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Dominion => Variants and Fan Cards => Topic started by: Udzu on August 16, 2022, 03:58:10 am

Title: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: Udzu on August 16, 2022, 03:58:10 am
(i.e. the type of landscapes that can be shuffled into the randomizer deck)

For the official expansions there's WELPs (Ways, Events, Landscapes, Projects), but this doesn't cover e.g. Asper's LastFootnote's Edicts, and various other fan card mechanics.

So far the best I can come up with is LUWAKs (Landscapes Usable With Any Kingdom).
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: emtzalex on August 16, 2022, 12:25:37 pm
(i.e. the type of landscapes that can be shuffled into the randomizer deck)

For the official expansions there's WELPs (Ways, Events, Landscapes, Projects), but this doesn't cover e.g. Asper's Edicts, and various other fan card mechanics.

So far the best I can come up with is LUWAKs (Landscapes Usable With Any Kingdom).

I've used the terms "independent landscapes" and "dependent landscapes" to make the distinction. The thought being that independent landscapes (WELPs, Edicts, Acts) appear regardless of what cards are in the Kingdom, while dependent landscapes (States, Artifacts, Boons, Hexes, Conditions) only appear as part of the design of a Kingdom card (or, in theory an Independent landscape), and thus their use is dependent on some other card/landscape.

This taxonomy became less useful with the release of Allies, as the eponymous type of landscape is somewhere in-between the two. They only appear when there is a Liaison, but no particular Ally is contingent on the presence of any particular Liaison. (And, if there is a Liaison, you still have to choose an Ally at random like you would a WELP).
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: Udzu on August 17, 2022, 08:51:03 am
Independent Landscapes is good, thanks.
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: LastFootnote on August 17, 2022, 10:12:42 am
Asper's Edicts

*ahem* (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13605.0)
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: NoMoreFun on August 17, 2022, 11:05:16 am
I just call them Landscapes.

I think of Allies as a mat like Coffers, and states/artifacts as tracking for an effect.

I haven't played a physical game of Dominion since shortly after Dark Ages came out.
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: Udzu on August 18, 2022, 03:44:12 pm
Asper's Edicts

*ahem* (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13605.0)

So sorry! I first saw them here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9231.0) and assumed they were his idea.
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: LastFootnote on August 18, 2022, 04:39:05 pm
Asper's Edicts

*ahem* (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13605.0)

So sorry! I first saw them here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9231.0) and assumed they were his idea.

No problem at all!

Also it's a super-obvious mechanic. Really all I came up with was the name "Edict".
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: MrHiTech on August 23, 2022, 02:07:15 am
I've always said "sideways cards"
Title: Re: Is there a general word for landscapes that can be used with any kingdom?
Post by: Udzu on September 21, 2022, 05:19:25 am
I've decided to call them randscapes (=randomizer landscapes)  :)