player is in the car, so I have kept some of the best to put in there and will never listen too (can connect my iphone to radio in car anyway)

You could sell them.  I'm sure you could some a fair bit of money.  Keep them for about two more years and they might already be antique!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 02, 2014, 03:38:41 pm
Hey guys, I totally passed out at the doctor's office after having blood drawn and now my girlfriend has to come pick me up. So much fun.

Possibly the least manly thing I have heard all day!

Hope you are ok though!

I'm alright. They told me to fast for 12 hours and drink lots of water. I didn't drink lots of water. That shit sucked.

Pretty sure I'm about to throw out my entire cd collection.

It's only about 50 CDs but I never listen to them anymore and my only CD player is in the car, so I have kept some of the best to put in there and will never listen too (can connect my iphone to radio in car anyway)

I might take them off your hands. Do you have anything good? "Ozle Sings Company" is not something I'd consider "good" by the way. It's ok, just not good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 02, 2014, 03:56:16 pm
Nothing that you couldn't buy cheaper off amazon for the shipping costs....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 03, 2014, 10:31:19 am
May the Third be with you all today.

...

Wait, am I doing it right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 03, 2014, 03:32:38 pm
Ugh, it seems that every single semester students in my math class make this same mistake.  Let's say I ask them to verify that x=2 is a solution to the equation x^2 - x = 4/x.

They will write:

x^2 - x = 4/x
2^2 - 2 = 4/2
4 - 2 = 2
2 = 2

and then finish it off with a big, confident checkmark.  :'(

Is this a consequence of how they were taught in high school?  Is it a bad habit from their engineering classes?  It isn't just the Americans; the students from China do it too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on May 03, 2014, 03:59:01 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 03, 2014, 04:14:23 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 03, 2014, 04:21:50 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.
Most of what they have written is correct, eg 2 really equals 2...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 03, 2014, 04:23:53 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.
Most of what they have written is correct, eg 2 really equals 2...

Ha, alright.  They have not successfully verifed what was requested.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 03, 2014, 04:25:06 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.
Seriously.  I think the habbit comes from, they do it like that in school (with equivalences), and then at university you tell them they should not use equivalences...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on May 03, 2014, 04:42:03 pm
I work at a board game store now!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 03, 2014, 05:06:59 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.

Algebra as taught to HS students (in the US) uses the format you presented first.  And all of calculus that I remember (a year of high school, plus a year of college including differential equations) also used that general format.  Similarly in all my engineering classes.

Is the problem that they are supposed to be showing a formal proof, and are instead working the algebra?  What you've given as preferred seems to be shorthand notation for a proof.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 03, 2014, 05:07:17 pm
Also!  Self:  When you're on tilt, stop playing Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 03, 2014, 05:24:58 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.

Algebra as taught to HS students (in the US) uses the format you presented first.  And all of calculus that I remember (a year of high school, plus a year of college including differential equations) also used that general format.  Similarly in all my engineering classes.

Is the problem that they are supposed to be showing a formal proof, and are instead working the algebra?  What you've given as preferred seems to be shorthand notation for a proof.

What would verifying mean if not to prove it?  Those two terms are synonymous.  And it's not an issue of a preferred format.  What I wrote first simply does not verify the statement.  Here's another example. 

Let the equation be x - 1 = sqrt(x+5).  Show x=4 is a solution.  They would write

x - 1 = sqrt(x + 5)
4 - 1 = sqrt(4 + 5)
3 = sqrt(9)
9 = 9
Big checkmark

On the other hand, if they wanted to verify that x= -1 is a solution, they would write

x - 1 = sqrt(x + 5)
-1 - 1 = sqrt(-1 + 5)
-2 = sqrt(4)
4 = 4
Big checkmark
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 03, 2014, 05:32:20 pm
I work at a board game store now!

Nice!
Please hide all of thier copies of Fluxx in a fire outside
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 03, 2014, 05:40:35 pm
Let the equation be x - 1 = sqrt(x+5).  Show x=4 is a solution.  They would write

x - 1 = sqrt(x + 5)
4 - 1 = sqrt(4 + 5)
3 = sqrt(9)
9 = 9
Big checkmark

On the other hand, if they wanted to verify that x= -1 is a solution, they would write

x - 1 = sqrt(x + 5)
-1 - 1 = sqrt(-1 + 5)
-2 = sqrt(4)
4 = 4
Big checkmark
Why would they write 9 = 9 and 4 = 4? In what you wrote first, they're inserting x=2 into the equation and then verifying that it's true, which does prove that x=2 is a solution to the original equation unless I'm mistaken. In these examples, they're doing the same thing until the last line where they just pull some random numbers out of their asses.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on May 03, 2014, 05:43:00 pm

[...]

What would verifying mean if not to prove it?  Those two terms are synonymous.  And it's not an issue of a preferred format.  What I wrote first simply does not verify the statement.  Here's another example. 

Let the equation be x - 1 = sqrt(x+5).  Show x=4 is a solution.  They would write

x - 1 = sqrt(x + 5)
4 - 1 = sqrt(4 + 5)
3 = sqrt(9)
9 = 9
Big checkmark

On the other hand, if they wanted to verify that x= -1 is a solution, they would write

x - 1 = sqrt(x + 5)
-1 - 1 = sqrt(-1 + 5)
-2 = sqrt(4)
4 = 4
Big checkmark

In this example, the problem is not the method used by the students; the problem is that squaring is not invertible so while -2 = sqrt(4) implies 4=4, 4=4 does not imply that -2 = sqrt(4).
However, in the original example, no transformations (invertible or otherwise) are applied to the equality, so the statements are all biconditional and it has been verified that 2 is a solution.

So, I don't really understand your problem in the original example. Could you tried to explain it in a way that, say, a high school math student who was taught to do this would understand?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 03, 2014, 06:12:58 pm
I've never had anybody tell me to write things like the way you are asking.  To know where I am in my math education, I'm taking precalculus, but have done a lot of calculus on my own time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 03, 2014, 06:24:38 pm
Also, clearly wrong.

Everybody knows that X = 10
Duuuh
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 03, 2014, 06:41:09 pm
So, I don't really understand your problem in the original example. Could you tried to explain it in a way that, say, a high school math student who was taught to do this would understand?

Quote
x^2 - x = 4/x
2^2 - 2 = 4/2
4 - 2 = 2
2 = 2

I would point to line 2 and asked them why that is true.  Probably they will say "I just plugged in x=2".  I would ask them if 3^2 - 3 = 4/3 is also true since it is just plugging in x=3.  Hopefully they would say that it isn't, so I would ask them again why it is true for x=2.  At this point they would probably either say that they don't know, or they would say it is because 4 -2 really does equal 4/2.  After they explain that, I would tell them that that it what I wanted them to say in the first place.

Now, it is true that one can treat a statement like 3^2 - 3 = 4/3 more abstractly as an object with a truth value.  Then you can string together a chain of logical equivalences, ultimately resulting in a true statement being equivalent to the statement "x=2 is a solution".  But that is quite abstract and subtle.  Better to just tell them not to include a statement in their argument if they have not yet demonstrated that it is true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 03, 2014, 06:47:39 pm
Actually, I've never had a problem where I had to prove some value of x is a root to an equation.  I'm always asked to just find the roots of an equation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on May 03, 2014, 07:28:39 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.

You have not been clear that you are expecting a higher level of formality when presenting answers. And you should be clear that the point of these stupid questions is to practice writing in a higher level of formality, not to review basic high school algebra.

What the students write down makes clear that they plugged in numbers and did enough calculations that they convinced themselves that 2 is a solution. They have not formally written out the verification process, though. It's scratch work, not proof. The "bad habit" comes from not having to write out formal proofs for stupid things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 03, 2014, 07:33:26 pm
Peebles is right, and it's a much bigger problem with trig identities, where you may be motivated to manipulate both sides.  So students are asked to show P=Q and they go

P=Q
[Do some manipulations]
...
P=Q

So P=Q because P=Q.   And it can actually be false that P=Q, but everything else was correct, so the argument is valid, given the (untrue) start.  So they "proved" something that is false to be true.

And yes, they get taught this in high school and possibly by informal college teachers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 03, 2014, 07:34:34 pm
I think the problem is that they haven't done things like you think they have when they haven't.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 03, 2014, 07:34:52 pm
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.

You have not been clear that you are expecting a higher level of formality when presenting answers. And you should be clear that the point of these stupid questions is to practice writing in a higher level of formality, not to review basic high school algebra.

What the students write down makes clear that they plugged in numbers and did enough calculations that they convinced themselves that 2 is a solution. They have not formally written out the verification process, though. It's scratch work, not proof. The "bad habit" comes from not having to write out formal proofs for stupid things.

But it really does matter.  Like for verifying trig identities
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 03, 2014, 07:35:29 pm
I think the problem is that they haven't done things like you think they have when they haven't.

The don't think it be like it is, but it do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on May 03, 2014, 07:36:53 pm
Peebles is right, and it's a much bigger problem with trig identities, where you may be motivated to manipulate both sides.  So students are asked to show P=Q and they go

P=Q
[Do some manipulations]
...
P=Q

So P=Q because P=Q.   And it can actually be false that P=Q, but everything else was correct, so the argument is valid, given the (untrue) start.  So they "proved" something that is false to be true.

And yes, they get taught this in high school and possibly by informal college teachers.
I'd like to see an example of this, just to convince myself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 03, 2014, 07:39:21 pm
The example I gave here was just for illustration.  The problem I gave them asked them to show that a certain function is a solution to a given differential equation. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 03, 2014, 07:44:49 pm
I think the problem is that they haven't done things like you think they have when they haven't.

The don't think it be like it is, but it do.

Oops, I messed up that sentence somewhat.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 03, 2014, 08:17:39 pm
Bah, enough of that math stuff.  Here are some jokes.  And to make them funnier some British guy interrupts to explain them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJQWtGm3eIs&src_vid=Fmb3TCvlETk&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_218400
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on May 03, 2014, 09:32:43 pm
I work at a board game store now!

Nice!
Please hide all of thier copies of Fluxx in a fire outside

Hey! I collect Fluxx!*

*by collect I mean, I drunkenly lost my girlfriend's base game**, with tons of rare promos and the original versions of many cards, back when they were promos first, and have dedicated myself to re-creating the lost deck with the original versions of these cards. Anybody have the promo version of Final Card Random from 3.0?

**she doesn't actually care that this happened
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 04, 2014, 02:13:44 am
I don't think any Twitch Plays Pokemon stuff needs its own thread anymore.

I checked in on the stream, and it seems like right now they're playing Platinum. However, there's also a side game of Pokemon Stadium 2. Everyone starts with $1000, it shows 2 teams of Pokemon, you place a bet, and then they randomly fight. Only restriction is that if you would go below $100, you stay at $100 instead.

This might be the only reason I watch the stream now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 04, 2014, 03:25:41 am
I don't think any Twitch Plays Pokemon stuff needs its own thread anymore.

I checked in on the stream, and it seems like right now they're playing Platinum. However, there's also a side game of Pokemon Stadium 2. Everyone starts with $1000, it shows 2 teams of Pokemon, you place a bet, and then they randomly fight. Only restriction is that if you would go below $100, you stay at $100 instead.

This might be the only reason I watch the stream now.
saltybet + tpp = ??
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 04, 2014, 05:53:34 am
Bah, enough of that math stuff.  Here are some jokes.  And to make them funnier some British guy interrupts to explain them.

People from Australia are referred to as "British" now?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 04, 2014, 06:33:02 am
Bah, enough of that math stuff.  Here are some jokes.  And to make them funnier some British guy interrupts to explain them.

People from Australia are referred to as "British" now?
He probably meant to type "brutish", it's an easy mistake to make since U and I are right next to each other on the keyboard. By the way, I just realized that the last part of my previous sentence sounds a lot more romantic than I intended when you read it out loud.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 04, 2014, 06:46:39 am
Bah, enough of that math stuff.  Here are some jokes.  And to make them funnier some British guy interrupts to explain them.

People from Australia are referred to as "British" now?

Ruled by a British Queen!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 04, 2014, 06:47:37 am
I work at a board game store now!

Nice!
Please hide all of thier copies of Fluxx in a fire outside

Hey! I collect Fluxx!*

*by collect I mean, I drunkenly lost my girlfriend's base game**, with tons of rare promos and the original versions of many cards, back when they were promos first, and have dedicated myself to re-creating the lost deck with the original versions of these cards. Anybody have the promo version of Final Card Random from 3.0?

**she doesn't actually care that this happened

Oh dear.
I have removed the +1 I gave you and will be withholding future +1's until you learn the error of your ways.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on May 04, 2014, 08:57:26 am
It's definitely ugly, but lines 2, 3 and 4 are equivalent to each other, so they are demonstrating what you are asking.

If I really wanted to do it this way for some reason, I'd say "let's assume that 2 is a solution (line 2). Equivalently, we have (line 3). Which is equivalent to 2=2, which is always right. Hence, our assumption was right."

I guess you would rather see "x^2 - x - 4/x = ... = 0" ?

It's not just ugly.  They are not demonstrating what is asked, unless perhaps they were to explicitly indicate lines 2, 3, and 4 are equivalent.  Unless the student indicates otherwise, the convention is that they are indicating that line 1 implies line 2, line 2 implies line 3, and so forth.  One student even put a "therefore" symbol in the last line, which is especially egregious.

What I would like to see is

x^2 - x = 2^2 - 2 = 4 - 2 = 2
4/x = 4/2 = 2
Therefore x^2 - x = 4/x when x=2.

But what they have written is most certainly not correct, and I don't know where this habit comes from.

You have not been clear that you are expecting a higher level of formality when presenting answers. And you should be clear that the point of these stupid questions is to practice writing in a higher level of formality, not to review basic high school algebra.

What the students write down makes clear that they plugged in numbers and did enough calculations that they convinced themselves that 2 is a solution. They have not formally written out the verification process, though. It's scratch work, not proof. The "bad habit" comes from not having to write out formal proofs for stupid things.

But it really does matter.  Like for verifying trig identities

But this is what you have to teach. Why it matters. And convince them that the extra work it takes to formally write it out is sometimes needed. Because often, it's not.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on May 04, 2014, 09:00:42 am
The example I gave here was just for illustration.  The problem I gave them asked them to show that a certain function is a solution to a given differential equation.

Then it makes even more sense why they write what they do. If it's not obvious, then they may simply be working from both sides of the equation until they get to a point in which they convince themselves the expressions are equal. They don't rewrite their scratch work formally.

Just like a programmer has to convince people of the necessity of cleaning and commenting code, a mathematician must convince people of the necessity of writing formal statements.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 04, 2014, 09:11:07 am
But this is what you have to teach. Why it matters. And convince them that the extra work it takes to formally write it out is sometimes needed. Because often, it's not.

There's a limit to what you can teach someone in one semester.  I did teach them what solutions to differential equations are.  I did numerous examples.  I taught them about solutions to linear systems of algebraic equations and to linear systems of differential equations.  I taught them about eigenvectors, eigenvalues, Laplace transforms and so on.  How much time am I supposed to devote to explain why circular arguments are not valid? They've already taken half a dozen other math classes at university in addition to years of math classes in high school.  Plus just everyday experience and logic, including in other courses.  If they don't already grasp that circular reasoning is flawed, what am I supposed to do about it?  Maybe I'm just an awful teacher.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on May 04, 2014, 09:28:33 am
Here's the thought process and the scratch they write down:

Here's my starting equation:
x^2 - x = 4/x
I am asked to verify 2 is a solution. Let's plug it in. Are the two sides equal?
2^2 - 2 ?=? 4/2
I don't know. It's not obvious. Let's simplify each side a little. Are the two sides equal?
4 - 2 ?=? 2
I don't know. It's not obvious. Let's simplify each side a little. Are the two sides equal?
2 ?=? 2
YES. It's obvious to me. I am convinced 2 is a solution. BIG CHECKMARK.

If they are doing it right, they are THINKING 2^2-2=4-2=2 and 4/2=2=2, but that is not what they are writing down. They are thinking, okay, I can go down the left hand side and up the right hand side.

For your other example, they are really unsure and start applying functions to both sides that might not be invertible, causing problems.

sqt(9) ?=? 3
Are they equal? I don't know. It's not obvious. Hmmm. I don't know how to take the square root of 9. Let's square both sides, instead. If the square is equal the square root must be equal, right?
9 ?=? 9
YES! So, I can start with 9 = 9 and go up the page to what we were asked to verify. BIG CHECKMARK.


If you can give them an example of where this informal scratch work actually leads "verifying" an incorrect answer, then that might be a good example to share.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on May 04, 2014, 09:47:57 am
But this is what you have to teach. Why it matters. And convince them that the extra work it takes to formally write it out is sometimes needed. Because often, it's not.

There's a limit to what you can teach someone in one semester.  I did teach them what solutions to differential equations are.  I did numerous examples.  I taught them about solutions to linear systems of algebraic equations and to linear systems of differential equations.  I taught them about eigenvectors, eigenvalues, Laplace transforms and so on.  How much time am I supposed to devote to explain why circular arguments are not valid? They've already taken half a dozen other math classes at university in addition to years of math classes in high school.  Plus just everyday experience and logic, including in other courses.  If they don't already grasp that circular reasoning is flawed, what am I supposed to do about it? 

That's fair.

If you are doing examples, then maybe the only time you should have to take is the time to stop after doing an example and saying, "This is the level of formality I expect from you on your homework. If you write [stupid example] then this is how I read it [circular logic]. Please write it out like this [point to good example]." The problem then probably isn't they don't know, but that they choose not to spend the time to write down clean answers if they think they can get away with it. It saves them time. If they don't understand what you are asking, then, as you say, it's not part of your course, so to what extent should you spend time on it? They can ask in office hours, maybe.

It just seems like if the problem comes up year after year with a large number of students, there should be something easy and relatively time-cheap that you can do to head off the problems so you don't waste office hours or your evenings marking up all these incorrect assignments every year.

Have you voiced concern to your colleagues who teach the lower level courses?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on May 04, 2014, 09:53:10 am
sqt(9) ?=? 3
Are they equal? I don't know. It's not obvious. Hmmm. I don't know how to take the square root of 9. Let's square both sides, instead. If the square is equal the square root must be equal, right?
9 ?=? 9
YES! So, I can start with 9 = 9 and go up the page to what we were asked to verify. BIG CHECKMARK.

I agree with most of what you're saying, as I would certainly verify a solution by plugging it in and rearranging to get 0=0.  But this example of SirPeebles' is very different, as the squaring is irreversible.  I'd happily accept the first example, but wouldn't accept a "verification" that lost information by squaring.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on May 04, 2014, 10:09:31 am
sqt(9) ?=? 3
Are they equal? I don't know. It's not obvious. Hmmm. I don't know how to take the square root of 9. Let's square both sides, instead. If the square is equal the square root must be equal, right?
9 ?=? 9
YES! So, I can start with 9 = 9 and go up the page to what we were asked to verify. BIG CHECKMARK.

I agree with most of what you're saying, as I would certainly verify a solution by plugging it in and rearranging to get 0=0.  But this example of SirPeebles' is very different, as the squaring is irreversible.  I'd happily accept the first example, but wouldn't accept a "verification" that lost information by squaring.

Yes, this is a potential example of what can go wrong.

Edit: something like this makes your point even better:

does -3 ?=? 3
I don't know. Let's apply absolute value.
3 ?=? 3
YES! Solution verified! (Except not.... )
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 04, 2014, 11:13:48 am
But this is what you have to teach. Why it matters. And convince them that the extra work it takes to formally write it out is sometimes needed. Because often, it's not.

There's a limit to what you can teach someone in one semester.  I did teach them what solutions to differential equations are.  I did numerous examples.  I taught them about solutions to linear systems of algebraic equations and to linear systems of differential equations.  I taught them about eigenvectors, eigenvalues, Laplace transforms and so on.  How much time am I supposed to devote to explain why circular arguments are not valid? They've already taken half a dozen other math classes at university in addition to years of math classes in high school.  Plus just everyday experience and logic, including in other courses.  If they don't already grasp that circular reasoning is flawed, what am I supposed to do about it?  Maybe I'm just an awful teacher.

Not telling them the level of formality you want, then marking them wrong on it, is similar to not teaching them how to do all of these things you just mentioned, then marking them wrong on it because they didn't know how.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 04, 2014, 11:25:40 am
TL:DR summary - Maths stuff
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 04, 2014, 11:32:50 am
It isn't a level of formality thing though.  I'm not looking for anything particularly formal or precisely worded.  But the underlying logical structure of what they've written down is

"I want to prove P.  If P is true, then 2=2.  2=2 is true, therefore P is true."

Maybe that's not what the reasoning in their head is saying, but I'm not sure.  Maybe it is clear to you, but many students approach these things quite mechanically and are unable to articulate the reasoning when pressed.  All I can go by is what is written down.  Again, I am not looking for any fancy notation or style.  But the underlying structure of the written argument needs to be valid.  It's not a trick question or anything. Nor is about level of formality.

Honestly I'm rather taken aback by the resistance I've found here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on May 04, 2014, 11:35:44 am
If you just change that to:

P is true if and only if 2=2. 2=2 is true, therefore P is true.

Then it works fine. So I suppose the students need to clarify their argument a little more.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on May 04, 2014, 11:41:07 am
I work at a board game store now!

Nice!
Please hide all of thier copies of Fluxx in a fire outside

Hey! I collect Fluxx!*

*by collect I mean, I drunkenly lost my girlfriend's base game**, with tons of rare promos and the original versions of many cards, back when they were promos first, and have dedicated myself to re-creating the lost deck with the original versions of these cards. Anybody have the promo version of Final Card Random from 3.0?

**she doesn't actually care that this happened

Oh dear.
I have removed the +1 I gave you and will be withholding future +1's until you learn the error of your ways.

The things I do for love.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 04, 2014, 11:59:37 am
I think (at least what I would think they are thinking) is "If P is true, and I use that in a situation, I should be able to get another statement which is obviously true."

[checking this]

"P is true because when you assume P is true you get another statement which is true."

If P wasn't true, then 2 != 2, or such nonsense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on May 04, 2014, 12:06:47 pm
I think (at least what I would think they are thinking) is "If P is true, and I use that in a situation, I should be able to get another statement which is obviously true."

[checking this]

"P is true because when you assume P is true you get another statement which is true."

If P wasn't true, then 2 != 2, or such nonsense.

If this is the thought process then SirPeebles is right to be concerned.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 04, 2014, 12:13:53 pm
I think (at least what I would think they are thinking) is "If P is true, and I use that in a situation, I should be able to get another statement which is obviously true."

[checking this]

"P is true because when you assume P is true you get another statement which is true."

If P wasn't true, then 2 != 2, or such nonsense.

Exactly.  I'm afraid that some of them may be using the reasoning you've described.  It is important to correct this when it pops up, even if it is only resulting from sloppiness.

And by the way, I'm just marking them wrong on one problem.  It's not like I'm failing them and petitioning that they be expelled from the university or anything.  Sometimes a student needs the concreteness of their answer being marked wrong before they really start questioning what they think they already know.  I can go on in lecture as much as I want about the proper way of verifying solutions, but I find that students have this issue ingrained already and just zone out during such lectures, assuring themselves that they already know how to solve equations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 04, 2014, 06:59:06 pm
PSA:  I bought some lupini beans on a whim at an imported foods shop.  I soaked them overnight and started cooking them.  After tasting one or two I decided to check online to see how long they are supposed to take.  Apparently there is an extensive two week soaking process that they must go through or else they are toxic!  I looked into things a bit more, and apparently I purchased "sweet" lupini beans, which have less of the toxin.  Hopefully I don't die.  I'm just going to toss these beans and go get a veggie burger at a pub.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 04, 2014, 07:14:07 pm
PSA:  I bought some lupini beans on a whim at an imported foods shop.  I soaked them overnight and started cooking them.  After tasting one or two I decided to check online to see how long they are supposed to take.  Apparently there is an extensive two week soaking process that they must go through or else they are toxic!  I looked into things a bit more, and apparently I purchased "sweet" lupini beans, which have less of the toxin.  Hopefully I don't die.  I'm just going to toss these beans and go get a veggie burger at a pub.

Watch out, they turn you into a werewolf
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 04, 2014, 07:21:06 pm
I'll be sure not to drink Coors Light then.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 05, 2014, 02:45:07 am
May the 5th be with you all today.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 05, 2014, 03:08:47 am
Revenge of the fifth.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 05, 2014, 05:37:06 am
Cinco de Veganaise.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on May 05, 2014, 07:24:04 am
So, I don't really understand your problem in the original example. Could you tried to explain it in a way that, say, a high school math student who was taught to do this would understand?

Quote
x^2 - x = 4/x
2^2 - 2 = 4/2
4 - 2 = 2
2 = 2

I would point to line 2 and asked them why that is true.  Probably they will say "I just plugged in x=2".  I would ask them if 3^2 - 3 = 4/3 is also true since it is just plugging in x=3.  Hopefully they would say that it isn't, so I would ask them again why it is true for x=2.  At this point they would probably either say that they don't know, or they would say it is because 4 -2 really does equal 4/2.  After they explain that, I would tell them that that it what I wanted them to say in the first place.

Now, it is true that one can treat a statement like 3^2 - 3 = 4/3 more abstractly as an object with a truth value.  Then you can string together a chain of logical equivalences, ultimately resulting in a true statement being equivalent to the statement "x=2 is a solution".  But that is quite abstract and subtle.  Better to just tell them not to include a statement in their argument if they have not yet demonstrated that it is true.

The students' method is perfectly valid.  Mentally, they're doing the exact same work that I do when I verify solutions.  Basically, treat every equality as a symbol which is "=?"  (meaning, "these possibly be equal"...at the last line, with their checkmark, they have verified that equality holds at all lines).

This is a perfectly valid method of verifying a solution, assuming each step is reversible.  I would use it in papers.  And take serious issue with any referee who objects.

The example I gave here was just for illustration.  The problem I gave them asked them to show that a certain function is a solution to a given differential equation.
A completely equivalent question is literally on the Calc II final that I'm giving my students tomorrow.  A solution similar to the one you wrote would get full points.  I beseech you to give your students full points.  There's a point in teaching how mathematical formality should work and I mention this in many of my classes.  But I wouldn't expect a student in a general class to be assessed on mathematical formality. If your class was titled "Methods of Proof", and the formality was the main issue, then sure, mark off.  But if your class hit a wide range of topics, then the main take-away is that they understand what it means to be a solution to a differential equation, and properly substitute the terms y' and y.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 05, 2014, 07:31:16 am
So, I don't really understand your problem in the original example. Could you tried to explain it in a way that, say, a high school math student who was taught to do this would understand?

Quote
x^2 - x = 4/x
2^2 - 2 = 4/2
4 - 2 = 2
2 = 2

I would point to line 2 and asked them why that is true.  Probably they will say "I just plugged in x=2".  I would ask them if 3^2 - 3 = 4/3 is also true since it is just plugging in x=3.  Hopefully they would say that it isn't, so I would ask them again why it is true for x=2.  At this point they would probably either say that they don't know, or they would say it is because 4 -2 really does equal 4/2.  After they explain that, I would tell them that that it what I wanted them to say in the first place.

Now, it is true that one can treat a statement like 3^2 - 3 = 4/3 more abstractly as an object with a truth value.  Then you can string together a chain of logical equivalences, ultimately resulting in a true statement being equivalent to the statement "x=2 is a solution".  But that is quite abstract and subtle.  Better to just tell them not to include a statement in their argument if they have not yet demonstrated that it is true.

The students' method is perfectly valid.  Mentally, they're doing the exact same work that I do when I verify solutions.  Basically, treat every equality as a symbol which is "=?"  (meaning, "these possibly be equal"...at the last line, with their checkmark, they have verified that equality holds at all lines).

This is a perfectly valid method of verifying a solution, assuming each step is reversible.  I would use it in papers.  And take serious issue with any referee who objects.

The example I gave here was just for illustration.  The problem I gave them asked them to show that a certain function is a solution to a given differential equation.
A completely equivalent question is literally on the Calc II final that I'm giving my students tomorrow.  A solution similar to the one you wrote would get full points.  I beseech you to give your students full points.  There's a point in teaching how mathematical formality should work and I mention this in many of my classes.  But I wouldn't expect a student in a general class to be assessed on mathematical formality. If your class was titled "Methods of Proof", and the formality was the main issue, then sure, mark off.  But if your class hit a wide range of topics, then the main take-away is that they understand what it means to be a solution to a differential equation, and properly substitute the terms y' and y.

I think there should be a bit more explanation during the proof. You can't just put down 4 equations without any hint on how they correspond to each other, or in which permutation they have to be read to give a valid proof.
If you perlude with: "We put it the assumed solution to both sides of they equation and verify that they equal", this is ok I think, but without any text I think it should made be clear to students that they should communicate their line of reasoning, and not just write down steps without showing how they have do be connected to get to the proof.

:e And here, you can't really claim that by default, each of the lines are connected by equivalences, as obviously the first two lines are not equivalent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 09:52:34 am
It isn't a level of formality thing though.  I'm not looking for anything particularly formal or precisely worded.  But the underlying logical structure of what they've written down is

"I want to prove P.  If P is true, then 2=2.  2=2 is true, therefore P is true."

Maybe that's not what the reasoning in their head is saying, but I'm not sure.  Maybe it is clear to you, but many students approach these things quite mechanically and are unable to articulate the reasoning when pressed.  All I can go by is what is written down.  Again, I am not looking for any fancy notation or style.  But the underlying structure of the written argument needs to be valid.  It's not a trick question or anything. Nor is about level of formality.

Honestly I'm rather taken aback by the resistance I've found here.

Hmmm.  So that you know, I'm coming at this from several different angles.  Math was never my primary concentration, so I'm coming at the math itself from the perspective of a chemist, i.e., not that of a mathematician.  Meanwhile, I'm coming at the teaching aspect from the perspective of a licensed high school teacher, and therefore someone who unsurprisingly thinks college professors are given a shockingly low amount of training in actual pedagogy.  (Note that I've taught both HS and college courses.)  That's not intended as a slight against you, or college teachers in general, just a fact of life.  I'm betting you've had no formal training in educational techniques.

Also:  what I'm about to write probably applies more to middle and end of semester than to the start of the semester, but I assume you're near the end of the semester, right?

So, looking at the problem you've presented, the method of solution the students used, and the method of solution you want, I'm going to say that this most definitely is a level of formality thing.  The solution the students present follow a logical flow for a conditional proof:

1. Assume that x = 2 is a solution
2. If assumption 1 is true, both sides of the equation will evaluate to the same number when x = 2
3. Both sides of the equation evaluate to 2 when x = 2
4. Therefore assumption 1 is true.

Obviously what they've written is a shorthand notation for this proof.  But you're expecting (as far as I see it) an unconditional proof something like:

1. x = 2 --> x^2 - x = 2
2. x = 2 --> 4/x = 2
3. 2 = 2
4. Therefore, x = 2 --> x^2 - x = 4/x (HS)

I suspect that the trouble here is one of unstated expectations not being met.  Now, if these are students whose prerequisites ought to have included two previous classes where they should have shown the more formal form, then by all means dock them the points!  They ought to know by now*, much as I would expect a junior-year chem student to be able to multiply 3 x 10 without a calculator.  But if that's not the case, then you have to set your expectations for these sorts of problems (as suggested by Polk above, an example of "no credit" and an example of "this is fine" should be sufficient for a college student).

And by the way, I'm just marking them wrong on one problem.  It's not like I'm failing them and petitioning that they be expelled from the university or anything.  Sometimes a student needs the concreteness of their answer being marked wrong before they really start questioning what they think they already know.  I can go on in lecture as much as I want about the proper way of verifying solutions, but I find that students have this issue ingrained already and just zone out during such lectures, assuring themselves that they already know how to solve equations.

Exactly right.  If you've covered in lecture the correct way of doing these things, then there's no problem.  Dock the points, make sure it's explicit why.

I think the resistance you've gotten here is that all of us were taught to solve things the way you initially showed, and we were surprised by what you wanted instead.

--------

*Who needs a house out in Hackensack, anyway?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 09:54:08 am
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 09:57:45 am
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?

I taught undergrad courses while I was doing my PhD, but I went into industry instead of academia. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 10:05:26 am
This is not a formality thing, it's a correctness thing.  The argument

A = B
...
therefore A=B

is a valid argument, but is not sound if A does not equal B.  This:

Quote
1. Assume that x = 2 is a solution
2. If assumption 1 is true, both sides of the equation will evaluate to the same number when x = 2
3. Both sides of the equation evaluate to 2 when x = 2
4. Therefore assumption 1 is true.

absolutely does not show that x=2 is a solution.  Polk already brought up the counterexample:

1) Assume -3=3.
2) Then (-3)^2 =  (3)^2
3) 9 = 9
4) Statement (3) is true, therefore the assumption (1) is true.

I mean, it's more obvious if you skip 2. and 3. in your proof:

1. Assume that x = 2 is a solution
4. Therefore assumption 1 is true.

It was already true!  That's what step (1) did.  The argument that the students are using, even when made formal, is not correct. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 05, 2014, 10:48:14 am
1) Assume -3=3.
2) Then (-3)^2 =  (3)^2
3) 9 = 9
4) Statement (3) is true, therefore the assumption (1) is true.
That's why you check if both sides are non-negative before squaring them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 10:55:10 am
1) Assume -3=3.
2) Then (-3)^2 =  (3)^2
3) 9 = 9
4) Statement (3) is true, therefore the assumption (1) is true.
That's why you check if both sides are non-negative before squaring them.

You certainly don't need to.  Step (2) is valid because of step (1).  If a=b, then a^2 = b^2.

Okay that was slightly flippant.  But to the practical end, what if the "flaw" is more subtle, so it's not obvious that you're doing something invalid?  I brought up the trig identity thing before, and I'll see if I can think of an example that actually does that.  I bet we could come up with one when verifying y=y(x) solves a particular ODE (or PDE) as well. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 05, 2014, 11:12:45 am
1) Assume -3=3.
2) Then (-3)^2 =  (3)^2
3) 9 = 9
4) Statement (3) is true, therefore the assumption (1) is true.
That's why you check if both sides are non-negative before squaring them.

Yeah, and why do you check it's a non-negative? Because the resasoning presented does not prove what should be proven, but only a modification of it [namely, that you should read the whole thing backwards and/or that you disprove the negation]. That the modification is possible is implicitly checked by the non-negativity.
But this is of course only true for squaring, in other situations other conditions have to be obeyed, abstractly that the operation applied are one-to-one, but in reality this is real confusing.  One should just write the thing in such a way that it can be read forward, and/or state that you disprove the negation.

edit: ftfy
Quote
Quote
1. Assume that x = 2 is not a solution
2. If assumption 1 is true, both sides of the equation will evaluate to different numbers when x = 2
3. Both sides of the equation evaluate to 2 when x = 2
4. Therefore (not assumption 1) is true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 05, 2014, 11:21:20 am
I've mostly been avoiding getting involved in this argument up to now but I'll just weigh in:

I was always taught to do things how Sir Peebles described. Or at least, very similar to it but to never ever do it the way his students did, because that's incorrect. This is what I was taught during GCSEs (13-16 education) and what was also said during A levels (16-18 education), because the way his students did it doesn't prove anything. The method we were taught was that you simply evaluate each side. So I would have written something like:

When x=2: LHS = 2^2 - 2 = 2
When x=2: RHS = 4/2 = 2
As LHS = RHS when x=2, x is a solution to the equation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 05, 2014, 11:24:33 am
So, looking at the problem you've presented, the method of solution the students used, and the method of solution you want, I'm going to say that this most definitely is a level of formality thing.  The solution the students present follow a logical flow for a conditional proof:

1. Assume that x = 2 is a solution
2. If assumption 1 is true, both sides of the equation will evaluate to the same number when x = 2
3. Both sides of the equation evaluate to 2 when x = 2
4. Therefore assumption 1 is true.

This is not valid reasoning, which is precisely my objection.  The fact that a true statement follows from my assumption does not imply that the statement is true.  For instance, I could propose that the sun is a brightly glowing chariot which a god rides around the Earth.  This assumption implies that the sun will rise again tomorrow and that it will be glowing bright again.  Sure enough that's what I find when I check tomorrow.  But I have not logically determined that the sun is a chariot.

In other words, it is not sufficient to deduce a true statement as a consequence of my hunch.  Rather, I need to deduce my hunch as a consequence of some true statement.  I don't expect my students to know the jargon I used in these past two sentences, but I expect them to grasp that the above reasoning did not prove that the sun is a chariot.  I do not believe that a student needs a course in formal logic to get this.

By the way, I am giving them partial credit and lots of it.  80% of the points if they wrote down what I've been complaining about.  They certainly have demonstrated an understanding of much of what I'm testing.  But even though they've hit most of the key ideas, they did not put these ideas together into a well reasoned argument.

And this is not just a math thing.  Surely the same shows up when a student does a lab report for a chem class.  They take the data properly and do the correct calculations for analysis, but when it comes to determining the conclusions their reasoning is shaky.  Hell, maybe they reached the correct conclusions, but you can see that their reasoning is incorrect.  You don't give them an F, but you don't give them an A+ either.

Nor is this just for science.  A student could be writing a feminist analysis of a novel for a literature class, or writing a paper about the economic causes of World War 2 for a history class.  They may hit upon lots of salient points, but if they flounder when collecting these points together into a well reasoned and articulated argument then they'll get what, a B?  Certainly not an A+.  And no one would dismiss this as "literary formality" or question whether history instructor specified that reasoning had to be valid.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 05, 2014, 11:25:26 am
This stuff is totally not random.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 11:32:40 am
So, looking at the problem you've presented, the method of solution the students used, and the method of solution you want, I'm going to say that this most definitely is a level of formality thing.  The solution the students present follow a logical flow for a conditional proof:

1. Assume that x = 2 is a solution
2. If assumption 1 is true, both sides of the equation will evaluate to the same number when x = 2
3. Both sides of the equation evaluate to 2 when x = 2
4. Therefore assumption 1 is true.

This is not valid reasoning, which is precisely my objection. 

Technically, it is valid, no?  Statements (4) follows from statement (1).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 05, 2014, 11:33:47 am
This stuff is totally not random.

Let Z be apositive random variables on a probability space (\Omega, \P). Show that x=2 is a solution to
Code: [Select]
x^2 - Zx = 4/x - (Z-1)x
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 05, 2014, 11:41:16 am
In other words, it is not sufficient to deduce a true statement as a consequence of my hunch.  Rather, I need to deduce my hunch as a consequence of some true statement.
Wouldn't deducing your hunch as a consequence of a some true statement be the equivalent of ignoring the fact that we already know that x = 2 and just solving the equation normally?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 11:42:56 am
By the way, I am giving them partial credit and lots of it.  80% of the points if they wrote down what I've been complaining about.  They certainly have demonstrated an understanding of much of what I'm testing.  But even though they've hit most of the key ideas, they did not put these ideas together into a well reasoned argument.

And this is not just a math thing.  Surely the same shows up when a student does a lab report for a chem class.  They take the data properly and do the correct calculations for analysis, but when it comes to determining the conclusions their reasoning is shaky.  Hell, maybe they reached the correct conclusions, but you can see that their reasoning is incorrect.  You don't give them an F, but you don't give them an A+ either.

Nor is this just for science.  A student could be writing a feminist analysis of a novel for a literature class, or writing a paper about the economic causes of World War 2 for a history class.  They may hit upon lots of salient points, but if they flounder when collecting these points together into a well reasoned and articulated argument then they'll get what, a B?  Certainly not an A+.  And no one would dismiss this as "literary formality" or question whether history instructor specified that reasoning had to be valid.

Fully agreed with all of this!  8/10 would be entirely appropriate given what you're describing.

I think maybe we're all talking around each other?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 05, 2014, 11:44:29 am
In other words, it is not sufficient to deduce a true statement as a consequence of my hunch.  Rather, I need to deduce my hunch as a consequence of some true statement.
Wouldn't deducing your hunch as a consequence of a some true statement be the equivalent of ignoring the fact that we already know that x = 2 and just solving the equation normally?
No, solving a third order equation is not that much fun without looking up formulas.  On the other hand, the sequence:

Code: [Select]
- If both sides evaluate to the same number, the Assumption is true
- Both sides evaluate to 2
is checked quite easily.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 05, 2014, 11:44:48 am
I think maybe we're all talking around each other?
Never, this is the internet after all...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 11:51:46 am
Okay here's another example.

Problem: Show that sin(x) - sin^3(x) = sin(x) cos^2(x) and is never zero for all real x.

Argument:

(1) Suppose sin(x)-sin^3(x) = sin(x)cos^2(x) and is always nonzero.
(2) Since the left-hand side is nonzero, so is the right-hand side.  Since a product of two numbers is nonzero, neither number can be zero.  Therefore, cos^2(x) is nonzero.  Thus, we can divide by cos^2(x).
(3) Then
[sin(x)-sin^3(x)] / cos^2(x) = sin(x)
(4) Then
sin(x) (1-sin^2(x))/cos^2(x) = sin(x)
(5) Then sin(x) [cos^2(x)/cos^2(x)] = sin(x)
(6) sin(x) =sin(x)
(7) Therefore, (1) is true.

Thus, sin(x)-sin^3(x) is never zero.

Statement (1) is false.  But assuming it's true let's me do everything else and end up with a true statement.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 12:05:52 pm
I'm predicting someone will say that example is extremely contrived, and it is.  But pretend you don't know what sin(x) and cos(x) look like.. you don't have a graphing calculator or whatever, you didn't really pay attention when they defined them from triangles, you don't know their values at the "special angles".  So you don't know they should be zero at points.  You're just looking at the problem that says to prove something, and all you know is that sin^2(x)+cos^2(x) = 1.

The false statement here is bundled with a true one.  You assume the entirety and get a true statement (sin x = sin x) and use it to show your original assumption is okay.  That doesn't work.

Maybe someone can think of a more organic example.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 12:12:21 pm
I think part of the problem may be the phrasing of my proof.  Consider without any assumptions:

(1) x = 2 is a solution of Eqn. A iff both sides of Eqn. A will evaluate to the same number when x is set to 2.
(2) Both sides of Eqn. A evaluate to 2 when x = 2. (Demonstrated)
(3) Therefore, x = 2 is a solution of Eqn. A.

I think the problem is I wasn't using the biconditional, and I'm almost certain the biconditional applies to solutions of equations.  Now, it's reasonable to question whether what the student presented satisfies as a demonstration of (2).  And using the wrong reasoning to demonstrate (2) is certainly cause for deduction of points.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 12:18:46 pm
I think part of the problem may be the phrasing of my proof.  Consider without any assumptions:

(1) x = 2 is a solution of Eqn. A iff both sides of Eqn. A will evaluate to the same number when x is set to 2.
(2) Both sides of Eqn. A evaluate to 2 when x = 2. (Demonstrated)
(3) Therefore, x = 2 is a solution of Eqn. A.

I think the problem is I wasn't using the biconditional, and I'm almost certain the biconditional applies to solutions of equations.  Now, it's reasonable to question whether what the student presented satisfies as a demonstration of (2).  And using the wrong reasoning to demonstrate (2) is certainly cause for deduction of points.

Yes, but (2) was not correctly demonstrated by the student. Saying "f(x)=g(x), ...., 2=2" does not demonstrate that a and b evaluate to 2 (or whatever) when plugging in x=2.  It only shows that 2=2 when f(x) = g(x). There could have been manipulations that are only true under the assumption that f(x) = g(x), but are false when that assumption does not hold.  The obvious counterexample is when f(x) = -2^{1/2}, g(x) = 2^{1/2}.  Or if you want it to be hidden more come up with functions f, g so that f(2) = -2^{1/2}, g(2) = 2^{1/2} but it's not so obvious..  Then f(x) = g(x) will imply 2=2, but f!=g.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 05, 2014, 12:28:37 pm
I think the main concern here is what a student writing such a proof means to say.
I think the likely thing ist that the lines were supposed to be a chain of equivalences, in which case that should have been made clear.
If the lines were meant to be a chain of implications,  the whole reasoning would be flawed and it would put the student in danger of making false conclusions as outlined in examples where implications that aren't equivalences were used, which would be a huge problem.

Btw, my preferred way to denote verification of identities is going like this:
Code: [Select]
T1     S1
=      =
T2     S2
=      =
...   ...
=      =
Tn  =  Sn
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on May 05, 2014, 01:07:52 pm
...

+1 for the Billy Joel reference
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on May 05, 2014, 01:35:28 pm
(http://notesonlooking.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/rainbow-couch.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on May 05, 2014, 01:43:59 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?

I taught undergrad courses while I was doing my PhD, but I went into industry instead of academia.

I have taught undergrad Econ.

I have tutored high school through MBA math and Econ at various points in time as well, but I understand that's not the same ;).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 05, 2014, 01:58:09 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 05, 2014, 02:01:47 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 05, 2014, 02:25:49 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle

If Axxle is a substitute teacher I'm looking at you next.

vote: Axxle
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 05, 2014, 02:32:05 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle

If Axxle is a substitute teacher I'm looking at you next.

vote: Axxle

I'm just a student!  Axxle claimed third party, that's usually bad for the students.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on May 05, 2014, 02:42:27 pm
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/RoseD1/Maxine0003_zps26c14462.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 05, 2014, 03:09:47 pm
Are you playing Axxle and Allies?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 05, 2014, 03:13:19 pm
The Axxle of Evil?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 05, 2014, 03:15:57 pm
All my tshirts are of size Axxle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 05, 2014, 04:02:16 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle

If Axxle is a substitute teacher I'm looking at you next.

vote: Axxle

Oh gosh as of tomorrow, I'm a substitute teacher (no really, this is actually true IRL), but please don't vote me!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 07:10:26 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle

If Axxle is a substitute teacher I'm looking at you next.

vote: Axxle

Oh gosh as of tomorrow, I'm a substitute teacher (no really, this is actually true IRL), but please don't vote me!

A sub?  Dude, you're so screwed...

...or maybe kids in Britain aren't as troublesome as kids in the US?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 07:11:53 pm
Everything I know about British schools comes from Harry Potter (for secondary school) and Connie Willis's Fire Watch universe (for colleges).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 05, 2014, 07:20:00 pm
Everything I know about British schools comes from Harry Potter (for secondary school) and Connie Willis's Fire Watch universe (for colleges).

It's all true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 05, 2014, 08:52:31 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/aebd3fe929947c4bfe5aabd9acde868e/tumblr_n4zd4d99lc1ro5xweo1_400.gif)

I don't watch baseball.  Can someone explain what's happening here?

The post had this additional context:

"This double play was officially scored: 4-3-3-6-3-4-3-4-5-2."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 08:57:51 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/aebd3fe929947c4bfe5aabd9acde868e/tumblr_n4zd4d99lc1ro5xweo1_400.gif)

I don't watch baseball.  Can someone explain what's happening here?

The post had this additional context:

"This double play was officially scored: 4-3-3-6-3-4-3-4-5-2."

I can't tell from the gif exactly what's up, but the number notation at the bottom indicates who had the ball during the play, with 3 = 1st base, 4 = 2nd base, 5 = shortstop, 6 = 3rd base, and 2 = catcher.

I don't watch baseball either, but I'd love to see the video so I can tell what's going on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 05, 2014, 09:03:48 pm
I  can't tell exactly from the meme but there are two rundowns and I think the guy going for home is tagged out while the guy who was won first gets to to third. Maybe there were runners on first and second, somebody flied out and the runners tagged? There's probably a full video somewhere.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 05, 2014, 09:18:13 pm
My bad, SS is 6, with 3-4-5 for 1st, 2nd, 3rd bases.

I  can't tell exactly from the meme but there are two rundowns and I think the guy going for home is tagged out while the guy who was won first gets to to third. Maybe there were runners on first and second, somebody flied out and the runners tagged? There's probably a full video somewhere.

After doing a search it appears there were runners on first and second, the batter hit to second, second throws to first and tags the base to put the batter out (4-3).  Meanwhile, the runner on first has taken off for second; because the ball touched the ground, he didn't have to tag back to first.  So the first baseman throws to the shortstop near second (3-6) forcing the runner toward first, causing a back-and-forth between the first and second basemen (6-3-4-3-4).

And all of that was the runner on first distracting everyone from the runner on second making his way home, but the seocnd baseman realized what's up, throws to third base, who throws to the catcher, who tags out that runner (4-5-2).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 05, 2014, 09:19:06 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/aebd3fe929947c4bfe5aabd9acde868e/tumblr_n4zd4d99lc1ro5xweo1_400.gif)

I don't watch baseball.  Can someone explain what's happening here?

The post had this additional context:

"This double play was officially scored: 4-3-3-6-3-4-3-4-5-2."

I can't tell from the gif exactly what's up, but the number notation at the bottom indicates who had the ball during the play, with 3 = 1st base, 4 = 2nd base, 5 = shortstop, 6 = 3rd base, and 2 = catcher.

I don't watch baseball either, but I'd love to see the video so I can tell what's going on.

Actually, you switched 3rd base (5) and shortstop (6), but otherwise correct.

The first out of the double play was the batter being thrown out at first base after grounding it to the second baseman.  By getting the out at first base, there was no longer any force outs at subsequent bases.  From what I can tell, there were runners on first and second when the batter grounded out.  After the first baseman received the ball from the second baseman (4-3), they attempted to get the runner going from first to second out.  They caught him in a rundown that had the first baseman throwing the shortstop (covering second), then back to the first baseman, then on to the second baseman, then back to the first baseman again, and again to the second baseman (3-6-3-4-3-4).  At this point, the runner who was originally on second base had taken a big turn around third base thinking about trying to score, so the second baseman turned and fired the ball to third base in an attempt to get him out there (4-5).  The runner broke for home, chased by the third baseman, who tossed it to the catcher who applied to tag for the second out of the double play (5-2).

I think the scoring is incorrect.  It should have been a 4-3-6-3-4-3-4-5-2 double play (there's an extra 3 in the caption - you only put one number per touch of the ball, even if it was 4-3 and then 3-6; it would just be 4-3-6).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 05, 2014, 09:21:49 pm
Yeah. That.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 05, 2014, 09:29:38 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle

If Axxle is a substitute teacher I'm looking at you next.

vote: Axxle

Oh gosh as of tomorrow, I'm a substitute teacher (no really, this is actually true IRL), but please don't vote me!

A sub?  Dude, you're so screwed...
Should've been a dom.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 05, 2014, 09:33:41 pm
Yeah. That.

I don't know if all this helped me understand it at all. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 05, 2014, 09:36:03 pm
So here's an observation I've made from driving into Baltimore almost every week for the past ten years or so:

Without fail, the first person you see when driving into Baltimore will be a crackhead. Just try and prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 09:42:41 pm
So here's an observation I've made from driving into Baltimore almost every week for the past ten years or so:

Without fail, the first person you see when driving into Baltimore will be a crackhead. Just try and prove me wrong.

Maybe you shouldn't drive by the Mayor's first.

(Or was that D.C.?)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 05, 2014, 09:50:49 pm
That was DC. He also liked prostitutes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 05, 2014, 10:47:40 pm
That was DC. He also liked prostitutes.

Okay, but they're kind of close, and I wanted to make the joke, so let's just pretend it works.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on May 05, 2014, 10:54:44 pm
That was DC. He also liked prostitutes.

Okay, but they're kind of close, and I wanted to make the joke, so let's just pretend it works.

Its also Toronto. Although not anymore. But it was till last week.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on May 06, 2014, 12:51:42 am
Yeah. That.

I don't know if all this helped me understand it at all. :P

Here's what you need to know: what you saw was, even in context as a baseball fan, a fairly fun, silly, crazy, somewhat rare play.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 06, 2014, 01:50:34 am
I downloaded a Python library that could have been useful for a problem I had. I take a look in their documentation.

"It is safe to import everything from this library globally, because all variables start with msat_"

It turned out the library was entirely useless, which is good because I don't want to use a library where that's thought of as good style...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 06, 2014, 06:18:01 am
Python library

When I told a friend that I nearly died of lupin poisoning, he immediately sent me this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLkhx0eqK5w
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 06, 2014, 12:47:57 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle

If Axxle is a substitute teacher I'm looking at you next.

vote: Axxle

Oh gosh as of tomorrow, I'm a substitute teacher (no really, this is actually true IRL), but please don't vote me!

A sub?  Dude, you're so screwed...

...or maybe kids in Britain aren't as troublesome as kids in the US?

Depends on the kingdom school. The one I was at is kinda interesting - it's in a fairly deprived area of the city, so it gets a lot of intake of troublesome children, but that same area is also where a lot of students from the university live, and a moderate number stay in the area, have kids and they eventually go to this school, meaning you end up with some real troublemakers who just won't listen, and some kids who are exceptional.

As for my first day working, it went pretty well. I enjoyed it. I may or may not be back there tomorrow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 06, 2014, 01:18:03 pm
(http://i.lvme.me/qh93ssh.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 06, 2014, 01:39:06 pm
(http://i.lvme.me/qh93ssh.jpg)
None of the teachers at my school do that, they all just sit down and use PowerPoint presentations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 06, 2014, 03:27:42 pm
This stuff is totally not random.

Unicorns suck
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on May 06, 2014, 03:32:02 pm
Also:  How many college instructors do we have in this thread, anyway?  I count at least three specifically declared (me, Peebles, shraeye).  Anyone else?
Claim: third party, neither professor nor student

Vote: Axxle

If Axxle is a substitute teacher I'm looking at you next.

vote: Axxle

Oh gosh as of tomorrow, I'm a substitute teacher (no really, this is actually true IRL), but please don't vote me!

A sub?  Dude, you're so screwed...

...or maybe kids in Britain aren't as troublesome as kids in the US?

Depends on the kingdom school. The one I was at is kinda interesting - it's in a fairly deprived area of the city, so it gets a lot of intake of troublesome children, but that same area is also where a lot of students from the university live, and a moderate number stay in the area, have kids and they eventually go to this school, meaning you end up with some real troublemakers who just won't listen, and some kids who are exceptional.

As for my first day working, it went pretty well. I enjoyed it. I may or may not be back there tomorrow.
There was this adult-oriented cartoon show called Bromwell High. I'm guessing the school you subbed at was better than the school portrayed in that show.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on May 06, 2014, 03:38:39 pm
Can't be much worse than Sunnydale High.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 06, 2014, 03:49:38 pm
Or Class of Nuke 'Em High.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 06, 2014, 09:34:08 pm
Or Abbey Grove.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on May 06, 2014, 10:28:08 pm
Or Abbey Grove.
Just wanted to let you know you had 666 respect. Here, have a +1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 06, 2014, 10:29:51 pm
Or Abbey Grove.
Just wanted to let you know you had 666 respect. Here, have a +1.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 07, 2014, 07:48:19 am
 :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfR3aiUxSKc
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 07, 2014, 11:44:10 am
I think I'm just going to reply to innocuous statements with, "You're such a racist."

"I don't like drinking milk."
"You're such a racist."

"That asshole just cut me off."
"You're such a racist."

"I love discarding my opponent's Sea Hag with my own."
"You're such a racist."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 07, 2014, 11:49:31 am
I think I'm just going to reply to innocuous statements with, "You're such a racist."

"I don't like drinking milk."
"You're such a racist."

"That asshole just cut me off."
"You're such a racist."

"I love discarding my opponent's Sea Hag with my own."
"You're such a racist."

I'm going to append all of my statements with, "Is that racist?"

Is that racist?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 07, 2014, 11:53:42 am
Or Class of Nuke 'Em High.

Troma?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 07, 2014, 11:55:53 am
I think I'm just going to reply to innocuous statements with, "You're such a racist."

"I don't like drinking milk."
"You're such a racist."

"That a****** just cut me off."
"You're such a racist."

"I love discarding my opponent's Sea Hag with my own."
"You're such a racist."

I'm going to append all of my statements with, "Is that racist?"

Is that racist?

You're such a racist.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 07, 2014, 11:57:29 am
Anyone watch Silicon Valley?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 07, 2014, 12:08:40 pm
Or Class of Nuke 'Em High.

Troma?

Absolutely
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 07, 2014, 01:21:17 pm
With all the mathematicians around here, there's surely someone who can help me with a Latex problem. I'm trying to nicely put a quotient space into a lemma, but I have a hard time making that look nice. What I'm currently using is this:
Code: [Select]
\newcommand{\QR}[2]{
\raisebox{1ex}{\ensuremath{#1}}
\ensuremath{\mkern-3mu}\bigg/\ensuremath{\mkern-3mu}
\raisebox{-1ex}{\ensuremath{#2}}}
\begin{document}
Seien $W$ und $Z$ wegzusammenhängende Räume mit nichtdegerierten Basispunkten $w_0$ beziehungsweise $z_0$. Dann sind $\QR{\Sigma W \times Z}{\{w_0\}\times Z}$ und $\Sigma (W\vee(W\wedge Z))$ schwach homotopieäquivalent.
\end{document}
However, this causes an ugly looking larger distance between lines at this point, but I don't want to put it into it's own line either.
Any suggestions on how to make this visually appealing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 07, 2014, 02:53:53 pm
With all the mathematicians around here, there's surely someone who can help me with a Latex problem. I'm trying to nicely put a quotient space into a lemma, but I have a hard time making that look nice. What I'm currently using is this:
Code: [Select]
\newcommand{\QR}[2]{
\raisebox{1ex}{\ensuremath{#1}}
\ensuremath{\mkern-3mu}\bigg/\ensuremath{\mkern-3mu}
\raisebox{-1ex}{\ensuremath{#2}}}
\begin{document}
Seien $W$ und $Z$ wegzusammenhängende Räume mit nichtdegerierten Basispunkten $w_0$ beziehungsweise $z_0$. Dann sind $\QR{\Sigma W \times Z}{\{w_0\}\times Z}$ und $\Sigma (W\vee(W\wedge Z))$ schwach homotopieäquivalent.
\end{document}
However, this causes an ugly looking larger distance between lines at this point, but I don't want to put it into it's own line either.
Any suggestions on how to make this visually appealing?
Nichtdegeriert -> Nichtdegeneriert?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 07, 2014, 03:41:45 pm
Thanks, I actually did that twice in the document.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on May 07, 2014, 04:00:33 pm
I'd just use $(\Sigma W \times Z)/(\{w_0\}\times Z)$. You can even leave out the parentheses, the meaning should still be clear (technically it is ambiguous, but it was done in the lecture notes (http://www.math.ru.nl/~mgroth/teaching/htpy13/Section02.pdf) from which I learned homotopy theory, see e.g. Definition 9 and Example 10).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 07, 2014, 04:08:51 pm
Did you try the xfrac package?

Code: [Select]
\documentclass{minimal}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{xfrac}
\begin{document}
Seien $W$ und $Z$ wegzusammenhängende Räume mit nichtdegerierten Basispunkten $w_0$ beziehungsweise $z_0$. Dann sind $\sfrac{\Sigma W \times Z}{\{w_0\}\times Z}$ und $\Sigma (W\vee(W\wedge Z))$ schwach homotopieäquivalent.
\end{document}

Edit: Oh, the command is \sfrac{top}{bottom}
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on May 07, 2014, 04:33:31 pm
9:44 EDT 7.5lbs 20" 8.5hrs natural 0 complications
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 07, 2014, 04:36:09 pm
9:44 EDT 7.5lbs 20" 8.5hrs natural 0 complications

Brag board!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 07, 2014, 04:46:02 pm
9:44 EDT 7.5lbs 20" 8.5hrs natural 0 complications

Congratulations!
I knew you'd conquer that Big Burger Eating challenge finally!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 07, 2014, 04:47:04 pm
9:44 EDT 7.5lbs 20" 8.5hrs natural 0 complications

Nice!  That must have been one satisfying dump.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 07, 2014, 04:48:43 pm
I'd just use $(\Sigma W \times Z)/(\{w_0\}\times Z)$. You can even leave out the parentheses, the meaning should still be clear (technically it is ambiguous, but it was done in the lecture notes (http://www.math.ru.nl/~mgroth/teaching/htpy13/Section02.pdf) from which I learned homotopy theory, see e.g. Definition 9 and Example 10).
The author of the book I'm working with did this (without parentheses). It confused me to no end why he was collapsing single points.
I think I found a solution I like, going with
Code: [Select]
Dann besteht eine schwache Homotopieäquivalenz
\[\QR{\Sigma W\times Z}{\{w_0\}\times Z}\to\Sigma(W\vee(W\wedge Z)).\]
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 07, 2014, 04:57:37 pm
9:44 EDT 7.5lbs 20" 8.5hrs natural 0 complications
Wow! Right on time!
Baby is due May 7th.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 07, 2014, 04:59:36 pm
I'd just use $(\Sigma W \times Z)/(\{w_0\}\times Z)$. You can even leave out the parentheses, the meaning should still be clear (technically it is ambiguous, but it was done in the lecture notes (http://www.math.ru.nl/~mgroth/teaching/htpy13/Section02.pdf) from which I learned homotopy theory, see e.g. Definition 9 and Example 10).
The author of the book I'm working with did this (without parentheses). It confused me to no end why he was collapsing single points.
I think I found a solution I like, going with
Code: [Select]
Dann besteht eine schwache Homotopieäquivalenz
\[\QR{\Sigma W\times Z}{\{w_0\}\times Z}\to\Sigma(W\vee(W\wedge Z)).\]

There are also \mathlarger{} and \mathsmaller{} commands in the relsize package.  And they stack.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 07, 2014, 05:16:41 pm
9:44 EDT 7.5lbs 20" 8.5hrs natural 0 complications


Congrats!  Is this your first? If so, I will quietly seethe in my wife's stead (our oldest was a 20+ hour labor.)

Also, very brave going natural!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 07, 2014, 05:25:06 pm
Utah: where you can have all 4 seasons in one day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 07, 2014, 05:37:07 pm
Utah: where you can have all 4 seasons in one day.

There are 4 seasons?  I only know of 2.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 07, 2014, 05:40:05 pm
So I recently read this post:

That being said, I wouldn't expect it to be implemented quickly, assuming it's more on the order of Black Market and Stash (rather than Envoy, Walled Village, and Governor). Basically, if it needs a new interface to do its thing, I expect it to take awhile.
Here's a secret about the promo that perhaps it's time to reveal:

LastFootnote playtested the promo.

After upvoting it I noticed it had two respect. I decided to check who did upvote it, and was somehow surprised to see my name there.

Wow Tables. Nice job.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 07, 2014, 06:13:53 pm
http://benjaminlmoore.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/most-common-rng-seeds-r-github/

Perfect for this thread:  A blog post I randomly found about the seeds programmers random use for their pseudo-random number generators.  (Spoiler:  Everyone just uses 1.  Seems legit.)

Aside:  In the far past when I've done programming and needed random, I usually seeded using microtime().  Anyone else do some variant of that?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 07, 2014, 06:30:44 pm
Utah: where you can have all 4 seasons in one day.

There are 4 seasons?  I only know of 2.

Eh, Utah really slowed down around season 3, season 4 isn't even worth watching
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 07, 2014, 06:43:26 pm
It's always nice to finally understand why something I knew was true.  For instance, I learned a while ago that e^(i*pi) is equal to -1, but I never knew why.  In a calculus textbook I was reading, he went off on a random tangent (not a sine (but now I might be going off on a cotangent mentioning this)) about imaginary exponents, and I realized what was going on while it was happening.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on May 07, 2014, 07:29:08 pm
http://benjaminlmoore.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/most-common-rng-seeds-r-github/

Perfect for this thread:  A blog post I randomly found about the seeds programmers random use for their pseudo-random number generators.  (Spoiler:  Everyone just uses 1.  Seems legit.)

Aside:  In the far past when I've done programming and needed random, I usually seeded using microtime().  Anyone else do some variant of that?
If it's something I'm going to have to debug, I set the seed to something recognisable but unusual - like a few digits of pi, or a nice big power of 2 - so that I can rule out unusual results from the RNG fairly early on as a potential source of error. Then I will sometimes drop the seed for production runs, although not always because I'm lazy like that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 07, 2014, 07:30:08 pm
Utah: where you can have all 4 seasons in one day.

There are 4 seasons?  I only know of 2.

Eh, Utah really slowed down around season 3, season 4 isn't even worth watching

Canada has Winter and Road Construction.  After that it's just been re-runs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on May 07, 2014, 07:32:17 pm
It's always nice to finally understand why something I knew was true.  For instance, I learned a while ago that e^(i*pi) is equal to -1, but I never knew why.  In a calculus textbook I was reading, he went off on a random tangent (not a sine (but now I might be going off on a cotangent mentioning this)) about imaginary exponents, and I realized what was going on while it was happening.

And now you know why all of those trigonometry formulae work too!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 07, 2014, 07:37:14 pm
It's always nice to finally understand why something I knew was true.  For instance, I learned a while ago that e^(i*pi) is equal to -1, but I never knew why.  In a calculus textbook I was reading, he went off on a random tangent (not a sine (but now I might be going off on a cotangent mentioning this)) about imaginary exponents, and I realized what was going on while it was happening.

And now you know why all of those trigonometry formulae work too!

I hate teaching trig in classes that don't yet have Euler's formula.  Well, that's not true; I still enjoy trig.  But it is so much more elegant with Euler's formula.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 07, 2014, 07:38:10 pm
It's always nice to finally understand why something I knew was true.  For instance, I learned a while ago that e^(i*pi) is equal to -1, but I never knew why.  In a calculus textbook I was reading, he went off on a random tangent (not a sine (but now I might be going off on a cotangent mentioning this)) about imaginary exponents, and I realized what was going on while it was happening.
I think that's a big reason people don't like math early on, everything just seems so arbitrary. It's when you get into the reasons behind why formulas work the way they work when it clicks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 07, 2014, 07:47:32 pm
It's always nice to finally understand why something I knew was true.  For instance, I learned a while ago that e^(i*pi) is equal to -1, but I never knew why.  In a calculus textbook I was reading, he went off on a random tangent (not a sine (but now I might be going off on a cotangent mentioning this)) about imaginary exponents, and I realized what was going on while it was happening.

And now you know why all of those trigonometry formulae work too!

I hate teaching trig in classes that don't yet have Euler's formula.  Well, that's not true; I still enjoy trig.  But it is so much more elegant with Euler's formula.

Even without Euler's formula, I enjoyed trig because the teacher used the unit circle and explained, for instance, that the value of the tangent is called that because it's the length of an actual tangent line.  It blew my mind (and then, of course, Euler's formula blew my mind later.)

Edit:  Oh, and then the idea that both of these were related to AC circuits and that we can treat capacitance and inductance as imaginary resistance really blew my mind.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on May 07, 2014, 07:53:14 pm
Can you elaborate on the tangent being the length of some tangent line?
I haven't heard of that and am quite intrigued to hear.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 07, 2014, 08:01:41 pm
Can you elaborate on the tangent being the length of some tangent line?
I haven't heard of that and am quite intrigued to hear.

Draw a unit circle and an angle (say, in the first quadrant) in the standard way, draw the tangent to the circle at the obvious point, and look at the length of the line segment joining the unit circle to the x-axis.  It is the tangent of the original angle.

edit:  by the way, it is just a one line proof by considering similar triangles, since the tangent is perpendicular to the radius.  Also, the length of segment joining the unit circle to the y-axis is the cotangent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on May 07, 2014, 08:12:56 pm
Can you elaborate on the tangent being the length of some tangent line?
I haven't heard of that and am quite intrigued to hear.

Draw a unit circle and an angle (say, in the first quadrant) in the standard way, draw the tangent to the circle at the obvious point, and look at the length of the line segment joining the unit circle to the x-axis.  It is the tangent of the original angle.

You can get the result by looking at similar triangles. Sin/Cos must be the same as that length/the radius of the circle (1).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 07, 2014, 08:20:48 pm
(http://www.mathnstuff.com/math/spoken/here/2class/330/gif/pyth4x.gif)

The tangent and cotangent are both segments tangent to the circle; the secant and cosecant are both segments secant to the circle.

Note this diagram also shows all the Pythagorean identities.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on May 07, 2014, 08:40:56 pm
(http://www.mathnstuff.com/math/spoken/here/2class/330/gif/pyth4x.gif)

The tangent and cotangent are both segments tangent to the circle; the secant and cosecant are both segments secant to the circle.

Note this diagram also shows all the Pythagorean identities.

Wait, that isn't even the line segment I was talking about for tangent. The one from the point-of-interest to the x-axis tangent to the circle is also tangent, isn't it?

This is an awesome diagram though. I like how it shows all of the identities.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 07, 2014, 09:19:22 pm
(http://www.mathnstuff.com/math/spoken/here/2class/330/gif/pyth4x.gif)

The tangent and cotangent are both segments tangent to the circle; the secant and cosecant are both segments secant to the circle.

Note this diagram also shows all the Pythagorean identities.

Wait, that isn't even the line segment I was talking about for tangent. The one from the point-of-interest to the x-axis tangent to the circle is also tangent, isn't it?

The triangle made here and the triangle you describe are congruent, so yes.

And I agree, that's an amazing diagram.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 07, 2014, 11:37:22 pm
Did you try the xfrac package?

You made that word up, or stole it from Battlestar Galactica or something.  That's not a real think you can do to a package.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 08, 2014, 12:00:35 am
Did you try the xfrac package?

You made that word up, or stole it from Battlestar Galactica or something.  That's not a real think you can do to a package.

My wife does that to my package all the time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on May 08, 2014, 04:04:45 am
http://benjaminlmoore.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/most-common-rng-seeds-r-github/

Perfect for this thread:  A blog post I randomly found about the seeds programmers random use for their pseudo-random number generators.  (Spoiler:  Everyone just uses 1.  Seems legit.)

Aside:  In the far past when I've done programming and needed random, I usually seeded using microtime().  Anyone else do some variant of that?

I have a large book of BASIC program listings.  They typically start with the the enigmatic

Code: [Select]
RANDOMIZE TIME
and then, a few lines later

Code: [Select]
WHILE NOT FINISHED
(making use of the fact that undeclared variables default to 0.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 08, 2014, 02:59:18 pm
Wait, that isn't even the line segment I was talking about for tangent. The one from the point-of-interest to the x-axis tangent to the circle is also tangent, isn't it?

This is an awesome diagram though. I like how it shows all of the identities.

You might prefer a coordinate-free description.  Just draw a unit circle (or any circle, and use the radius as your unit of measurement for lengths).  Then draw two rays coming out from the center where they meet at some angle.  Each of these rays meets the circle at one point; choose either one of them and draw the tangent line to the circle through that point.  The tangent line has a bounded segment between the two rays, and the length of this segment is the tangent of the angle.

Kirian's diagram and the one you envision differ only by which of the two points you drew the tangent line through.  They are of course equivalent by symmetry.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 08, 2014, 03:50:44 pm
This is the city of Masada, located in modern-day Israel:

(http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/travel/201201046880/masada-fortress-israel-judean-desert/0-30-748/a_AEP-PBS08-03-15-11-5362-a.jpg)

See that massive earthen wedge there on the side of the cliff? The Romans BUILT that so they could assault the mountain fortress. Frikkin Romans, they're like ants!

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on May 08, 2014, 03:55:07 pm
Just draw a unit circle (or any circle, and use the radius as your unit of measurement for lengths).
isn't that just the definition of the unit circle - that the radius is your unit of measurement?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 08, 2014, 03:57:34 pm
Just draw a unit circle (or any circle, and use the radius as your unit of measurement for lengths).
isn't that just the definition of the unit circle - that the radius is your unit of measurement?

More or less.  I just wanted to emphasize that the unit circle isn't some special circle; any circle is a unit circle with the right units.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on May 08, 2014, 05:30:22 pm
Wait, that isn't even the line segment I was talking about for tangent. The one from the point-of-interest to the x-axis tangent to the circle is also tangent, isn't it?

This is an awesome diagram though. I like how it shows all of the identities.

You might prefer a coordinate-free description.  Just draw a unit circle (or any circle, and use the radius as your unit of measurement for lengths).  Then draw two rays coming out from the center where they meet at some angle.  Each of these rays meets the circle at one point; choose either one of them and draw the tangent line to the circle through that point.  The tangent line has a bounded segment between the two rays, and the length of this segment is the tangent of the angle.

Kirian's diagram and the one you envision differ only by which of the two points you drew the tangent line through.  They are of course equivalent by symmetry.

oh. duh. thanks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 09, 2014, 05:37:45 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/1aadca97fb8d64b42e4fb9d5a9cf248b/tumblr_n5bon1CA0k1qcn4i6o1_500.png)

Science is scary.

More correlations here. (http://tylervigen.com/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 09, 2014, 05:40:14 pm
I'm surprised so many people died by getting tangled in their bedsheets.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 09, 2014, 05:57:32 pm
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 09, 2014, 06:01:54 pm
Must have made Empire Strikes Back a little less impressive in the Netherlands, then.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 09, 2014, 06:17:17 pm
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.
were you watching pitch perfect?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 09, 2014, 06:22:07 pm
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.
were you watching pitch perfect?

Nope.  I don't know what that is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 09, 2014, 06:22:49 pm
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.
were you watching pitch perfect?

Nope.  I don't know what that is.
a movie. they mention that fact in it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on May 09, 2014, 06:30:59 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/1aadca97fb8d64b42e4fb9d5a9cf248b/tumblr_n5bon1CA0k1qcn4i6o1_500.png)

Science is scary.

More correlations here. (http://tylervigen.com/)

Some of these make a lot of sense:

Industrial Manufacturing Doctorates Awarded vs Per capita consumption of mozarella cheese
  -Those PhD students need paninis to survive

Per capita consumption of margarine vs Murders by bodily force
  -No one consumes margarine willingly, hence the desire to get rid of whoever is forcing you to do so

Aggregate worldwide income for petrolium companies vs Total revenue generated by golf courses
  -Only rich people play golf

Economic doctorates awarded vs People who died by falling out of their bed
  -Dirty conscience doesn't let you sleep well

Number of people killed by misusing a lawnmower vs Cost for 16oz of potato chips
  -Hypoglycemia

Worldwide non-commercial space launches vs Sociology doctorates awarded
  -Some people would rather leave the planet than having to listen to certain conversations

I notice that this site really likes marriages, bees, precipitations, and falling from places, but I don't see the correlation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Joseph2302 on May 09, 2014, 07:28:49 pm
I got my nails painted for the first time today :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 10, 2014, 04:43:37 am
I got my nails painted for the first time today :)

And by two girls together, no less.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 10, 2014, 07:28:36 am
I got my nails painted for the first time today :)

And by two girls together, no less.

This is how it always happens, in my experience.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on May 10, 2014, 11:05:38 am
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.

Which brings the question : how the hell did people not figure this out back then ? Well maybe they did ? I mean anyone speaking Dutch or German (Vater) should have seen it coming.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 10, 2014, 11:09:45 am
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.

Which brings the question : how the hell did people not figure this out back then ? Well maybe they did ? I mean anyone speaking Dutch or German (Vater) should have seen it coming.
pronounced differently. "Both the Dutch 'vader' and the German 'Vater' are pronounced with the 'a' as in 'far', instead of the 'a' as in 'later'."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 10, 2014, 11:11:54 am
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.

Which brings the question : how the hell did people not figure this out back then ? Well maybe they did ? I mean anyone speaking Dutch or German (Vater) should have seen it coming.
pronounced differently. "Both the Dutch 'vader' and the German 'Vater' are pronounced with the 'a' as in 'far', instead of the 'a' as in 'later'."
also the V is more prounounced like in "father" instead like in "Vader". (at least in German, not sure about the Dutch. I would guess it's a bit inbetween for Dutch)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 10, 2014, 11:20:26 am
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.

Which brings the question : how the hell did people not figure this out back then ? Well maybe they did ? I mean anyone speaking Dutch or German (Vater) should have seen it coming.
pronounced differently. "Both the Dutch 'vader' and the German 'Vater' are pronounced with the 'a' as in 'far', instead of the 'a' as in 'later'."
also the V is more prounounced like in "father" instead like in "Vader". (at least in German, not sure about the Dutch. I would guess it's a bit inbetween for Dutch)
It sounds like F in Heidevolk songs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on May 10, 2014, 11:37:06 am
Today I learned that vader is Dutch for father.  As in, Darth Vader.

Which brings the question : how the hell did people not figure this out back then ? Well maybe they did ? I mean anyone speaking Dutch or German (Vater) should have seen it coming.
pronounced differently. "Both the Dutch 'vader' and the German 'Vater' are pronounced with the 'a' as in 'far', instead of the 'a' as in 'later'."
also the V is more prounounced like in "father" instead like in "Vader". (at least in German, not sure about the Dutch. I would guess it's a bit inbetween for Dutch)

Well I don't know how the German dub of the movie pronounced it, but if you're German, don't speak English and read "Darth Vader" you'll read it as (phonetically) "Fader", which sounds a lot like "Vater".

But it's entirely possible the German dub used a different name I guess. In France, he's called Dark Vador, for some reason.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 10, 2014, 11:48:24 am
Even if he were called Dark Father, it still wouldn't necessarily imply that he is Luke's father.  It could have just been his title in the old religion or within the imperial forces.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 10, 2014, 11:49:04 am
But it's entirely possible the German dub used a different name I guess. In France, he's called Dark Vador, for some reason.

It's the same as in the original, with same pronounciation...
:e except that Obi Wan has some problems with the th and calls him Dars...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 11, 2014, 02:32:04 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEISiCmjwH8
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on May 11, 2014, 05:09:35 am
I got my nails painted for the first time today :)

And by two girls together, no less.

This is how it always happens, in my experience.

I've had my nails painted by girls like... A half time? I usually paint them myself. I've been painting my nails for more than a year now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 11, 2014, 12:37:56 pm
Do you need a special hammer so as not to damage the painted nails, or do you only paint nails after they've been hammered in?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on May 11, 2014, 01:17:34 pm
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Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 11, 2014, 01:48:48 pm
Guys I need help. I'm playing at a mother's day brunch with a ridiculous buffet and I can't stop eating! Ohhh cheesecake!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 11, 2014, 01:59:26 pm
Guys I need help. I'm playing at a mother's day brunch with a ridiculous buffet and I can't stop eating! Ohhh cheesecake!

Think of the cows!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on May 11, 2014, 02:16:39 pm
Guys I need help. I'm playing at a mother's day brunch with a ridiculous buffet and I can't stop eating! Ohhh cheesecake!

Think of the cows!

Think of the children!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 11, 2014, 02:37:07 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 11, 2014, 03:53:25 pm
Long term cookie goal accomplished :)

(http://i.imgur.com/0IDDOeX.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 11, 2014, 03:56:55 pm
Long term cookie goal accomplished :)

(http://i.imgur.com/0IDDOeX.png)

You are officially nerdier than I had previously thought.  Well done!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 11, 2014, 04:17:30 pm
Long term cookie goal accomplished :)

You are officially nerdier than I had previously thought.  Well done!

(http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8013/6967641276_1297c426a0.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 11, 2014, 04:21:20 pm
What's special about that number?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 11, 2014, 04:26:29 pm
What's special about that number?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avogadro_constant
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 11, 2014, 09:13:28 pm
Guys I need help. I'm playing at a mother's day brunch with a ridiculous buffet and I can't stop eating! Ohhh cheesecake!

Think of the cows!

I'm sure a lot of mothers have svelte figures. And even if they don't, calling them names isn't nice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 12, 2014, 02:25:23 pm
What's special about that number?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvxe04wGmTw
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 12, 2014, 02:56:03 pm
What's special about that number?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avogadro_constant

Ahhh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 12, 2014, 03:44:43 pm
Quick story:

I was traveling across the country recently and my phone completely died. I was in Akron OH when I decided to walk into some ghetto ass used phone store and overpay for a Droid Razr Maxx. That night I try to activate it and it doesn't work no matter what Verizon tries. The next day is Easter so I can't return the phone and I'm also leaving town so I'm stuck with this broken phone. The day after that I call the place and they tell me to send them the phone and they'll send a new one back, so I do it. Almost a month later, I still don't have that replacement phone. So I called Chase today and told them this story and they gave me all my money back. So in conclusion, fuck you Akron and your dumbass phone scams! I'm gonna go eat a sandwich.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on May 12, 2014, 06:27:18 pm
Quick story:

I was traveling across the country recently and my phone completely died. I was in Akron OH when I decided to walk into some ghetto ass used phone store and overpay for a Droid Razr Maxx. That night I try to activate it and it doesn't work no matter what Verizon tries. The next day is Easter so I can't return the phone and I'm also leaving town so I'm stuck with this broken phone. The day after that I call the place and they tell me to send them the phone and they'll send a new one back, so I do it. Almost a month later, I still don't have that replacement phone. So I called Chase today and told them this story and they gave me all my money back. So in conclusion, fuck you Akron and your dumbass phone scams! I'm gonna go eat a sandwich.

Cool story bro, tell it again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 12, 2014, 06:31:09 pm
OK!

Quick story:

I was traveling across the country recently and my phone completely died. I was in Akron OH when I decided to walk into some ghetto ass used phone store and overpay for a Droid Razr Maxx. That night I try to activate it and it doesn't work no matter what Verizon tries. The next day is Easter so I can't return the phone and I'm also leaving town so I'm stuck with this broken phone. The day after that I call the place and they tell me to send them the phone and they'll send a new one back, so I do it. Almost a month later, I still don't have that replacement phone. So I called Chase today and told them this story and they gave me all my money back. So in conclusion, fuck you Akron and your dumbass phone scams! I'm gonna go eat a sandwich.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 12, 2014, 09:59:44 pm
I walked into a screen door today.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 12, 2014, 11:07:48 pm
OK!

Quick story:

I was traveling across the country recently and my phone completely died. I was in Akron OH when I decided to walk into some ghetto ass used phone store and overpay for a Droid Razr Maxx. That night I try to activate it and it doesn't work no matter what Verizon tries. The next day is Easter so I can't return the phone and I'm also leaving town so I'm stuck with this broken phone. The day after that I call the place and they tell me to send them the phone and they'll send a new one back, so I do it. Almost a month later, I still don't have that replacement phone. So I called Chase today and told them this story and they gave me all my money back. So in conclusion, fuck you Akron and your dumbass phone scams! I'm gonna go eat a sandwich.

(http://www.nataliedee.com/052005/ohio.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 12, 2014, 11:44:16 pm
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 13, 2014, 01:39:25 am
At a rehearsal today, I tripped on my own house.  It was the most spectacular trip ever, as it was big, loud, and didn't hurt a bit.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 13, 2014, 02:24:29 am
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!

Disable it, please. I'm THIS CLOSE to hacking your everything but your stupid computer security is stopping my attempts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 13, 2014, 02:45:31 am
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!

Disable it, please. I'm THIS CLOSE to hacking your everything but your stupid computer security is stopping my attempts.

Quote from: bitchchecker
> ich hab kein bock so zu hacken wenn der wie ein mädchen sich fire wall versteckt
> elch mach deine scheis wall aus!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 13, 2014, 08:33:51 am
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!

M-E-S-S W-I-T-H T-H-E B-E-S-T
D-I-E L-I-K-E T-H-E R-E-S-T
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 13, 2014, 10:18:20 am
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!

M-E-S-S W-I-T-H T-H-E B-E-S-T
D-I-E L-I-K-E T-H-E R-E-S-T

What is that from? Hackers?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 10:20:44 am
So, I've come into work today and the workmen in town have cut through out fibre optic cables. The whole network for our offices are out. Plus they also cut through a gas main so it won't be fixed any time soon.

So I have dispatched my team to the disaster recovery sites and am now sitting here in an empty office with poor phone signal and no internet connections

I am going slightly mad.

I may wander round other teams sections and write things on their whiteboards....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on May 13, 2014, 10:26:32 am
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!

M-E-S-S W-I-T-H T-H-E B-E-S-T
D-I-E L-I-K-E T-H-E R-E-S-T

What is that from? Hackers?
It's from Hackers, but written like this it'S
http://xkcd.com/1337/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 13, 2014, 10:46:58 am
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!

M-E-S-S W-I-T-H T-H-E B-E-S-T
D-I-E L-I-K-E T-H-E R-E-S-T

What is that from? Hackers?
It's from Hackers, but written like this it'S
http://xkcd.com/1337/

Yep, a little of both.  Such an awful movie.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 13, 2014, 11:20:23 am
Okay in the past 5 minutes my computer security system has blocked over three dozen "intrusion attempts." All I have open online are this, goko, quicktopic, wikipedia, mafiascum wiki, gmail, google drive, and a document. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!

M-E-S-S W-I-T-H T-H-E B-E-S-T
D-I-E L-I-K-E T-H-E R-E-S-T

What is that from? Hackers?
It's from Hackers, but written like this it'S
http://xkcd.com/1337/

Yep, a little of both.  Such an awful movie.

I just remembered that one dude is the same dude who was the boyfriend dude in She's All That! Dude!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on May 13, 2014, 12:53:20 pm
So I have dispatched my team to the disaster recovery sites and am now sitting here in an empty office with poor phone signal and no internet connections

Wait a minute...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 13, 2014, 02:54:29 pm
Can I talk about Dominion in this thread?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 13, 2014, 02:59:53 pm
Can I talk about Dominion in this thread?

Depends on the board.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on May 13, 2014, 03:07:29 pm
So I have dispatched my team to the disaster recovery sites and am now sitting here in an empty office with poor phone signal and no internet connections

Wait a minute...

I set up a special database connection to Ozle's brain recently, so he doesn't need Internet in order to access the forum.  In fact, most of these posts are just imagined thoughts in his head.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 13, 2014, 03:12:20 pm
Ozle is like Johnny Depp basically
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 04:12:37 pm
So I have dispatched my team to the disaster recovery sites and am now sitting here in an empty office with poor phone signal and no internet connections

Wait a minute...

I set up a special database connection to Ozle's brain recently, so he doesn't need Internet in order to access the forum.  In fact, most of these posts are just imagined thoughts in his head.


Preposterous rubbish, that's clearly not possible
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 04:13:14 pm
I hate that Theory, he is such a douche
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 13, 2014, 04:56:26 pm
I've always been under the assumption that Ozle and f.ds are the same entity.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 13, 2014, 05:10:24 pm
I've always been under the assumption that Ozle and f.ds are the same entity.

SkyNet would have taken over the world by now, but we've kept it trapped in this little forum thinking continuously about Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 05:22:39 pm
I've always been under the assumption that Ozle and f.ds are the same entity.

Except for that time I went away for several months and everything carried on as normal, albeit a bit more peacefully!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 05:23:22 pm
I've always been under the assumption that Ozle and f.ds are the same entity.

SkyNet would have taken over the world by now, but we've kept it trapped in this little forum thinking continuously about Dominion.

Except for that time I went away for a few months and was wiping the NSA files
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mcmcsalot on May 13, 2014, 05:41:26 pm
This thread has +1s!!! I have some much retroactive respect to dishout for posts here that have made me crack up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 05:45:22 pm
Ozle is like Johnny Depp basically

Yeah, in the edward scissorhands days though unfortunately!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 13, 2014, 05:50:34 pm
Ozle is like Johnny Depp basically

Yeah, in the edward scissorhands days though unfortunately!
Ah, thought it was a hint you were Celestial Chameleon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1192628/).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 05:50:45 pm
At a rehearsal today, I tripped on my own house.  It was the most spectacular trip ever, as it was big, loud, and didn't hurt a bit.

Im not surprised it was spectacular if you tripped over a house!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 13, 2014, 05:51:46 pm
Ozle is like Johnny Depp basically

Yeah, in the edward scissorhands days though unfortunately!
Ah, thought it was a hint you were Celestial Chameleon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1192628/).

Haha, probably the one person ive never claimed to be, he is like the anti-ozle with his dominion knowledge and his logic and clevery stuff
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 13, 2014, 07:04:29 pm
I just watched Heart String Marionette. It was amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on May 13, 2014, 10:11:16 pm
So, what Internet browsers do you guys use? This is being posted on Opera Coast, which is a really cool and somewhat different browser for mobile devices (iOS only, sorry Android). I use Opera on PC when I can, otherwise Firefox (though I hate the redesign), then Chrome. On Mac I'll just use Safari.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on May 13, 2014, 10:48:02 pm
So, what Internet browsers do you guys use? This is being posted on Opera Coast, which is a really cool and somewhat different browser for mobile devices (iOS only, sorry Android). I use Opera on PC when I can, otherwise Firefox (though I hate the redesign), then Chrome. On Mac I'll just use Safari.
I usually use Firefox and then Chrome if Firefox isn't available. And then Safari on iOS. I usually don't care, but I've clicked on Firefox so often that it has slowly grown to become my default browser.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on May 14, 2014, 12:02:49 am
Chrome. Most of the browsers now have the features that Chrome has, but it works well with my gmail and stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on May 14, 2014, 12:08:07 am
Chrome. Most of the browsers now have the features that Chrome has, but it works well with my gmail and stuff.
This.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 14, 2014, 12:11:01 am
What's worse, that I've never seen an episode of Breaking Bad or that I really want to see the new Godzilla with that guy from Breaking Bad?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 14, 2014, 02:42:37 am
What's worse, that I've never seen an episode of Breaking Bad or that I really want to see the new Godzilla with that guy from Breaking Bad?

He'll always be Hal to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 14, 2014, 06:28:50 am
So, what Internet browsers do you guys use? This is being posted on Opera Coast, which is a really cool and somewhat different browser for mobile devices (iOS only, sorry Android). I use Opera on PC when I can, otherwise Firefox (though I hate the redesign), then Chrome. On Mac I'll just use Safari.
Opera 12 for most stuff, Chrome for whatever doesn't work on Opera, Firefox for stuff that needs add-ons that only exist for Firefox and sometimes TOR browser for various reasons.

EDIT: When I'm not at home, I'll use whatever browser is available, preferring Chrome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 14, 2014, 12:50:17 pm
Internet Explorer.






lol jk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 14, 2014, 02:14:54 pm
At a rehearsal today, I tripped on my own house.  It was the most spectacular trip ever, as it was big, loud, and didn't hurt a bit.

Im not surprised it was spectacular if you tripped over a house!

It was a set.

Also, I use Chrome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 14, 2014, 02:36:41 pm
Internet Explorer.






lol jk


One of our government clients still uses IE 6....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 14, 2014, 05:31:55 pm
Oh I forgot to post here. I'm in the studio now playing drums live for another 30 mins. WPFW 89.3.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 14, 2014, 05:57:38 pm
What's the most unusual tune you can play on the drums?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 14, 2014, 05:59:25 pm
Is this legit? (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903107259/scio-your-sixth-sense-a-pocket-molecular-sensor-fo)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 14, 2014, 06:09:37 pm
What's the most unusual tune you can play on the drums?
Probably this (or another oraalid0nitsi song):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJ0bWtxRvY

Just download that to your mobile phone, place it on your drums and press the play button.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 14, 2014, 06:10:12 pm
What intrigues me more are who are these people that pledge for branded tshirts but not the product?

Its not as if the project needs thier money to suceed.

The $1 i can understand, that gets you exclusive  updates, but $35 for what essentially will be a fruit of the loom white tshirt with a name written on..
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 14, 2014, 06:10:47 pm
What's the most unusual tune you can play on the drums?
Probably this (or another oraalid0nitsi song):


Just download that to your mobile phone, place it on your drums and press the play button.


I dont have any drums, will placing it on my Recorder have the same effect?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 14, 2014, 06:11:54 pm
What's the most unusual tune you can play on the drums?
Probably this (or another oraalid0nitsi song):


Just download that to your mobile phone, place it on your drums and press the play button.


I dont have any drums, will placing it on my Recorder have the same effect?
Then it's the most unusual tune you can play on your recorder.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 14, 2014, 06:18:15 pm
What's the most unusual tune you can play on the drums?
Probably this (or another oraalid0nitsi song):


Just download that to your mobile phone, place it on your drums and press the play button.


I dont have any drums, will placing it on my Recorder have the same effect?
Then it's the most unusual tune you can play on your recorder.

No, the most unusual tune i can play on my recorder is Everybod is free to wear Sunscreen by Baz Lurman
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 14, 2014, 07:10:41 pm
(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10369892_10152117896816977_8076116512130125332_n.jpg)

Well this is happening near me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 14, 2014, 07:19:49 pm
Well this is happening near me.

WTF?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 14, 2014, 07:32:37 pm
Well this is happening near me.

WTF?
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Brush-Fire-Carlsbad-Palomar-Airport-San-Diego-Cal-Fire-259251301.html

I live in San Diego. The fires aren't too near downtown where I'm at but they're still destroying people's homes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 14, 2014, 08:46:28 pm
Holy crap.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cat-saves-boy-vicious-dog-attack-article-1.1791876

I'm not usually a cat guy, but give that one a medal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 14, 2014, 09:54:56 pm
Well this is happening near me.

WTF?
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Brush-Fire-Carlsbad-Palomar-Airport-San-Diego-Cal-Fire-259251301.html

I live in San Diego. The fires aren't too near downtown where I'm at but they're still destroying people's homes.

Oh dear.  Stay safe!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 15, 2014, 10:27:53 am
Holy crap.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cat-saves-boy-vicious-dog-attack-article-1.1791876

I'm not usually a cat guy, but give that one a medal.

My first thought is that that Doberman sure looks a lot like a cat.

I don't even understand what could have caused the dog attack. It looks like it was just being a dick.

Not that I want pets to be put down, but if a dog that is not being threatened and not in its territory latches onto a kid and shakes its head with the intent of damage, then I don't see any choice in the matter. I guess the owners can ensure that the dog always stays inside, but that dog is just an asshole. Then again, I've heard of rehabilitation for dogs trained for fighting, so maybe putting down the dog is not the only answer.

But I hope the owners are found and held accountable. And if it's a stray, I hope it's captured.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 15, 2014, 12:15:29 pm
When I read the article last night, it said that the dog was under voluntary observation at Animal Control. Looks like it's been updated - the dog is getting euthanised. It did belong to a neighbour.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 15, 2014, 01:57:11 pm
I got attacked by a dog once.  After it biting me three times, I finally managed to grab its collar and it calmed down.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 15, 2014, 02:25:24 pm
I have gotten attacked by mosquitoes!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 15, 2014, 02:32:34 pm
I once got attacked by duck billed platypussii
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 15, 2014, 03:13:07 pm
I have gotten attacked by Masquerade, Possession, and Tribute.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 15, 2014, 03:30:43 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/c7b8bc816a275c99c98cef66aa24956f/tumblr_n4if3q1XWp1qdlh1io1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 15, 2014, 03:58:01 pm
Panda dogs are a thing.

(http://egotvonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/panda-dog-pic-getty-774983705.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 15, 2014, 04:02:09 pm
That panda dog has seen some things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 15, 2014, 07:04:33 pm
Panda dogs are a thing.

(http://egotvonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/panda-dog-pic-getty-774983705.jpg)

You have to return a friendly minion to your hand when you take it for a walk.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 16, 2014, 06:13:04 pm
Too bad I can't ask you guys to come see the musical I'm in now...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 16, 2014, 06:33:05 pm
Panda dogs are a thing.

(http://egotvonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/panda-dog-pic-getty-774983705.jpg)

My girlfriend thinks this is cute. I think it's an abomination.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 16, 2014, 07:05:19 pm
Too bad I can't ask you guys to come see the musical I'm in now...

Post a video!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 16, 2014, 08:10:24 pm
Too bad I can't ask you guys to come see the musical I'm in now...

Musical?  You don't even have a mouth.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 16, 2014, 08:20:24 pm
Too bad I can't ask you guys to come see the musical I'm in now...

Musical?  You don't even have a mouth.
I don't know how he does it, but according to the song, he can laugh, so probably singing is possible too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 17, 2014, 11:42:00 am
Too bad I can't ask you guys to come see the musical I'm in now...

Post a video!

That's against the rules...  And I don't know where to get a video anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 18, 2014, 09:02:38 am
(http://i.imgur.com/GKjCqzM.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 18, 2014, 07:15:35 pm
Within this last week, my phone started crapping out.  The screen would spontaneously go black and it would repeatedly vibrate on pulse.  Eventually, it would restart.  This started happening with increasing frequency.  This prompted me to go get a new phone, which I had been thinking about lately anyway.  The old one doesn't seem to want to run for more than 5 minutes before it restarts again.  Still not sure what's wrong with it... my best guess is that the battery doesn't sit right anymore.

But anyway, new phone!  S5!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 19, 2014, 04:42:35 am
How we compare explosions got revolutionised 3 years ago and I didn't even know it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zGwbiCKLHs
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 19, 2014, 12:23:01 pm
Too bad I can't ask you guys to come see the musical I'm in now...

Well, if any of you are near Portland, OR and want to see a musical some random online guy is in this weekend, you can give me a PM if you want.  I got a main part too!

*queue 0 PMs*
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 19, 2014, 12:30:50 pm
How we compare explosions got revolutionised 3 years ago and I didn't even know it.

[explosions]

The kilo-Alderaan is my favorite unit since the millihelen.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on May 19, 2014, 10:36:32 pm
http://mondaypunday.com/

Had this website introduced to me today, it's a good time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on May 20, 2014, 12:18:39 am
Does anyone remember that old list of poops from the late 1990s?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on May 20, 2014, 01:00:30 pm
does anyone know how many cards there are total in all dominon expansions + base + intrigue?
dont wanna open a thread for that
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on May 20, 2014, 01:20:38 pm
does anyone know how many cards there are total in all dominon expansions + base + intrigue?
dont wanna open a thread for that
205 unique kingdom cards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on May 20, 2014, 01:35:13 pm
does anyone know how many cards there are total in all dominon expansions + base + intrigue?
dont wanna open a thread for that
205 unique kingdom cards.
mh... that's not what i was asking. how many physical cards are there including everything (spoils, victory cards, copper, etc)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on May 20, 2014, 01:43:14 pm
does anyone know how many cards there are total in all dominon expansions + base + intrigue?
dont wanna open a thread for that
205 unique kingdom cards.
mh... that's not what i was asking. how many physical cards are there including everything (spoils, victory cards, copper, etc)
500 for base, Intrigue, Dark Ages; 300 for Seaside, Prosperity, Hinterlands; 150 for Alchemy, Cornucopia, Guilds. Then you have to decide whether or not to subtract blanks, extra treasures/VP/Curses/Ruins for more players, and/or randomizers; and whether to add the alternate art Base Cards product and/or promos.

Then you could add foreign versions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on May 20, 2014, 01:45:29 pm
thanks
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 20, 2014, 06:08:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_PtnvVQhqA

Star-Spangled Banner in minor key
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 20, 2014, 06:39:28 pm
does anyone know how many cards there are total in all dominon expansions + base + intrigue?
dont wanna open a thread for that
205 unique kingdom cards.
mh... that's not what i was asking. how many physical cards are there including everything (spoils, victory cards, copper, etc)
500 for base, Intrigue, Dark Ages; 300 for Seaside, Prosperity, Hinterlands; 150 for Alchemy, Cornucopia, Guilds. Then you have to decide whether or not to subtract blanks, extra treasures/VP/Curses/Ruins for more players, and/or randomizers; and whether to add the alternate art Base Cards product and/or promos.

Then you could add foreign versions.


You forgot the Promos.


n00b
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 20, 2014, 06:47:50 pm
Apart from the part where he mentions the promos right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on May 20, 2014, 06:49:26 pm
Apart from the part where he mentions the promos right?

Errrrr..... Yeah.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 20, 2014, 06:51:06 pm
Apart from the part where he mentions the promos right?
He only mentioned the alternate art promos.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 20, 2014, 06:56:18 pm
Two unrelated facts

I'm off to Paris for the weekend soon
And
I'm scared to go on Facebook chat as Eevee keeps bullying me
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on May 20, 2014, 07:45:40 pm
what did i ever do to deserve to have this ozle creature tortuting me all through eternity? just seems really arbitrary and unfair!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 21, 2014, 04:06:41 am
what did i ever do to deserve to have this ozle creature tortuting me all through eternity? just seems really arbitrary and unfair!

You know what you did....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on May 21, 2014, 12:50:28 pm
PC- Firefox
Mobile - Dolphin
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 21, 2014, 12:53:21 pm
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1404.6596v1.pdf

Vi Hart is awesome as always.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 21, 2014, 04:16:36 pm
My facebook wall is full of politics and it makes me sad. I'm just going to avoid Facebook for about 36 hours until the election is over and we can get back to being in a state where nothing has really changed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 21, 2014, 04:22:50 pm
My facebook wall is full of politics and it makes me sad. I'm just going to avoid Facebook for about 36 hours until the election is over and we can get back to being in a state where nothing has really changed.

I just logged onto facebook for the first time in a week or so and immediately saw something about homosexuality and the bible. I logged out real quick.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 21, 2014, 04:33:52 pm
I shared this on facebook.  Is it too politicsy?

http://www.theonion.com/articles/biden-loses-control-of-butterfly-knife-during-comm,36053/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on May 21, 2014, 04:34:42 pm
My facebook wall is full of politics and it makes me sad. I'm just going to avoid Facebook for about 36 hours until the election is over and we can get back to being in a state where nothing has really changed.

Election season in Britain?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 21, 2014, 04:41:14 pm
My facebook wall is full of politics and it makes me sad. I'm just going to avoid Facebook for about 36 hours until the election is over and we can get back to being in a state where nothing has really changed.

Election season in Britain?

Yeah, council and EU representatives, so not even important ones really. The general election is next year.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on May 21, 2014, 05:52:05 pm
It's an important barometer though if which way the political wind is shifting.

If the UK independabce party win a lot of votes then the leading party will shift to a bit more hard line stance come the main election
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 21, 2014, 08:14:30 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nIf2JQaeTU

Four in a row.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 21, 2014, 09:08:03 pm
I'm 3 weeks behind on Survivor and I know that the dedicated Survivor thread must be just full of land mines right now (the finale's on right now). :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on May 21, 2014, 10:00:29 pm
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1404.6596v1.pdf

Vi Hart is awesome as always.
I watched a whole bunch of her videos yesterday for the first time  and became a huge fan. What a weird coincidence!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on May 21, 2014, 11:50:20 pm
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1404.6596v1.pdf

Vi Hart is awesome as always.
I watched a whole bunch of her videos yesterday for the first time  and became a huge fan. What a weird coincidence!
I finally got around to watching all the videos on her main channel that I hadn't seen before. Now I'm going through her secondary channel, and yes, I'm watching the microwave videos. Very slowly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 22, 2014, 01:04:39 am
I was helping my mom set up her first smart phone.  When I went into the Play Store to update things, I saw recommendations for apps based on apps I had +1'd.  Except, I had never seen these apps before.  What are you doing, Google?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on May 22, 2014, 01:09:06 am
I was helping my mom set up her first smart phone.  When I went into the Play Store to update things, I saw recommendations for apps based on apps I had +1'd.  Except, I had never seen these apps before.  What are you doing, Google?

They're apps you will +1 in the future
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 22, 2014, 02:34:30 am
I was helping my mom set up her first smart phone.  When I went into the Play Store to update things, I saw recommendations for apps based on apps I had +1'd.  Except, I had never seen these apps before.  What are you doing, Google?

They're apps you will +1 in the future

For some bizarre reason, I initially read this sentence as "Their apps you will +1 in the future", using some sort of irregular Yoda syntax where 'you' is the object, so meaning, "Their apps will +1 you in the future".

This raised all sorts of questions, like, who are "They"? What sort of twisted dystopian future is this where apps are +1ing people? Is this Google's vision for the future of humanity??? Although, what happens if you get a lot of +1s, that would be cool right, it would probably improve your credit rating.

Yeah I should go to bed...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 22, 2014, 02:42:46 am
This raised all sorts of questions, like, who are "They"?

The Soviet Russians.

what happens if you get a lot of +1s, that would be cool right, it would probably improve your credit rating.

Down with the Fives! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Development_and_Condiments)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on May 22, 2014, 02:44:30 am
Down with the Fives! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Development_and_Condiments)

Exactly what I thought of too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 24, 2014, 03:10:33 pm
There was a mass shooting last night where I called home for seven years.  I'm still rather shaken.  I have a lot of friends there, but I think I've mostly accounted for all of them.  Gun violence, misogyny, the stigmatization of mental and emotional illness.  It's all so overwhelming.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 25, 2014, 04:19:29 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 25, 2014, 04:27:00 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?

Make sure your Pizza Hut button works. You're gonna need it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 25, 2014, 04:32:41 pm
Oh I saw D&D and read "WoW" for some reason. Whatever. Pizza Hut!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 25, 2014, 04:35:04 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?

3.5 or 4e?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on May 25, 2014, 04:40:25 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?

You should play whatever race you think sounds coolest! Maybe not one that penalizes Wisdom, but that's about it. (I'm assuming that Wisdom is still a druid's primary stat in 4th Edition. It definitely is in 3rd Edition and Pathfinder.)

EDIT: Perhaps more importantly, you need to choose an animal companion. Or have you done that already?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 25, 2014, 04:46:37 pm
4e. Looking at wilden?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 25, 2014, 04:54:52 pm
D&D has so many options that it is very easy to fall into the trap of min/max-ing everything.  While some people genuinely enjoy that, I would definitely recommend setting some boundaries for yourself.  Design a personality for your character and a few exaggerated quirks which are easy to focus a build around.  For example, I had a tiefling mage who was obsessed with fire, to the point of having little concern for, well, friendly fire.  The big boomy fire spell wasn't always the best choice for my build, but it matched the personality.  It was fun and provided a natural way of restricting the otherwise overwhelming number of gameplay/build options for a new player.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 25, 2014, 06:22:10 pm
Update: I am a wilden druid wearing leather and wielding a sling. I can talk to fish and summon thousands of tiny forest spirits to lay out bed rolls and cook us a hot meal. Oh yeah.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on May 25, 2014, 06:26:14 pm
Update: I am a wilden druid wearing leather and wielding a sling. I can talk to fish and summon thousands of tiny forest spirits to lay out bed rolls and cook us a hot meal. Oh yeah.

That sounds exploitative :-P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 25, 2014, 06:31:04 pm
I hope the forest spirits are all scyther.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 25, 2014, 06:45:27 pm
Update: I am a wilden druid wearing leather and wielding a sling. I can talk to fish and summon thousands of tiny forest spirits to lay out bed rolls and cook us a hot meal. Oh yeah.

That sounds exploitative :-P

I prefer to think of it as a mutually beneficial situation. I'm basically a tree that transforms into animals, so I'm pretty much one with nature. :P

I'm also extremely wise and extremely unintelligent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 25, 2014, 07:23:37 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 25, 2014, 08:27:40 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?
Goliath is fun (I assume 4e?)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 26, 2014, 03:19:56 am
Update: I am a wilden druid wearing leather and wielding a sling. I can talk to fish and summon thousands of tiny forest spirits to lay out bed rolls and cook us a hot meal. Oh yeah.

Summon bigger fish.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 26, 2014, 03:26:35 am
On a whim, I did a search, and no one here has talked about the glories of Frog Fractions yet.

http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions

(For people who do play, my one request is that you spoiler your comments. It's better that way.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 26, 2014, 03:29:02 am
That game is great. And I thought I knew about fractions!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on May 26, 2014, 04:06:03 am
On a whim, I did a search, and no one here has talked about the glories of Frog Fractions yet.

http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions

(For people who do play, my one request is that you spoiler your comments. It's better that way.)

Oh god. This is ridiculous (and hilarious). I was about to go to bed too. I'm stuck in the text interface spaceship. I don't know what to do with the goop room

Edit: Nevermind. I beat it. That was a great waste of a couple hours sleep. I'm sure there are secrets that I missed
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on May 26, 2014, 04:12:02 am
I watched a whole bunch of her videos yesterday for the first time  and became a huge fan. What a weird coincidence!

That's not a coincidence, it's cause and effect. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on May 26, 2014, 07:33:35 am
On a whim, I did a search, and no one here has talked about the glories of Frog Fractions yet.

http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions

(For people who do play, my one request is that you spoiler your comments. It's better that way.)

I loved it. It renewed my unending obsession with fractions.

I finished the game a while ago, but made the mistake of leaving the Palace or whatever before exploring it, at the end, and couldn't muster the will to get there again. Was there anything interesting to do there?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 26, 2014, 08:28:04 am
Oh god, the punching strategy.  I just about died.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on May 26, 2014, 03:02:44 pm
On a whim, I did a search, and no one here has talked about the glories of Frog Fractions yet.

http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions

(For people who do play, my one request is that you spoiler your comments. It's better that way.)

I loved it. It renewed my unending obsession with fractions.

I finished the game a while ago, but made the mistake of leaving the Palace or whatever before exploring it, at the end, and couldn't muster the will to get there again. Was there anything interesting to do there?

As far as I know, no. You can't go off on either sides or go up, so down is the only way through.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 26, 2014, 06:35:10 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?

First time doing any tabletop RPG or D&D in general?

I have my fair share of D&D, but I think I'll use 13th Age as a way to introduce people. It has some crunchy rules too, but it encourages players to be pretty creative in the character. Not to say you can't be creative in D&D, but some GMs can't think outside the box, so it can be a pretty uninspiring time. I guess that's true for any game, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on May 26, 2014, 06:54:16 pm
On a whim, I did a search, and no one here has talked about the glories of Frog Fractions yet.

http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions

(For people who do play, my one request is that you spoiler your comments. It's better that way.)

I'm....um, missing something?

I saw fractions, but I did not see an indication of what to do with them. Do I only target certain bugs? And once I get the electro tongue, it's pretty easy to get a bunch of bugs, which presumably means bugs that you wouldn't want, though that did not seem to be an issue with me since I didn't even know which bugs I did want.

And the gameplay I'm seeing in spoiler tags makes no sense to me. I never saw any of that.

Judging from the comments on that page, I feel like I'm being trolled.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on May 26, 2014, 07:02:09 pm
The game goes on a lot longer than that... keep playing. I'm stuck on the text adventure. Where do I get perfume?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 26, 2014, 07:05:21 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?

First time doing any tabletop RPG or D&D in general?

I have my fair share of D&D, but I think I'll use 13th Age as a way to introduce people. It has some crunchy rules too, but it encourages players to be pretty creative in the character. Not to say you can't be creative in D&D, but some GMs can't think outside the box, so it can be a pretty uninspiring time. I guess that's true for any game, though.

Any RPG! I just finished playing, it was great! And in case anyone wants to put on their robe and wizard hat, I'm a level 2 druid.
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Post by: LastFootnote on May 26, 2014, 07:20:03 pm
Playing D&D for the first time tomorrow. Gonna be a druid, about to choose a race. Any suggestions for me?

First time doing any tabletop RPG or D&D in general?

I have my fair share of D&D, but I think I'll use 13th Age as a way to introduce people. It has some crunchy rules too, but it encourages players to be pretty creative in the character. Not to say you can't be creative in D&D, but some GMs can't think outside the box, so it can be a pretty uninspiring time. I guess that's true for any game, though.

Any RPG! I just finished playing, it was great! And in case anyone wants to put on their robe and wizard hat, I'm a level 2 druid.

Do you WANT your body to explode into a fine bloody mist?
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Post by: Kuildeous on May 26, 2014, 07:32:55 pm
Any RPG! I just finished playing, it was great! And in case anyone wants to put on their robe and wizard hat, I'm a level 2 druid.

One of us! One of us!

Welcome to your new circle of geekery. I know you're already a geek; nobody hangs out here without geek points. Now you have a new geek badge.

Check out different games. They have all sorts of different genres, so you can easily find one (or a bunch) that suits you. For example, I play a fair amount of Legend of the Five Rings, which is an RPG that is set in a world that is similar to Japan if it was on a large continent and had real magic.

And one of my favorite RPGs is Over the Edge, which is a surreal game taking place on a mysterious island in the present day where conspiracies are real.
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Post by: Kuildeous on May 26, 2014, 07:35:08 pm
The game goes on a lot longer than that... keep playing. I'm stuck on the text adventure. Where do I get perfume?

How much longer? I played through two different typing tests and had bought the first seven upgrades. The eighth upgrade requires 25k fruit, which seems a long ways away. I didn't pay much attention to how many waves of bugs I had to endure, but there were at least 10 waves with only the typing test as something different. Oh, and the bugs shot at me when I got the dragon, so that's a little different.

And I still don't see how it's teaching fractions.
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Post by: Titandrake on May 26, 2014, 07:38:31 pm
The game goes on a lot longer than that... keep playing. I'm stuck on the text adventure. Where do I get perfume?

How much longer? I played through two different typing tests and had bought the first seven upgrades. The eighth upgrade requires 25k fruit, which seems a long ways away. I didn't pay much attention to how many waves of bugs I had to endure, but there were at least 10 waves with only the typing test as something different. Oh, and the bugs shot at me when I got the dragon, so that's a little different.

And I still don't see how it's teaching fractions.

You can move more than left and right. Also how is it not teaching fractions. Look at all these fractions everywhere.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 26, 2014, 08:12:18 pm
The game goes on a lot longer than that... keep playing. I'm stuck on the text adventure. Where do I get perfume?

How much longer? I played through two different typing tests and had bought the first seven upgrades. The eighth upgrade requires 25k fruit, which seems a long ways away. I didn't pay much attention to how many waves of bugs I had to endure, but there were at least 10 waves with only the typing test as something different. Oh, and the bugs shot at me when I got the dragon, so that's a little different.

And I still don't see how it's teaching fractions.

You can move more than left and right. Also how is it not teaching fractions. Look at all these fractions everywhere.

Indeed, more than fractions, especially after you get the cybernetic brain upgrade.

@Dsell liopoil
Did you check out the machine?
Bacon smells good, doesn't it?
I think it would make a good perfume.
If only you could take the goop.
If only you had a way to carry the goop.


A thing that people may have missed -- Buy the uninstall upgrade for the targeting system. Reinstall it. Uninstall it again. And so on...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 26, 2014, 09:00:25 pm
I played the fraction game a long time ago, but I am pretty sure I did everything I could.
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Post by: pacovf on May 26, 2014, 09:23:28 pm
A thing that people may have missed -- Buy the uninstall upgrade for the targeting system. Reinstall it. Uninstall it again. And so on...

First time I played, those upgrades were leaking left and right over the original interface before I realized that I wasn't going to unlock the warp drive that way. It was funny though. Also, I used the dragon the right way completely by accident, trying to avoid the bullets. Looking back, I think it's genius that the shooting phase starts with the dragon (although you can pull the trick I am talking about with the turtle too).
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 26, 2014, 10:06:56 pm
I played the fraction game a long time ago, but I am pretty sure I did everything I could.

Oops, I meant @liopoil.  Golem and Chapel have very similar colour schemes.
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Post by: Kirian on May 26, 2014, 11:14:29 pm
Playing for a couple minutes, then reading through the spoilers, it appears the Fraction Frogs game is another Mao-style game.
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Post by: heron on May 26, 2014, 11:31:57 pm
Playing for a couple minutes, then reading through the spoilers, it appears the Fraction Frogs game is another Mao-style game.

You know, it's really not. And you really shouldn't have read spoilers, the game is a beautiful artwork.
But seriously, every step of the way the game either tells you what to do, or it is impossible to fail. The first bit, for example, the game tells you that it is an option, and also hints are given: I think (might just be my imagination) that the typing levels purposefully give clue words, and if you run through the auto-target upgrades enough times you get a hint, sort of.
That is not like mao. Mao is not telling you what you can do, and then shouting at you when you don't follow them. Frog Fractions is telling you what to do, and then congratulating you when you truly follow the instructions.

Frog Fractions is also a beautiful surreal experience that I wish I could experience again.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 27, 2014, 12:45:30 am
Frog Fractions is also a beautiful surreal experience that I wish I could experience again.

It was fun and hilarious, and I suppose it is surreal, but I don't think I'd call it beautiful.  I mean, consider the theme of the mini-game in the last stage.  Not exactly my idea of beauty.
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Post by: SirPeebles on May 27, 2014, 05:49:19 am
Frog Fractions is also a beautiful surreal experience that I wish I could experience again.

It was fun and hilarious, and I suppose it is surreal, but I don't think I'd call it beautiful.  I mean, consider the theme of the mini-game in the last stage.  Not exactly my idea of beauty.

I was planning to introduce my eleven year old nephew to the game, but then chose not to when I got to that last mini-game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 27, 2014, 07:05:50 am
I've played through to the text adventure, and gotten thoroughly bored now I'm there. It's an interesting idea, but at this point my desire to do something more fun is outweighing my desire to solve the puzzle with the can and spigot.
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Post by: SirPeebles on May 27, 2014, 07:10:49 am
I've played through to the text adventure, and gotten thoroughly bored now I'm there. It's an interesting idea, but at this point my desire to do something more fun is outweighing my desire to solve the puzzle with the can and spigot.

It's pretty much just what it looks like.  Put the can on the spigot and pull the lever.
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Post by: liopoil on May 27, 2014, 07:34:38 am
@Dsell liopoil
Did you check out the machine?
Bacon smells good, doesn't it?
I think it would make a good perfume.
If only you could take the goop.
If only you had a way to carry the goop.

Yeah, figured it out now. I tried to put the goop in the cup (even before I read this) but there wasn't enough floating around. It didn't occur to me to put it under the spigot...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 27, 2014, 02:34:13 pm
I've played through to the text adventure, and gotten thoroughly bored now I'm there. It's an interesting idea, but at this point my desire to do something more fun is outweighing my desire to solve the puzzle with the can and spigot.

It's pretty much just what it looks like.  Put the can on the spigot and pull the lever.

I haven't touched the game since earlier today but... what lever? I don't recall ever finding one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 27, 2014, 02:46:02 pm
I've played through to the text adventure, and gotten thoroughly bored now I'm there. It's an interesting idea, but at this point my desire to do something more fun is outweighing my desire to solve the puzzle with the can and spigot.

It's pretty much just what it looks like.  Put the can on the spigot and pull the lever.

I haven't touched the game since earlier today but... what lever? I don't recall ever finding one.

look at the machine
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on May 27, 2014, 02:47:49 pm
I've played through to the text adventure, and gotten thoroughly bored now I'm there. It's an interesting idea, but at this point my desire to do something more fun is outweighing my desire to solve the puzzle with the can and spigot.

It's pretty much just what it looks like.  Put the can on the spigot and pull the lever.

I haven't touched the game since earlier today but... what lever? I don't recall ever finding one.

look at the machine

I think I did. I'm probably just forgetting. I'm not actually at all interested in playing it again at this point though.
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Post by: Witherweaver on May 27, 2014, 02:48:42 pm
Saw XMen this weekend and saw a preview for The Boxtrolls (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0787474/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1).  Animation looks really neat, and reminded me of Machinarium.  I couldn't find any link between the companies involved, though.  Anyone else see a resemblance? 
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Post by: Tables on May 29, 2014, 07:00:12 am
I win, AdamH.

(http://i.imgur.com/0no2I8r.png)

And now (at time of posting this) I lose the 1:1 ratio :(.
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Post by: Gveoniz on May 29, 2014, 07:23:19 am
I win, AdamH.

(http://i.imgur.com/0no2I8r.png)

And now (at time of posting this) I lose the 1:1 ratio :(.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Vg4n4higI8SLybZ5MA7OtAyAEPpf23_Xfo8Dvp4rOrg=w209-h220-no)
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Post by: SirPeebles on May 29, 2014, 07:35:22 am
Your ratio looks fine to me.
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Post by: Joseph2302 on May 29, 2014, 08:24:11 am
I win, AdamH.

(http://i.imgur.com/0no2I8r.png)

And now (at time of posting this) I lose the 1:1 ratio :(.

Especially if someone decided to give you a second respect on this post.. which they'll probably remove after your next post.
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Post by: SirPeebles on May 29, 2014, 09:00:21 am
Psh, now I retract my respect, imposter.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 29, 2014, 04:02:10 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/130d0854e292dc5fd471bc8ab19afd1f/tumblr_n4fj3ucEhh1rk39pjo1_500.png)
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Post by: pacovf on May 29, 2014, 04:12:33 pm
Looks like it's time to change citizenship.

Hrrm...

Truuuuue patriot loooove... in aaaall thy sons commaaaaaaaaaaand...
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Post by: SirPeebles on May 29, 2014, 04:27:23 pm
You disappointment me, Canada.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 29, 2014, 04:43:35 pm
You disappointment me, Canada.

(http://www.tickld.com/cdn_image_content/301581.jpg)
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Post by: markusin on May 29, 2014, 04:59:01 pm
You disappointment me, Canada.
Are you saying that because you don't eat meat products?
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Post by: Kirian on May 29, 2014, 10:20:37 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/130d0854e292dc5fd471bc8ab19afd1f/tumblr_n4fj3ucEhh1rk39pjo1_500.png)

Reading an article about this... this is a quite obvious hoax (satire?) for publicity.
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Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 29, 2014, 11:55:34 pm
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

On my most recent trip to Trader Joe's I discovered they have frozen Steak and Ale Pies(!)(?). Don't know if they're new or I just never noticed. I'm heating one up for dinner now, hopefully it will be delicious.
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Post by: Dsell on May 30, 2014, 01:42:16 am
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

Same here...I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting. Those burgers with grilled cheese sandwiches for buns are like my favorite thing in the world, the waffle taco at Taco Bell is delicious. Next on my list of things to try is the double down.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 30, 2014, 03:40:45 am
Reading an article about this... this is a quite obvious hoax (satire?) for publicity.

No idea if the pizza cake was a gag item or not, because I don't frequent Boston Pizza enough to know.  But one article mentions Sriracha chicken pizza, which was actually on the menu when I went a couple weeks ago.
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Post by: ashersky on May 30, 2014, 03:46:57 am
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

Same here...I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting. Those burgers with grilled cheese sandwiches for buns are like my favorite thing in the world, the waffle taco at Taco Bell is delicious. Next on my list of things to try is the double down.

I have some places to take you in Tokyo...
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Post by: Dsell on May 30, 2014, 04:44:16 am
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

Same here...I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting. Those burgers with grilled cheese sandwiches for buns are like my favorite thing in the world, the waffle taco at Taco Bell is delicious. Next on my list of things to try is the double down.

I have some places to take you in Tokyo...

I fondly remember dipping sukiyaki in raw egg when I was in Japan. I not-so-fondly remember taking a bite from a whole fish on a skewer. I wanna go back!!
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Post by: Ozle on May 30, 2014, 05:30:02 am
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

On my most recent trip to Trader Joe's I discovered they have frozen Steak and Ale Pies(!)(?). Don't know if they're new or I just never noticed. I'm heating one up for dinner now, hopefully it will be delicious.

Steak and ale pies is a standard pub meal in Britain...
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Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 30, 2014, 11:14:39 am
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

On my most recent trip to Trader Joe's I discovered they have frozen Steak and Ale Pies(!)(?). Don't know if they're new or I just never noticed. I'm heating one up for dinner now, hopefully it will be delicious.

Steak and ale pies is a standard pub meal in Britain...

Oh I'm aware of steak and ale pies haha. I like to consider myself something of a meat pie enthusiast...there was a period where I asked for a meat pie for my birthday dinner every year. I was expressing my surprise that it was available in such a convenient format, and that I hadn't noticed them before!

It was pretty good! I am consistently impressed by the quality of Trader Joe's frozen meals, they're mostly better than what I could cook. The crust was particularly pleasant, nice and crusty
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Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 30, 2014, 12:38:07 pm
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

On my most recent trip to Trader Joe's I discovered they have frozen Steak and Ale Pies(!)(?). Don't know if they're new or I just never noticed. I'm heating one up for dinner now, hopefully it will be delicious.

Steak and ale pies is a standard pub meal in Britain...

Oh I'm aware of steak and ale pies haha. I like to consider myself something of a meat pie enthusiast...there was a period where I asked for a meat pie for my birthday dinner every year. I was expressing my surprise that it was available in such a convenient format, and that I hadn't noticed them before!

It was pretty good! I am consistently impressed by the quality of Trader Joe's frozen meals, they're mostly better than what I could cook. The crust was particularly pleasant, nice and crusty

I lived off Trader Joe's in college. Frozen burritos, frozen pizzas, cereal, and that cheap beer they sell. Oh and frozen dumplings from Chinatown.
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Post by: mail-mi on May 30, 2014, 01:18:07 pm
Don't know where else to put this but...

I am, as of this moment, 1111 on the pro leaderboard.
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Post by: theory on May 30, 2014, 01:20:36 pm
Hoax or no, I'd still probably eat one...

On my most recent trip to Trader Joe's I discovered they have frozen Steak and Ale Pies(!)(?). Don't know if they're new or I just never noticed. I'm heating one up for dinner now, hopefully it will be delicious.

Steak and ale pies is a standard pub meal in Britain...

Oh I'm aware of steak and ale pies haha. I like to consider myself something of a meat pie enthusiast...there was a period where I asked for a meat pie for my birthday dinner every year. I was expressing my surprise that it was available in such a convenient format, and that I hadn't noticed them before!

It was pretty good! I am consistently impressed by the quality of Trader Joe's frozen meals, they're mostly better than what I could cook. The crust was particularly pleasant, nice and crusty

You may like this article about the Trader Joe's business model: http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/20/news/companies/inside_trader_joes_full_version.fortune/
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Post by: Ozle on May 30, 2014, 02:38:37 pm
Just looked them up and they seem pretty cool.

We have aldi's over here, but they are more the cheap and nasty budget range of supermarket (although some of their stuff is really good)

But apparently there is one coming to Lomdon soon
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Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 30, 2014, 03:36:01 pm
Lomdon, Emgland?
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Post by: Eevee on May 30, 2014, 06:13:14 pm
Lomdon, Emgland?
Don't be silly. It's obviously Lomdon, Tuvalu.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 30, 2014, 06:41:24 pm
Lomdon, Emgland?

I read this hours ago and didn't think twice; I just figured that Lomdon was a town in England.  Just a few moments ago it dawned on me that he meant London.  I did a google search to make sure, and after laughing at some #lomdon instagram photos I decided to come back here and respond by saying "not Lomdon, England.  It's Lomdon, Emgland."  But when I quoted you I saw you already made the Emgland joke.  I am having an off day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 30, 2014, 06:42:58 pm
Lomdon, Emgland?

I read this hours ago and didn't think twice; I just figured that Lomdon was a town in England.  Just a few moments ago it dawned on me that he meant London.  I did a google search to make sure, and after laughing at some #lomdon instagram photos I decided to come back here and respond by saying "not Lomdon, England.  It's Lomdon, Emgland."  But when I quoted you I saw you already made the Emgland joke.  I am having an off day.

Well, I didn't realize he said Emgland until your second-to-last sentence.
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Post by: eHalcyom on May 30, 2014, 06:53:20 pm
But when I quoted you I saw you already made the Emgland joke.

I dom't get it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on May 30, 2014, 07:05:14 pm
If you explaim it, it will be fummy.
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Post by: AndrewisFTTW on May 30, 2014, 07:05:43 pm
Lomdon, Emgland?

I read this hours ago and didn't think twice; I just figured that Lomdon was a town in England.  Just a few moments ago it dawned on me that he meant London.  I did a google search to make sure, and after laughing at some #lomdon instagram photos I decided to come back here and respond by saying "not Lomdon, England.  It's Lomdon, Emgland."  But when I quoted you I saw you already made the Emgland joke.  I am having an off day.

Well, I didn't realize he said Emgland until your second-to-last sentence.

Me either. That's obviously a typo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on May 30, 2014, 07:39:40 pm
But when I quoted you I saw you already made the Emgland joke.

I dom't get it.

Whoooo, I have finally achieved 1:1 respect-to-post ratio!

Wait a minute...
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Post by: Ozle on May 30, 2014, 07:41:02 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA         HA
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Post by: SirPeebles on May 30, 2014, 07:53:04 pm
For those of you interested in the BICEP 2 results from a few months ago regarding inflation and gravitional waves from the big bang, there is a discussion being livestreamed from the World Science Festival in ten minutes.  All of the big names are there, including Guth, Lindei, and Kovac.

http://www.worldsciencefestival.com/2014/05/ripples-from-the-big-bang-listening-to-the-beginning-of-time/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on May 30, 2014, 07:54:18 pm
But when I quoted you I saw you already made the Emgland joke.

I dom't get it.
[irrelevant]

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 30, 2014, 11:30:25 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Update: I just ate a peanut butter chocolate banana fried pie. Yum!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 30, 2014, 11:42:30 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Update: I just ate a peanut butter chocolate banana fried pie. Yum!
That sounds really good.

Have you ever tried toasted english muffin with cream cheese and nutella? So good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 12:14:18 am
mh, both of my pokemon just fainted... which, in the mode I'm playing in, means that they're dead and have to be freed, and since i allso ran out of pokemon, i am dead too and have to delete my save

well it was nice while it lasted  :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on May 31, 2014, 12:18:57 am
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Update: I just ate a peanut butter chocolate banana fried pie. Yum!
That sounds really good.

Have you ever tried toasted english muffin with cream cheese and nutella? So good.

No but now I have to have it! Cream cheese and nutella are two of my favorite things in the whoooole world.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 31, 2014, 12:25:24 am
mh, both of my pokemon just fainted... which, in the mode I'm playing in, means that they're dead and have to be freed, and since i allso ran out of pokemon, i am dead too and have to delete my save

well it was nice while it lasted  :(
Nuzlocke? :'(

I've done one run with it. I'll post in a sec. It hurt so much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 12:30:06 am
mh, both of my pokemon just fainted... which, in the mode I'm playing in, means that they're dead and have to be freed, and since i allso ran out of pokemon, i am dead too and have to delete my save

well it was nice while it lasted  :(
Nuzlocke? :'(

I've done one run with it. I'll post in a sec. It hurt so much.

is that how its called? i got the idea from a friend

well at least this time it was pretty early. last time i tried it, i died in the last arena, that sucked
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 31, 2014, 12:32:07 am
mh, both of my pokemon just fainted... which, in the mode I'm playing in, means that they're dead and have to be freed, and since i allso ran out of pokemon, i am dead too and have to delete my save

well it was nice while it lasted  :(
Nuzlocke? :'(

I've done one run with it. I'll post in a sec. It hurt so much.

is that how its called? i got the idea from a friend

well at least this time it was pretty early. last time i tried it, i died in the last arena, that sucked
There are some cool ones here! http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/forum/3014649/

I haven't been to that site in a while, but there are a few really cool comics about people doing their runs. Not bothering to find the exact link now.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 12:36:00 am
wow i had no idea it was that popular
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Post by: Axxle on May 31, 2014, 12:37:30 am
Basically I completely wiped on my rival in Pokemon: Sapphire right after the Houhou tower (whatever its called). Devastated, lost my starter and all the guys I cared about.  All I had left was a Magikarp and a Zubat. Damn. But how I came to love that Zubat. When it turned into Crobat I was ecstatic! <3

I was able to slowly rebuild my team. But then half my team got wiped by a silly Sudowodo (who I didn't know was rock type, it looks like a plant!) and the deer pokemon (had some cheesy stomp move that critted everything). Damn.

Luckily I still had my Crobat and I forget if I had the magikarp from before or caught a new one.  But I grinded and battled and made my way to the dragon gym. I was stupid and drunk and decided that my Gyarados with Ice Fang would be able to take out all the dragons even though he was a bit underleveled. I was half right.  Then the gym leader threw out their highest level poke, Kingdra. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. Water + Dragon meant that the icefang wasn't super effective anymore.  I wiped. Saddest week.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on May 31, 2014, 12:39:04 am
wow i had no idea it was that popular
It's the internet. Even My Little Pony is popular  ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 12:41:21 am
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Basically I completely wiped on my rival in Pokemon: Sapphire right after the Houhou tower (whatever its called). Devastated, lost my starter and all the guys I cared about.  All I had left was a Magikarp and a Zubat. Damn. But how I came to love that Zubat. When it turned into Crobat I was ecstatic! <3

I was able to slowly rebuild my team. But then half my team got wiped by a silly Sudowodo (who I didn't know was rock type, it looks like a plant!) and the deer pokemon (had some cheesy stomp move that critted everything). Damn.

Luckily I still had my Crobat and I forget if I had the magikarp from before or caught a new one.  But I grinded and battled and made my way to the dragon gym. I was stupid and drunk and decided that my Gyarados with Ice Fang would be able to take out all the dragons even though he was a bit underleveled. I was half right.  Then the gym leader threw out their highest level poke, Kingdra. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. Water + Dragon meant that the icefang wasn't super effective anymore.  I wiped. Saddest week.

ahhahhhaawwww... :c

   
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wow i had no idea it was that popular

It's the internet. Even My Little Pony is popular  ;)

good point
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on May 31, 2014, 12:42:50 am
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Update: I just ate a peanut butter chocolate banana fried pie. Yum!

I one time had a peanut butter assorted nuts tangarine brownie sandwich.  It didn't taste that bad, actually.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 12:44:56 am
i also had a run on gold once, i was trying to train an almost-dead pokemon by having it on the first position but switching it instantly every time a fight starts. then one guy had an attack that hits before you switch (which doesn't exist in generation 1!) and it died, i was pissed and stopped. that's why i only play red

also, pokemon without awful graphics just doesn't feel right
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 01:01:33 am
hehe 7am time to sleep  ::)
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Post by: Titandrake on May 31, 2014, 02:29:13 am
wow i had no idea it was that popular
It's the internet. Even My Little Pony is popular  ;)

Hey, MLP is the shit. Well, except the recent seasons have been much more hit-or-miss.

I did a Nuzlocke run of Blue once. Somehow, I got an Abra as first encounter on the route right after Cerulean, and caught it. Decided to say screw it, power leveled it up to Kadabra, and used it + Blastoise to destroy everything.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 10:32:02 am
yea its pretty good  ::)
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Post by: Awaclus on May 31, 2014, 10:39:11 am
I watched the first two episodes and it seemed pretty good, but not as good as its popularity would suggest. Does it get significantly better later?

There are some decent YTPs made of it, though.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 10:46:30 am
I watched the first two episodes and it seemed pretty good, but not as good as its popularity would suggest. Does it get significantly better later?

There are some decent YTPs made of it, though.

well, mlp is very inconsistent, because it has lots of different writers. the first two episodes, which are unfortunately the ones that almost every newcomer tries, aren't very good, and they are also sort of a false promise for the rest of the show, as most episodes are just slice of life without an over the top cheesy conflict.

if you want to try some of the more intelligent episodes i'd recommend  #4, #20 and maybe #13 of season 1. but there are pretty much great and awful episodes spread across all seasons.
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Post by: Kirian on May 31, 2014, 12:34:46 pm
Shockingly my four and three year old girls don't really distinguish between the good and bad episodes of MLP.

That said, having John De Lancie voicing Discord was pure genius.
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Post by: Awaclus on May 31, 2014, 12:47:16 pm
Shockingly my four and three year old girls don't really distinguish between the good and bad episodes of MLP.
That's probably the reason why the bad episodes are there.
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 01:12:48 pm
Shockingly my four and three year old girls don't really distinguish between the good and bad episodes of MLP.



*highlights the people who should be watching Mlp*
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 01:32:04 pm
Shockingly my four and three year old girls don't really distinguish between the good and bad episodes of MLP.
*highlights the people who should be watching Mlp*
if you do, or don't do, anything because stereotypes demand it, you already have my sympathies
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 01:56:15 pm
Shockingly my four and three year old girls don't really distinguish between the good and bad episodes of MLP.

it's impressive too how many older viewers don't manage to do just that
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 01:56:43 pm
Shockingly my four and three year old girls don't really distinguish between the good and bad episodes of MLP.
*highlights the people who should be watching Mlp*
if you do, or don't do, anything because stereotypes demand it, you already have my sympathies

If you do or do not watch things that are aimed at tiny young girls because 'the Internet' says it's cool to do so, then you have my sympathies

Yay for sweeping generalisations!

I just watched one as research, there's nothing there for adults, no decent plot, no violence, no romance story, so plot twists. And that's because it's for young children (I retract the girls part, I see no reasons why young boys can't watch it either)
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 01:58:14 pm
But thanks for assuming that I make all my decisions based on stereotypes rather than actually making decisions myself, rather offensive statement that.

Do you take that stance with everyone that disagrees with you?
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Post by: Awaclus on May 31, 2014, 02:04:49 pm
no decent plot, no violence, no romance story, so plot twists.
That sounds familiar.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/fun%20things.jpg)

The main target audience of this and a big number of other similar shows is actually adult males.
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 02:07:56 pm
I'm not debating that people think it's fun.

Just that's it's aimed at prepubescent children.

If that's your sort of fun, I don't really have a problem with that at all, I really don't. I find it strange, but it's not wrong
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 02:10:15 pm
I did find this numerous quote though

"For example, she suggested that, through the character of Rainbow Dash, the show was promoting the stereotype that "all feminists are angry, tomboyish lesbians." She also considered that the only darker-colored ponies shown to date were in positions of servitude towards the "white pony overlord."
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 02:30:27 pm
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Do you take that stance with everyone that disagrees with you?
you didn't just "disagree" with me. disagreeing with me would be saying "i think the show is bad because of XXX". what you said was "only little girls should watch mlp", which is dumb.

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there's nothing there for adults, no decent plot, no violence, no romance story, so plot twists.
and that's wrong
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Post by: Awaclus on May 31, 2014, 02:41:28 pm
I'm not debating that people think it's fun.

Just that's it's aimed at prepubescent children.
Well, MLP is (or at least originally was, they must be aware of their older fans at this point) aimed at prepubescent children, I was just saying that the characteristics you listed also describe a lot of shows that aren't.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 31, 2014, 03:00:17 pm
I've considered watching MLP before, having heard good things, but I'm pretty hesitant to do so at this point because of my knowledge of the toxic adult male fandom.  Yes, yes, not all bronies are bad people, but some really are.  I don't like that MLP is potentially an unsafe search term and the fetishization of ponies is just... ugh. 

But I have nothing against MLP itself, nor fans of the show in general, nor the idea of enjoying media that is primarily targeted to children.  I'm a huge fan of ATLA, which is also a children's program.
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 03:03:32 pm
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Do you take that stance with everyone that disagrees with you?
you didn't just "disagree" with me. disagreeing with me would be saying "i think the show is bad because of XXX". what you said was "only little girls should watch mlp", which is dumb.

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there's nothing there for adults, no decent plot, no violence, no romance story, so plot twists.
and that's wrong

Ahh yes sorry my mistake i did say that, it was you disagreeing with me rather than the other way round.

Then you went on to insult my reasoning and character because I dared have a differing opinion to yours, rather than putting forward an objective case. Far easier to insult the man (especially when it's Ozle, easy target because I'm a bit of a goof) than  the statement I guess

And there was me thinking I was the one that was being closed minded and not allowing differing opinions.
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 03:06:36 pm
I've considered watching MLP before, having heard good things, but I'm pretty hesitant to do so at this point because of my knowledge of the toxic adult male fandom.  Yes, yes, not all bronies are bad people, but some really are.  I don't like that MLP is potentially an unsafe search term and the fetishization of ponies is just... ugh. 

But I have nothing against MLP itself, nor fans of the show in general, nor the idea of enjoying media that is primarily targeted to children.  I'm a huge fan of ATLA, which is also a children's program.

Haha yes let's not forget the whole Mlp thing came about because of its ironic use by 4chan. (Or b3ta)

I don't mind people enjoying children's television, but it's target market and it's intellectual market is children, there's no denying that.

But as awacawaca said, fun is fun. And if that's what does it for, go for it!
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 03:12:01 pm
I've considered watching MLP before, having heard good things, but I'm pretty hesitant to do so at this point because of my knowledge of the toxic adult male fandom.  Yes, yes, not all bronies are bad people, but some really are.  I don't like that MLP is potentially an unsafe search term and the fetishization of ponies is just... ugh.

it's called clop.

mh... i'm trying really hard to avoid it, but I don't think it's a bad thing. a very close friend of mine consumes it occasionally, and also uses it to... y'know, and I don't really see an objective reason why that's bad. i mean, you don't hurt anyone else, as long as you keep it private and put it in spoilers if you post it somehwere. and since I pretty much manage not to see any of it despite the huge amounts of it that are out there, I'd say people are doing a fine job.

it's also fair to mention that there is "fetishization" of everything that has a big enough fandom, not just mlp. simpsons and south park are two good examples.

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Then you went on to insult my reasoning and character because I dared have a differing opinion to yours, rather than putting forward an objective case. Far easier to insult the man (especially when it's Ozle, easy target because I'm a bit of a goof) than  the statement I guess

you said something dumb; i told you that it's dumb. you also implied that I'm doing something that's wrong, and I responded by saying that if you think things are wrong because society says so, I pity you. I stand by both of that.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 03:13:55 pm
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Haha yes let's not forget the whole Mlp thing came about because of its ironic use by 4chan. (Or b3ta)

well and that's wrong too. what do you want me to say?
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Post by: Axxle on May 31, 2014, 03:18:42 pm
Just because something is primarily aimed at one group doesn't mean it doesn't also contain elements aimed at a second group or that those groups enjoy mutually exclusive things.
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Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on May 31, 2014, 03:37:09 pm
Could you recommend a couple seminal episodes to watch if I wanted to get into it, if not the beginning? I enjoy plenty of other cartoon shows but have never even seen an episode of MLP.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 04:01:21 pm
Could you recommend a couple seminal episodes to watch if I wanted to get into it, if not the beginning? I enjoy plenty of other cartoon shows but have never even seen an episode of MLP.

i'd love to

S1 E04, E08, E23
S2 E23, E03
S4 E19
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Post by: Tables on May 31, 2014, 04:06:11 pm
Today I went to the UK Games Expo and was recognised while wandering around by Qmech. Not by the fact my hoodie has a Dominion related quote and the name "Tables" on it, but by my face, which was posted in that thread a while back. I was pretty impressed.
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Post by: Lekkit on May 31, 2014, 04:15:59 pm
Today I went to the UK Games Expo and was recognised while wandering around by Qmech. Not by the fact my hoodie has a Dominion related quote and the name "Tables" on it, but by my face, which was posted in that thread a while back. I was pretty impressed.

The one with the party hats? I liked that photo. :D

I don't like the art style of MLP. But I do enjoy childish cartoons every now and then. Even though I'm not the target audience. Mostly I like the bad old Swedish voice actors that are in a lot of the old ones here.
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Post by: Titandrake on May 31, 2014, 04:35:44 pm
Omg the MLP drama.

The tl;dr is that MLP goes between two shows. One is character driven slice of life, the other is adventure/high fantasy that's inspired by mythology. I'm a sucker for the latter, but those adventures are usually only in the season premiere and finales. The slice of life part is good, but you really have to care about the characters before you'll like it.

It also has pretty good character development, and usually characters don't act dumb, they act according to their character. Usually. The times they act dumb are when the episode quality drops like a rock.

I'd recommend giving the first 2 episodes a chance, since they're not awful, then continuing if you find it okay. If you want to skip directly to slice of lifes, I'd rec

S1: Eps 4, 16, 6, 9, 10. I also like (3, 11, 14, 17, 23) a lot, but I think they're better after getting familiar with the characters.
S2: 4, 5, 7, 14, 16, 20

and if you like those then you're probably already a fan.

As for the fanbase, there is lots of good fan content that, you know, requires you to be a fan. Fallout: Equestria is a surprisingly epic mashup and is the only fan content that is approachable if you haven't seen the show.
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Post by: qmech on May 31, 2014, 04:50:11 pm
Today I went to the UK Games Expo and was recognised while wandering around by Qmech. Not by the fact my hoodie has a Dominion related quote and the name "Tables" on it, but by my face, which was posted in that thread a while back. I was pretty impressed.

I generally find it safest not to read things written on people's chests.

If any of the 16 entrants in tomorrow's Dominion tournament are around, you have my sympathies for an afternoon of 4p Base games.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 04:55:20 pm
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we probably shouldn't turn this thread into a discussion about that, but this is like the worst episode of the entire show. come on  :o
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Post by: Tables on May 31, 2014, 04:56:43 pm
Today I went to the UK Games Expo and was recognised while wandering around by Qmech. Not by the fact my hoodie has a Dominion related quote and the name "Tables" on it, but by my face, which was posted in that thread a while back. I was pretty impressed.

I generally find it safest not to read things written on people's chests.

If any of the 16 entrants in tomorrow's Dominion tournament are around, you have my sympathies for an afternoon of 4p Base games.

I would be tempted to join anyway, just because it's still better than Goko Dominion, except it's a) full, b) starts too early for me and c) would take up the entire afternoon.

Today I went to the UK Games Expo and was recognised while wandering around by Qmech. Not by the fact my hoodie has a Dominion related quote and the name "Tables" on it, but by my face, which was posted in that thread a while back. I was pretty impressed.

The one with the party hats? I liked that photo. :D

It's that memorable, huh? It's still my photo on most social media I'm on :P.
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Post by: Kirian on May 31, 2014, 05:16:05 pm
I'm not debating that people think it's fun.

Just that's it's aimed at prepubescent children.

I'm going to actually argue with you on this point.  MLP is one of a (large) number of shows that are intended for multiple audiences.  Like Powerpuff Girls (another Lauren Faust creation), Animaniacs, and most Disney stuff, it's aimed at kids and the adults watching along with them.  It has to be, otherwise the parents wouldn't tolerate it.  What that means, of course, is that it can be appreciated by non-parents just as well.  Toy Story is generally considered one of the first movies to really hit the sweet spot on this, which is why the phrase "laser envy" refers not only to the original joke but more generally to humor aimed squarely at the parents and intended to fly over kids' heads.

And of course there's the second reason to aim humor at the adults:  cash.  Hasbro didn't create an MLP cartoon simply to provide children's TV, they did it to make a profit.  Selling hundreds of millions of dollars of merchandise requires parents to be interested as well.  See also:  Frozen.
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Post by: Titandrake on May 31, 2014, 05:18:38 pm
It's really interesting to play Base only games with other people who only play Base and aren't that good at game. Mostly, I try to build the engine no matter how implausible it should be, and it usually works out because everyone is buying lots of actions anyways. In a tournament though, that sounds pretty awful.

One last MLP thing: I think I've mentioned them before, but Doctor Whooves Adventures is also very approachable (and quite good) if you're a Whovian. It's convinced me to start watching the series proper, for what that's worth. There's also Doctor Whooves and Assistant, but that crossover leans more MLP.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 31, 2014, 06:04:37 pm
I've considered watching MLP before, having heard good things, but I'm pretty hesitant to do so at this point because of my knowledge of the toxic adult male fandom.  Yes, yes, not all bronies are bad people, but some really are.  I don't like that MLP is potentially an unsafe search term and the fetishization of ponies is just... ugh.

it's called clop.

mh... i'm trying really hard to avoid it, but I don't think it's a bad thing. a very close friend of mine consumes it occasionally, and also uses it to... y'know, and I don't really see an objective reason why that's bad. i mean, you don't hurt anyone else, as long as you keep it private and put it in spoilers if you post it somehwere. and since I pretty much manage not to see any of it despite the huge amounts of it that are out there, I'd say people are doing a fine job.

it's also fair to mention that there is "fetishization" of everything that has a big enough fandom, not just mlp. simpsons and south park are two good examples.

If it's not hurting anyone else, sure.  But the criticism with the MLP fandom is that stuff was rampant enough that parents had to worry about their kids searching up content on their favourite cartoon show.  I haven't heard about this becoming as big an issue with other such shows.  Maybe the problem is no longer as big as it once was?

Simpsons and South Park are both aimed primarily at adults.


More generally speaking, if MLP is mostly slice of life then I probably won't dig into it much.  I prefer stories with twisting plots and a huge mythos to discover.
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Post by: Lekkit on May 31, 2014, 06:11:41 pm
Time to rewatch Avatar: The Last Airbender, and Legend of Korra. :D
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Post by: Awaclus on May 31, 2014, 06:39:36 pm
Are we discussing animation in general now?

M dot Strange's Heart String Marionette is like the best thing ever.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 31, 2014, 06:43:18 pm
I've been rewatching FMA: Brotherhood.  I think I should read the manga, which I have never done.

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Post by: eHalcyon on May 31, 2014, 06:59:15 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/966aab56ceeae2b126cba5162d1b1075/tumblr_n66599PVmv1rspzoyo1_400.gif)
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Post by: Witherweaver on May 31, 2014, 07:21:45 pm
Anyone ever watch Serial Experiments: Lain?
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Post by: pingpongsam on May 31, 2014, 07:33:36 pm
Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
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Post by: Archetype on May 31, 2014, 07:38:10 pm
Gravity Falls
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Post by: pacovf on May 31, 2014, 07:50:29 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/966aab56ceeae2b126cba5162d1b1075/tumblr_n66599PVmv1rspzoyo1_400.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAmOMRpLHaw

The most Lannister person in all of India.
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 07:52:41 pm
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If it's not hurting anyone else, sure.  But the criticism with the MLP fandom is that stuff was rampant enough that parents had to worry about their kids searching up content on their favourite cartoon show.  I haven't heard about this becoming as big an issue with other such shows.  Maybe the problem is no longer as big as it once was?

oh, i see. well in that case, it's a real problem. makes me wonder where the kids are searching though, most sides i know hide clop by default, and only show it if you specifically ask for it. maybe it used to be different
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 07:57:46 pm
I'm tempted to go to the games expo tomorrow.

Won't be wearing a badge though, just in case anyone recognises me!
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 08:04:16 pm
And on another note, I'm just on my way home from a house party that was mainly filled with ravers, not my usual thing by a loooong shot, but the host was a friend of line and it was his birthday

I spent 20 minutes queing for what I thought was the toilet, turned out it was a line to take lines...... Awwwwwkward
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 08:24:18 pm
arghh... there is this thing flying around my screen and my keyboard... i hate that so much...
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Post by: Ozle on May 31, 2014, 08:42:10 pm
This thing or THE thing.
Because if its the second one, start running!
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Post by: silverspawn on May 31, 2014, 09:31:03 pm
this. flying. stuff. crap. fly? however you call it.

well, it's gone now, I think. I hope it flew outside...
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Post by: shraeye on May 31, 2014, 10:12:37 pm
Cranberry juice and rootbeer don't mix well.
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Post by: Lekkit on May 31, 2014, 11:07:52 pm
Well... You had rootbeer in the mix. I think that might be the problem.
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Post by: eHalcyon on May 31, 2014, 11:56:22 pm
Well... You had rootbeer in the mix. I think that might be the problem.

Yeah.  You should keep the root beer on its own and not taint it with cranberry juice.
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Post by: greatexpectations on May 31, 2014, 11:58:02 pm
And on another note, I'm just on my way home from a house party that was mainly filled with ravers, not my usual thing by a loooong shot, but the host was a friend of line and it was his birthday

I spent 20 minutes queing for what I thought was the toilet, turned out it was a line to take lines...... Awwwwwkward

something something mint joke
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Post by: sudgy on June 01, 2014, 01:33:39 am
Well... You had rootbeer in the mix. I think that might be the problem.

Yeah.  You should keep the root beer on its own and not taint it with cranberry juice.

Actually, root beer + milk tastes really good.
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Post by: Awaclus on June 01, 2014, 03:59:31 am
Anyone ever watch Serial Experiments: Lain?
I started watching it before Madoka Magica The Movie Part 3: The Rebellion Story was released on BD, but that kind of interrupted it. Seemed interesting, I'm definitely going to try again later.
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Post by: Titandrake on June 01, 2014, 04:20:12 am
Anyone ever watch Serial Experiments: Lain?
I started watching it before Madoka Magica The Movie Part 3: The Rebellion Story was released on BD, but that kind of interrupted it. Seemed interesting, I'm definitely going to try again later.

ooo, that reminds me. I need to try out Madoka.

My current bucketlist of shows to try out is some superset of Game of Thrones, Adventure Time, Madoka, FMA: Brotherhood, Code Geass, Evangelion...

More generally speaking, if MLP is mostly slice of life then I probably won't dig into it much.  I prefer stories with twisting plots and a huge mythos to discover.

If you were expecting an intricate mythos in a Saturday morning cartoon, you're gonna have a bad time. I bet there's counterexamples, but at best you get recurring villains or hints at an intricate history that the writers aren't going to bother fleshing out.
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Post by: shraeye on June 01, 2014, 09:09:59 am
Well... You had rootbeer in the mix. I think that might be the problem.

Yeah.  You should keep the root beer on its own and not taint it with cranberry juice.

Actually, root beer + milk tastes really good.
I'm definitely trying that.  Crazy combos are the best.
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Post by: Awaclus on June 01, 2014, 09:12:29 am
Well... You had rootbeer in the mix. I think that might be the problem.

Yeah.  You should keep the root beer on its own and not taint it with cranberry juice.

Actually, root beer + milk tastes really good.
I'm definitely trying that.  Crazy combos are the best.
Chocolate + pizza is the best.
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Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 01, 2014, 09:28:01 am
Well... You had rootbeer in the mix. I think that might be the problem.

Yeah.  You should keep the root beer on its own and not taint it with cranberry juice.

Actually, root beer + milk tastes really good.
I'm definitely trying that.  Crazy combos are the best.
Chocolate + pizza is the best.

Chocolate + rain is the best.
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Post by: ashersky on June 01, 2014, 09:59:43 am
Add me to the "doesn't get the mlp fandom" crowd.  I'm a dad, I've seen a few.  Drivel, annoying, terrible.  "Oh, I don't like this present that pony gave me, I think I'll re-gift it..." x4 or however many main ponies there are.  Guess what happens next.  A moral about honesty with your friends.

Adventure Time, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, Stephen Universe, I like kids shows.  But mlp is like Barney/Dora morality+education stuff.
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Post by: silverspawn on June 01, 2014, 11:13:09 am
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"Oh, I don't like this present that pony gave me, I think I'll re-gift it..." x4 or however many main ponies there are.  Guess what happens next.  A moral about honesty with your friends.

but... there is no episode with that premise  ???
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Post by: pacovf on June 01, 2014, 11:36:19 am
Mafia 43: Debate 3.1 (??? vs. ???): MLP can be enjoyed by adults.
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Post by: StrongRhino on June 01, 2014, 11:37:35 am
I'm a bit late, but also doing a Nuzlocke. I'm playing Soul Silver, I'm done with 4 gyms, and have already lost my starter. My current team is an Exeggcute, a Geodude, a Gyarados, a Crobat, a Dragonair, and a Ampharos.
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Post by: eHalcyon on June 01, 2014, 11:42:51 am
I'm a bit late, but also doing a Nuzlocke. I'm playing Soul Silver, I'm done with 4 gyms, and have already lost my starter. My current team is an Exeggcute, a Geodude, a Gyarados, a Crobat, a Dragonair, and a Ampharos.

You can get dratini that early?
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Post by: ashersky on June 01, 2014, 04:08:57 pm
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"Oh, I don't like this present that pony gave me, I think I'll re-gift it..." x4 or however many main ponies there are.  Guess what happens next.  A moral about honesty with your friends.

but... there is no episode with that premise  ???

Is there more than one mlp?  This had the ponies that can talk and look like the toys.  It was some holiday like Christmas where gifts were exchanged.  There was a book for the studious one, I recall.  Maybe a hairbrush for one?  One of the ponies had a Texan accent.
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Post by: Awaclus on June 01, 2014, 04:38:30 pm
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"Oh, I don't like this present that pony gave me, I think I'll re-gift it..." x4 or however many main ponies there are.  Guess what happens next.  A moral about honesty with your friends.

but... there is no episode with that premise  ???

Is there more than one mlp?  This had the ponies that can talk and look like the toys.  It was some holiday like Christmas where gifts were exchanged.  There was a book for the studious one, I recall.  Maybe a hairbrush for one?  One of the ponies had a Texan accent.
With MLP, people usually refer to My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, especially in the context where adults are watching it.
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Post by: ashersky on June 01, 2014, 05:01:25 pm
Actually, my mistake.  I take back my comment above, and re-aim it at Strawberry Shortcake.  The episode "Happy First Frost" is what I was referring to.

I've seen part of a mlp where they go into a cave, but don't recall anything else.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 01, 2014, 07:56:36 pm
Actually, my mistake.  I take back my comment above, and re-aim it at Strawberry Shortcake.

fine with me  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 01, 2014, 08:26:30 pm
Actually, my mistake.  I take back my comment above, and re-aim it at Strawberry Shortcake.

Yes... alas, Strawberry Shortcake doesn't have nearly the writing staff that MLP does.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on June 01, 2014, 08:58:16 pm
Actually, my mistake.  I take back my comment above, and re-aim it at Strawberry Shortcake.  The episode "Happy First Frost" is what I was referring to.

I've seen part of a mlp where they go into a cave, but don't recall anything else.
It's entirely possible one of the older generations of the show had that kind of premise. The latest version of MLP toned down a lot of the tea-parties-and-pink-dresses style and went for something a little closer to more boy-focused or gender-neutral cartoons, where the characters are a lot more varied in personality and are just as likely to go on adventures as have a slumber party. I enjoy the show, and some parts of the fandom (generally the music and the comics), and I'm glad it exists, but I'm also aware that it's not the greatest thing ever for everyone.

My current bucketlist of shows to try out is some superset of Game of Thrones, Adventure Time, Madoka, FMA: Brotherhood, Code Geass, Evangelion...
When you say Evangelion, are you talking about the original series or the reboot movies? I still haven't gotten around to the new movies, but the old series was definitely one of the original WTF shows of its time. Worth watching to see the creator's psyche collapse made evident through the characters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 01, 2014, 10:30:03 pm
When you say Evangelion, are you talking about the original series or the reboot movies? I still haven't gotten around to the new movies, but the old series was definitely one of the original WTF shows of its time. Worth watching to see the creator's psyche collapse made evident through the characters.
You have seen End of Evangelion, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 01, 2014, 11:10:54 pm
When you say Evangelion, are you talking about the original series or the reboot movies? I still haven't gotten around to the new movies, but the old series was definitely one of the original WTF shows of its time. Worth watching to see the creator's psyche collapse made evident through the characters.
You have seen End of Evangelion, right?
Oh man, End of Evangelion. I actually preferred the ending of the original anime series to that movie. End of Evangelion had too many extended scenes of pointlessly symbolic events. I remember hearing that the creator wasn't excited about making it just so the fans have the closure they felt they needed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 02, 2014, 12:39:37 am
If you aren't already watching Orphan Black, you should be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on June 02, 2014, 01:23:51 am
If you aren't already watching Orphan Black, you should be.

It's free for Amazon prime users as I just found out!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 02, 2014, 01:24:57 am
If you aren't already watching Orphan Black, you should be.

Are there two versions, like a British one and an American one?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 02, 2014, 01:37:05 am
Definitely on my shortlist
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 02, 2014, 01:58:26 am
If you aren't already watching Orphan Black, you should be.

Are there two versions, like a British one and an American one?

Not that I'm aware.  It's a Canadian show actually, airing in the US on BBC America (and in Canada on Space).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 02, 2014, 10:12:35 am
Drat. I bought Shadow Hunters yesterday, but our weekly game day is going to be reduced from 7 players to 5 tonight. I could play it with 5 players, but I get the feeling it would be more fun with more players.

Well, at least 5 of us puts us in the realm of Sentinels of the Multiverse.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 02, 2014, 11:17:12 am
Cute: http://imgur.com/gallery/M5wl14r
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 02, 2014, 03:32:23 pm
So in today's local Metro newspaper, they ran a little fluff piece about Canadian English.  I don't know the accuracy, but apparently "washroom" and "pencil crayons" are almost exclusively Canadian terms.  I had no idea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 02, 2014, 04:03:59 pm
So in today's local Metro newspaper, they ran a little fluff piece about Canadian English.  I don't know the accuracy, but apparently "washroom" and "pencil crayons" are almost exclusively Canadian terms.  I had no idea.

I've heard "washroom" used in America before.

Pencil crayons is a term I'm not familiar with.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 02, 2014, 04:06:30 pm
So in today's local Metro newspaper, they ran a little fluff piece about Canadian English.  I don't know the accuracy, but apparently "washroom" and "pencil crayons" are almost exclusively Canadian terms.  I had no idea.

I've heard "washroom" used in America before.

Pencil crayons is a term I'm not familiar with.

The article says that the rest of the world calls them "coloured pencils".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 02, 2014, 04:08:30 pm
It's just more polite to call them pencil crayons.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 02, 2014, 04:09:18 pm
It's just more polite to call them pencil crayons.

Not sure if race joke or Canadian politeness joke. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on June 02, 2014, 04:13:13 pm
The article says that the rest of the world calls them "coloured pencils".

Not in the US.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 02, 2014, 04:14:07 pm
It's just more polite to call them pencil crayons.

Not sure if race joke or Canadian politeness joke. :P

Canadian Fry:

Not sure if racist or complementary... better apologize just to be safe.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 02, 2014, 04:17:16 pm
It's just more polite to call them pencil crayons.

Not sure if race joke or Canadian politeness joke. :P
I always make sure to keep my colored pencils separated from my regular ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 02, 2014, 04:20:24 pm
Im not even sure i know what coloured pencils is exactly referring too....but its probably one lf the things i stuck up my nose as a child
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 02, 2014, 04:24:00 pm
It's just more polite to call them pencil crayons.

Not sure if race joke or Canadian politeness joke. :P

Yeah I was going for Canadian politeness, but I guess the joke works on two levels, so feel free to upvote it twice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 02, 2014, 05:00:28 pm
I was in Canada once. When we got back to the USA we immediately went to a bar and ordered burgers and pitchers of beer and were so happy we weren't in Canada anymore.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 02, 2014, 05:05:10 pm
I was in Canada once. When we got back to the USA we immediately went to a bar and ordered burgers and pitchers of beer and were so happy we weren't in Canada anymore.
Sorry to disturb you. Can you please not say things that will make people not want to come to Canada? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, eh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 02, 2014, 05:13:46 pm
The article says that the rest of the world calls them "coloured pencils".

Not in the US.

That's right, yo keep yor commie-fascist "U"s ot of or contry!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 02, 2014, 05:15:12 pm
Weird the Brits seem to think the US don't use enough U's!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 02, 2014, 05:27:17 pm
I'm actually traveling to Toronto and Montreal next month. I'm looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on June 02, 2014, 05:50:10 pm
I've never been to Canada. I've been to USA once. It was fun. I do want to visit Canada sometime. It sounds kind of like a larger Sweden. And people talk funny. :D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silvern on June 02, 2014, 05:55:16 pm
I just noticed; a thread has finally caught up with Homage in terms of page count!
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Post by: Axxle on June 02, 2014, 06:25:47 pm
I just noticed; a thread has finally caught up with Homage in terms of page count!
It just took a thread about literally everything to do so.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 02, 2014, 06:42:42 pm
I just noticed; a thread has finally caught up with Homage in terms of page count!

Hey, welcome aboard silverne!

You do realise now you have posted here thats it, you are stuck here.

Just ask markusin, he only came to talk about hus exam results, now he is stuck here talking gibberish like the rest of them!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on June 02, 2014, 07:05:56 pm
Sorry to disturb you. Can you please not say things that will make people not want to come to Canada? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, eh.
http://harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=250
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 03, 2014, 12:40:23 am
So in today's local Metro newspaper, they ran a little fluff piece about Canadian English.  I don't know the accuracy, but apparently "washroom" and "pencil crayons" are almost exclusively Canadian terms.  I had no idea.

I call them pencil crayons.  That could easily come from my mom being raised in Canada though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 03, 2014, 04:25:05 am
"Pencil crayons" always confused me.  "Crayons" always meant wax crayons, and my school happened to have wax crayons in the shape of pencils (which are awesome, by the way, and such fun to sharpen). 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on June 03, 2014, 06:30:57 am
"Pencil crayons" always confused me.  "Crayons" always meant wax crayons, and my school happened to have wax crayons in the shape of pencils (which are awesome, by the way, and such fun to sharpen). 

As with most things weird about Canada, it's probably our fault : crayon just means pencil in French. What you call crayons we call pastels.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on June 03, 2014, 06:53:28 am
Pastels are just bright colors in Sweden.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 03, 2014, 07:30:11 am
I just noticed; a thread has finally caught up with Homage in terms of page count!

Hey, welcome aboard silverne!

You do realise now you have posted here thats it, you are stuck here.

Just ask markusin, he only came to talk about hus exam results, now he is stuck here talking gibberish like the rest of them!
I'm glad someone's keeping track. I totally forgot what my first post on this thread was.

I had one Beanie Baby as a child. It was a frog. My sister and I would sometimes draft them from her collection and then we'd have them fight against each other.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 03, 2014, 09:38:05 am
Pastel is cake in Spanish. The cake is a lie. Lie has a kind of group named after him. And a kind group is probably Canadian. The circle is complete.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 03, 2014, 11:53:54 am
Pastels are just bright colors in Sweden.

Weird! The English definition of "pastel" is a subdued colour, not a bright one.
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Post by: Lekkit on June 03, 2014, 02:07:59 pm
Well, they aren't just bright. But also, not very saturated. But they are bright.
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Post by: eHalcyon on June 03, 2014, 02:10:34 pm
Well, they aren't just bright. But also, not very saturated. But they are bright.

Ah, the technical definition of bright instead of colloquial.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 03, 2014, 02:12:14 pm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7YwLQSTo_ow&feature=kp
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 03, 2014, 03:35:58 pm
I was going to link the similar "Saruman is a bully!", but then I thought...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ot9JtiHhiU
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 03, 2014, 07:20:17 pm
I don't know what version they're playing now, but apparently TPP caught a shiny Xatu.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on June 03, 2014, 09:30:16 pm
When you say Evangelion, are you talking about the original series or the reboot movies? I still haven't gotten around to the new movies, but the old series was definitely one of the original WTF shows of its time. Worth watching to see the creator's psyche collapse made evident through the characters.
You have seen End of Evangelion, right?
I saw it at the official Australian release, which was pretty cool. Also a little weird, since I'd watched the whole series dubbed (twice over thanks to our national multicultural broadcaster) but when the EoE screening offered both options I went for the sub.

I don't know what version they're playing now, but apparently TPP caught a shiny Xatu.
I think they're still on the randomised HeartGold. At least, that's what they were on last I checked.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 03, 2014, 11:20:17 pm
http://youtu.be/043WEs_6TAo
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 04, 2014, 01:01:45 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/new-video-alphabetizes-every-single-word-in-star-wars-87722635597.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 04, 2014, 05:22:58 pm
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/new-video-alphabetizes-every-single-word-in-star-wars-87722635597.html

I think only one thing can sum up my opinion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GFW-eEWXlc#t=1165 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GFW-eEWXlc#t=1165)

(hopefully it'll default to the correct place in the video, if not: ~19:25 in)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 04, 2014, 05:43:59 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxDuNFBVj8
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 04, 2014, 08:02:55 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 04, 2014, 09:01:39 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 04, 2014, 09:02:45 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Baseball in general is terrible.

;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 04, 2014, 09:35:54 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 04, 2014, 09:52:09 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.

That does seem like the person's asking to get smacked.  More fun would be to wear, say, a (NY) Rangers jersey to a Nats/Phillies game, just to make everyone scratch their heads.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 04, 2014, 09:54:18 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.

That does seem like the person's asking to get smacked.  More fun would be to wear, say, a (NY) Rangers jersey to a Nats/Phillies game, just to make everyone scratch their heads.

Well I saw that too and that doesn't bother me nearly as much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 04, 2014, 10:01:40 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.

greatexpectations and I once wore mets jerseys to a phillies/brewers game. The point was in fact to be obnoxious. Though there's an actual mets/phillies rivalry, so we knew it would cause trouble. But we only got mooned once. Yankees jerseys don't really have any place with nats/phils.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on June 04, 2014, 11:09:42 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.

"I'm at a baseball game, I own one jersey, I'm wearing it." I don't really have a problem with it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 04, 2014, 11:35:56 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.

"I'm at a baseball game, I own one jersey, I'm wearing it." I don't really have a problem with it

If it's a Jay Buhner Mariners jersey or a Frank Robinson Orioles jersey, fine.  But Yankees fans...you can't even know if they are a real fan.

I wear my Mariners Griffey jersey to Reds games (as a Reds fan) sometimes, although not so much now given he's so old.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 04, 2014, 11:41:19 pm
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.

"I'm at a baseball game, I own one jersey, I'm wearing it." I don't really have a problem with it

If it's a Jay Buhner Mariners jersey or a Frank Robinson Orioles jersey, fine.  But Yankees fans...you can't even know if they are a real fan.

I wear my Mariners Griffey jersey to Reds games (as a Reds fan) sometimes, although not so much now given he's so old.

Yeah but he was with the Reds for eight years. But there's no reason for someone to wear a Ryan Zimmerman jersey to a SF/Houston game, for example.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 05, 2014, 12:17:18 am
Someone please explain this phenomenon to me:

Wearing a Yankees jersey to a Nationals/Phillies game.

Yankees fans are terrible.

(Although, to be fair, so are Phillies fans.)

Well yeah I agree (besides my girlfriend, who is a Phillies fan). But I'm just curious in general why people wear clothes representing a team that isn't even playing. It's obnoxious.

"I'm at a baseball game, I own one jersey, I'm wearing it." I don't really have a problem with it

If it's a Jay Buhner Mariners jersey or a Frank Robinson Orioles jersey, fine.  But Yankees fans...you can't even know if they are a real fan.

I wear my Mariners Griffey jersey to Reds games (as a Reds fan) sometimes, although not so much now given he's so old.

Yeah but he was with the Reds for eight years. But there's no reason for someone to wear a Ryan Zimmerman jersey to a SF/Houston game, for example.

I guess a Nats fan going to a Astros game with a friend could.  It wouldn't be that obnoxious, I suppose.  Sort of a badge of neutrality.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 12:20:31 am
It's not annoying to me from a baseball rivalry perspective, I just don't think it makes any sense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on June 05, 2014, 12:36:26 am
What if they were a Yankees fan?  You bought the jersey, and what's a better time to wear a baseball jersey than at a baseball game?  It's certainly more appropriate than just wearing it around Philadelphia, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 05, 2014, 12:42:37 am
What if they were a Yankees fan?  You bought the jersey, and what's a better time to wear a baseball jersey than at a baseball game?  It's certainly more appropriate than just wearing it around Philadelphia, right?

I disagree.  I'll often wear fan gear (shirts, hats, jerseys, jumpers) around the town to show my support/fandom.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 05, 2014, 08:07:49 am
I suppose it's my sports-apathy showing, but I don't see why it's a big deal to wear a nonrelated jersey to a game. Sure, a jersey could make a statement, but it's an article of clothing that celebrates a particular team. Sometimes it's not meant to be a statement.

It's like someone getting attacked for daring to wear the wrong color in gang territory. The person might not be trying to challenge your authority.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 05, 2014, 10:10:43 am
It shows a good side of baseball.

If you did that at a football match you'd get a right kicking.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 10:24:55 am
Wear your Yankees jersey any other time you want or at a Yankees game. Spend $20 for a Nats cap if you're going to a Nats game. If you're a Yankees fan and you're stuck in DC and you don't like the Nats and you just want to see some goddamn baseball then just wear something else. But I STILL don't see the point in wearing the jersey.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 10:26:42 am
What if they were a Yankees fan?  You bought the jersey, and what's a better time to wear a baseball jersey than at a baseball game?  It's certainly more appropriate than just wearing it around Philadelphia, right?

I disagree.  I'll often wear fan gear (shirts, hats, jerseys, jumpers) around the town to show my support/fandom.

Me too. I've worn Nats gear all around the country just doing whatever but I'm not just going to walk into a Twins/O's game wearing a Nats cap. It doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 05, 2014, 10:37:57 am
Sports are weird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 10:44:23 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z59mVfqT53g
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on June 05, 2014, 11:06:23 am
Here's how it is to me. I like a certain team. But I'm still interested in the sport. Why can't I show my support for my team even if they aren't playing? I don't see a problem with wearing a Yankee hat or whatever to a game where they aren't playing. Should only supporters of the teams playing be allowed to watch? Sounds pretty weird to me.

What does get me is that for some reason people in Sweden keep wearing New York Yankees merchandise. And a lot of them don't know it's a baseball team. But the brand is popular. So people wear it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 11:16:11 am
I'm not arguing about being allowed to watch. I'm arguing about wearing gear of a team not involved in the game you're going to. I guess it's just a pet peeve of mine but I can't think of a good reason to do it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 01:03:22 pm
The post office just charged me $15 to take my picture. Need I say more?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 05, 2014, 01:06:59 pm
It certainly must be equivalent to wearing sports-team merchandice when you're not at a sports event at all.  In both cases, you're not watching that team play.

Of course, I don't understand the prolific sports team branding.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 05, 2014, 01:30:31 pm
The post office just charged me $15 to take my picture. Need I say more?

What the hell??
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 05, 2014, 01:37:04 pm
I'd have done it for $12
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 01:42:10 pm
I'd have done it for $12

Yeah but at the post office I didn't have to take my shirt off.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 05, 2014, 01:45:22 pm
I'd have done it for $12

Yeah but at the post office I didn't have to take my shirt off.

Haha, your a drummer, like you need a reason to take your shirt off...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 05, 2014, 02:10:55 pm
Sports by Huey Lewis and the News video

I tried to listen to this, but my wife has some Smooth McGroove playing for our son downstairs. It really threw me off. I'll try to listen again later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhy2aNEPshw
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on June 05, 2014, 07:20:13 pm
Has anyone here played One Tap Quest? I just beat it.

http://shimage.net/one-tap-quest/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 05, 2014, 08:09:46 pm
Has anyone here played One Tap Quest? I just beat it.

http://shimage.net/one-tap-quest/

Just tried.  Game clear, 14400.  I have no idea what happened.  Why did my guy suddenly turn into 3 guys?  Why did he teleport a couple of times?  I am confused.  Cute concept though.

Edit: Just did it again.  14800 this time.  OK, the blue map teleports you back randomly?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 05, 2014, 08:27:56 pm
I just got 14100.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 05, 2014, 08:35:26 pm
16400 beat that chumps

Edit: 20700
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 05, 2014, 08:39:15 pm
16400 beat that chumps

Edit: 20700

I came here to say 15500...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 05, 2014, 08:39:35 pm
15100~
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 05, 2014, 08:40:29 pm
Has anyone here played One Tap Quest? I just beat it.

http://shimage.net/one-tap-quest/

Just tried.  Game clear, 14400.  I have no idea what happened.  Why did my guy suddenly turn into 3 guys?  Why did he teleport a couple of times?  I am confused.  Cute concept though.

Edit: Just did it again.  14800 this time.  OK, the blue map teleports you back randomly?
Depends on the pickups yeah. Blue random teleports, yellow shoots damaging spell in diagonal directions, beer gets a party, not sure about shield and sword seem to just level you?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 05, 2014, 08:45:33 pm
Well, 18900.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 05, 2014, 09:05:29 pm
17400 for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 05, 2014, 09:11:52 pm
Ha! 22000.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 05, 2014, 09:12:49 pm
19500.  so that puts me in third place for f.ds right now?

edit: 20200

had a couple minutes of free time: 20700
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 10:08:17 pm
Am I missing something? How are you guys getting such ridiculous scores?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 05, 2014, 10:20:17 pm
Am I missing something? How are you guys getting such ridiculous scores?

Are you strategizing?  That's all I'm doing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 10:22:14 pm
Am I missing something? How are you guys getting such ridiculous scores?

Are you strategizing?  That's all I'm doing.

Strate-what now?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on June 05, 2014, 10:40:23 pm
Can only get 14,000 :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 05, 2014, 11:10:03 pm
16,200 is my best so far.

Somebody better +1 this, if only to look out for the OCDers around here.

For the love of god will somebody please think of the OCDers!?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 06, 2014, 02:32:32 am
18,100 after finally beating it. Got really lucky on the teleport I hit, it sent me into a huge group of enemies due to having beer, and taking them all out both moved me backwards (through more enemies) and shot me up to like level 8.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 06, 2014, 02:43:28 am
Only got 15800 when I beat it.

Some maybe interesting stuff from reading the source code:

Killing enemies gives you 100*(exp earned) points.
Killing the boss gives you 10000 points.
The blue item is not a random teleport. It teleports you back 40 pixels and right 80 pixels. If you would go off the screen, you teleport 80 pixels to the left instead.
The shield and sword give you enough exp to get to the next level, but doesn't give you any points.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on June 06, 2014, 02:55:14 am
19700.  Took me a few minutes to figure out what the heck was actually going on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on June 06, 2014, 04:48:20 am
Just watched the midnight premiere of The Fault in Our Stars and I am not okay.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 06, 2014, 07:05:07 am
Okay.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 06, 2014, 08:16:16 am
Have you read the book?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 06, 2014, 08:21:21 am
Gus dies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 06, 2014, 08:23:16 am
Gus bangs Hazel. They are both virgins.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 06, 2014, 10:38:15 am
Does anyone want to build a website for me? Super simple thing with a menu at the top, a couple photos and music samples. I'll mail you a pop tart or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 06, 2014, 11:55:48 am
I'm not arguing about being allowed to watch. I'm arguing about wearing gear of a team not involved in the game you're going to. I guess it's just a pet peeve of mine but I can't think of a good reason to do it.

I was told to turn my Dominion shirt inside out at a Seven Wonders tournament once.*


*Totally didn't happen. No one wants me see me disrobe.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 06, 2014, 02:33:00 pm
I'm not arguing about being allowed to watch. I'm arguing about wearing gear of a team not involved in the game you're going to. I guess it's just a pet peeve of mine but I can't think of a good reason to do it.

I was told to turn my Dominion shirt inside out at a Seven Wonders tournament once.

This is the kind of disgusting behaviour I can't tolerate. How DARE you attend a tournament for a game other than Dominion‽
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 06, 2014, 02:35:02 pm
True story:

I have a T-shirt that says 'Greedo shot first' that I wear to Geek meetings...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 06, 2014, 02:55:31 pm
Somebody went and recreated Cones of Dunshire (http://www.cephalofair.com/2014/06/chronicles-dunshire.html).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 06, 2014, 03:09:12 pm
Somebody went and recreated Cones of Dunshire (http://www.cephalofair.com/2014/06/chronicles-dunshire.html).

Soooo we're gonna play this right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on June 06, 2014, 03:14:46 pm
Have you read the book?

I have not. I hadn't even seen any previews or anything. I knew nothing and I was woefully unprepared.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on June 06, 2014, 03:15:58 pm
Somebody went and recreated Cones of Dunshire (http://www.cephalofair.com/2014/06/chronicles-dunshire.html).

Soooo we're gonna play this right?

THEOREL!!!! MAKE US A SPREADSHEET.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 07, 2014, 02:39:41 am
Just got back from playing Keyflower for the first time with 4 other new players.  It was great.  I think the final spread of points at the end was less than 10 between first and last.  There was one player who would have won handily but she got outbid on a key tile even though she'd invested 4 meeples with her bid.  It was huge.  Great game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on June 07, 2014, 02:14:57 pm
If any of you are fans of Final Fantasy or SNES era jRPGs, you should definitely check out a game called Last Dream on steam.  I'm about 40 hours or so into it, and it is pretty awesome.  Pretty much a group of guys who grew up with the same games I did decided to combine elements to make an awesome SNES style game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 07, 2014, 05:37:58 pm
Just had Lords of Waterdeep delivered....quite looking forward to playing it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 07, 2014, 09:30:04 pm
Just had Lords of Waterdeep delivered....quite looking forward to playing it

Lords of Waterdeep is pretty good, but I recommend against getting the expansion unless you want to double the game length for no good reason and stop anyone wanting to play with you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 07, 2014, 11:55:39 pm
hnnnnnng

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140607/log.518171c5e4b00de2f7e3ac32.1402198770410.txt

I just did the best comeback I've ever done in a Dominion game. On turn 11, my opponent got 3 Provinces from Horn of Plenty. On turn 12, I draw my deck for the first time, gaining a Province from a HoP and buying a Mint. On turn 13, I manage to draw my deck again, but don't have 8 uniques because I actually needed that Copper I trashed to get there. We both stall for a turn. On his last turn he's exactly one buy away from winning with a 3 pile, and on my last turn I get 8 uniques and gain the remaining Provinces and enough Duchies to win.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 08, 2014, 12:07:16 am
Just had Lords of Waterdeep delivered....quite looking forward to playing it

Lords of Waterdeep is pretty good, but I recommend against getting the expansion unless you want to double the game length for no good reason and stop anyone wanting to play with you.

Oh man, the expansion is just too awesome though!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 08, 2014, 12:10:29 am
hnnnnnng

http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?/20140607/log.518171c5e4b00de2f7e3ac32.1402198770410.txt

I just did the best comeback I've ever done in a Dominion game. On turn 11, my opponent got 3 Provinces from Horn of Plenty. On turn 12, I draw my deck for the first time, gaining a Province from a HoP and buying a Mint. On turn 13, I manage to draw my deck again, but don't have 8 uniques because I actually needed that Copper I trashed to get there. We both stall for a turn. On his last turn he's exactly one buy away from winning with a 3 pile, and on my last turn I get 8 uniques and gain the remaining Provinces and enough Duchies to win.

Dominion doesn't exist in this thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 08, 2014, 12:46:09 am
Reported.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 08, 2014, 01:06:57 am
I bought RPGMaker in the last humble bundle. I'm gonna make some seriously mediocre SNES era RPG's once I figure out how this program even works.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 08, 2014, 01:27:56 am
I bought RPGMaker in the last humble bundle. I'm gonna make some seriously mediocre SNES era RPG's once I figure out how this program even works.

RPG Maker is pretty nice.  If you know how to program, using the scripting is extremely useful (my brother thinks so as well, when I'm the one that programs...).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on June 08, 2014, 09:42:56 am
Who's down for a game of monopsony (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3383#comic)?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 08, 2014, 09:43:54 am
Who's down for a game of monopsony (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3383#comic)?

I shouldn't think you'll find many takers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 08, 2014, 10:11:10 am
Who's down for a game of monopsony (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3383#comic)?

As long as I am the buyer
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 09, 2014, 12:46:00 pm
I received a call from Bank of America (which I let go to voicemail). They were calling because of a suspicious transaction on my card. Sure enough, when I checked online, there was a charge I didn't make. I called the number they left, but things got really suspicious when they asked for my social security number and other personal details I didn't think they needed. So I ditched that call, and called BoA on the number listed on the back of my card. They cancelled my card and refunded the fraudulent charge. Turns out, they've been seeing this scam a lot recently.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on June 09, 2014, 12:47:31 pm
Who's down for a game of monopsony (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3383#comic)?
Hmmm, could this be turned into an actual board game?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 09, 2014, 01:35:25 pm
Someone needs to turn in his programmer card.

While working in this application, I decided to sort my files by date modified. I was baffled that there was only one file modified in 2014, when I knew there were at least two. So I sorted again. Then I saw what this program's definition of sorting the dates was.

Apr 29 2014
Apr 30 2013
Aug 14 2012
Aug 29 2011
Dec 02 2011
Jun 26 2012
Mar 03 2014
Mar 28 2012
Sep 05 2013

Great, thanks. That's so useful. I always work in an alphabetical timeline where April comes before August, as well as before March.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on June 09, 2014, 03:57:20 pm
I've started to do programming at my job. I've never programmed before, and I'm having HUGE issues keeping going all day. I'm really productives in the morning, and then completely burn out in the afternoon -- I just can't stand to look at code anymore.

For those of you who program productively all day, any advice to keep productivity going all day?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 09, 2014, 03:59:04 pm
http://xkcd.com/303/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 09, 2014, 06:04:45 pm
Does anyone want to build a website for me? Super simple thing with a menu at the top, a couple photos and music samples. I'll mail you a pop tart or something.

Did you manage to convince a sucker to do this for you?
 I really want to build the google maps challenges into a website....but i'm either too stupid or lazy to build one...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 09, 2014, 07:44:42 pm
Does anyone want to build a website for me? Super simple thing with a menu at the top, a couple photos and music samples. I'll mail you a pop tart or something.

Did you manage to convince a sucker to do this for you?
 I really want to build the google maps challenges into a website....but i'm either too stupid or lazy to build one...

No but I think it'd be a cool project. It's for a band I'm in called White Loafer. I mean, who doesn't want to be a part of White Loafer? Seriously!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on June 09, 2014, 08:06:06 pm
Wordpress might be good for your needs.  It's pretty simple.  Alternatively use Facebook?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 09, 2014, 08:39:15 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/59427e64f716f7683601bc9ef5e40802/tumblr_n5snlxJorq1qdlh1io1_400.gif)

Flap.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 10, 2014, 06:00:02 am
[gif]

Flap.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like this could actually work as a Wii/Kinect game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 10, 2014, 09:22:35 am
[gif]

Flap.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like this could actually work as a Wii/Kinect game.

How long until we really do get a face controller for Wii/Kinect, etc?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 10, 2014, 09:57:17 am
[gif]

Flap.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like this could actually work as a Wii/Kinect game.

How long until we really do get a face controller for Wii/Kinect, etc?

I'm gonna say... 2 hours.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 10, 2014, 11:04:40 am
I saw someone in a really awesome T-Shirt yesterday:
(https://images.teefury.com/products_images_flat/1372787879_t-MCO-obey.png)

Too bad there doesn't seem to be a German shop selling this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 10, 2014, 12:42:01 pm
[gif]

Flap.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like this could actually work as a Wii/Kinect game.

It would be even harder than this:

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140327134424/wiisportsresortwalkthrough/images/0/09/Birds_eye_bulls_eye_screenshot.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 10, 2014, 12:55:24 pm
I had a dream that someone got 700+ respect for a post!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 10, 2014, 01:02:17 pm
I had a dream that someone got 700+ respect for a post!
inb4 theory makes that actually happen
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 10, 2014, 01:36:45 pm
I had a dream that someone got 700+ respect for a post!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg285310#msg285310
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 10, 2014, 01:43:43 pm
I had a dream that someone got 700+ respect for a post!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg285310#msg285310
Gasp, my dream came true!

I'll try not to let this newfound power affect my life too much.

*waits for Christina Hendricks to come through his door*
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 10, 2014, 02:01:04 pm
With great power comes great responsibility.

Uncle Ben would definitely approve of your usage.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 02:02:34 pm
I had a dream I was eating a giant marshmallow.....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 10, 2014, 04:01:52 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/0713595bfd8fba0b8c8246df3d0306cb/tumblr_n6yqq16dZJ1r76jb7o1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 10, 2014, 04:48:16 pm
My girlfriend and I are moving out of the basement and into a sweet ass apartment! Now I just have to pack up my CD collection:

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg) (http://s96.photobucket.com/user/AndrewisFTTW/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 10, 2014, 05:17:26 pm
My girlfriend and I are moving out of the basement and into a sweet ass apartment! Now I just have to pack up my CD collection:

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg) (http://s96.photobucket.com/user/AndrewisFTTW/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg.html)

I heard they're coming out with a way to have music on your personal computer soon.  That might help.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 10, 2014, 05:45:05 pm
My girlfriend and I are moving out of the basement and into a sweet ass apartment! Now I just have to pack up my CD collection:

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg) (http://s96.photobucket.com/user/AndrewisFTTW/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg.html)

I heard they're coming out with a way to have music on your personal computer soon.  That might help.

Smartass.

The main reason I'm quoting this post however is to start a quote chain with that massive image. Let's go.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 10, 2014, 05:49:04 pm
My girlfriend and I are moving out of the basement and into a sweet ass apartment! Now I just have to pack up my CD collection:

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg) (http://s96.photobucket.com/user/AndrewisFTTW/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg.html)

I heard they're coming out with a way to have music on your personal computer soon.  That might help.

Smartass.

The main reason I'm quoting this post however is to start a quote chain with that massive image. Let's go.
C-C-Combobreaker!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 10, 2014, 05:58:02 pm
My girlfriend and I are moving out of the basement and into a sweet ass apartment! Now I just have to pack up my CD collection:

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg) (http://s96.photobucket.com/user/AndrewisFTTW/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg.html)

I heard they're coming out with a way to have music on your personal computer soon.  That might help.

Smartass.

The main reason I'm quoting this post however is to start a quote chain with that massive image. Let's go.
C-C-Combobreaker!

thanks for resizing the picture
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 10, 2014, 06:01:47 pm
My girlfriend and I are moving out of the basement and into a sweet ass apartment! Now I just have to pack up my CD collection:

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg) (http://s96.photobucket.com/user/AndrewisFTTW/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140610_164435_zpsakukrexy.jpg.html)

I heard they're coming out with a way to have music on your personal computer soon.  That might help.

Smartass.

The main reason I'm quoting this post however is to start a quote chain with that massive image. Let's go.
C-C-Combobreaker!

thanks for resizing the picture

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 10, 2014, 06:05:27 pm
It just doesn't have the same effect when it's resized.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 06:06:09 pm
CD's?!?

I thought real musicians only had Vinyls!!

Oh wait, I forget.... Drummer
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 10, 2014, 06:10:07 pm
CD's?!?

I thought real musicians only had Vinyls!!

Oh wait, I forget.... Drummer

My vinyl collection isn't nearly as impressive. My tape collection on the other hand...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 10, 2014, 06:11:03 pm
Oh wait, I forget.... Drummer

You are so jealous of my drumming abilities and it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 06:14:06 pm
Oh wait, I forget.... Drummer

You are so jealous of my drumming abilities and it's hilarious.

This is true
I cannot even hum in tune.....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 10, 2014, 06:22:25 pm
Oh wait, I forget.... Drummer

You are so jealous of my drumming abilities and it's hilarious.

This is true
I cannot even hum in tune.....

If I'm ever in Tuvalu I'll give you a lesson... for 100 dawras!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 10, 2014, 06:24:40 pm
Oh wait, I forget.... Drummer

You are so jealous of my drumming abilities and it's hilarious.

This is true
I cannot even hum in tune.....
I can hum and whistle in tune at the same time!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 06:27:14 pm
I do wish people would keep up, I don't live in Tuvalu now!

What's the point of making up a hilarious back story if people don't pay attention!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 10, 2014, 06:29:48 pm
I do wish people would keep up, I don't live in Tuvalu now!

What's the point of making up a hilarious back story if people don't pay attention!

I refuse to believe you left Tuvalu for London. That's just... no.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 10, 2014, 06:29:56 pm
I do wish people would keep up, I don't live in Tuvalu now!

What's the point of making up a hilarious back story if people don't pay attention!
Your story has surpassed the storyteller and become legend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 06:33:27 pm
Fun fact.... I wrote a proper story/ book thing once
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 06:35:37 pm
I do wish people would keep up, I don't live in Tuvalu now!

What's the point of making up a hilarious back story if people don't pay attention!

I refuse to believe you left Tuvalu for London. That's just... no.

I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.

Obviously I slipped away noisily though, any excuse for a party.....(although that's how it started with the chieftains daughter)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 10, 2014, 06:42:07 pm
I can fly to Tuvalu in 13.5 hours, with only one stop.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 06:45:01 pm
I iried to fly there once.....but my arms got tired
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 10, 2014, 06:57:39 pm
I iried to fly there once.....but my arms got tired

Usually it's the giant green pipes that get you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on June 10, 2014, 07:09:11 pm
I had a dream I was eating a giant marshmallow.....
I dreamed I was working in a factory making giant marshmallows. When I woke up, I had an extra pillow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on June 10, 2014, 07:12:42 pm
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 07:17:49 pm
On Tuvalu you NEVER leave your coconuts unguarded.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 10, 2014, 07:24:00 pm
On Tuvalu you NEVER leave your coconuts unguarded.

Which is coincidently the title of the book i wrote!

(Note: its not really, the book is about a man who is highly suspicious of penguins)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 10, 2014, 07:24:37 pm
What's the point of making up a hilarious back story if people don't pay attention!

That reminds me, I was in a musical of Charlotte's Web, and we said that the main human characters were actually aliens who came to Earth and took over it.  All of the animals were brainwashed humans, and a whole bunch of other stuff.  It was pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 10, 2014, 08:02:04 pm
Fun fact.... I wrote a proper story/ book thing once

Fun fact: I am illiterate.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 10, 2014, 08:03:53 pm
Fun fact.... I wrote a proper story/ book thing once

Fun fact: I am illiterate.
Thousand monkeys, thousand typewriters, etc.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 10, 2014, 08:28:05 pm
Fun fact.... I wrote a proper story/ book thing once

Fun fact: I am illiterate.
Thousand monkeys, thousand typewriters, etc.
Bingi.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 11, 2014, 01:43:56 am
(http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-06-06-2238354.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 11, 2014, 02:36:55 am
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.

Thread closed, Donald X just won.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 11, 2014, 02:56:36 am
Choosing between Ozle and a goat kinda reminds me of when Homer had to choose between Mountain Dew and crab juice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 11, 2014, 06:02:13 am
As a cover supervisor in schools (aka supply teacher), I've found the most frequent question I'm asked is, "Sir, what's your favourite football team." It's... interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 11, 2014, 06:09:45 am
As a cover supervisor in schools (aka supply teacher), I've found the most frequent question I'm asked is, "Sir, what's your favourite football team." It's... interesting.
I have never heard of a football team called "interesting". Are they good?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 11, 2014, 06:57:47 am
As a cover supervisor in schools (aka supply teacher), I've found the most frequent question I'm asked is, "Sir, what's your favourite football team." It's... interesting.
I have never heard of a football team called "interesting". Are they good?

They're pretty bland.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 11, 2014, 07:06:56 am
Choosing between Ozle and a goat kinda reminds me of when Homer had to choose between Mountain Dew and crab juice.

Shame the choice isn't between Ozle and Crabs.... Because them you could get both!


Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 11, 2014, 07:07:34 am
Hang on a minute...I'm Ozle!!! Grrr
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 11, 2014, 07:33:01 am
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.

I think that's the variant where Ozle has three arms. If Ozle only has two arms[citation needed], then we should assume that either the goat or the chieftan's daughter are not interested in the coconuts, or not interested in each other.

Did you try clicking on the blue text? Didya?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 11, 2014, 08:00:28 am
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.

I think that's the variant where Ozle has three arms. If Ozle only has two arms[citation needed], then we should assume that either the goat or the chieftan's daughter are not interested in the coconuts, or not interested in each other.

Did you try clicking on the blue text? Didya?
With the same assumptions:
- Bring goat across and come back with nothing.
- Bring coconuts across and come back with goat.
- Bring girl across and come back with nothing.
- Bring the goat and success.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 11, 2014, 08:06:42 am
If you are assuming that both the goat and the chieftain's daughter want to eat the coconuts, and that the chieftain's daughter wants to run away with the goat (please keep fanfiction in RSP), then your solution doesn't work, because the chieftain's daughter eats the coconuts after step one.

Actually, there is no solution, because any pair of "items" leads to defeat, and you can only carry one of them at the same time. That's why you need to rule in that there is one pair of items that doesn't lead to a loss.

EDIT: To keep in line with the current F.DS meta, I had a 1:1 respect to post ratio for thirty minutes. It felt pretty great while it lasted, would definitely do it again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 11, 2014, 08:13:49 am
Did you try clicking on the blue text? Didya?
No, because the cursor didn't change.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 11, 2014, 09:11:19 am
If you are assuming that both the goat and the chieftain's daughter want to eat the coconuts, and that the chieftain's daughter wants to run away with the goat (please keep fanfiction in RSP), then your solution doesn't work, because the chieftain's daughter eats the coconuts after step one.

Actually, there is no solution, because any pair of "items" leads to defeat, and you can only carry one of them at the same time. That's why you need to rule in that there is one pair of items that doesn't lead to a loss.

EDIT: To keep in line with the current F.DS meta, I had a 1:1 respect to post ratio for thirty minutes. It felt pretty great while it lasted, would definitely do it again.
Some problems don't have solutions. I learned that in my differential equations class. I was just following the meta of this problem.

If Ozle did have 3 arms, he could take the goat and the coconut, bring back the goat, and bring both the child and the goat.

I was taught a variant of the classic duck-feed-dog(thing that eats duck) problem with 3 missionaries and 3 cannibals. Two people can ride across the river at a time in a canoe, but the cannibals cannot outnumber the missionaries. Only the missionaries and the cannibal chief (one of the three) know how to canoe across the river, so each trip canoe ride needs one of those people on board. There is no bridge across the river.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 11, 2014, 09:22:00 am
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.

Donald X could just come here and remind us every few months that, "Hey, I made Dominion," and maintain a 3:1 respect:post ratio, but instead he gives us gems like this.

The dude that made Monopoly wouldn't be making these kinds of posts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 11, 2014, 09:38:23 am
I thought the DVX suck up thread was over in Dominion General Discussion!

Keep going like this and his ego will be so large he could comfortable fit the coconuts, goat and chieftains daughter (she's a big lass as well) on it with ample room to spare!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on June 11, 2014, 09:45:50 am
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.

Donald X could just come here and remind us every few months that, "Hey, I made Dominion," and maintain a 3:1 respect:post ratio, but instead he gives us gems like this.

The dude that made Monopoly wouldn't be making these kinds of posts.

To be fair to whoever made Monopoly, he/she was likely long dead by the time the Internet was invented. That's somewhat of a obstacle to making funny posts on it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 11, 2014, 09:48:25 am
It was a little old lady named Elizabeth.

She hated message boards though so you are right.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 11, 2014, 10:07:58 am
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.

Donald X could just come here and remind us every few months that, "Hey, I made Dominion," and maintain a 3:1 respect:post ratio, but instead he gives us gems like this.

The dude that made Monopoly wouldn't be making these kinds of posts.

To be fair to whoever made Monopoly, he/she was likely long dead by the time the Internet was invented. That's somewhat of a obstacle to making funny posts on it.

This is no place for logic, sir!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 11, 2014, 12:41:33 pm
I did, there was an unfortunate incident with the chieftains daughter, several coconuts, a vine and the village goat that made it in my best interests to slip away quietly.
I know this one. The trick is, you swing across the river on the vine holding the goat and the coconuts... and then you bring the goat back, you just leave the coconuts. Then you bring the chieftain's daughter across and bring the coconuts back; then finally you bring the goat and the coconuts again. So neither of them gets a chance to eat the coconuts, and the chieftain's daughter doesn't run off with the goat.

Donald X could just come here and remind us every few months that, "Hey, I made Dominion," and maintain a 3:1 respect:post ratio, but instead he gives us gems like this.

The dude that made Monopoly wouldn't be making these kinds of posts.

To be fair to whoever made Monopoly, he/she was likely long dead by the time the Internet was invented. That's somewhat of a obstacle to making funny posts on it.

History lesson! Monopoly was designed by a lady, and her goal was to show how monopolies are bad. The game was literally designed to be unfun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 11, 2014, 12:44:17 pm
I said that earlier! Well I said she was called Elizabeth.

And then it was stolen and changed by one of the big games companies of the time....oh irony
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 11, 2014, 12:58:55 pm
I said that earlier! Well I said she was called Elizabeth.
Báthory?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 11, 2014, 01:01:25 pm
"Dude" is gender-neutral!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on June 11, 2014, 02:09:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFzHv53UVXI
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 11, 2014, 02:11:03 pm
"Dude" is gender-neutral!
Since when? Even "bro" is more gender-neutral than "dude", at least based on my experience with those words.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 11, 2014, 02:21:50 pm
Agreed, thats why we have dudette!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 11, 2014, 02:25:40 pm
I know at least females that call other people "dudes", regardless of gender, and I have referred to them with "dude". 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 11, 2014, 02:34:05 pm
I suddenly feel the need to make sure my car is where I left it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 11, 2014, 02:36:10 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/0q1FTZJ.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 11, 2014, 03:13:08 pm
I know at least females that call other people "dudes", regardless of gender, and I have referred to them with "dude".
I think my sister and her friend refer to each other as "dudes", or maybe "bros". Can't remember, but probably not "bro" now that I think about it. "Bro" was used by some other group of friends.

I feel like I haven't contributed enough randomness to this thread. I haven't even posted one picture.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 11, 2014, 03:15:06 pm
I know at least females that call other people "dudes", regardless of gender, and I have referred to them with "dude".
I think my sister and her friend refer to each other as "dudes", or maybe "bros". Can't remember, but probably not "bro" now that I think about it. "Bro" was used by some other group of friends.

I feel like I haven't contributed enough randomness to this thread. I haven't even posted one picture.

"Bro" is lame.  Could you imagine Big Lebowski if he was "The Bro"?  Movie woulda sucked, dude!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 11, 2014, 03:18:28 pm
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Kq5nWqQ8d50/UihmTwa4_oI/AAAAAAAAAwk/9DdKIhLFXfo/s1600/Bros.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 11, 2014, 03:23:01 pm
"Bro" is lame.  Could you imagine Big Lebowski if he was "The Bro"?  Movie woulda sucked, dude!

Let me explain something to you. I am not "Mr. Lebowski". You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm The Bro! So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Broness, or Broseph, or El Broderino, if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 11, 2014, 04:12:33 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0UBbzeFc74

SO MUCH HYPE.

I swear a guy in the trailer is using earth bending and fire bending at the same time.  Also, Zuko appears!

Edit: Also, did anyone hear about the episodes that got leaked?  I would be hunting those down except that the leaked episodes were like ep3-6 or something... don't really want to skip over two episodes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on June 11, 2014, 04:33:12 pm
Wait is that a real thing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 11, 2014, 04:55:46 pm
Wait is that a real thing?

Which thing?  The trailer is official; it's on nick.com.  Episodes really did get leaked; the creators blogged about it (http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/88395248462/howdy-friends-as-you-have-likely-already-heard).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 11, 2014, 06:33:50 pm
Pokemon ORAS spoiler: Mega Sableye revealed!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on June 11, 2014, 07:00:02 pm
Wait is that a real thing?

Which thing?  The trailer is official; it's on nick.com.  Episodes really did get leaked; the creators blogged about it (http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/88395248462/howdy-friends-as-you-have-likely-already-heard).

Oh. Because the link I followed led to a weird clip of a fake Korra dating show. Very much hyping Book 3, though!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 11, 2014, 07:54:52 pm
Wait is that a real thing?

Which thing?  The trailer is official; it's on nick.com.  Episodes really did get leaked; the creators blogged about it (http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/88395248462/howdy-friends-as-you-have-likely-already-heard).

Oh. Because the link I followed led to a weird clip of a fake Korra dating show. Very much hyping Book 3, though!

Ooooops.  The Nick page automatically switched to the next video in their playlist, so I must have copied that URL by accident.  I've replaced it with the trailer on Youtube.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on June 11, 2014, 08:52:05 pm
Epic! When does Legend of Korra start airing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 11, 2014, 08:57:42 pm
Epic! When does Legend of Korra start airing?

If you haven't watched it before, seasons 1 and 2 have already aired.  I don't think there is a date set for season 3 yet, but it should be pretty soon.  As I understand it, the leaked episodes came from someplace Spanish where they were getting dubbed.  The season is already fully animated and they're actually working on season 4 now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 11, 2014, 08:58:36 pm
Epic! When does Legend of Korra start airing?

If you haven't watched it before, seasons 1 and 2 have already aired.  I don't think there is a date set for season 3 yet, but it should be pretty soon.  As I understand it, the leaked episodes came from someplace Spanish where they were getting dubbed.  The season is already fully animated and they're actually working on season 4 now.
I'm betting they announce the date at SDCC.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on June 11, 2014, 09:30:10 pm
Epic! When does Legend of Korra start airing?

If you haven't watched it before, seasons 1 and 2 have already aired.

This is also the case even if florrat has watched it before.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 11, 2014, 09:32:13 pm
Epic! When does Legend of Korra start airing?

If you haven't watched it before, seasons 1 and 2 have already aired.

This is also the case even if florrat has watched it before.

If you haven't watched it before, [you may be interested to learn that] seasons 1 and 2 have already aired.

:P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on June 11, 2014, 09:49:04 pm
This mind-blowing video will restore your faith in humanity. You'll never guess why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypJYind7CA
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on June 11, 2014, 11:41:23 pm
If you haven't watched it before, seasons 1 and 2 have already aired.  I don't think there is a date set for season 3 yet, but it should be pretty soon.  As I understand it, the leaked episodes came from someplace Spanish where they were getting dubbed.  The season is already fully animated and they're actually working on season 4 now.
Ok, thanks. Yeah, I've already watched the first two seasons, and I'm looking forward to the third. That was the major thing I was hoping to see in the trailer. Unfortunately it only showed me that the third season would be awesome, but I already knew that (almost surely). :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 12, 2014, 10:42:57 am
I was browsing F.DS and after noticing the "Rules Questions: Everyone has them." text, I started thinking... surely that can't be true. DXV doesn't have any rules questions, does he?

Then I remembered there was a certain blue dog, which Donald was persuaded on how it should work by other people.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 02:13:17 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 12, 2014, 02:18:39 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not excited. I'm also in Canada.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 12, 2014, 02:20:27 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

Me!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 02:26:22 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not excited. I'm also in Canada.

Those two facts are related. Not enough ice in the game I expect
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 02:26:53 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

Me!

You are a bit too young to understand, maybe the next one...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 12, 2014, 02:27:22 pm
So on my old phone I had purchased SwiftKey long ago.  My biggest complaints about it were that it takes up a big chunk of vertical screen space and that none of the themes were green.  I like green.

When I got my new phone, I decided to switch to Kii Keyboard.  It's good.  More colour customization options and more compact, even with the addition of a number row.  That wasn't even an option with SwiftKey.

SWiftKey recently updated though.  Number row!  More themes!  And I also discovered an option to make the whole keyboard more compact; not sure if it's new or just something I never noticed.  The problem is that I never installed SwiftKey on this phone so it's not recognizing that I was a paid user.  They just recently made the full app free, with previous paid users getting 10 bonus themes for free.  So I am trying to get that resolved now.  Aesthetically, SwiftKey now looks better than Kii keyboard.  Functionally, there is very little difference.  So I think I will be switching back.

And there's a bit of random for y'all.

I'm also not excited by the World Cup!

(And despite being Canadian, I'm not that excited by the Stanley Cup either.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 02:28:23 pm
Yeah, another Canadian..... Same lack of ice
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 02:28:39 pm
And possibly moose/bears
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 12, 2014, 02:34:31 pm
Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?
I'm not excited either. I'm also in Finland.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 02:35:17 pm
Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?
I'm not excited either. I'm also in Finland.

I'm sensing a theme here....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 12, 2014, 02:37:13 pm
Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I don't really care about tennis.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on June 12, 2014, 02:51:31 pm
(And despite being Canadian, I'm not that excited by the Stanley Cup either.)
Wait, you're Canadian? Good to know.

I wasn't that excited for the Stanley Cup either. With the World Cup, it's more that I'll get excited once it actually starts. Maybe not though, as I have a full time job for the summer that involves staying in a lonely lab for 8 hours and taking over 2 hours to get there and back. I don't have time for much once I get home. At least I still have F.DS to keep me sane.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on June 12, 2014, 03:08:03 pm
Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm excited, but much less than I was for all the previous ones I've been alive for (well, I'm not counting 1994 since I can't remember that far). This is probably because I've never been as out of touch with football as I am right now, so even on the French team there are a few guys I don't know anything about.

I am, however, extremely excited for the Rugby World Cup next year, because rugby is the best, and I might hop over to see a match or two since it's in England.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 12, 2014, 03:27:58 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not excited. I'm also in Canada.

Those two facts are related. Not enough ice in the game I expect

I never said they werent related. I'm not excited about hockey either. Is that for the same reason?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 12, 2014, 03:29:33 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not excited. I'm also in Canada.

Those two facts are related. Not enough ice in the game I expect

I never said they werent related. I'm not excited about hockey either. Is that for the same reason?

And possibly moose/bears
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 12, 2014, 03:36:26 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not excited. I'm also in Canada.

Those two facts are related. Not enough ice in the game I expect

I never said they werent related. I'm not excited about hockey either. Is that for the same reason?

And possibly moose/bears

Point taken.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 12, 2014, 05:07:48 pm
Kii flow? Swiftkey does.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 12, 2014, 05:22:43 pm
Kii flow? Swiftkey does.

Kii has swipe option, yes.  One thing Kii has that I can't find on SwiftKey is an arrows-only keyboard layout (that you switch into like you would the numbers or symbols layouts), with handy buttons for copy and paste.  Another difference is that Kii has customizable ascii emoticons and an optional emoji plugin whereas SwiftKey has emoji by default (and I can't find a way to switch to ascii instead).

Edit: nevermind, SwiftKey has tabs in the emoji layout that includes a tab ascii emoticons.  I don't know if it's customizable, but I don't customize anyway.  Still searching for the arrows only layout.  Here's an example from Kii, with handy shortcuts for selecting text and cut/copy/paste:

(https://lh5.ggpht.com/Pnr6AiMyXkUXgTwbZ6l8jIV3pQSkAbdGumKbFqU670ZG9pWGr-rnYLy-3qOsKw_hSqQ=h900)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 12, 2014, 05:35:28 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not. Looking forward to England getting knocked out so people will shut up about this stupid sport.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 12, 2014, 05:41:09 pm
Kii flow? Swiftkey does.

Kii has swipe option, yes.  One thing Kii has that I can't find on SwiftKey is an arrows-only keyboard layout (that you switch into like you would the numbers or symbols layouts), with handy buttons for copy and paste.  Another difference is that Kii has customizable ascii emoticons and an optional emoji plugin whereas SwiftKey has emoji by default (and I can't find a way to switch to ascii instead).

Edit: nevermind, SwiftKey has tabs in the emoji layout that includes a tab ascii emoticons.  I don't know if it's customizable, but I don't customize anyway.  Still searching for the arrows only layout.  Here's an example from Kii, with handy shortcuts for selecting text and cut/copy/paste:

(https://lh5.ggpht.com/Pnr6AiMyXkUXgTwbZ6l8jIV3pQSkAbdGumKbFqU670ZG9pWGr-rnYLy-3qOsKw_hSqQ=h900)

Why not both? I use tasker to apply the preferred keyboard for the respective app. I have 3 different keyboards but I only use them for specific apps.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 06:37:00 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not. Looking forward to England getting knocked out so people will shut up about this stupid sport.

The hype has been minimal this year! Only a few weeks till Wimbledon..... Then wait for people to go mental!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 06:38:16 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

I'm not excited. I'm also in Canada.

Those two facts are related. Not enough ice in the game I expect

I never said they werent related. I'm not excited about hockey either. Is that for the same reason?

I never said you said they were related. Just stated that they were

Also, hockey has no ice......
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 06:40:09 pm
Does anyone know which station I'm at?

I need to get off at east croydon but it's dark And I've had a few beers
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 12, 2014, 06:41:12 pm
Get off at each station. If it's where you need to be keep going, otherwise get on the next train.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 06:46:32 pm
Get off at each station. If it's where you need to be keep going, otherwise get on the next train.

Pretty sure that doesn't work, especially as I'm on one of the last trains from north to South London


Argh, only just crossed the river, I'm ages away.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 12, 2014, 06:51:24 pm
Give someone in your train car 5 pounds and tell them you'll give them 5 more if they tell you when your stop is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 06:53:07 pm
Give someone in your train car 5 pounds and tell them you'll give them 5 more if they tell you when your stop is.

Your joking, have you SEEN these people!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 06:53:26 pm
Whoops probably shouldn't have said that out loud when I typed it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 12, 2014, 07:07:29 pm
Get off at each station. If it's where you need to be keep going, otherwise get on the next train.

Get off at each station.  If there is a pub there, that's where you need to be.  If not, get back on the train.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 12, 2014, 07:14:43 pm
The Google Play Store has a paid app called the Hodor Keyboard.  It costs $1.08 ($1 USD, I guess) and all it has is one button that types the word "hodor".  That's all.  I get that it's a joke keyboard for GoT, but it has 500+ downloads.  That's $500 this thing earned for the dev.  Just... wow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 12, 2014, 07:29:05 pm
The Google Play Store has a paid app called the Hodor Keyboard.  It costs $1.08 ($1 USD, I guess) and all it has is one button that types the word "hodor".  That's all.  I get that it's a joke keyboard for GoT, but it has 500+ downloads.  That's $500 this thing earned for the dev.  Just... wow.
Well they don't get 100% of the sales, but yeah.

Does it have achievements? Can you send your hodor messages to people?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 12, 2014, 07:59:50 pm
The Google Play Store has a paid app called the Hodor Keyboard.  It costs $1.08 ($1 USD, I guess) and all it has is one button that types the word "hodor".  That's all.  I get that it's a joke keyboard for GoT, but it has 500+ downloads.  That's $500 this thing earned for the dev.  Just... wow.
Well they don't get 100% of the sales, but yeah.

Does it have achievements? Can you send your hodor messages to people?

It's just a keyboard, so you would use it in conjunction with your messaging app or whatever.  No achievements as far as I am aware.  One feature in the paid app that isn't in the free "lite" version is that you can long-press "for maximum hodor" which I think just means that the word is all-caps.

It's funny!  I'm just surprised that so many people have actually paid for something so useless.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 12, 2014, 08:01:33 pm
It's a dollar. People probably get as much joy from it as, say, a candy bar. And candy bars are pretty useless.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 12, 2014, 08:05:51 pm
It's a dollar. People probably get as much joy from it as, say, a candy bar. And candy bars are pretty useless.

For some reason, I feel a lot more discriminating when it comes to spending my hard-earned dollars in the app store.  I haven't purchased Monument Valley yet because it costs an outrageous $4 for just 10 puzzles.  :P

On that note, I was recently informed of Google Opinion Rewards (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.paidtasks).  It's a free app that will occasionally prompt you to answer a short survey in return for some Play store credit.  Surveys don't come that often but the app doesn't bother me until something is available.  It's unobtrusive.  So far I've answered 2 or 3 surveys of 1-2 questions each and I've received $1.38 in credit.  That's not bad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 08:08:16 pm
Woooo got off at the right station and found a fried chicken shop open

High five anyone?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 12, 2014, 08:09:39 pm
I'm not drunk by the way, just big boned!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 12, 2014, 08:10:04 pm
Why not both? I use tasker to apply the preferred keyboard for the respective app. I have 3 different keyboards but I only use them for specific apps.

Missed this from earlier.  I can't think of any specific app where I would prefer one keyboard over the other.  As I said, I now prefer the aesthetics of Swiftkey, and I can only find one function that Kii has over SwiftKey.  That function isn't something I use that often anyway, but it's also something that could potentially be used in any app.  If I ever really want to switch keyboards, I can do that from the notification area.

I'm curious which keyboard apps you have installed and what you use each of them for.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 12, 2014, 09:07:22 pm
The Google Play Store has a paid app called the Hodor Keyboard.  It costs $1.08 ($1 USD, I guess) and all it has is one button that types the word "hodor".  That's all.  I get that it's a joke keyboard for GoT, but it has 500+ downloads.  That's $500 this thing earned for the dev.  Just... wow.
Well they don't get 100% of the sales, but yeah.

Does it have achievements? Can you send your hodor messages to people?

It's just a keyboard, so you would use it in conjunction with your messaging app or whatever.  No achievements as far as I am aware.  One feature in the paid app that isn't in the free "lite" version is that you can long-press "for maximum hodor" which I think just means that the word is all-caps.

It's funny!  I'm just surprised that so many people have actually paid for something so useless.

At least it's not as bad as the "I'm Rich" app that used to be out. Costs $1000. Does nothing, except signify you can spend $1000 on nothing. People bought it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 12, 2014, 09:10:01 pm
The Google Play Store has a paid app called the Hodor Keyboard.  It costs $1.08 ($1 USD, I guess) and all it has is one button that types the word "hodor".  That's all.  I get that it's a joke keyboard for GoT, but it has 500+ downloads.  That's $500 this thing earned for the dev.  Just... wow.
Well they don't get 100% of the sales, but yeah.

Does it have achievements? Can you send your hodor messages to people?

It's just a keyboard, so you would use it in conjunction with your messaging app or whatever.  No achievements as far as I am aware.  One feature in the paid app that isn't in the free "lite" version is that you can long-press "for maximum hodor" which I think just means that the word is all-caps.

It's funny!  I'm just surprised that so many people have actually paid for something so useless.

At least it's not as bad as the "I'm Rich" app that used to be out. Costs $1000. Does nothing, except signify you can spend $1000 on nothing. People bought it.
So pretty much like most status symbols?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 12, 2014, 09:21:06 pm
The Google Play Store has a paid app called the Hodor Keyboard.  It costs $1.08 ($1 USD, I guess) and all it has is one button that types the word "hodor".  That's all.  I get that it's a joke keyboard for GoT, but it has 500+ downloads.  That's $500 this thing earned for the dev.  Just... wow.
Well they don't get 100% of the sales, but yeah.

Does it have achievements? Can you send your hodor messages to people?

It's just a keyboard, so you would use it in conjunction with your messaging app or whatever.  No achievements as far as I am aware.  One feature in the paid app that isn't in the free "lite" version is that you can long-press "for maximum hodor" which I think just means that the word is all-caps.

It's funny!  I'm just surprised that so many people have actually paid for something so useless.

At least it's not as bad as the "I'm Rich" app that used to be out. Costs $1000. Does nothing, except signify you can spend $1000 on nothing. People bought it.

Oh.  Wow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 13, 2014, 12:43:55 am
Why not both? I use tasker to apply the preferred keyboard for the respective app. I have 3 different keyboards but I only use them for specific apps.

Missed this from earlier.  I can't think of any specific app where I would prefer one keyboard over the other.  As I said, I now prefer the aesthetics of Swiftkey, and I can only find one function that Kii has over SwiftKey.  That function isn't something I use that often anyway, but it's also something that could potentially be used in any app.  If I ever really want to switch keyboards, I can do that from the notification area.

I'm curious which keyboard apps you have installed and what you use each of them for.

Huh, I just found some more exclusive features for each keyboard.

Kii lets you swipe from a key to the space bar in order to immediately type the alt character, as an alternative to long-pressing.
After Kii auto-corrects a word, you can press backspace to immediately revert.
Kii lets you use third party keyboard themes (of which I've found none that I like, unfortunately), as well as more customization with text colors on the keyboard and even an option to use a custom background... but SwiftKey's themes still look better.

SwiftKey lets you delete an entire word by long-pressing on backspace.
SwiftKey lets you remove words from the user dictionary by long-pressing the prediction.  Granted, this is less necessary in Kii because SwiftKey automatically adds things to the user dictionary whereas Kii does not do it automatically (when you type a weird word it will let you tap a prompt in the auto-predict space to save a word).
SwiftKey lets you undock the keyboard (which I never will).

There are also some different keyboard layouts between the two, which don't matter much to me because I'll be using the basic full layout pretty much every time.

I am suddenly very torn about which one to prefer... I think I'll go with SwiftKey for now because it looks prettier and the quick-delete is still a really cool feature.  If I find myself typing alt characters more, maybe I'll switch back.  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 13, 2014, 11:33:23 am
So this is cool:

http://imgur.com/gallery/NzMjP

Guy makes real swords based on video games.  (Lots are FFVII and FFX I think?)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 13, 2014, 12:51:11 pm
So this is cool:

http://imgur.com/gallery/NzMjP

Guy makes real swords based on video games.  (Lots are FFVII and FFX I think?)

Is that a different guy than the YouTube guy?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 13, 2014, 01:30:56 pm
So this is cool:

http://imgur.com/gallery/NzMjP

Guy makes real swords based on video games.  (Lots are FFVII and FFX I think?)

Is that a different guy than the YouTube guy?

I believe it's the same.. some of the comments link a YouTube page, though I didn't check it out.  Was it mentioned on this board already?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 13, 2014, 03:19:42 pm
So this is cool:

http://imgur.com/gallery/NzMjP

Guy makes real swords based on video games.  (Lots are FFVII and FFX I think?)

Is that a different guy than the YouTube guy?

I believe it's the same.. some of the comments link a YouTube page, though I didn't check it out.  Was it mentioned on this board already?

Not sure, but I've seen some of his stuff on Tumblr.  He did at least one sword from League of Legends, and I think he also forged a Honedge (pokemon).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 13, 2014, 06:00:11 pm
Heh, there seems to have been an anti-ozle thread spring up! Surprised it took this long!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 13, 2014, 06:29:37 pm
Heh, there seems to have been an anti-ozle thread spring up! Surprised it took this long!
I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 13, 2014, 06:38:43 pm
Heh, there seems to have been an anti-ozle thread spring up! Surprised it took this long!
I thought the same thing.

Indeed, not complaining though, its fair enough!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 14, 2014, 05:58:34 am
Wow, when you fall down the rabbit hole of fanfiction, you don't come back.

On a related note, would recommend fanfiction/web fiction in general. Usually not as well written as an actual book. Often still pretty good, with a lot more ridiculously awesome moments, if you keep your quality standards pretty high.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on June 14, 2014, 12:43:23 pm
Is it ok to eat oatmeal as a snack?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 14, 2014, 12:44:14 pm
Is it ok to eat oatmeal as a snack?

It's pretty dull...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on June 14, 2014, 12:46:28 pm
Wow, when you fall down the rabbit hole of fanfiction, you don't come back.

On a related note, would recommend fanfiction/web fiction in general. Usually not as well written as an actual book. Often still pretty good, with a lot more ridiculously awesome moments, if you keep your quality standards pretty high.
The only fanfiction I enjoy is this masterpiece. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10809.msg363315#msg363315)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on June 14, 2014, 12:50:43 pm
Is it ok to eat oatmeal as a snack?

It's pretty dull...
I tend to put cinnamon/brown sugar in there to sweeten it up. I'm wondering if other people use oatmeal than more than just a breakfast food. Maybe we could even swap recipes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 14, 2014, 12:53:26 pm
Is it ok to eat oatmeal as a snack?

It's pretty dull...

Well, of course, you don't want it cutting you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 14, 2014, 02:16:06 pm
Wow, when you fall down the rabbit hole of fanfiction, you don't come back.

On a related note, would recommend fanfiction/web fiction in general. Usually not as well written as an actual book. Often still pretty good, with a lot more ridiculously awesome moments, if you keep your quality standards pretty high.

I highly recommend Worm. Also, Pact, by the same author.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 14, 2014, 03:20:14 pm
I read fanfiction of sorts on sadpanda.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 14, 2014, 06:36:31 pm
Wow, when you fall down the rabbit hole of fanfiction, you don't come back.

On a related note, would recommend fanfiction/web fiction in general. Usually not as well written as an actual book. Often still pretty good, with a lot more ridiculously awesome moments, if you keep your quality standards pretty high.
The only fanfiction I enjoy is this masterpiece. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10809.msg363315#msg363315)

Pretty sure Masterpiece doesn't feature in that story.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 14, 2014, 10:41:33 pm
Wow, when you fall down the rabbit hole of fanfiction, you don't come back.

On a related note, would recommend fanfiction/web fiction in general. Usually not as well written as an actual book. Often still pretty good, with a lot more ridiculously awesome moments, if you keep your quality standards pretty high.

I highly recommend Worm. Also, Pact, by the same author.

Worm is very good. Pact is hard to go through IMO, but it's starting to hit the point where I'm getting more invested. The problem is that I'm caught up on it, so now I have to live with reading it serially.

Cenotaph is a good fanfic based off Worm, but you do need to read Worm first or else you'll get spoiled, badly. Copacetic is also an interesting Worm continuation, but I haven't gotten through much of it so no guarantees.

Methods of Rationality is good, but it bounces between making fun of Harry Potter and political intrigue/head games, so YMMV.

The Infinite Loops are oddly addicting. Essentially, the premise is Groundhog Day, except with crossovers allowed, changes to the story allowed, ability to carry objects between time resets and different continuities, etc. Mostly a collection of short stories, but there are a bunch of them - if a favorite series of yours has one, it's worth a shot, because there are something like 10-20 different sets running in parallel at the moment
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 15, 2014, 12:22:11 am
Wow, when you fall down the rabbit hole of fanfiction, you don't come back.

On a related note, would recommend fanfiction/web fiction in general. Usually not as well written as an actual book. Often still pretty good, with a lot more ridiculously awesome moments, if you keep your quality standards pretty high.
The only fanfiction I enjoy is this masterpiece. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10809.msg363315#msg363315)

Thank you. I think it's important to remind people once in a while that that happened.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 15, 2014, 02:37:20 pm
who likes tetris? (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29970540/tetris.jar)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on June 15, 2014, 02:58:06 pm
Is it ok to eat oatmeal as a snack?

It's pretty dull...
I tend to put cinnamon/brown sugar in there to sweeten it up. I'm wondering if other people use oatmeal than more than just a breakfast food. Maybe we could even swap recipes.
you could just toast the oats, and put them over yogurt.  Or you could make a full-on snack-bar thing.  We have a recipe for one with oats, flax, quinoa, pistachios, cranberries...and...other stuff?  chocolate and honey are up in that mix.  But you've gotta prep it before hand, it's not just a throw together and munch sorta thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 15, 2014, 09:26:00 pm
Rolled 1d2 : 1, total 1

Rolled 1d3 : 2, total 2

Rolled 1d5 : 3, total 3

Rolled 1d7 : 5, total 5

Rolled 1d11 : 6, total 6

Rolled 1d13 : 2, total 2

Rolled 1d17 : 16, total 16

Rolled 1d19 : 18, total 18
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 15, 2014, 09:40:03 pm
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d2 : 1, total 1
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d3 : 2, total 2
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d5 : 3, total 3
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d7 : 5, total 5
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d11 : 6, total 6
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d13 : 2, total 2
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d17 : 16, total 16
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d19 : 18, total 18

That's some prime randomness.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 16, 2014, 03:24:16 am
Here's a question for everyone: Let's suppose you roll 1dX, where X is some positive integer. If you roll a 1, you stop. Otherwise, you repeat, but replace X with whatever number you roll.

What's the expected number of dice rolls before you roll a 1?

My mathematician intuition says the way to construct the answer is by induction in some way, but I dunno. Haven't really thought about it yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 16, 2014, 03:45:17 am
Here's a question for everyone: Let's suppose you roll 1dX, where X is some positive integer. If you roll a 1, you stop. Otherwise, you repeat, but replace X with whatever number you roll.

What's the expected number of dice rolls before you roll a 1?

My mathematician intuition says the way to construct the answer is by induction in some way, but I dunno. Haven't really thought about it yet.

Let f(x) denote the expected number of rolls when you start with a 1dX. This function clearly has to exist, have some defined value, etc.

You can define it recursively as

f(x) = 1/x + 1/x ( \sum_{i=2}^x (1+ f(i)) )

which reduces down to

(x-1) / x f(x) = 1 + 1/x (\sum_{i=2}^{x-1} f(i) )

1/x of the time, you'll finish in 1 roll. In every other case, the expected # of rolls is going to be 1 + expected # rolls for next dice number.

If you start with a 1d1, f(1) = 1

1/2 f(2) = 1 => f(2) = 2

2/3 f(3) = 1 + 2/3 => f(3) = 5/2

3/4 f(4) = 1 + 1/4 (2 + 5/2) => f(4) = 17/6

At this point I realize I maybe shouldn't be staying up trying to work this out, but there's some starting work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 16, 2014, 03:51:03 am
Here's a question for everyone: Let's suppose you roll 1dX, where X is some positive integer. If you roll a 1, you stop. Otherwise, you repeat, but replace X with whatever number you roll.

What's the expected number of dice rolls before you roll a 1?

My mathematician intuition says the way to construct the answer is by induction in some way, but I dunno. Haven't really thought about it yet.

My stats is a bit rusty, but this sounds like a stochastic process? Would a Markov chain be appropriate?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 16, 2014, 04:12:32 am
Here's a question for everyone: Let's suppose you roll 1dX, where X is some positive integer. If you roll a 1, you stop. Otherwise, you repeat, but replace X with whatever number you roll.

What's the expected number of dice rolls before you roll a 1?

My mathematician intuition says the way to construct the answer is by induction in some way, but I dunno. Haven't really thought about it yet.

My stats is a bit rusty, but this sounds like a stochastic process? Would a Markov chain be appropriate?

Yeah, it's definitely a Markov Chain. If only I paid attention in those lectures... hmm...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 16, 2014, 04:15:13 am
In expectation X halves at each stage, so my guess is that the expectation is logarithmic in X.  That makes me slightly more pessimistic for a nice exact formula, as there's no way to get logs out the recurrence. 

My stats is a bit rusty, but this sounds like a stochastic process? Would a Markov chain be appropriate?

This is a very boring Markov chain because it can't go backwards, and will eventually get stuck after a finite time.  Markov chains tend to be most interesting (and the tools we have for studying them are most useful) when it's possible to get to any state from any other state.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on June 16, 2014, 04:29:33 am
The answer is X, unintuitively that exactly what the intuition says.  Proof tba.

e: The number of trials needed until independent Bernoulli experiments with success rate p to succeed is geometrically distributed with parameter p.  Expectation of Geo(p) is 1/p.
e2: That it's geometric is obvious, success exactly at i-th time is p(1-p)^(i-1).  Proof for expecatiation of the geometric distribution can be found on wikipedia.


e3: Forget everything I said, I should not stop reading the post after the first 2 lines, but understand the problem first.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 16, 2014, 05:01:58 am
I think the answer is partial sums of the harmonic series, where for 1dX it's

1 + (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/(x-1))

It works up to 1d5 if my math is right. There's probably an induction you can do from the recurrence but I really do need to sleep.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on June 16, 2014, 05:03:35 am
e4: Ok, listen again:
We have (as already noted)
p(n) = 1/n(1 + sum(1 + p(i), i=2..n-1)
therefore
p(n-1) = 1/(n-1)(1 + sum(1 + p(i), i=2..n-2)

Substitution in the first one yields:
p(n) = (n-1)/n*p(n-1) + 1/n(1+p(n-1))
  = p(n-1) + 1/n
  = what Titandrake says.

so p(n) ~log(n).

Might be some small mistake in the setup, but that's how it should go, take formula for p(n), substitute everything on the rhs by p(n-1) and solve this one step recursion formula...

:e2 titandrake is right, it's 1/n not (n-1)/n

:e3 log(n) is also the expected scaling, you expect to about half the number of your dice each roll, so you should need logarithmic time to go down to o(1)
:e4 forgot to post half of the terms from my sheet....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Nevermind on June 16, 2014, 08:46:06 am
Stop the math questions! Come back to reality! To spare you guys from the boredom of math, let me post this video to get your mind off math.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I3MsZjx1K8k

Apologies for any hurt ribs from laughing to hard or if it's been posted on here already.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 16, 2014, 08:59:31 am
OK, so, empirically, the answer for 1d2 is 2.  Imagine an infinite number of monkeys (or undergrads) tossing coins and writing down the sequence until they get a tail.  Obviously, 1/2 will get a tail on toss 1 and be spared being part of this example any longer.  Half the rest (1/4) will hit a tail on toss 2, and half the rest (1/8) on toss 3, giving us:

R = sum(i = 1....inf) i/(2^i) = 2

The proof that this converges to 2 is left as an exercise for the reader (read: I used Excel, hence empirical "proof").

1d3 and up are, of course, harder.  I'll... think about that one.  But for now we have definite answers for 1d1 (R = 1) and 1d2 (R = 2).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 16, 2014, 09:40:54 am
Okay, after some more scratching, I realize that Titandrake's first answer (1, 2, 5/2, 17/6,...) is correct.

Edit:  And after searching some in OEIS, Titandrake's second answer is also correct, or more clearly is the compactified version of the original answer.  So, the harmonic numbers + 1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 16, 2014, 12:11:58 pm
Stop the math questions! Come back to reality! To spare you guys from the boredom of math, let me post this video to get your mind off math.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I3MsZjx1K8k

Apologies for any hurt ribs from laughing to hard or if it's been posted on here already.

"If that's funny then... what is funny?"

A question for the ages indeed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 16, 2014, 12:49:15 pm
Stop the math questions! Come back to reality! To spare you guys from the boredom of math, let me post this video to get your mind off math.

We do have a thread for just math, and I just posted in it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 16, 2014, 01:27:39 pm
Why not both? I use tasker to apply the preferred keyboard for the respective app. I have 3 different keyboards but I only use them for specific apps.

Missed this from earlier.  I can't think of any specific app where I would prefer one keyboard over the other.  As I said, I now prefer the aesthetics of Swiftkey, and I can only find one function that Kii has over SwiftKey.  That function isn't something I use that often anyway, but it's also something that could potentially be used in any app.  If I ever really want to switch keyboards, I can do that from the notification area.

I'm curious which keyboard apps you have installed and what you use each of them for.

Swiftkey, Hacker's Keyboard and Terminal IDE.

I use a lot of ssh, VPN, bash and remote command line utilities and thus swiftkey proves quite terrible and even incapable. I need to be able to send control keys, tab, escape, etc. I pretty much only use switfkey for email and messaging where it is about as awesome as anything.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on June 16, 2014, 01:41:37 pm
Is it ok to eat oatmeal as a snack?

It's pretty dull...
I tend to put cinnamon/brown sugar in there to sweeten it up. I'm wondering if other people use oatmeal than more than just a breakfast food. Maybe we could even swap recipes.
you could just toast the oats, and put them over yogurt.  Or you could make a full-on snack-bar thing.  We have a recipe for one with oats, flax, quinoa, pistachios, cranberries...and...other stuff?  chocolate and honey are up in that mix.  But you've gotta prep it before hand, it's not just a throw together and munch sorta thing.
Interesting! I'm not a big fan of yogurt, but I don't think I've ever had toasted oatmeal. I'll have to try that - thanks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on June 16, 2014, 02:07:56 pm
Oatmeal Wafers. It's seriously the best. I can eat those all day long!

http://youtu.be/oJyfsivWegE

Not sure if that's the best recipe out there, but it should do. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on June 16, 2014, 02:22:50 pm
Here's a question for everyone: Let's suppose you roll 1dX, where X is some positive integer. If you roll a 1, you stop. Otherwise, you repeat, but replace X with whatever number you roll.

What's the expected number of dice rolls before you roll a 1?

My mathematician intuition says the way to construct the answer is by induction in some way, but I dunno. Haven't really thought about it yet.
Here's a derivation without using the recursion.

First, we'll do a simple reformulation. For simplicity, include X as one of the rolled values when we start the game. We'll roll a 1dX at each step but only count it if either:
We stop once every number in 1,2,...,X has been rolled at least once. (Observe that if you strip out the rolls we don't count, then the rolls remaining correspond exactly to rolls in the original problem.)

Let M be the total number of counted rolls made. For k=1,...,X-1, let M_k be the number of counted rolls made after having k distinct roll values so far until (and including) rolling a new value. By linearity of expectation, E[M] = E[M_1] + E[M_2] + ... + E[M_{X-1}]. Write M_k = S_k + G_k where S_k is the count of rolls corresponding to type 1 above and G_k is the count of rolls corresponding to type 2 above.

Deriving S_k: Given that k distinct roll values have been made so far, the probability of 1 NOT being among them is (X-1-k)/(X-1), since there are X-1-k values we haven't rolled yet. In any case, the number of rolls we expect to make equal to the previous minimum before rolling a new distinct value is 1/(X-k) + (1/(X-k))^2 + ... = 1 / (X-1-k). Multiplying, we get E[S_k] = 1/(X-1).

Deriving G_k: Given that k distinct roll values have been made so far, once we roll a new distinct value, there are k+1 distinct values. Since any permutation of those k+1 values where X is the first value is equally likely, the probability that the new value is the minimum is 1/k. So E[G_k] = 1/k.

Thus, E[M] = (X-1)(1/(X-1)) + (1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/(X-1)) = 1 + H_{X-1}.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 16, 2014, 06:45:04 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/c31fa43e24a5f95cafd877ebf03efb62/tumblr_n6zhhoL2uA1r25kgko1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 16, 2014, 07:55:45 pm
0
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Phd
Bsc
B.A



Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 16, 2014, 07:58:55 pm
0
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Phd
Bsc
B.A




Now that's just cold!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 16, 2014, 08:07:19 pm
0
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Phd
Bsc
B.A




Now that's just cold!

One point to you i believe
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 16, 2014, 08:10:00 pm
HIJKLMNO
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 16, 2014, 08:11:16 pm
NO   NO
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CORRECT
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 16, 2014, 08:14:31 pm
PEEP
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 16, 2014, 08:15:37 pm
I don't get posts #3763 to #3768 (with the possible exception of #3767). Anyone care to make them funnier?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 16, 2014, 08:17:35 pm
I don't get posts #3763 to #3768 (with the possible exception of #3767). Anyone care to make them funnier?

I can put the in santa hats and pretend they are drunk?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 16, 2014, 09:34:32 pm
I don't get posts #3763 to #3768 (with the possible exception of #3767). Anyone care to make them funnier?

The one with the fifths is Seussian.
The one that is cold isn't that cold.  It's only -3.
The one with the letters is extremely dangerous.
The one with "correct" is in position for a good sniff.

I have no idea what PEEP is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 16, 2014, 10:13:03 pm
(http://imgs.abduzeedo.com/files/amanda/peeps/JUST-BORN-MARSHMALLOW-PEEPS.jpeg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 16, 2014, 10:14:07 pm
Phew, got the first two (wikipedia helped with the first one). I'm still at a loss for the other three, though (unless the "dangerous" comment was a reference to dihydrogen monoxide?). All this is too subtle for me!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 16, 2014, 10:28:40 pm
I don't understand any of them but I +1ed the first one to make it look like I do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 16, 2014, 11:15:15 pm
Phew, got the first two (wikipedia helped with the first one). I'm still at a loss for the other three, though (unless the "dangerous" comment was a reference to dihydrogen monoxide?). All this is too subtle for me!

Yes, that's dangerous.

Still don't get the peep one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 16, 2014, 11:57:32 pm
who likes tetris? (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29970540/tetris.jar)
noone? I'm deeply hurt :'(

also, it's 6am and i can't sleep, probably because I'm used to go to sleep around a time like this, but now i slept from ~2am to 6am... meh
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 17, 2014, 12:04:27 am
noone here? :c
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 17, 2014, 12:15:58 am
Tetris has lost its appeal to me, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 17, 2014, 12:18:46 am
its a great game though. lots of skill, just the right amount of luck and always tense
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 17, 2014, 12:52:51 am
its a great game though. lots of skill, just the right amount of luck and always tense

I prefer Dr. Mario.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 17, 2014, 02:27:58 am
"It was awfully nice to have a friend that'd stab me."

Belongs in out of context thread but it's not from the forum. One of the better lines I've read recently.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 17, 2014, 04:30:17 am
Phew, got the first two (wikipedia helped with the first one). I'm still at a loss for the other three, though (unless the "dangerous" comment was a reference to dihydrogen monoxide?). All this is too subtle for me!

Yes, that's dangerous.

Still don't get the peep one.

Last one is Definately the hardest, especially of you need to cross the road...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 17, 2014, 04:55:48 am
When did this thread become a cryptic clue puzzle thread?

Bonus: This might actually be a cryptic clue in itself. Good luck.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 17, 2014, 04:57:42 am
When did this thread become a cryptic clue puzzle thread?

Bonus: This might actually be a cryptic clue in itself. Good luck.
3763
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 17, 2014, 11:35:31 am
When did this thread become a cryptic clue puzzle thread?

Bonus: This might actually be a cryptic clue in itself. Good luck.

About the same time I got bored reading the maths talk.

I was going to make it a separate thread, but wanted to derail all the maths!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 17, 2014, 11:42:43 am
its a great game though. lots of skill, just the right amount of luck and always tense

I prefer Dr. Mario.

I was always partial to Puyo Puyo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 17, 2014, 12:50:57 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

There's a World Cup happening? I have been led to believe the only sporting event happening right now is some French bike race... but I guess that's to be expected when I live in the famous French province of Yorkshire...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 17, 2014, 02:03:57 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

There's a World Cup happening? I have been led to believe the only sporting event happening right now is some French bike race... but I guess that's to be expected when I live in the famous French province of Yorkshire...

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7939487744/h615AF66A/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 17, 2014, 02:17:14 pm
Reminds me of my favorite shirt:

(http://www.lookhuman.com/render/product/2404/2404448482578468/2408triblk-w484h484z1-24156-hooray-sports.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on June 17, 2014, 02:21:55 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

There's a World Cup happening? I have been led to believe the only sporting event happening right now is some French bike race... but I guess that's to be expected when I live in the famous French province of Yorkshire...

It's in Switzerland, just so you know.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 17, 2014, 02:23:13 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

There's a World Cup happening? I have been led to believe the only sporting event happening right now is some French bike race... but I guess that's to be expected when I live in the famous French province of Yorkshire...

It's in Switzerland, just so you know.

France is in Switzerland now?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 17, 2014, 03:27:51 pm
I'm watching a Season 6 Simpsons episode that I haven't seen before! And I thought I'd seen them all!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 17, 2014, 03:37:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFxT81kzakE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on June 17, 2014, 03:56:13 pm
I'm watching a Season 6 Simpsons episode that I haven't seen before! And I thought I'd seen them all!

Which one?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on June 17, 2014, 03:57:56 pm
What are some of the best Simpsons episodes? I've seen every single one I think, but I never liked it that much (but I know it's very highly acclaimed).

Fwiw, I absolutely love Family Guy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 17, 2014, 03:59:38 pm
I'm watching a Season 6 Simpsons episode that I haven't seen before! And I thought I'd seen them all!

Which one?

It's called Homer Badman, when the town accuses Homer of sexually harassing the babysitter. It's not a very good episode but it does have a couple laugh out loud moments.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 17, 2014, 04:01:37 pm
What are some of the best Simpsons episodes? I've seen every single one I think, but I never liked it that much (but I know it's very highly acclaimed).

Fwiw, I absolutely love Family Guy.

I own seasons 1-9, just got 6 and I'm working my way through it now. My favorite episode is when Homer gets a new job working for Hank Scorpio and the family all moves to a new town. I think my love for James Bond comes from my love of this episode.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 17, 2014, 04:06:10 pm
In other news, I ordered these socks from foot locker:

http://images.footlocker.com/pi/03693004/zoom/nike-elite-basketball-crew-socks-mens

and they sent me these:

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0161/0302/products/eliteblackblue.png?v=1386037712

and here's what they say about it:

"We have inspected these socks at our warehouse and found that our online image is correct. The photos online are our best effort to represent the color accurately but variations of shades can result depending on the monitor used to view our images."

Fuck that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 17, 2014, 04:10:15 pm
I'm watching a Season 6 Simpsons episode that I haven't seen before! And I thought I'd seen them all!

Which one?

It's called Homer Badman, when the town accuses Homer of sexually harassing the babysitter. It's not a very good episode but it does have a couple laugh out loud moments.

The one with the gummy Venus de Milo?

I watched Simpsons all the time when I was younger but I stopped ~6 years ago.  No particular reason; I just didn't keep up.




In entirely separate news, I'm just going to leave this here:

http://phoboslab.org/ztype/

(there's something really satisfying about the sound effects)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 17, 2014, 04:35:34 pm
http://phoboslab.org/ztype/
It would be nice if the words were readable and if I had to type them in the order they fall, since now it's taking me like five seconds to realize that I'm not misspelling the word I'm thinking I'm supposed to spell but that I'm supposed to spell another word instead, and search for the correct one. I'm getting about 60 words per minute here, compared to the 100-115 that I usually get from typing tests.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 17, 2014, 04:50:54 pm
http://phoboslab.org/ztype/
It would be nice if the words were readable and if I had to type them in the order they fall, since now it's taking me like five seconds to realize that I'm not misspelling the word I'm thinking I'm supposed to spell but that I'm supposed to spell another word instead, and search for the correct one. I'm getting about 60 words per minute here, compared to the 100-115 that I usually get from typing tests.

I assumed that was happening when I'd accidentally hit the first letter of a word other than the one I was going for.  I got the word I wanted a lot more often than I would expect if the order was prescribed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 17, 2014, 04:58:31 pm
You all entered the football score World Cup predictor yet?

Also, is anybody NOT excited by the imminent World Cup?

There's a World Cup happening? I have been led to believe the only sporting event happening right now is some French bike race... but I guess that's to be expected when I live in the famous French province of Yorkshire...

I don't see the contradiction with what you have been told.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 17, 2014, 05:12:20 pm
http://phoboslab.org/ztype/
It would be nice if the words were readable and if I had to type them in the order they fall, since now it's taking me like five seconds to realize that I'm not misspelling the word I'm thinking I'm supposed to spell but that I'm supposed to spell another word instead, and search for the correct one. I'm getting about 60 words per minute here, compared to the 100-115 that I usually get from typing tests.

I assumed that was happening when I'd accidentally hit the first letter of a word other than the one I was going for.  I got the word I wanted a lot more often than I would expect if the order was prescribed.

Awaclus was saying it would be better if there were a specific order, so that he doesn't accidentally start typing something in a corner he wasn't looking at and then have to hunt for it on the screen.  I just wish the selected were was highlighted better, especially in the later levels of Expert Mode when there can be a huge cluster of things.

Leaving something else here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m86ae_e_ptU
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 17, 2014, 05:44:34 pm
If you have seen season 1-9 then you have probably seen series 16 onwards as well.

They really seemed to run out of ideas, every time I saw a new episode it felt like a rehashed version of a previous one.

Oh look, sideshow bobs escaped again......
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 17, 2014, 06:37:39 pm
If you have seen season 1-9 then you have probably seen series 16 onwards as well.

They really seemed to run out of ideas, every time I saw a new episode it felt like a rehashed version of a previous one.

Oh look, sideshow bobs escaped again......

Maybe I've seen a couple of the newer episodes but really I try to avoid them as much as possible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 17, 2014, 11:16:09 pm
In entirely separate news, I'm just going to leave this here:

http://phoboslab.org/ztype/

(there's something really satisfying about the sound effects)

In expert mode:

Final score: 001811

Accuracy: 91.2%

WPM: 62.8

Is that any good?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 18, 2014, 09:19:11 am
Congrats to the Blues for ending the Maroons streak!  Go Blues!!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 18, 2014, 10:21:30 am
In entirely separate news, I'm just going to leave this here:

http://phoboslab.org/ztype/

(there's something really satisfying about the sound effects)

In expert mode:

Final score: 001811

Accuracy: 91.2%

WPM: 62.8

Is that any good?

Better than I did. Only got about 1400 and have that in WPM.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 18, 2014, 10:55:03 am
In entirely separate news, I'm just going to leave this here:

http://phoboslab.org/ztype/

(there's something really satisfying about the sound effects)

In expert mode:

Final score: 001811

Accuracy: 91.2%

WPM: 62.8

Is that any good?

Better than I did. Only got about 1400 and have that in WPM.

How many levels do you have to go through?  I got bored and stopped after 20
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on June 18, 2014, 10:59:21 am
Congrats to the Blues for ending the Maroons streak!  Go Blues!!!

That's rugby right? State of Origin?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 18, 2014, 12:07:41 pm
Can't remember what level I got to, maybe 20 something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 18, 2014, 12:33:58 pm
Gopher holing on a conference call.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 18, 2014, 01:15:28 pm
I think my score was over 3000.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 18, 2014, 02:04:26 pm
For Futurama fans:

http://imgur.com/gallery/ti5Wx
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 18, 2014, 02:09:50 pm
For Futurama fans:

http://imgur.com/gallery/ti5Wx

"Ayn Rand McNally Atlas Shrugged' was my favorite.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 18, 2014, 08:26:41 pm
Congrats to the Blues for ending the Maroons streak!  Go Blues!!!

That's rugby right? State of Origin?

Correct.  NSW vs. Queensland.  It was a huge night in Sydney.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 19, 2014, 01:41:13 pm
Dude!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipb7ShGy9U4
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 19, 2014, 01:59:18 pm
Any Aussie rules fans want to fill me in on the latest Essendon drugs scandal news?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 19, 2014, 03:27:15 pm
Dude!

That was great, but his stage name's going to sound really dated in 10 years time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on June 19, 2014, 03:46:36 pm
I hate seeing the doctor for nothing.

I figured the pain in my side was nothing. Felt like a stitch you get after running, but it was weird that it's persisted for over 24 hours. But what if it was something worse? So I was right that it's nothing to worry about, but I wish I didn't take off from work and pay a copay to be told that. I suppose it's better than ignoring some ruptured organ or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on June 19, 2014, 04:31:21 pm
Any Aussie rules fans want to fill me in on the latest Essendon drugs scandal news?

Well the latest is that 34 players have been issued with show cause notices. The whole thing between Essendon, the AFL and the Anti-Doping Agency is a bit of a debacle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 19, 2014, 08:14:34 pm
In entirely separate news, I'm just going to leave this here:

http://phoboslab.org/ztype/

(there's something really satisfying about the sound effects)

In expert mode:

Final score: 001811

Accuracy: 91.2%

WPM: 62.8

Is that any good?

Better than I did. Only got about 1400 and have that in WPM.

How many levels do you have to go through?  I got bored and stopped after 20

final score: 005432
accuracy: 97.3%
words per minute: 59.5

It was around level 17 (expert mode) I think.  My WPM is low because I'm trying to keep accuracy as high as possible to maintain the score multiplier.  The worst thing is how the little ones swarm and overlap in the later levels, especially when they are almost on you, making it difficult to figure out what to type.  In the level I died, I also ended up targeting something I didn't want because there were ships with duplicate starting letters.  Whenever that happened, it not only broke my multiplier but also forced me to pause and figure out what the target was so I could continue typing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 20, 2014, 09:30:12 am
More nerdy online games!  Now you, too, can relive 9th grade geometry class.

http://euclidthegame.org
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 20, 2014, 10:14:00 am
Nearly failed lvl 5... I feel stupid.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 20, 2014, 10:23:07 am
I just realized I didn't learn how to properly construct stuff in school.

I'm pretty sure we just assumed a compass could just take the length of a line segment and draw a circle of taht length around any point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 20, 2014, 10:27:38 am
I just realized I didn't learn how to properly construct stuff in school.

I'm pretty sure we just assumed a compass could just take the length of a line segment and draw a circle of taht length around any point.

Yeah, I think we did that too.  But I'm trying to make my brain remember information from 23 years ago...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on June 20, 2014, 11:24:10 am
It makes me feel really bad when I draw unnecessary lines... still, very cool. Have you guys finished it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on June 20, 2014, 11:29:15 am
Is anyone here good with STATA?  I'm not, and have to do something in it anyway, and just need help with what should be a simple function.. but can't quite find the answer I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 20, 2014, 11:49:16 am
Stuck at lvl 20 :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 20, 2014, 12:37:52 pm
Stuck at lvl 20 :(

Hint, although there is a faster solution in the comments in that site:

Some judicious use of Thales/similitudes should help you find out where the outer tangents intersect each other, and then you just have to draw the tangent to the circle through that point. The same applies for the inner tangents, although the picture does get more crowded.

20 is the last level. I found 11 (or was it 13? The one where you have to trisect a distance) and 19 interesting too

Inb4 Ozle posts more cryptic puzzles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 20, 2014, 12:59:29 pm
Level 20 is to construct a simple closed curve that fails to partition the space into an "inside" and an "outside".

...Or prove that such a construction is impossible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on June 20, 2014, 02:20:33 pm
Is anyone here good with STATA? 

Yes.

Will I remember to check this thread again to answer your question....? Hmmm. Maybe.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 20, 2014, 07:12:34 pm
Did anyone else find level 18 has mechanical issues? The simplest way to do it seems to be scuppered by the translate tool not working properly. You need to draw three circles tangential to each other all with radius AB. The obvious starting move is to translate AB to the point B, giving circle centered at C. But you can't translate AB onto the point B, forcing you to do something slightly more convoluted to get what should be a simple point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 20, 2014, 07:16:58 pm
Did anyone else find level 18 has mechanical issues? The simplest way to do it seems to be scuppered by the translate tool not working properly. You need to draw three circles tangential to each other all with radius AB. The obvious starting move is to translate AB to the point B, giving circle centered at C. But you can't translate AB onto the point B, forcing you to do something slightly more convoluted to get what should be a simple point.

Yea, that's why I stopped at level 18.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 20, 2014, 07:41:06 pm
It's not really too hard to work around, but it's a little annoying. Just finished the game, took about 70 minutes, which considering I should really have been in bed around 70 minutes ago, I don't think is too bad. Thanks a lot, Kirian.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 20, 2014, 09:37:03 pm
It's not really too hard to work around, but it's a little annoying. Just finished the game, took about 70 minutes, which considering I should really have been in bed around 70 minutes ago, I don't think is too bad. Thanks a lot, Kirian.

How many levels are there in total?  It was taking too long for me to figure out level 15 so I'm taking a break for a little while.

Edit: oh, somebody already said 20 was the last one.  And 15 wasn't hard at all. :D

Edit: and now I get to be stuck on 20 as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 20, 2014, 10:33:29 pm
Did anyone else find level 18 has mechanical issues? The simplest way to do it seems to be scuppered by the translate tool not working properly. You need to draw three circles tangential to each other all with radius AB. The obvious starting move is to translate AB to the point B, giving circle centered at C. But you can't translate AB onto the point B, forcing you to do something slightly more convoluted to get what should be a simple point.

If you go look at Level 8 where you get the translate tool, the construction given done in that level wouldn't work to do the translation you're trying to do.  But that translation is quicker to do by extending segment AB into a line, then drawing the circle of the same radius centered on B.

I'm still having difficulty with 20, though I hadn't even gotten through level 6 when I first posted it... had to work around making time for other stuff!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 21, 2014, 02:14:21 am
Did anyone else find level 18 has mechanical issues? The simplest way to do it seems to be scuppered by the translate tool not working properly. You need to draw three circles tangential to each other all with radius AB. The obvious starting move is to translate AB to the point B, giving circle centered at C. But you can't translate AB onto the point B, forcing you to do something slightly more convoluted to get what should be a simple point.

If you go look at Level 8 where you get the translate tool, the construction given done in that level wouldn't work to do the translation you're trying to do.  But that translation is quicker to do by extending segment AB into a line, then drawing the circle of the same radius centered on B.

I'm still having difficulty with 20, though I hadn't even gotten through level 6 when I first posted it... had to work around making time for other stuff!

You can also translate the segment into a random segment in empty space, then translate the random segment where you actually want it.

That was a fun problem though.  I just drew a bunch of circles.

Edit: still stuck on 20... I think I know how to find the point where the inner tangents would cross, but I don't know how to use that to find the actual tangent line.  And same for the point where the outer tangents would cross... ugh.

Edit: Got it.  Not sure why it works though.  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 21, 2014, 03:34:19 am
Stuck at lvl 20 :(

Hint, although there is a faster solution in the comments in that site:

Some judicious use of Thales/similitudes should help you find out where the outer tangents intersect each other, and then you just have to draw the tangent to the circle through that point. The same applies for the inner tangents, although the picture does get more crowded.

20 is the last level. I found 11 (or was it 13? The one where you have to trisect a distance) and 19 interesting too

Inb4 Ozle posts more cryptic puzzles.

The trisect one was annoying because it wouldn't recognize the intersect I created.  I had to draw two superfluous lines before it would let me place the intersection.

Someone in the comments did the same solution as I did:

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1105/3330/original.jpg?w=800&h

but I can't place the points J and K.  My workaround was:

Place points where triangle ABC intersects line HI.
Draw lines perpendicular to HI through each of those two points.  These lines also trisect AB.
NOW place those trisecting points.


Not sure how the commenter got it to work when I couldn't.  Just a weird bug I guess.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 21, 2014, 11:25:49 am
Is there a better way to solve 19 than using the properties of the centroid of a triangle? I had to reach deep into my lost geometry knowledge for that one haha
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 21, 2014, 11:48:06 am
Stuck at lvl 20 :(

Hint, although there is a faster solution in the comments in that site:

Some judicious use of Thales/similitudes should help you find out where the outer tangents intersect each other, and then you just have to draw the tangent to the circle through that point. The same applies for the inner tangents, although the picture does get more crowded.

20 is the last level. I found 11 (or was it 13? The one where you have to trisect a distance) and 19 interesting too

Inb4 Ozle posts more cryptic puzzles.

I'll correct my previous post: level 11, where you have to move an angle around, was interesting. Didn't find any pretty way to do it, though, just translated the two segments and then drew a bunch of circles and perpendicular lines. EDIT: ok, no, found a way cleaner way to do it. Circles are cool.

I think I did 19 as Walrus, radius of circumscribed circle of equilateral triangle is 1/sqrt(3) of side, rinse and repeat. Was a complete mess by the end :P eHalcyon's solution is much prettier! I did encounter the same bug he did, the segment AB didn't want to intersect with my other stuff, so I had to draw extra lines.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 21, 2014, 12:46:57 pm
I got a D in geometry in 10th grade so count me out of this one. Have fun though!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 21, 2014, 01:19:16 pm
Compass and straight edge constructions were literally my least favorite part of math ever. Had they been presented this manner I might have actually enjoyed them!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 21, 2014, 02:25:53 pm
TES:Skyrim is currently on Sale on Steam.

I can either get the base game for €3,74 or the legendary edition (which contains the 3 downloadable expansion packs) for €10,19.
I'm pretty sure the legendary edition isn't worth it, can anyone confirm?

Are there ay plugins that won't work without the expansions?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on June 21, 2014, 02:46:52 pm
I picked up the Legendary edition for my Xbox off amazon for $20 a while back. I really enjoyed building my own house. I don't know much about the other DLC parts though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on June 21, 2014, 02:50:04 pm
Is there a better way to solve 19 than using the properties of the centroid of a triangle? I had to reach deep into my lost geometry knowledge for that one haha

My solution: Draw a line parallel to AB, and place points C, D, E, and F on it so that CD=DE=EF.  Then make a ray through AC and BF; label the point where they (AC and BF) intersect G.  Then make rays through GD and GE, and wherever those rays intersect AB will trisect AB.

Basically, you make your own trisected line segment, and then scale it up to AB.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on June 21, 2014, 02:53:46 pm
For 19, I used the fact that the centroid of a triangle partitions the medians 2:1
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 21, 2014, 04:21:05 pm
The Skyrim expansions are IMO pretty cool, but not spectacular, and it is my experience that they don't play nice with a bunch of other mods. I'd pick up the base game first and go from there if you're really craving more.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 21, 2014, 06:49:23 pm
This guy was just playing two trumpets at once and it reminded me of this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzq-uCSvfY
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 21, 2014, 06:53:41 pm
Well more like this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pG9fGY-Ga3g
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 21, 2014, 08:34:36 pm
Today I was walking at the park and I saw a box turtle riding on a snapping turtle:

(http://i.imgur.com/M64ZiJt.jpg)

Later, I received this sweet kalimba as a birthday present!

(http://i.imgur.com/i0ZABb2.jpg)

~THE END~
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 21, 2014, 08:36:41 pm
Happy birthday!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 21, 2014, 08:48:30 pm
Happy birthday!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 21, 2014, 09:05:40 pm
Hey, walrus seems to be giving free respect for everybody saying happy birthday to him, so...

Happy birthday!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 21, 2014, 09:08:29 pm
Hey, walrus seems to be giving free respect for everybody saying happy birthday to him, so...

Happy birthday!

are you really that desperate?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 21, 2014, 09:13:27 pm
Hey, walrus seems to be giving free respect for everybody saying happy birthday to him, so...

Happy birthday!

If he's the only one giving respect for a post, then that post doens't help your post to respect ratio to pass 1:1, though you will see a small increase in the actual ratio if your ratio is less than 1:1, but it will be a small decrease if your ratio is above 1:1. Given this analysis, since I'm greater than 1:1, just posting happy birthday would be a net loss for my respect ratio. That's why I have to post some upvote analysis in addition to just saying happy birthday.

Also, Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 21, 2014, 09:14:34 pm
Hey, walrus seems to be giving free respect for everybody saying happy birthday to him, so...

Happy birthday!

If he's the only one giving respect for a post, then that post doens't help your post to respect ratio to pass 1:1, though you will see a small increase in the actual ratio if your ratio is less than 1:1, but it will be a small decrease if your ratio is above 1:1. Given this analysis, since I'm greater than 1:1, just posting happy birthday would be a net loss for my respect ratio. That's why I have to post some upvote analysis in addition to just saying happy birthday.

Also, Happy Birthday!

Well, I have less than 1:1...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 21, 2014, 09:15:09 pm
Hey, walrus seems to be giving free respect for everybody saying happy birthday to him, so...

Happy birthday!

If he's the only one giving respect for a post, then that post doens't help your post to respect ratio to pass 1:1, though you will see a small increase in the actual ratio if your ratio is less than 1:1, but it will be a small decrease if your ratio is above 1:1. Given this analysis, since I'm greater than 1:1, just posting happy birthday would be a net loss for my respect ratio. That's why I have to post some upvote analysis in addition to just saying happy birthday.

Also, Happy Birthday!

Well, I have less than 1:1...

Sad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 21, 2014, 09:20:37 pm
Hey, walrus seems to be giving free respect for everybody saying happy birthday to him, so...

Happy birthday!

If he's the only one giving respect for a post, then that post doens't help your post to respect ratio to pass 1:1, though you will see a small increase in the actual ratio if your ratio is less than 1:1, but it will be a small decrease if your ratio is above 1:1. Given this analysis, since I'm greater than 1:1, just posting happy birthday would be a net loss for my respect ratio. That's why I have to post some upvote analysis in addition to just saying happy birthday.

Also, Happy Birthday!

Well, I have less than 1:1...

Sad.

i don't even know how much respect i have...

but if i were to guess I think it's a lot lower than 1:1
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 21, 2014, 09:22:48 pm
Hey, walrus seems to be giving free respect for everybody saying happy birthday to him, so...

Happy birthday!

If he's the only one giving respect for a post, then that post doens't help your post to respect ratio to pass 1:1, though you will see a small increase in the actual ratio if your ratio is less than 1:1, but it will be a small decrease if your ratio is above 1:1. Given this analysis, since I'm greater than 1:1, just posting happy birthday would be a net loss for my respect ratio. That's why I have to post some upvote analysis in addition to just saying happy birthday.

Also, Happy Birthday!

Well, I have less than 1:1...

Sad.

i don't even know how much respect i have...

but if i were to guess I think it's a lot lower than 1:1

It's ~0.61.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 21, 2014, 09:27:39 pm
i like the respect system overall, I think it's a good thing that you can only upvote not downvote posts, and it's very good that the upvotes aren't anonymus. however, the respect ratio makes only sense for post, not for users. once people start giving the user-ratio-thing any relevance it starts becoming problematic

dont want to name any users but uh
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 21, 2014, 09:30:12 pm
Today I was walking at the park and I saw a box turtle riding on a snapping turtle:

The muddy water makes it hard to see, but it's turtles all the way down.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 21, 2014, 09:32:52 pm
hm my freshly hatched baby lapras accidently killed her mother using surfer in a 2n2 match. that's kind of cruel...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 21, 2014, 10:13:14 pm
hm my freshly hatched baby lapras accidently killed her mother using surfer in a 2n2 match. that's kind of cruel...

In nature, plenty of mothers eat their young.  Time to strike back
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 21, 2014, 10:21:48 pm
Alcohol = respect for everybody!!!

And I wanted to Pavlovianly condition people into wishing me happy birthday! ;D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 21, 2014, 11:50:19 pm
By the way that's a painted turtle ya big dummy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on June 22, 2014, 12:44:08 am
My bad, I got a D in 10th grade turtle classification :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 22, 2014, 02:20:59 am
My bad, I got a D in 10th grade turtle classification :P

This is what's wrong with the society nowadays. So much money is spent on math and science but nobody pays any mind to turtle classification. It's sad. It's really sad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 22, 2014, 03:02:13 am
My bad, I got a D in 10th grade turtle classification :P

This is what's wrong with the society nowadays. So much money is spent on math and science but nobody pays any mind to turtle classification. It's sad. It's really sad.
Turtle classification is science though?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 22, 2014, 03:15:45 am
i like the respect system overall, I think it's a good thing that you can only upvote not downvote posts, and it's very good that the upvotes aren't anonymus. however, the respect ratio makes only sense for post, not for users. once people start giving the user-ratio-thing any relevance it starts becoming problematic

dont want to name any users but uh

There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.

Edit: also, seeing that turtle-on-turtle action is an awesome birthday gift.  Happy birthday, Mr. McFisher.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 22, 2014, 04:32:25 am
Sudgy, you're currently on 1337.  It is imperative that you refrain from making any more insightful or amusing posts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 22, 2014, 04:49:52 am
i like the respect system overall, I think it's a good thing that you can only upvote not downvote posts, and it's very good that the upvotes aren't anonymus. however, the respect ratio makes only sense for post, not for users. once people start giving the user-ratio-thing any relevance it starts becoming problematic

dont want to name any users but uh

There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.

Edit: also, seeing that turtle-on-turtle action is an awesome birthday gift.  Happy birthday, Mr. McFisher.

But there's this number next to my username, and when people give me respect it gets bigger! If you don't like big numbers, you are a communist!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 22, 2014, 06:46:34 am
If you don't like big numbers, you are a communist!

I can confirm that this is true. I Googled used my preferred search engine to find the phrase "communists like big numbers" (with quotes) on the internet, however there were no results. Therefore I can only conclude that if you don't like big numbers, you are a communist.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 22, 2014, 07:51:04 am
Quote
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes. 

exactly
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 22, 2014, 10:04:30 am
My bad, I got a D in 10th grade turtle classification :P

This is what's wrong with the society nowadays. So much money is spent on math and science but nobody pays any mind to turtle classification. It's sad. It's really sad.
Turtle classification is science though?

How dare you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 22, 2014, 11:11:08 am
i like the respect system overall, I think it's a good thing that you can only upvote not downvote posts, and it's very good that the upvotes aren't anonymus. however, the respect ratio makes only sense for post, not for users. once people start giving the user-ratio-thing any relevance it starts becoming problematic

dont want to name any users but uh

There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.

Edit: also, seeing that turtle-on-turtle action is an awesome birthday gift.  Happy birthday, Mr. McFisher.

But there's this number next to my username, and when people give me respect it gets bigger! If you don't like big numbers, you are a communist!

I just gave you the last bit of respect to give you a 1:1 respect to post ratio.  How did that happen in this discussion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on June 22, 2014, 12:32:06 pm
Speaking of respect, I just realized that I have +1'ed more posts than anyone else. And it's not even close. I'm like 1000 above the next closest.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on June 22, 2014, 12:40:30 pm
So maybe "Respect earned" and "Respect given" should both be listed? Maybe instead of post count...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 22, 2014, 12:58:04 pm
This conversation would make Aretha Franklin spin in her grave, if she were dead.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 22, 2014, 01:40:12 pm
So maybe "Respect earned" and "Respect given" should both be listed? Maybe instead of post count...

i'd rather have the respect count not shown. it can make people respect the wrong people, or respect the right people for wrong reasons
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 22, 2014, 01:53:47 pm
So maybe "Respect earned" and "Respect given" should both be listed? Maybe instead of post count...

i'd rather have the respect count not shown. it can make people respect the wrong people, or respect the right people for wrong reasons

Is there a list of people who are worthy of respect on the forum? Who gets to be the arbiter of that?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 22, 2014, 02:56:59 pm
Speaking of respect, I just realized that I have +1'ed more posts than anyone else. And it's not even close. I'm like 1000 above the next closest.

Hey, I'm third!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 22, 2014, 03:45:59 pm
I used to be up there. I guess I just hate everyone now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 22, 2014, 03:50:52 pm
Wow, the top 5 are really pulling away from me.

It's slightly sad that 7 – 4 + 3 x 0 + 1 = ? (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3437.0) has almost half as many views as Interview with Donald X. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5799.0)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 22, 2014, 05:15:21 pm
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 22, 2014, 05:36:36 pm
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?

Please post your opinions in the form of a meme.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 22, 2014, 05:55:35 pm
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?

Or that person could be thinking "there's a meme that is especially applicable here and it'd be kinda funny." Is there something wrong with that?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 22, 2014, 06:02:08 pm
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?

Or that person could be thinking "there's a meme that is especially applicable here and it'd be kinda funny." Is there something wrong with that?

Or that person could be thinking about dinosaurs.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/RailgunX/Awesome.jpg)

...wait, what were we talking about anyway?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 22, 2014, 06:04:47 pm
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?

Please post your opinions in the form of a meme.
(http://en.meemi.info/images/3/3c/Sneb_sanb.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 22, 2014, 06:09:40 pm
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?

Sure.  But you can also get a lot of respect just by announcing that it's your birthday, or that you are getting married, or that your kid was just born.  Or that your post:respect ratio is approaching 1:1.  Those are all awesome things and I'll +1 them to say "that's awesome!" but it doesn't mean that the person is making the forum a better place.

Conversely, there are also people who make the forum a better place by being great participants in the forum games board, but they receive no +1s because it's disabled there and they don't post much on the regular boards. 

I don't put much stock in the actual respect count because it's such a generic measure.  It doesn't tell me if you are especially funny, or if you are really good at Dominion.  I suppose you can get some info out of the measure, but I already know those things just by interacting with the people in the forums and reading their content myself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 22, 2014, 06:41:04 pm
Considering the amount of respect that flies around here because of completely random reasons (the longest threads are "homage to the best card", "random stuff" and "really bad card ideas", innit?), it should be readily apparent that your total respect isn't indicative of anything by itself, and it's just a cute forum meta-game for a lot of members. It's not very different from trying to coordinate a raiding team in WoW to grind random drops!*

*Disclaimer: It might be very different. I have never played WoW.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 22, 2014, 06:55:09 pm
Sure.  But you can also get a lot of respect just by announcing that it's your birthday, or that you are getting married, or that your kid was just born.  Or that your post:respect ratio is approaching 1:1.  Those are all awesome things and I'll +1 them to say "that's awesome!" but it doesn't mean that the person is making the forum a better place.

Conversely, there are also people who make the forum a better place by being great participants in the forum games board, but they receive no +1s because it's disabled there and they don't post much on the regular boards. 

I don't put much stock in the actual respect count because it's such a generic measure.  It doesn't tell me if you are especially funny, or if you are really good at Dominion.  I suppose you can get some info out of the measure, but I already know those things just by interacting with the people in the forums and reading their content myself.
But you can be pretty sure that a high respect count doesn't tell you that a user is having birthdays often, getting married often, or approaching a 1:1 post:respect ratio all the time.

Besides, would you +1 someone who just registered here to tell us that he's getting married? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. People receive +1s for these posts because the community already knows them and likes them. Just like it is with IRL presents: you don't give them to random people just because it happens to be their birthday. You give them to your friends, and the reason is not that it's their birthday, the reason is that they are your friends. I think that this is fine, since pretty much all of the active users here write posts that might be worth fractional respect points in everyone's opinion, but not enough to get an actual +1 from anyone.


Anyway, I think that a high respect count should be treated not like a trophy, but more like your porn folder: it's a very nice thing to have, but not really something that you should be bragging about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 22, 2014, 06:59:35 pm
there is also the problem that, memes aside, people are often giving respect to the wrong posts
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 22, 2014, 07:01:15 pm
forum.dominionstrategy.com, where we argue about everything, even the respect system.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 22, 2014, 07:07:01 pm
forum.dominionstrategy.com, where we argue about everything, even the respect system.

We don't argue about everything!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 22, 2014, 08:25:28 pm
Guys! No need to argue. Let's all be cool.

http://www.jazzandrain.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on June 22, 2014, 09:13:10 pm
forum.dominionstrategy.com, where we argue about everything, even the respect system.

We don't argue about everything!
It's not an argument, it's just contradiction.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 22, 2014, 09:22:37 pm
Legend of Korra premiers next Friday.  Three episodes!

And I'm going to be out of town for the weekend and probably unable to watch.  :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 22, 2014, 10:50:55 pm
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on June 22, 2014, 10:55:37 pm
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 22, 2014, 11:03:23 pm
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!

Hey, it's not what it looks like!  I'm not posting there!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 22, 2014, 11:13:08 pm
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 22, 2014, 11:37:04 pm
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?
That word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 22, 2014, 11:38:13 pm
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?
That word... I do not think it means what you think it means.

Stop procrastinating!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 22, 2014, 11:40:01 pm
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?
That word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
I do not think I think it means what you think I think it means.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 23, 2014, 12:01:49 am
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?
That word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
I do not think I think it means what you think I think it means.
Ah wait, now I think it means what we both think it means, and I think what I thought you thought when you made that post was not what you thought when you made that post. Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 23, 2014, 12:33:18 am
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?
That word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
I do not think I think it means what you think I think it means.
Ah wait, now I think it means what we both think it means, and I think what I thought you thought when you made that post was not what you thought when you made that post. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm not afraid to admit that I have no idea what Awaclus meant.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on June 23, 2014, 01:33:18 am
I think it's a Harem joke.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on June 23, 2014, 03:05:34 am
Legend of Korra premiers next Friday.  Three episodes!

And I'm going to be out of town for the weekend and probably unable to watch.  :'(

It will be pretty sweet. I'm currently rewatching A:TLA with my girlfriend. But I don't think we'll make it through it and the first seasons of Korra before the new season airs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: DStu on June 23, 2014, 04:44:26 am
Stuck at lvl 20 :(

20 doesn't solve for me, but I'm sure I have it correct.  Took me some time to remember how it's done, but I know I learned it at school.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 23, 2014, 04:56:46 am
Going waaaay back a couple pages, here's a neat solution to level 20 of the Euclid game. I haven't seen it posted in the comments on the site.


First some geo. Consider where the outer tangent intersects the two circles, call them A and B. Draw the radii that connect points A and B to the centers. These radii are both perpendicular, so they're parallel. Now, imagine sliding segment AB down those radii, until one of the endpoints overlaps the center of the smaller circle. Let's call that CD, where C is the center of the smaller circle.

This segment CD is still perpendicular to the radii of the larger circle. Now, if the radii of the circle are r1 and r2 with r1 < r2, you can draw a circle of radius (r2 - r1) with the same center as the larger circle. Segment CD is then the tangent from that circle that passes through C.

So, you first make a segment of length r2-r1, then draw the circle described above. However, you still have to construct the specific tangent you want. So, here's the neat trick - if you draw the two possible tangents and the two radii that are perpendicular to those tangents, you get a cyclic quadrilateral, because the opposite angles sum up to 180 degrees. Find the midpoint of the segment connecting the centers, and draw the circle. Where it intersects the r2 - r1 circle is the tangent point. Then, you only have to construct the parallel line.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 23, 2014, 01:49:41 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 01:51:03 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Yes, throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 23, 2014, 01:54:39 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Yes, throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple.

-_- okay but seriously, how?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 23, 2014, 01:58:38 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Yes, throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple.

-_- okay but seriously, how?

Grab it, put it over a trash can and drop it. Then go to a store, choose a phone and pay for it. If it's a web store, you will have to wait for the phone to arrive. That's how you can throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple. Is this detailed enough?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 02:08:15 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Yes, throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple.

-_- okay but seriously, how?

KILL IT WITH FIRE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 02:28:58 pm
Does anybody have even a remotely serious answer for mail-mi? Sometimes just answering somebody's question without dumb sarcastic responses is ok too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 23, 2014, 02:29:33 pm
Does anybody have even a remotely serious answer for mail-mi?
Yes, I'm pretty sure that somebody does.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 02:39:54 pm
Who was not serious?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 02:44:39 pm
Does anybody have even a remotely serious answer for mail-mi?
Yes, I'm pretty sure that somebody does.

Thanks. Your posts are invaluable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 23, 2014, 02:46:41 pm
in defense of with and awaclus: there is a random stuff [serious] thread
in defense of andrewis: well he's right
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 02:51:12 pm
This thread is still all-encompassing. I don't see why people shouldn't be able to post serious things here and hopefully get a serious answer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 02:54:33 pm
I'm sure he's finding the discussion on the lack of utility of his answers useful. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 23, 2014, 02:54:53 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Yes, throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple.

-_- okay but seriously, how?

Despite agreeing with Witherweaver in general here, I'd suggest searching the Apple store, possibly on a computer rather than on the phone itself, for some sort of app that will allow you to examine files.  I have one on Android, I'm certain someone must have created one for iOS.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 03:18:59 pm
I'm sure he's finding the discussion on the lack of utility of his answers useful.

Why are you going out of your way to make posts like this?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 03:28:31 pm
I'm sure he's finding the discussion on the lack of utility of his answers useful.

Why are you going out of your way to make posts like this?

Out of my way?  Making sarcastic posts on f.ds is right up there on my daily to-do list. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 03:29:48 pm
Ok here's my point:

Sometimes the amount of sarcasm I see here just makes me roll my eyes. But sometimes the sarcasm is at the expense of someone else's problem or mistake and that's something I don't stand for. I'm all for jokes and whatever but mail-mi made it clear he had a problem and he wasn't interested in sarcastic responses. Yet out of all the responses he's gotten, Kirian's is the only one that has been helpful. The others were designed to make him feel dumb for purchasing an Iphone in the first place. Not funny.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 03:42:28 pm
So here's my point:

A nonserious response does not preclude the existence of a serious response.  Your complaining about people not answering his problem did nothing in the way of providing him a useful answer.  If you were so concerned, you could have researched the issue and found an answer.

People generally come to this forum to joke around with each other. 

And clearly no one was insulting Mail-Mi for having an IPhone in any serious way.  No post was designed to make him feel dumb.  Mine was just an "Apple sucks!" joking response, and Awaclus' post was on the premise that misinterpreting an ambiguous but obvious statement in the nonobvious way as if it was seriously what the person meant is funny.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 23, 2014, 03:44:33 pm
So here's my point:

A nonserious response does not preclude the existence of a serious response.  Your complaining about people not answering his problem did nothing in the way of providing him a useful answer.  If you were so concerned, you could have researched the issue and found an answer.

People generally come to this forum to joke around with each other. 

And clearly no one was insulting Mail-Mi for having an IPhone in any serious way.  No post was designed to make him feel dumb.  Mine was just an "Apple sucks!" joking response, and Awaclus' post was on the premise that misinterpreting an ambiguous but obvious statement in the nonobvious way as if it was seriously what the person meant is funny.

All you had to do was at the end of your post say "But no, I don't know what's wrong with your phone. It's apple and I Apple products make me vomit"

It's sort of sarcastic-y in nature but actually also informs him that you don't know the answer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 23, 2014, 03:45:24 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

I'm not sure, but I know that software updates actually take up memory on your phone. So downloading updates actually reduces memory. I'm pretty sure Apple works like that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 03:52:39 pm
So here's my point:

A nonserious response does not preclude the existence of a serious response.  Your complaining about people not answering his problem did nothing in the way of providing him a useful answer.  If you were so concerned, you could have researched the issue and found an answer.

People generally come to this forum to joke around with each other. 

And clearly no one was insulting Mail-Mi for having an IPhone in any serious way.  No post was designed to make him feel dumb.  Mine was just an "Apple sucks!" joking response, and Awaclus' post was on the premise that misinterpreting an ambiguous but obvious statement in the nonobvious way as if it was seriously what the person meant is funny.

Well first of all I don't know shit about Iphones so I'm not about to talk about something I know nothing about. Second of all, I was hoping me complaining about you not providing a useful answer might've motivated you to provide a useful answer. But instead all I got were a couple sarcastic comments about how I'm not doing anything useful. Great.

Just because you didn't intend for something to be offensive doesn't mean it wasn't. Think about where mail-mi is coming from. He has this problem, he gets a couple smartass responses, he asks again for a serious answer and he gets a couple more smartass responses. If I were him I would totally frustrated and annoyed. Did you ever stop to think about that?

All you had to do was at the end of your post say "But no, I don't know what's wrong with your phone. It's apple and I Apple products make me vomit"

It's sort of sarcastic-y in nature but actually also informs him that you don't know the answer.

Yes!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 23, 2014, 03:54:08 pm
hey guys it's fine. i knew what coming to this thread would do, i was prepared  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 23, 2014, 04:04:24 pm
hey guys it's fine. i knew what coming to this thread would do, i was prepared  :P

Edge cased!

/drink
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 23, 2014, 05:47:25 pm
hey guys it's fine. i knew what coming to this thread would do, i was prepared  :P

it's not about you though. whether you are offended by the responses here or not isn't really relevant for the point andrew is making, because it depends on your personality, which has nothing to do with the matter at hand. it's about whether or not it's okay to response to a post "I have this problem XX" with a dumb joke.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 23, 2014, 05:53:55 pm
So here's my point:

A nonserious response does not preclude the existence of a serious response.  Your complaining about people not answering his problem did nothing in the way of providing him a useful answer.  If you were so concerned, you could have researched the issue and found an answer.

People generally come to this forum to joke around with each other. 

And clearly no one was insulting Mail-Mi for having an IPhone in any serious way.  No post was designed to make him feel dumb.  Mine was just an "Apple sucks!" joking response, and Awaclus' post was on the premise that misinterpreting an ambiguous but obvious statement in the nonobvious way as if it was seriously what the person meant is funny.

All you had to do was at the end of your post say "But no, I don't know what's wrong with your phone. It's apple and I Apple products make me vomit"

It's sort of sarcastic-y in nature but actually also informs him that you don't know the answer.

If someone offers a joke instead of a solution, I don't assume that he knows the answer but is just taunting me for some reason.  The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: nkirbit on June 23, 2014, 05:56:44 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Have you hooked your phone up to Itunes and looked there?  It's much easier to get a breakdown of what's on your phone in itunes than it is on your phone.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 23, 2014, 06:05:17 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Have you hooked your phone up to Itunes and looked there?  It's much easier to get a breakdown of what's on your phone in itunes than it is on your phone.

It's on iTunes that I have this large other category.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 06:07:07 pm
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Have you hooked your phone up to Itunes and looked there?  It's much easier to get a breakdown of what's on your phone in itunes than it is on your phone.

It's on iTunes that I have this large other category.

Could be relevant:

https://discussions.apple.com/message/19589410
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 23, 2014, 06:24:01 pm
It's avant-garde metal cover time again! There's an original intro composed by me, but it really is Sis puella magica!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCo4B0YsBI4

I guess this could've gone in the Song of the day topic just as well, but I'll post it here, since I'm not a huge fan of posting two consecutive posts in a topic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 23, 2014, 06:28:36 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 23, 2014, 06:29:52 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into

Man, I just wanted to make a funny "Apple sucks!" post :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 23, 2014, 06:54:39 pm
The others were designed to make him feel dumb for purchasing an Iphone in the first place.

And quite rightly so.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 23, 2014, 07:34:37 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into

Man, I just wanted to make a funny "Apple sucks!" post :(

I'm on your side!  I've got nothing against the jokes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 23, 2014, 08:12:43 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into

Man, I just wanted to make a funny "Apple sucks!" post :(

I'm on your side!  I've got nothing against the jokes.

I'm on a third side which says you can make the jokes and Iphones suck, but also be helpful when the person asks for some help.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 09:06:16 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into

Man, I just wanted to make a funny "Apple sucks!" post :(

I'm on your side!  I've got nothing against the jokes.

I'm on a third side which says you can make the jokes and Iphones suck, but also be helpful when the person asks for some help.

I'm on this side as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 23, 2014, 09:13:56 pm
... i now hatched 6 male eevee's in a row. if the next 2 are also male, I'm going to be really mad...

that's like 1/2^6 chance.  :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 23, 2014, 09:20:11 pm
argh!! there has to be some kind of thing that the gender is determined by the pokemon holding an everstone or..

e: oh it's only 12,5% female. that explains it. urrgg :-[

that's still f(x) = 1-(7/8)^8; f( 8 ) = 65,6% chance though

so for 5 i get... barely 50%...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 23, 2014, 10:37:05 pm
argh!! there has to be some kind of thing that the gender is determined by the pokemon holding an everstone or..

e: oh it's only 12,5% female. that explains it. urrgg :-[

that's still f(x) = 1-(7/8)^8; f( 8 ) = 65,6% chance though

so for 5 i get... barely 50%...

I was gonna say, man. Getting a female Eevee is no easy trick. Just be grateful for the new breeding mechanics in 6th gen. Destiny Knot is a godsend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 23, 2014, 10:38:00 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into

Man, I just wanted to make a funny "Apple sucks!" post :(

I'm on your side!  I've got nothing against the jokes.

I'm on a third side which says you can make the jokes and Iphones suck, but also be helpful when the person asks for some help.

Well my point was that if you can't be helpful (due to lack of knowledge or whatever), jokes are OK, at least when the issue isn't something super serious.




@silverspawn, IV breeding for a Togekiss was a pain because of that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 23, 2014, 11:01:01 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into

Man, I just wanted to make a funny "Apple sucks!" post :(

I'm on your side!  I've got nothing against the jokes.

I'm on a third side which says you can make the jokes and Iphones suck, but also be helpful when the person asks for some help.

Well my point was that if you can't be helpful (due to lack of knowledge or whatever), jokes are OK, at least when the issue isn't something super serious.


Every issue is super serious and deserves debate.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 23, 2014, 11:04:48 pm
Quote
The lack of a serious answer already implies that he doesn't know.
that's the only argument I really buy into

Man, I just wanted to make a funny "Apple sucks!" post :(

I'm on your side!  I've got nothing against the jokes.

I'm on a third side which says you can make the jokes and Iphones suck, but also be helpful when the person asks for some help.

Well my point was that if you can't be helpful (due to lack of knowledge or whatever), jokes are OK, at least when the issue isn't something super serious.


Every issue is super serious and deserves debate.

Especially in the Random Stuff thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 23, 2014, 11:36:01 pm
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 24, 2014, 12:10:33 am
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 24, 2014, 12:21:36 am
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.

I accept your debate challenge. Prepare to be debated.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2014, 12:36:08 am
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.

(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/af/afec32e2ee2d8e892611891f5dde48f0c8ffe5ea540125fb8b2bf48772636547.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 24, 2014, 12:37:47 am
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.

(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/af/afec32e2ee2d8e892611891f5dde48f0c8ffe5ea540125fb8b2bf48772636547.jpg)

I'd +1 this, but I see no helpful IPhone information in the meme.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 24, 2014, 11:29:09 am
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.

(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/af/afec32e2ee2d8e892611891f5dde48f0c8ffe5ea540125fb8b2bf48772636547.jpg)

I'd +1 this, but I see no helpful IPhone information in the meme.

By saying there's no helpful IPhone information in the meme you're not providing any helpful IPhone information. BAM! Winning!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 24, 2014, 11:41:10 am
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.

(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/af/afec32e2ee2d8e892611891f5dde48f0c8ffe5ea540125fb8b2bf48772636547.jpg)

I'd +1 this, but I see no helpful IPhone information in the meme.

By saying there's no helpful IPhone information in the meme you're not providing any helpful IPhone information. BAM! Winning!

You just mined mint own argument.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 24, 2014, 11:54:34 am
Yes. Exactly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 24, 2014, 12:04:44 pm
http://www.clickhole.com/article/stick-butter-left-out-room-temperature-you-wont-be-368

This stick of butter was left out at room temperature.  You won't believe what happens next!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 24, 2014, 12:05:40 pm
http://www.clickhole.com/article/stick-butter-left-out-room-temperature-you-wont-be-368

This stick of butter was left out at room temperature.  You won't believe what happens next!

Cold fusion is discovered?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 24, 2014, 12:10:39 pm
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.

I accept your debate challenge. Prepare to be debated.

You guys are great at this.  You're master debaters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 24, 2014, 12:11:58 pm
And now I'd like to begin the debate on whether or not every issue serious or not deserves debate. I say yes.

I say we need to debate whether of not we should be debating about debating. Did that makes sense? I don't know. We can debate it.

I accept your debate challenge. Prepare to be debated.

You guys are great at this.  You're master debaters.

Masterderpbaters!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 24, 2014, 12:58:39 pm
http://www.clickhole.com/article/stick-butter-left-out-room-temperature-you-wont-be-368

This stick of butter was left out at room temperature.  You won't believe what happens next!

Butter.....or margarine?  I tend to think that the "butter" shown is margarine. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 24, 2014, 01:00:09 pm
'Other' files will be non standard types that iPhone doesn't recognise.

For example, files within applications.

Do you something that either stores or loads files?
On mine I have cloudreader comic book reader, if I transfer files into that, because they are stored in the phones memory and are lot apps, they show up as 'other'

A non standard book reader or file depository would do the same.
Could also be files you saved onto you iphone via dropping them in the user directory.

Somewhere to check on iTunes would be the apps page at the bottom, if you have a section whereby you could load files in, chances are it would be there.

Give me a shout of this doesn't help and I'll have a look deeper

Ozle
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2014, 02:40:19 pm
'Other' files will be non standard types that iPhone doesn't recognise.

For example, files within applications.

Do you something that either stores or loads files?
On mine I have cloudreader comic book reader, if I transfer files into that, because they are stored in the phones memory and are lot apps, they show up as 'other'

A non standard book reader or file depository would do the same.
Could also be files you saved onto you iphone via dropping them in the user directory.

Somewhere to check on iTunes would be the apps page at the bottom, if you have a section whereby you could load files in, chances are it would be there.

Give me a shout of this doesn't help and I'll have a look deeper

Ozle
I had ringtone maker, but it was deleted and wasn't taking up a lot of space anyway.

I have a pending software update, I'm gonna see if that's taking up a lot of space by downloading it.

also: wow ozle being the helpful one...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 24, 2014, 03:18:40 pm
'Other' files will be non standard types that iPhone doesn't recognise.

For example, files within applications.

Do you something that either stores or loads files?
On mine I have cloudreader comic book reader, if I transfer files into that, because they are stored in the phones memory and are lot apps, they show up as 'other'

A non standard book reader or file depository would do the same.
Could also be files you saved onto you iphone via dropping them in the user directory.

Somewhere to check on iTunes would be the apps page at the bottom, if you have a section whereby you could load files in, chances are it would be there.

Give me a shout of this doesn't help and I'll have a look deeper

Ozle
I mean, Ozle's being the reasonable person in this discussion.  That itself should scare you straight.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 24, 2014, 03:22:27 pm
Man, Ozle really let me down here.

Also, Mail-Mi, did you read that link?  There's a decent chance it's app data, stuff like text messages, cookies, caches, etc.  I never used an IPhone, but I know on my Android devices the stored text messages would end up taking a ton of memory, and finding the right place to look to see how much space they took wasn't immediately obvious. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2014, 03:22:35 pm
'Other' files will be non standard types that iPhone doesn't recognise.

For example, files within applications.

Do you something that either stores or loads files?
On mine I have cloudreader comic book reader, if I transfer files into that, because they are stored in the phones memory and are lot apps, they show up as 'other'

A non standard book reader or file depository would do the same.
Could also be files you saved onto you iphone via dropping them in the user directory.

Somewhere to check on iTunes would be the apps page at the bottom, if you have a section whereby you could load files in, chances are it would be there.

Give me a shout of this doesn't help and I'll have a look deeper

Ozle
I had ringtone maker, but it was deleted and wasn't taking up a lot of space anyway.

I have a pending software update, I'm gonna see if that's taking up a lot of space by downloading it.

also: wow ozle being the helpful one...

update: i updated the software, and it reduced the other space to less than half. I am content now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2014, 03:22:56 pm
Man, Ozle really let me down here.

Also, Mail-Mi, did you read that link?  There's a decent chance it's app data, stuff like text messages, cookies, etc.  I never used an IPhone, but I know on my Android devices the stored text messages would end up taking a ton of memory, and finding the right place to look to see how much space they took wasn't immediately obvious.
I did, and i deleted a lot of text history, which gave me ~half a gig of space.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 24, 2014, 04:03:02 pm
Eating my first watermelon of the year.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 24, 2014, 04:04:39 pm
Man, Ozle really let me down here.

Also, Mail-Mi, did you read that link?  There's a decent chance it's app data, stuff like text messages, cookies, etc.  I never used an IPhone, but I know on my Android devices the stored text messages would end up taking a ton of memory, and finding the right place to look to see how much space they took wasn't immediately obvious.
I did, and i deleted a lot of text history, which gave me ~half a gig of space.

Have you also tried turning it off and on again?
Or giving it a wash in warm soapy water?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 24, 2014, 04:06:27 pm
In other news, i got a promotion today. Not a new job, but moved up one level in the company hierarchy, which means better percentage based pay rises and bonuses, yay.

Technically its not good news as im now of the level of the job i have been doing for a year, but the recognition was nice. Especially as had to do a presentation for some of the company bigwigs
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2014, 04:07:03 pm
Man, Ozle really let me down here.

Also, Mail-Mi, did you read that link?  There's a decent chance it's app data, stuff like text messages, cookies, etc.  I never used an IPhone, but I know on my Android devices the stored text messages would end up taking a ton of memory, and finding the right place to look to see how much space they took wasn't immediately obvious.
I did, and i deleted a lot of text history, which gave me ~half a gig of space.

Have you also tried turning it off and on again?
Or giving it a wash in warm soapy water?

Oh, it's good now. I updated the software to 7.1.1 (i think) and that pending update was taking up a lot of space. I have about 2.5 gigs of free space now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 24, 2014, 05:14:11 pm
In other news, i got a promotion today. Not a new job, but moved up one level in the company hierarchy, which means better percentage based pay rises and bonuses, yay.

Technically its not good news as im now of the level of the job i have been doing for a year, but the recognition was nice. Especially as had to do a presentation for some of the company bigwigs

This is all well and good, but... How much of that extra dosh are you gonna share with us, Ozle?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 24, 2014, 05:30:15 pm
Well, I need to get a pay rise/ bonus first....

But I'd buy you a beer if you meet me in the pub to celebrate on Saturday!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 24, 2014, 05:31:16 pm
Although they may have given me the higher level because they are going to stick me with another 10 staff to look after
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on June 25, 2014, 12:10:44 pm
Man, there's only one person above me that is not one of the owners. Guess that happens with locally owned businesses.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 25, 2014, 06:25:28 pm
fDS fact of the day:

Approximately 3/4 of the time the word thrash is used on this forum, the author meant to say trash.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 25, 2014, 06:30:37 pm
fDS fact of the day:

Approximately 3/4 of the time the word thrash is used on this forum, the author meant to say trash.
Amazing! I would think that it would be well over 3/4 of the time. (assuming you meant "trash")
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on June 25, 2014, 07:08:06 pm
fDS fact of the day:

Approximately 3/4 of the time the word thrash is used on this forum, the author meant to say trash.

I've never understood this phenomenon. It seems like more than a typo, since people do it so frequently. Is thrash a word for trash in some other languages or something?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 25, 2014, 08:58:06 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 25, 2014, 08:59:30 pm
im actually really sad now  :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 25, 2014, 09:01:02 pm
(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/200H/f/2012/035/8/3/rainbow_dash_lying_vector_by_scrimpeh-d4on8s6.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 25, 2014, 09:20:12 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk
How? Didn't you have a million male Eevees?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 25, 2014, 09:28:16 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk
How? Didn't you have a million male Eevees?
i had about 15,  but not with me

plus they are all lvl 1, i doubt they would have made a difference
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on June 25, 2014, 10:00:39 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk
How? Didn't you have a million male Eevees?
i had about 15,  but not with me

plus they are all lvl 1, i doubt they would have made a difference
I don't know, I hear they can be pretty badass.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 25, 2014, 10:01:51 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk
How? Didn't you have a million male Eevees?
i had about 15,  but not with me

plus they are all lvl 1, i doubt they would have made a difference
I don't know, I hear they can be pretty badass.
only the female ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 25, 2014, 10:25:07 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk

Nuzlocke?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 25, 2014, 10:31:45 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk

Nuzlocke?

ya
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 25, 2014, 10:40:13 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk
How? Didn't you have a million male Eevees?
i had about 15,  but not with me

plus they are all lvl 1, i doubt they would have made a difference
I don't know, I hear they can be pretty badass.
You're probably a lot higher than Lvl 1 though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on June 26, 2014, 02:05:43 am
fDS fact of the day:

Approximately 3/4 of the time the word thrash is used on this forum, the author meant to say trash.
How often are mine and mint misused?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 26, 2014, 09:30:38 am
fDS fact of the day:

Approximately 3/4 of the time the word thrash is used on this forum, the author meant to say trash.
How often are mine and mint misused?

Unintentionally?  Probably not very often.  Intentionally?  Way too often.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on June 26, 2014, 09:41:31 am
fDS fact of the day:

Approximately 3/4 of the time the word thrash is used on this forum, the author meant to say trash.

I've never understood this phenomenon. It seems like more than a typo, since people do it so frequently. Is thrash a word for trash in some other languages or something?

It may be due to autocorrect or because thrash is typo which slips by both spellcheck and a casual glance of the eye.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 26, 2014, 02:20:22 pm
So peeps...... I'm having a party which I am throwin a quiz for.
And I'm doing a quiz.

And I decided the theme this time is going to be collaborative quiz, so I am asking different groups of people to set questions.

I have allocated 5 points worth of questions to FDS if you want them.
Can be 5 questions at one point each, one 5 point question or any mix.

It's a mixed group, male and female, 21 to 40 ages.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 26, 2014, 03:17:26 pm
Any particular topic?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ozle on June 26, 2014, 03:32:50 pm
Anything people like!
That's the beauty of it
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 26, 2014, 03:40:56 pm
Maximum possible break in Snooker.


155, although everyone will think it's 147.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 26, 2014, 03:45:26 pm
Maximum possible break in Snooker.


155, although everyone will think it's 147.

Or, you know, "What is a Snooker? sounds like a good enough trivia question.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on June 26, 2014, 04:07:16 pm
1st porn actress on film receiving a donkey punch.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on June 26, 2014, 05:48:55 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk

Nuzlocke?
Wait you are allowed to breed in a Nuzlocke?

ya
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on June 26, 2014, 07:17:36 pm
In other news, i got a promotion today. Not a new job, but moved up one level in the company hierarchy, which means better percentage based pay rises and bonuses, yay.

Technically its not good news as im now of the level of the job i have been doing for a year, but the recognition was nice. Especially as had to do a presentation for some of the company bigwigs

This is the secret hidden in plain sight about getting a promotion: the best way to prove that you're the best candidate for the job is to already be doing the job. Preferably, voluntarily.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 26, 2014, 07:39:09 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk

Nuzlocke?

ya
Wait you are allowed to breed in a Nuzlocke?

i don't think I really played nutzlocke, I just did a thing I do that's similar. you can't run from wild pokemon, all fainted pokemon are dead and must be freed (and can't use special moves anymore) and if you lose all pokemon you lost the game. you can't undo any progress via load. it's rules that I pretty much made up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 26, 2014, 08:16:52 pm
So peeps...... I'm having a party which I am throwin a quiz for.
And I'm doing a quiz.

And I decided the theme this time is going to be collaborative quiz, so I am asking different groups of people to set questions.

I have allocated 5 points worth of questions to FDS if you want them.

Man, this makes me want to do a pyramid-style writeup like for quiz team questions...

Among the thousands of soldiers who died early deaths in the Gallipoli campaign, only one can claim to have caused a lasting major policy shift due to his death: promising scientists are no longer allowed to enlist for combat duty in the British armed forces.  Educated at Eton and Oxford, he studied physics and chemistry, and began work as a researcher and lecturer just a few years before his death.  His research predicted certain gaps in the periodic table that were later filled by new elements.  Name this scientist, who used X-ray spectra to show that an element's atomic number is a physical phenomenon and not an arbitrary assignment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 26, 2014, 08:36:44 pm
... lost all pokemon. i think i had over 40h playtime. thatsucks...

explosion too stronk

Nuzlocke?
Wait you are allowed to breed in a Nuzlocke?

I don't think it's explicitly banned, but there are lots of ways to vary Nuzlocke. If you use the standard rule of "can only catch the first pokemon on each route, if you don't catch it you don't get a pokemon that route", then it's not very likely you'll get breedable pokemon anyways.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on June 26, 2014, 09:22:57 pm
1st porn actress on film receiving a donkey punch.

Oh man, I thought this was an answer to what a Snooker is.  It just now occurred to me that this was your own trivia question.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 26, 2014, 10:46:43 pm
What three types are the pokemon you are given a choice between at the start of every pokemon game?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 26, 2014, 11:21:57 pm
In the card game dominion, what is the kingdom card most commonly regarded as the worst?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on June 26, 2014, 11:51:51 pm
In the card game dominion, what is the kingdom card most commonly regarded as the worst?
Province
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 26, 2014, 11:57:02 pm
In the card game dominion, what is the kingdom card most commonly regarded as the worst?
Province

Colony
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on June 26, 2014, 11:57:21 pm
Taught Dominion to a newbie tonight. The first game was four players and included Mountebank, Goons, and King's Court. His first Dominion lesson was a good one:

Jerks win.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on June 27, 2014, 12:00:08 am
In the card game dominion, what is the kingdom card most commonly regarded as the worst?
Province

Colony
I'm pretty sure Colony is not as commonly used as Province.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 27, 2014, 12:06:34 am
In the card game dominion, what is the kingdom card most commonly regarded as the worst?
Province

Colony
I'm pretty sure Colony is not as commonly used as Province.

It's not about being used more, it's about being the worst.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 27, 2014, 03:05:56 am
I'm pretty sure Province and Colony aren't kingdom cards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on June 27, 2014, 12:13:12 pm
I'm pretty sure Province and Colony aren't kingdom cards.

I'm pretty sure you're right.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 27, 2014, 12:21:12 pm
I'm pretty sure Province and Colony aren't kingdom cards.

I'm pretty sure you're right.

I'm pretty sure you're pretty sure.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 27, 2014, 12:22:18 pm
Trivia: what does f.ds forum member eHalcyon use as his profile picture in that forum?

Which Dominion promo card was most recently announced?

In Chinese chess, corresponding pieces have different labels for the red and black players. Why? What is the modern meaning of the Chinese character that labels the Rook-like piece of the Black player? How does the Cannon piece move, and how does it capture?

The Chinese classical elements are known as the Wu Xing. What elements are they?

Why is the main character of Orange is the New Black in jail?

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 27, 2014, 03:12:06 pm
I'm pretty sure Province and Colony aren't kingdom cards.

I'm pretty sure you're right.

I'm pretty sure you're pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure he's KingZog3.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 27, 2014, 03:53:46 pm
I am resisting the temptation to make a joke account named "Pretty Sure" just to say "I'm pretty sure".

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 27, 2014, 04:03:56 pm
Anybody else playing Shovel Knight? It delivers on the hype, I gotta say. If you like platform action games, check it out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 27, 2014, 04:06:43 pm
I'm pretty.

EDIT: Hey, it's not fair that the tsukkomi gets all the respect! :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on June 27, 2014, 04:08:03 pm
I'm pretty.

Sure...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 27, 2014, 04:45:03 pm
I'm pretty.

Sure...

dunno, he reminds me of the sc2 progamer idra, whom i really like. I think it's reasonable to call him pretty  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 27, 2014, 04:58:55 pm
I'm pretty.

Sure...

dunno, he reminds me of the sc2 progamer idra, whom i really like. I think it's reasonable to call him pretty  ::)

Awaclus is a BM ragequitter?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 27, 2014, 05:05:01 pm
I'm pretty.

Sure...

dunno, he reminds me of the sc2 progamer idra, whom i really like. I think it's reasonable to call him pretty  ::)

Awaclus is a BM ragequitter?
Yeah, I ragequit whenever Black Market is on the board. Actually that isn't true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 27, 2014, 06:46:01 pm
I'm pretty.

Sure...

dunno, he reminds me of the sc2 progamer idra, whom i really like. I think it's reasonable to call him pretty  ::)

Awaclus is a BM ragequitter?

you lack appreciation for the finer details. mostly people who don't know the game very well put idra in the usual BM case

and i meant the looks, obviously.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on June 28, 2014, 06:26:20 pm
Re: Respect

My most respected post:

...

My second most respected post:

...

The first took 10 seconds. The second represents many hours of hard work.

It's pretty clear respect is given for funny posts and posts that contribute to the Dominion community (good commentary, tournaments, coding, etc.).

I also +1 a lot of posts (#7 on that leaderboard!!) because I want to encourage more of the content on this forum that I like (game reports, tournaments, insightful comments, etc). I will sometimes +1 entire interesting threads in order to fight against the tidal waves of memes. I feel like I am fighting the long defeat on that one.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on June 28, 2014, 06:35:56 pm
How did you find your most respected and second most respected post?

(By the way, I +1'ed the latter when I saw that I hadn't already, so you're 1 step closer)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 28, 2014, 06:45:31 pm
my most respected post is also just a dumb joke...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 28, 2014, 06:50:22 pm
I don't think I've ever gotten more than 3 respect for a useful post. Oneliners and memes is where it's at (and fanfic and getting engaged, etc).

Aside from an overhaul of the respect system (something along the lines of splitting "respect" and plain "likes"), I don't think there's any way to make "respect" more tied to, well, anything relevant.

-> I don't think there's any way to check what your most respected post is, aside from keeping a running tally yourself. BTW, my second most respected post is a joke about how respect is not tied to your understanding of Dominion, how's that for irony.

EDIT: I notice that my writing style is incredibly poor. I've used "I don't think" three times in this post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 28, 2014, 06:53:27 pm
I don't think I've ever gotten more than 3 respect for a useful post. Oneliners and memes is where it's at (and fanfic and getting engaged, etc).

Aside from an overhaul of the respect system (something along the lines of splitting "respect" and plain "likes"), I don't think there's any way to make "respect" more tied to, well, anything relevant.

-> I don't think there's any way to check what your most respected post is, aside from keeping a running tally yourself.

I'm quite pleased by the fact that I once held message of the week, for a serious Dominion post with no jokes or memes in it (or at least if there were it wasn't the main part of the post).

It was a bit of a freak incident, mind, but you know.

Edit: Post 2000! No, that ! is a piece of punctuation, I'm not claiming I've made 2000! posts, since I'm pretty sure that's magnitudes larger than the amount of electrons I'd need to write down the number of magnitudes larger that would be than the number of electrons in the universe. But still this is my 2,000th post, talking about one of my most respected posts, which is almost fitting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 28, 2014, 06:55:51 pm
I don't think I've ever gotten more than 3 respect for a useful post. Oneliners and memes is where it's at (and fanfic and getting engaged, etc).

Aside from an overhaul of the respect system (something along the lines of splitting "respect" and plain "likes"), I don't think there's any way to make "respect" more tied to, well, anything relevant.

-> I don't think there's any way to check what your most respected post is, aside from keeping a running tally yourself.

I'm quite pleased by the fact that I once held message of the week, for a serious Dominion post with no jokes or memes in it (or at least if there were it wasn't the main part of the post).

It was a bit of a freak incident, mind, but you know.

Point made weaker by the fact that you just upgraded to Mountebank.

I really can't help myself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on June 28, 2014, 07:00:05 pm
Edit: Post 2000! No, that ! is a piece of punctuation, I'm not claiming I've made 2000! posts, since I'm pretty sure that's magnitudes larger than the amount of electrons I'd need to write down the number of magnitudes larger that would be than the number of electrons in the universe. But still this is my 2,000th post, talking about one of my most respected posts, which is almost fitting.
2000! is "only" about 10^6000
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 28, 2014, 07:41:41 pm
My most respected post got hundreds of upvotes.  Theory did it in response to me saying it happened.  My next was as how.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 28, 2014, 07:51:06 pm
My most respected post got hundreds of upvotes.  Theory did it in response to me saying it happened.  My next was as how.

Finally! The real identity of that poster was keeping me awake at night! Now that this mistery was solved and that eHalcyon got his avatar back, I shall rest easy...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on June 28, 2014, 10:13:27 pm
My most respected post got hundreds of upvotes.  Theory did it in response to me saying it happened.  My next was as how.

Finally! The real identity of that poster was keeping me awake at night! Now that this mistery was solved and that eHalcyon got his avatar back, I shall rest easy...

For what it's worth, I was SheCanSayNo. I'm glad SheCantSayNo upvoted it, since it was meant in good fun!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on June 28, 2014, 10:21:18 pm
Oh yeah? Well I created an alt just to respect my most respected post!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 28, 2014, 11:27:00 pm
Oh yeah? Well I created an alt just to respect my most respected post!
that's like respect masturbating
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 29, 2014, 03:31:05 am
I narrarated erotic fan fiction last night for the second time in a skypegroup.  Weredolphin seems to be their favorite flavor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on June 29, 2014, 05:08:03 am
Edit: Post 2000! No, that ! is a piece of punctuation, I'm not claiming I've made 2000! posts, since I'm pretty sure that's magnitudes larger than the amount of electrons I'd need to write down the number of magnitudes larger that would be than the number of electrons in the universe. But still this is my 2,000th post, talking about one of my most respected posts, which is almost fitting.
2000! is "only" about 10^6000

Oh. Well, um, I'm a small universe believer so hah, jokes on you. There's only like 1,000 electrons in the universe!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on June 29, 2014, 05:10:48 am
So peeps...... I'm having a party which I am throwin a quiz for.
And I'm doing a quiz.

And I decided the theme this time is going to be collaborative quiz, so I am asking different groups of people to set questions.

I have allocated 5 points worth of questions to FDS if you want them.
Can be 5 questions at one point each, one 5 point question or any mix.

It's a mixed group, male and female, 21 to 40 ages.

What play was being performed at the Apollo Theatre when the ceiling collapsed in March of this year?

Not hard to google, but most people are likely to remember the event but not this detail.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 29, 2014, 05:53:54 am
This post is my most respected post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on June 29, 2014, 06:05:44 am
This post is my least respected post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 29, 2014, 06:33:05 am
This (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11083.msg378207#msg378207) and  this (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3437.msg357112#msg357112) are [EDIT: no longer] tied for my most respected post, if I'm remembering correctly. One is an one-liner, the other is an equation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 29, 2014, 09:34:56 am
This post is my most respected post.

good try
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on June 29, 2014, 09:42:26 am
This post is my most respected post.

good try

I thought so but apparently not.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on June 29, 2014, 10:16:07 am
This post is my least respected post.

...Good try.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 29, 2014, 10:25:31 am
This (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11083.msg378207#msg378207) and  this (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3437.msg357112#msg357112) are [EDIT: no longer] tied for my most respected post, if I'm remembering correctly. One is an one-liner, the other is an equation.
i never upvoted a mine/mint joke...

the equation is quite good though
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on June 29, 2014, 10:27:36 am
my most respected post is this (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10398.msg348807#msg348807)...  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on June 29, 2014, 10:29:31 am
Has this masterpiece been posted here yet?

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/241084
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on June 29, 2014, 04:14:16 pm
my most respected post is this (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10398.msg348807#msg348807)...  ::)
Mines probably still this (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg19508#msg19508) from the homage thead
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on June 30, 2014, 12:55:17 am
200 "bad" comics

http://www.nedroid.com/bcpage1.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on June 30, 2014, 02:00:55 am
Add me to the "doesn't get the mlp fandom" crowd.  I'm a dad, I've seen a few.  Drivel, annoying, terrible.  "Oh, I don't like this present that pony gave me, I think I'll re-gift it..." x4 or however many main ponies there are.  Guess what happens next.  A moral about honesty with your friends.

Adventure Time, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, Stephen Universe, I like kids shows.  But mlp is like Barney/Dora morality+education stuff.

So having read this a while back, I tried watching a couple of episodes of Adventure Time.  Does it get better?  Or at least does it start to make sense at some point?  Surrealism for the sake of surrealism just isn't great as kids' TV...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on June 30, 2014, 03:31:14 am
Add me to the "doesn't get the mlp fandom" crowd.  I'm a dad, I've seen a few.  Drivel, annoying, terrible.  "Oh, I don't like this present that pony gave me, I think I'll re-gift it..." x4 or however many main ponies there are.  Guess what happens next.  A moral about honesty with your friends.

Adventure Time, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, Stephen Universe, I like kids shows.  But mlp is like Barney/Dora morality+education stuff.

So having read this a while back, I tried watching a couple of episodes of Adventure Time.  Does it get better?  Or at least does it start to make sense at some point?  Surrealism for the sake of surrealism just isn't great as kids' TV...

I think if you didn't like Adventure Time right away, you won't grow to like it.

I would point out I was wrong in the quote above, in that I thought I was referring to mlp but was actually referencing Strawberry Shortcake.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on June 30, 2014, 03:41:39 am
Watched the new LoK episodes.  And I also went and watched the leaked episode 4-6 (in Spanish only, but with subtitles).  I think this is the best season yet, and the story is as compelling as anything in ATLA.  The Big Bad is very interesting despite how little has been revealed of him, and the overall concept for the group of villains is something I've wanted for a long time.  Awesome, awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 01, 2014, 02:34:41 am
This game (http://gzgreg.github.io/DerivativeClicker/), DerivativeClicker was posted once before, but right now it's in a pretty hilarious place. The latest update kinda breaks things in terms of, you can now grow faster than the game can slow you down due to how reset currency work, which means by far the largest numbers I've legitimately seen in a video game. Before this update, I was sitting at around $10^80, give or take a few orders of magnitude. Now I'm at about $10^155 and still rapidly growing. Or to put that into perspective, I have around $100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, give or take.

There's almost certainly going to be a forced reset next update (on Friday) but you know. Enjoy it being broken while it lasts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 01, 2014, 02:45:51 am
I've spent the last week designing a board game and creating a playable prototype. I just played it for the first time tonight and our group loved it! This is the first game design that I've been excited enough about to take this far in the design process. I'm just so happy right now because everyone genuinely loved it (and made excellent suggestions for improvement) and there is like no better validation than someone enjoying something you created. :) :) :)

By the way, the game is called Apprentice and I'm hoping to run it as a forum game after I get a bit more playtesting in. Hopefully within a couple weeks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 01, 2014, 02:49:10 am
I've spent the last week designing a board game and creating a playable prototype. I just played it for the first time tonight and our group loved it! This is the first game design that I've been excited enough about to take this far in the design process. I'm just so happy right now because everyone genuinely loved it (and made excellent suggestions for improvement) and there is like no better validation than someone enjoying something you created. :) :) :)

By the way, the game is called Apprentice and I'm hoping to run it as a forum game after I get a bit more playtesting in. Hopefully within a couple weeks!

Ooh, I want in! I won't steal all of your ideas and try and sell it on as my own, promise!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 01, 2014, 02:56:22 am
I've spent the last week designing a board game and creating a playable prototype. I just played it for the first time tonight and our group loved it! This is the first game design that I've been excited enough about to take this far in the design process. I'm just so happy right now because everyone genuinely loved it (and made excellent suggestions for improvement) and there is like no better validation than someone enjoying something you created. :) :) :)

By the way, the game is called Apprentice and I'm hoping to run it as a forum game after I get a bit more playtesting in. Hopefully within a couple weeks!

Ooh, I want in! I won't steal all of your ideas and try and sell it on as my own, promise!

I think, as an anti-piracy measure, I'll give each player 1/4 of the rules and let them figure it out from there.

(And I'll make sure you only get the setup instructions.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 01, 2014, 03:17:45 am
Can you say what kind of game it is?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 01, 2014, 03:35:00 am
Watched the new LoK episodes.  And I also went and watched the leaked episode 4-6 (in Spanish only, but with subtitles).  I think this is the best season yet, and the story is as compelling as anything in ATLA.  The Big Bad is very interesting despite how little has been revealed of him, and the overall concept for the group of villains is something I've wanted for a long time.  Awesome, awesome stuff.

Glad to hear. I finished AtLA Book 2 yesterday. So I still have four books to go before I get to the new episodes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 01, 2014, 09:30:54 am
I've spent the last week designing a board game and creating a playable prototype. I just played it for the first time tonight and our group loved it! This is the first game design that I've been excited enough about to take this far in the design process. I'm just so happy right now because everyone genuinely loved it (and made excellent suggestions for improvement) and there is like no better validation than someone enjoying something you created. :) :) :)

By the way, the game is called Apprentice and I'm hoping to run it as a forum game after I get a bit more playtesting in. Hopefully within a couple weeks!

Ooh, I want in! I won't steal all of your ideas and try and sell it on as my own, promise!

I think, as an anti-piracy measure, I'll give each player 1/4 of the rules and let them figure it out from there.

(And I'll make sure you only get the setup instructions.)

I completely misread that as Dsell giving Tables only the sheep instructions.

Been playing too many resource-gathering games.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 01, 2014, 11:18:35 am
Can you say what kind of game it is?

Sure, it's a resource collection game in which the actions you can take are determined by a moving/blocking game on a grid of building tiles.

The actions you can take grow stronger-and more expensive-the more times you use a certain building. It makes for very simple decisions at the start but very tough ones towards the end. And the options you have at the end are heavily influenced by the ones you take at the start. Overall I was thrilled by how well the game "worked" the first time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 01, 2014, 01:26:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYPG155DagM
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 01, 2014, 01:45:16 pm
Watched the new LoK episodes.  And I also went and watched the leaked episode 4-6 (in Spanish only, but with subtitles).  I think this is the best season yet, and the story is as compelling as anything in ATLA.  The Big Bad is very interesting despite how little has been revealed of him, and the overall concept for the group of villains is something I've wanted for a long time.  Awesome, awesome stuff.

Glad to hear. I finished AtLA Book 2 yesterday. So I still have four books to go before I get to the new episodes.

Book 2 was great because Toph (and, OK, also Azula) and Book 3 just gets increasingly more epic as you approach the end.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 01, 2014, 02:08:29 pm
Sorry, in Spanish, but I just got reminded of this:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsgEKAWpMes/TObV2nuUlgI/AAAAAAAAAfU/2yrnJtm_Q1w/s1600/maf140a.png)

Anyone else love Mafalda?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 01, 2014, 02:32:48 pm
Sorry, in Spanish, but I just got reminded of this:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RsgEKAWpMes/TObV2nuUlgI/AAAAAAAAAfU/2yrnJtm_Q1w/s1600/maf140a.png)

Anyone else love Mafalda?

I just translated it via Google Translate. I think I understand what is being said, but I don't think I get the joke.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 01, 2014, 02:42:55 pm
I guess it works better if you know the characters. They are all young children that are uncharacteristically worried by grown-up stuff (although maybe that's always the case in the late 20th Argentina?).

Mafalda is worried about World politics and is always talking about that. Susanita only thinks about getting married and having children; her parents are kinda well-off. Felipe (the guy in the first strip) is more of a normal kid his age. Manolito (the last kid) is the son of a grocer, and wants to become a millionaire when he grows up.

The first strip just shows Susanita being shallow, as she conflates the way the US is portrayed in television with reality (American blue collar workers would all somehow be blonde, handsome, and have a car).

The second strip, the one I actually like, Manolito is concerned that Susanita is becoming a socialist because her comment kinda sounds like she's questioning why there are both poor people and rich people, and not only rich people, although that's obviously not what she meant.

For once, I feel like I am not actually making the joke funnier.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 01, 2014, 02:55:03 pm
I guess it works better if you know the characters. They are all young children that are uncharacteristically worried by grown-up stuff (although maybe that's always the case in the late 20th Argentina?).

Mafalda is worried about World politics and is always talking about that. Susanita only thinks about getting married and having children; her parents are kinda well-off. Felipe (the guy in the first strip) is more of a normal kid his age. Manolito (the last kid) is the son of a grocer, and wants to become a millionaire when he grows up.

The first strip just shows Susanita being shallow, as she conflates the way the US is portrayed in television with reality (American blue collar workers would all somehow be blonde, handsome, and have a car).

The second strip, the one I actually like, Manolito is concerned that Susanita is becoming a socialist because her comment kinda sounds like she's questioning why there are both poor people and rich people, and not only rich people, although that's obviously not what she meant.

For once, I feel like I am not actually making the joke funnier.

I appreciate the run-down. I definitely didn't pick up on the context in the second strip.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on July 01, 2014, 03:17:28 pm
I've spent the last week designing a board game and creating a playable prototype. I just played it for the first time tonight and our group loved it! This is the first game design that I've been excited enough about to take this far in the design process. I'm just so happy right now because everyone genuinely loved it (and made excellent suggestions for improvement) and there is like no better validation than someone enjoying something you created. :) :) :)

By the way, the game is called Apprentice and I'm hoping to run it as a forum game after I get a bit more playtesting in. Hopefully within a couple weeks!

Congrats! The next hurdle is getting people who don't care about your emotional well-being to tell you they like it. That's a bigger challenge generally. :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on July 01, 2014, 03:45:49 pm
I've spent the last week designing a board game and creating a playable prototype. I just played it for the first time tonight and our group loved it! This is the first game design that I've been excited enough about to take this far in the design process. I'm just so happy right now because everyone genuinely loved it (and made excellent suggestions for improvement) and there is like no better validation than someone enjoying something you created. :) :) :)

By the way, the game is called Apprentice and I'm hoping to run it as a forum game after I get a bit more playtesting in. Hopefully within a couple weeks!

Congrats! The next hurdle is getting people who don't care about your emotional well-being to tell you they like it. That's a bigger challenge generally. :)

Wait he said he already playtested it with his gaming group.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 01, 2014, 08:19:46 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Relevant: http://m.today.com/food/we-tried-doritos-loaded-its-drunk-food-our-dreams-1D79873867
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 01, 2014, 10:02:06 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Relevant: http://m.today.com/food/we-tried-doritos-loaded-its-drunk-food-our-dreams-1D79873867

Well, I didn't need to keep dinner in anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 01, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Relevant: http://m.today.com/food/we-tried-doritos-loaded-its-drunk-food-our-dreams-1D79873867

Well, I didn't need to keep dinner in anyway.

I'm going to take this to mean you're taking your whole family out to 7-11 for dinner tomorrow!  ;D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 01, 2014, 10:33:29 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Relevant: http://m.today.com/food/we-tried-doritos-loaded-its-drunk-food-our-dreams-1D79873867

Well, I didn't need to keep dinner in anyway.

I'm going to take this to mean you're taking your whole family out to 7-11 for dinner tomorrow!  ;D

7-11 food in Japan is serious business.  It's one of the best lunch spots in the land.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 01, 2014, 10:41:01 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Relevant: http://m.today.com/food/we-tried-doritos-loaded-its-drunk-food-our-dreams-1D79873867

For the last year or so, whenever I order pizza I usually order a custom pizza from Panago.  I get mostly the same thing (varying the sauce and sometimes various meats) but the most important thing is that I get feta cheese instead of the usual (mozzarella, I think).  Feta cheese on pizza looks disgusting, but it tastes SO good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 01, 2014, 11:12:45 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Relevant: http://m.today.com/food/we-tried-doritos-loaded-its-drunk-food-our-dreams-1D79873867

For the last year or so, whenever I order pizza I usually order a custom pizza from Panago.  I get mostly the same thing (varying the sauce and sometimes various meats) but the most important thing is that I get feta cheese instead of the usual (mozzarella, I think).  Feta cheese on pizza looks disgusting, but it tastes SO good.

Yes, alternative cheeses are great on pizza, but I have to disagree with you a bit.  You need the base of mozzarella cheese, and then goat cheese as well.  I am not a huge fan of feta, but goat cheese makes anything better.  (Especially the quesadillas that make.  I use a base of either monterey jack or colby-jack cheese, add portobello mushrooms, chicken, and some goat cheese.  Peppers and onions are added by request even though I don't personally like them)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 01, 2014, 11:14:10 pm
f.ds pizza party.  Make it so.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 01, 2014, 11:25:47 pm
Nom nom nom now I just want pizza and quesadillas with delicious fancy cheeses. I am having homemade pizza at a dinner party tomorrow, so perhaps the carbivore in me can wait.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 01, 2014, 11:33:50 pm
I have a major weakness for food other people think looks disgusting.

Relevant: http://m.today.com/food/we-tried-doritos-loaded-its-drunk-food-our-dreams-1D79873867

For the last year or so, whenever I order pizza I usually order a custom pizza from Panago.  I get mostly the same thing (varying the sauce and sometimes various meats) but the most important thing is that I get feta cheese instead of the usual (mozzarella, I think).  Feta cheese on pizza looks disgusting, but it tastes SO good.

Yes, alternative cheeses are great on pizza, but I have to disagree with you a bit.  You need the base of mozzarella cheese, and then goat cheese as well.  I am not a huge fan of feta, but goat cheese makes anything better.  (Especially the quesadillas that make.  I use a base of either monterey jack or colby-jack cheese, add portobello mushrooms, chicken, and some goat cheese.  Peppers and onions are added by request even though I don't personally like them)

I really love feta, but I could maybe try that once.  Goat cheese is an option at Panago.

For the record, my complete custom pizza order is:

- feta cheese
- whatever sauce I'm in the mood for (usually 1 of: jalapeno white; chipotle cilantro; cheezy cheddar; sweet+smoky tropical)
- extra mushrooms
- tomatoes
- roasted garlic
- grilled chicken (cajun chicken if available)
- canadian ham
- potentially other meats (often spicy italian sausage)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 01, 2014, 11:52:40 pm
Feta cheese on pizza looks disgusting, but it tastes SO good disgusting.

FTFY.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 02, 2014, 12:04:05 am
I really love feta, but I could maybe try that once.  Goat cheese is an option at Panago.

For the record, my complete custom pizza order is:

- feta cheese
- whatever sauce I'm in the mood for (usually 1 of: jalapeno white; chipotle cilantro; cheezy cheddar; sweet+smoky tropical)
- extra mushrooms
- tomatoes
- roasted garlic
- grilled chicken (cajun chicken if available)
- canadian ham
- potentially other meats (often spicy italian sausage)

I'm not convinced this is your "complete" pizza order.

You list "extra mushrooms" as a topping, but never list "mushrooms."  How can you get extra if you don't have it to begin with?

+9001 for roasted garlic, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 02, 2014, 12:42:54 am
I really love feta, but I could maybe try that once.  Goat cheese is an option at Panago.

For the record, my complete custom pizza order is:

- feta cheese
- whatever sauce I'm in the mood for (usually 1 of: jalapeno white; chipotle cilantro; cheezy cheddar; sweet+smoky tropical)
- extra mushrooms
- tomatoes
- roasted garlic
- grilled chicken (cajun chicken if available)
- canadian ham
- potentially other meats (often spicy italian sausage)

I'm not convinced this is your "complete" pizza order.

You list "extra mushrooms" as a topping, but never list "mushrooms."  How can you get extra if you don't have it to begin with?

+9001 for roasted garlic, though.

extra mushrooms implies base mushrooms!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 02, 2014, 02:48:48 am
Book 2 was great because Toph (and, OK, also Azula) and Book 3 just gets increasingly more epic as you approach the end.

I think Book 2 is my favorite. It has Tales of Ba Sing Se and Appa's Lost days. Two episodes that I don't like that much. Aside from that it has Toph, Azula, interesting (although pretty slow) development of Zuko, less explaining than Book 1 (I don't think the exposition episodes in Book 1 are that enjoyable to rewatch), and more Iroh than Book 3.

Book 3 suffers from a bit too much hardships for the characters (in my opinion) and the story progressing at a very slow pace. But aside from those two points, it's a stellar season and it's still very much enjoyable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 02, 2014, 03:30:17 am
Book 2 was great because Toph (and, OK, also Azula) and Book 3 just gets increasingly more epic as you approach the end.

I think Book 2 is my favorite. It has Tales of Ba Sing Se and Appa's Lost days. Two episodes that I don't like that much. Aside from that it has Toph, Azula, interesting (although pretty slow) development of Zuko, less explaining than Book 1 (I don't think the exposition episodes in Book 1 are that enjoyable to rewatch), and more Iroh than Book 3.

Book 3 suffers from a bit too much hardships for the characters (in my opinion) and the story progressing at a very slow pace. But aside from those two points, it's a stellar season and it's still very much enjoyable.

Wait, are you just rewatching everything?

Book 3 has some of my favourite episodes.  The 4 finale episodes are spectacular, of course, but there are also the various Zuko field trips.  I also really like The Puppetmaster and the episode with the Roku backstory.  Oh, and the space sword!

First book of Korra was decent but the end was really abrupt.

Second book got kind of crazy at the end.  Not necessarily in a bad way, but in a weird way.  Backstory for Wan was probably the best thing in that book.  The primary two things that felt weird to me were spirit world info doesn't feel the same as it did in ATLA, though the info in ATLA was so sparse that I can't say that there are actual contradictions.  It just wasn't what I'd been expecting; and waterbending's ability to calm spirits seems to come out of nowhere... why is waterbending so special now, when airbenders have always been called the most spiritual of the four nations?

But the third book feels best so far because the gang is travelling to new (and old!) locations, giving us that grander sense of exploration (note: this is barely a spoiler).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 02, 2014, 06:57:03 am
I have a slice of cake in my profile! (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/cake.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 02, 2014, 07:43:16 am
Wait, are you just rewatching everything?

Yup. :)


Book 3 has some of my favourite episodes.  The 4 finale episodes are spectacular, of course, but there are also the various Zuko field trips.  I also really like The Puppetmaster and the episode with the Roku backstory.  Oh, and the space sword!

Don't forget Ember Island Players. Probably my favorite episode of the whole series.
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First book of Korra was decent but the end was really abrupt.

I feel like all the plot lines are really rushed through. There's not much time to stop and think about pretty much anything. To me it feels like they had to cut down on side stuff in order to keep the whole main plot. But I guess it's not that easy with that much shorter season.

Second book got kind of crazy at the end.  Not necessarily in a bad way, but in a weird way.  Backstory for Wan was probably the best thing in that book.  The primary two things that felt weird to me were spirit world info doesn't feel the same as it did in ATLA, though the info in ATLA was so sparse that I can't say that there are actual contradictions.  It just wasn't what I'd been expecting; and waterbending's ability to calm spirits seems to come out of nowhere... why is waterbending so special now, when airbenders have always been called the most spiritual of the four nations?

While some parts of AtLA felt overly expositioned, I feel like Book 2 of Korra was not explained enough. I didn't really like the whole Bolin becomes a movie star plot line, I think the rest of the book was very entertaining.

But the third book feels best so far because the gang is travelling to new (and old!) locations, giving us that grander sense of exploration (note: this is barely a spoiler).

Haven't seen anything of this yet, so I can't comment on it.

There are two things that I think AtLA did much better than Korra have done so far. The first is that AtLA had this epic story that started in the into of the first episode and ended in the end of the last. It felt like a single series. Not three separate seasons. Korra has a very definitive season 1 and season 2.

The second thing is that the characters in Korra aren't as appealing to me as the ones in AtLA. Mako and Bolin are nowhere as interesting as Katara and Sokka. There is absolutely no substitute for Toph, and the villains in Book 1 and 2 of Korra is nowhere on the level of Zuko/Azula/Ozai.

@Awaclus: Happy Birthday?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 02, 2014, 07:51:27 am
@Awaclus: Happy Birthday?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 02, 2014, 08:25:55 am
I just watched ATLA and korra for the first time in the last month and I agree with pretty much everything lekkit is saying. Korra does feel super rushed. I didn't really like book 2 of korra except for the first avatar back story.  And I really liked book 1 of korra, even if I didn't like the characters as much because it brought up really good bender/non-bender conflicts I hadn't really thought of before. I think they should have run with that more in book 2,they just kinda dropped it like oh Aman was a bender so that makes everything he said wrong so I'm ok with my neighbor being able to oppress me with superpowers. The fact that he was defeated doesn't make his ideas disappear or his followers...

Regarding differences in spirit world, in AtLA, the spirit world and the physical ran side by side. Aang left his body and tried to interact with kotara and people but he couldn't. Certainly different from book 2 of korra
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on July 02, 2014, 09:50:50 am
I have a slice of cake in my profile! (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/cake.png)

Happy birthday, and also, wow, my forum does this?  Cool!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on July 02, 2014, 10:24:14 am
theory didn't know this happened?  Are the forums becoming sentient?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 02, 2014, 11:20:43 am
theory didn't know this happened?  Are the forums becoming sentient?

Soon it'll be Skynet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on July 02, 2014, 03:18:10 pm
I have a slice of cake in my profile! (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/cake.png)

[double checks to make sure birthday is not listed in profile]

[feels a little bad profile lists so little information]

[changes gender from blank to male]
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 02, 2014, 05:52:57 pm
My dad and I were discussing things today, about the Olympics, and he suggested I should check the page for the athletes Tuvalu sent. So I have to wonder, Ozle, are you secretly my dad? Am I secretly half Tuvaluan?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 02, 2014, 06:59:29 pm
My dad and I were discussing things today, about the Olympics, and he suggested I should check the page for the athletes Tuvalu sent. So I have to wonder, Ozle, are you secretly my dad? Am I secretly half Tuvaluan?

No, Tables... I am your father!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 02, 2014, 10:12:01 pm
I'd rather shop at JCPenney than shop at Hobby Lobby:

http://www.moonmontchronicle.com/supreme-court-rules-jcpenney-allowed-to-sacrifice-employees-to-appease-cthulhu.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 03, 2014, 01:33:41 am
My dad and I were discussing things today, about the Olympics, and he suggested I should check the page for the athletes Tuvalu sent. So I have to wonder, Ozle, are you secretly my dad? Am I secretly half Tuvaluan?

No, Tables... I am your father!

Are you a tree?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on July 03, 2014, 02:17:57 am
I wrote a little program which is supposed to make associations based on a linguistic database of English. It seems to work reasonably well. But surprisingly, some of the top associations for a wide variety of words include 'angstrom', 'Oregon', and 'rich person'.

Now this may be an artifact of the program. But I'm not discounting the possibility that this is the answer. Angstroms, Oregon, and rich people -- the common thread that ties together the entirety of the human experience.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on July 03, 2014, 02:29:30 am
Watched the new LoK episodes.  And I also went and watched the leaked episode 4-6 (in Spanish only, but with subtitles).  I think this is the best season yet, and the story is as compelling as anything in ATLA.  The Big Bad is very interesting despite how little has been revealed of him, and the overall concept for the group of villains is something I've wanted for a long time.  Awesome, awesome stuff.

Glad to hear. I finished AtLA Book 2 yesterday. So I still have four books to go before I get to the new episodes.
At first I didn't understand what you guys were talking about. But yeah, I watched the commercial for the next season and it looks really good. Personally, I was a little dissapointed with Season 2 of LoK. I feel like they may have taken things a little far. Still good though.
And it's nice to hear from the creator himself that this next season will be more like the Original.

Better stop here, otherwise it won't be random I guess.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 03, 2014, 01:15:41 pm
My dad and I were discussing things today, about the Olympics, and he suggested I should check the page for the athletes Tuvalu sent. So I have to wonder, Ozle, are you secretly my dad? Am I secretly half Tuvaluan?

No, Tables... I am your father!

Are you a tree?

Well, Tables is short for "I eat Tables", which would make me... a beaver?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 03, 2014, 05:56:21 pm
My dad and I were discussing things today, about the Olympics, and he suggested I should check the page for the athletes Tuvalu sent. So I have to wonder, Ozle, are you secretly my dad? Am I secretly half Tuvaluan?

No, Tables... I am your father!

Are you a tree?

Well, Tables is short for "I eat Tables", which would make me... a beaver?

Not any more. There only websites I still use I Eat Tables on are ones that don't allow me to change my username on and I've been on for too long to make a new account.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 03, 2014, 06:06:08 pm
My dad and I were discussing things today, about the Olympics, and he suggested I should check the page for the athletes Tuvalu sent. So I have to wonder, Ozle, are you secretly my dad? Am I secretly half Tuvaluan?

No, Tables... I am your father!

Are you a tree?

Well, Tables is short for "I eat Tables", which would make me... a beaver?

Not any more. There only websites I still use I Eat Tables on are ones that don't allow me to change my username on and I've been on for too long to make a new account.

...But that is false:

So long story short, on a holiday to Germany while 11, my and my siblings thought it was hilarious to say nonsensical german phrases to the natives. A particular favourite was "Ich esse Tisch," german for "I eat tables". A few months later, I was creating an account for a new website (Runescape IIRC) and didn't want to use my old username (because it was even more terrible), so decided I Eat Tables was amusing enough to start using. Fast forward to when I was about 18, and I shortened it to just Tables because it's generally nicer, it was what people who knew me from online were calling me anyway, and it was a bit less of an embarrassing 11 year olds screenname.

so decided I Eat Tables was amusing enough to start using. Fast forward to when I was about 18, and I shortened it to just Tables because it's generally nicer,

I shortened it to just Tables

QED.

EDIT: not exactly sure why I am defending that I am a beaver. Beavers are cool?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 04, 2014, 02:22:22 am
I think you're misinterpreting the word 'shortened' there. It doesn't mean 'this is the shorter version of the full name', it means 'this is the name I've changed to'. Besides, that post was well over a year ago.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 04, 2014, 08:58:04 am
EDIT: not exactly sure why I am defending that I am a beaver. Beavers are cool?

yeah, beavers are cool so you are good
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 05, 2014, 09:25:46 am
My respect/post ratio is now 1!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on July 05, 2014, 11:45:21 am
Currently seeing 2652/2653 with your post at +2, so somebody has it in for you.

Unless you were talking about dipping below 1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 05, 2014, 11:53:38 am
Can someone create the 1:1 post to respect ratio thread already?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 05, 2014, 12:01:49 pm
Can someone create the 1:1 post to respect ratio thread already?

You should, because then you'll be 1:1 ratio on posts to respect.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 05, 2014, 12:21:18 pm
Can someone create the 1:1 post to respect ratio thread already?
I think we also need a 1:1 post to respect ratio [Serious] thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 05, 2014, 12:23:20 pm
Can someone create the 1:1 post to respect ratio thread already?
I think we also need a 1:1 post to respect ratio [Serious] thread.

quit posting.  I just +1ed your earlier post to keep you at that ratio.  Now I need to +1 this post.  just create an Awaclus [not 1:1 post to respect ratio] alt account for other posts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 05, 2014, 06:57:11 pm
I wouldn't mind being at 1:1. It would only take 333 users to get me there, and that's only like twelve and a half percent of the forum users. Easy. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 05, 2014, 07:02:24 pm
I wouldn't mind being at 1:1. It would only take 333 users to get me there, and that's only like twelve and a half percent of the forum users. Easy. :P

...no, if 333 posts of yours got upvoted, you would get to 1:1.  If you managed to convince one user to upvote all of your posts you would get more than 1:1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 05, 2014, 07:06:07 pm
Well I meant 333 users upvoting that post, but I guess I wasn't clear. Anyway, now it's 334, which is really not nearly as nice of a number.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 05, 2014, 07:38:04 pm
I wouldn't mind being at 1:1. It would only take 333 users to get me there, and that's only like twelve and a half percent of the forum users. Easy. :P
I remember having "trouble" staying over 0.5 when I had that many posts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 06, 2014, 03:49:24 pm
The more users there are, the easier it is to have a high R:P ratio.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 06, 2014, 05:55:02 pm
Let's talk about something more interesting, AKA anything else. Oh, how about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoT66v4EHg
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 06, 2014, 06:44:00 pm
can someone explain me why the lose track rule is called lose track rule? if you throne a madman, the throne doesn't lose track of the madman, it plays him twice, it's just that the second time he gets played nothing happens, because he isn't being returned to the madman pile. what's that to do with losing track of it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on July 06, 2014, 06:54:32 pm
That isn't an example of the lose track rule, if I remember how it works correctly. However, I'm not sure I understand it correctly either, so I can't explain it to you. I think I've just memorized what interactions work and which don't...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 06, 2014, 06:59:07 pm
what about when you procession and island, you set aside 2 cards and gain a card costing 5$ but the island isn't trashed, is that an example of the lose track rule? if so, it I still don't get it, because it just means that exiled cards can't be trashed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on July 06, 2014, 07:01:41 pm
Ahh, yes, I think that is. The procession plays the island twice, because it doesn't need to know where it is to do that. However, when it goes to trash the island, it can't find it. Even though it couldn't trash the island, it still executes the rest of the card, and so gains a card costing 5. The procession can't find the island because it lost track of it when it was set aside.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 06, 2014, 07:25:15 pm
Ahh, yes, I think that is. The procession plays the island twice, because it doesn't need to know where it is to do that. However, when it goes to trash the island, it can't find it. Even though it couldn't trash the island, it still executes the rest of the card, and so gains a card costing 5. The procession can't find the island because it lost track of it when it was set aside.
well than that's just a fancy way to say "exiled cards stay exiled." If that's really what the lose track rule means, then why are so many people making fuss over how complicated it is?  ???
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on July 06, 2014, 07:38:32 pm
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1567.0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 06, 2014, 07:45:09 pm
Lose track rule is also involved with, say, inn getting reshuffled into your deck. You can't use watchtower to put inn on top of your deck afterwards (of course, you can choose not to shuffle the inn into your deck in the first place, since you get to choose the order "on gain" effects trigger). Maybe someone else can find a better example.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 06, 2014, 07:59:27 pm
That isn't an example of the lose track rule, if I remember how it works correctly. However, I'm not sure I understand it correctly either, so I can't explain it to you. I think I've just memorized what interactions work and which don't...
Let's nitpick a bit, shouldn't it be, though? The lose track rule applies when card A attempts to move card B from location X to location Y, but card B isn't in location X. Playing a card means moving it to the play area and doing what it says on the card. Whenever you Throne a Madman, the first time you play it, you return it to the Supply and everything works just fine. Then, Throne expects it to be in play but it isn't there, so it loses track of it, so it isn't moved to the play area. Then you get the +actions, but can't return it to the Supply again, because it's already there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 06, 2014, 08:11:46 pm
That isn't an example of the lose track rule, if I remember how it works correctly. However, I'm not sure I understand it correctly either, so I can't explain it to you. I think I've just memorized what interactions work and which don't...
Let's nitpick a bit, shouldn't it be, though? The lose track rule applies when card A attempts to move card B from location X to location Y, but card B isn't in location X. Playing a card means moving it to the play area and doing what it says on the card. Whenever you Throne a Madman, the first time you play it, you return it to the Supply and everything works just fine. Then, Throne expects it to be in play but it isn't there, so it loses track of it, so it isn't moved to the play area. Then you get the +actions, but can't return it to the Supply again, because it's already there.

Let's nitpick even more: you can only move a card from location X to location Y if X and Y are different locations, so throne room doesn't try to move cards to the play area when it plays the card for the second time, since the card should already be there. However, I agree that madman still fails to return to the supply on second play, since it's already there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 06, 2014, 08:15:41 pm
That isn't an example of the lose track rule, if I remember how it works correctly. However, I'm not sure I understand it correctly either, so I can't explain it to you. I think I've just memorized what interactions work and which don't...
Let's nitpick a bit, shouldn't it be, though? The lose track rule applies when card A attempts to move card B from location X to location Y, but card B isn't in location X. Playing a card means moving it to the play area and doing what it says on the card. Whenever you Throne a Madman, the first time you play it, you return it to the Supply and everything works just fine. Then, Throne expects it to be in play but it isn't there, so it loses track of it, so it isn't moved to the play area. Then you get the +actions, but can't return it to the Supply again, because it's already there.

Let's nitpick even more: you can only move a card from location X to location Y if X and Y are different locations, so throne room doesn't try to move cards to the play area when it plays the card for the second time, since the card should already be there. However, I agree that madman still fails to return to the supply on second play, since it's already there.

Let's nitpick just a bit more: Madman never returns to the supply, it returns to the Madman pile. Madman can never return to the supply because it wasn't in the supply in the first place.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 06, 2014, 08:21:47 pm
That isn't an example of the lose track rule, if I remember how it works correctly. However, I'm not sure I understand it correctly either, so I can't explain it to you. I think I've just memorized what interactions work and which don't...
Let's nitpick a bit, shouldn't it be, though? The lose track rule applies when card A attempts to move card B from location X to location Y, but card B isn't in location X. Playing a card means moving it to the play area and doing what it says on the card. Whenever you Throne a Madman, the first time you play it, you return it to the Supply and everything works just fine. Then, Throne expects it to be in play but it isn't there, so it loses track of it, so it isn't moved to the play area. Then you get the +actions, but can't return it to the Supply again, because it's already there.

Let's nitpick even more: you can only move a card from location X to location Y if X and Y are different locations, so throne room doesn't try to move cards to the play area when it plays the card for the second time, since the card should already be there. However, I agree that madman still fails to return to the supply on second play, since it's already there.

Let's nitpick just a bit more: Madman never returns to the supply, it returns to the Madman pile. Madman can never return to the supply because it wasn't in the supply in the first place.

Let's nitpick just a tiny bit more:  why are we discussing Dominion in the Random Stuff thread?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 06, 2014, 08:25:54 pm
That isn't an example of the lose track rule, if I remember how it works correctly. However, I'm not sure I understand it correctly either, so I can't explain it to you. I think I've just memorized what interactions work and which don't...
Let's nitpick a bit, shouldn't it be, though? The lose track rule applies when card A attempts to move card B from location X to location Y, but card B isn't in location X. Playing a card means moving it to the play area and doing what it says on the card. Whenever you Throne a Madman, the first time you play it, you return it to the Supply and everything works just fine. Then, Throne expects it to be in play but it isn't there, so it loses track of it, so it isn't moved to the play area. Then you get the +actions, but can't return it to the Supply again, because it's already there.

Let's nitpick even more: you can only move a card from location X to location Y if X and Y are different locations, so throne room doesn't try to move cards to the play area when it plays the card for the second time, since the card should already be there. However, I agree that madman still fails to return to the supply on second play, since it's already there.

Let's nitpick just a bit more: Madman never returns to the supply, it returns to the Madman pile. Madman can never return to the supply because it wasn't in the supply in the first place.

Let's nitpick just a tiny bit more:  why are we discussing Dominion in the Random Stuff thread?

well i felt that asking about the lost track rule out of nowhere was pretty random and therefore justified.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 06, 2014, 08:34:38 pm
Let's talk about something more interesting, AKA anything else. Oh, how about this?

I just watched this.  It was amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 06, 2014, 09:20:17 pm
Let's nitpick even more: you can only move a card from location X to location Y if X and Y are different locations, so throne room doesn't try to move cards to the play area when it plays the card for the second time, since the card should already be there. However, I agree that madman still fails to return to the supply on second play, since it's already there.
Throne Room always tries to move cards to the play area, but it just always fails. Normally, it fails because the card is already there, but in Madman's case, it fails because of the lose track rule. Or does Throne Room know that the attempt would be pointless anyway since X = Y, therefore it gives up without even trying to put it into play, even when X != Y?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 07, 2014, 01:58:36 am
On another note, I decided, on a whim, to read Finnegans Wake, and the following sentence just came up:

"Whatif she be in flags or flitters, reekierags or sundyechosies, with a mint of mines or beggar a pinnyweight."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 07, 2014, 08:44:19 am
After finally watching the final episode of the incredibly long 7 seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I have moved on to other geekgasm shows that I missed the first time around. I have started watching the new Battlestar Galactica.

I have to say that the first few episodes are quite engaging and enjoyable. They're really laying thick the war-is-hell theme what with all the helpless people getting killed.

Also, it surprised me that they revealed the hidden Cylon so early. I was expecting one of those mysterious whodunit subplots where the big reveal is a plot twist. Nope, here is the Cylon at the end of episode 2 (or was it 3?). Since I was used to the unknown-traitor subplot, I found this to be a bit jarring at first but refreshing. Not every story needs to have artificial drama tacked on with a mysterious saboteur. And seeing how the story is progressing on the planet, I can see why it was necessary to have the Cylon's identity be revealed. Besides, it adds a different artificial drama when the audience knows who the Cylon is while the cast doesn't.

Thanks to signatures on here with the BSG game, I knew a couple of characters are mains, but that's not a huge spoiler. And just because they're important early on doesn't mean they can't die or be Cyloned or whatever.

Looking forward to finishing this one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 07, 2014, 08:47:37 am
I was disappointed with the lack of Buffy related stuff in the last post...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 07, 2014, 09:38:10 am
After finally watching the final episode of the incredibly long 7 seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I have moved on to other geekgasm shows that I missed the first time around. I have started watching the new Battlestar Galactica.

I have to say that the first few episodes are quite engaging and enjoyable. They're really laying thick the war-is-hell theme what with all the helpless people getting killed.

Also, it surprised me that they revealed the hidden Cylon so early. I was expecting one of those mysterious whodunit subplots where the big reveal is a plot twist. Nope, here is the Cylon at the end of episode 2 (or was it 3?). Since I was used to the unknown-traitor subplot, I found this to be a bit jarring at first but refreshing. Not every story needs to have artificial drama tacked on with a mysterious saboteur. And seeing how the story is progressing on the planet, I can see why it was necessary to have the Cylon's identity be revealed. Besides, it adds a different artificial drama when the audience knows who the Cylon is while the cast doesn't.

Thanks to signatures on here with the BSG game, I knew a couple of characters are mains, but that's not a huge spoiler. And just because they're important early on doesn't mean they can't die or be Cyloned or whatever.

Looking forward to finishing this one.

I watched it all over Christmas time last year.  I thought it was fantastic.  Some people don't like the direction the fourth and fifth season went, but I was happy with everything.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 07, 2014, 11:14:14 am
I was disappointed with the lack of Buffy related stuff in the last post...

I'm all Buffyed out. I could start up Angel now that I'm done with Buffy, but I'm so tired of that show now. This wouldn't have happened if I followed it on a weekly basis rather than watch the episodes in a marathon. At approximately 22 episodes per season, that's a shit-ton of episodes to get through.

And while I love Whedon's writing style, it did get a bit tedious when it seemed like every character on the show spoke with the same whimsy. I did not see so much of this in his later works like Dollhouse and the Avengers, but I could even pick up a little bit of that redundancy in Firefly. Since Angel aired around the same time as Buffy, I fear I'm going to get saturated with even more Whedonisms, and I just need a break. BSG is considerably different in mood and style, and I'm basking in that difference right now.

However, being late to the Buffy party, it was interesting to see some of the same actors in other Whedon projects, notably Echo and Mal. But that's not too surprising. Directors have their favorite actors. Raimi and Burton come to mind quite easily.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 07, 2014, 11:51:57 am
That isn't an example of the lose track rule, if I remember how it works correctly. However, I'm not sure I understand it correctly either, so I can't explain it to you. I think I've just memorized what interactions work and which don't...
Let's nitpick a bit, shouldn't it be, though? The lose track rule applies when card A attempts to move card B from location X to location Y, but card B isn't in location X. Playing a card means moving it to the play area and doing what it says on the card. Whenever you Throne a Madman, the first time you play it, you return it to the Supply and everything works just fine. Then, Throne expects it to be in play but it isn't there, so it loses track of it, so it isn't moved to the play area. Then you get the +actions, but can't return it to the Supply again, because it's already there.

Let's nitpick even more: you can only move a card from location X to location Y if X and Y are different locations, so throne room doesn't try to move cards to the play area when it plays the card for the second time, since the card should already be there. However, I agree that madman still fails to return to the supply on second play, since it's already there.

All this talk of X and Y made me want to check serebii.net for Pokémon news. The Pokémon of the Week is Golduck! Woo!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 07, 2014, 01:46:06 pm
Just finished Breaking Bad. Wow, what a crazy show. Extremely well done IMO. And Bryan Cranston is an amazing actor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 07, 2014, 02:43:57 pm
Orphan Black
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 07, 2014, 02:47:16 pm
Orphan Black

Yes! Just started it about a week ago, am on Season 2 now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on July 07, 2014, 02:50:14 pm
Rectify. It's first season was better than Breaking Bad's last.

These shows have nothing in common though, so bear in mind that what I just said basically means nothing. But it's really good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 07, 2014, 07:19:22 pm
I was disappointed with the lack of Buffy related stuff in the last post...

I'm all Buffyed out. I could start up Angel now that I'm done with Buffy, but I'm so tired of that show now. This wouldn't have happened if I followed it on a weekly basis rather than watch the episodes in a marathon. At approximately 22 episodes per season, that's a shit-ton of episodes to get through.

And while I love Whedon's writing style, it did get a bit tedious when it seemed like every character on the show spoke with the same whimsy. I did not see so much of this in his later works like Dollhouse and the Avengers, but I could even pick up a little bit of that redundancy in Firefly. Since Angel aired around the same time as Buffy, I fear I'm going to get saturated with even more Whedonisms, and I just need a break. BSG is considerably different in mood and style, and I'm basking in that difference right now.

However, being late to the Buffy party, it was interesting to see some of the same actors in other Whedon projects, notably Echo and Mal. But that's not too surprising. Directors have their favorite actors. Raimi and Burton come to mind quite easily.

It was good to watch Angel in tandem with Buffy at the appropriate seasons.

I'm in the minority, in that I ended up preferring Angel to Buffy overall.  Probably because I preferred the Angel characters over Buffy's.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 07, 2014, 07:19:40 pm
As for shows to watch -- I feel like Justified doesn't get enough love.  That is a great show.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 08, 2014, 12:19:46 am
I need to stop playing GTA V before bed. I'm pretty sure Trevor is giving me nightmares.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 08, 2014, 12:41:04 am
Anyone for Fargo?  I've only seen episodes here and there, but it looks good.  My roommate watches Justified, and it looks good but I have to go back and start from the beginning.

Also, The Leftovers---I'm liking it a lot so far.
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Post by: Kuildeous on July 08, 2014, 01:43:48 am
It was good to watch Angel in tandem with Buffy at the appropriate seasons.

I'm in the minority, in that I ended up preferring Angel to Buffy overall.  Probably because I preferred the Angel characters over Buffy's.

I got the feeling while watching Buffy that they occasionally referred to events happening in Angel, so I missed out on that.

I'm kind of turned off by the notion of watching Angel, because he seems to me like what Edward from Twilight wants to be. I'm sure it's a silly reason. A break will do me good.
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Post by: ashersky on July 08, 2014, 01:54:41 am
It was good to watch Angel in tandem with Buffy at the appropriate seasons.

I'm in the minority, in that I ended up preferring Angel to Buffy overall.  Probably because I preferred the Angel characters over Buffy's.

I got the feeling while watching Buffy that they occasionally referred to events happening in Angel, so I missed out on that.

I'm kind of turned off by the notion of watching Angel, because he seems to me like what Edward from Twilight wants to be. I'm sure it's a silly reason. A break will do me good.

Angel always felt like the more modern show -- probably because it started later.  There were a lot of Serenity cameos in Angel, too.
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Post by: KingZog3 on July 08, 2014, 09:40:47 am
I need to stop playing GTA V before bed. I'm pretty sure Trevor is giving me nightmares.

7 dollars?!

I said something nice! Not expensive, nice. You don't want to be a greedy cow do ya?
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Post by: shraeye on July 08, 2014, 10:51:15 am
As for shows to watch -- I feel like Justified doesn't get enough love.  That is a great show.
seconded.

And Terriers...although there's only 1 season there.
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Post by: Teproc on July 08, 2014, 11:10:38 am
Anyone for Fargo?  I've only seen episodes here and there, but it looks good.  My roommate watches Justified, and it looks good but I have to go back and start from the beginning.

Also, The Leftovers---I'm liking it a lot so far.

Fargo is great. Allison Tollman is incredible.

The Leftovers... meh. I'm not liking it a whole lot, if the next episode isn't very good I'll probably drop it (and I hear it features more Christopher Eccleston, which, as a 9th Doctor fan, makes me very, very happy).
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Post by: Witherweaver on July 08, 2014, 11:13:32 am
Anyone for Fargo?  I've only seen episodes here and there, but it looks good.  My roommate watches Justified, and it looks good but I have to go back and start from the beginning.

Also, The Leftovers---I'm liking it a lot so far.

Fargo is great. Allison Tollman is incredible.

The Leftovers... meh. I'm not liking it a whole lot, if the next episode isn't very good I'll probably drop it (and I hear it features more Christopher Eccleston, which, as a 9th Doctor fan, makes me very, very happy).

From the previews it will be a  lot of him.. The Leftovers is my kind of show, I guess.. mysterious, unexplained, and focusing on diving into characters and what and why they do things.  Sort of like Twin Peaks (best TV show ever!).  And I like the way it's telling the story.
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Post by: Teproc on July 08, 2014, 11:18:24 am
I tend to like shows like The Leftovers as well, I just don't really like the writing so far, especially the whole hugging cult thing. Or everything with the dogs and the creepy dude from Fringe. Or the mayor. I'm very intrigued by the Guilty Remnant though, and I think the actress playing... whatever her name is, the main dude's wife is giving a great performance. The teenage girl storyline has had some cringe-worthy scenes (the iPhone game), but I like the dynamic between her and her friend.
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Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on July 08, 2014, 11:42:13 am
You guys watch American Horror Story? I just watched the first two seasons and I thought it was enjoyable
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Post by: Kuildeous on July 08, 2014, 12:40:25 pm
You guys watch American Horror Story? I just watched the first two seasons and I thought it was enjoyable

I enjoy the series. I love how they are doing a different story each season. More shows should adopt this. *cough Heroes*

I disliked the end of the first season because I walked away with a sense that I didn't really want to watch the storyline continue after that point. Of course, at the time, I didn't know that the story was over. I may have to rewatch the finale with the knowledge that the story isn't continuing. I might appreciate it more.

I liked the second season, though the alien stuff didn't strike me as too horrific. The real horror was in the institution. I also felt the demonic possession detracted from the horror of the institution, though the abuse of power was certainly there.

I enjoyed the third season, though it was less horror. It was a more engaging story, and there really were so few likable characters. Even the ones you think are okay at first turn out to have some dark side where they get all stabby. I believe the only character who was truly pure was the head of the coven and the daughter of Jessica Lange. I seem to recall that everything she did was for the greater good, and she didn't let anger guide her hand (though she would have been justified in a few instances).

I'm looking forward to the fourth season. Carnivals and creepiness. Aw yeah.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on July 08, 2014, 01:21:07 pm
I've found the best thing on the internet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery
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Post by: Teproc on July 08, 2014, 01:28:09 pm
If I had to take a guess, I would say this is a stunt to prove the dangers of Kickstarter and the gullibility (I doubt that's a word, but you see what I mean) of its fanatics, something that anyone who follows the board gaming industry would be familiar with...
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Post by: Watno on July 08, 2014, 01:34:56 pm
Umm, why is there a picture of something strange when the kickstarter is for potato salad?

This is what "Kartoffelsalat" looks like:
(http://static.chefkoch-cdn.de/ck.de/rezepte/3/3745/256739-960x720-schwaebischer-kartoffelsalat.jpg)
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Post by: jonts26 on July 08, 2014, 01:40:00 pm
Umm, why is there a picture of something strange when the kickstarter is for potato salad?

This is what "Kartoffelsalat" looks like:
...

If you read his FAQ he answers the question about what kind of potato salad he'll be making. He was unaware of the different types due to this being his first.
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Post by: Voltaire on July 08, 2014, 01:41:06 pm
And his picture looks like most potato salads I've encountered in the culinary wonder that is rural Midwestern US.

EDIT: As in, I grew up in the same area he says he's from.
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Post by: pacovf on July 08, 2014, 01:44:11 pm
I don't know what the frac that Kickstarter is supposed to mean. But now I'm hungry.
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Post by: jonts26 on July 08, 2014, 01:49:46 pm
I'm pretty sure it's just a parody of all of the truly terrible kickstarters out there. Or at least it started as one. I don't know what it is now. Other than incredible.
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Post by: Witherweaver on July 08, 2014, 01:52:25 pm
I could go for some pizza tonight... Gonna go start a campaign, come donate!
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Post by: Witherweaver on July 08, 2014, 02:28:04 pm
This belongs in this thread:

http://imgur.com/gallery/u4NJi
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Post by: Ozle on July 08, 2014, 03:18:16 pm
I just finished watching Series 2 to 5 of Warehouse 13
I feel cheap and dirty but I really enjoyed it
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Post by: pingpongsam on July 08, 2014, 03:20:59 pm
http://www.hdd-parts.com/13102656.html
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Post by: 2.71828..... on July 08, 2014, 03:51:57 pm
I've found the best thing on the internet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery

$52,796 raised from 4,062 backers right now.

Whats the over/under on where this thing eventually ends?  $100k?  $150k?
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Post by: SirPeebles on July 08, 2014, 03:56:26 pm
I could go for some pizza tonight... Gonna go start a campaign, come donate!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Random_Acts_Of_Pizza/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 08, 2014, 05:32:39 pm
I've found the best thing on the internet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery

That's going to be a lot of work, fulfilling the pledge promises.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on July 08, 2014, 05:41:16 pm
I've found the best thing on the internet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery

That's going to be a lot of work, fulfilling the pledge promises.

He can probably hire a team to take care of that for him.
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Post by: Polk5440 on July 08, 2014, 06:27:40 pm
I've found the best thing on the internet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery

That's going to be a lot of work, fulfilling the pledge promises.

He can probably hire a team to take care of that for him.

I love the FAQ and matter-of-fact description.

Of course with math like this: "I know $40 isn't 4x $10" and comments like: "If we hit $3000, the whole internet is invited!" I am guessing he doesn't quite understand that his promises could scale quite badly.

EDIT: He's in Columbus, and that picture is definitely what most "regular" potato salad looks like in Ohio. Vinegar only (non-mayo) potato salads are usually qualified as German potato salad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on July 08, 2014, 06:33:02 pm
I've found the best thing on the internet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad?ref=discovery

That's going to be a lot of work, fulfilling the pledge promises.

He can probably hire a team to take care of that for him.

I love the FAQ and matter-of-fact description.

Of course with math like this: "I know $40 isn't 4x $10" and comments like: "If we hit $3000, the whole internet is invited!" I am guessing he doesn't quite understand that his promises could scale quite badly.

EDIT: He's in Columbus, and that picture is definitely what most "regular" potato salad looks like in Ohio. Vinegar only (non-mayo) potato salads are usually qualified as German potato salad.

He's just a man who wanted to make some potato salad and found himself in way over his head.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 08, 2014, 06:47:08 pm
Anyone watched What's Up, Tigerlily??
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Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 08, 2014, 09:23:16 pm
Haven't played Mario Kart 8, I have no idea what cosplay means, but this is still hilarious:

http://kotaku.com/luigi-death-stare-cosplay-terrorizes-convention-1601933143?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
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Post by: sudgy on July 08, 2014, 09:28:26 pm
Has anybody played Kerbal Space Program?  I just got it several days ago.
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Post by: KingZog3 on July 08, 2014, 09:38:34 pm
Haven't played Mario Kart 8, I have no idea what cosplay means, but this is still hilarious:

http://kotaku.com/luigi-death-stare-cosplay-terrorizes-convention-1601933143?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

Cosplay is dressing up like characters from your favourite series. Essentially you feel a lot cooler than you look.

EDIT: And wow that was hilarious. Luigi don't give a damn.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on July 08, 2014, 10:20:17 pm
Has anybody played Kerbal Space Program?  I just got it several days ago.

We're gonna miss you on the forum the next few weeks.
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Post by: jonts26 on July 08, 2014, 10:21:10 pm
Haven't played Mario Kart 8, I have no idea what cosplay means, but this is still hilarious:

http://kotaku.com/luigi-death-stare-cosplay-terrorizes-convention-1601933143?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

Cosplay is dressing up like characters from your favourite series. Essentially you feel a lot cooler than you look.

EDIT: And wow that was hilarious. Luigi don't give a damn.

That cosplay is a reference to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxDuNFBVj8
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Post by: SirPeebles on July 08, 2014, 11:29:37 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GB_NDU43Q
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Post by: eHalcyon on July 08, 2014, 11:46:51 pm
At first I was like, "whaaaat, when was this and how did I miss it entirely?"  Took me a while...
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Post by: Ichimaru Gin on July 09, 2014, 01:18:13 am
Was just playing Team Fortress two and pretty sure Trogdor the Burninator was on my team (he had that exact name).
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Post by: Tables on July 09, 2014, 06:18:27 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GB_NDU43Q

It's weird. I recently came across this video (and the user). He's really good. He explained quite clearly why British tanks are the best in the world as well.
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Post by: Kuildeous on July 09, 2014, 08:30:21 am
Was just playing Team Fortress two and pretty sure Trogdor the Burninator was on my team (he had that exact name).

Man, Team Fortress and X-Com are probably the franchises I've spent the most time on. Almost literally decades. I haven't even played as much Zelda and Mario as these titles.

Team Fortress 2 was such a change, but it's a welcomed changed. While I miss lob grenades, the rest of the game made up for it. And, well, the spy's hallucinogenic gas grenade was pretty lame anyway.
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Post by: SirPeebles on July 10, 2014, 06:12:43 pm
An interesting discussion regarding Candy Box, Frog Fractions, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptk93AyICH0
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Post by: 2.71828..... on July 10, 2014, 07:48:56 pm
An interesting discussion regarding Candy Box, Frog Fractions, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptk93AyICH0

......and now I have an open tab with candy box running


thanks a bunch
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Post by: jonts26 on July 10, 2014, 08:50:02 pm
Frog Fractions is amazing. Go play it now before you even watch that video.

http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions
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Post by: silverspawn on July 10, 2014, 09:27:37 pm
Frog Fractions is amazing. Go play it now before you even watch that video.

http://twinbeard.com/frog-fractions
lol. it's really great. I love how you just do some random shit and get thrown into an entire new setting
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Post by: silverspawn on July 10, 2014, 09:28:52 pm
it's also hilarious how many commands they prepared in the captains quarters. i can write stuff like "kill myself" and it actually gives funny responses
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Post by: eHalcyon on July 11, 2014, 07:28:24 pm
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/03696436c83e9ad4038abf1f98022c72/tumblr_n8i0kww6RM1qe0wclo1_500.jpg)
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Post by: silverspawn on July 11, 2014, 09:52:21 pm
winter, the realm of eternal ice
snowfall and darkness descends upon the vales of time
distant caress of the suns fading light
the lands were painted white
with the winters might
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Post by: silverspawn on July 11, 2014, 09:55:08 pm
partyin, partyin, yeah
partyin, partyin, yeah
fun, fun, fun, fun
lookin forward to the weekend

yesterday was thursday, thursday
today it is friday, friday,
we, we, we so excited
we so excited
we gonna have a baaaaaaaaaaaaaal today

tomorrow it is saturday
and sunday comes afterwards!!
i dont want this weekend to eeeend
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Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 11, 2014, 10:13:25 pm
tomorrow it is saturday
and sunday comes afterwards!!
i dont want this weekend to eeeend

These lyrics make Paul McCartney jealous.
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Post by: jonts26 on July 11, 2014, 10:25:11 pm
tomorrow it is saturday
and sunday comes afterwards!!
i dont want this weekend to eeeend

These lyrics make Paul McCartney jealous.

Woke up, fell out of bed
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up I noticed I was late
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
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Post by: enfynet on July 12, 2014, 12:10:14 am
partyin, partyin, yeah
partyin, partyin, yeah
fun, fun, fun, fun
lookin forward to the weekend

yesterday was thursday, thursday
today it is friday, friday,
we, we, we so excited
we so excited
we gonna have a baaaaaaaaaaaaaal today

tomorrow it is saturday
and sunday comes afterwards!!
i dont want this weekend to eeeend
Working 5pm-1am
Working 5pm-1am
Working 5pm-1am

What's a weekend?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on July 12, 2014, 01:49:15 am
Eight days a weeeeeeeek!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 12, 2014, 09:18:05 am
tomorrow it is saturday
and sunday comes afterwards!!
i dont want this weekend to eeeend

These lyrics make Paul McCartney jealous.

Woke up, fell out of bed
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up I noticed I was late
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat

You make a very good point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on July 13, 2014, 03:02:49 am
After a long time away from playing the Touhou games, I tried Unidentified Fantastic Object.

I'm awful at it, died on Stage 3 on Normal. Abused continues to get to stage 5, but the continue system of forcing you back to the start of the stage means I can't beat it. I really like the UFO system though, it's neat.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 13, 2014, 04:51:16 pm
Guess who just climbed through the bathroom window because my girlfriend locked us out? This guy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 13, 2014, 05:25:04 pm
Guess who just climbed through the bathroom window because my girlfriend locked us out? This guy.

I have a vague memory of Grujah doing that a while ago too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 13, 2014, 06:00:51 pm
Donald X. just tipped me on BGG. I guess this counts as an achievement?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/16300615#16300615
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Post by: Donald X. on July 13, 2014, 07:35:28 pm
Donald X. just tipped me on BGG. I guess this counts as an achievement?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/16300615#16300615
I have decided to tip for people answering rules questions for me (if they get it right obv.). This was a tricky case because the other guy beat you but your answer was better and his post had a quoting error. In the end the thread-poster rounded you both out, hooray.
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Post by: Witherweaver on July 13, 2014, 07:37:31 pm
Sounds like an intense situation.
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Post by: ConMan on July 13, 2014, 07:45:23 pm
Guess who just climbed through the bathroom window because my girlfriend locked us out? This guy.
Were you protected by a silver spoon? (Especially given previous posts)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 13, 2014, 07:51:55 pm
Guess who just climbed through the bathroom window because my girlfriend locked us out? This guy.
DSHSB
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 13, 2014, 09:35:08 pm
Guess who just climbed through the bathroom window because my girlfriend locked us out? This guy.

You should have sent her instead, just so you could sing "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window" while she went in.
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Post by: heron on July 13, 2014, 10:49:57 pm
Fun fact: My cat's name is Scout.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 13, 2014, 11:03:47 pm
Fun fact: My cat's name is Scout.

Calling ASPCA and reporting you for animal cruelty.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on July 13, 2014, 11:17:36 pm
Fun fact: My cat's name is Scout.
My dog's name is Scout.

Totes serious. We got it from the pound and it's name was Fritz, but my sister wanted to change it to Scout (she doesn't play Dominion). It was kind of expensive and ended up doing more harm than help, so Scout's an appropriate name.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 13, 2014, 11:28:56 pm
Guess who just climbed through the bathroom window because my girlfriend locked us out? This guy.

You should have sent her instead, just so you could sing "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window" while she went in.

Remember in Lost when Jack is trapped in the cave and Charlie was the only one that could fit through the hole to save Jack? Yeah. It was like that.

Fun fact: My cat's name is Scout.
My dog's name is Scout.

Totes serious. We got it from the pound and it's name was Fritz, but my sister wanted to change it to Scout (she doesn't play Dominion). It was kind of expensive and ended up doing more harm than help, so Scout's an appropriate name.

Fritz is a much better name.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 13, 2014, 11:48:10 pm
Fun fact: My cat's name is Scout.
My dog's name is Scout.

Totes serious. We got it from the pound and it's name was Fritz, but my sister wanted to change it to Scout (she doesn't play Dominion). It was kind of expensive and ended up doing more harm than help, so Scout's an appropriate name.

If you are having trouble getting him to fetch, I'm pretty sure he can only retrieve green things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 14, 2014, 07:24:12 am
Fun fact: My cat's name is Scout.
My dog's name is Scout.

Totes serious. We got it from the pound and it's name was Fritz, but my sister wanted to change it to Scout (she doesn't play Dominion). It was kind of expensive and ended up doing more harm than help, so Scout's an appropriate name.

If you are having trouble getting him to fetch, I'm pretty sure he can only retrieve green things.

Pretty sure he can't even do that very well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on July 14, 2014, 07:33:50 am
Dude have you ever seen Fritz the Cat? I think it's on Netflix. It's like this crazy tripped out cartoon about a womanizing cat who does a lot of drugs and gets into hijinks
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 14, 2014, 08:57:02 am
Fun fact: My cat's name is Scout.

I bet that cat knows how to kill a mockingbird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 14, 2014, 09:02:49 am
Dogs named Scout?

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131230125548/parody/images/e/e8/Scout_and_Friends_Phonics_Farm.mp4_000046045.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 09:51:52 am
last night i dreamt of a girl i used to be in love with for years back in school, but haven't thought about much for over 5 years.

after i woke up, i got curious and looked if she's in facebook. she is. I wonder if I should create an account and send her a friend request...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 14, 2014, 09:54:36 am
last night i dreamt of a girl i used to be in love with for years back in school, but haven't thought about much for over 5 years.

after i woke up, i got curious and looked if she's in facebook. she is. I wonder if I should create an account and send her a friend request...

It would be strange if she were the only friend you add.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 14, 2014, 09:58:58 am
last night i dreamt of a girl i used to be in love with for years back in school, but haven't thought about much for over 5 years.

after i woke up, i got curious and looked if she's in facebook. she is. I wonder if I should create an account and send her a friend request...

Depends on whether or not either of you are single.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 10:06:30 am
Quote
It would be strange if she were the only friend you add.
haha yea it would be. but I don't use facebook, and I'm not going to start using it, it would just be for that cause

Quote
Depends on whether or not either of you are single.
eh, I don't think it makes a difference. it was a very much a once sided love back in school. but she's not anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 14, 2014, 10:42:28 am
eh, I don't think it makes a difference.

Tell that to your girlfriend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 10:46:58 am
Quote
It would be strange if she were the only friend you add.
haha yea it would be. but I don't use facebook, and I'm not going to start using it, it would just be for that cause

Quote
Depends on whether or not either of you are single.
eh, I don't think it makes a difference. it was a very much a once sided love back in school. but she's not anyway.

Well, you could create a facebook account, slowly fill it with friends, do a double pincer maneouvre around your common connaissances, send her a friend request when that's done, organize a get-together for all your old school classmates (profit from the 5 year milestone since you finished school/started college), and fortuitously meet her again over the event. The whole thing will look completely natural and not creepy at all, and you'll get another shot at winning her over!

Soon...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 14, 2014, 10:49:21 am
How about staying in the "I don't do facebook" club.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 11:13:40 am
Quote
The whole thing will look completely natural and not creepy at all, and you'll get another shot at winning her over!

but i dont want to win her over^^ it's been 5 years, I don't have any feelings towards her. I just thought that it would be sad if i never talked to her ever again
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 14, 2014, 11:14:11 am
How about staying in the "I don't do facebook" club.

Oh, I joined that group on FB.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 11:25:54 am
I think I'll just do it. it's not like i can lose anything, worst case I'll pretty much be at the same position I was before I had the dream

the dream was weird btw, she looked differently and I can't recall much of what happened. but after i thought i woke up, i went to my pc and did the exact same thing (google her). i found a weird site that was sort of a summery of what to do when looking for that girl, but before I could do much with it, I realized that that was a dream too and I woke up (not really though, just part of the dream). I think I repeated a similar process ~2 more times before I woke up for real. but I also recall that the window was closed in my dream, which is very unusual because I usually don't close it during the night, and when I woke up it was really closed.

dreams are awesome  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 14, 2014, 11:29:20 am
I think I'll just do it. it's not like i can lose anything, worst case I'll pretty much be at the same position I was before I had the dream

Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!

I feel obligated to inform you that from an outside, unbiased perspective, creating a Facebook account just to contact a girl you once had a crush on is VERY CREEPY. I strongly advise you not do it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 14, 2014, 11:30:24 am
Sounds like inception. You should have checked for your secret totem that everyone know about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 11:37:28 am
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I feel obligated to inform you that from an outside, unbiased perspective, creating a Facebook account just to contact a girl you once had a crush on is VERY CREEPY. I strongly advise you not do it.
aww really? but that's the only way to contact her... I just want to talk a little bit about the old days, it's the only way to do it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 11:42:51 am
Be sure to tell her you've been thinking about her since school and created an account just to see if she had one and used to dream about her and write in your notebook every night and...

Seriously though, maybe just create an account to get in touch with friends in general.  It's not that bad, somewhat useful, and can be ignored if needed.  You may find you want to get in contact with other people from your past, not just her.. and no harm if you're connecting with old friends and she is one of them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 14, 2014, 11:44:21 am
aww really? but that's the only way to contact her... I just want to talk a little bit about the old days, it's the only way to do it.

Man, I get that. Or at least I think I do. And I'm not trying to rain on your parade. I'm just telling you—as a friend—how it looks to me. I'm calling it like I see it. It seems to me that you're hoping this will go somewhere beyond friendship. If you had her phone number, then that would be one thing. You could give her a call and see if she wants to talk. But buying a phone just so you can give her a call would be strange, and I think she'll perceive creating a Facebook account just to contact her as strange. If she notices, that is. 

Maybe I'm way off base and this isn't as horrible an idea as it seems. It just worries me, is all. Anybody else want to weigh in on this?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 11:45:28 am
First of all, please don't post pictures of people on the internet without their consent. Yes, she's cute. No, she probably doesn't want to be ogled at by a forum of people she doesn't know. Please remove it.

Second of all, she is going to notice that you created a facebook account just to talk with her. Depending on how close you were to each other, she will feel somewhere between surprised, annoyed, and seriously creeped out. Because it's a stalkerish thing to do.

Third of all, yes you are hoping this will go somewhere. Otherwise you wouldn't say "it's still the kind of look that I find attractive, that hasn't changed".

Fourth, if it's been five years since the last time you talked, this is not the way to renew contact. Yes, you might get lucky, but you are stacking the deck against you. Honestly, there's probably no good way to renew contact anymore. It's fine, life does this to people all the time, especially after school and college.

Fifth... there's probably other girls in Germany? Whose company is enjoyable in non-platonic ways.



To be fair, sometimes people get into you in ways you can't describe and that aren't rational, and they stay there for far longer than they should, maybe even forever. Heck, maybe you will still remember this girl while being in a relationship with someone else. It's confusing. It doesn't mean you should try to bring a sense of closure to the situation above and against common sense.

Obviously, you are free to do whatever you want. Try not to frighten her in the process. And/or severly taint your public image.

I hope I haven't been harsh? Just trying to bring an outsider's perspective.

EDIT: yay 12 posts while editing this, so nobody will read it  :-X
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on July 14, 2014, 11:45:52 am
I think posting pictures of her in a public (or any) forum is much more creepy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 14, 2014, 11:46:18 am
Is this f.ds or a stalking forum? I feel like I'm creeping in this person now. :P

EDIT: double ninja'd
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 11:49:22 am
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as a friend
oh, we're friends? <3

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I think posting pictures of her in a public (or any) forum is much more creepy.
huh? it's on her facebook page. if you post picture on your facebook page, you obviously don't mind people seeing them. that's one of the reasons I don't want to do much with facebook.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 11:50:50 am
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as a friend
oh, we're friends? <3

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I think posting pictures of her in a public (or any) forum is much more creepy.
huh? it's on her facebook page. if you post picture on your facebook page, you obviously don't mind people seeing them. that's one of the reasons I don't want to do much with facebook.

The point is she voluntarily put it on there; she didn't give permission to someone to take that picture and post it somewhere else.

(You can argue there is implied permission, but it's hard not to see it in a bad way.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 14, 2014, 11:51:39 am
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I feel obligated to inform you that from an outside, unbiased perspective, creating a Facebook account just to contact a girl you once had a crush on is VERY CREEPY. I strongly advise you not do it.
aww really? but that's the only way to contact her... I just want to talk a little bit about the old days, it's the only way to do it.

Dude, please kill the image, as described above.

Pre-edit:  I was going to give advice, but no.  Just... don't do this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 11:54:41 am
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The point is she voluntarily put it on there; she didn't give permission to someone to take that picture and post it somewhere else.

I don't get it... isn't facebook this thing where everyhting you do gets spread around to everyone and whenever you upload anything you lose any claim of pricavy about it?

i mean what if i just linked her fb page?

but I can delete it if you want...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 14, 2014, 11:57:12 am
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I feel obligated to inform you that from an outside, unbiased perspective, creating a Facebook account just to contact a girl you once had a crush on is VERY CREEPY. I strongly advise you not do it.
aww really? but that's the only way to contact her... I just want to talk a little bit about the old days, it's the only way to do it.

Dude, please kill the image, as described above.

Pre-edit:  I was going to give advice, but no.  Just... don't do this.

I think Kirian and I are some of the oldest members of the forum. Not the oldest, but we have life experience. We know what we're talking about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 11:59:06 am
well, sorry about the image anyway. I've linked similar images in other forums before, and noone had a problem with it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 12:01:03 pm
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The point is she voluntarily put it on there; she didn't give permission to someone to take that picture and post it somewhere else.

I don't get it... isn't facebook this thing where everyhting you do gets spread around to everyone and whenever you upload anything you lose any claim of pricavy about it?

i mean what if i just linked her fb page?

but I can delete it if you want...

No.. try using Facebook.  It really is to connect better with friends and family.  Yes, you lose legal privacy claims, but I basically expect that people that visit my Facebook page won't really do anything with my images that I wouldn't endorse.
I don't really want to see pictures of me popping up randomly on other websites, or used in ways I'm not aware of.  I, personally, wouldn't feel violated about it, because I tend to shrug things off, but I imagine people would be, especially a girl. 

You shouldn't link her FB page without her permission, either.  There is a difference between being out there and available and having someone direct others towards you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 14, 2014, 12:01:08 pm
Personal note:  I'm FB friends with a HS crush on FB, but the whole crush thing was (1) acknowledged and (2) resolved well before high school was over.  If the crush were still a secret, it would have been really, really, really creepy to send her a FB friend request even though all of this happened over twenty years ago.

Meanwhile, both of my exes routinely show up in FB's "You Might Know These People" lists (because of course we have multiple mutual friends), and I have no trouble not sending friend requests to them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 14, 2014, 12:03:31 pm
well, sorry about the image anyway. I've linked similar images in other forums before, and noone had a problem with it.

For what it's worth, I have no problem with the image. I just think the fact that you posted it shows that you are very much interested in a relationship with her. Which means that you aren't really trying to get in touch with her "just to chat". That's how it looks to me, anyway. Sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 12:04:13 pm
I say "especially a girl" above because (I'm pretty sure) girls are more likely to be stalked than men are.  Just about every girl I know has some story of a guy acting creepy towards her at some point (many have many such stories), and some have become somewhat conditioned to be on the defensive.  So this kind of behavior, while not done with any kind of malice intent, would set off red flags and worry a lot of people.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 14, 2014, 12:07:45 pm
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I feel obligated to inform you that from an outside, unbiased perspective, creating a Facebook account just to contact a girl you once had a crush on is VERY CREEPY. I strongly advise you not do it.
aww really? but that's the only way to contact her... I just want to talk a little bit about the old days, it's the only way to do it.

Dude, please kill the image, as described above.

Pre-edit:  I was going to give advice, but no.  Just... don't do this.

I think Kirian and I are some of the oldest members of the forum. Not the oldest, but we have life experience. We know what we're talking about.

/me shakes cane in agreement

Edit:  Holy shit, the forum software supports emotes using "/em"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 14, 2014, 12:09:33 pm
/me shakes cane in agreement

Edit:  Holy shit, the forum software supports emotes using "/em"

Nice find!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 12:13:37 pm
I say "especially a girl" above because (I'm pretty sure) girls are more likely to be stalked than men are.  Just about every girl I know has some story of a guy acting creepy towards her at some point (many have many such stories), and some have become somewhat conditioned to be on the defensive.  So this kind of behavior, while not done with any kind of malice intent, would set off red flags and worry a lot of people.

Very much this. I wouldn't condone creating a facebook account just to send her a message, but posting pictures is right out, I'm afraid.

Also woooh all these responses so quickly. I am sorry we didn't say what you would have like us to say, but we thought you were about to make a big mistake...

In other news, also be careful about asking strangers in the internet about life advice! Yes, this contradicts everything I said beforehand!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 12:14:27 pm
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For what it's worth, I have no problem with the image. I just think the fact that you posted it shows that you are very much interested in a relationship with her. Which means that you aren't really trying to get in touch with her "just to chat". That's how it looks to me, anyway. Sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth.
you're way too concerned about my feelings... but no, I'm absolutely not trying to do any of that stuff. It never even considered the idea. aside from everything else, I don't think she is the kind of person I could have a functioning relationship with.

to be honest, I didn't even expect people to draw that conclusion (it's cool that it spawned so much discussion though  :) ). maybe I have a different perspective on relationships, but even considering a person you haven't seen in such a long time seems like really stupid to me. I have no idea what kind of a person she is, she has no idea what kind of a person I am, there's nothing to start with. thats probably why I didn't realize how weird it would be... in my mind it's really harmless

oh and she has a friend too, according to her fb page. or a girlfriend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 12:23:46 pm
Well, I still think it's okay to just become a regular Facebook user.  At some point you can reconnect with friends from the past, and there's no harm in that.  I got in touch with multiple people that I went to high school with through Facebook.. and in most cases got to know them better than I did in high school. (I was also a loner in high school.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 14, 2014, 12:30:12 pm
I'm very good at being accidentally creepy. You're idea is about on par with most of mine...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 12:35:35 pm
btw... I still don't get the image thing. the image is on her fb page, so if posting an image is a problem, posting a link to the fb page must be a problem too. but I found her facebook page having zero information except her name. so her name must be private too. but man, it's a name. your name is like the least private thing you have, you get assigned one without your agreement and lots of people know him before you do. would it be inappropriate to post her name?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on July 14, 2014, 12:38:30 pm
But there are quite a lot of names in the world and the chance that someone would randomly search teh facebook page associated with that name withot knowing the person it belongs to is pretty low.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 12:41:13 pm
would it be inappropriate to post her name?

Yes.

General rule of thumb: don't divulge information of someone without their express consent. Yes, information on a public facebook page is a tricky subject. Still, don't share it.

BTW, it is wrong to share information/pictures of celebrities when they don't want it to be public. The thing is, the more these people try to stop the spread, the more attention this stuff gets, so tough chance.

EDIT: I ninja'd WW. Today was a good day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 12:44:16 pm
btw... I still don't get the image thing. the image is on her fb page, so if posting an image is a problem, posting a link to the fb page must be a problem too. but I found her facebook page having zero information except her name. so her name must be private too. but man, it's a name. your name is like the least private thing you have, you get assigned one without your agreement and lots of people know him before you do. would it be inappropriate to post her name?

Yes, it is inappropriate to post any kind of personal information about someone without their consent.  Even if that information is attainable. 

I think the difference should be clear.  You know her in real life, you know her name, you have a reason to plop it in and see if she has a page.  You even have reason to send her a friend request.  Everyone that can possibly see this page (which is the entire world, you don't even have to register just to view) can see anything you post here.  It's possible (though unlikely) someone that knows that person in real life saw the picture. 

A Facebook page is not realistically accessible by those that don't know the person's name... sure, they could stumble upon it somehow (though possibly only if they're connected through friends of friends?), or if they know enough about a person, but because of the sheer volume of Facebooks users, a given user is someone protected from being found by someone without specific knowledge.

If it was a less personal thing, it probably wouldn't be an issue.  ("Hey, look at this cool and funny thing my friend did <post picture>").  But a link to someone's page, a picture, their name, etc. shouldn't be just shared without someone's knowledge.  Especially since this person doesn't even know that you're going about looking at their stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 12:53:00 pm
I feel like a kid being lectured :P but it's fine, I'll keep it in mind and act accordingly.

I don't agree with it though. It's stupid. You're uploading something on a site that everyone can visit, you shouldn't have any claims of privacy about the things you upload there. People may not be likely to find it, but they always could. You could always go to a facebook page of anyone you know, open a random thing they posted, read a random comment, go to the page of the person who posted the comment, repeat the same thing 10 times and you'll end up on the page of someone who has no connection whatsoever with the person whom you started with. and now it's not okay to post stuff about that person somewhere? really, that's dumb.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 01:05:18 pm
I feel like a kid being lectured :P but it's fine, I'll keep it in mind and act accordingly.

I don't agree with it though. It's stupid. You're uploading something on a site that everyone can visit, you shouldn't have any claims of privacy about the things you upload there. People may not be likely to find it, but they always could. You could always go to a facebook page of anyone you know, open a random thing they posted, read a random comment, go to the page of the person who posted the comment, repeat the same thing 10 times and you'll end up on the page of someone who has no connection whatsoever with the person whom you started with. and now it's not okay to post stuff about that person somewhere? really, that's dumb.

Because someone taking your information and posting it somewhere else is something that is targeted.  They're taking action that specifically involves you, presenting your information to many other people that you wouldn't expect would find it normally.  In one case it's someone randomly stumbling upon something you've put up on the internet.  Fine.  In the other case it's someone that you used to go to school with and that had a crush on you posting your picture on a forum you've never heard about saying "hey guys, think it's okay for me to creep on this girl"?  You're specifically targeted here.

Try to imagine it from the viewpoint of someone who actually has to think about being stalked or being victimized in any way.

(Edit: I know you're not actually being creepy; I'm just trying to explain how it could feel to the other party.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 14, 2014, 01:09:24 pm
I think I'll just do it. it's not like i can lose anything, worst case I'll pretty much be at the same position I was before I had the dream

the dream was weird btw, she looked differently and I can't recall much of what happened. but after i thought i woke up, i went to my pc and did the exact same thing (google her). i found a weird site that was sort of a summery of what to do when looking for that girl, but before I could do much with it, I realized that that was a dream too and I woke up (not really though, just part of the dream). I think I repeated a similar process ~2 more times before I woke up for real. but I also recall that the window was closed in my dream, which is very unusual because I usually don't close it during the night, and when I woke up it was really closed.

dreams are awesome  :P
The repeated attempts at contacting that girl, but ultimately failing every time because you wake up, is clearly symbolizing a situation where you want to do it, but the "reality" tells you that it's not a good idea. You have the website with the instructions, those are the key to opening the closed window.

Or something like that. Actually I'm just pulling this out of my ass, which was probably obvious too.

In any case, more than being a creepy guy, I'd be concerned with agreeing to Facebook's terms and conditions. I mean, as you said, you can't really lose anything even if she ends up finding you creepy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 01:30:51 pm
all of that stuff aside, seeing that picture is some sweet nostalgia. i used to spend countless hours in class just sitting there staring at her. other people would have done something, but I never did. just looking at her was way more interesting than class.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 01:36:52 pm
I think Kirian and I are some of the oldest members of the forum. Not the oldest, but we have life experience. We know what we're talking about.

/me shakes cane in agreement

Edit:  Holy shit, the forum software supports emotes using "/em"

Man, the oldest members of this forum are really in their thirties? We're a bunch of kids around here.

Anyone older than 50 around here (that wouldn't mind other member knowing that they are over 50)?

I can't wait to have a cane to shake at younger people, by the way. I was born to sit in a bench mumbling bad things about how "young people these days don't have any respect for their elders". Can't wait, I say.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 14, 2014, 01:37:06 pm
all of that stuff aside, seeing that picture is some sweet nostalgia. i used to spend countless hours in class just sitting there staring at her. other people would have done something, but I never did. just looking at her was way more interesting than class.

I find masturbation more interesting than school work too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 14, 2014, 01:45:20 pm
You could always go to a facebook page of anyone you know, open a random thing they posted, read a random comment, go to the page of the person who posted the comment, repeat the same thing 10 times and you'll end up on the page of someone who has no connection whatsoever with the person whom you started with.

Technically, where you end up really does have a connection to where you started. The process you describe is following those connections.  ;)

Edit: also, Kevin Bacon links us all!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 14, 2014, 01:59:41 pm
Man, the oldest members of this forum are really in their thirties? We're a bunch of kids around here.

Anyone older than 50 around here (that wouldn't mind other member knowing that they are over 50)?

42 here.

I believe SwitchedFromStarcraft is older, but I might be misremembering...in my old age.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 14, 2014, 02:06:20 pm
I think I'll just do it. it's not like i can lose anything, worst case I'll pretty much be at the same position I was before I had the dream

Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!

I feel obligated to inform you that from an outside, unbiased perspective, creating a Facebook account just to contact a girl you once had a crush on is VERY CREEPY. I strongly advise you not do it.

I agree with a lot that's been said, but if you can't resist, then at least make the conversation more natural. Is there a question that has never been resolved? Maybe there's a mutual friend that you haven't seen in a while and can ask about him/her. Did one of your former teachers die or retire?

I also think your best bet is to just make a FB account and create a network of friends. I get into conversations with people that I haven't seen in a while. They all kind of sputter out after a few days, though. You don't have to get all obsessive with FB. Hell, keep your photos limited to abstract ideas. The nice thing about FB is that it will recommend new friends. When you suddenly have 20 new friends, it's obvious that you're a new user, and no one's going to freak out over that. In fact, you could post on the wall things like, "Should I tell FB which high school I went to?"

Come to think of it, status updates and comments are a great way to get some conversation going anyway. Post engaging status updates. See which friends respond to them. If she replies to one, then you could expand on that. It might even lead to being able to chat in mail without seeming weird. And while it's not conclusive if she never replies to your witty status updates, it's very likely that she isn't that interested in chatting if she doesn't. So make sure you include some status updates about common interests (but don't make them all about that, or it'll look creepy again).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 14, 2014, 02:12:42 pm
Man, the oldest members of this forum are really in their thirties? We're a bunch of kids around here.

Anyone older than 50 around here (that wouldn't mind other member knowing that they are over 50)?

42 here.

I believe SwitchedFromStarcraft is older, but I might be misremembering...in my old age.

And of course DXV is 40+.  I think there are a few others older than me as well (36 tomorrow), and I think someone posted an age poll at some point that showed the average age here was skewed well toward 20-25.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on July 14, 2014, 02:15:24 pm
@Kuildeous: Setting up an elaborate scheme like that sounds a lot more creepy to me then simply sending a message along the lines of "Hey, I thought about you recently, how are things these days?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 14, 2014, 02:20:25 pm
@Kuildeous: Setting up an elaborate scheme like that sounds a lot more creepy to me then simply sending a message along the lines of "Hey, I thought about you recently, how are things these days?"

I'm just saying that if he is hellbent on getting into a conversation with her, then at least take steps that don't make him look like he makes suits out of people's skins.

Besides, you want to hold conversations with people who'll find them interesting. If she has no interest in what he's saying, then it's best not to force the issue. If there's a spark, then by all means let the conversation take you where it goes. And conversations usually build off of common ground. See if that's there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 14, 2014, 02:59:17 pm
I've been blocked for "liking" too many posts by a "new" friend on FB. Someone I hadn't talked to in a while. I have very few friends so I see a LOT of what they post. I've also been blocked for complimenting people, because apparently compliment = infatuation in the world of Facebook.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 14, 2014, 03:06:37 pm
I've been blocked for "liking" too many posts by a "new" friend on FB. Someone I hadn't talked to in a while. I have very few friends so I see a LOT of what they post. I've also been blocked for complimenting people, because apparently compliment = infatuation in the world of Facebook.

A certain friend of mine (who I won't name but he has an account on F.DS and was my housemate for about two years) I've got blocked permanently on Facebook because on three occasions he's reported posts of mine as bullying him, and Facebook has upheld it and sanctioned me for various periods - the most recent being a 3 day ban and being told that any further infringement will result in a permanent ban. What was I doing to bully him? Oh, things like saying that he did something innocuous and not me, like renaming a group, or tagging him in a generic photo he's in. I'm such a bully.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 14, 2014, 03:09:48 pm
I've been blocked for "liking" too many posts by a "new" friend on FB. Someone I hadn't talked to in a while. I have very few friends so I see a LOT of what they post. I've also been blocked for complimenting people, because apparently compliment = infatuation in the world of Facebook.

A certain friend of mine (who I won't name but he has an account on F.DS and was my housemate for about two years) I've got blocked permanently on Facebook because on three occasions he's reported posts of mine as bullying him, and Facebook has upheld it and sanctioned me for various periods - the most recent being a 3 day ban and being told that any further infringement will result in a permanent ban. What was I doing to bully him? Oh, things like saying that he did something innocuous and not me, like renaming a group, or tagging him in a generic photo he's in. I'm such a bully.

Sweet, going to stalk you on Facebook so I can report you!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 03:17:00 pm
I'm actually fairly annoyed by the fact that people can tag you on photos without your consent, and then the picture appears on your page. Is there anyway for me to prevent that? I don't mind the tagging specifically (odds are, people_that_know_my_name == people_that_recognize_my_face), it's the fact that it appears on my page that bothers me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Davio on July 14, 2014, 03:25:13 pm
Sometimes my "new replies" topics line up in a funny way: I don't think "Drinking Random Stuff" is a particularly good idea though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on July 14, 2014, 03:45:35 pm
I'm actually fairly annoyed by the fact that people can tag you on photos without your consent, and then the picture appears on your page. Is there anyway for me to prevent that? I don't mind the tagging specifically (odds are, people_that_know_my_name == people_that_recognize_my_face), it's the fact that it appears on my page that bothers me.

There are privacy settings for this I am almost certain.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 14, 2014, 04:12:03 pm
I've been blocked for "liking" too many posts by a "new" friend on FB. Someone I hadn't talked to in a while. I have very few friends so I see a LOT of what they post. I've also been blocked for complimenting people, because apparently compliment = infatuation in the world of Facebook.

A certain friend of mine (who I won't name but he has an account on F.DS and was my housemate for about two years) I've got blocked permanently on Facebook because on three occasions he's reported posts of mine as bullying him, and Facebook has upheld it and sanctioned me for various periods - the most recent being a 3 day ban and being told that any further infringement will result in a permanent ban. What was I doing to bully him? Oh, things like saying that he did something innocuous and not me, like renaming a group, or tagging him in a generic photo he's in. I'm such a bully.

Some thoughts on this:

1. Did he make that report facetiously?  Maybe he doesn't realize how serious Facebook takes reports like that.

2. Did he actually find your actions hurtful?  You might have meant some things in good fun and they may seem harmless to you, but some little things may bother your friend a lot more than he'd care to let on.

Either way, it's probably worth discussing the issue with that friend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 14, 2014, 04:17:30 pm
I've been blocked for "liking" too many posts by a "new" friend on FB. Someone I hadn't talked to in a while. I have very few friends so I see a LOT of what they post. I've also been blocked for complimenting people, because apparently compliment = infatuation in the world of Facebook.

That has the potential of having other creep factors. I have a friend who will periodically like four or five of my posts/comments in rapid succession. I presume because he was interested enough to view my wall and see all my activities and liking a bunch of them. I know the guy; I'm not surprised if he doesn't have time to constantly read updates from friends on Facebook so he periodically goes through and reads the walls of people he is interested in. It's flattering, though I do admit a slight weirdness when I see him shotgun liking my posts.

I could see someone really taking that the wrong way and freaking out. That person might not realize that you're liking the posts of 10 other people. People can be self-centered, and they may see such behavior as obsessive stalking when they think you're only liking their posts.

As far as complimenting people…that can be taken too far. Some people simply can't take a compliment. Then again, there are people out there who pay a compliment that really is creepy, so it's hard to blame them.

I'm actually fairly annoyed by the fact that people can tag you on photos without your consent, and then the picture appears on your page. Is there anyway for me to prevent that? I don't mind the tagging specifically (odds are, people_that_know_my_name == people_that_recognize_my_face), it's the fact that it appears on my page that bothers me.

Yes, there is a setting. I don't know it off hand, but I set mine so that anyone who tags me (not just photos) shows up in my timeline queue. I can either accept adding it to the timeline or deny it. Of course, if it's a picture, that picture is still up on FB under that person's account, but it doesn't have to show up under my name.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 14, 2014, 04:40:11 pm
For the first time in a long time, I don't think I get today's SMBC comic:

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140714.png)

Can somebody explain the joke?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on July 14, 2014, 04:42:24 pm
btw... I still don't get the image thing. the image is on her fb page, so if posting an image is a problem, posting a link to the fb page must be a problem too. but I found her facebook page having zero information except her name. so her name must be private too. but man, it's a name. your name is like the least private thing you have, you get assigned one without your agreement and lots of people know him before you do. would it be inappropriate to post her name?
In this day and age, posting the image *is* giving us a link to the facebook page - I just go to google and search for that image. Then I make a facebook account and say I'm that creepy guy who stared at her in high school, and see what it gets me. But you took the image down :rage:

It's possible that youngsters will have different attitudes towards this stuff, that they will think, of course everyone who wants to can find that naked picture of me that I sent on my phone to my special someone and that they posted after we broke up; everyone has one of those and there's no hiding them. Currently people aren't trying so much to shut down google's image-based search, but somehow they draw the line at it being part of a pair of glasses. I don't really know where things are headed but it's interesting.

I frequently use streetview, and I was looking at a block one day and saw a house that had been blacked out. They must have told google, no, sry guys, do not show pictures of our house on the internets, and google said sure fine np. Those people must not know about the Streisand effect.

Anyway my advice is, go out to eat. Try a different restaurant each night and after a few nights you will have found a cute waitress in the here and now that you can wish you had the guts to talk to, and can stop thinking about this girl from 5 years ago who after all is someone else now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 04:56:31 pm
For the first time in a long time, I don't think I get today's SMBC comic:

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140714.png)

Can somebody explain the joke?

Killing whales is bad. Maximizing human flourishing would let us kill whales. Hence this definition of ethics lets us do bad things. Contradiction.

Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.

EDIT: to clarify, I like SMBC, but when Zach goes preaching to the choir (a problem Randall from xkcd suffers from too nowadays), not so much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 05:20:31 pm
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Anyway my advice is, go out to eat. Try a different restaurant each night and after a few nights you will have found a cute waitress in the here and now that you can wish you had the guts to talk to, and can stop thinking about this girl from 5 years ago who after all is someone else now.
if i were in a new relationship with the love of my live that I happened to meet a couple of months ago, my reaction to this would be the exact same. dunno how much clearer I can make it. I just feel like, if I was obsessed over someone for the better part of 5 years, from 5th to 9th grade, it would be sad if I never talked to that someone ever again. it's almost a quarter of my life! that's the reason. it has nothing to do with how things currently are.

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It's possible that youngsters will have different attitudes towards this stuff, that they will think, of course everyone who wants to can find that naked picture of me that I sent on my phone to my special someone and that they posted after we broke up; everyone has one of those and there's no hiding them. Currently people aren't trying so much to shut down google's image-based search, but somehow they draw the line at it being part of a pair of glasses. I don't really know where things are headed but it's interesting.
I don't get what your point is. this wasn't something she would be ashamed of people seeing it, it was her profile picture, something that she uploaded herself and also something that's completely harmless. I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but it doesn't really fit what has happened here.

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In this day and age, posting the image *is* giving us a link to the facebook page
fine, I actually didn't know that. but I still don't get your point.

I think you misunderstood the whole situation. either way, I really hope you post another answer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 14, 2014, 05:24:54 pm
I'm actually fairly annoyed by the fact that people can tag you on photos without your consent, and then the picture appears on your page. Is there anyway for me to prevent that? I don't mind the tagging specifically (odds are, people_that_know_my_name == people_that_recognize_my_face), it's the fact that it appears on my page that bothers me.

Yes there is! Assuming facebook is laid out the same for you:

1. Click on the padlock in the upper right hand corner
2. Click on "See More Settings" at the bottom
3. Click on "Timeline and Tagging" on the bar on the left
4. Enable the second option down in "Who can add things to my timeline?"

Now you'll get notifications any time you're tagged and you can either add them to your timeline or not. :-)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 14, 2014, 05:26:40 pm
Oh, this is getting iiiiiinteresting.

(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5727.0;attach=1851)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on July 14, 2014, 05:59:30 pm
I've been blocked for "liking" too many posts by a "new" friend on FB. Someone I hadn't talked to in a while. I have very few friends so I see a LOT of what they post. I've also been blocked for complimenting people, because apparently compliment = infatuation in the world of Facebook.

A certain friend of mine (who I won't name but he has an account on F.DS and was my housemate for about two years) I've got blocked permanently on Facebook because on three occasions he's reported posts of mine as bullying him, and Facebook has upheld it and sanctioned me for various periods - the most recent being a 3 day ban and being told that any further infringement will result in a permanent ban. What was I doing to bully him? Oh, things like saying that he did something innocuous and not me, like renaming a group, or tagging him in a generic photo he's in. I'm such a bully.
I bet it's chairs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on July 14, 2014, 06:38:49 pm
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It's possible that youngsters will have different attitudes towards this stuff, that they will think, of course everyone who wants to can find that naked picture of me that I sent on my phone to my special someone and that they posted after we broke up; everyone has one of those and there's no hiding them. Currently people aren't trying so much to shut down google's image-based search, but somehow they draw the line at it being part of a pair of glasses. I don't really know where things are headed but it's interesting.
I don't get what your point is. this wasn't something she would be ashamed of people seeing it, it was her profile picture, something that she uploaded herself and also something that's completely harmless. I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but it doesn't really fit what has happened here.
That is just me commenting on the concept of "what will people's attitudes towards privacy be in this era of less privacy, especially people born into this era." It's not about you at all; it's strictly tangential.

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In this day and age, posting the image *is* giving us a link to the facebook page
fine, I actually didn't know that. but I still don't get your point.
My point with that sentence was just that: "isn't this interesting." And you didn't know it so I nailed that one.

It's not weird to want to catch up with someone you were friends with in high school. But when you say (digs up quote) "I have no idea what kind of a person she is," I think, what we have here is, a "stranger." Okay here: "i used to spend countless hours in class just sitting there staring at her. other people would have done something, but I never did." That's not someone you contact 5 years later. If you used to go skateboarding with her behind the safeway after school, but just never brought up the topic of romance, then sure, that's someone you can contact 5 years later.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 07:14:26 pm
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That's not someone you contact 5 years later.
well, why not? at the beginning of fifth grade I was 10 and she was 8, when I changed schools after the end of ninth grade I was 15 and she was 13. now I'm 20.  Maybe I'm overestimating how big of a difference that makes, but my feeling says that after such an amount of time, you can talk to someone pretty much regardless of what happened. yea I obsessed about her, but so what, we were kids. Dunno, that's my reasoning anyway. Whether or not you think it's weird ultimately depends on what kind of a person you are, maybe it would still be weird to most people.

Anyway, thanks for clearing stuff up. I'm glad the main thing was just me misunderstanding your post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 14, 2014, 08:29:36 pm
It's not weird to want to catch up with someone you were friends with in high school. But when you say (digs up quote) "I have no idea what kind of a person she is," I think, what we have here is, a "stranger." Okay here: "i used to spend countless hours in class just sitting there staring at her. other people would have done something, but I never did." That's not someone you contact 5 years later. If you used to go skateboarding with her behind the safeway after school, but just never brought up the topic of romance, then sure, that's someone you can contact 5 years later.
I had no idea what kind of people some of my Facebook friends were before I friended them. I'm pretty sure that most of my Facebook friends still have no idea what kind of a person I am.

The girl might have no reason to accept silverspawn's friend request, but what if she does? Wouldn't it be a huge waste then to not send one?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 14, 2014, 08:35:22 pm
It's not weird to want to catch up with someone you were friends with in high school. But when you say (digs up quote) "I have no idea what kind of a person she is," I think, what we have here is, a "stranger." Okay here: "i used to spend countless hours in class just sitting there staring at her. other people would have done something, but I never did." That's not someone you contact 5 years later. If you used to go skateboarding with her behind the safeway after school, but just never brought up the topic of romance, then sure, that's someone you can contact 5 years later.

This is not entirely true. There were people I didn't really talk to in high school, but I might want to see what they're up to later in life. Just as a point of interest. "Hey, so how are you? I ended up being a film director." "Cool, I never would have imagined that from my few memories of you." You can still contact people, as long as you present it in the right way. Like if I were going through my year book and decided to contact everyone in my year. True, perhaps silverspawns intention is different, but I don't really know. I certainly had crushes and I would totally contact them again, although I've gotten over them now. The more I write the more it seems I'm just agreeing with your post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 14, 2014, 08:41:59 pm
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That's not someone you contact 5 years later.
well, why not? at the beginning of fifth grade I was 10 and she was 8, when I changed schools after the end of ninth grade I was 15 and she was 13. now I'm 20.  Maybe I'm overestimating how big of a difference that makes, but my feeling says that after such an amount of time, you can talk to someone pretty much regardless of what happened. yea I obsessed about her, but so what, we were kids. Dunno, that's my reasoning anyway. Whether or not you think it's weird ultimately depends on what kind of a person you are, maybe it would still be weird to most people.

Anyway, thanks for clearing stuff up. I'm glad the main thing was just me misunderstanding your post.

I think Donald's point was that your comment makes it sound like you had a crush on her but never actually talked to her, making you a stranger that just happened to share a class with her.  It may be odd to send her a friend request then, not because you obsessed but because there was no actual interaction between the two of you.  It would be less weird if you had actually been friends with her in the past.

(But it would still be a bit creepy to go to the trouble of setting up a Facebook account just to interact with this one person.)

Edit: interestingly, I said just about the opposite of what KingZog said. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 14, 2014, 09:02:38 pm
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not because you obsessed but because there was no actual interaction between the two of you.
but that's not true at all. there was stuff that happened, lots of stuff, really. by saying "i never did anything" i just meant I never actively tried to get into a relationship with her.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 14, 2014, 11:47:56 pm
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not because you obsessed but because there was no actual interaction between the two of you.
but that's not true at all. there was stuff that happened, lots of stuff, really. by saying "i never did anything" i just meant I never actively tried to get into a relationship with her.

So then you fall into the latter example that Donald gave.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 15, 2014, 02:57:41 am
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1. Did he make that report facetiously?  Maybe he doesn't realize how serious Facebook takes reports like that.

Yes. I think he did most of them while I was in the room.

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2. Did he actually find your actions hurtful?  You might have meant some things in good fun and they may seem harmless to you, but some little things may bother your friend a lot more than he'd care to let on.

No, he wasn't bothered at all. He pretty much just hit the report button while I was watching him. I knew nothing was going to happen (at first), because it was obvious there was nothing FB would do, since I clearly wasn't doing anything. But they did.

This is probably the thing that really irks me about it. Most of my friends say when they've reported things on FB, nothing gets done and nothing happens. Yet somehow when this friend reported me, FB upheld it without the slightest shred of evidence being on the site (heck some of the things he reported me for made it look more like he was bullying me - which basically means a bully could continue bullying someone by reporting THEIR stuff online).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 15, 2014, 09:52:03 am
Okay I'm kind of confused.. are you actually not on good terms with this person any more, or was this just a joking thing that ended up being taken seriously by Facebook?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 15, 2014, 10:22:24 am
Okay I'm kind of confused.. are you actually not on good terms with this person any more, or was this just a joking thing that ended up being taken seriously by Facebook?

This was me being silly, and Facebook being stupid and over-serious about it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 15, 2014, 10:23:53 am
... so are you two going to brawl?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 15, 2014, 10:25:32 am
Also, do Tables have more IRL friends that he used to live with here? Otherwise he might have just said it was Joseph from the beginning. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on July 15, 2014, 10:34:23 am
I guessed it was him, but wanted to protect his anonymity.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 15, 2014, 11:12:15 am
Also, do Tables have more IRL friends that he used to live with here? Otherwise he might have just said it was Joseph from the beginning. ;)
No he doesn't.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 15, 2014, 12:08:09 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 15, 2014, 12:09:49 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

I think you have actually mentioned this incident before somewhere on this forum.  So I knew who it was.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 15, 2014, 02:35:13 pm
is there a way to bookmark a thread so that it always jumps to the newest post, instead of always jumping to the post that was the newest at the time when you created the bookmark?

and I'm just going to do it, the nice thing about advise is that you can ignore it if you want to
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 15, 2014, 02:52:09 pm
and I'm just going to do it, the nice thing about advise is that you can ignore it if you want to

(https://i.imgur.com/8xRSg3U.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 15, 2014, 02:53:42 pm
That post is so great because the quote together with the image works perfectly even completely out of context.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 15, 2014, 03:07:27 pm
I read a little bit of the discussion but here's what I think:

If you have a facebook account already, go for it.

If you're creating a facebook account JUST to contact this girl, bad idea.

Thank you, goodnight.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 15, 2014, 03:08:17 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

Well then, I'm confused as to why you've blocked Joseph.  If you are both still friends and know that Facebook is weird about reports, just make sure Joe doesn't report you for no reason again.  As a friend, that's not too much to ask of him.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 15, 2014, 03:14:21 pm
I don't know when the "random stuff" thread adopted the "call-in show" format, but I am not complaining.

*Grabs more popcorn*
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 15, 2014, 03:17:46 pm
I don't know when the "random stuff" thread adopted the "call-in show" format, but I am not complaining.

*Grabs more popcorn*

And our next guest is Kingzog3 who seems to have a problem using urinals in public restrooms. Please welcome... Kingzog3!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 15, 2014, 03:37:09 pm
I don't know when the "random stuff" thread adopted the "call-in show" format, but I am not complaining.

*Grabs more popcorn*

Much more interesting than Dear Prudence, which is the terribly strange mix of Dear Abby and Penthouse Letters.  At least the stuff in this thread has a chance of being real!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 15, 2014, 03:41:39 pm
actually i do have one (i know I made it sound like i didn't, apologies). i literally just made it to take part in a charity thing though... where 10 cents per like on a page would be donated or some crud, and then i never did anything with it ever again. that's years ago too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 15, 2014, 04:00:43 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

Well then, I'm confused as to why you've blocked Joseph.  If you are both still friends and know that Facebook is weird about reports, just make sure Joe doesn't report you for no reason again.  As a friend, that's not too much to ask of him.

Yeah, it shouldn't be, but considering that this already happened once (it wasn't a final warning that time, but I did tell him my account could be banned) and he reported stuff anyway, I don't really trust him to not do it again...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 15, 2014, 04:27:28 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

Well then, I'm confused as to why you've blocked Joseph.  If you are both still friends and know that Facebook is weird about reports, just make sure Joe doesn't report you for no reason again.  As a friend, that's not too much to ask of him.

Yeah, it shouldn't be, but considering that this already happened once (it wasn't a final warning that time, but I did tell him my account could be banned) and he reported stuff anyway, I don't really trust him to not do it again...

Ah.  OK.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 15, 2014, 05:33:28 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

I don't get it -- isn't this facebook's reporting system working exactly as it should? It's not like their system can or should have any way to differentiate between a "joke" report and a "real" report.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 15, 2014, 05:38:19 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

I don't get it -- isn't this facebook's reporting system working exactly as it should? It's not like their system can or should have any way to differentiate between a "joke" report and a "real" report.

Well, if you can single-handedly get someone perma-banned for doing nothing, I think that's indicative of a problem.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 15, 2014, 06:33:06 pm
Hey guys... where's Ozle?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 15, 2014, 06:34:33 pm
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is there a way to bookmark a thread so that it always jumps to the newest post, instead of always jumping to the post that was the newest at the time when you created the bookmark?
?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on July 15, 2014, 06:43:37 pm
Try http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.new#new  That takes you to the first post new to you, not quite what you want but close?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 15, 2014, 06:52:00 pm
Try http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.new#new  That takes you to the first post new to you, not quite what you want but close?

no, that's exactly what i want. thanks :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 15, 2014, 07:13:44 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

I don't get it -- isn't this facebook's reporting system working exactly as it should? It's not like their system can or should have any way to differentiate between a "joke" report and a "real" report.

In mine and facebook's defence, the first post I reported was Tables calling me (and another housemate stupid)- can't remember the exact details, but we let Tables do some strategy to win a boardgame, and then let him do exactly the same thing the next game (think it might have been us letting him get all the Science in 7 Wonders unopposed). So the first post could have been perceived as bullying etc.. The rest however were posts like "playing boardgames with Joseph" (with me tagged), and because I was tagged by Tables, they assumed he was bullying me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 15, 2014, 07:36:45 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

I don't get it -- isn't this facebook's reporting system working exactly as it should? It's not like their system can or should have any way to differentiate between a "joke" report and a "real" report.

In mine and facebook's defence, the first post I reported was Tables calling me (and another housemate stupid)- can't remember the exact details, but we let Tables do some strategy to win a boardgame, and then let him do exactly the same thing the next game (think it might have been us letting him get all the Science in 7 Wonders unopposed). So the first post could have been perceived as bullying etc.. The rest however were posts like "playing boardgames with Joseph" (with me tagged), and because I was tagged by Tables, they assumed he was bullying me.

But why did you keep reporting Tables even after Facebook showed that they hate him?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 15, 2014, 08:15:35 pm
I thought I was being pretty obvious that I was referring to Joe but I guess not. And no, I wasn't complaining about him as much as I was complaining about FB's reporting system being dumb.

I don't get it -- isn't this facebook's reporting system working exactly as it should? It's not like their system can or should have any way to differentiate between a "joke" report and a "real" report.

In mine and facebook's defence, the first post I reported was Tables calling me (and another housemate stupid)- can't remember the exact details, but we let Tables do some strategy to win a boardgame, and then let him do exactly the same thing the next game (think it might have been us letting him get all the Science in 7 Wonders unopposed). So the first post could have been perceived as bullying etc.. The rest however were posts like "playing boardgames with Joseph" (with me tagged), and because I was tagged by Tables, they assumed he was bullying me.

But why did you keep reporting Tables even after Facebook showed that they hate him?

Because I wanted to see what would happen, I didn't expect they'd threaten to permanently delete his account.
Also, he's mean.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 15, 2014, 08:18:33 pm
I don't know when the "random stuff" thread adopted the "call-in show" format, but I am not complaining.

*Grabs more popcorn*

And our next guest is Kingzog3 who seems to have a problem using urinals in public restrooms. Please welcome... Kingzog3!

It's scary how much you can guess about me. I had this problem today trying to use a urinal, but it was one of those ones where the front sticks out waaaay to far. So I have to stand strangely (I'm short) in order to both pee into the urinal without touching it because it's disgusting, but also not flash everyone else in the washroom.

EDIT: Like literally every urinal problem stops when they have dividers. Why doesn't every washroom have these? Like, why?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on July 15, 2014, 08:25:02 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on July 15, 2014, 08:30:32 pm
I don't know when the "random stuff" thread adopted the "call-in show" format, but I am not complaining.

*Grabs more popcorn*

And our next guest is Kingzog3 who seems to have a problem using urinals in public restrooms. Please welcome... Kingzog3!

It's scary how much you can guess about me. I had this problem today trying to use a urinal, but it was one of those ones where the front sticks out waaaay to far. So I have to stand strangely (I'm short) in order to both pee into the urinal without touching it because it's disgusting, but also not flash everyone else in the washroom.
Like KingZog3 at a urinal, I had to be on my toes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 15, 2014, 08:31:05 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Why would Wandering Winder bully himself? Sounds like an unstable guy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 15, 2014, 08:45:23 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Why would Wandering Winder bully himself? Sounds like an unstable guy.

you mean uns table?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 15, 2014, 09:53:24 pm
EDIT: Like literally every urinal problem stops when they have dividers. Why doesn't every washroom have these? Like, why?

I question the overall lack of privacy involved with men's functions and hygiene. I don't know if this is an American thing or what, but I don't much care for piss troughs and shower rooms without walls.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 15, 2014, 11:02:54 pm
EDIT: Like literally every urinal problem stops when they have dividers. Why doesn't every washroom have these? Like, why?

I question the overall lack of privacy involved with men's functions and hygiene. I don't know if this is an American thing or what, but I don't much care for piss troughs and shower rooms without walls.

Don't go to Wrigley Field then.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 15, 2014, 11:08:47 pm
Hey guys... where's Ozle?

Tuvalu.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 15, 2014, 11:39:13 pm
EDIT: Like literally every urinal problem stops when they have dividers. Why doesn't every washroom have these? Like, why?

I question the overall lack of privacy involved with men's functions and hygiene. I don't know if this is an American thing or what, but I don't much care for piss troughs and shower rooms without walls.

Man, am I glad I'm not the only one.  I hate urinals.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 15, 2014, 11:55:48 pm
Is it a modesty thing? Or an uncomfortable-ness thing? Or an uncomfortable-ness due to a culture of modesty thing? Or something else?

Urinals have never really bothered me, nor locker rooms or other similar situations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 16, 2014, 02:13:38 am
Urinals have never really bothered me, nor locker rooms or other similar situations.

This.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on July 16, 2014, 03:32:30 am
EDIT: Like literally every urinal problem stops when they have dividers. Why doesn't every washroom have these? Like, why?

I question the overall lack of privacy involved with men's functions and hygiene. I don't know if this is an American thing or what, but I don't much care for piss troughs and shower rooms without walls.

Man, am I glad I'm not the only one.  I hate urinals.
This. I avoid urinals to the point where I'll always walk the extra feet for a stall even if I'm 99% that no one will 'walk in on me'. I guess it's just the 1% chance that they will that scares me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 16, 2014, 04:46:23 am
I guess I'm just wondering where that social anxiety comes from, it doesn't really occur to me to be bothered when someone else comes in or when I walk in on someone else. It's not like urinals are (usually, I suppose) super revealing, plus it's either going to be strangers who you'll never see again, or someone you know and presumably would trust not to make an awkward situation out of an ordinary bathroom break. I guess there could be that intersection of people you know who you also don't trust to not make it weird, but then that sounds like it'd be an uncomfortable interaction no matter the context.

I do, of course, observe the ubiquitous urinal rule. (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5DzrhCQZWi4/UFMcItMORTI/AAAAAAAAA6A/ECbyGWk0ezw/s1600/urinal.jpg)

Edit: I'm just genuinely surprised to find at least 5 people here (based on posts and +1's) who have issues or annoyances with urinals. I don't recall knowing of anyone in person with any serious aversion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 16, 2014, 04:58:56 am
I'm more interested in knowing why it should be possibly awkward. I can eat in front of strangers and friends alike. Why should I not be able to relieve myself in the same manner?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on July 16, 2014, 05:27:23 am
I'm more interested in knowing why it should be possibly awkward. I can eat in front of strangers and friends alike. Why should I not be able to relieve myself in the same manner?

I suspect it's some evolutionary hangover.  Whilst using a urinal you're vulnerable in a way that you aren't when eating.  Behind a locked door, or in your home, you're completely safe.  I suspect that the more confident you are in general, the less offputting you find urinals to be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on July 16, 2014, 05:38:18 am
I'm more interested in knowing why it should be possibly awkward. I can eat in front of strangers and friends alike. Why should I not be able to relieve myself in the same manner?
I don't see what eating has to do with this. Would you feel comfortable having sex with a friend or stranger watching? Thought not.

I have no problem with urinals nor have I ever before encountered anyone saying they do, but I guess it's not the type of thing that ever comes up. I'd imagine the popularity of private and public saunas has made finnish people more comfortable with being naked compared to say the american culture.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 16, 2014, 06:00:53 am
I suspect it's some evolutionary hangover.  Whilst using a urinal you're vulnerable in a way that you aren't when eating.  Behind a locked door, or in your home, you're completely safe.

This does not transfer to most animals. So I'm not entirely sold on the idea.

I don't see what eating has to do with this. Would you feel comfortable having sex with a friend or stranger watching? Thought not.

Eating in front of people is something most people are comfortable with. I'm not too into the idea of having sex with someone not part of the act watching. And again, I'm kind of curious as to why it is that way. But I don't see what that has to do with it. I could be insanely interested in phobias while having one myself, right?

I have no problem with urinals nor have I ever before encountered anyone saying they do, but I guess it's not the type of thing that ever comes up. I'd imagine the popularity of private and public saunas has made finnish people more comfortable with being naked compared to say the american culture.

See, this is what I'm talking about. In Sweden we have some saunas. Probably not as much as you guys. Yet it's not entirely uncommon for people to wear towels or bathing trunks in saunas. Why is there a difference?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on July 16, 2014, 06:20:39 am
Some acts are just more private, I think. There is also the element of everyone being naked in the sauna, it's an even playing field.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 16, 2014, 06:42:00 am
But that's the thing. Why do we think some acts are more private? Also, as I said, in Sweden not everyone is naked in a sauna. So there's some difference there. And what causes this difference?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 16, 2014, 07:03:24 am
Maybe urinals aren't the cleanest thing around, but I've always been confused as to why people prefer to pee in bathroom stalls over urinals. I hope people are at least lifting up the seat before they pee, but then you don't want lift the seat with your bare hands, so lots of people don't and leave urine stains on the seat. Those jerks! And then there is the "splash damage" associated with peeing into water from a high distance. On top of it all, you risk seeing horror from an unflushed toilet (mega jerks!).

Urinals are great because there isn't enough time for gravity to accelerate the urine as it hits the water to splash on you. It does suck if you're short and there's no short urinal. Dividers are a nice bonus, but not a requirement for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 16, 2014, 08:24:01 am
I guess I'm just wondering where that social anxiety comes from, it doesn't really occur to me to be bothered when someone else comes in or when I walk in on someone else. It's not like urinals are (usually, I suppose) super revealing, plus it's either going to be strangers who you'll never see again, or someone you know and presumably would trust not to make an awkward situation out of an ordinary bathroom break. I guess there could be that intersection of people you know who you also don't trust to not make it weird, but then that sounds like it'd be an uncomfortable interaction no matter the context.

I do, of course, observe the ubiquitous urinal rule. (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5DzrhCQZWi4/UFMcItMORTI/AAAAAAAAA6A/ECbyGWk0ezw/s1600/urinal.jpg)

Edit: I'm just genuinely surprised to find at least 5 people here (based on posts and +1's) who have issues or annoyances with urinals. I don't recall knowing of anyone in person with any serious aversion.

In my case it's an aversion to standing up to urinate at all.  The aversion is partly medical:  after being catheterized for major surgery at a young age, I had extreme pain trying to urinate, and found that the only relief to be had was by sitting down.  And then I realized all the advantages that had; The Oatmeal explains some of them here (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/peeing_sitting_down), though misses a few other hygienic reasons.   Unlike him, I don't think that doing something "like a girl" is anything to be ashamed of (http://jezebel.com/always-ad-about-like-a-girl-taunt-will-make-you-cry-lik-1598187426).

So I suppose it's not urinals, technically, in my case.  And obviously I dislike public restrooms more than most men, just as women do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on July 16, 2014, 08:42:26 am
Eating in front of people is something most people are comfortable with.

Didn't you know you shouldn't eat that? It's immoral! Close your mouth when you chew! Don't grate knife across the plate! Stop slurping your soup!

Some of us don't want to enjoy your meal with you!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 16, 2014, 09:00:05 am
I watched Weird Al's new video, "Word Crimes." I'm not at a spot where I can access the video to post it here, but someone should do it as a public service. I think it's one of the greatest videos ever, and the lyrics are quite clever.

Then I watched "Tacky." While I appreciate the merits of the video itself, the song didn't do it for me. The refrain was just too powerful and drowned out the witty lyrics. This may be the result of spoofing a terrible song (like his Red Hot Chili Peppers spoof) that makes this one sound bad. At least I presume the original is terrible. Never really listened to it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on July 16, 2014, 09:16:16 am
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:17 am
But that's the thing. Why do we think some acts are more private? Also, as I said, in Sweden not everyone is naked in a sauna. So there's some difference there. And what causes this difference?

For me it's not so much an act of privacy for urinals. I mean, a little yes, I'd rather not flash anyone, but Ive done a lot of life drawing from models and am comfortable with nudity. I don't like touching them because they are dirty. I've encountered many many many urinal that protrude so far it impossible to pee without either touching it or waving my penis around so everyone can see. I don't mind standing next to a guy while peeing, I shouldn't feel like I'm sharing urinals with him .
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 16, 2014, 09:35:42 am
I guess I'm just wondering where that social anxiety comes from, it doesn't really occur to me to be bothered when someone else comes in or when I walk in on someone else. It's not like urinals are (usually, I suppose) super revealing, plus it's either going to be strangers who you'll never see again, or someone you know and presumably would trust not to make an awkward situation out of an ordinary bathroom break. I guess there could be that intersection of people you know who you also don't trust to not make it weird, but then that sounds like it'd be an uncomfortable interaction no matter the context.

I do, of course, observe the ubiquitous urinal rule. (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5DzrhCQZWi4/UFMcItMORTI/AAAAAAAAA6A/ECbyGWk0ezw/s1600/urinal.jpg)

Edit: I'm just genuinely surprised to find at least 5 people here (based on posts and +1's) who have issues or annoyances with urinals. I don't recall knowing of anyone in person with any serious aversion.

In my case it's an aversion to standing up to urinate at all.  The aversion is partly medical:  after being catheterized for major surgery at a young age, I had extreme pain trying to urinate, and found that the only relief to be had was by sitting down.  And then I realized all the advantages that had; The Oatmeal explains some of them here (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/peeing_sitting_down), though misses a few other hygienic reasons.   Unlike him, I don't think that doing something "like a girl" is anything to be ashamed of (http://jezebel.com/always-ad-about-like-a-girl-taunt-will-make-you-cry-lik-1598187426).

So I suppose it's not urinals, technically, in my case.  And obviously I dislike public restrooms more than most men, just as women do.
If you trust the toilet seat, urinating while sitting down has lots of hygenic advantages. "Splash damage" and aiming issues are eliminated. It does take more time to use than a urinal, and it's always good to leave stalls available for those who really need them. I'd probably use a urinal if it was installed in my house, but it would probably taint the air around it and therefore be a bad idea to have one in your own home.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 16, 2014, 09:43:21 am
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 16, 2014, 09:49:35 am
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Report it to Facebook, they have a hardline anti-bullying policy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 16, 2014, 10:48:48 am
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 16, 2014, 11:00:20 am
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on July 16, 2014, 11:16:41 am
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11402.0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 16, 2014, 11:22:40 am
make sure to get into the spirit of gunpowder before reading the thread. you have to understand that you can't judge the cards without getting a grasp of the greater picture. that's why so many people thought bomb was a bad card, they just compared it to island without any context! that's a really narrow minded way to go about it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on July 16, 2014, 11:37:36 am
Just had a urinal situation happen at work that slightly weirded me out:

Both urinals were occupied (I was in using one of them), and both adjacent stalls were open. Third guy walks into the bathroom, and instead of using one of the open stalls to pee, decides instead to wait for a urinal to become unoccupied.

I get that urinals are slightly quicker and easier...but if they are both occupied why wouldn't you just use a stall? I can't say I enjoyed having someone standing behind me waiting for me to finish, I was slightly weirded out. Just use the stall if it's available!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on July 16, 2014, 11:42:58 am
Just had a urinal situation happen at work that slightly weirded me out:

Both urinals were occupied (I was in using one of them), and both adjacent stalls were open. Third guy walks into the bathroom, and instead of using one of the open stalls to pee, decides instead to wait for a urinal to become unoccupied.

I get that urinals are slightly quicker and easier...but if they are both occupied why wouldn't you just use a stall? I can't say I enjoyed having someone standing behind me waiting for me to finish, I was slightly weirded out. Just use the stall if it's available!

Urinals are

1) Slightly quicker
2) Only usable for one purpose, whereas stalls are dual purpose. Maybe he didn't want to get in the way of someone who specifically needed a stall?
3) Less chance of urinals being biohazardous due to improper usage (no flushee flushee)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 16, 2014, 11:48:13 am
Someone please keep a link to this discussion handy, just in case someone 100 posts down the road dares to ask "Is this thread really random stuff?"  We can answer that yes, indeed, it is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 16, 2014, 12:10:33 pm
On a different topic:

I have a cold.  Sunday night I started getting congestion in the roof of my mouth and my throat felt kind of closed off.  Couldn't move it no matter what I did.  The trick of gargling salt water, which I have had work before, didn't help.  Monday didn't get much better, and I found an interesting remedy of eating raw garlic.  So I did that Monday night, two cloves.  I don't know if anyone has ever eaten raw garlic, but it's kind of like setting fire to your mouth, mind, and soul. But, wow, it really opened up my throat and drained things.  It didn't actually cure the cold, but it cleared me up for an hour or two and I think expedited the "junk stuck in my sinuses" stage to the "junk anxious to get out of my body" stage, which I suppose is a good thing.

I also learned why garlic is known as a bane to vampires.  I definitely felt like all forms of evil were being purged from my body.

So, anyone willing to suffer to alleviate a different form of suffering, keep that trick in mind.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 16, 2014, 12:13:42 pm
I don't know if anyone has ever eaten raw garlic, but it's kind of like setting fire to your mouth, mind, and soul.

That explains a lot about Wario.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 16, 2014, 12:29:50 pm
You get used to eating raw garlic after a while. It's said to prevent you from getting tics latch on to you. When I was younger I spent a lot of time in tic infested grass. So I ate raw garlic. And I agree. It's not that pleasant. But you definitely get used to it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 16, 2014, 02:17:02 pm
On a different topic:

I have a cold.  Sunday night I started getting congestion in the roof of my mouth and my throat felt kind of closed off.  Couldn't move it no matter what I did.  The trick of gargling salt water, which I have had work before, didn't help.  Monday didn't get much better, and I found an interesting remedy of eating raw garlic.  So I did that Monday night, two cloves.  I don't know if anyone has ever eaten raw garlic, but it's kind of like setting fire to your mouth, mind, and soul. But, wow, it really opened up my throat and drained things.  It didn't actually cure the cold, but it cleared me up for an hour or two and I think expedited the "junk stuck in my sinuses" stage to the "junk anxious to get out of my body" stage, which I suppose is a good thing.
Raw Garlic
Action - Duration
At the start of every turn, choose one: set aside any number of Chapel cards from your hand on the Raw Garlic mat, or put all cards from your mat into your hand.
___________
Setup: Add Chapel to the supply.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 16, 2014, 02:43:47 pm
And I think I have food poisoning. Fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 16, 2014, 03:48:42 pm
And I think I have food poisoning. Fun.

Just throw up and you'll be fine
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 16, 2014, 03:49:33 pm
And I think I have food poisoning. Fun.

Just throw up and you'll be fine

No thanks. I prefer to suffer for a few days if I have a choice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 16, 2014, 03:59:53 pm
Not sure why I didn't do this sooner, but I realized I really needed to change my signature.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 16, 2014, 04:04:23 pm
Friend of mine has a rather serene way of accepting vomiting. Granted, this is when he gets drunk and not food poisoning, but the concept might be the same. He views drunken vomiting as inevitable. It flows more freely and less painfully if you just let it happen. It was always a little disconcerting how calm he was when throwing up. Then he just continues as if nothing happened. I suspect he channels the ancient Romans who use vomitoriums the way they've never been used.

I find his logic convincing, but I can never just let it go. When I throw up, it gets very violent and tears up my insides.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 16, 2014, 04:04:59 pm
And I think I have food poisoning. Fun.

Just throw up and you'll be fine

No thanks. I prefer to suffer for a few days if I have a choice.

If you can manage, try to get a prescription for Zofran. Works miracles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 16, 2014, 04:10:27 pm
On a different topic:

I have a cold.  Sunday night I started getting congestion in the roof of my mouth and my throat felt kind of closed off.  Couldn't move it no matter what I did.  The trick of gargling salt water, which I have had work before, didn't help.  Monday didn't get much better, and I found an interesting remedy of eating raw garlic.  So I did that Monday night, two cloves.  I don't know if anyone has ever eaten raw garlic, but it's kind of like setting fire to your mouth, mind, and soul. But, wow, it really opened up my throat and drained things.  It didn't actually cure the cold, but it cleared me up for an hour or two and I think expedited the "junk stuck in my sinuses" stage to the "junk anxious to get out of my body" stage, which I suppose is a good thing.

I also learned why garlic is known as a bane to vampires.  I definitely felt like all forms of evil were being purged from my body.

So, anyone willing to suffer to alleviate a different form of suffering, keep that trick in mind.
Afrin nasal spray. Worked wonders for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 16, 2014, 04:34:23 pm
make sure to get into the spirit of gunpowder before reading the thread. you have to understand that you can't judge the cards without getting a grasp of the greater picture. that's why so many people thought bomb was a bad card, they just compared it to island without any context! that's a really narrow minded way to go about it.

Oh my god I totally missed this thread because I glanced at it and determined that it looked like a lame expansion. I'm so glad you posted the link so I could read all the drama. What fun!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on July 16, 2014, 04:39:02 pm
dude, raw garlic is great!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 16, 2014, 05:22:48 pm
On a different topic:

I have a cold.  Sunday night I started getting congestion in the roof of my mouth and my throat felt kind of closed off.  Couldn't move it no matter what I did.  The trick of gargling salt water, which I have had work before, didn't help.  Monday didn't get much better, and I found an interesting remedy of eating raw garlic.  So I did that Monday night, two cloves.  I don't know if anyone has ever eaten raw garlic, but it's kind of like setting fire to your mouth, mind, and soul. But, wow, it really opened up my throat and drained things.  It didn't actually cure the cold, but it cleared me up for an hour or two and I think expedited the "junk stuck in my sinuses" stage to the "junk anxious to get out of my body" stage, which I suppose is a good thing.

I also learned why garlic is known as a bane to vampires.  I definitely felt like all forms of evil were being purged from my body.

So, anyone willing to suffer to alleviate a different form of suffering, keep that trick in mind.
Afrin nasal spray. Worked wonders for me.

That stuff is good, but it has problems.  If you use it too much, or for too long of a time, it can lead to rebound congestion. Basically, if you use it daily for more than a few days, once it wears off you can get extremely congested, even if you're not really sick any more, so you pretty much have to wait around for that to go away while you can't breathe, or just continually use Afrin for about forever. 

So I try to keep the use of that to a minimum.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 16, 2014, 06:09:25 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11402.0

Whew. Reading that thread was a blast!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 16, 2014, 06:14:04 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11402.0

Whew. Reading that thread was a blast!

i see what you did there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 16, 2014, 06:26:38 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11402.0

Whew. Reading that thread was a blast!

It was clear that the discussion was going to blow out of proportion at any time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 16, 2014, 06:27:23 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11402.0

Whew. Reading that thread was a blast!

It was clear that the discussion was going to blow out of proportion at any time.

Bomb sucks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 16, 2014, 06:31:08 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11402.0

Whew. Reading that thread was a blast!

It was clear that the discussion was going to blow out of proportion at any time.

Bomb sucks.
I wasn`t interested in that thread when it was just about a fan expansion. I check back on it 4 pages later and "WHAAAA! How did this happen!?".

If there was ever an appropriate time for the "well, that escalated quickly" meme, it was for that thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 16, 2014, 06:32:28 pm
Maybe Tables is actually bullying Joseph and pressuring him to tell us otherwise?

Joseph upvoting this post confirms my suspicions. Let's all report Tables.

Waa! F.DS is bullying me!

Are you going to come up with a fan expansion to replace Alchemy next?

...I don't get it?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11402.0

Whew. Reading that thread was a blast!

It was clear that the discussion was going to blow out of proportion at any time.

Bomb sucks.

As I said. Tempers blazing left and right.

(You should have waited a bit for the chance to say "Bomb blows")
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 16, 2014, 06:50:26 pm
...
I wasn`t interested in that thread when it was just about a fan expansion. I check back on it 4 pages later and "WHAAAA! How did this happen!?".

If there was ever an appropriate time for the "well, that escalated quickly" meme, it was for that thread.

I had already added one before I saw this.  Too bad I wasn't reading the thread as it was going.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 17, 2014, 04:43:47 am
The new Thor will be a woman.

(http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4759616/MarvelThorWoman3.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 17, 2014, 05:23:57 am
I just made the splash and bought a Wii U. I'm getting it with 3 games - Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3 and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze - all critically acclaimed games, and I only actually need to buy two of them (MK8 has a deal for a free game, which I've chosen Pikmin 3). I'm looking forward to getting it. Anyone here got a Wii U, and any games you'd recommend? I'm thinking of buying New Super Mario Bros. U and Super Mario 3D Land, primarily. I've also considered Wind Waker HD, but since I own Wind Waker I'm less convinced it's worthwhile.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 17, 2014, 05:30:19 am
I'll be getting a Wii U when the new Smash Bros arrives. Mainly I want it for that and Bayonetta 2.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: blueblimp on July 17, 2014, 05:55:52 am
Super Mario 3D World is excellent, but you mentioned that already. If you like puzzle games, Pushmo World is downloadable.
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Post by: Tables on July 17, 2014, 07:18:27 am
Well apparently I haven't bought a Wii U because my order got cancelled for some reason :P. So time to re-order it I suppose...

I'll be getting a Wii U when the new Smash Bros arrives. Mainly I want it for that and Bayonetta 2.

I'm definitely looking forward to Smash, and Xenoblade X looks incredible - like a better Xenoblade and that's one of the best games of last gen, so, yeah.
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Post by: Lekkit on July 17, 2014, 07:47:29 am
Well apparently I haven't bought a Wii U because my order got cancelled for some reason :P. So time to re-order it I suppose...


Soon you'll be sitting with two Wii Us. :D It happened to us recently. So we have 200 spare phones in our office. We're usually ~5 people working.
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Post by: enfynet on July 17, 2014, 09:03:21 am
The new Thor will be a woman.

(http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4759616/MarvelThorWoman3.jpg)
"Because Disney sees the popularity of the character, portrayed by Chris Hemsworth, among women." (But does not realize most women like men, and could care less about his super-hero status.)
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Post by: Lekkit on July 17, 2014, 09:21:03 am
Yeah. We'll see how well this new Thor will do. I imagine the comic might be popular amongst boys that are not hard core fans of the old Thor.

I do think this is a pretty bold move from Marvel, though. And that's what I find interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 17, 2014, 09:22:23 am
The Landnámabók says Loki and Thor, not Loki and Taylor!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 17, 2014, 09:44:36 am
I'm from a former norse country, and I even have a norse name. They're called Loke and Tor here. But then again, we have people called Björn (the noun bear in Swedish), Sten (the noun stone) and Stig (the noun path). Names are silly!

I did find the joke funny, though. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 17, 2014, 10:08:04 am
Ah, well.. there could probably be a better joke made by someone that actually knows the culture and language.. plus, finding an American girl's name to rhyme with "Thor" was hard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 17, 2014, 10:26:58 am
The thing is:

"This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR."

Again, I still found the joke funny.

[EDIT:] And of course we have a female version of the name Tor. It's Tora.
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Post by: Kuildeous on July 17, 2014, 12:29:44 pm
Ah, well.. there could probably be a better joke made by someone that actually knows the culture and language.. plus, finding an American girl's name to rhyme with "Thor" was hard.

IT'S NOT LOKI AND ELANOR!

Sickos.
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Post by: Witherweaver on July 17, 2014, 12:34:21 pm
Ah, good one!

Better than "Taylor" as it can be a guys' name too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on July 17, 2014, 03:41:03 pm
I just made the splash and bought a Wii U. I'm getting it with 3 games - Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3 and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze - all critically acclaimed games, and I only actually need to buy two of them (MK8 has a deal for a free game, which I've chosen Pikmin 3). I'm looking forward to getting it. Anyone here got a Wii U, and any games you'd recommend? I'm thinking of buying New Super Mario Bros. U and Super Mario 3D Land, primarily. I've also considered Wind Waker HD, but since I own Wind Waker I'm less convinced it's worthwhile.
Mario Kart 8 is great, and the best Mario Kart game, but at the same time it's almost completely redundant with previous Mario Kart games. They just are not shaking up gameplay enough.

Pikmin 3 was great and I never played a previous Pikmin so they were safe there. The game is lacking in missions without the DLC.

The thing about recent Donkey Kong games is they tend to be really cinematic and too hard. The Wii one was too hard. Tropical Freeze was way too hard. I would make these games so beating a level was easy but getting all the puzzle pieces or whatever was hard.

Rayman: Legends and Super Mario 3-D World are both fantastic platformers.

New Super Mario Bros U is good, but it's the same game as New Super Mario Bros Wii. There are new levels but it's the same worlds even. The Luigi one is also the same, although there if you have a kid they can play as Nabbit so that's something, and the levels are more frantic.

Lego City Undercover is the best of the Lego games by a mile; don't get any of the other ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 17, 2014, 03:46:33 pm
I"m thinking of getting a PS4 soon.  But I really only like to play RPG's (a la Final Fantasy), so I think the tipping point for me will be FF15 coming out, or the PS3 FF games released for PS4.  (I never had a PS4.)

Is the new FFOnline worth looking into?  I used to play MMORPG's (EQ, FFXI, WoW), but really could not afford the time sink and got a little tired of having to find groups/guilds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on July 17, 2014, 05:06:04 pm
The thing about recent Donkey Kong games is they tend to be really cinematic and too hard. The Wii one was too hard. Tropical Freeze was way too hard. I would make these games so beating a level was easy but getting all the puzzle pieces or whatever was hard.

I like that the DKC games are so challenging, it's one of the things that makes them stand out from other platformers in my opinion (I haven't played Tropical Freeze yet, I'm planning to get it soon).  I think there are already plenty of games that are easy to beat and hard to 100%, it's nice that there's also games that are hard to beat and super hard to 100%.  Plus I think at least in DKC Returns you could skip parts of levels you were having trouble with, so it's not like you couldn't access all the content in the game just because you got stuck on one level (though I guess the game is no fun if you have to skip every level because every level is too hard).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 17, 2014, 07:32:56 pm
So today on a math test, I was supposed to draw the graph of z = f(x,y) = x^2 + 9y^2 - 9
I drew the graph of 0 = x^2 + 9y^2 - 9 instead for unknown reasons, and noticed this immediately after turning the test in.
Probably the other people in the class were wondering why I thought turning my test in was so funny.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on July 17, 2014, 07:35:41 pm
I"m thinking of getting a PS4 soon.  But I really only like to play RPG's (a la Final Fantasy), so I think the tipping point for me will be FF15 coming out, or the PS3 FF games released for PS4.  (I never had a PS4.)

Is the new FFOnline worth looking into?  I used to play MMORPG's (EQ, FFXI, WoW), but really could not afford the time sink and got a little tired of having to find groups/guilds.
FWIW, I have an account on FF14, and it was my first MMO. I had fun with it, but haven't played it in a while (essentially since before the last major content update). It looks really good, it's got interesting story, and they seem to have worked out a half-decent way to avoid needing to run around spamming LFG messages if you want to run an instance. I also didn't feel it was too grindy for the first role, although once you start picking up a secondary there aren't so many easy quests to knock over. And if crafting is your thing, then you will love it, but otherwise it will drag and you will only do it as much as is necessary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on July 17, 2014, 07:36:36 pm
So today on a math test, I was supposed to draw the graph of z = f(x,y) = x^2 + 9y^2 - 9
I drew the graph of 0 = x^2 + 9y^2 - 9 instead for unknown reasons, and noticed this immediately after turning the test in.
Probably the other people in the class were wondering why I thought turning my test in was so funny.
So technically you drew the correct graph, just with a very limited range.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on July 17, 2014, 08:36:56 pm
I like that the DKC games are so challenging, it's one of the things that makes them stand out from other platformers in my opinion (I haven't played Tropical Freeze yet, I'm planning to get it soon).  I think there are already plenty of games that are easy to beat and hard to 100%, it's nice that there's also games that are hard to beat and super hard to 100%.  Plus I think at least in DKC Returns you could skip parts of levels you were having trouble with, so it's not like you couldn't access all the content in the game just because you got stuck on one level (though I guess the game is no fun if you have to skip every level because every level is too hard).
Getting to see most of the content I'm buying is not the kind of thing where I get sick of it and want something else for variety; it's a staple, something to be done endlessly. I do not imagine they are possibly raking in enough "hooray it's crazy hard" customers to make up for the "I didn't get to play this, so much for you guys" customers they're losing.

In DKC Returns you could skip levels after failing them enough times, but not bosses.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 17, 2014, 08:47:40 pm
Rayman: Legends and Super Mario 3-D World are both fantastic platformers.

I just finished Guacamelee: Super Turbo Championship Edition on the WiiU. If you want a good platformer/action game, it's an excellent choice. It managed to keep my interest pretty well considering I'd played the original version four times (PS3 Normal, PS3 Hard, Vita Normal, Vita Hard).

Shovel Knight on WiiU is also fantastic. It might be more what you're looking for in terms of difficulty. Though maybe not. Some critics whined that it was too hard, others that it was too easy. For me it was just right*.

* Of course I then played it with New Game+, which is significantly more challenging and that was great too. I've beaten both Prinny games so nothing much fazes me platforming-wise.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on July 17, 2014, 09:55:45 pm
I do not imagine they are possibly raking in enough "hooray it's crazy hard" customers to make up for the "I didn't get to play this, so much for you guys" customers they're losing.

If that's true, it's only because DKC Returns/Tropical Freeze were so well done in terms of aesthetics and level design.  But I think if the game had been pretty average in all other regards, it would mostly just be getting bought by DKC fans, and most DKC fans are expecting a very difficult game and would probably be disappointed if it were not as challenging as the originals.  So maybe it is the case that being difficult lost them money, but only because the games were so well done that people who were not fans of the original series constituted a significant percentage of their buyers.

Anyway, I personally think it's great that the games are really hard.  If they're going to make a decision that costs them money but gets me a game I like better then I'm still happy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on July 17, 2014, 10:06:14 pm
Woah just checked on this thread. Got to say, ITT: people going into other peoples business.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 17, 2014, 10:21:34 pm
Woah just checked on this thread. Got to say, ITT: people going into other peoples business.

Personally, I am still waiting for Silverspawn's mission report.

Well-a well-a well-a Huh
Tell me more, tell me more...
Did you get very far?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 17, 2014, 11:08:31 pm
Quote
Personally, I am still waiting for *silverspawn's mission report.
yea, hm, that. don't rush :x
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on July 17, 2014, 11:23:55 pm
* Of course I then played it with New Game+, which is significantly more challenging and that was great too. I've beaten both Prinny games so nothing much fazes me platforming-wise.

I still need to finish Prinny 2. I've beaten Prinny 1 on Standard many times, and on Hell's finest once, but I've been having some trouble with Prinny 2 because of 3 hit death instead of 4 hit death, plus what feels like a bit more insta-kill. Or, maybe I just don't know the mechanics of 2 that well...

When it comes to platformers, I feel like I'm much worse than other people, but I grind out more hours so I still beat them anyways.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Beyond Awesome on July 18, 2014, 01:41:46 am
I never even knew this thread existed before. So, what should I talk about?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 18, 2014, 02:18:59 am
I never even knew this thread existed before. So, what should I talk about?
Random stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on July 18, 2014, 02:42:38 am
I never even knew this thread existed before. So, what should I talk about?
Random stuff.

Or not. Maybe flip a coin to decide.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 09:10:35 am
I may try FFXIV, we'll see.

Is the "prinny" you guys are talking about related to Disgea?  Has anyone played that series?  I started one of them for the PS2 some years ago, but it seems to be essentially open-ended.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on July 18, 2014, 09:46:04 am
so what color furniture is the most appealing?  Also, chairs, with cushions or without?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 18, 2014, 09:49:09 am
All the colors! Chairs with cusions. Otherwise you'll get a sore butt if you sit down too long.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 18, 2014, 10:18:39 am
Agreed. Cushions are required for Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 10:21:08 am
So for anyone who like Belle and Sebastian (which should be everyone, because they are fantastic), a teaser trailer for Stuart Murdoch's new movie God Help the Girl has been released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jc2gHpNbyc

I can't wait for the movie.  The album of the music was released years ago, and it's very good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 18, 2014, 11:40:29 am
so what color furniture is the most appealing?  Also, chairs, with cushions or without?
I would ask this guy, (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2186) he seems to know a lot about furniture.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 18, 2014, 12:24:10 pm
All the colors! Chairs with cusions. Otherwise you'll get a sore butt if you sit down too long.

This could be considered an advantage. Standing up every so often is healthy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 18, 2014, 12:31:16 pm
All the colors! Chairs with cusions. Otherwise you'll get a sore butt if you sit down too long.

This could be considered an advantage. Standing up every so often is healthy.

Sta-nding?

http://youtu.be/jOUiAr9-KSo?list=PLbf98qIKb97fMRm_TPY241yRC6AwGMCNg
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 18, 2014, 12:56:53 pm
I can cover artists other than Yuki Kajiura too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jV3b95Vd8I
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 18, 2014, 01:15:07 pm
Woah just checked on this thread. Got to say, ITT: people going into other peoples business.

Personally, I am still waiting for Silverspawn's mission report.

Well-a well-a well-a Huh
Tell me more, tell me more...
Did you get very far?


I hate Grease, and now that song is stuck in my head.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 18, 2014, 01:30:24 pm
Woah just checked on this thread. Got to say, ITT: people going into other peoples business.

Personally, I am still waiting for Silverspawn's mission report.

Well-a well-a well-a Huh
Tell me more, tell me more...
Did you get very far?


I hate Grease, and now that song is stuck in my head.

Tell me more, tell me more,
'Cause he sounds like a drag!

Shoo-bop-bop, shoo-bop-bop, shoo-bop-bop, shoo-bop-bop
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 18, 2014, 02:54:08 pm
mhmm im being slow played  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 18, 2014, 03:09:15 pm
Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 03:15:31 pm
... so you're pathetic?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 03:16:22 pm
I never bothered to check.. does Goko have a reporting mechanism to report the general rude online jerks?  Or just an ignore feature?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 18, 2014, 03:20:38 pm
I never bothered to check.. does Goko have a reporting mechanism to report the general rude online jerks?  Or just an ignore feature?

This is worse than rude behavior, since he threatened physical harm.  I would absolutely report it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 03:24:33 pm
I never bothered to check.. does Goko have a reporting mechanism to report the general rude online jerks?  Or just an ignore feature?

This is worse than rude behavior, since he threatened physical harm.  I would absolutely report it.

Well, yes, but I mean.. how does reporting work on Goko?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 18, 2014, 03:27:10 pm
I never bothered to check.. does Goko have a reporting mechanism to report the general rude online jerks?  Or just an ignore feature?

This is worse than rude behavior, since he threatened physical harm.  I would absolutely report it.

dunno, i kind of relate to him. I've done things like that before in sc2. also, the last time someone slow played me in dominion,  I was all like "why am i pathetic. explain", and i ended up having a pretty long conversation with him about manners, and in the end he even gave me a free win. i tried the same thing here, but this guy stopped responding at some point
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jsh357 on July 18, 2014, 03:57:40 pm
So for anyone who like Belle and Sebastian (which should be everyone, because they are fantastic), a teaser trailer for Stuart Murdoch's new movie God Help the Girl has been released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jc2gHpNbyc

I can't wait for the movie.  The album of the music was released years ago, and it's very good.

I am seeing them live in October.  Can't wait.  I'll probably catch the film whenever it surfaces online.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 18, 2014, 04:13:36 pm
I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?

A general mnemonic is that he = who and him = whom.  But in this case --

"which should only apply to him"
"he has it in play"

I'm not sure how the grammar is supposed to parse here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 04:22:59 pm
So for anyone who like Belle and Sebastian (which should be everyone, because they are fantastic), a teaser trailer for Stuart Murdoch's new movie God Help the Girl has been released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jc2gHpNbyc

I can't wait for the movie.  The album of the music was released years ago, and it's very good.

I am seeing them live in October.  Can't wait.  I'll probably catch the film whenever it surfaces online.

Where?!  I've seen them live twice.  Both times in Brooklyn.  They're great live.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jsh357 on July 18, 2014, 04:35:23 pm
Atlanta.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 18, 2014, 04:38:34 pm
I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?

A general mnemonic is that he = who and him = whom.  But in this case --

"which should only apply to him"
"he has it in play"

I'm not sure how the grammar is supposed to parse here.

The actual rule to follow in this case is that "who/whoever" is in the subjective (or nominative) case, while "whom/whomever" is in the objective case. 

So the first sentence, you "him" is being used as an object of a preposition and is in the objective case.  Therefore, "whom" is correct.

In the second sentence, "he" is subject of the sentence and is in the subjective case, so "who" is correct.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 18, 2014, 04:40:18 pm
I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 18, 2014, 05:25:22 pm
I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
"apply to whomever it has in play."

Who has it in play? He has it in play, therefore it's whoever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: shraeye on July 18, 2014, 05:26:35 pm
so what color furniture is the most appealing?  Also, chairs, with cushions or without?

All the colors! Chairs with cusions. Otherwise you'll get a sore butt if you sit down too long.
Agreed. Cushions are required for Dominion.
I do not know why you guys responded to the question that was clearly asked only to chairs.  It was rude, and I refuse to listen to your answers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 18, 2014, 06:32:04 pm
I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
"apply to whomever it has in play."

Who has it in play? He has it in play, therefore it's whoever.
Are you sure?

What is being applied? It (the effect in question) is being applied.

It's being applied to whom? "Whoever has it in play" has the effect applied to them.

Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 18, 2014, 06:39:40 pm
Wait, is "whomever" even a word? I don't think I've ever seen it written.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 18, 2014, 06:55:37 pm
if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on July 18, 2014, 07:03:53 pm
Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 18, 2014, 07:24:01 pm
Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."

Blasphemy!  I took thee for thy better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 18, 2014, 07:37:51 pm
Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."

Blasphemy!  I took thee for thy better.

Thy tongue betrayeth thee. Mayhaps ye old bar of soap can purge such nonsense from thy mouth!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 18, 2014, 07:47:24 pm
if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 08:01:14 pm
"Whom" and "whomever" are both used commonly in the standard way. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 18, 2014, 08:03:16 pm
I think the second point is wrong.  It specifically says "when you gain a card", which should only apply to whomever has it in play, not to opponents.

Should that say "whomever", or "whoever"?
So it should say "whomever" here because you are using it in the objective case as the object of the preposition "to"
"apply to whomever it has in play."

Who has it in play? He has it in play, therefore it's whoever.

"Apply to  ".  Consider putting yourself in there.  Is it "apply to me" or "apply to I"? 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 18, 2014, 08:19:25 pm
Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."
My brother, as a linguistics graduate, says the same thing. I could have asked him about this, but he wasn't around.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 18, 2014, 08:29:55 pm
Any grammar experts willing to step in and clarify this?
I'm there for you.

It's a living language. "Whom" and "whomever" are dying words, normally not used by English speakers except in very particular contexts. Don't cling to 'em, that's my advice; let 'em go. Consider how easy you find it not to use "ye."

"Ye" is just an orthographical variant of "the".  English used to use the letter "thorn" to denote the "th" sound.  "y" looks a bit like an incomplete thorn and was used until eventually "th" won out leaving us with the.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on July 18, 2014, 08:34:36 pm
if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 18, 2014, 10:13:34 pm
if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 18, 2014, 10:37:32 pm
if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)

orly? i use it all the time. but i've never seen anyone else using it, now that i think about it. thanks, that's probably a good thing to stop doing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 18, 2014, 10:40:55 pm
if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)

orly? i use it all the time. but i've never seen anyone else using it, now that i think about it. thanks, that's probably a good thing to stop doing.

Yeah, use "e.g." for examples.  Also note that people often confuse it with "i.e", which is not for examples but rather to clarify something specific.  For more info, check out this Oatmeal comic (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/ie).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on July 18, 2014, 11:40:09 pm
"Ye" is just an orthographical variant of "the".  English used to use the letter "thorn" to denote the "th" sound.  "y" looks a bit like an incomplete thorn and was used until eventually "th" won out leaving us with the.
"Ye" isn't "just" that; I was referring to "ye" as in "whom do ye trust?" We say "you" there now, although back then "you" was just the plural form of "thou."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 19, 2014, 12:21:43 am
if you want to specify a thing that is from another thing, but that thing is not a person, can you still use "whose"? f.e, is "a lake whose water..." correct? sounds wrong.

bump. this was an actual question :)

I don't think "whose" sounds wrong. You could also try "with", or go full awkward and say "a lake that contains water (that/which/whatever ....)"

I would use whose. Anthropomorphization ftw

Also, I assume that "f.e." stands for for "for example," but it's not an acronym I've seen anyone else use. "e.g." is the standard in English AFAIK (short for Latin Exempli Gratia)

fe stands for iron
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on July 19, 2014, 03:49:23 am
Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.

You would not believe how much I lol'd at this and then how disappointed I got when I realised it wasn't actually the Facebook stalking mission report.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 19, 2014, 04:44:16 am
Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.

You would not believe how much I lol'd at this and then how disappointed I got when I realised it wasn't actually the Facebook stalking mission report.
I thought he was referring to that with "being slow played", too, until the second post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 19, 2014, 11:11:04 am
I thought he was referring to that with "being slow played", too, until the second post.

Same here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 19, 2014, 02:15:04 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/2974d54f9f63515cff0a5b29f9fa35d2/tumblr_n8vhz0RJxs1qewacoo1_500.gif)

You won't believe what's in the smallest one!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 19, 2014, 07:06:21 pm
Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.

Aside from the fact that I also was expecting a mission report, I was amused by this exchange.

The guy is lambasting you for "wasting your time" playing a game, when he's wasting his time not playing a game. And that's normally fine; a lot of people waste their times not playing games--eating a juicy cheeseburger, curing cancer, getting laid--but he's wasting his time making fun of someone else wasting his time.

Truly pathetic behavior.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on July 19, 2014, 07:16:47 pm
You won't believe what's in the smallest one!

This is why you should never go out without an axiom of foundation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 19, 2014, 07:39:26 pm
anyone wanna see the previous conversation i had with a similar guy? that turned out a lot better though. i'm kind of proud.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 19, 2014, 07:40:12 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/2974d54f9f63515cff0a5b29f9fa35d2/tumblr_n8vhz0RJxs1qewacoo1_500.gif)

You won't believe what's in the smallest one!

I bet this was the guy Silverspawn played against, which was why plays took so long.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 19, 2014, 08:32:40 pm
anyone wanna see the previous conversation i had with a similar guy? that turned out a lot better though. i'm kind of proud.

Always up for some schadenfreude.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 19, 2014, 08:48:03 pm
anyone wanna see the previous conversation i had with a similar guy? that turned out a lot better though. i'm kind of proud.

Always up for some schadenfreude.

it's here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29970540/konversation.txt). i saved it after it happened
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 19, 2014, 10:10:27 pm
anyone wanna see the previous conversation i had with a similar guy? that turned out a lot better though. i'm kind of proud.

Always up for some schadenfreude.

it's here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29970540/konversation.txt). i saved it after it happened

I kind of wish that had turned out with both of you agreeing that slowplaying is bad, and him swearing at you for slowplaying him, and you pointing out that he was the one doing the slowplaying. But I guess that is not at all close to what actually happened.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 20, 2014, 09:53:25 am
It turned more civil than I expected from the opening. You have a lot more patience than I do. If someone calls me a pussy with specious reasoning, I pretty much ignore him.

I love how he name-drops. Hrn, hrn, I beat WW dozens of times. Yeah, good for you. Now shut up and play.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 20, 2014, 10:42:37 am
It turned more civil than I expected from the opening. You have a lot more patience than I do. If someone calls me a pussy with specious reasoning, I pretty much ignore him.

I love how he name-drops. Hrn, hrn, I beat WW dozens of times. Yeah, good for you. Now shut up and play.

Fact check time!

Garrett Wilson has played all of those people he mentioned (and more).  Thanks to amalloy's stat page (http://malloys.org:6789/winrate?player=Garrett+Wilson&include-pro=true) we can easily pull up how he actually fared against a few of them:


Opponent
Wandering Winder
SheCantSayNo
Stef
Times played
15
9
8
win % against
30
22
37

So he plays quite well against Stef, winning an amazing 37% of his games.  Not so good against WW, as he has only won 4.5/15 games.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 20, 2014, 10:57:45 am
i didn't know this site... let's see how welll I'm doing


Opponent
Wandering Winder
SheCantSayNo
Stef
Andrew Iannacone
HvBoedefeld
Perry Green
Times played
9   
0
4
29
85   
7
win % against
33
-
50
46
32
28

well that's kind of bad... but it's interesting how I'm doing better the more comfortable I am playing. good thing I didn't play scsn
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 20, 2014, 11:41:14 am
This page is cool. I forgot about it.


Opponent
Wandering Winder
SheCantSayNo
Stef
Andrew Iannacone
HvBoedefeld
Perry Green
Silverspawn
FTTW
Times played
5   
4
0
11
15   
11
10
82
win % against
20
0
-
50
46
31
60
53

Take that FTTW. You always whine I beat all the time but it's only 53% of the time! Also, 0% against SCSN :( and haha silverspawn, I beat you 60% of the time :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 20, 2014, 11:50:38 am
-- unrelated --
Last night i dreamt that I was making a post somewhere in this forum, in an area where you have only limited permissions or something, but I thought my post was completely fine. KingZong however reported me for it and temporarily banned my account for that specific area. I thought it was extremely unfair and so I pm'd him complaining. he answered that it wasn't actually this post, but "this whining here" why he banned me, referring to another post that I had made, in which I opened a thread, summarized a IRL game I had had, and asked for help. the post went something like

"so, hiuhiu, I had this rebuild game, and lots of junk was flying around, and I was building but I didn't get far, and in the end some guys just got Provinces at random {{I think it was via swindler peddler -> province}} and won, what could i do better?"

I was really angry about this, because I thought that i had played this game at ~4am, and after that I spend about an hour thinking about how to phrase the OP, because I didn't want it to sound arrogant, and of course I make myself look like a worse player there than I actually am, but {{something}} {{and also some other things I can't remember}}. I wanted to pm KingZong again telling him this, but I didn't get to it. (my thread never got any responses)

Then I woke up, and I thought about it, and I found it funny, because the first post in the restricted area never actually happened, and I only posted the Thread which didn't get any response for real, KingZong also never banned me. Then I woke up for real.

Also funny was that when I wrote down my dream (I always write down everything I dream) I started in german as normal, but I wrote my OP in english, because it happened in english in my dream, and then when I finished I realized that I had written everything up from the OP also in english without even noticing.

Quote
and haha silverspawn, I beat you 60% of the time :P
yea 6-4  ::)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 20, 2014, 11:52:32 am
Oh cool! Well I haven't played in a while anyway, I'm rusty.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 20, 2014, 11:53:09 am
KingZong
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 20, 2014, 12:03:49 pm
While it sucks that I have to come into the office to make up for someone else's incompetence, the emptiness means that I can freely bring in my tablet and watch Netflix while I'm working.

Man, I so love Big Trouble in Little China. It has the right amount of cheese to be awesome.

I think there should be a TV series called The Pork Chop Express where Jack Burton travels across the country experiencing weird shit: Jersey Devil, Mole Men, and so on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 20, 2014, 12:09:48 pm
KingZong
i never realized that he is spelled differently  ???
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 20, 2014, 12:11:54 pm
KingZong
i never realized that he is spelled differently  ???

KingZongaDongaSpangaLang IV
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 20, 2014, 12:12:31 pm
This reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 20, 2014, 02:06:39 pm
-- unrelated --
Last night i dreamt that I was making a post somewhere in this forum, in an area where you have only limited permissions or something, but I thought my post was completely fine. KingZong however reported me for it and temporarily banned my account for that specific area. I thought it was extremely unfair and so I pm'd him complaining. he answered that it wasn't actually this post, but "this whining here" why he banned me, referring to another post that I had made, in which I opened a thread, summarized a IRL game I had had, and asked for help. the post went something like

"so, hiuhiu, I had this rebuild game, and lots of junk was flying around, and I was building but I didn't get far, and in the end some guys just got Provinces at random {{I think it was via swindler peddler -> province}} and won, what could i do better?"

I was really angry about this, because I thought that i had played this game at ~4am, and after that I spend about an hour thinking about how to phrase the OP, because I didn't want it to sound arrogant, and of course I make myself look like a worse player there than I actually am, but {{something}} {{and also some other things I can't remember}}. I wanted to pm KingZong again telling him this, but I didn't get to it. (my thread never got any responses)

Then I woke up, and I thought about it, and I found it funny, because the first post in the restricted area never actually happened, and I only posted the Thread which didn't get any response for real, KingZong also never banned me. Then I woke up for real.

Also funny was that when I wrote down my dream (I always write down everything I dream) I started in german as normal, but I wrote my OP in english, because it happened in english in my dream, and then when I finished I realized that I had written everything up from the OP also in english without even noticing.

Quote
and haha silverspawn, I beat you 60% of the time :P
yea 6-4  ::)

Yea, it's too bad our incompetent admin theory can't deal with trolls like KingZong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on July 20, 2014, 02:19:27 pm
thoroughly unprofessional, really.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 20, 2014, 02:31:05 pm
This reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss

Hingle McCringleberry.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 20, 2014, 02:33:09 pm
KingZong
i never realized that he is spelled differently  ???

KingZong is wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 20, 2014, 02:49:36 pm
KingZong
i never realized that he is spelled differently  ???

KingZong is wrong.
Then, is KingZog wrog?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 20, 2014, 02:56:31 pm
well to be fair, I always thought you were called KingZong, and in my dream you were called KingZong, so it was correct in that context. i dreamt about KingZong, even if that's not you  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 20, 2014, 03:29:01 pm
well to be fair, I always thought you were called KingZong, and in my dream you were called KingZong, so it was correct in that context. i dreamt about KingZong, even if that's not you  :P

Is your world shattered now? You finally actually read my username :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on July 20, 2014, 03:32:19 pm
well to be fair, I always thought you were called KingZong, and in my dream you were called KingZong, so it was correct in that context. i dreamt about KingZong, even if that's not you  :P

Is your world shattered now? You finally actually read my username :P

what happened to KingZog1 and 2 anyway?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 20, 2014, 03:33:35 pm
well to be fair, I always thought you were called KingZong, and in my dream you were called KingZong, so it was correct in that context. i dreamt about KingZong, even if that's not you  :P

Is your world shattered now? You finally actually read my username :P

what happened to KingZog1 and 2 anyway?

KingZog4 and I don't talk about them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 20, 2014, 03:50:56 pm
Great, now I want to create a fake account named KingZog2 and post, "Miss me, bitches?!"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 20, 2014, 04:42:47 pm
Great, now I want to create a fake account named KingZog2 and post, "Miss me, bitches?!"

I want theory to create a new admin account named KingZong, from which he shall conduct all future user bans.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 20, 2014, 04:53:47 pm
Great, now I want to create a fake account named KingZog2 and post, "Miss me, bitches?!"

I want theory to create a new admin account named KingZong, from which he shall conduct all future user bans.

And instead of being banned, it says you've been Zonged. "User has been Zonged for this post"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog2 on July 20, 2014, 04:57:55 pm
How dare you say you don't talk about me! I'm your sister from Seaside! Uuuurrg I hate you #3!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 20, 2014, 05:42:59 pm
I was doing my calculus homework today and I kept getting a problem wrong. (it is online and tells you if you are correct)
Apparently my error was that I put log instead of ln. This made me mad, since log should be the same thing as ln.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 20, 2014, 06:09:38 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 20, 2014, 06:10:37 pm
I never use ln because with my handwriting it's hard to tell what it is. But "log" is always discernible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 20, 2014, 06:10:50 pm
This reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss

Hingle McCringleberry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJb2iLvOKE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 20, 2014, 06:16:01 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.
I think log should never be used for natural log. If you want to use natural log, write ln, use log only if it doesn't matter e.g. ( O(log(n)) ) or if you specify the base

it's also not true not you don't need any other bases. it probably depends in what context you're in, but log with base 2 definitely isn't irrelevant.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 20, 2014, 07:12:11 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on July 20, 2014, 07:14:18 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 20, 2014, 07:26:41 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.

Mm, fair enough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 20, 2014, 08:40:30 pm
In the context of my calculus homework, it would be pretty clear that log means natural log.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 20, 2014, 09:08:50 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.

I've seen several people say this on this forum and I would love to know in what field(s) this is correct.  Is it a mathematician thing, perhaps?  Between degrees in chemistry, chemical engineering, and neuroscience, including two years of physics and two years of calculus, plus a decade and a half of various reading, I have never encountered this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 20, 2014, 09:15:28 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.

I've seen several people say this on this forum and I would love to know in what field(s) this is correct.  Is it a mathematician thing, perhaps?  Between degrees in chemistry, chemical engineering, and neuroscience, including two years of physics and two years of calculus, plus a decade and a half of various reading, I have never encountered this.

I definitely found that when I first learned about logarithms, Log was base 10 and ln base e, but I've increasingly seen log for natural log starting with high school calculus I think. I think it's mostly a mathematician thing, but I feel like I've also seen it in physics, chemistry, and computer science. My favorite is lg for base 2 though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mpsprs on July 20, 2014, 09:29:37 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.

I've seen several people say this on this forum and I would love to know in what field(s) this is correct.  Is it a mathematician thing, perhaps?  Between degrees in chemistry, chemical engineering, and neuroscience, including two years of physics and two years of calculus, plus a decade and a half of various reading, I have never encountered this.

Mathematician here.  When teaching calculus, log to me means base 10, and ln means base e.  Beyond that level, I almost never say "natural log", I just say "log" and hope the listener assumes it's base e.  I still might write ln though (with a cursive l, so it won't look like a 1).

In any case, mostly the constant multiple difference doesn't matter anyway in my experience.  I imagine that would be different as soon as you try to apply it to the "real" world.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 20, 2014, 10:03:24 pm
I imagine that would be different as soon as you try to apply it to the "real" world.

Darned mathematicians.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 20, 2014, 10:05:05 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.

I've seen several people say this on this forum and I would love to know in what field(s) this is correct.  Is it a mathematician thing, perhaps?  Between degrees in chemistry, chemical engineering, and neuroscience, including two years of physics and two years of calculus, plus a decade and a half of various reading, I have never encountered this.

Mathematician here.  When teaching calculus, log to me means base 10, and ln means base e.  Beyond that level, I almost never say "natural log", I just say "log" and hope the listener assumes it's base e.  I still might write ln though (with a cursive l, so it won't look like a 1).

In any case, mostly the constant multiple difference doesn't matter anyway in my experience.  I imagine that would be different as soon as you try to apply it to the "real" world.

Does nobody else pronounce ln as "lawn"?  That's what we always did.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 20, 2014, 10:21:48 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.

I've seen several people say this on this forum and I would love to know in what field(s) this is correct.  Is it a mathematician thing, perhaps?  Between degrees in chemistry, chemical engineering, and neuroscience, including two years of physics and two years of calculus, plus a decade and a half of various reading, I have never encountered this.

Mathematician here.  When teaching calculus, log to me means base 10, and ln means base e.  Beyond that level, I almost never say "natural log", I just say "log" and hope the listener assumes it's base e.  I still might write ln though (with a cursive l, so it won't look like a 1).

In any case, mostly the constant multiple difference doesn't matter anyway in my experience.  I imagine that would be different as soon as you try to apply it to the "real" world.

Does nobody else pronounce ln as "lawn"?  That's what we always did.

Many people I know say "lin" or "el en"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 20, 2014, 11:49:32 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

Depends on the field.

I've seen several people say this on this forum and I would love to know in what field(s) this is correct.  Is it a mathematician thing, perhaps?  Between degrees in chemistry, chemical engineering, and neuroscience, including two years of physics and two years of calculus, plus a decade and a half of various reading, I have never encountered this.

Mathematician here.  When teaching calculus, log to me means base 10, and ln means base e.  Beyond that level, I almost never say "natural log", I just say "log" and hope the listener assumes it's base e.  I still might write ln though (with a cursive l, so it won't look like a 1).

In any case, mostly the constant multiple difference doesn't matter anyway in my experience.  I imagine that would be different as soon as you try to apply it to the "real" world.

Mathematician here.  When teaching calculus, and any math course, and anywhere throughout life, unless you like to measure earthquake intensities, log means base e.

Base 10 is silly.  No one does that.  We write it "log" because we call it "log", because it's the log.  You don't need to specify the base, because of course you're going to use the natural base.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 20, 2014, 11:49:46 pm
I mean.. it's the natural one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 20, 2014, 11:50:56 pm
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.

I'm pretty sure that popular convention says that log(x) is base 10 unless otherwise specified.  That's what I learned, that's what my calculators did, and that's what Google does with their online calculator.

False.  The normal convention is "log(x)" is in base e.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 20, 2014, 11:53:44 pm
but why would you even want to use log for ln? just write ln. it's shorter and cleaner.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 20, 2014, 11:57:17 pm
but why would you even want to use log for ln? just write ln. it's shorter and cleaner.

It's not cleaner.  It's Latin, and doesn't even look right.  You don't see "ln" and say "log", you see "log" and say log.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 20, 2014, 11:57:57 pm
You use "log" because it's short for logarithm.  You don't need to specify a base, because there exists a standard base---base e.

Any different base should be specified.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 12:01:24 am
I mean using "ln" is okay, that's not the point.  The point is that ln = log.

Saying "log(x)" and meaning a base that is not e is misleading and should be avoided.

You're hardly ever going to need base 10 or base 2 or base pi, so in those cases just write log_10(x), log_2(x), log_pi(x).  Easy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on July 21, 2014, 12:02:28 am
That's stupid.  Log should always mean natural log. Other bases are only used for edge cases, and of course they're simply a multiple anyway.
http://youtu.be/RTrAVpK9blw
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 12:16:50 am
I mean using "ln" is okay, that's not the point.  The point is that ln = log.

Saying "log(x)" and meaning a base that is not e is misleading and should be avoided.

You're hardly ever going to need base 10 or base 2 or base pi, so in those cases just write log_10(x), log_2(x), log_pi(x).  Easy.

but that's not true. you need ld. lots of sorting algorithms have ld(n) * n * c
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 21, 2014, 12:19:49 am
Hey mathers, there's a thread about math called the maths thread. Here ya go:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11041.0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 21, 2014, 12:22:04 am
Just to say what I was taught, I was taught that log by itself always means base 10, ln always means base e, and any other base needs to be specified.  (of course, you can say loge)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 21, 2014, 12:23:39 am
Are you all discussing All Your Base?  Or Ace of Base?  That's all I see when you guys talk.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 12:39:18 am
i sit on this dirty floor
a weak mind for a cause
a cause i do not know
don't know what to live for
a compliment i've never heard
it's here even though...
it won't last for long
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 21, 2014, 01:58:55 am
I finally managed to beat the impossible quiz.  Without cheating.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 21, 2014, 02:03:23 am
I successfully got all three gta5 characters over $1.5b using the assassination missions and stock market.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 21, 2014, 02:26:21 am
I successfully got all three gta5 characters over $1.5b using the assassination missions and stock market.

Now you can buy the tow truck company for $150 000 that pays you $150 for every car you deliver.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on July 21, 2014, 04:05:00 am
More on logs:

For mathematicians, writing ln (or worse, trying to pronounce it) is seen as a bit gauche, and tends to get beaten out of you quite early.

but that's not true. you need ld. lots of sorting algorithms have ld(n) * n * c

I saw ld for the very first time recently in a seminar and had to ask what it meant.  I can't have been the only one in that position, as someone else asked exactly the same question 5 minutes later.  Is it mostly a German thing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 21, 2014, 04:11:16 am
In my experience from uni:

Mathematicians and (most) scientists use log to mean natural log
Engineers use log to mean base 10
Programmers and Computer Scientists use log to mean base 2

I don't know about other fields of study, but here in the UK you learn log is base 10 during A level and ln is base e (and most calculators are made the same way)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 21, 2014, 04:22:47 am
To me, log means either the kind Goko sometimes produce (and similar) or a chunk of wood. Depending on the context.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 21, 2014, 04:55:38 am
I've learned that you always have to specify log, and ln is used for natural log.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 21, 2014, 05:55:38 am
I was taught that "ln" (pronounced "el en") was the natural logarithm, and "log" was base 10. I think that's because that's the way it is in Casio calculators.

More on logs:

For mathematicians, writing ln (or worse, trying to pronounce it) is seen as a bit gauche, and tends to get beaten out of you quite early.

I've seen loads of mathematician lecturers write "ln", more than "log" anyway. And do it badly at that ("di"? "10"? "ao"? Dafuq is this guy writing?")
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 21, 2014, 08:38:36 am
In my experience from uni:

Mathematicians and (most) scientists use log to mean natural log
Engineers use log to mean base 10
Programmers and Computer Scientists use log to mean base 2

I don't know about other fields of study, but here in the UK you learn log is base 10 during A level and ln is base e (and most calculators are made the same way)

So basically it sounds like log is a general designation for logarithm that has different default bases depending on the field you're in.

In order to teach the concept, schools start off with base 10, which is reasonable since many students don't even know about the existence of e yet. Once you get into a field that uses logarithms, then people bypass the more wordy "log in base x" and just use "log" with the understanding that your colleague knows that it's in base x. Good to know.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 21, 2014, 09:07:26 am
unless you like to measure earthquake intensities, log means base e.

Base 10 is silly.  No one does that.

Chemist and engineer here.  Besides the Richter scale (on which 2 magnitudes = 1000-fold change):

pH uses common log.
Sound intensity and electrical signal intensity (dB) use common log.
Stellar magnitudes are based on common log (5 magnitudes = 100-fold change).
Neuroscientists express the Nernst equation in terms of the common log for intuition reasons.
Linkage analysis (genetics) expresses LOD scores using common log.
Slide rules (now obsolete, sure, but of historical importance) are based on the common log.

Logarithmic graphs are based on common log, because real-world phenomena that are graphed need to be read by real people who really use base 10 in real life.

Interestingly, the ISO specification is lg(x) for base 10 and ln(x) for base e.

Mathematician here.  When teaching calculus, and any math course, and anywhere throughout life

Conclusion:  Mathematicians are out of touch with how math is actually used throughout life.

And that's fine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 21, 2014, 09:30:01 am
Drew1023 as long as I make a game move every 5 minutes it will give you lots of time to reflect on what a pathetic ***** you are
Drew1023 how about this you are a pathetic piece of trash that spends all day playing an online card game
Drew1023 that's pretty sad
Drew1023 yeah and I am free to remark on just how sad and pathetic it is and that you are wasting limited resources of the earth existing in your sad and pathetic little life
Drew1023 if all you are doing with your pathetic little life is staying in your mommy's basement and playing an online card game than you are not contributing and simply deserve to not live. You are very lucky I don't know where you liv or I'd do the world a favor.

So I play this guy. He's not saying anything. Then after he's been trying to piledrive the Estates for a couple of turns, I connect a King's Court with a Militia and is able to get a Province, he starts to act really funny. And then I realize. I know this guy from somewhere.

Lekkit: Hello.
Lekkit: Enjoy the game.
Lekkit: Sorry for being slow.
[I hit the Province buy]
Drew1023: yeah way to be a lucky little *****
Lekkit: Yup.
Lekkit: That's it. :)
Drew1023: why don't you just sit there for a few minutes and think about what a pathetic little *** you are
Lekkit: Sure thing. I'm at work, so I can do other stuff.
Drew1023: wow you really are ******* lazy aren't you
Drew1023: playing a game at work
Drew1023: pathetic trash like you is why the world is in the shape its in, parents probably never showed you what a good work ethic is
Drew1023: guess I can't really blame you for being the pathetic trash you are
Drew1023: you were just never taught better
Drew1023: here, have this game, its okay. I feel sorry for you now
Lekkit: Thank you very much, sir. :D
Drew1023 has left the game.

For some reason I get overly polite in a mocking manner whenever people start flaming me.

And if you're curious, here's the log for the game.

http://logs.prod.dominion.makingfun.com//20140721/log.512ba416e4b022198f05f8e2.1405948077088.txt
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 21, 2014, 09:47:39 am
I have to apologize guys. When I'm angry at the world for whatever reason, I log into my Drew1023 account at work and yell at people for playing an online card game... that I am also playing. You see, I'm a lazy ***** who plays games at work. I guess I was just never taught better and my parents never showed me what a good work ethic is. I spend the rest of my life in mommy's basement playing this same online card game and I am truly not contributing anything to the world. But you can't blame me for being pathetic trash, I was just never taught better. I wish people would stop being so nice to me when I yell at them on the internet, it makes me feel sorry for them. I simply don't deserve to live but I'm very lucky I don't know where I live, or I'd do the world a favor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 21, 2014, 09:55:27 am
In order to teach the concept, schools start off with base 10, which is reasonable since many students don't even know about the existence of e yet.

My math teacher back in school defined ln as the function whose derivative is 1/x (and, arbitrarily, ln(1) = 0), so the first log I ever knew of was the one in base "e". He then showed that the inverse function of ln was equal to its derivative and defined exp(x) as that function. He only defined "log" in different basis afterwards.

Stories of my lifeTM
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 21, 2014, 10:01:20 am
I pinched off a ln first thing this morning.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 21, 2014, 10:25:44 am
Conclusion:  Mathematicians are out of touch with how math is actually used throughout life.

Oh please.  In any reasonable definition of "real life", logarithms aren't used at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 10:42:40 am
I mean using "ln" is okay, that's not the point.  The point is that ln = log.

Saying "log(x)" and meaning a base that is not e is misleading and should be avoided.

You're hardly ever going to need base 10 or base 2 or base pi, so in those cases just write log_10(x), log_2(x), log_pi(x).  Easy.

but that's not true. you need ld. lots of sorting algorithms have ld(n) * n * c

log_b(x) = log(x)/log(e), so difference is just multiplicative.

But that's not the point.  If log_b = ld, fine, and if log_e = ln, fine.  But e is the standard base and the usual way to define the log function.  So we omit the base, since base e is the way we define everything.  So log
=log_e.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 10:43:54 am
Conclusion:  Mathematicians are out of touch with how math is actually used throughout life.

Oh please.  In any reasonable definition of "real life", logarithms aren't used at all.

I use logs normally.  My life is real.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 10:46:34 am
....

Like I said, bespoke interests.  Not a natural definition at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 10:47:17 am
I mean using "ln" is okay, that's not the point.  The point is that ln = log.

Saying "log(x)" and meaning a base that is not e is misleading and should be avoided.

You're hardly ever going to need base 10 or base 2 or base pi, so in those cases just write log_10(x), log_2(x), log_pi(x).  Easy.

but that's not true. you need ld. lots of sorting algorithms have ld(n) * n * c
I'm right!!!


ftfy
;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 21, 2014, 10:53:55 am
Conclusion:  Mathematicians are out of touch with how math is actually used throughout life.

Oh please.  In any reasonable definition of "real life", logarithms aren't used at all.

I use logs normally.  My life is real.

Nah, it's an approximation quantized to sufficient resolution that you cannot discern the difference.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 21, 2014, 11:05:50 am
....

Like I said, bespoke interests.  Not a natural definition at all.

Ha ha! So the reason that your default is the "natural" default is because you say so. Everybody else's extremely common uses of logarithms are strange edge cases to you. What?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 11:25:10 am
No, it's natural in the sense that y(x) =e^x solves

y' = y

with y(0) = 1
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 11:30:07 am
Whereas y = b^x solves

y' = log(b)*y

with y(0) = 1. 

Which ODE is most natural?  y' = y or y' = log(b)y? 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 11:31:45 am
something different... my ears are itchy, I've been scratching them way too much and they keep getting more itchy. this is bad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 21, 2014, 11:33:21 am
....

Like I said, bespoke interests.  Not a natural definition at all.

Ha ha! So the reason that your default is the "natural" default is because you say so. Everybody else's extremely common uses of logarithms are strange edge cases to you. What?

Using logarithm base 10 is a lot like measuring angles in degrees.  They sync up nicely with conventions that humans hit upon for convenience and are therefore often used when presenting results.  But whether you are a mathematician, engineer, scientist, programmer, or financial analyst you are going to reach for logarithm base e and measure your angles in radians whenever you do any reasonably in depth analysis.  Logarithm base 10 is just too cumbersome.  It's not quite as bad as using Roman numerals over Arabic (Hindu) numerals, but it's still awkward.  (In light of complex analysis, there is a sense in which choosing base e is the same thing as choosing radians)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 21, 2014, 12:02:37 pm
In my experience from uni:

Mathematicians and (most) scientists use log to mean natural log
Engineers use log to mean base 10
Programmers and Computer Scientists use log to mean base 2

I don't know about other fields of study, but here in the UK you learn log is base 10 during A level and ln is base e (and most calculators are made the same way)

So basically it sounds like log is a general designation for logarithm that has different default bases depending on the field you're in.

In order to teach the concept, schools start off with base 10, which is reasonable since many students don't even know about the existence of e yet. Once you get into a field that uses logarithms, then people bypass the more wordy "log in base x" and just use "log" with the understanding that your colleague knows that it's in base x. Good to know.

My textbook was talking about logs for the first time, and it first said you can use any base.  It then instantly proceeded to say that log by itself is base 10, and that ln is base e (and that was the first time it introduced e, saying that it is an important number in calculus).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 21, 2014, 12:22:17 pm
Conclusion:  Mathematicians are out of touch with how math is actually used throughout life.

Oh please.  In any reasonable definition of "real life", logarithms aren't used at all.

Let me rephrase, then.  Among people who use logarithms, use of the base-10 logarithm is more common than use of the natural logarithm.  Or, perhaps:  among people who use scales based on logarithms (pH, dB, O.D., etc) on a regular basis, more use scales based on the common logarithm.

Stated another way:  If you live in a settlement of ~1000 or more, there's a strong chance someone in your town dealt with common logarithms today, either directly or indirectly.

Using logarithm base 10 is a lot like measuring angles in degrees.  They sync up nicely with conventions that humans hit upon for convenience and are therefore often used when presenting results.  But whether you are a mathematician, engineer, scientist, programmer, or financial analyst you are going to reach for logarithm base e and measure your angles in radians whenever you do any reasonably in depth analysis.

I have to strongly disagree.  Engineers don't use radians except for (some) EE's dealing with AC power.  Nobody is going to convert pH measurements into something else, as that would entirely destroy the point of the pH scale.  Obviously I'll spot you mathematicians and financial analysts.

Interestingly, your categorization of people who might use logarithms betrays biases I hadn't really thought of.  The category 'mathematicians' contains an order of magnitude fewer people than the category 'scientists' even when we only include the natural sciences and ignore the social sciences.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 21, 2014, 12:24:01 pm
....

Like I said, bespoke interests.  Not a natural definition at all.

Ha ha! So the reason that your default is the "natural" default is because you say so. Everybody else's extremely common uses of logarithms are strange edge cases to you. What?

No, I think this point should be conceded; I mean, there's a very good reason we call it the 'natural logarithm.'  The number e comes directly from simple mathematical relationships, much as tau does.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 12:39:29 pm
In my experience from uni:

Mathematicians and (most) scientists use log to mean natural log
Engineers use log to mean base 10
Programmers and Computer Scientists use log to mean base 2

I don't know about other fields of study, but here in the UK you learn log is base 10 during A level and ln is base e (and most calculators are made the same way)

So basically it sounds like log is a general designation for logarithm that has different default bases depending on the field you're in.

In order to teach the concept, schools start off with base 10, which is reasonable since many students don't even know about the existence of e yet. Once you get into a field that uses logarithms, then people bypass the more wordy "log in base x" and just use "log" with the understanding that your colleague knows that it's in base x. Good to know.

My textbook was talking about logs for the first time, and it first said you can use any base.  It then instantly proceeded to say that log by itself is base 10, and that ln is base e (and that was the first time it introduced e, saying that it is an important number in calculus).

Most math textbooks will use log for base e once you get past high school/freshman level.  In particular, your ODE and PDE books (Gilbarg and Trudinger, for one example).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 21, 2014, 12:40:43 pm
In my experience from uni:

Mathematicians and (most) scientists use log to mean natural log
Engineers use log to mean base 10
Programmers and Computer Scientists use log to mean base 2

I don't know about other fields of study, but here in the UK you learn log is base 10 during A level and ln is base e (and most calculators are made the same way)

So basically it sounds like log is a general designation for logarithm that has different default bases depending on the field you're in.

In order to teach the concept, schools start off with base 10, which is reasonable since many students don't even know about the existence of e yet. Once you get into a field that uses logarithms, then people bypass the more wordy "log in base x" and just use "log" with the understanding that your colleague knows that it's in base x. Good to know.

My textbook was talking about logs for the first time, and it first said you can use any base.  It then instantly proceeded to say that log by itself is base 10, and that ln is base e (and that was the first time it introduced e, saying that it is an important number in calculus).

Most math textbooks will use log for base e once you get past high school/freshman level.  In particular, your ODE and PDE books (Gilbarg and Trudinger, for one example).

I have a college calculus textbook that goes all the way up through vector calculus, and it uses ln for natural log the whole time (it rarely ever uses the common log).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 12:41:01 pm
Vector calculus is Freshman calculus.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 21, 2014, 12:42:11 pm
Vector calculus is Freshman calculus.

They teach that whole book in freshman year, when my brother took several classes through multiple terms and only got about halfway through the book?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 21, 2014, 12:51:12 pm
Mathematical conventions

[Serious Cat]

Is serious business.


(sorry for the lack of meme, I'm in a hurry)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 01:05:00 pm
Vector calculus is Freshman calculus.

They teach that whole book in freshman year, when my brother took several classes through multiple terms and only got about halfway through the book?

At my school yes.  Plus many students will come in having taken calculus in high school, so "calc 3" will be freshman calc
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 21, 2014, 01:15:26 pm
So far the best argument is the calculator one. Lets be honest, if you're using a tool like a calculator to solve logarithms then you will normally refer to the written form in the same way. Most calculators have ln and log, meaning natural log and common log, respectively.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 21, 2014, 01:20:21 pm
So far the best argument is the calculator one. Lets be honest, if you're using a tool like a calculator to solve logarithms then you will normally refer to the written form in the same way. Most calculators have ln and log, meaning natural log and common log, respectively.

Mathematica uses Log[x ] to mean natural log of x by default and that's the tool I use to do most of my calculating at this point.

Edit: So apparently brackets makes a bullet point. That is not what I meant to do...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 01:30:33 pm
So far the best argument is the calculator one. Lets be honest, if you're using a tool like a calculator to solve logarithms then you will normally refer to the written form in the same way. Most calculators have ln and log, meaning natural log and common log, respectively.

Mathematica uses Log
  • to mean natural log of x by default and that's the tool I use to do most of my calculating at this point.
As does Maple, Matlab, and pretty much every calculation tool.  (http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/log.html for reference)

That log refers to the natural logarithm is the obvious standard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 21, 2014, 01:38:01 pm
So far the best argument is the calculator one. Lets be honest, if you're using a tool like a calculator to solve logarithms then you will normally refer to the written form in the same way. Most calculators have ln and log, meaning natural log and common log, respectively.

Mathematica uses Log
  • to mean natural log of x by default and that's the tool I use to do most of my calculating at this point.
As does Maple, Matlab, and pretty much every calculation tool.  (http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/log.html for reference)

That log refers to the natural logarithm is the obvious standard.

...among people who use Matlab, Maple, and Mathematica.  In other words, among mathematicians.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 01:46:25 pm
Or as I like to call us, "normal people"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 21, 2014, 01:55:03 pm
So far the best argument is the calculator one. Lets be honest, if you're using a tool like a calculator to solve logarithms then you will normally refer to the written form in the same way. Most calculators have ln and log, meaning natural log and common log, respectively.

Mathematica uses Log
  • to mean natural log of x by default and that's the tool I use to do most of my calculating at this point.
As does Maple, Matlab, and pretty much every calculation tool.  (http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/log.html for reference)

That log refers to the natural logarithm is the obvious standard.

...among people who use Matlab, Maple, and Mathematica.  In other words, among mathematicians.

I use Mathematica extensively in all of my science courses. I would actually say that it's less useful for mathematicians because it doesn't do the abstract stuff.

(Note that I'm not necessarily arguing that log should mean one thing or the other. I liked the definition from whoever it was that said that the default meaning depends on the field)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 21, 2014, 01:55:39 pm
I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?

I saw an article that Weird Al apologized for using "spastic" in a song as a derogatory term. I did not realize that it was an offensive word. It makes sense now, but has the offense factor of this word recently escalated?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 21, 2014, 01:58:03 pm
I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?

I saw an article that Weird Al apologized for using "spastic" in a song as a derogatory term. I did not realize that it was an offensive word. It makes sense now, but has the offense factor of this word recently escalated?

For what it's worth, when I heard it in that song, I was surprised. Not personally offended, but surprised. I knew it wasn't politically correct.

EDIT: The Wikipedia article actually talks about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 21, 2014, 01:58:56 pm
I agree let's hear more about Silverspawn's myriad of problems. A plethora, if you will. A cornucopia.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 21, 2014, 02:00:03 pm
I agree let's hear more about Silverspawn's myriad of problems. A plethora, if you will. A cornucopia.

Would you say he has a plethora of problems?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 21, 2014, 02:02:12 pm
I agree let's hear more about Silverspawn's myriad of problems. A plethora, if you will. A cornucopia.

Would you say he has a plethora of problems?

Judging by this:

I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?

Yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 21, 2014, 02:04:51 pm
I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?

I saw an article that Weird Al apologized for using "spastic" in a song as a derogatory term. I did not realize that it was an offensive word. It makes sense now, but has the offense factor of this word recently escalated?

For what it's worth, when I heard it in that song, I was surprised. Not personally offended, but surprised. I knew it wasn't politically correct.

EDIT: The Wikipedia article actually talks about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic)

So it's a US vs UK thing... interesting!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 21, 2014, 02:07:33 pm
I agree let's hear more about Silverspawn's myriad of problems. A plethora, if you will. A cornucopia.

Would you say he has a plethora of problems?

Judging by this:

I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?

Yes.

I was actually referencing a scene from The Three Amigos. I originally posted it here, but unfortunately the non-plethora related parts of the scene won't make much sense if you haven't seen the film.

If you like really ridiculous movies, I recommend it. It has one of my favorite movie villains.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 02:30:24 pm
I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?

 :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 21, 2014, 02:35:01 pm
That's a classic right? I should probably see that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 21, 2014, 02:42:42 pm
That's a classic right? I should probably see that.
Yes, silverspawn's problems are definitely a classic.

By the way, "silverspawn's problems" is a nice tongue twister!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 02:47:11 pm
well i'll definitely remember posting other interesting stuff here when it happens to happen
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 21, 2014, 02:47:51 pm
well i'll definitely remember posting other interesting stuff here when it happens to happen

When it happens to happen by happenstance?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 21, 2014, 02:55:56 pm
I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?

I saw an article that Weird Al apologized for using "spastic" in a song as a derogatory term. I did not realize that it was an offensive word. It makes sense now, but has the offense factor of this word recently escalated?

For what it's worth, when I heard it in that song, I was surprised. Not personally offended, but surprised. I knew it wasn't politically correct.

EDIT: The Wikipedia article actually talks about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic)

So it's a US vs UK thing... interesting!

Yeah, I read an interesting (read: all sorts of flamey) conversation on a public Facebook thread.

I suspect that the people who asked what the big deal was were Americans while the ones who were shouting at the former group were Europeans (or just British maybe).

One woman apparently was so used to it being an offensive term that when a guy asked why the term was offensive, she told him to simply fuck off. She didn't explain the cause of the offense. Apparently in her mind, spastic is a slur that everyone should already be aware of.

I got dinged on a different forum for using "gyp" once. I can see why it would be frowned upon, like welshing on a deal.

So many English words are rooted in pissing someone else off.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 03:05:46 pm
okay how about this. i can write smileys that aren't smileys

:)

i'm so special
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on July 21, 2014, 03:10:20 pm
okay how about this. i can write smileys that aren't smileys

:)

i'm so special

There's a "Don't use smileys" option if you press the "Attachments and other options" dropdown. :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 03:17:26 pm
okay how about this. i can write smileys that aren't smileys

:)

i'm so special

There's a "Don't use smileys" option if you press the "Attachments and other options" dropdown. :)

okay so how about this

:)  :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 21, 2014, 03:20:00 pm
 :) :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 21, 2014, 03:21:29 pm
Silverspawn's problems are boring again.  Let's argue about arcsin versus sin-1
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 21, 2014, 03:22:25 pm
I can write non-smileys that are smileys!

(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on July 21, 2014, 03:22:55 pm
Silverspawn's problems are boring again.  Let's argue about arcsin versus sin-1

Please... No... Not in this thread...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 21, 2014, 03:23:25 pm
Silverspawn's problems are boring again.  Let's argue about arcsin versus sin-1

arcsin 4lyfe.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 03:23:41 pm
Silverspawn's problems are boring again.  Let's argue about arcsin versus sin-1

that's easy, sin^-1 isn't arcsin, it's 1/sin, using it as arcsin is stupid. our physics teacher basically told us that doing it is a crime

:) :)
that works too...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 21, 2014, 03:29:26 pm
Silverspawn's problems are boring again.  Let's argue about arcsin versus sin-1

that's easy, sin^-1 isn't arcsin, it's 1/sin, using it as arcsin is stupid. our physics teacher basically told us that doing it is a crime

:) :)
that works too...

Yea, but why is sin^-1 1/sin? Why is sin^2(x)  the same as sin(x)^2? Wouldn't it make more sense to be consistent with our function notation and say sin^2(x) = sin(sin(x)) and sin^-1(x) = arcsin(x)?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 03:32:53 pm
Quote
Yea, but why is sin^-1 1/sin? Why is sin^2(x)  the same as sin(x)^2? Wouldn't it make more sense to be consistent with our function notation and say sin^2(x) = sin(sin(x)) and sin^-1(x) = arcsin(x)?
....... wow you're right. i've never thought about it that way. ahem. hm. dunno.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 21, 2014, 03:57:37 pm
Now I know, if I want to start a flame war, ask whether log(x) means common log or natural log.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 21, 2014, 04:03:58 pm
Now I know, if I want to start a flame war, ask whether log(x) means common log or natural log.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11524.new#new (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11524.new#new)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on July 21, 2014, 04:06:12 pm
Quote from: Richard Feynman
While I was doing all this trigonometry, I didn't like the symbols for sine, cosine, tangent, and so on. To me, "sin f" looked like s times i times n times f! So I invented another symbol, like a square root sign, that was a sigma with a long arm sticking out of it, and I put the f underneath. For the tangent it was a tau with the top of the tau extended, and for the cosine I made a kind of gamma, but it looked a little bit like the square root sign.
 
Now the inverse sine was the same sigma, but left-to-right reflected so that it started with the horizontal line with the value underneath, and then the sigma. That was the inverse sine, NOT sink f--that was crazy! They had that in books! To me, sin_i meant i/sine, the reciprocal. So my symbols were better.

I didn't like f(x)--that looked to me like f times x. I also didn't like dy/dx--you have a tendency to cancel the d's--so I made a different sign, something like an & sign. For logarithms it was a big L extended to the right, with the thing you take the log of inside, and so on.

I thought my symbols were just as good, if not better, than the regular symbols--it doesn't make any difference what symbols you use--but I discovered later that it does make a difference. Once when I was explaining something to another kid in high school, without thinking I started to make these symbols, and he said, "What the hell are those?" I realized then that if I'm going to talk to anybody else, I'll have to use the standard symbols, so I eventually gave up my own symbols.

Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 21, 2014, 04:26:47 pm
there is a math thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11041.0)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 21, 2014, 04:30:07 pm
Now I know, if I want to start a flame war, ask whether log(x) means common log or natural log.

I can't tell if this is a flame/log pun or not...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 21, 2014, 04:49:58 pm
there is a math thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11041.0)

No, only a "maths" thread. Whatever those are.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on July 21, 2014, 06:23:39 pm
Teach a man guitar and he'll play for a day. Give a man a guitar and today's gonna be the day that they're gonna give it back to you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 21, 2014, 06:26:54 pm
Teach a man guitar and he'll play for a day. Give a man a guitar and today's gonna be the day that they're gonna give it back to you.

Is that... some kind of commentary on Oasis?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on July 21, 2014, 06:35:12 pm
Teach a man guitar and he'll play for a day. Give a man a guitar and today's gonna be the day that they're gonna give it back to you.

Is that... some kind of commentary on Oasis?

+1 Guitar
+1 Concert
+$1bn record deal

Return a Guitar from your hand.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ConMan on July 21, 2014, 08:52:16 pm
I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?
Can we get a ruling on whether it's silver's pawn or silver spawn? I think it's been mentioned but I have a shocking memory.

I saw an article that Weird Al apologized for using "spastic" in a song as a derogatory term. I did not realize that it was an offensive word. It makes sense now, but has the offense factor of this word recently escalated?
It's definitely moving into the territory where it's considered offensive more often than not, I think. I know that it was just a generic insult when I was growing up, but I don't know how much of the change is in society and how much is just me becoming more aware of the context. Also, I heard somewhere that it was considered offensive in the UK first, and that opinion is still gaining traction in the US.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 21, 2014, 08:58:11 pm
I'm bored of this already. Can we get back to Silverspawn's problems?
Can we get a ruling on whether it's silver's pawn or silver spawn? I think it's been mentioned but I have a shocking memory.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10245.msg341335#msg341335
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 21, 2014, 11:15:00 pm
Fine, no math.

Grand Unified Theories.  Yea or nay?  They certainly seem beautiful at first glance, but you need so many Higgs fields to break all that symmetry.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 21, 2014, 11:37:17 pm
Coffee, anyone?  I'm a big fan.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on July 22, 2014, 12:07:55 am
Coffee, anyone?  I'm a big fan.

I haven't ever had coffee before, so I don't know. I don't really want to ever drink non-decaf coffee because like all of the adults I know suffer minor withdrawal symptoms if they don't get coffee, and that sounds like no fun at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 22, 2014, 12:26:18 am
I'm one of those adults that finds coffee gross. I also highly dislike beer and cola/soda/pop/coke.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 22, 2014, 12:37:42 am
I like coffee a lot, although today I went to a coffee shop which called Philz which was a tad snobbish for my tastes.  The coffee was admittedly quite good, but I went primarily for the vegan donuts they carry.

I'm much more into beer.  I brewed ten gallons of beer last month (red ale and ipa) and they just went into the keg this past weekend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 22, 2014, 12:48:44 am
I am a supertaster.  Bitter is bad.  No coffee for me, or beer.  (Ignoring the fact that I can't use alcohol or caffeine for medical reasons)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 22, 2014, 02:02:37 am
Fine, no math.

Grand Unified Theories.  Yea or nay?  They certainly seem beautiful at first glance, but you need so many Higgs fields to break all that symmetry.

I would just say yay because I feel like the universe should have relatively simple rules behind it.  I don't know too much about physics at that level (it's what I want to get in to in college).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 22, 2014, 03:06:10 am
The only beer I've had so far is Trappistes Rochefort 10, which was delicious. Coffee is fine as long as you don't ruin it with milk. But I'm mostly a tea person.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 22, 2014, 08:49:46 am
Fine, no math.

Grand Unified Theories.  Yea or nay?  They certainly seem beautiful at first glance, but you need so many Higgs fields to break all that symmetry.

I can confidently say I don't know nearly enough about particle physics and high temperature physics to have an opinion one way or another.

I will suggest, however, that not all natural processes end up with simple, beautiful equations.  Maxwell's Equations would be a lot simpler in such a universe; so would the Navier-Stokes equations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 22, 2014, 11:10:13 am
Fine, no math.

Grand Unified Theories.  Yea or nay?  They certainly seem beautiful at first glance, but you need so many Higgs fields to break all that symmetry.

I can confidently say I don't know nearly enough about particle physics and high temperature physics to have an opinion one way or another.

I will suggest, however, that not all natural processes end up with simple, beautiful equations.  Maxwell's Equations would be a lot simpler in such a universe; so would the Navier-Stokes equations.

I won't speak to Navier-Stokes, but Maxwell's equations are gorgeous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 22, 2014, 11:34:14 am
Fine, no math.

Grand Unified Theories.  Yea or nay?  They certainly seem beautiful at first glance, but you need so many Higgs fields to break all that symmetry.

I can confidently say I don't know nearly enough about particle physics and high temperature physics to have an opinion one way or another.

I will suggest, however, that not all natural processes end up with simple, beautiful equations.  Maxwell's Equations would be a lot simpler in such a universe; so would the Navier-Stokes equations.

I won't speak to Navier-Stokes, but Maxwell's equations are gorgeous.
Ugh... Navier-Stokes... I remember they were a pain, but as I recall very cool at the same time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 22, 2014, 01:20:55 pm
Fine, no math.

Grand Unified Theories.  Yea or nay?  They certainly seem beautiful at first glance, but you need so many Higgs fields to break all that symmetry.

I can confidently say I don't know nearly enough about particle physics and high temperature physics to have an opinion one way or another.

I will suggest, however, that not all natural processes end up with simple, beautiful equations.  Maxwell's Equations would be a lot simpler in such a universe; so would the Navier-Stokes equations.

I won't speak to Navier-Stokes, but Maxwell's equations are gorgeous.

Especially if you include magnetic monopoles!

Navier-Stokes is a different case I think. It's an equation for (relatively) macroscopic phenomena, not a description of fundamental physics. The macro force ones often look pretty gross once you start generalizing away from your simplifying assumptions. Just look at damped driven oscillators. Ugh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 22, 2014, 01:23:47 pm
And what better way to get magnetic monopoles than grand unified theories?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 23, 2014, 12:10:48 am
I brewed ten gallons of beer with a buddy and we just tapped the keg a couple hours ago.  It is so good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 23, 2014, 01:32:49 pm
today is a bad day...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 23, 2014, 01:37:55 pm
today is a bad day...

SirPeebles has extra beer
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 23, 2014, 01:50:07 pm
today is a bad day...

Incorrect, Today is the greatest day I've ever known. Can't live for tomorrow, tomorrow's much too long. I'll burn my eyes out before I get out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 23, 2014, 02:01:56 pm
It's about as good as all the other days happening at the same time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 23, 2014, 02:07:30 pm
Guys, you asked to hear about Silverspawn's problems! Now he's here to tell you, but you're just trying to motivate him! I thought better of you people.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on July 23, 2014, 02:45:46 pm
Apparently you thought the song was uplifting? Cut much?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 23, 2014, 08:54:23 pm
When you talk about the measurements of an open-top box, do you think it's more natural to use height or depth?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 23, 2014, 09:16:02 pm
When you talk about the measurements of an open-top box, do you think it's more natural to use height or depth?
As an engineer...

Depends on the process used to create said box.  If it is formed out of sheet metal, I'd say depth.  If it was bent out of sheet metal, I'd say height.  Really, it depends on which feature on the box you are talking about.  When you bend the box out of sheet metal, you would be bending the sides up and would be concerned about the height of the walls when you are forming (that's when you have the sheet then push on the center and guide it into the shape you want.  I can't explain it well, so here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JZ3lRNGvdQ) is a video example) you are more concerned with the depth of the cavity.  So if you're talking about the walls of the box, height; the cavity, then depth
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 23, 2014, 09:24:30 pm
When you talk about the measurements of an open-top box, do you think it's more natural to use height or depth?

I would say height.  Depth, to me, is reserved for (1) things below a surface or (2) wall-to-front distance of an appliance/cabinet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 24, 2014, 05:12:39 am
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 24, 2014, 07:49:12 am
When you talk about the measurements of an open-top box, do you think it's more natural to use height or depth?

I would say height.  Depth, to me, is reserved for (1) things below a surface or (2) wall-to-front distance of an appliance/cabinet.
Ah but depending on the method used to create said box, it could be referred to distance below a surface
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 24, 2014, 11:35:46 am
So, hypothetically, if I hit the side of my head against something really hard, say, I don't know, some large bone belonging to another person, how long should it stay swollen and hurt before I start to worry?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 24, 2014, 11:36:37 am
When you talk about the measurements of an open-top box, do you think it's more natural to use height or depth?

If the "top" is along the z-axis (facing "up"), the "height".  If the "top" is along the x-axis (facing you), then "depth".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 24, 2014, 11:42:11 am
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 24, 2014, 11:49:09 am
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
because firefox is better?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 24, 2014, 11:50:40 am
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
because firefox is better?

But Chrome is better?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 24, 2014, 11:51:22 am
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
because firefox is better?

But Chrome is better?

but it isn't
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on July 24, 2014, 12:03:01 pm
Netscape4lyfe
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 24, 2014, 12:06:29 pm
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
I'm seriously considering switching off chrome. Sure, it's fast, but it uses all my computer's limited resources
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 24, 2014, 12:30:00 pm
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
I'm seriously considering switching off chrome. Sure, it's fast, but it uses all my computer's limited resources

Does it? Is it running lots of background stuff?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 24, 2014, 12:42:50 pm
So, hypothetically, if I hit the side of my head against something really hard, say, I don't know, some large bone belonging to another person, how long should it stay swollen and hurt before I start to worry?

Note: IANAD

24 hours, I'd say.  Unless you're experiencing obvious neurological symptoms in addition to the swelling, e.g., dizziness, concentration difficulty, blurred vision, etc.  In which case go NOW.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 24, 2014, 12:49:43 pm
So, hypothetically, if I hit the side of my head against something really hard, say, I don't know, some large bone belonging to another person, how long should it stay swollen and hurt before I start to worry?

Note: IANAD

24 hours, I'd say.  Unless you're experiencing obvious neurological symptoms in addition to the swelling, e.g., dizziness, concentration difficulty, blurred vision, etc.  In which case go NOW.

So if it was on Sunday, that's not so hot?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on July 24, 2014, 12:57:38 pm
Note: IANAD

It always amused me when someone would give legal advice online and post IANAL. It's the little, perverted boy in me.

Sometimes I love acronyms too much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 24, 2014, 01:19:59 pm
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
I'm seriously considering switching off chrome. Sure, it's fast, but it uses all my computer's limited resources

Does it? Is it running lots of background stuff?

Well, looking in the Task Manager, it has ten different processes going for some reason.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 24, 2014, 01:25:43 pm
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
I am using Chrome for some stuff (whenever the compatibility issues are a problem). But it just isn't even nearly as good as Opera 12 for regular use. I also use Firefox for stuff that requires add-ons that are only available for Firefox, and sometimes TOR Browser for certain reasons. I also have the new Opera, but I don't use it, it's a lot worse than 12.

Right now I have two different browsers open.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 24, 2014, 02:26:55 pm
I just had a pop-up ad telling me that my browser is outdated so it couldn't display the content. Opera 12 ftw!

Why everyone isn't just using chrome is beyond me.
I'm seriously considering switching off chrome. Sure, it's fast, but it uses all my computer's limited resources

Does it? Is it running lots of background stuff?

Well, looking in the Task Manager, it has ten different processes going for some reason.
This is why. Whenever you create a new tab, it opens a completely new process. Which is how chrome is so fast.

Im considering switching to opera, but the main thing keeping me from that is I need to find ad block...

As far as head injuries: I had a concussion once and the doctor said that throwing up is OK if it's right after the accident, but if it's more than like 30minutes later, then it's a problem. I don't know if that applies to other symptoms, but I would probably see a doctor if I were you...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on July 24, 2014, 04:24:59 pm
I use Chrome almost exclusively; however, it is pretty taxing on resources. My computer's relatively strong, but it does cause some problems when I am gaming + having a ton of tabs up. My brother uses Comodo, but moreso so Google can't track everything about him. It's very similar to Chrome since it uses the same opensource base I think. I don't care for it myself, but he loves it.

lol. I actually just decided to download opera and try using it right now. So far, it seems pretty cool.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 24, 2014, 04:29:54 pm
I did not know that about chrome. Is it configurable, so you can decide when to start a new process and when to not? How resource intensive is it?

I've been a firefox user since around 8th grade, I think, when ie had a major security breach, and then I never went back (for obvious reasons).

My new computer is pretty powerful though, so maybe a faster, more resource-intensive browser is the way to go.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 24, 2014, 05:00:25 pm
i didn't know it about chrome either, but it really fits google to do something like that
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 24, 2014, 09:20:02 pm
How resource intensive is it?  well, I have 4 tabs open, so you tell me
(http://i.imgur.com/keJYABW.png)
And I don't have a beefy computer.  I'm stuck with the free one my school gave me.  I mean, I'm not complaining, it's free.  But it also can't handle a ton
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 24, 2014, 09:24:52 pm
I believe Chrome also has seperate processes for each plug-in and extension, and one for the renderer as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 24, 2014, 09:27:02 pm
For Ozle: http://terriblerealestateagentphotos.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 24, 2014, 10:19:05 pm
How resource intensive is it?  well, I have 4 tabs open, so you tell me
(http://i.imgur.com/keJYABW.png)
And I don't have a beefy computer.  I'm stuck with the free one my school gave me.  I mean, I'm not complaining, it's free.  But it also can't handle a ton

To be fair to Chrome here, my Firefox is currently using more memory than that, even though it just shows up as one process.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on July 24, 2014, 10:28:11 pm
How resource intensive is it?  well, I have 4 tabs open, so you tell me
(picture)
And I don't have a beefy computer.  I'm stuck with the free one my school gave me.  I mean, I'm not complaining, it's free.  But it also can't handle a ton

To be fair to Chrome here, my Firefox is currently using more memory than that, even though it just shows up as one process.
Huh.  Didn't realize that, but maybe all this does have more to do with the plugins installed?  I don't know.  I just know my computer's fan runs all the time, which happens when it's being taxed and the only thing I almost always have up is chrome.  Closing chrome usually turns the fan off.  Also, I know I do need to get the fan blown out...  Maybe that will improve my results more
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 25, 2014, 12:52:58 am
How resource intensive is it?  well, I have 4 tabs open, so you tell me
(picture)
And I don't have a beefy computer.  I'm stuck with the free one my school gave me.  I mean, I'm not complaining, it's free.  But it also can't handle a ton

To be fair to Chrome here, my Firefox is currently using more memory than that, even though it just shows up as one process.
Huh.  Didn't realize that, but maybe all this does have more to do with the plugins installed?  I don't know.  I just know my computer's fan runs all the time, which happens when it's being taxed and the only thing I almost always have up is chrome.  Closing chrome usually turns the fan off.  Also, I know I do need to get the fan blown out...  Maybe that will improve my results more

Depends how old your computer is. Chrome never uses this much for me, but my old computer had the fan going when I used a browser.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 25, 2014, 07:49:53 pm
i just had a game with fv and rabble and BoM. my op randomly imitated a pirate ship with his BoM, even though I hadn't bought a single silver (and he had no way of knowing what to hit). he ended up hitting 2 action cards and hurting me, but it would've helped me a lot on average.

after that we talked

silverspawn ahm
silverspawn the only treasure card you could have hit was copper
silverspawn and if you did you wouldve helped me a lot
skilledyou ???
silverspawn wiht pirate ship
skilledyou and it would not have helped me
skilledyou the only one
silverspawn no
skilledyou u hgot 7
skilledyou lol
silverspawn yea and trashing one means i have one less junk card
skilledyou sure
skilledyou and ?
skilledyou lol\
silverspawn so you helped me
silverspawn or you would have
silverspawn its not a good idea to help your opponent in dominion
skilledyou k thx to let me know
skilledyou i didnt knew
skilledyou lol
silverspawn well why did you did it then
skilledyou that
skilledyou was ironic
skilledyou i know exactly what i been doing
skilledyou and i will do it again
skilledyou if i need to
silverspawn helping me by trying to trash coppers?
skilledyou omg
skilledyou if i want to trasah
skilledyou all your copper
skilledyou awith shi
skilledyou p
skilledyou can i ?
silverspawn no
skilledyou is it allowwed or not
skilledyou ok good to know
silverspawn yes
silverspawn it is
skilledyou then next time
silverspawn but
skilledyou put on yyour game
silverspawn you cant realistically make it
silverspawn ????
skilledyou not allowed to trash copper
skilledyou iwth ship
silverspawn you are allowed
silverspawn but you wont get enough to make it worth it
skilledyou lol
skilledyou yesd obv
skilledyou if i already missed the frist time i did it
skilledyou lol
silverspawn yes so why did you do it?
silverspawn i really wanna know
skilledyou i am talking
skilledyou thx
skilledyou done
skilledyou i mean
*** skilledyou has left the game.

can someone explain this to me?  ??? i have no idea what he was trying to say
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 25, 2014, 08:03:59 pm

It looks to me as if he didn't really like you giving him the advice that you gave.  And then got defensive about it and left.  I wouldn't read too much into it.  Maybe he thought you were being rude and criticizing him.  I know I am always up for advice on how I played poorly or should have done something different, but that is not always the case with everyone.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 25, 2014, 08:55:26 pm
while we're at the topic: how much advise should you give others? it seems like a waste not to say something if your op is doing an obvious mistake, but it's also kind of weird to just give advise out of nowhere. you could ask "should i tell you something you did wrong", but that sounds kind of arrogant. what I'm currently doing is basically say something if it was an incredibly obvious mistake, like the pirate thing, and otherwise keep quiet. but I haven't really figured it out yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 25, 2014, 09:10:44 pm
while we're at the topic: how much advise should you give others? it seems like a waste not to say something if your op is doing an obvious mistake, but it's also kind of weird to just give advise out of nowhere. you could ask "should i tell you something you did wrong", but that sounds kind of arrogant. what I'm currently doing is basically say something if it was an incredibly obvious mistake, like the pirate thing, and otherwise keep quiet. but I haven't really figured it out yet.

You could ask, "Do you want some advice?"  It doesn't sound as arrogant.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on July 25, 2014, 09:22:20 pm
I've had games where I gave advice, and they reply by complaining that they had bad luck, implying that it was luck alone that mattered. Sure, could be true, but you don't have a good sense of your opponent's luck a lot of the time so it seems counterproductive...if you're at the level where you notice when your opponent is getting an unlucky shuffle you probably already know that there are things you could have done better no matter what the luck is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 26, 2014, 02:49:10 am
I generally only discuss/give strategy advice to people from f.ds. Then again, I've played very little outside of GokoDom/League matches in the past year. It might be better to word things as a question, like "Why'd you choose to use BoM as Pirate Ship there?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 26, 2014, 04:54:09 am
It's happening. Soon we will all get banned.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2737
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 26, 2014, 09:24:25 am
It's happening. Soon we will all get banned.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2737

Ha yes!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 26, 2014, 09:28:50 am
while we're at the topic: how much advise should you give others? it seems like a waste not to say something if your op is doing an obvious mistake, but it's also kind of weird to just give advise out of nowhere. you could ask "should i tell you something you did wrong", but that sounds kind of arrogant. what I'm currently doing is basically say something if it was an incredibly obvious mistake, like the pirate thing, and otherwise keep quiet. but I haven't really figured it out yet.

You could ask, "Do you want some advice?"  It doesn't sound as arrogant.
And then you can discard their best card.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 26, 2014, 09:30:48 am
while we're at the topic: how much advise should you give others? it seems like a waste not to say something if your op is doing an obvious mistake, but it's also kind of weird to just give advise out of nowhere. you could ask "should i tell you something you did wrong", but that sounds kind of arrogant. what I'm currently doing is basically say something if it was an incredibly obvious mistake, like the pirate thing, and otherwise keep quiet. but I haven't really figured it out yet.

You could ask, "Do you want some advice?"  It doesn't sound as arrogant.

I agree with this. Some people can't take critisizm of any kind. I know you're trying to help but really it's better just to say nothing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jsh357 on July 26, 2014, 10:24:00 am
Pretty much every time I offer someone advice (or even say anything) they get salty about it, so I just don't even talk in games anymore unless they talk first.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 26, 2014, 11:31:58 am
I present it like "gg, not sure the whole ship thing was worth it." This way it puts it up for debat, and not me telling them why they suck. They can defend their play, and can say why I think it wasn't a goo play.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 26, 2014, 11:38:22 am
It's happening. Soon we will all get banned.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2737

Ha yes!

 :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 26, 2014, 01:06:42 pm
It's happening. Soon we will all get banned.

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2737

Ha yes!

I wish that was me, but it's better if theory made that account.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 05:07:36 pm
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 26, 2014, 05:25:57 pm
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?

Gameplay, but this it tied very much to the maps and levels. I don't know if you played Dishonored, but that game would be terrible if the maps were not as good as they are. Story is secondary and in fact, the only game ever to have a good story is Bioshock: Infinite. And by good story I mean one that is good for something other than a video game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 26, 2014, 05:32:52 pm
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?
Hmm, I look for games that excel in multiple aspects (not necessarily the same ones each time), so I guess that translates to overall good "production values".

However, good gameplay is essential, and smooth flow and UI are great for not getting frustrated. I remember the teacher's assistant for my intro to game dev course emphasized replayability. Replay value is big as well. Variety and viable different game paths are neat too.

Innovative mechanics and amazingly original storylines are not nessecarily needed to make a great game.

Take all that together, you get something like League of Legends. Nothing really original there, and not much variety in level design. That doesn't stop it from being immensely addictive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 26, 2014, 05:34:13 pm
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?

Gameplay, but this it tied very much to the maps and levels. I don't know if you played Dishonored, but that game would be terrible if the maps were not as good as they are. Story is secondary and in fact, the only game ever to have a good story is Bioshock: Infinite. And by good story I mean one that is good for something other than a video game.
I guess it depends on the genre too. Good map design is a must for First-person shooters. Good enemy arrangement is a big deal for side-scrolling shooters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 05:59:29 pm
By map design, I mean purely aesthetic design.  Map design-for-gameplay is more related to gameplay.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 26, 2014, 06:15:50 pm
It depends not only on the genre, but on what I'm expecting out of the game.  If I'm looking for a gorgeous, cinematic storytelling experience, I'd be more willing to forgive a slightly clunky UI.  If I'm interested in a FPS, I'm probably more concerned about the gameplay and the online multiplayer features than the plot of the single player campaign.  But of course there are also "FPS" games that are more about story than PvP action, like Bioshock.

So it really depends on what the game developer is trying to deliver on, and what I am expecting based on the publicity around the game.

A similar thing can be said about board games.  I enjoy Betrayal at House on the Hill for a vastly different reason than I do Dominion or Keyflower or Eclipse.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jsh357 on July 26, 2014, 07:32:25 pm
Aesthetics (particularly atmosphere, but good design and good music are also important)
Competent structure & design that suits the game
Appropriate writing, pacing, and possible twists I'm not expecting in the story
Depth of gameplay, usually some variable quality of the game that makes it worth replaying.  (Doesn't apply to adventure games, VNs, etc)

It does depend on the genre, but these are the four elements I rate a game based on in my spreadsheets.

A game that illustrates each of these well: Art: Majora's Mask, Structure: Thief 2, Writing: Ghost Trick, Depth: Demon's Souls
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 08:12:01 pm
I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 26, 2014, 08:27:30 pm
I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

whenever you post serious posts I can't take you seriously because of your avatar :c
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jsh357 on July 26, 2014, 08:27:57 pm
I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

Well, I think in those types of games having an appropriate art style that draws in the target audience really helps.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 09:27:09 pm
I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

whenever you post serious posts I can't take you seriously because of your avatar :c

What's so silly about it?  It's either just some weird thing (read: everybody's avatar), or you know what it is and it's amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 26, 2014, 09:40:37 pm
(http://s1.directupload.net/images/140727/yg4ax795.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 09:58:21 pm
(http://s1.directupload.net/images/140727/yg4ax795.png)

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 26, 2014, 10:24:18 pm
Saw Queen tonight, and of course they were amazing.  But Adam Lambert. wow.  That dude is good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 26, 2014, 10:27:00 pm
(http://s1.directupload.net/images/140727/yg4ax795.png)

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.

I've watched your linked video a while ago, but I don't think it changes much, in fact I don't think knowing where it comes from matters for me in general. i'll always associate your avatar with humor and funny stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 10:28:28 pm
(http://s1.directupload.net/images/140727/yg4ax795.png)

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.

I've watched your linked video a while ago, but I don't think it changes much, in fact I don't think knowing where it comes from matters for me in general. i'll always associate your avatar with humor and funny stuff.

If you just saw the link, then I could see why you would associate my avatar with humor and funny stuff.  You would have to watch the whole show to see why it's so amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on July 26, 2014, 10:47:20 pm
RSPA

Religion, Sex, Politics, and Avatarism.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 26, 2014, 11:01:13 pm
I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.
Intuitive controls, and after that, interesting puzzles and a low enough learning curve.

If you just saw the link, then I could see why you would associate my avatar with humor and funny stuff.  You would have to watch the whole show to see why it's so amazing.
Just the first season though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Polk5440 on July 26, 2014, 11:03:33 pm
(http://s1.directupload.net/images/140727/yg4ax795.png)

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.

My avatar is downright awesome. I don't know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 11:08:09 pm
I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.
Intuitive controls, and after that, interesting puzzles and a low enough learning curve.

If you just saw the link, then I could see why you would associate my avatar with humor and funny stuff.  You would have to watch the whole show to see why it's so amazing.
Just the first season though.

Noooooooooooooooooooo the second season is an infinite amount of times better than the first (while the first is still good).

(Note: I know we've had this conversation before, so I'm not going to bother replying if you reply)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 26, 2014, 11:25:58 pm
well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 11:46:51 pm
well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 26, 2014, 11:47:17 pm
well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

And, the second season is what makes them really amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on July 27, 2014, 12:15:51 am
well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

Really?  I thought the dub was actually pretty good for the most part.  There are a few characters with annoying voices (Tomoyo, but I don't like her as a character anyway, and Sunohara, but his super-annoying voice fits his character really well I think, probably a couple others I'm forgetting).  But the most important characters' voices are great I think.

I agree it takes a few episodes to get into, and also that the After Story is 330214284 times better than the first series.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on July 27, 2014, 12:18:16 am
well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

Really?  I thought the dub was actually pretty good for the most part.  There are a few characters with annoying voices (Tomoyo, but I don't like her as a character anyway, and Sunohara, but his super-annoying voice fits his character really well I think, probably a couple others I'm forgetting).  But the most important characters' voices are great I think.

I agree it takes a few episodes to get into, and also that the After Story is 330214284 times better than the first series.

It doesn't really matter, I watch everything in its original language if possible.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on July 27, 2014, 12:24:21 am
I didn't like how season 1 of Clannad really feels like they took a bunch of paths from the VN and tried to mush it together into one series. I haven't played the VN, but that's what it feels like. Some of the arcs were nice - some felt like they were just there.

Season 2 is definitely better though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 27, 2014, 12:28:15 am
well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

Really?  I thought the dub was actually pretty good for the most part.  There are a few characters with annoying voices (Tomoyo, but I don't like her as a character anyway, and Sunohara, but his super-annoying voice fits his character really well I think, probably a couple others I'm forgetting).  But the most important characters' voices are great I think.

I feel like some of the voices were mediocre, and some of them were horrible.  I actually don't remember Tomoyo's (I might just not have ever heard it, my brother was just showing me a few of the character's voices).  My biggest gripe is actually Sunohara, his voice in the original sounds like "I'm trying to sound really cool but failing horribly and am actually really lame," while his voice in the dub sounds more like "I'm really lame."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 27, 2014, 12:50:27 am
I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

whenever you post serious posts I can't take you seriously because of your avatar :c

"I can't take you seriously because of your avatar."
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                                                              (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/useravs/avatar_2321_1389965043.png)



(I have no problem taking either of you seriously.  I'm just commenting on the irony!)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 27, 2014, 01:14:46 am
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?
It's hard to say. If you can figure out what (Group A) games do well, and (Group B) do poorly, then you may decipher what I look for in a video game.

Group A - Perfect Dark, Fallout 3, Portal, Skyrim, Dead Space, (GTA V)

Group B - Call of Duty, Halo, Dark Souls, Crackdown, GTA 3, Smash Bros

I haven't figured out a pattern yet.

I also didn't include PC games which is basically RCT & AoE vs everything else.

I do know that I immensely dislike online multiplayer anything. I will do split screen or LAN parties, but never like playing online. (I actually dislike Dominion online quite a bit as well.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on July 27, 2014, 02:34:35 am
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?
It's hard to say. If you can figure out what (Group A) games do well, and (Group B) do poorly, then you may decipher what I look for in a video game.

Group A - Perfect Dark, Fallout 3, Portal, Skyrim, Dead Space, (GTA V)

Group B - Call of Duty, Halo, Dark Souls, Crackdown, GTA 3, Smash Bros

I haven't figured out a pattern yet.

I also didn't include PC games which is basically RCT & AoE vs everything else.

I do know that I immensely dislike online multiplayer anything. I will do split screen or LAN parties, but never like playing online. (I actually dislike Dominion online quite a bit as well.)

Group A feels like a more immersive set, where atmosphere and back story in the game is important. Group B seems more gameplay focused - who the hell cares about the plot for CoD, you're here for the FPS.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 27, 2014, 08:39:30 am
well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

And, the second season is what makes them really amazing.
After Story is the most boring thing by Kyoto Animation ever. And I watched every single episode of Endless Eight. It is not recommended to expect too much of it, but the first season is definitely worth watching.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 27, 2014, 10:24:18 am
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?

I may or may not be your target audience for this question... but I'll take a swing.

I play mostly strategy games.  The last ground FPS I played was GoldenEye on N64... so nearly 20 years ago.  I do enjoy space FPS; Freespace 2 is still one of my favorites, and I'm still salivating over Star Citizen.  But most of my game play is either Grand Strategy (4X), RTS (this includes TD games), and Puzzle... which is a very broad category that includes Roguelikes, Engineering games (Spacechem), Portal, and even KOL, which is a social optimization game.

The main feature that connects these is gameplay, which necessarily includes level design.  But nethack, KOL, Spacechem, and Civ 5 almost entirely ignore aesthetics and story in favor of gameplay, complexity, and in the case of KOL silly puns and pop culture references.

Similarly, I don't give a damn about the art in Dominion, Hearthstone, MTG, or any other physical game, as long as the art doesn't interfere with gameplay.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on July 27, 2014, 10:49:35 am
The last ground FPS I played was GoldenEye on N64... so nearly 20 years ago.

That wasn't ... crap. I feel old now. 1997 was 17 years ago.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 27, 2014, 12:08:21 pm
The last ground FPS I played was GoldenEye on N64... so nearly 20 years ago.

That wasn't ... crap. I feel old now. 1997 was 17 years ago.

The last I played was Halo. I recently got an N64 and Goldeneye and wow... it's not as good as I remembered.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on July 27, 2014, 12:18:26 pm
Really? I still enjoy playing it. Perfect Dark is the better game, but I still play GE007.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 27, 2014, 12:21:10 pm
The last ground FPS I played was GoldenEye on N64... so nearly 20 years ago.

That wasn't ... crap. I feel old now. 1997 was 17 years ago.

The last I played was Halo. I recently got an N64 and Goldeneye and wow... it's not as good as I remembered.
To this day, I'd willing to replay the single player campaign. In case you're not aware, Perfect Dark for N64 is VERY similar to GoldenEye except it plays a lot smoother and features more dialog. Even the time-attack based unlocks follow the same difficulty pattern (med-hard-easy-med-hard-easy-etc).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 27, 2014, 12:33:16 pm
GoldenEye was the first FPS to introduce multiplayer on a split screen.  That was a huge thing that meant we could overlook the awful graphics and mediocre gameplay.
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Post by: markusin on July 27, 2014, 12:34:15 pm
Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?

I may or may not be your target audience for this question... but I'll take a swing.

I play mostly strategy games.  The last ground FPS I played was GoldenEye on N64... so nearly 20 years ago.  I do enjoy space FPS; Freespace 2 is still one of my favorites, and I'm still salivating over Star Citizen.  But most of my game play is either Grand Strategy (4X), RTS (this includes TD games), and Puzzle... which is a very broad category that includes Roguelikes, Engineering games (Spacechem), Portal, and even KOL, which is a social optimization game.

The main feature that connects these is gameplay, which necessarily includes level design.  But nethack, KOL, Spacechem, and Civ 5 almost entirely ignore aesthetics and story in favor of gameplay, complexity, and in the case of KOL silly puns and pop culture references.

Similarly, I don't give a damn about the art in Dominion, Hearthstone, MTG, or any other physical game, as long as the art doesn't interfere with gameplay.
It's strange. I always thought of myself as not caring about graphics, but there are some games where they really help with immersiveness. I would like to add that any RPG style game should have good map design. Dull map design is one of the things that ruined Xenogears for me, along with very slow scrolling dialog that as far as I know can't be sped up.

I don't care much for the art in strategy heavy games (like the Civilization series). In fact, strategy games like Chess and Stratego (and Dominion) are usually analysed at the most abstract level. Puzzle games too. For what it's worth, I really enjoy the light-hearthed self-mocking humour of Hearthstone, where even the most terrifying Warcraft creatures get humourous flavour text.

On a side note, I believe ideas for stories and game concepts are best sought from beyond the world of video games, but ideas on how to refineme gameplay and UI come from playing lots of games yourself. A couple lines of code worth on changes can go a long way to improving the game experience.

Parting words of inspiration: Flappy Bird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on July 27, 2014, 12:35:39 pm
GoldenEye was the first FPS to introduce multiplayer on a split screen.  That was a huge thing that meant we could overlook the awful graphics and mediocre gameplay.
Graphics and overall gameplay are where I feel Perfect Dark improves on the recipe formulated by GE007.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 27, 2014, 12:54:26 pm
The last FPS I played was the new Wolfenstein, but I dropped it pretty soon because it didn't run on my computer as smoothly as it should have, for some reason. The one before that was Crysis. Usually I prefer 2D shooters; Netmatch, for instance, is a wonderful game. Too bad nobody plays it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 27, 2014, 01:36:41 pm
You guys are all forgetting about the greatest game ever:  FIFA
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Post by: sudgy on July 27, 2014, 04:04:34 pm
A couple lines of code worth on changes can go a long way to improving the game experience.

Or, in my case, a bajillion lines of code...  My brother uses RPG Maker to make the game (it isn't RPG though), and he doesn't know how to program, so when it comes to the extra programming, I have to do it all, and there's a lot he wants me to do...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 27, 2014, 04:17:02 pm
A couple lines of code worth on changes can go a long way to improving the game experience.

Or, in my case, a bajillion lines of code...  My brother uses RPG Maker to make the game (it isn't RPG though), and he doesn't know how to program, so when it comes to the extra programming, I have to do it all, and there's a lot he wants me to do...
Why would you use RPG Maker for anything that isn't an RPG? I think it would probably be easier to just learn how to program with a simple language that's designed for game creation, or Game Maker if programming is out of the question.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 27, 2014, 04:24:21 pm
A couple lines of code worth on changes can go a long way to improving the game experience.

Or, in my case, a bajillion lines of code...  My brother uses RPG Maker to make the game (it isn't RPG though), and he doesn't know how to program, so when it comes to the extra programming, I have to do it all, and there's a lot he wants me to do...
Why would you use RPG Maker for anything that isn't an RPG? I think it would probably be easier to just learn how to program with a simple language that's designed for game creation, or Game Maker if programming is out of the question.

It originally was an RPG, but he didn't like the battle system so he dropped it.  He likes the interface, and doesn't like programming.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on July 27, 2014, 04:26:36 pm
doesn't like programming.
Is this even possible?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 27, 2014, 05:14:23 pm
You guys are all forgetting about the greatest game ever:  FIFA

You mean Baseball Stars, right?  Because Baseball Stars.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on July 27, 2014, 05:45:10 pm
You guys are all forgetting about the greatest game ever:  FIFA

You mean Baseball Stars, right?  Because Baseball Stars.

Pretty sure he meant Mutant League Football.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 27, 2014, 05:49:06 pm
You guys are all forgetting about the greatest game ever:  FIFA

You mean Baseball Stars, right?  Because Baseball Stars.

Pretty sure he meant Mutant League Football.

Golden Axe?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 27, 2014, 06:49:03 pm
Guys stop it! I candle handle all the memories! Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Pogs, my first kiss, riding my bike around the block naked and crashing into a parked truck.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 27, 2014, 07:04:19 pm
I candle handle

Can't you han't?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 27, 2014, 07:06:56 pm
I candle handle

Can't you han't?

Just call me the candle handler.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on July 27, 2014, 10:01:46 pm
On the topic of video game graphics...

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/e1df4e1ae5f9e3ce0b273a5059015e2c/tumblr_n5yp4rBbVj1qc8qobo1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: Archetype on July 27, 2014, 10:19:02 pm
On the topic of video game graphics...

basketball.jpg
His head is really in the game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 27, 2014, 10:20:36 pm
On the topic of video game graphics...

basketball.jpg
His head is really in the game.

I guess neither of them plays for the Clippers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 28, 2014, 01:24:54 am
I candle handle

Can't you han't?

Just call me the candle handler.

Do you handle other people's candles?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on July 28, 2014, 10:39:14 am
I candle handle

Can't you han't?

Just call me the candle handler.

Do you handle other people's candles?

I'll skip the preamble. I only handle candles that belong to mandle-wearing-sandle-hating members of the Randell or Crandell scandal. Now go scramble into those brambles you vandal! It's time for some Campbells before I put on some George Frideric Handel.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 28, 2014, 12:30:14 pm
I candle handle

Can't you han't?

Just call me the candle handler.

Do you handle other people's candles?

I'll skip the preamble. I only handle candles that belong to mandle-wearing-sandle-hating members of the Randell or Crandell scandal. Now go scramble into those brambles you vandal! It's time for some Campbells before I put on some George Frideric Handel.

I don't think I can hold a candle to that post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 28, 2014, 12:59:53 pm
http://www.clickhole.com/quiz/which-one-those-shape-guys-are-you-hats-607
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 28, 2014, 01:04:34 pm
http://www.clickhole.com/quiz/which-one-those-shape-guys-are-you-hats-607
(http://chimg.onionstatic.com/1665/1x1/200.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on July 28, 2014, 01:16:40 pm
http://www.clickhole.com/quiz/which-one-those-shape-guys-are-you-hats-607

(http://chimg.onionstatic.com/1663/1x1/200.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on July 28, 2014, 01:32:32 pm
http://www.clickhole.com/quiz/which-one-those-shape-guys-are-you-hats-607
(http://www.identity-links.com/img/ucart/images/pimage/26025/main.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on July 28, 2014, 09:01:17 pm
I was a huge fan of the Mr. Men.
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Post by: qmech on July 29, 2014, 04:15:38 am
I was a huge fan of the Mr. Men.

I am a huge fan of the Mr Men.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on July 29, 2014, 02:47:58 pm
Can someone explain to me why Jeopardy is a thing ? Theoretically the concept of finding a question through its answer is interesting, but it turns out to be just a normal quizz show with random phrasing that ends up having questions that make no sense, I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 29, 2014, 03:15:32 pm
Can someone explain to me why Jeopardy is a thing ? Theoretically the concept of finding a question through its answer is interesting, but it turns out to be just a normal quizz show with random phrasing that ends up having questions that make no sense, I just don't get it.
I think maybe when it first started, quiz shows were more common and the answer/question reversal was Jeopardy's hook. But I don't think it's really any part of the show's current appeal. Really it's just the occasional gotcha when people forget to say, "What is…"
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Post by: sudgy on July 29, 2014, 03:17:48 pm
Can someone explain to me why Jeopardy is a thing ? Theoretically the concept of finding a question through its answer is interesting, but it turns out to be just a normal quizz show with random phrasing that ends up having questions that make no sense, I just don't get it.
I think maybe when it first started, quiz shows were more common and the answer/question reversal was Jeopardy's hook. But I don't think it's really any part of the show's current appeal. Really it's just the occasional gotcha when people forget to say, "What is…"

Or, "Who is Dankey Kang?"
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Post by: SirPeebles on July 29, 2014, 03:19:56 pm
Can someone explain to me why Jeopardy is a thing ? Theoretically the concept of finding a question through its answer is interesting, but it turns out to be just a normal quizz show with random phrasing that ends up having questions that make no sense, I just don't get it.
I think maybe when it first started, quiz shows were more common and the answer/question reversal was Jeopardy's hook. But I don't think it's really any part of the show's current appeal. Really it's just the occasional gotcha when people forget to say, "What is…"

Or, "Who is Dankey Kang?"

*buzzes in*

Whom is Dankey Kang?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 29, 2014, 03:25:47 pm
I briefly remember an episode from my childhood when one of the contestants responded with "How about X?" and Trebek asked the judges for a ruling... and sure enough, it was enough of a "question."

But yeah, given the lack of quiz shows (or even game shows) now, it's a dumb gimmick.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 29, 2014, 03:26:39 pm
Can someone explain to me why Jeopardy is a thing ? Theoretically the concept of finding a question through its answer is interesting, but it turns out to be just a normal quizz show with random phrasing that ends up having questions that make no sense, I just don't get it.
I think maybe when it first started, quiz shows were more common and the answer/question reversal was Jeopardy's hook. But I don't think it's really any part of the show's current appeal. Really it's just the occasional gotcha when people forget to say, "What is…"

Or, "Who is Dankey Kang?"

*buzzes in*

Whom is Dankey Kang?

*buzzes over SirPeebles*

WHO is Dankey Kang
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: scott_pilgrim on July 29, 2014, 03:29:34 pm
What I heard was that, at the time Jeopardy first came around, there were other trivia quiz shows that had been involved in scams by giving answers to certain contestants they wanted to win (because those contestants were more popular and would increase show ratings if they continued to reappear on the show).  Jeopardy thought they were eliminating the potential for that kind of cheating by giving everyone the answers, and the contestants would have to figure out the questions instead.  Obviously that doesn't solve anything in practice, but I guess it caught on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 30, 2014, 08:42:42 pm
There are at least three separate standards for inserting mathematical equations into documents.  As far as I can tell, only one of them (MS) is proprietary.  Why the fuck did the people who created OOo not just use LaTeX?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 30, 2014, 08:46:29 pm
There are at least three separate standards for inserting mathematical equations into documents.  As far as I can tell, only one of them (MS) is proprietary.  Why the fuck did the people who created OOo not just use LaTeX?

Probably a LaTeX allergy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on July 30, 2014, 09:18:00 pm
I was trying to think of some non-standard Jeopardy questions

A: Because of atmospheric Rayleigh scattering of higher frequency photons.

Q: Why is the sky blue?

A: From a mother's uterus, after a nine month process of fertilization and pregnancy.

Q: Where do babies come from?

A: It depends on the philosophical context; physically, it measurably does, but in some interpretations subjective consciousness is the only true basis for reality.

Q: If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is there to hear, does it still make a sound?

A: Blowin' in the wind.

Q: (numerous acceptable)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 30, 2014, 09:31:30 pm
There are at least three separate standards for inserting mathematical equations into documents.  As far as I can tell, only one of them (MS) is proprietary.  Why the fuck did the people who created OOo not just use LaTeX?

Probably a LaTeX allergy.

I should have seen that coming.

However, I've now used far too much energy on trying to write equations in a program I don't normally use so that I can include equations in a document in a format I do normally use, so that the whole thing is readable in a third format that I don't normally use.

Did I say "equations?"  I meant "equation."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 30, 2014, 09:37:07 pm
There are at least three separate standards for inserting mathematical equations into documents.  As far as I can tell, only one of them (MS) is proprietary.  Why the fuck did the people who created OOo not just use LaTeX?

Probably a LaTeX allergy.

I should have seen that coming.

However, I've now used far too much energy on trying to write equations in a program I don't normally use so that I can include equations in a document in a format I do normally use, so that the whole thing is readable in a third format that I don't normally use.

Did I say "equations?"  I meant "equation."

What is OOo? It has a very difficult-to-google name (which is probably a mistake for anything that wants any kind of branding)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 30, 2014, 09:54:26 pm
What is OOo? It has a very difficult-to-google name (which is probably a mistake for anything that wants any kind of branding)

OpenOffice.org, which I suppose is now AOO (Apache OpenOffice) instead.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on July 30, 2014, 11:53:05 pm
I think a bunch of you in this crowd would appreciate this "game"

http://orteil.dashnet.org/nested
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on July 31, 2014, 12:44:22 am
I think a bunch of you in this crowd would appreciate this "game"

http://orteil.dashnet.org/nested

And presumably the whole thing is procedurally generated.  That is fantastic, amusing, and pointless, wrapped in a mystery, covered in chocolate and deep-fried.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on July 31, 2014, 01:07:11 am
I think a bunch of you in this crowd would appreciate this "game"

http://orteil.dashnet.org/nested

And presumably the whole thing is procedurally generated.  That is fantastic, amusing, and pointless, wrapped in a mystery, covered in chocolate and deep-fried.

I like the opening of the source:

Code: [Select]
//This is the source-code. Use it wisely. (Better not use it without my permission though.)
//
//I made this when I was bored at work around 2011; I've been progressively adding stuff to it since.
//I am by no means a professional programmer (I do pixel-art and game-design), so please don't judge my code too harshly!
//
//Wikipedia was used extensively for this project. I am now aware of the composition of everything. *Everything*.
//
//(oh yeah, don't read all the code right now, it kind of ruins the surprise of finding things!)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on July 31, 2014, 01:18:23 am
Wait, are all the galaxies spiral?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SK on July 31, 2014, 01:22:19 am
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on July 31, 2014, 03:44:50 am
The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why)

It was started by three other people.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 31, 2014, 10:00:03 am
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on July 31, 2014, 10:12:30 am
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?

Neither. He knew it was you because your turns appeared under the log.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on July 31, 2014, 10:16:33 am
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?

Neither. He knew it was you because your turns appeared under the log.

You know you're dreaming when your IRL games have logs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on July 31, 2014, 02:32:17 pm
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?

Neither. He knew it was you because your turns appeared under the log.

You know you're dreaming when your IRL games have logs.

Are they still IRL if they're in a dream?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SK on July 31, 2014, 10:58:36 pm
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?
I don't know what you actually look like, but in my dream you looked like a sort of like Sirius Black.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 03, 2014, 10:16:37 am
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?
I don't know what you actually look like, but in my dream you looked like a sort of like Sirius Black.

I know you're new to the forum so I'll give you this piece of advice. You see that "Post Your Picture" thread over there? I know it looks tempting but don't click it and sure as hell don't post in it. I managed to stay away from it but a photo of me still found its way onto the forum and now I'm ruined. I mean look at me! This morning I overcooked my eggs for christ's sake! I'm worthless! Once the people on this forum see who you truly are, they discard you like an estate. Like a no good dirty estate.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZong3 on August 03, 2014, 10:20:32 am
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?
I don't know what you actually look like, but in my dream you looked like a sort of like Sirius Black.

I know you're new to the forum so I'll give you this piece of advice. You see that "Post Your Picture" thread over there? I know it looks tempting but don't click it and sure as hell don't post in it. I managed to stay away from it but a photo of me still found its way onto the forum and now I'm ruined. I mean look at me! This morning I overcooked my eggs for christ's sake! I'm worthless! Once the people on this forum see who you truly are, they discard you like an estate. Like a no good dirty estate.

Hey you! What did I tell you about coming in here and messing with people? Get out! You're banned, you understand? Banned!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 03, 2014, 10:23:38 am
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?
I don't know what you actually look like, but in my dream you looked like a sort of like Sirius Black.

Don't tell my wife. She's got a serious fictional crush on Sirius Black.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 03, 2014, 02:58:38 pm
Had a weird dream that I was playing Dominion with LastFootnote irl. The game we were playing had already been started by other people and the only cards I remember were wharf, bishop, and chapel. There were eleven Provinces left (I don't know why) and I was wondering if I could transition into the golden deck (my deck was relatively thin). I think I ended up doing it.

I believe it. I rarely spot Golden deck opportunities, so probably you could blindside me with it.

Did I look like me, or just some guy who said he was me?
I don't know what you actually look like, but in my dream you looked like a sort of like Sirius Black.

I know you're new to the forum so I'll give you this piece of advice. You see that "Post Your Picture" thread over there? I know it looks tempting but don't click it and sure as hell don't post in it. I managed to stay away from it but a photo of me still found its way onto the forum and now I'm ruined. I mean look at me! This morning I overcooked my eggs for christ's sake! I'm worthless! Once the people on this forum see who you truly are, they discard you like an estate. Like a no good dirty estate.

Hey you! What did I tell you about coming in here and messing with people? Get out! You're banned, you understand? Banned!

Stop impersonating me!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 03, 2014, 03:18:48 pm
Ok seriously, who is Kingzong?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 03, 2014, 03:25:23 pm
Ok seriously, who is Kingzong?

It's not me. Honestly. I keep thinking it's my posts, but I can't remember writing them. Then I see it's Zong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 03, 2014, 04:59:25 pm
I'm just waiting for Kingzong to reply and say 'it's me' or something similar.

It might not be me, by the way.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 04, 2014, 12:54:29 am
It's totally Tables.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on August 04, 2014, 03:10:38 am
I'm pretty sure it's Axxle2, he likes doing things like this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 04, 2014, 11:26:53 am
Pretty sure it's FTTW. Don't deny it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on August 04, 2014, 11:48:24 am
It seems like something KingZog2 would do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 04, 2014, 11:53:18 am
Pretty sure it's FTTW. Don't deny it!

Sadly it's not. It's probably Awaclus or silverspawn.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 04, 2014, 12:01:38 pm
Will the real King Zog please stand up?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 04, 2014, 12:30:51 pm
Pretty sure it's FTTW. Don't deny it!

Sadly it's not. It's probably Awaclus or silverspawn.
why awaclus
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 04, 2014, 12:30:59 pm
Will the real King Zog please stand up?

That's me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KigZog3 on August 04, 2014, 12:39:33 pm
Don't look at me, guys.  I'm not the real impostor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on August 04, 2014, 12:59:29 pm
Pretty sure it's FTTW. Don't deny it!

Sadly it's not. It's probably Awaclus or silverspawn.
why awaclus

I don't know, for some reason I had a feeling it was Awaclus too. Just a hunch
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 04, 2014, 01:18:32 pm
vote: Awaclus

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Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 04, 2014, 01:51:46 pm
The google doodle is about Mr. Venn. His wikipedia page seems to think he A BOSS 2!!!!!!!!!!11111 LOL :O

EDIT: I took a screen shot, but it's no longer in the article, so you'll have to ask me to post it if you want to see.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 04, 2014, 06:02:03 pm
http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/algorithm-recovers-speech-from-vibrations-0804

This is both really cool and pretty frightening.  Researchers at MIT recorded a potato chip bag with a highspeed camera through soundproof glass.  By analyzing the vibrations in the visual recording, they were able to reconstruct the human speech.  They used a modified method to recover a decent approximation of the sound even with a commercial non-highspeed camera.

I wonder if this will be a common app for handheld devices within 10 or 20 years.  Just record a video of a loose object from a distance/through glass, and then your app will be able to reconstruct the nearby voices.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 04, 2014, 06:33:11 pm
http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/algorithm-recovers-speech-from-vibrations-0804

This is both really cool and pretty frightening.  Researchers at MIT recorded a potato chip bag with a highspeed camera through soundproof glass.  By analyzing the vibrations in the visual recording, they were able to reconstruct the human speech.  They used a modified method to recover a decent approximation of the sound even with a commercial non-highspeed camera.

I wonder if this will be a common app for handheld devices within 10 or 20 years.  Just record a video of a loose object from a distance/through glass, and then your app will be able to reconstruct the nearby voices.

You neglect to mention until the end of your post that the bag's vibrations are caused by nearby voices. I was under the impression that the technology was able to determine what the bag itself was saying in sounds too faint for human ears to register.

In my defense, that would be both really cool and pretty frightening.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 05, 2014, 10:21:39 am
I used to smoke that stuff, too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on August 05, 2014, 01:06:45 pm
I think I finally rid myself of a demonic browser extension/virus that's been plaguing me for days. The processes chromehelper.exe, iehelper.exe, and firefoxhelper.exe would reinstantiate themselves as soon as I terminated them, and it wouldn't let me delete them while they were still open. So I had to end them in task manager, then quickly delete them within a second before they reappeared.

I'm 100% sure there's an easier way to do it than that, foremost being I shouldn't have let my computer get to that state to begin with. But it was very satisfying, my browser runs like twice as fast now and it felt pretty badass ;D
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 05, 2014, 02:13:02 pm
I learned a cool trick today.  If you upgrade to the newest version of Microsoft Office products through Office 365, then you can get those applications to continuously crash.  Steps to replicate:

1) Upgrade to Office 2013
2) Open a program
3) Watch it crash

Also, they're linked in a cool way where if any one application within this suite crashes (say, Word), it also crashes all other ones that are open.  That's a feature.

Edit: Oh yeah and makes everything else super laggy.   
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 05, 2014, 02:19:49 pm
I think I finally rid myself of a demonic browser extension/virus that's been plaguing me for days. The processes chromehelper.exe, iehelper.exe, and firefoxhelper.exe would reinstantiate themselves as soon as I terminated them, and it wouldn't let me delete them while they were still open. So I had to end them in task manager, then quickly delete them within a second before they reappeared.

I'm 100% sure there's an easier way to do it than that, foremost being I shouldn't have let my computer get to that state to begin with. But it was very satisfying, my browser runs like twice as fast now and it felt pretty badass ;D

I recommend running chromehelperhelper.exe

Caution:  that is only a terrible joke.  If such a file does exist, I do not endorse running it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 05, 2014, 02:26:37 pm
I think I finally rid myself of a demonic browser extension/virus that's been plaguing me for days. The processes chromehelper.exe, iehelper.exe, and firefoxhelper.exe would reinstantiate themselves as soon as I terminated them, and it wouldn't let me delete them while they were still open. So I had to end them in task manager, then quickly delete them within a second before they reappeared.

I'm 100% sure there's an easier way to do it than that, foremost being I shouldn't have let my computer get to that state to begin with. But it was very satisfying, my browser runs like twice as fast now and it felt pretty badass ;D

I recommend running chromehelperhelper.exe

Caution:  that is only a terrible joke.  If such a file does exist, I do not endorse running it.

Pretty sure you could just rune chromehelper.exe.  Problem with Chrome, run chromehelper.exe.  It checks out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 05, 2014, 03:19:04 pm
It checks out
Using that credit card you didn't even know you had!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 06, 2014, 06:00:39 pm
i just had possibly my longest dominion game of all time, because my opponent build a terrible golem-advisor-cellar-trade route-monument-saboteur engine that didn't hit 8$ until his last turn, while i played a deck with golems and just monuments as other action cards and needed less than 10 second for each turn. and he also refused to resign even though he clearly could never catch up. he even insisted on playing advisors when there was one card left in his deck several times. .......
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 06, 2014, 07:06:00 pm
i just had possibly my longest dominion game of all time, because my opponent build a terrible golem-advisor-cellar-trade route-monument-saboteur engine that didn't hit 8$ until his last turn, while i played a deck with golems and just monuments as other action cards and needed less than 10 second for each turn. and he also refused to resign even though he clearly could never catch up. he even insisted on playing advisors when there was one card left in his deck several times. .......

Some people play like 5 tournaments in a row after I show a province. Dude, am I going to forget this time?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on August 06, 2014, 07:23:57 pm
i just had possibly my longest dominion game of all time, because my opponent build a terrible golem-advisor-cellar-trade route-monument-saboteur engine that didn't hit 8$ until his last turn, while i played a deck with golems and just monuments as other action cards and needed less than 10 second for each turn. and he also refused to resign even though he clearly could never catch up. he even insisted on playing advisors when there was one card left in his deck several times. .......

Some people play like 5 tournaments in a row after I show a province. Dude, am I going to forget this time?

Edge cases: Peddler, Menagerie, draw to X, conspirator, Count, Horse Traders, Mandarin, Salvager (or any TFB that gives another bonus), Masquerade (or any draw then trash card that gives another bonus) with an empty deck, Shanty Town, Minion (if you don't want them in the shuffle), Island, multiple Schemes, and, of course, multiple Provinces

:-p
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 06, 2014, 07:32:38 pm
i just had possibly my longest dominion game of all time, because my opponent build a terrible golem-advisor-cellar-trade route-monument-saboteur engine that didn't hit 8$ until his last turn, while i played a deck with golems and just monuments as other action cards and needed less than 10 second for each turn. and he also refused to resign even though he clearly could never catch up. he even insisted on playing advisors when there was one card left in his deck several times. .......

Some people play like 5 tournaments in a row after I show a province. Dude, am I going to forget this time?

Edge cases: Peddler, Menagerie, draw to X, conspirator, Count, Horse Traders, Mandarin, Salvager (or any TFB that gives another bonus), Masquerade (or any draw then trash card that gives another bonus) with an empty deck, Shanty Town, Minion (if you don't want them in the shuffle), Island, multiple Schemes, and, of course, multiple Provinces

:-p

When no edge cases are present. I'm ok if there are edge cases.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on August 07, 2014, 03:26:59 am
So fun story - I played a game with AI way way back, and was losing very badly. I had 3 Tournaments in hand, and he revealed Province to the first. It was late, and I had nothing to lose, so I played the 2nd. Gets denied instantly. Play the 3rd.

He doesn't block it right away, so I say "Please?" in the chat, very nicely, and after thinking about it he gives me the draw.

Then I play the 4th Tournament I drew, and he blocks it.

In conclusion, AI is a dick.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 07, 2014, 08:34:18 am
another fun story: i send the invite 2 days ago, but she didn't accept :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 07, 2014, 08:58:00 am
another fun story: i send the invite 2 days ago, but she didn't accept :(

Should have sent a handwritten invitation, with roses.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 07, 2014, 09:12:48 am
another fun story: i send the invite 2 days ago, but she didn't accept :(

Should have sent a handwritten invitation, with roses.

and chocolate
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 07, 2014, 09:13:07 am
another fun story: i send the invite 2 days ago, but she didn't accept :(

Should have sent a handwritten invitation, with roses.

and chocolate

And mariachi band.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Eevee on August 07, 2014, 10:13:22 am
another fun story: i send the invite 2 days ago, but she didn't accept :(

Should have sent a handwritten invitation, with roses.

and chocolate

And mariachi band.
And a message that reads "I named my vacuum cleaner after you."
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 07, 2014, 10:47:23 am
another fun story: i send the invite 2 days ago, but she didn't accept :(

Should have sent a handwritten invitation, with roses.

and chocolate

And mariachi band.
And a message that reads "I named my vacuum cleaner after you."

I thought this was just an innocuous statement poking fun at obsession.

Then I thought about the ramifications. You are a bad person!

Also, Silverspawn, I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes people just change. Also, it might not be your fault, since Facebook does weird things. Ever since it was revealed that statuses weren't showing up not because of bad code but because of deliberate code, I don't take anything for granted. Hell, even before that happened, I knew that people were spontaneously being unfriended without notification. This can lead people to thinking the other person snubbed them unless they can talk with that person about it (which is how I learned that it happens).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on August 07, 2014, 01:51:21 pm
Also, Silverspawn, I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes people just change. Also, it might not be your fault, since Facebook does weird things. Ever since it was revealed that statuses weren't showing up not because of bad code but because of deliberate code, I don't take anything for granted. Hell, even before that happened, I knew that people were spontaneously being unfriended without notification. This can lead people to thinking the other person snubbed them unless they can talk with that person about it (which is how I learned that it happens).
I just read up on this now. So what, about 4/5ths of your followers won't see a given status update unless you pay pet post to promote the message? Da hell is up with that? And now the mobile app moved personal chat to another app that can apparently hijack your phone if it wants?

Ugh, this all makes me want to use Facebook a lot less. I still need it to communicate with groups though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 07, 2014, 02:21:30 pm
Also, Silverspawn, I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes people just change. Also, it might not be your fault, since Facebook does weird things. Ever since it was revealed that statuses weren't showing up not because of bad code but because of deliberate code, I don't take anything for granted. Hell, even before that happened, I knew that people were spontaneously being unfriended without notification. This can lead people to thinking the other person snubbed them unless they can talk with that person about it (which is how I learned that it happens).
I just read up on this now. So what, about 4/5ths of your followers won't see a given status update unless you pay pet post to promote the message? Da hell is up with that? And now the mobile app moved personal chat to another app that can apparently hijack your phone if it wants?

Ugh, this all makes me want to use Facebook a lot less. I still need it to communicate with groups though.

Why would you be outraged at this? That's like being mad at Gmail for not sending your emails to random people in your address book, even people you didn't send it the email to. 

If you want someone in particular to see your Facebook update, you can tag them in it.  And if someone visits your profile, they will see all your updates.  And even if neither are applicable, if the story is active or interesting enough, Facebook will move it up in your friends' News Feeds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 07, 2014, 02:24:01 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfHeWTKjag
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on August 07, 2014, 02:35:27 pm
Also, Silverspawn, I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes people just change. Also, it might not be your fault, since Facebook does weird things. Ever since it was revealed that statuses weren't showing up not because of bad code but because of deliberate code, I don't take anything for granted. Hell, even before that happened, I knew that people were spontaneously being unfriended without notification. This can lead people to thinking the other person snubbed them unless they can talk with that person about it (which is how I learned that it happens).
I just read up on this now. So what, about 4/5ths of your followers won't see a given status update unless you pay pet post to promote the message? Da hell is up with that? And now the mobile app moved personal chat to another app that can apparently hijack your phone if it wants?

Ugh, this all makes me want to use Facebook a lot less. I still need it to communicate with groups though.

Why would you be outraged at this? That's like being mad at Gmail for not sending your emails to random people in your address book, even people you didn't send it the email to. 

If you want someone in particular to see your Facebook update, you can tag them in it.  And if someone visits your profile, they will see all your updates.  And even if neither are applicable, if the story is active or interesting enough, Facebook will move it up in your friends' News Feeds.
The issue I was describing doesn't affect me in any way since I only send posts to close friends, for the reasons you describe. That doesn't mean no one else is being screwed over here. Any small business that relies on exposure to outsiders liking their pages loses lots of traffic. I assume most users like many different pages to follow their posts. They're expected to check the home page of those sites every time a new post might be there?

It would explain why the daily posts of a restautant I follow don't show up every day. Of course. I don't follow much else, so I can check out the page myself.

It appears this is old news, as the article I found on it was dated 2012. Has the situation changed since then?
http://touch.dangerousminds.net/all/facebook_i_want_my_friends_back#1 (http://touch.dangerousminds.net/all/facebook_i_want_my_friends_back#1)

For the record, I think the messenger app will probably be fine enough in the end.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 07, 2014, 02:44:01 pm
Also, Silverspawn, I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes people just change. Also, it might not be your fault, since Facebook does weird things. Ever since it was revealed that statuses weren't showing up not because of bad code but because of deliberate code, I don't take anything for granted. Hell, even before that happened, I knew that people were spontaneously being unfriended without notification. This can lead people to thinking the other person snubbed them unless they can talk with that person about it (which is how I learned that it happens).
I just read up on this now. So what, about 4/5ths of your followers won't see a given status update unless you pay pet post to promote the message? Da hell is up with that? And now the mobile app moved personal chat to another app that can apparently hijack your phone if it wants?

Ugh, this all makes me want to use Facebook a lot less. I still need it to communicate with groups though.

Why would you be outraged at this? That's like being mad at Gmail for not sending your emails to random people in your address book, even people you didn't send it the email to. 

If you want someone in particular to see your Facebook update, you can tag them in it.  And if someone visits your profile, they will see all your updates.  And even if neither are applicable, if the story is active or interesting enough, Facebook will move it up in your friends' News Feeds.
The issue I was describing doesn't affect me in any way since I only send posts to close friends, for the reasons you describe. That doesn't mean no one else is being screwed over here. Any small business that relies on exposure to outsiders liking their pages loses lots of traffic. I assume most users like many different pages to follow their posts. They're expected to check the home page of those sites every time a new post might be there?

It would explain why the daily posts of a restautant I follow don't show up every day. Of course. I don't follow much else, so I can check out the page myself.

It appears this is old news, as the article I found on it was dated 2012. Has the situation changed since then?
http://touch.dangerousminds.net/all/facebook_i_want_my_friends_back#1 (http://touch.dangerousminds.net/all/facebook_i_want_my_friends_back#1)

For the record, I think the messenger app will probably be fine enough in the end.

The small business does not necessarily lose a lot of traffic, since without some filtering my feed would be so flooded that I likely wouldn't have seen  the small business's post anyhow.  Essentially, when I log onto facebook I'm going to read approximately X posts.  If my friends and liked pages have posted more than X posts, then I am not going to see all of them.  It is in facebook's own interest that the X posts I see are ones that I will enjoy enough to continue using facebook in the future.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 07, 2014, 02:46:00 pm
Also, Silverspawn, I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes people just change. Also, it might not be your fault, since Facebook does weird things. Ever since it was revealed that statuses weren't showing up not because of bad code but because of deliberate code, I don't take anything for granted. Hell, even before that happened, I knew that people were spontaneously being unfriended without notification. This can lead people to thinking the other person snubbed them unless they can talk with that person about it (which is how I learned that it happens).
I just read up on this now. So what, about 4/5ths of your followers won't see a given status update unless you pay pet post to promote the message? Da hell is up with that? And now the mobile app moved personal chat to another app that can apparently hijack your phone if it wants?

Ugh, this all makes me want to use Facebook a lot less. I still need it to communicate with groups though.

Why would you be outraged at this? That's like being mad at Gmail for not sending your emails to random people in your address book, even people you didn't send it the email to. 

If you want someone in particular to see your Facebook update, you can tag them in it.  And if someone visits your profile, they will see all your updates.  And even if neither are applicable, if the story is active or interesting enough, Facebook will move it up in your friends' News Feeds.

Speaking from an armchair (is this an expression?)...

It's an interesting problem of content curation that Facebook has to deal with here.  From an individual perspective, I intuit that something I post publicly should be visible to all of my friends by virtue of us having "connected" on Facebook.  That link is like a pipeline between us, my content should be shuttled to that other person, and vice versa.  Perhaps a better analogy -- Facebook is like a bulletin board where I can post messages that I want all of my friends to see.

The fact that Facebook prevents this message from reaching all of my friends is akin to my posted message being torn down against my will.  I posted it for everyone to see, but now you're not letting them see it?  How dare you?

From a practical perspective, this is ludicrous.  There are so many messages being posted that nobody will be able to see all of them.  Some will inevitably be buried.  Instead of letting it be an unchecked free-for-all, Facebook tries to bump up items that it thinks will interest you more.  There are pros and cons to this, but I have armchaired enough for now.

This is only concerning the personal updates stuff.  All the stuff with actual advertising fraud and like-click-farms is a whole other can of worms.

(semi-ninja'd)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 07, 2014, 02:53:16 pm
I have recently actually begun to enjoy the fact that facebook has been putting all of my "favorite" things at the top.  I see all of the things I care about right away, then there's all of that other stuff that I still look at below it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 07, 2014, 02:56:26 pm
There's an option to view your unfiltered, raw news feed.  For obvious reasons, no one does that.  It's just too much freakin' information.

Claiming Facebook censors posts from your friends is like claiming that Google censors some search results from you by burying them on page 2 or page 3.  It "censors" them only in the sense that it must prioritize some stories and therefore deprioritize some others.  As you interact with what you see, you educate its ranking systems and it will adapt accordingly -- if there's some small restaurant that you read every story of, it will start showing every post of that restaurant.  If you always skip over Uncle Joe's Conspiracy Rants, it will start de-emphasizing his stories except for the ones that are extremely popular.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on August 07, 2014, 03:01:41 pm
Also, Silverspawn, I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes people just change. Also, it might not be your fault, since Facebook does weird things. Ever since it was revealed that statuses weren't showing up not because of bad code but because of deliberate code, I don't take anything for granted. Hell, even before that happened, I knew that people were spontaneously being unfriended without notification. This can lead people to thinking the other person snubbed them unless they can talk with that person about it (which is how I learned that it happens).
I just read up on this now. So what, about 4/5ths of your followers won't see a given status update unless you pay pet post to promote the message? Da hell is up with that? And now the mobile app moved personal chat to another app that can apparently hijack your phone if it wants?

Ugh, this all makes me want to use Facebook a lot less. I still need it to communicate with groups though.

Why would you be outraged at this? That's like being mad at Gmail for not sending your emails to random people in your address book, even people you didn't send it the email to. 

If you want someone in particular to see your Facebook update, you can tag them in it.  And if someone visits your profile, they will see all your updates.  And even if neither are applicable, if the story is active or interesting enough, Facebook will move it up in your friends' News Feeds.
The issue I was describing doesn't affect me in any way since I only send posts to close friends, for the reasons you describe. That doesn't mean no one else is being screwed over here. Any small business that relies on exposure to outsiders liking their pages loses lots of traffic. I assume most users like many different pages to follow their posts. They're expected to check the home page of those sites every time a new post might be there?

It would explain why the daily posts of a restautant I follow don't show up every day. Of course. I don't follow much else, so I can check out the page myself.

It appears this is old news, as the article I found on it was dated 2012. Has the situation changed since then?
http://touch.dangerousminds.net/all/facebook_i_want_my_friends_back#1 (http://touch.dangerousminds.net/all/facebook_i_want_my_friends_back#1)

For the record, I think the messenger app will probably be fine enough in the end.

The small business does not necessarily lose a lot of traffic, since without some filtering my feed would be so flooded that I likely wouldn't have seen  the small business's post anyhow.  Essentially, when I log onto facebook I'm going to read approximately X posts.  If my friends and liked pages have posted more than X posts, then I am not going to see all of them.  It is in facebook's own interest that the X posts I see are ones that I will enjoy enough to continue using facebook in the future.
Okay, that makes more sense. A result of Facebook's own popularity it seems. The result is that it's hard to follow all of your friends and liked pages, even if they're few in number. That encourages personal connection rather than broad connections for advertising/exposure purposes.

There's a new post by Theory above me. That's actually useful info, but I still feel Facebook isn't providing the awesome exposure it supposedly can create.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 07, 2014, 03:13:40 pm
It's an interesting problem of content curation that Facebook has to deal with here.  From an individual perspective, I intuit that something I post publicly should be visible to all of my friends by virtue of us having "connected" on Facebook.  That link is like a pipeline between us, my content should be shuttled to that other person, and vice versa.  Perhaps a better analogy -- Facebook is like a bulletin board where I can post messages that I want all of my friends to see.

The fact that Facebook prevents this message from reaching all of my friends is akin to my posted message being torn down against my will.  I posted it for everyone to see, but now you're not letting them see it?  How dare you?

From a practical perspective, this is ludicrous.  There are so many messages being posted that nobody will be able to see all of them.  Some will inevitably be buried.  Instead of letting it be an unchecked free-for-all, Facebook tries to bump up items that it thinks will interest you more.  There are pros and cons to this, but I have armchaired enough for now.

This is only concerning the personal updates stuff.  All the stuff with actual advertising fraud and like-click-farms is a whole other can of worms.

(semi-ninja'd)

It is only on the newsfeed that this filtering happens.  Anyone who is interested in what you've been up to can still check out your wall.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 07, 2014, 03:15:53 pm
If you always skip over Uncle Joe's Conspiracy Rants, it will start de-emphasizing his stories except for the ones that are extremely popular.

There was one facebook friend that posted about 3845938 things a day, all of which I wasn't interested in.  I was thinking that they would eventually fall to the bottom of my news feed, but they just kept on posting things, and it seemed to somehow get worse.  That is the only person that I've unfollowed or whatever it's called.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 07, 2014, 04:49:07 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsLWH8Eozqw&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 07, 2014, 05:05:19 pm
If you always skip over Uncle Joe's Conspiracy Rants, it will start de-emphasizing his stories except for the ones that are extremely popular.

There was one facebook friend that posted about 3845938 things a day, all of which I wasn't interested in.  I was thinking that they would eventually fall to the bottom of my news feed, but they just kept on posting things, and it seemed to somehow get worse.  That is the only person that I've unfollowed or whatever it's called.

I unfollowed someone (not unfriended) because I couldn't stand to see all the "vaccinations are bad" and "Alkaline foods can kill cancer" posts they kept on sharing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on August 07, 2014, 11:37:58 pm
There's an option to view your unfiltered, raw news feed.  For obvious reasons, no one does that.  It's just too much freakin' information.

Claiming Facebook censors posts from your friends is like claiming that Google censors some search results from you by burying them on page 2 or page 3.  It "censors" them only in the sense that it must prioritize some stories and therefore deprioritize some others.  As you interact with what you see, you educate its ranking systems and it will adapt accordingly -- if there's some small restaurant that you read every story of, it will start showing every post of that restaurant.  If you always skip over Uncle Joe's Conspiracy Rants, it will start de-emphasizing his stories except for the ones that are extremely popular.
Facebook does seem to reset my news feed from "Most Recent" back to "Top Stories" quite frequently. I don't have very many friends/liked pages so it's pretty easy to follow things. I don't like Facebook telling me what I want to see.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on August 08, 2014, 03:38:47 am
8/8, let's celebrate!

Happy Birthday Robz!!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 08, 2014, 10:43:04 am
I'm not Zong, I haven't even been able to use a computer for 9 days! I've been following the Dominion League and some new threads on the Dominion General forum with my phone, but browsing f.ds is inconvenient on a phone and I'm way too lazy to switch users.

I might or might not have been a number of other users with low post counts and high respect/post ratios though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Watno on August 08, 2014, 10:45:11 am
Anyone else seen this yet? http://www.twitch.tv/fishplayspokemon
It's just so insanely stupid, but I think it's really funny that he named his Charmander nearly the same as Twitch plays Pokemon did.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 08, 2014, 10:50:50 am
Anyone else seen this yet? http://www.twitch.tv/fishplayspokemon
It's just so insanely stupid, but I think it's really funny that he named his Charmander nearly the same as Twitch plays Pokemon did.

I think it's funnier he actually named it. I mean this is just random and will never end. Twitch plays pokemon was funny because it was an example of how a hive-mind can form and eventually accomplish something through chaos.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on August 08, 2014, 11:11:02 am
Anyone else seen this yet? http://www.twitch.tv/fishplayspokemon
It's just so insanely stupid, but I think it's really funny that he named his Charmander nearly the same as Twitch plays Pokemon did.

I think it's funnier he actually named it. I mean this is just random and will never end. Twitch plays pokemon was funny because it was an example of how a hive-mind can form and eventually accomplish something through chaos.
That fish won't live forever though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 08, 2014, 11:13:23 am
Anyone else seen this yet? http://www.twitch.tv/fishplayspokemon
It's just so insanely stupid, but I think it's really funny that he named his Charmander nearly the same as Twitch plays Pokemon did.

I think it's funnier he actually named it. I mean this is just random and will never end. Twitch plays pokemon was funny because it was an example of how a hive-mind can form and eventually accomplish something through chaos.

This is cool.  Should set up a camera on a busy intersection and do Traffic plays Pokemon.  Count number of cars passing exiting each direction over some time interval to determine the direction.  Or using pedestrians in New York.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 08, 2014, 12:46:25 pm
Fun fact of the week: Random Stuff backwards is ffutS modnaR.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 08, 2014, 12:54:53 pm
Fun fact of the week: Random Stuff backwards is ffutS modnaR.

Random Stuff si sdrawkcab ffutS modnaR :keew eht fo tcaf nuF
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ffutS modnaR on August 08, 2014, 12:55:32 pm
I HAVE BEEN AWAKENED...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 08, 2014, 12:59:53 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSe9ugpXIw
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 08, 2014, 01:07:53 pm
(http://buttersafe.com/comics/2007-04-05-WhatIsThat.jpg)

Who could have predicted that a fact so fun could awaken a terror so terrifying.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 08, 2014, 01:16:40 pm
Quick, we need King Zong to ban him!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZong3 on August 08, 2014, 01:59:01 pm
Woah. Sorry guys, you're on your own
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 08, 2014, 03:02:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMpZrta2Cwc#t=117
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: markusin on August 08, 2014, 03:14:27 pm
I HAVE BEEN AWAKENED...

Hey, is that avatar one of the giant creatures from the movie "The Mist" based on Stephen King's novel of the same name?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 08, 2014, 03:15:08 pm
DER NEBEL
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 08, 2014, 03:16:32 pm
I HAVE BEEN AWAKENED...

Hey, is that avatar one of the giant creatures from the movie "The Mist" based on Stephen King's novel of the same name?

The Mist was a short story, not a novel. 

Okay maybe it was reprinted as a standalone, but it was originally in Skeleton Crew.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on August 08, 2014, 07:17:48 pm
How music changes gifs:

http://dooku.net/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: StrongRhino on August 09, 2014, 01:19:11 am
8/8, let's celebrate!

Happy Birthday Robz!!!
8-8? Guess it's Dallas Cowboys day today... :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Titandrake on August 09, 2014, 01:30:56 am
Finished Transistor. It was...interesting. I'm still undecided on if it was a good game or not, since you only understand a lot of the story once you're near the end. It feels like a game that gets better on later playthroughs, when you know what's going on, and you understand the battle system enough to really cut loose with it.

The battle system is really, really fun though, so if you're not big on plot that's really all you need.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 09, 2014, 01:36:03 am
8/8, let's celebrate!

Happy Birthday Robz!!!
8-8? Guess it's Dallas Cowboys day today... :(

8/08 is BOB day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 09, 2014, 09:35:14 am
#fun story: I've always felt that luck in dominion comes in series, but it doesn't really make sense for that to be true, so I started writing something down after every game of dominion...

... WS if I played better and won because of it
... WL if I didn't play better but won anyway
... LS if I played worse and lost because of it
... LL if I played at least as good as my opponent but lost anyway
... DS if I played better, but was unfortunate to have a tie
... DL if I played worse, but was fortunate to have a tie
... WD If my opp disconnected
... LD if I disconnected

of course these are just personal evaluations, my opponent might have rated it differently.

here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29970540/Dominion.txt) is the .txt file. it really looks like series, which is very weird.

also stats, I wrote a java program to count:
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WS: 143
WL: 54
LS: 42
LL: 86
WD: 4
LD: 1
others:
LB
LB

I made one LB for "Lost Badmanner" when I played houroku who played all treasures individually and kept taking unnecessary amounts of time for trivial decisions, pretty sure that's the only reason I lost. don't remember the other one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 09, 2014, 11:00:49 am
Now you can do a runs test and see if there really are streaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wald%E2%80%93Wolfowitz_runs_test
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 09, 2014, 11:11:16 am
#fun story: I've always felt that luck in dominion comes in series, but it doesn't really make sense for that to be true, so I started writing something down after every game of dominion...

... WS if I played better and won because of it
... WL if I didn't play better but won anyway
... LS if I played worse and lost because of it
... LL if I played at least as good as my opponent but lost anyway
... DS if I played better, but was unfortunate to have a tie
... DL if I played worse, but was fortunate to have a tie
... WD If my opp disconnected
... LD if I disconnected

of course these are just personal evaluations, my opponent might have rated it differently.

here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29970540/Dominion.txt) is the .txt file. it really looks like series, which is very weird.

also stats, I wrote a java program to count:
Quote
WS: 143
WL: 54
LS: 42
LL: 86
WD: 4
LD: 1
others:
LB
LB

I made one LB for "Lost Badmanner" when I played houroku who played all treasures individually and kept taking unnecessary amounts of time for trivial decisions, pretty sure that's the only reason I lost. don't remember the other one.

Hmm, it definitely makes sense for successive games to not be independent.  For example, I play against bots, and if I lose a game because I did something stupid, got unlucky, or just made a stupid misclick/interface mistake, I'm much more likely to play poorly the next game.  I'm on "tilt" and kind of want to just make up for the previous game.  The effect is probably greater than against human components, because you take a lot more time to think things through against real players.  (I play kind of speed games against bots.)  I'm sure the effect is still there to some degree, though.

Just like in any sport/game/activity/event .. doing things well and winning makes you feel "good" and you get on a "streak".  Mistakes breed more mistakes.  Making each thing independent is a true challenge, and probably not ever achievable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 09, 2014, 12:09:05 pm
Quote
Hmm, it definitely makes sense for successive games to not be independent.  For example, I play against bots, and if I lose a game because I did something stupid, got unlucky, or just made a stupid misclick/interface mistake, I'm much more likely to play poorly the next game.  I'm on "tilt" and kind of want to just make up for the previous game.  The effect is probably greater than against human components, because you take a lot more time to think things through against real players.  (I play kind of speed games against bots.)  I'm sure the effect is still there to some degree, though.

the hypothesis was about luck though, not about success. the tilt effect is certainly there, it's something I've been struggling with forever.

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Now you can do a runs test and see if there really are streaks.

but I got 4 variables, not 2. and I can't just translate WS, LL into "no luck" and WL, LS into "luck", because I've been using WS also if i was lucky and played better, which happens quite often.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 09, 2014, 04:37:41 pm
but I got 4 variables, not 2. and I can't just translate WS, LL into "no luck" and WL, LS into "luck", because I've been using WS also if i was lucky and played better, which happens quite often.

The only real variable is whether you won or lost. The rest is just your subjective perceptions, which may vary just as much as your actual skill from day to day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 09, 2014, 05:36:16 pm
Are any of you trying out dnd 5th edition?  What do you think of it?  How does it compare with 3.5 or 4e?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 09, 2014, 05:40:49 pm
Are any of you trying out dnd 5th edition?  What do you think of it?  How does it compare with 3.5 or 4e?

I did a bit of the playtest awhile ago, if that counts. It was cool, but not enough to pull me away from Pathfinder.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Voltaire on August 09, 2014, 06:45:59 pm
Are any of you trying out dnd 5th edition?  What do you think of it?  How does it compare with 3.5 or 4e?

As someone who is not a D&D guy at all, I have heard other people say generically positive things and that it feels like a blend of 4 and 1. And that nobody who plays Pathfinder is likely to switch.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 09, 2014, 07:00:55 pm
What's a pathfinder?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 09, 2014, 08:17:34 pm
What's a pathfinder?
Scout.


Non sarcastic response: A RPG that uses cards and is supposedly really, really fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 09, 2014, 08:27:05 pm
What's a pathfinder?
Scout.


Non sarcastic response: A RPG that uses cards and is supposedly really, really fun.

It doesn't use cards as far as I know.  Basically the old dnd team broke off and developed a "spiritual successor" to dnd 3.5 when fans were upset about dnd 4
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 09, 2014, 08:33:25 pm
What's a pathfinder?
Scout.


Non sarcastic response: A RPG that uses cards and is supposedly really, really fun.

It doesn't use cards as far as I know.  Basically the old dnd team broke off and developed a "spiritual successor" to dnd 3.5 when fans were upset about dnd 4
Really? I thought the name was Pathfinder: Adventure Card Game. But maybe that's a spinoff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 09, 2014, 09:01:42 pm
What's a pathfinder?
Scout.


Non sarcastic response: A RPG that uses cards and is supposedly really, really fun.

It doesn't use cards as far as I know.  Basically the old dnd team broke off and developed a "spiritual successor" to dnd 3.5 when fans were upset about dnd 4
Really? I thought the name was Pathfinder: Adventure Card Game. But maybe that's a spinoff.

That's the one I recognize, but a quick search turns up this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathfinder_Roleplaying_Game).  Apparently DnD 4e had lots of issues including a more restrictive license and incompatibility with older versions.  So, as SirPeebles said, staff broke off and created something that was backwards compatible with DnD v3.5.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 10, 2014, 03:37:14 am
The Pathfinder card game is different from the Pathfinder RPG.

I like what I've seen from D&D 5th edition, but it's not much better than 3rd edition, which is to say that it's almost as good as Pathfinder, which is to say that it could be the best game on the market...in 1991.

5th edition is trying to become a little bit more narrative, but it's still trying to cater to those stuck in the early '80s.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 10, 2014, 12:11:26 pm
5th edition is trying to become a little bit more narrative

They had to after the backlash from 4e.

Personally, I didn't mind 4e at all insofar as RPG systems go.  But it had more power creep from new books than 3.5e, which is saying something.

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but it's still trying to cater to those stuck in the early '80s.

To be fair, that's a significant chunk of their market.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 10, 2014, 12:27:32 pm
has anyone ever noticed how great a mint/beggar opening is? you have a super thin deck with a terminal gold at the beginning of t3, it's even better than gold/chapel on a baker board. and the usual drawback of not having enough economy with a mint opening doesn't exist. i wonder why it isn't in the top10 best openings...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on August 10, 2014, 12:38:04 pm
has anyone ever noticed how great a mint/beggar opening is? you have a super thin deck with a terminal gold at the beginning of t3, it's even better than gold/chapel on a baker board. and the usual drawback of not having enough economy with a mint opening doesn't exist. i wonder why it isn't in the top10 best openings...

Hum, because if you rely on beggar as your economy, you better be playing a slog?

In my understanding, opening with mint is good because you get a super streamlined deck very quickly, but it's not great because your deck can't do anything for a while (barring good 2$ cards). With beggar, you are losing the reason why opening mint is good: your deck won't stay slim for long.

Unless you intend to buy mint again afterwards, I don't know. How would you play it?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 10, 2014, 12:42:16 pm
has anyone ever noticed how great a mint/beggar opening is? you have a super thin deck with a terminal gold at the beginning of t3, it's even better than gold/chapel on a baker board. and the usual drawback of not having enough economy with a mint opening doesn't exist. i wonder why it isn't in the top10 best openings...
I don't get it. After two uses of Beggar, you have more Copper than you started with, plus two extra almost-dead cards. And the economy in a deck of two Coppers, one terminal Gold and four dead cards isn't super great. What's the point?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on August 10, 2014, 12:48:08 pm
has anyone ever noticed how great a mint/beggar opening is? you have a super thin deck with a terminal gold at the beginning of t3, it's even better than gold/chapel on a baker board. and the usual drawback of not having enough economy with a mint opening doesn't exist. i wonder why it isn't in the top10 best openings...

Because th deck is onlky good for 2 turns ? Why buy Mint if you're going to get a bunch of other Coppers and no good Treasure to replicate ? I guess the idea is to buy a Gold quickly thans to Beggar, but it's not like it's that likely... It seems like a pretty terrible opening to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 10, 2014, 12:48:32 pm
It is a joke.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 10, 2014, 01:36:05 pm
yes it was, but i'm baffled that 3 different people all thought i was serious  ???
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 10, 2014, 01:55:33 pm
yes it was, but i'm baffled that 3 different people all thought i was serious  ???

This is f.ds
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 10, 2014, 01:58:45 pm
yes it was, but i'm baffled that 3 different people all thought i was serious  ???
It doesn't look like a joke on its own, and there's no context.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Teproc on August 10, 2014, 01:59:29 pm
Well, who's to say I wasn't joking as well ?

(I am. I wasn't joking, I'm just dumb.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 10, 2014, 02:08:33 pm
maybe im just really bad at making jokes
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 10, 2014, 02:09:44 pm
Quote
but it's still trying to cater to those stuck in the early '80s.

To be fair, that's a significant chunk of their market.

Yeah, you're right. And it sounds like it's working. They hype for 5E is pretty significant. A lot of that comes from old-timers. It's funny that some people say that D&D has gone back to its roots, because I don't see that much 1E and 2E in 5E. Part of that is because I hated 1E and 2E, and the rules in 5E don't give me that same reaction. Although, they did make electrum pieces a currency again. Um, yay?

Actually, the number of attacks does herald back to the old days when only Fighters could swing a sword more quickly than any other class. I'm okay with that, even though I did welcome the change in 3E when anyone of a sufficient level could attack more often.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 10, 2014, 03:32:58 pm
maybe im just really bad at making jokes

To be fair, I thought it was mildly humorous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 10, 2014, 04:28:19 pm
maybe im just really bad at making jokes

To be fair, I thought it was mildly humorous.
thank you; you changed my life. I'll see you in my dreams :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on August 10, 2014, 04:31:02 pm
maybe im just really bad at making jokes

To be fair, I thought it was mildly humorous.
thank you; you changed my life. I'll see you in my dreams :)

And I thought that mildly creepy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on August 10, 2014, 05:29:46 pm
maybe im just really bad at making jokes

To be fair, I thought it was mildly humorous.
thank you; you changed my life. I'll see you in my dreams :)

Now you have to send a Facebook friend request to KingZog3.

But not before sparking a 5 page long discussion in this thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kuildeous on August 11, 2014, 04:15:55 pm
I passed up an opportunity to play Dominion to play Wasabi instead. Does this make me a bad person?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 11, 2014, 04:16:34 pm
I passed up an opportunity to play Dominion to play Wasabi instead. Does this make me a bad person?
duh
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 11, 2014, 05:02:00 pm
I passed up an opportunity to play Dominion to play Wasabi instead. Does this make me a bad person?

Having played Wasabi once, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a bit disappointed in you. ;) It's not a bad game, but I don't think I'd ever choose it over playing IRL Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 11, 2014, 05:25:07 pm
This belongs here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on August 11, 2014, 05:47:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsDKku1wIZU
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 11, 2014, 06:30:18 pm
Sorry to rain on the random stuff parade, but my girlfriend of three years and I broke up and since my avatar is a painting of a bridge she made, I think it's time for a new avatar... Probably Dominion themed.  Anyone have any suggestions?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on August 11, 2014, 06:46:05 pm
Sorry to rain on the random stuff parade, but my girlfriend of three years and I broke up and since my avatar is a painting of a bridge she made, I think it's time for a new avatar... Probably Dominion themed.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Sorry to hear that, hope you're doing okay!

Isn't your avatar the Dominion Bridge?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 11, 2014, 06:46:59 pm
Isn't your avatar the Dominion Bridge card art?  Not sure if this is a joke that I just don't get.  If real, sorry about the breakup and I hope you're alright.

PPE: ninja'd
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 11, 2014, 06:47:41 pm
"When I was driving once, I saw this painted on a bridge:  'I don't want the world.  I just want your half.'"
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on August 11, 2014, 06:48:21 pm
Sorry to rain on the random stuff parade, but my girlfriend of three years and I broke up and since my avatar is a painting of a bridge she made, I think it's time for a new avatar... Probably Dominion themed.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Sorry to hear that, hope you're doing okay!

Isn't your avatar the Dominion Bridge?

Oh, I see it's not exactly the same.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Donald X. on August 11, 2014, 07:46:33 pm
Sorry to rain on the random stuff parade, but my girlfriend of three years and I broke up and since my avatar is a painting of a bridge she made, I think it's time for a new avatar... Probably Dominion themed.  Anyone have any suggestions?
Ruined Village? Survivors? Sea Hag? Madman? Rebuild?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Jimmmmm on August 11, 2014, 07:47:11 pm
Stache.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 11, 2014, 07:47:38 pm
Sorry to rain on the random stuff parade, but my girlfriend of three years and I broke up and since my avatar is a painting of a bridge she made, I think it's time for a new avatar... Probably Dominion themed.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Sorry to hear that, hope you're doing okay!

Isn't your avatar the Dominion Bridge?

Oh, I see it's not exactly the same.
Yeah, it's the card art, but she painted it.  Note the tag line under the avatar ;)

And thanks guys.  I'm doing OK, but it's still really hard.  It's been over a week and it still doesn't feel real.  But I think I'll be alright in time. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 11, 2014, 07:49:00 pm
Sorry to rain on the random stuff parade, but my girlfriend of three years and I broke up and since my avatar is a painting of a bridge she made, I think it's time for a new avatar... Probably Dominion themed.  Anyone have any suggestions?
Ruined Village? Survivors? Sea Hag? Madman? Rebuild?
Well if DXV suggests one, I guess I have to go with that one.

Stache.
You saw my post in the "Post your picture" thread didn't you...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on August 11, 2014, 07:55:52 pm
Sorry to rain on the random stuff parade, but my girlfriend of three years and I broke up and since my avatar is a painting of a bridge she made, I think it's time for a new avatar... Probably Dominion themed.  Anyone have any suggestions?
Ruined Village? Survivors? Sea Hag? Madman? Rebuild?
Well if DXV suggests one, I guess I have to go with that one.

Stache.
You saw my post in the "Post your picture" thread didn't you...

I said "awww that's sad" out loud when I read your post and then I showed all my friends your epic 'stache.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 11, 2014, 08:00:02 pm
Awwww, thanks DSell  :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 11, 2014, 10:51:12 pm
Sorry to hear that Ahoppy -- I know it's tough to believe but it gets better eventually!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 11, 2014, 11:47:01 pm
Thanks TA.

I changed it, I can't remember if anyone else is apothecary or not...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 11, 2014, 11:49:03 pm
Thanks TA.

I changed it, I can't remember if anyone else is apothecary or not...

But... why is it not square?

I am sorry to hear that news as well; I have not experienced enough of life to truly relate to you I think.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 12, 2014, 12:17:56 am
Thanks TA.

I changed it, I can't remember if anyone else is apothecary or not...

But... why is it not square?

I am sorry to hear that news as well; I have not experienced enough of life to truly relate to you I think.
That's how I cropped it... I got the most of the card that I could.  My last one wasn't square...

and wow, I think that's the first time someone has told me I've experienced more of life than them :P  But I thank you as well
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 12, 2014, 01:18:58 am
My game with FTTW just now. FTTW was trying something with Scout:

KingZog3: still not sure where Scout fits in
F T T W: scout always fits in
KingZog3: that's what she said
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 12, 2014, 07:13:26 am
Someone is definitely already apothecary. I do not believe anyone has currently taken Prince, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 12, 2014, 08:01:09 am
Well, I'm finally getting the butt surgery.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 12, 2014, 08:16:06 am
Well, I'm finally getting the butt surgery.

So which part of you is the butt?  I mean, you seem like you are this amalgamated blob that has no real body parts except eyes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 12, 2014, 08:54:53 am
Someone is definitely already apothecary. I do not believe anyone has currently taken Prince, though.
Ok, I don't think anyone is harvest though, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 12, 2014, 09:13:19 am
Someone is definitely already apothecary. I do not believe anyone has currently taken Prince, though.
Ok, I don't think anyone is harvest though, right?
you don't have to look like a card yknow?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 12, 2014, 10:43:52 am
Someone is definitely already apothecary. I do not believe anyone has currently taken Prince, though.
Ok, I don't think anyone is harvest though, right?
you don't have to look like a card yknow?

You don't have to, but it is a dominion forum.

Also, no one has taken Chancellor, Envoy, any of the Guilds cards, Village, Worker's Village, Explorer, Bank....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 12, 2014, 11:03:43 am
Someone is definitely already apothecary. I do not believe anyone has currently taken Prince, though.
Ok, I don't think anyone is harvest though, right?
you don't have to look like a card yknow?

You don't have to, but it is a dominion forum.

Also, no one has taken Chancellor, Envoy, any of the Guilds cards, Village, Worker's Village, Explorer, Bank....
Oh come on, TA is Envoy and so is one other person.  And I know there are some guilds people out there.  and Lekkit is explorer I think.  And I want to use a card because it helps remind me that it is indeed a dominion forum, even if that isn't really why I visit it much anymore...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 12, 2014, 11:08:11 am
Someone is definitely already apothecary. I do not believe anyone has currently taken Prince, though.
Ok, I don't think anyone is harvest though, right?
you don't have to look like a card yknow?

You don't have to, but it is a dominion forum.

Also, no one has taken Chancellor, Envoy, any of the Guilds cards, Village, Worker's Village, Explorer, Bank....
Oh come on, TA is Envoy and so is one other person.  And I know there are some guilds people out there.  and Lekkit is explorer I think.  And I want to use a card because it helps remind me that it is indeed a dominion forum, even if that isn't really why I visit it much anymore...

How about Ace of Spades?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 12, 2014, 11:15:29 am
Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but whenever I check the new posts to this thread, my browser always scrolls down to the post just below the oldest post I haven't read, effectively skipping a post. I think it only happens in this thread. Does anybody else have this issue?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 12, 2014, 11:16:37 am
Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but whenever I check the new posts to this thread, my browser always scrolls down to the post just below the oldest post I haven't read, effectively skipping a post. I think it only happens in this thread. Does anybody else have this issue?
This has been mentioned already. Apparently, everyone else has this issue as well. And it's not just new posts, but any link to a particular post (such as in a quote tag, or on the Show posts page of a user profile) does that if the post in question is the last post on a page.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 12, 2014, 11:19:38 am
Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but whenever I check the new posts to this thread, my browser always scrolls down to the post just below the oldest post I haven't read, effectively skipping a post. I think it only happens in this thread. Does anybody else have this issue?
This has been mentioned already. Apparently, everyone else has this issue as well. And it's not just new posts, but any link to a particular post (such as in a quote tag, or on the Show posts page of a user profile) does that if the post in question is the last post on a page.

OK, thanks. That's what I get for being late to the party. :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on August 12, 2014, 11:28:15 am
I've seen that complaint multiple times and had no idea what people were on about: I'm always taken to the top of the page.  It turns out you can click on the "new" tag.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 12, 2014, 11:45:06 am
Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but whenever I check the new posts to this thread, my browser always scrolls down to the post just below the oldest post I haven't read, effectively skipping a post. I think it only happens in this thread. Does anybody else have this issue?
This has been mentioned already. Apparently, everyone else has this issue as well. And it's not just new posts, but any link to a particular post (such as in a quote tag, or on the Show posts page of a user profile) does that if the post in question is the last post on a page.

I don't have that issue, but I do recall a few people discussing it a while back.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 12, 2014, 11:46:52 am
I've seen that complaint multiple times and had no idea what people were on about: I'm always taken to the top of the page.  It turns out you can click on the "new" tag.

Oh wow, that would explain why I've been in the dark.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on August 12, 2014, 01:15:45 pm
Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but whenever I check the new posts to this thread, my browser always scrolls down to the post just below the oldest post I haven't read, effectively skipping a post. I think it only happens in this thread. Does anybody else have this issue?
This has been mentioned already. Apparently, everyone else has this issue as well. And it's not just new posts, but any link to a particular post (such as in a quote tag, or on the Show posts page of a user profile) does that if the post in question is the last post on a page.
I'm wondering if we link far enough back we can find the culprit post that's causing the issue
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 12, 2014, 01:46:49 pm
I just noticed that the Quote button has quotation marks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 12, 2014, 07:55:20 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 12, 2014, 08:02:52 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 12, 2014, 08:09:01 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Axxle on August 12, 2014, 08:33:57 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
subpar is just a letter off from superb, you're close!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 12, 2014, 08:37:04 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
subpar is just a letter off from superb, you're close!

A letter and a permutation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 12, 2014, 11:30:37 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 12, 2014, 11:35:08 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?

Birdie-ghetti?
Eagle-ghetti?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 12, 2014, 11:37:55 pm
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 12, 2014, 11:45:55 pm
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.

Hurts? From laughter?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 12, 2014, 11:52:17 pm
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.

Hurts? From laughter?

His stomach hurts from the subparghetti.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 13, 2014, 12:02:19 am
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.

Hurts? From laughter?

His stomach hurts from the subparghetti.

What hurts is you putting yourself in your signature... and my subparghetti. It wasn't so good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 13, 2014, 12:04:51 am
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.

Hurts? From laughter?

His stomach hurts from the subparghetti.

What hurts is you putting yourself in your signature... and my subparghetti. It wasn't so good.

You're just jealous because you're signatureless!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 13, 2014, 12:07:31 am
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.

Hurts? From laughter?

His stomach hurts from the subparghetti.

What hurts is you putting yourself in your signature... and my subparghetti. It wasn't so good.

You're just jealous because you're signatureless!

I'm quite happy signatureless, thank you!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 13, 2014, 12:07:34 am
You know I didn't make up the word scumslip, right?  It pre-dates me on this forum, even.

Also, the "a" is not capitalized.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 13, 2014, 12:11:05 am
You know I didn't make up the word scumslip, right?  It pre-dates me on this forum, even.

Also, the "a" is not capitalized.

Oh burrrrnnnnn!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 13, 2014, 12:32:43 am
You know I didn't make up the word scumslip, right?  It pre-dates me on this forum, even.

Also, the "a" is not capitalized.

Oh burrrrnnnnn!
You would want people to burn.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 13, 2014, 08:31:52 am
There is a baseball on my desk at work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 13, 2014, 09:00:02 am
There is a baseball on my desk at work.

Mine too!  Actually, many baseballs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 13, 2014, 09:04:35 am
At my work, for a time, they gave baseballs as recognition for "knocking it out of the park". I have never been awarded one but when they laid off a guy who had received one I took his and put it on my desk.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Lekkit on August 13, 2014, 09:12:37 am
and Lekkit is explorer I think.

For some reason I found it weird that you knew this. I don't post much here anymore.

Regardless of that, I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 13, 2014, 09:29:44 am
At my work, for a time, they gave baseballs as recognition for "knocking it out of the park". I have never been awarded one but when they laid off a guy who had received one I took his and put it on my desk.

That's how you climb the corporate ladder alright.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 13, 2014, 10:17:08 am
There is a baseball on my desk at work.

Mine too!  Actually, many baseballs.
There's a mine on pingpongsam's desk at work? How would you know this?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 13, 2014, 10:37:49 am
There is a baseball on my desk at work.

Mine too!  Actually, many baseballs.
There's a mine on pingpongsam's desk at work? How would you know this?

I think we need a default foghorn meme just for Awaclus.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: heron on August 13, 2014, 11:00:40 am
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.

That's cool. Are you playing music?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 13, 2014, 11:23:24 am
Stop! It hurts!

Oh hey heron, I'll be in your neighborhood in a couple weeks.

That's cool. Are you playing music?

Yeah I'll shoot you a PM in a little bit.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 13, 2014, 12:01:05 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?

Birdie-ghetti?
Eagle-ghetti?

Sub-par:  Good in golf, where the word originated, yet bad everywhere else.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 13, 2014, 12:17:27 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?

Birdie-ghetti?
Eagle-ghetti?

Sub-par:  Good in golf, where the word originated, yet bad everywhere else.

Which isn't strange at all. Par is the expected amount or value. In golf you want to be under it, in life you want to be over it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 13, 2014, 12:18:28 pm
I find it amusing when people are seriously replying to Salvager's automated explanation for being kicked from my game, thinking that I actually wrote it. Naturally, the people who're just asking what isotropish is aren't particularly amusing, it's somehow very funny when I get responses like "fine! i just like to play".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on August 13, 2014, 12:20:06 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?

Birdie-ghetti?
Eagle-ghetti?

Sub-par:  Good in golf, where the word originated, yet bad everywhere else.

Which isn't strange at all. Par is the expected amount or value. In golf you want to be under it, in life you want to be over it.
super-par should be a term.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 13, 2014, 12:21:07 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?

Birdie-ghetti?
Eagle-ghetti?

Sub-par:  Good in golf, where the word originated, yet bad everywhere else.

Probably has something to do with golf being a sub-par sport.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 13, 2014, 03:02:19 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6jN0e7ivA
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 13, 2014, 03:19:07 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?

Birdie-ghetti?
Eagle-ghetti?

Sub-par:  Good in golf, where the word originated, yet bad everywhere else.

Probably has something to do with golf being a sub-par sport.

whoa, careful what you say there
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 13, 2014, 03:21:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/tr3D3ii.gif) (http://imgur.com/gallery/tr3D3ii)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 13, 2014, 03:58:52 pm
Not even sure what to say about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4aQZMhNqUI

Oh, also hilarious behind-the-gif: http://imgur.com/gallery/CfSQj
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 13, 2014, 04:45:33 pm
That was totally a knock-out punch. Clear connection to the chin forcing the cranium back and shocking the spinal column. So, that the guy went down with one lick is not really remarkable at all.

Remarkable things:
The victor was considerate enough to fix the mirror before he left the scene.
At least 8 people ignored the fact that a fellow human being might possibly might be dead or dying.
The person who did finally stop had a child with him.
Once an actual human being paid attention to the injured other people at least acted as if he existed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 13, 2014, 04:49:02 pm
That was totally a knock-out punch. Clear connection to the chin forcing the cranium back and shocking the spinal column. So, that the guy went down with one lick is not really remarkable at all.

Remarkable things:
The victor was considerate enough to fix the mirror before he left the scene.
At least 8 people ignored the fact that a fellow human being might possibly might be dead or dying.
The person who did finally stop had a child with him.
Once an actual human being paid attention to the injured other people at least acted as if he existed.

Also remarkable the way the people standing right next to it casually side-stepped, like you would if another passenger was trying to get onto the subway.  "Oh, you have to go clock that guy?  Sorry, let me give you an extra six inches of room."  Zero reaction to the punch itself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 13, 2014, 04:49:46 pm
That was totally a knock-out punch. Clear connection to the chin forcing the cranium back and shocking the spinal column. So, that the guy went down with one lick is not really remarkable at all.

Remarkable things:
The victor was considerate enough to fix the mirror before he left the scene.
At least 8 people ignored the fact that a fellow human being might possibly might be dead or dying.
The person who did finally stop had a child with him.
Once an actual human being paid attention to the injured other people at least acted as if he existed.

Sounds like the bystander effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 13, 2014, 04:56:04 pm
That was totally a knock-out punch. Clear connection to the chin forcing the cranium back and shocking the spinal column. So, that the guy went down with one lick is not really remarkable at all.

Remarkable things:
The victor was considerate enough to fix the mirror before he left the scene.
At least 8 people ignored the fact that a fellow human being might possibly might be dead or dying.
The person who did finally stop had a child with him.
Once an actual human being paid attention to the injured other people at least acted as if he existed.

Sounds like the bystander effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect).

Which apparently I am immune to. There have been several instances in my life where drastic circumstances or crisis were underway (a person having a seizure under strobe lights, a person hit by a car, etc.) and I was the only one able to take action and actually break other people out of what appeared to be a trance. That Wikipedia article acts as if there is some excuse for being callous to humanity but I think it is indicative of deep societal psychosis.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 13, 2014, 04:57:12 pm
Oh hey PPS, we need one more player:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11542.0
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 13, 2014, 05:00:57 pm
That was totally a knock-out punch. Clear connection to the chin forcing the cranium back and shocking the spinal column. So, that the guy went down with one lick is not really remarkable at all.

Remarkable things:
The victor was considerate enough to fix the mirror before he left the scene.
At least 8 people ignored the fact that a fellow human being might possibly might be dead or dying.
The person who did finally stop had a child with him.
Once an actual human being paid attention to the injured other people at least acted as if he existed.

Sounds like the bystander effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect).

Which apparently I am immune to. There have been several instances in my life where drastic circumstances or crisis were underway (a person having a seizure under strobe lights, a person hit by a car, etc.) and I was the only one able to take action and actually break other people out of what appeared to be a trance. That Wikipedia article acts as if there is some excuse for being callous to humanity but I think it is indicative of deep societal psychosis.

I don't think it's meant as an excuse, but merely as an explanation of an actual, demonstrable psychological effect.  The article gives some explanations for it.  The fact that individuals do help indicate that it isn't some "deep societal psychosis".
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 13, 2014, 06:17:48 pm
I just made sub-par spaghetti.
sub-parghetti?

No.

Scout-ghetti?

Birdie-ghetti?
Eagle-ghetti?

Sub-par:  Good in golf, where the word originated, yet bad everywhere else.

Probably has something to do with golf being a sub-par sport.
Woah now... Golf is great.  I would not call it a sport though, more of a game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on August 14, 2014, 12:34:56 am
Golf is indeed a sport requiring athletic ability, flexibility, and strength.

I forgot I owned Eraser. Seems ironic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 14, 2014, 01:19:43 am
Golf is indeed a sport requiring athletic ability, flexibility, and strength.
I agree wholeheartedly, but as I have heard it, one of the definitions for a sport is the ability to play defensively.  And well, that doesn't really exist in golf.  Your actions (generally) don't impact the other players.  Although, that doesn't really make it a game either....
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 14, 2014, 01:51:31 am
Golf is indeed a sport requiring athletic ability, flexibility, and strength.
I agree wholeheartedly, but as I have heard it, one of the definitions for a sport is the ability to play defensively.  And well, that doesn't really exist in golf.  Your actions (generally) don't impact the other players.  Although, that doesn't really make it a game either....

You just aren't good enough yet.  When I'm behind, I'll usually hit my ball into theirs at an angle which forces it into a water hazard or alligator.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on August 14, 2014, 02:08:35 am
Golf is indeed a sport requiring athletic ability, flexibility, and strength.
I agree wholeheartedly, but as I have heard it, one of the definitions for a sport is the ability to play defensively.  And well, that doesn't really exist in golf.  Your actions (generally) don't impact the other players.  Although, that doesn't really make it a game either....

In contrast to that, offensively golf is a sport based on scoring, and defensively based on giving yourself an advantage over your opponent. Match play golf has almost chess-like defense 

Besides, plenty of other games are called sports that don't require much athletic ability or defense. NASCAR.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 14, 2014, 08:09:18 am
Besides, plenty of other games are called sports that don't require much athletic ability or defense. NASCAR.

NASCAR requires requires drivers to have a surprising amount of fitness to anyone who thinks it is merely people driving around in circles for hours on end.  The conditions inside the car get very extreme and drivers can lose between 5-10 pounds of water over the course of a race.  Being able to cope and especially win under those conditions requires some fitness. 

Disclaimer:  Why do I know this?  Because I am living in Southeast and know a bunch of crazy NASCAR fans.  I mean, who in their right mind actually watches cars drive around in circles for hours on end?  Not me.  Seriously, if you are going to watch racing at least watch something like F1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 14, 2014, 08:13:26 am
I think NASCAR is an American travesty but I hold no illusion that it takes anything less than a highly trained, extremely fit and tightly focused individual to compete in what is by all rights, albeit somewhat unfortunately, a sport.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 14, 2014, 08:14:20 am
Golf is indeed a sport requiring athletic ability, flexibility, and strength.
I agree wholeheartedly, but as I have heard it, one of the definitions for a sport is the ability to play defensively.  And well, that doesn't really exist in golf.  Your actions (generally) don't impact the other players.  Although, that doesn't really make it a game either....

Solitaire is usually considered a game (although hopefully not a sport).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 14, 2014, 09:18:51 am
I think NASCAR is an American travesty but I hold no illusion that it takes anything less than a highly trained, extremely fit and tightly focused individual to compete in what is by all rights, albeit somewhat unfortunately, a sport.

Plus, you have to be really poor and stupid (http://southpark.cc.com/clips/359093/not-poor-and-stupid-enough).
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 14, 2014, 10:49:04 am
I've had a lot of long discussions with people over the technical definition of a sport, and it's funny because there's no universal definition that satisfies everyone (i.e., includes everything they want to include and excludes everything they want to exclude).

If you think you've got a good definition, I encourage you to think through how it interacts with these 'edge cases':

* Solitaire
* Billiards
* Track & field
* NASCAR
* Golf
* League of Legends/Starcraft/"e-sports"
* Bridge
* Gymnastics
* Hunting
* Equestrian
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 14, 2014, 11:15:31 am
Relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4w7H48tBS8
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 14, 2014, 11:53:44 am
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on August 14, 2014, 11:55:25 am
Relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4w7H48tBS8

This is the first time I watch part of a George Carlin routine. Is he supposed to be funny? This was pure demagogue's show. There's plenty of silly things in golf to make a stand-up comedy around it, no need to stay at the easy "rich people are silly" level.

Maybe that's a pet peeve of mine. I like the stand-up comedy format, and I pay to go see it. Please don't give me populist speeches on politics/social issues because you like the applause you get out of it; I could get that for free on TV if I wanted to, thanks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 14, 2014, 12:10:16 pm
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.
Too... Many... Negatives... Does... Not... Compute...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 14, 2014, 12:13:30 pm
Relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4w7H48tBS8

This is the first time I watch part of a George Carlin routine. Is he supposed to be funny? This was pure demagogue's show. There's plenty of silly things in golf to make a stand-up comedy around it, no need to stay at the easy "rich people are silly" level.

Maybe that's a pet peeve of mine. I like the stand-up comedy format, and I pay to go see it. Please don't give me populist speeches on politics/social issues because you like the applause you get out of it; I could get that for free on TV if I wanted to, thanks.

Carlin does a bunch of that kind of stuff, but its not all like that. His airplane stuff is classic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 14, 2014, 12:18:21 pm
Relevant:

..

This is the first time I watch part of a George Carlin routine. Is he supposed to be funny? This was pure demagogue's show. There's plenty of silly things in golf to make a stand-up comedy around it, no need to stay at the easy "rich people are silly" level.

Maybe that's a pet peeve of mine. I like the stand-up comedy format, and I pay to go see it. Please don't give me populist speeches on politics/social issues because you like the applause you get out of it; I could get that for free on TV if I wanted to, thanks.

I think there's more going on there.. for Carlin it's a lot about the perfomance and delivery.  I find him funny even if I the jokes don't resonate with me at some level.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 14, 2014, 12:20:19 pm
I actually wanted to link the video where he argues there are only three sports, but I couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 14, 2014, 12:23:41 pm
This is the first time I watch part of a George Carlin routine. Is he supposed to be funny? This was pure demagogue's show. There's plenty of silly things in golf to make a stand-up comedy around it, no need to stay at the easy "rich people are silly" level.

Maybe that's a pet peeve of mine. I like the stand-up comedy format, and I pay to go see it. Please don't give me populist speeches on politics/social issues because you like the applause you get out of it; I could get that for free on TV if I wanted to, thanks.

That's probably a bad Carlin clip to start with then.  He became much more political later in his life, and it crept into his routines.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 14, 2014, 06:31:57 pm
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.

Ahh, the noble sport of Potty.  Played worldwide, and almost every child plays it at some point in their lives.  Most are just raring to go, though it takes a while before you get good at it.  If only the Olympics would recognize this time honoured tradition.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: LastFootnote on August 14, 2014, 06:34:37 pm
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.

Ahh, the noble sport of Potty.  Played worldwide, and almost every child plays it at some point in their lives.  Most are just raring to go, though it takes a while before you get good at it.  If only the Olympics would recognize this time honoured tradition.

I train every day, yet I'm still not at the Olympic level.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 14, 2014, 07:26:09 pm
Somehow this is relevant: Olympic divers photoshopped onto toilets

(http://i.imgur.com/tATDI.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: mail-mi on August 14, 2014, 07:35:48 pm
Ahh, the noble sport of Potty.  Played worldwide, and almost every child plays it at some point in their lives.  Most are just raring to go, though it takes a while before you get good at it.  If only the Olympics would recognize this time honoured tradition.
that's signature stuff right there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: ashersky on August 14, 2014, 07:42:00 pm
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.

I'm pretty sure that's a language thing.  Baseball/football/soccer/etc. sports practice in the United States, not train.  It's training in the UK and Australia, though, for the same sports.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on August 14, 2014, 08:00:54 pm
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.

I'm pretty sure that's a language thing.  Baseball/football/soccer/etc. sports practice in the United States, not train.  It's training in the UK and Australia, though, for the same sports.

This. That seems like a pretty poor definition to me.

Also, I really don't think it's productive to debate the classification of certain activities as sports or not. Why does it really matter whether we call it a sport? The only consistent consequence I see to these debates is that people who participate in or enjoy watching the sport/not sport under discussion get offended to varying degrees. I got in lots of these arguments both when I ran and when I rowed before eventually realizing that they weren't really getting anyone anywhere and I didn't care that much what the dissenters thought.

I'm fine saying that golf is a sport. Whatever, we can classify it as that. Like a number of other sports, I don't find it particularly interesting to watch or play, but that doesn't mean I need to challenge its categorization.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 14, 2014, 08:54:45 pm
I have 2 mutual friends (on FB) with one of this years Fields Medal winners.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 14, 2014, 09:34:16 pm
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.

I'm pretty sure that's a language thing.  Baseball/football/soccer/etc. sports practice in the United States, not train.  It's training in the UK and Australia, though, for the same sports.

This. That seems like a pretty poor definition to me.

Also, I really don't think it's productive to debate the classification of certain activities as sports or not. Why does it really matter whether we call it a sport? The only consistent consequence I see to these debates is that people who participate in or enjoy watching the sport/not sport under discussion get offended to varying degrees. I got in lots of these arguments both when I ran and when I rowed before eventually realizing that they weren't really getting anyone anywhere and I didn't care that much what the dissenters thought.

I'm fine saying that golf is a sport. Whatever, we can classify it as that. Like a number of other sports, I don't find it particularly interesting to watch or play, but that doesn't mean I need to challenge its categorization.

Let me get this straight, you were running and rowing and still got nowhere?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 14, 2014, 09:37:36 pm
It's not a sport if you don't use the word "training" and not "practicing" when you're trying to get better at it.

I'm pretty sure that's a language thing.  Baseball/football/soccer/etc. sports practice in the United States, not train.  It's training in the UK and Australia, though, for the same sports.

This. That seems like a pretty poor definition to me.

Also, I really don't think it's productive to debate the classification of certain activities as sports or not. Why does it really matter whether we call it a sport? The only consistent consequence I see to these debates is that people who participate in or enjoy watching the sport/not sport under discussion get offended to varying degrees. I got in lots of these arguments both when I ran and when I rowed before eventually realizing that they weren't really getting anyone anywhere and I didn't care that much what the dissenters thought.

I'm fine saying that golf is a sport. Whatever, we can classify it as that. Like a number of other sports, I don't find it particularly interesting to watch or play, but that doesn't mean I need to challenge its categorization.

Let me get this straight, you were running and rowing and still got nowhere?

It's not easy to row while you're running.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 14, 2014, 09:42:14 pm
10 more posts until 5000
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 14, 2014, 09:43:18 pm
well, I lied now that I think about it.  8 more posts until post 5000, 9 until reply 5000
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 14, 2014, 10:05:32 pm
well, I lied now that I think about it.  8 more posts until post 5000, 9 until reply 5000

No, 58 or 59.

EDIT: Well, now 57 or 58.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: liopoil on August 14, 2014, 10:10:51 pm
If we keep posting about how far it is until 5000, we'll get there soon enough!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 14, 2014, 10:42:01 pm
If we keep posting about how far it is until 5000, we'll get there soon enough!

Great.  f.DS is now 4chan.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 14, 2014, 10:42:39 pm
I have 2 mutual friends (on FB) with one of this years Fields Medal winners.

Does that mean you have an Erdos number?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AHoppy on August 14, 2014, 11:51:47 pm
In other golf-related news:  Last weekend, I played and shot my worst round of this year (109).  Which is really bad for me.  Today, I played again and going into the 18th hole I needed a double bogey to break 90.  (Context: I've only broken 90 twice before in my life, so it was a pretty good round)  What do I do?  Leave my double bogey putt 2 inches short and make a triple.  Disappointing and frustrating way to end the round, but still very happy with it. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 14, 2014, 11:53:47 pm
I have 2 mutual friends (on FB) with one of this years Fields Medal winners.

Hooray sports!
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 15, 2014, 12:03:03 am
I have 2 mutual friends (on FB) with one of this years Fields Medal winners.

Does that mean you have an Erdos number?

Oh yeah, you could say I have a Bacon number of three, if you count friends as a way to get started.  Someone I know knew Tom Hanks as a kid.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Dsell on August 15, 2014, 12:40:37 am
I have 2 mutual friends (on FB) with one of this years Fields Medal winners.

Does that mean you have an Erdos number?

Oh yeah, you could say I have a Bacon number of three, if you count friends as a way to get started.  Someone I know knew Tom Hanks as a kid.

TIL I have a Bacon number of four. (If people you know on the internet count)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: qmech on August 15, 2014, 04:37:33 am
I have an Erdős number of 2.  My Bacon number is infinite.

The interesting people are those with large but finite Erdős number.  The Erdős number project reckon that (http://www.oakland.edu/enp/trivia/) the record is 13, achieved by 5 people, which is much more exclusive than Erdős number 1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on August 15, 2014, 05:51:31 am
I have an Erdős number of 2.  My Bacon number is infinite.

The interesting people are those with large but finite Erdős number.  The Erdős number project reckon that (http://www.oakland.edu/enp/trivia/) the record is 13, achieved by 5 people, which is much more exclusive than Erdős number 1.
Congrats with your Erdős number of 2. That's much more exclusive than my Erdős number of 4. ;)
The problem with the large Erdős numbers is that it's hard (impossible?) to conclusively determine that someone's Erdős number is large (but finite). Adding one previously missed paper to the database can severely decrease those Erdős numbers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 15, 2014, 07:28:33 am
In other golf-related news:  Last weekend, I played and shot my worst round of this year (109).  Which is really bad for me.  Today, I played again and going into the 18th hole I needed a double bogey to break 90.  (Context: I've only broken 90 twice before in my life, so it was a pretty good round)  What do I do?  Leave my double bogey putt 2 inches short and make a triple.  Disappointing and frustrating way to end the round, but still very happy with it.

That's golf for you.  You play a horrible round but have one or two great shots or holes, or play a great round and have one or two holes that just ruin it.  Either way, it keeps you coming back. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 15, 2014, 09:16:34 am
I don't have an Erdos number or a Bacon number (as far as I know... I have appeared in some things made at summer camps, so it wouldn't surprise me). To have an Erdos number I would first need to publish a mathematical paper, which I haven't.

Edit: Actually, in one of the summer camp videos I was in, so was someone who was an extra in the first Harry Potter Movie. So yeah I very likely do have a Bacon number.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 15, 2014, 09:33:46 am
On a somewhat related topic, one of my grad school professors, who was also on my thesis committee, was a student of Niernberg.  I was intimidating having him on my committee.  When I gave him my thesis to look over and comment on, I thought he'd come back and say "well, this is all trivial and obvious, and all around unnecessary."  When I talked to him after looking over it, instead of commenting on any of the mathematics or content, all he had to say was a suggestion about LaTeX formatting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: jonts26 on August 15, 2014, 03:47:43 pm
On a somewhat related topic, one of my grad school professors, who was also on my thesis committee, was a student of Niernberg.  I was intimidating having him on my committee.  When I gave him my thesis to look over and comment on, I thought he'd come back and say "well, this is all trivial and obvious, and all around unnecessary."  When I talked to him after looking over it, instead of commenting on any of the mathematics or content, all he had to say was a suggestion about LaTeX formatting.

This is standard practice for thesis committees I've found.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 15, 2014, 05:37:31 pm
Okay so is there a minimum standard for the films involved, or the role a person played, for a Bacon number to count? Because if not my Bacon number is 3:

Kevin Bacon was in The Big Picture (1989) with John Cleese
John Cleese was in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001) with my friend who was an extra
My friend who was an extra was in various mini-films made at our summer camp with me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: SirPeebles on August 15, 2014, 07:28:04 pm
Okay so is there a minimum standard for the films involved, or the role a person played, for a Bacon number to count? Because if not my Bacon number is 3:

Kevin Bacon was in The Big Picture (1989) with John Cleese
John Cleese was in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001) with my friend who was an extra
My friend who was an extra was in various mini-films made at our summer camp with me.

And you're in YouTube videos with NoMoreFun, Joseph, and RTT.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 15, 2014, 11:22:56 pm
Okay so is there a minimum standard for the films involved, or the role a person played, for a Bacon number to count? Because if not my Bacon number is 3:

Kevin Bacon was in The Big Picture (1989) with John Cleese
John Cleese was in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001) with my friend who was an extra
My friend who was an extra was in various mini-films made at our summer camp with me.

And you're in YouTube videos with NoMoreFun, Joseph, and RTT.

So all our Bacon numbers are 4, except tables which is 3?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 16, 2014, 08:12:38 am
I don't think a youtube video which I did nothing more than appear in text counts as a film...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pacovf on August 16, 2014, 08:26:07 am
Okay so is there a minimum standard for the films involved, or the role a person played, for a Bacon number to count? Because if not my Bacon number is 3:

Kevin Bacon was in The Big Picture (1989) with John Cleese
John Cleese was in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001) with my friend who was an extra
My friend who was an extra was in various mini-films made at our summer camp with me.

And you're in YouTube videos with NoMoreFun, Joseph, and RTT.

So all our Bacon numbers are 4, except tables which is 3?

Mmm... bacon on the table...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 16, 2014, 09:04:10 am
Related song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrFTR9fucr8
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 16, 2014, 10:11:13 am
Related song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrFTR9fucr8

If I could understand what they were saying, maybe I'd know if it were related or not.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 16, 2014, 10:27:41 am
Related song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrFTR9fucr8

If I could understand what they were saying, maybe I'd know if it were related or not.
Well, the lyrics aren't related, just the song.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: florrat on August 16, 2014, 02:42:49 pm
The band Yousei Teikoku is awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHuGycQXxE
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 16, 2014, 02:47:53 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VAfLNHd.gif) (http://imgur.com/gallery/VAfLNHd)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 16, 2014, 03:49:57 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VAfLNHd.gif) (http://imgur.com/gallery/VAfLNHd)

Seems like a (reversed) rip off of this to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscOE4sSYOo
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 16, 2014, 05:21:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VAfLNHd.gif) (http://imgur.com/gallery/VAfLNHd)

Seems like a (reversed) rip off of this to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscOE4sSYOo

You stinker, I was going to post that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: enfynet on August 16, 2014, 05:33:00 pm
Okay so is there a minimum standard for the films involved, or the role a person played, for a Bacon number to count? Because if not my Bacon number is 3:

Kevin Bacon was in The Big Picture (1989) with John Cleese
John Cleese was in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001) with my friend who was an extra
My friend who was an extra was in various mini-films made at our summer camp with me.

And you're in YouTube videos with NoMoreFun, Joseph, and RTT.

So all our Bacon numbers are 4, except tables which is 3?
Pretty sure mine is also 3. My great uncle Wes Craven has a Bacon number of 2, through various ties.
http://oracleofbacon.org/movielinks.php
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Awaclus on August 16, 2014, 07:24:13 pm
I just joined a game called "casual fun" on Goko since there wasn't a Pro game around. I opened Doctor/Sea Hag, they collided on t3 with three Coppers, so I took the risk and named Estate and revealed three Estates. My opponent complained about my luck and resigned. Such a fun casual game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: pingpongsam on August 16, 2014, 09:18:48 pm
Baby demonstrated breath holding spells today for the first time. If you've never seen them they look like a seizure. Fun trip to the hospital to learn what is really going on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 17, 2014, 12:17:41 pm
I'm battling a fly for my breakfast right now. The fly is winning.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 17, 2014, 01:31:15 pm
I'm battling a fly for my breakfast right now. The fly is winning.

That's very sad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 17, 2014, 07:20:58 pm
Alright, so Excel/Google Docs buffs, I need some help. I'm trying to upload some data onto a website - in particular a wiki. There's a spreadsheet that has all the data, so I've written some formulae that put it all into nice, easy to copy-paste cells which do everything like making the tables, inserting the relevant images, all that jazz nice and easily. I was pretty happy it was all lined up and ready to work perfectly, so I went to copy and paste the data in...

And for some reason, regardless of if I copy from Excel or Google Spreadsheets, the data gets extra quotation marks around each and every cell that I'm trying to paste. Which is a lot of them (in total it should come to around 1,000 or so, far too many to remove by hand). From a little looking online I gather it occurs due to having line breaks in the cells (kinda necessary for formatting). But I can't find a solution that works sensibly.

So the question: Does anyone know any way to stop automatically adding quote marks when pasting data that spans multiple lines in a single cell? Either an Excel or a docs solution is fine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 17, 2014, 08:32:51 pm
I'm battling a fly for my breakfast right now. The fly is winning.

That's very sad.

You're very sad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 17, 2014, 08:33:38 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 17, 2014, 08:54:03 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

But you're not post 5000 ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 17, 2014, 09:50:57 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

....and we are still on page 100.  Seriously, why doesn't everyone change their settings to 50 posts per page?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 17, 2014, 09:52:36 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

....and we are still on page 100.  Seriously, why doesn't everyone change their settings to 50 posts per page?

Why did you?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 17, 2014, 09:53:14 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

....and we are still on page 100.  Seriously, why doesn't everyone change their settings to 50 posts per page?

Why did you?

mafia
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 17, 2014, 09:53:56 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

....and we are still on page 100.  Seriously, why doesn't everyone change their settings to 50 posts per page?

Why did you?

mafia

I actually like smaller pages for mafia, because if I'm reading a bunch of stuff and have to leave in the middle, it's easier to find where I was.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 17, 2014, 09:54:03 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

....and we are still on page 100.  Seriously, why doesn't everyone change their settings to 50 posts per page?

25 is ample as a default, and it makes people talking about page numbers much easier to track - especially for forum games like Mafia and whatnot where page numbers are often referenced. If the default were something silly like 10 (I'm looking at you, GFAQs) then I'd agree, but here... 25 is fine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 17, 2014, 10:02:59 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

....and we are still on page 100.  Seriously, why doesn't everyone change their settings to 50 posts per page?

Why did you?

mafia

I actually like smaller pages for mafia, because if I'm reading a bunch of stuff and have to leave in the middle, it's easier to find where I was.

you probably fold the corners of your books for place markers too, instead of just memorizing where you are at.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: sudgy on August 17, 2014, 10:08:30 pm
First post of page 200. I win the stuff.

....and we are still on page 100.  Seriously, why doesn't everyone change their settings to 50 posts per page?

Why did you?

mafia

I actually like smaller pages for mafia, because if I'm reading a bunch of stuff and have to leave in the middle, it's easier to find where I was.

you probably fold the corners of your books for place markers too, instead of just memorizing where you are at.

I usually use a bookmark.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 17, 2014, 10:11:59 pm
that works.  but now, back to randomness, this app is absolutely ridiculous.  (ignoring all of the technical problems still facing the app)

http://ignorenomoreapp.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 17, 2014, 10:30:20 pm
that works.  but now, back to randomness, this app is absolutely ridiculous.  (ignoring all of the technical problems still facing the app)

http://ignorenomoreapp.com/

Wow, that's...

"Ignore No More! is an app that helps parents to re-establish an open line of communication with their children."

/facepalm

Really, you're going to go with that?

And yet they're going to end up making money hand over fist selling to non-tech-savvy parents... while the kids disable it in multiple ways that get around it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: GeoLib on August 17, 2014, 11:15:30 pm
This seems like a great way to establish a close relationship with your children...
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 18, 2014, 11:25:05 am
Alright, so Excel/Google Docs buffs, I need some help. I'm trying to upload some data onto a website - in particular a wiki. There's a spreadsheet that has all the data, so I've written some formulae that put it all into nice, easy to copy-paste cells which do everything like making the tables, inserting the relevant images, all that jazz nice and easily. I was pretty happy it was all lined up and ready to work perfectly, so I went to copy and paste the data in...

And for some reason, regardless of if I copy from Excel or Google Spreadsheets, the data gets extra quotation marks around each and every cell that I'm trying to paste. Which is a lot of them (in total it should come to around 1,000 or so, far too many to remove by hand). From a little looking online I gather it occurs due to having line breaks in the cells (kinda necessary for formatting). But I can't find a solution that works sensibly.

So the question: Does anyone know any way to stop automatically adding quote marks when pasting data that spans multiple lines in a single cell? Either an Excel or a docs solution is fine.

Bringing this question back up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: theory on August 18, 2014, 11:31:04 am
Try pasting into Word.  For me, when I paste into Word it doesn't happen if I select the "Merge formatting" or "Source formatting" options.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Witherweaver on August 18, 2014, 11:48:18 am
Or could you just paste into notepad++ first?  Newlines should be preserved, which should enter into new cells when pasted into Excel, but no further formatting should happen.

Or you need to preserve line breaks within a cell?  I can't quite picture exactly what you want to do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Tables on August 18, 2014, 12:29:42 pm
Try pasting into Word.  For me, when I paste into Word it doesn't happen if I select the "Merge formatting" or "Source formatting" options.

Thanks, this worked.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 18, 2014, 12:51:09 pm
Hey silverspawn, "RIP" stands for "rest in peace" and "piece" has a different meaning than "peace". For example:

Lemme get a piece of dat peace pie!

And

Imma bake some peace pie in dis piece!

I hope that clears things up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Kirian on August 18, 2014, 01:09:12 pm
Hey silverspawn, "RIP" stands for "rest in peace" and "piece" has a different meaning than "peace". For example:

Lemme get a piece of dat peace pie!

And

Imma bake some peace pie in dis piece!

I hope that clears things up.

I may be wrong, but I think what he has there is intentional.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 18, 2014, 01:24:39 pm
Hey silverspawn, "RIP" stands for "rest in peace" and "piece" has a different meaning than "peace". For example:

Lemme get a piece of dat peace pie!

And

Imma bake some peace pie in dis piece!

I hope that clears things up.

I may be wrong, but I think what he has there is intentional.

What post are you two even referencing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: Archetype on August 18, 2014, 01:29:11 pm
Hey silverspawn, "RIP" stands for "rest in peace" and "piece" has a different meaning than "peace". For example:

Lemme get a piece of dat peace pie!

And

Imma bake some peace pie in dis piece!

I hope that clears things up.

I may be wrong, but I think what he has there is intentional.

What post are you two even referencing?
Silverspawn's signature. So, any of them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: KingZog3 on August 18, 2014, 01:30:47 pm
Speaking of signatures, I think Andrew is slowly making his way into all of ours.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 18, 2014, 02:49:17 pm
Speaking of signatures, I think Andrew is slowly making his way into all of ours.

That's the plan! I think you should find a real quote of mine though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 18, 2014, 03:11:23 pm
Speaking of signatures, I think Andrew is slowly making his way into all of ours.

That's the plan! I think you should find a real quote of mine though.

KingZog3's quote seems legit to me
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: eHalcyon on August 18, 2014, 05:04:25 pm
The winner of the 2014 Pokemon world championships (masters division) used a Pachirisu.  So awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 18, 2014, 05:07:16 pm
yes. that was totally intentional. :>

I made a small change
Title: Re: Random Stuff
Post by: silverspawn on August 18, 2014, 05:08:46 pm
#5000 Post!!