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Dominion => Puzzles and Challenges => Topic started by: cayvie on June 05, 2012, 01:12:11 pm

Title: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: cayvie on June 05, 2012, 01:12:11 pm: What do all these cards have in common, and what is the only other card in Dominion that shares that feature?

noble brigand
mining village
feast
swindler
masquerade
thief
jester
embargo
ambassador
mountebank
treasure map
saboteur
pirate ship

edit - i forgot bishop!
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: permanoob on June 06, 2012, 01:05:08 am: Do the card names have anything to do with it?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: kn1tt3r on June 06, 2012, 01:56:25 am: At first I thought it had something to do with "when played, can trash cards other than those in the player's hand", but Ambassador doesn't fit. Could be something along this line however.

Edit: Oh, and Mountebank doesn't fit either.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: cayvie on June 06, 2012, 01:58:55 am: Quote from: permanoob on June 06, 2012, 01:05:08 am
Do the card names have anything to do with it?

No
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: cayvie on June 06, 2012, 02:06:09 am: Hint #1:

These cards can be subdivided into two discrete categories, like so:

noble brigand, swindler, masquerade, thief, jester, ambassador, mountebank, saboteur, pirate ship, bishop

mining village, feast, embargo, treasure map.

The missing card fits in the first category.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: ArjanB on June 06, 2012, 03:40:33 am: Is the missing card Governor?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: cayvie on June 06, 2012, 05:05:23 am: Quote from: ArjanB on June 06, 2012, 03:40:33 am
Is the missing card Governor?

Correct :)

What's your reasoning?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: heatthespurs on June 07, 2012, 04:17:58 am: Anyone could explain the answer? i don't quite get it... :-\
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: cayvie on June 07, 2012, 05:58:41 am: Quote from: heatthespurs on June 07, 2012, 04:17:58 am
Anyone could explain the answer? i don't quite get it... :-\

Answer: These are all the cards that can return one player's gamestate to its starting state; 3 estates, 7 coppers, nothing else. At least, that's what I had in mind.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: heatthespurs on June 07, 2012, 06:57:48 am: Quote from: cayvie on June 07, 2012, 05:58:41 am
Quote from: heatthespurs on June 07, 2012, 04:17:58 am
Anyone could explain the answer? i don't quite get it... :-\

Answer: These are all the cards that can return one player's gamestate to its starting state; 3 estates, 7 coppers, nothing else. At least, that's what I had in mind.

Interesting idea! though how could mountebank accomplish this?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: Grujah on June 07, 2012, 06:59:59 am: No more curses in supply, your opponent has 6 coppers 3 Estates. You play it.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: Galzria on June 07, 2012, 09:19:01 am: How does Treasure Map fit then?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: Kirian on June 07, 2012, 09:26:34 am: Quote from: Galzria on June 07, 2012, 09:19:01 am
How does Treasure Map fit then?

It's possible to trash one Treasure Map without trashing a second one
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: Galzria on June 07, 2012, 09:35:43 am: Does Island get am honorable mention?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: cayvie on June 07, 2012, 05:41:03 pm: Quote from: Galzria on June 07, 2012, 09:35:43 am
Does Island get am honorable mention?

No. Islands are notoriously dishonorable places.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: ChocophileBenj on June 22, 2012, 08:05:48 am: And what about -----------Horn of Plenty-------- as another missing card ?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: GendoIkari on June 22, 2012, 08:57:06 am: Quote from: Kirian on June 07, 2012, 09:26:34 am
Quote from: Galzria on June 07, 2012, 09:19:01 am
How does Treasure Map fit then?

It's possible to trash one Treasure Map without trashing a second one

That, and you can also trash 2 while the Gold pile is empty.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: cayvie on June 22, 2012, 04:44:53 pm: Quote from: ChocophileBenj on June 22, 2012, 08:05:48 am
And what about -----------Horn of Plenty-------- as another missing card ?

Oh, good one.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: Chuckleslovakian on June 23, 2012, 02:08:25 pm: I think there is only one last one Fool's Gold
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: eHalcyon on June 25, 2012, 01:44:11 pm: Quote from: Chuckleslovakian on June 23, 2012, 02:08:25 pm
I think there is only one last one Fool's Gold

How can FG return your deck to its original state?
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: qmech on June 25, 2012, 01:46:20 pm: Trash it when your opponent gains a Province and there are no Golds left in the supply.
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: ChocophileBenj on June 25, 2012, 02:39:43 pm: Quote from: qmech on June 25, 2012, 01:46:20 pm
Trash it when your opponent gains a Province and there are no Golds left in the supply.
So we can include gainers : play many cost-reducers (bridge, highway...), play any card "gain a card costing up to..." (including trashers for benefit) to gain a province, and yours opponents will be able to trash their FG's and return their deck to starting state.
EDIT : Ooops, nooo, because they can't return their deck with the "gainer card" alone, they need FG's !
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: dghunter79 on June 29, 2012, 10:22:02 pm: Don't forget Black Market!

Play Market, buy Brigand
Title: Re: Another Perfect Ten
Post by: Morgrim7 on June 30, 2012, 08:56:15 pm: Quote from: dghunter79 on June 29, 2012, 10:22:02 pm
Don't forget Black Market!

Play Market, buy Brigand
Trying to follow that with my mouse, +1. Totally forgot about that.