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Dominion => Puzzles and Challenges => Solo Challenges => Topic started by: GendoIkari on May 04, 2012, 11:09:15 am

Title: No Treasure
Post by: GendoIkari on May 04, 2012, 11:09:15 am
This is going to be a more informal challenge; because I don't plan on doing a bunch and tracking points, etc. But hopefully people will still be interested in trying it out because it sounds like fun (to me at least. ;D)

1. End the game with 8 Provinces in your deck.
2. After turns 1 and 2, you may not play a Treasure card.
3. You must not have any Treasure in your deck at the end of the game.

Do this in as few turns as possible.

And since I just now realized that all the solutions for "No Buys Allowed" work here as well, we'll go ahead and throw on one more stipulation:

4. You cannot gain any cards other than by buying them.

Feel free to post your answers and thoughts here, since this is an informal puzzle.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Deadlock39 on May 04, 2012, 11:47:45 am
2. After turns 1 and 2, you may not play a Treasure card.
4. You cannot gain any cards other than by buying them.

These two restraints make it a bit difficult to get started.  Here is an extremely unoptimized attempt:
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-084611-ed76b645.html
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: GendoIkari on May 04, 2012, 12:00:00 pm
My own thoughts (having not actually even tried this yet).


I think you have to start with 5/2 to have a good chance here. Open Mandarin / Festival. (And yes, to be completely technical, you have to have 5/2 and not 2/5 for this to work). From there; get a Chapel asap. Trash all Coppers and Estates when you can; buy a second Festival (or Conspirator maybe). At this point you can just start buying Grand Markets / King's Courts every turn, until you have enough to buy all the Provinces.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: dondon151 on May 04, 2012, 12:17:05 pm
Unless I'm missing an obvious rule, this seems to be along the lines of the fastest way to meet the requirements:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-091617-4935035b.html
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: GendoIkari on May 04, 2012, 01:51:36 pm
Unless I'm missing an obvious rule, this seems to be along the lines of the fastest way to meet the requirements:

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-091617-4935035b.html

Well done; I completely forgot about Horse Traders.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: tlloyd on May 04, 2012, 02:05:49 pm
Open Vault/Secret Chamber, then buy Hunting Parties and Grand Markets until you can start buying Provinces.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Hks on May 04, 2012, 02:20:17 pm
I thought about Baron, but I think tlloyd have the solution. Vault both has drawing power and gives the most +$.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Kirian on May 04, 2012, 04:09:44 pm
I thought about Baron, but I think tlloyd have the solution. Vault both has drawing power and gives the most +$.

I think dondon's solution above is going to be faster than tlloyd's.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: DG on May 04, 2012, 09:30:10 pm
I'll post up my 11 turns on Sunday if nobody can get 10 before then. 10 is certainly possible.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: tlloyd on May 05, 2012, 12:24:05 am
I swapped out Secret Chamber for Chapel (duh!) and got there in 9 turns (ignoring the first four while I waited to draw $5 or $2): http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-212057-4e0bd7e3.html

By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: ycz6 on May 05, 2012, 02:34:16 am
By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
The probability of that happening is about 0.7%. Good job! :P
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Schneau on May 05, 2012, 09:10:53 am
By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

I just had 45 turns until drawing $5/$2. I'll post the log once Geronimoo's Governor's Ball solo challenge is finished.
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Galzria on May 05, 2012, 10:40:55 am
By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

I just had 45 turns until drawing $5/$2. I'll post the log once Geronimoo's Governor's Ball solo challenge is finished.

Hey! My feelings are hurt.  :'( ....  ;)
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: tlloyd on May 05, 2012, 11:01:26 am
By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

Did happen, no log. Unless Councilroom records solitaire games...
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Galzria on May 05, 2012, 11:08:07 am
By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

Did happen, no log. Unless Councilroom records solitaire games...

Funny, I've always resigned on turn one, then started a new game... It's relatively quick, but 1001 clicks. I never really considered just cycling my deck in one game until I hit the split I want.  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Morgrim7 on May 05, 2012, 11:39:10 am
By the way, the first time I started a solitaire game to try this challenge, I didn't draw $5/$2 until turn 55! I think that's a personal record.
Logs or it didn't happen.

Did happen, no log. Unless Councilroom records solitaire games...

Funny, I've always resigned on turn one, then started a new game... It's relatively quick, but 1001 clicks. I never really considered just cycling my deck in one game until I hit the split I want.  :-\ :-\ :-\
That is a good idea. I also just resign and wait for the split I want. And it takes FOREVER  >:( >:( >:(. I guess you could just tell the host to ignore the extra turns?
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: DG on May 08, 2012, 09:06:12 am
Here is the 11 turns I promised. I managed to get 7 provinces on turn 10 with another attempt so that will be possible and probably 9 turns with best draws.

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-085112-7fcd9e0a.html (http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/04/game-20120504-085112-7fcd9e0a.html)
Title: Re: No Treasure
Post by: Ferrouswheel on May 24, 2012, 10:33:33 am
I also managed it in 10 turns.
http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201205/24/game-20120524-072914-5e3d312d.html

It occurred to me that Vault -> Grand Market -> King's Court had some nice possibilities.