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Title: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Firestix on June 11, 2022, 10:33:54 pm
This Week's Challenge: Create a Blessing, a supply card that interacts with the player that has the Rosary.

The Rosary is an Artifact that can be obtained by gaining a Victory card costing $4 or less. It's also worth a little VP.
(https://i.imgur.com/MEbbx4B.png)
Quote from: Rosary
Rosary (Artifact)
2 VP
Whenever a player gains a victory card costing $4 or less, they take this.

Essentially, whenever a kingdom has a Blessing card in it, the Rosary is put into play. The blessings will typically have an effect along the lines of "if you have the Rosary..." or "the player with the Rosary...". Below are some examples of cards that have these effects. These may not be remotely balanced but hopefully this will give you an idea of what I'm going for with this:

(https://i.imgur.com/lf8Q3Ee.png)(https://i.imgur.com/19HNP13.png)(https://i.imgur.com/dxqOfPc.png)
Quote from: Example 1
Example 1 ($5 Action - Blessing)
+2 Cards

If you have the Rosary:
+1 Action
+$1
Quote from: Example 2
Example 2 ($2 Action - Blessing)
+1 Action

Choose one: +1 Card; or, if you have
the Rosary, put a card from your
discard pile into your hand.
Quote from: Example 3
Example 3 ($5 Action - Attack - Blessing)
+2 Cards

If you have the Rosary, Each other player
gains a Curse. Otherwise, the player with
the Rosary gains a Curse.

Notes and Guidelines: (I'll update this list as needed)
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Joxeft on June 11, 2022, 11:03:24 pm
Manor - Victory - Blessing - Reaction - Cost:4
2%
-
When you gain a card and you have the Rosary, you may  reveal this from your hand to Exile it.

Feedback is appreciated.

Edit 1: got rid of the +1 Buy.
Edit 2: made it so you get a buy if you don't get a coin in 3 player games.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Gubump on June 12, 2022, 02:40:59 am
Quote from: Joxeft on June 11, 2022, 11:03:24 pm
Tome - Treasure - Cost:5
$2
+1 Buy
When you play this if you have the Rosary +$1
Feedback is appreciated.

I'm not sure were to price this, suggestions would be appreciated.

Just an FYI, you don't need "when you play this," Treasures don't have that anymore.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Erick648 on June 12, 2022, 07:56:14 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/FzGnXr1/Convent-Erick648.png)
Convent
$3 Action - Blessing
Draw until you have 6 cards in hand.
You may trash or Exile a card from your hand. The player with the Rosary may trash or Exile a card from their hand.

Note: If you have the Rosary, you get to trash or Exile twice: once as "you" and a second time as "the player with the Rosary."

I considered having it say, "You and the player with the Rosary may each trash or Exile a card from hand," but I think the version I have, while longer, makes it more intuitive that you get to do it twice if you have the Rosary.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: emtzalex on June 12, 2022, 07:58:31 pm
Withdrawn as submission:
(https://i.imgur.com/4cGHEPzh.png)


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Only the Good Die Young • $2 • Event
+1 Buy. Trash a card from your hand. If you have the Rosary, and trashed an Action card, you may gain an Action card costing up to $3 more than it.

My submission is Only the Good Die Young. It's mainly a trashing Event, trashing a card from your hand per $2 you have to spend (without costing you a Buy). It is enhanced by Rosary, which allows you to Expand the Action cards you trash.

EDIT: I've withdrawn this as my submission after reading the OP more carefully and noticing that it required us to submit a Kingdom card.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: spineflu on June 13, 2022, 09:35:48 am
Split pile, 5 pastors over 5 manses

(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a8fda445336b867f93ef4f/previews/62a8fda745336b867f93ef57/download/image.png)(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a73c73385fca1c0d245f73/previews/62a73c75385fca1c0d2460cf/download/image.png)

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Pastor • $2 • Action - Blessing
+1 Action
If you have the Rosary, you may discard any number of Victory cards and/or Curses, revealed; otherwise, you may discard a Victory card. +2 Cards per card discarded.
Quote
Manse • $5 • Victory - Blessing
2%
-
When you gain this, you may put an Action from your discard pile onto your deck, and if you have the Rosary, +1%

What if a little or big shepherd? You're incentivized to green early due to Rosary. Hey look there's some bonus duchies* that help you line up your pastors.
*only a duchy if you buy it when you have the rosary.

edited/wording adjusted per Gubump/emtzalex's critiques
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Joxeft on June 13, 2022, 11:06:33 am
My submission has been updated.

My submission has been updated again.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Gubump on June 13, 2022, 11:23:40 am
Quote from: spineflu on June 13, 2022, 09:35:48 am
Split pile, 5 pastors over 5 manses

(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a73a43c5b7437f41981e74/previews/62a73a45c5b7437f41982028/download/image.png)(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a73c73385fca1c0d245f73/previews/62a73c75385fca1c0d2460cf/download/image.png)

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Pastor • $2 • Action - Blessing
+1 Action
You may discard a Victory card. If you have the Rosary, discard any number of Victory cards or Curses.
+2 Cards for each card you discarded with this.
Quote
Manse • $5 • Victory - Blessing
2%
-
When you gain this, you may put an Action from your discard pile onto your deck, and if you have the Rosary, +1%

What if a little or big shepherd? You're incentivized to green early due to Rosary. Hey look there's some bonus duchies* that help you line up your pastors.
*only a duchy if you buy it when you have the rosary.

The 2nd part of Pastor needs to reveal the Victory cards and Curses (see Shepherd). Also, it's unclear whether you can discard a combination of Curses and Victory cards; I assume you can, and if I'm right in assuming that, I'd suggest "discard any number of Curses and/or Victory cards, revealed."
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: emtzalex on June 13, 2022, 01:48:13 pm
Quote from: Gubump on June 13, 2022, 11:23:40 am
Quote from: spineflu on June 13, 2022, 09:35:48 am
Split pile, 5 pastors over 5 manses

(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a73a43c5b7437f41981e74/previews/62a73a45c5b7437f41982028/download/image.png)(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a73c73385fca1c0d245f73/previews/62a73c75385fca1c0d2460cf/download/image.png)

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Pastor • $2 • Action - Blessing
+1 Action
You may discard a Victory card. If you have the Rosary, discard any number of Victory cards or Curses.
+2 Cards for each card you discarded with this.
Quote
Manse • $5 • Victory - Blessing
2%
-
When you gain this, you may put an Action from your discard pile onto your deck, and if you have the Rosary, +1%

What if a little or big shepherd? You're incentivized to green early due to Rosary. Hey look there's some bonus duchies* that help you line up your pastors.
*only a duchy if you buy it when you have the rosary.

The 2nd part of Pastor needs to reveal the Victory cards and Curses (see Shepherd). Also, it's unclear whether you can discard a combination of Curses and Victory cards; I assume you can, and if I'm right in assuming that, I'd suggest "discard any number of Curses and/or Victory cards, revealed."

Also, Shephard (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Shepherd) just says "+2 Cards per card discarded" which I think would be fine for your last sentence on Pastor (if you want to shorten it to make the earlier part longer). If you were worried about that being unclear with the 2 kinds of discarding, you could compact them into one sentence like:

Quote from: Pastor
+1 Action
If you have the Rosary, you may discard any number of Victory cards and/or Curses, revealed; otherwise, you may discard a Victory card. +2 Cards per card discarded.

(For "otherwise" after a semicolon to connect both sides to something happening in an adjacent sentence, see Barbarian (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Barbarian), Jester (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Jester)).
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: emtzalex on June 13, 2022, 02:08:44 pm
New Submission:
(https://i.imgur.com/gsX8Rulh.png)



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Paladin • $5 • Action - Blessing
+1 Card
+1 Action
If you have the Rosary, trash a card from your hand. Otherwise, +1 Card.

Whoops I didn't read the OP carefully enough, and missed that the challenge said "Create a Blessing, a supply card that interacts with the player that has the Rosary" (and specifically said that it "can be any other type of non-landscape card"). While I still like OtGDY, it plainly doesn't meet the challenge, so I've withdrawn it as my submission.

I'm instead submitting Paladin. If you have the Rosary, it's a cantrip trasher. Otherwise, it's a Lab. The trashing easily mitigates the impact of buying an Estate to get the Rosary (especially if you have multiple copies). Once you're done trashing you'll want it to turn back, but of course that isn't up to you. If your opponent takes the Rosary before you're done trashing, you have to decide if you want it back, or want to leave it and make due with what you've got. That calculation will likely change in the presence of junkers/cursers.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Xen3k on June 14, 2022, 12:10:54 am
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52145321599_2042c6a25c_b.jpg)

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Hunted Skinwalker - $5
Action - Night - Attack - Blessing
If it's your Night phase, each player without the Rosary chooses one: Gain a Curse to your hand; or discard a card. Otherwise, +2 Cards and +1 Action, then discard a card.

A mix of Werewolf, Torturer, and Fugitive. The player with the Rosary does not need to fear the Skinwalker, and the person who plays it does not need to worry as they can always opt to discard a card if they don't have the Rosary. Feedback is appreciated.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Jonasssss on June 14, 2022, 06:52:20 am
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52145733358_6f8d0347ef_m.jpg)

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Eden - $4
Action - Victory - Blessing
Gain a Card costing up to $4. The player with the Rosary gets +1 VP
-
1 VP
Eden is a basic Workshop Variant, with the benefit of providing vp to the owner of the Rosarie. Gaining it will also net you a Rosarie, so you're never forced to buy an Estate to take advantage of it. Feedback would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: fika monster on June 14, 2022, 09:08:03 am
Rotating split pile time baby
Edit: Mostly just grammar and wording fixes. Biggest change is Bishops weed, which can now topdeck 0 cost and victory cards.

(https://i.imgur.com/Iw52Wne.png)
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3$ : Monk
Action- Blessing - Priory
  Choose 1: +2 Cards; Exile a Victory card in hand; +1 Coffers
If you have the Rosary, choose an additional different option.

You may rotate the Priory.

(https://i.imgur.com/hblTiYH.png)
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4$
Victory - Reaction - Priory
+1VP
-
When you gain victory cards or 0$ cards, you may reveal this from your hand to put that card into your hand or unto your deck.

(https://i.imgur.com/Orf47RL.png)
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5$
Indulgence
Action - Blessing - Priory
+2 Buy’s
Non-Victory cards cost 2 less this turn.

If you don't Have the Rosary, Trash this.

(https://i.imgur.com/3SRJaiw.png)
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6$
Lords Garden
Action - Duration - Blessing - Priory
+2 Villagers.
At the start of your next turn, you may spend any number of villagers for +1 Card per Villager spent.
-
If this is in play and you have the Rosary, +2 villagers whenever someone gains a Victory card.

Same setup and rules as the other rotating split piles: 4 of each card, 3$ card is on top, etc.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Dubdubdubdub on June 15, 2022, 05:33:54 am
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Parish • $3 • Victory
2VP
If you have the Rosary, worth +1VP
-
The first time you gain this on your turn, +1 Buy.

I edited my submission to only give +Buy once per turn, to make the endgame a little less unpredictable. It's a pretty big swing to end the game by getting the last couple Parishes (I had kind of forgotten that the Rosary is 2VP too), and I think this change helps (ante-)penultimate-Parish strategizing.

Old version:
(https://i.imgur.com/Zz8yO6G.png)

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Parish • $3 • Victory
2VP
If you have the Rosary, worth +1VP
-
When you gain this, +1 Buy.

Some version of this came to mind immediately, but I do also really like Jonasssss's take on the idea.
(edit: forgot the 'Blessing' type)
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: beri on June 15, 2022, 12:56:09 pm
Cards whose power scales with the number of opponents, because it’s harder to have the rosary against 3 than against 1.


Prayer book
$4
Action - Reaction - Blessing

+$2
Look at a number of cards from the top of your deck equal to 1 plus, if you have the rosary, the number of your opponents.
Choose one: take one of these cards in hand or trash one of these cards. Discard the other cards.
------
When you gain a Victory card, you may play this from your hand.

Mass
$3
Action - Duration - Blessing
+1VP
If you have the Rosary: +1Action, +2$, pass the Rosary to the player on your left. Until your next turn, you may not take it from an opponent.
Otherwise, take the Rosary and place it under this. Until your next turn, no opponent may take it.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: beri on June 15, 2022, 05:29:19 pm
On the same theme (cards that scale):

Pious Village
$4 / Action - Blessing

+2 Actions
If you have the Rosary, choose one: if there are…
- 2+ players: +$2
- 3+ players:+1 Card +$1
- 4+ players: +2 Cards

Otherwise, +1 Card.

Another option is to remove the "otherwise" part and bring the cost down to $3. Feedback appreciated.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: emtzalex on June 15, 2022, 06:32:32 pm
Quote from: fika monster on June 14, 2022, 09:08:03 am
Rotating split pile time baby

(https://i.imgur.com/yy0ZpBv.png)
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3$ : Monk
Action- Blessing - Priory
  Choose 1: +2 Cards; Exile a victory card in hand; +1 Coffers
If you have the rosary, choose an additional diffent option.

You may rotate the Priory.

(https://i.imgur.com/SUbDKnJ.png)
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4$
Victory - Reaction - Priory
+1VP
-
When you gain victory cards or 0$ cards, you may reveal this from your hand to put that card into your hand.

(https://i.imgur.com/J8FM6yh.png)
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5$
Indulgence
Action - Blessing - Priory
+2 Buy’s
All non-victory cards cost 2 less this turn.

If you don't Have the Rosary, Trash this.

(https://i.imgur.com/jwPVD2m.png)
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6$
Lords Garden
Action - Duration - Blessing - Priory
+2 Villagers.
At the start of your next turn, you may spend any number of villagers for +1 Card per Villager spent.
-
If you have the rosary, +2 villagers whenever someone gains a victory card.

Same setup and rules as the other rotating split piles: 4 of each card, 3$ on top, etc.

When does the below-the-line ability in Lords Garden trigger? Is it while the card is in play? If so, there should be language specifying it.

There are also a number of copy edits you might want to make. For example, both "Rosary" and the V in "Victory card(s)" should always be capitalized.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: fika monster on June 16, 2022, 02:45:47 am
Quote from: beri on June 15, 2022, 05:29:19 pm
On the same theme (cards that scale):

Pious Village
$4 / Action - Blessing

+2 Actions
If you have the Rosary, choose one:
- 2+ players: +$2
- 3+ players:+1 Card +$1
- 4+ players: +2 Cards

Otherwise, +1 Card.

Another option is to remove the "otherwise" part and bring the cost down to $3. Feedback appreciated.

I think a simpler language would be "choose 1 + if you have the rosary, an extra option per player"
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: beri on June 17, 2022, 06:33:33 am
I fear an extra option per player would be too strong.
With more players, the current version offers stronger and stronger options + choice.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Galaxi on June 17, 2022, 11:27:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/QbRbSFy.png)
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: beri on June 17, 2022, 03:43:37 pm
So if I get it well, it’s a potential silver-for-each-gain?
The idea is nice, but when you don’t have the Rosary, it’s just a dead card.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Dubdubdubdub on June 17, 2022, 04:46:21 pm
Quote from: beri on June 17, 2022, 03:43:37 pm
So if I get it well, it’s a potential silver-for-each-gain?
The idea is nice, but when you don’t have the Rosary, it’s just a dead card.

It shines whenever you gain a card that would get you the Rosary. Buy Estate, get Rosary, exchange Estate for a 4-cost. And with the +Buy, you can easily do this more than once.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Firestix on June 18, 2022, 09:13:39 am
The contest ends in 24 hours.

Also @beri, you’ve made 3 cards in this thread but if you could pick just one of them to be your submission I would appreciate it. The choice has been made.


Here is a list of the current submissions. If I’m missing anything please let me know.

Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: beri on June 18, 2022, 01:44:26 pm
Go ask someone to choose a single child of theirs :(
I’ll pick Pious village, but let the world know I like all three of them.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Firestix on June 18, 2022, 03:41:18 pm
Quote from: beri on June 18, 2022, 01:44:26 pm
Go ask someone to choose a single child of theirs :(
I’ll pick Pious village, but let the world know I like all three of them.

Your choice has been noted. Thanks!
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: fika monster on June 18, 2022, 04:45:45 pm
Quote from: fika monster on June 14, 2022, 09:08:03 am
Rotating split pile time baby
Edit: Mostly just grammar and wording fixes. Biggest change is Bishops weed, which can now topdeck 0 cost and victory cards.


Minor update to cards.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: infangthief on June 19, 2022, 03:55:12 am
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Pilgrim
$2 Action

+1 Card
+1 Action
+1 Buy
Exile this.
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When you discard this from Exile, if you have the Rosary, +1VP.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Dubdubdubdub on June 19, 2022, 04:00:02 am
Quote from: infangthief on June 19, 2022, 03:55:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/B5rj1dT.png)

Nice! I’ve been looking for a good ‘when you discard this from Exile’ effect, and +VP seems like the perfect fit.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Firestix on June 19, 2022, 10:12:08 am
The contest is now closed.
I will do the judging in the coming days. It will hopefully be done no later than Wednesday.
Submissions:

Let me know if I missed anything.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Firestix on June 22, 2022, 09:00:28 am
This is my first time judging a contest like this. Hopefully my opinions on these aren't too disagreeable.

I will preface this by saying that there were a lot of good submissions. It was tough to narrow down cards for the finalists, and tougher still to pick a winner. Hopefully I did a good enough job!

But anyway, here are the submissions and some of my thoughts:


Manor by Joxeft
Quote from: Joxeft on June 11, 2022, 11:03:24 pm
Manor - Victory - Blessing - Reaction - Cost:4
2%
-
When you gain a card and you have the Rosary, you may  reveal this from your hand to Exile it.

It seems like the only purpose for this card is to get the rosary and then promptly leave your deck. An interesting idea for an Alt-VP but it doesn’t do much other than that.

Edit: I just realized that the on-gain effect targets the card you gain, not the Manor itself. It makes it a little more interesting but I think my judgement still stands. You're still likely going to use it purely to take the rosary via exiling an estate, but it's a bit more versatile than I thought.


Convent by Erick648
Quote from: Erick648 on June 12, 2022, 07:56:14 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/FzGnXr1/Convent-Erick648.png)
Convent
$3 Action - Blessing
Draw until you have 6 cards in hand.
You may trash or Exile a card from your hand. The player with the Rosary may trash or Exile a card from their hand.

A pretty good deck thinner if you have the rosary. It also solves the problem of gaining victory cards to obtain the rosary. I also like how any player that has the rosary benefits from this card, which is not something I really explored when designing this mechanic.


Pastor // Manse by spineflu
(Finalist)
Quote from: spineflu on June 13, 2022, 09:35:48 am
(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a8fda445336b867f93ef4f/previews/62a8fda745336b867f93ef57/download/image.png)(https://trello.com/1/cards/62a739b09112f127c8d79d9e/attachments/62a73c73385fca1c0d245f73/previews/62a73c75385fca1c0d2460cf/download/image.png)

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Pastor • $2 • Action - Blessing
+1 Action
If you have the Rosary, you may discard any number of Victory cards and/or Curses, revealed; otherwise, you may discard a Victory card. +2 Cards per card discarded.
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Manse • $5 • Victory - Blessing
2%
-
When you gain this, you may put an Action from your discard pile onto your deck, and if you have the Rosary, +1%

I like the flavor of having Pastor be a shepherd-like card. And I like how gaining a Manse can put your played Pastor onto your deck, as well as rewarding you for keeping the rosary. Both of these cards are good.


Paladin by emtzalex
(Finalist)
Quote from: emtzalex on June 13, 2022, 02:08:44 pm
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Paladin • $5 • Action - Blessing
+1 Card
+1 Action
If you have the Rosary, trash a card from your hand. Otherwise, +1 Card.

I like the dilemma of needing to either have the rosary for trashing or not have the rosary for more draw. I also like how whether or not you trash or draw is decided by the opponents by taking the rosary. Interesting idea.


Hunted Skinwalker by Xen3k
(Finalist)
Quote from: Xen3k on June 14, 2022, 12:10:54 am
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Hunted Skinwalker - $5
Action - Night - Attack - Blessing
If it's your Night phase, each player without the Rosary chooses one: Gain a Curse to your hand; or discard a card. Otherwise, +2 Cards and +1 Action, then discard a card.

This one kind of grew on me. I like the idea of an attack that affects everyone, not just your opponents. I also like how you’ve taken the concept of the rosary giving you a bonus and making it so that your opponents can take it to avoid being attacked. An interesting perspective.


Eden by Jonasssss
(Finalist)
Quote from: Jonasssss on June 14, 2022, 06:52:20 am
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Eden - $4
Action - Victory - Blessing
Gain a Card costing up to $4. The player with the Rosary gets +1 VP
-
1 VP

Like Convent, I like how this benefits the player with the Rosary, no matter who it is. You can also use it to take the rosary immediately and benefit from the full effect, at the cost of gaining at worst an estate or at best another Eden.


The Priories by fika monster
Quote from: fika monster on June 14, 2022, 09:08:03 am
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3$ : Monk
Action- Blessing - Priory
  Choose 1: +2 Cards; Exile a Victory card in hand; +1 Coffers
If you have the Rosary, choose an additional different option.

You may rotate the Priory.

(https://i.imgur.com/hblTiYH.png)
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4$
Victory - Reaction - Priory
+1VP
-
When you gain victory cards or 0$ cards, you may reveal this from your hand to put that card into your hand or unto your deck.

(https://i.imgur.com/Orf47RL.png)
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5$
Indulgence
Action - Blessing - Priory
+2 Buy’s
Non-Victory cards cost 2 less this turn.

If you don't Have the Rosary, Trash this.

(https://i.imgur.com/3SRJaiw.png)
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6$
Lords Garden
Action - Duration - Blessing - Priory
+2 Villagers.
At the start of your next turn, you may spend any number of villagers for +1 Card per Villager spent.
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If this is in play and you have the Rosary, +2 villagers whenever someone gains a Victory card.

I feel like I made a mistake by not restricting split piles, but hey, I like making things unnecessarily difficult for myself. I’ll start with each card individually and go from there.

Monk is a choose one that turns into a choose two with the rosary. Notably it exiles victory cards. It’s pretty good, especially with the rosary.

Bishop’s Weed allows you to take the rosary when you buy it. It also allows you to move any gained victory or $0 cards to your hand or onto your deck. Useful as a defense against cursers, but outside of that, I can’t see myself wanting to pick this up outside of very specific situations.

Indulgence gives +2 buys and reduces the cost of non-victory cards. It trashes itself if you don’t have the Rosary. This is a little strange. On the one hand, two buys with price reduction sounds pretty good. However, it doesn’t affect victory cards, which is kind of hard to justify the $5 price, especially if you don’t have the rosary. Overall I think this is a little weak as it is.

Lord’s Gardener is a duration that gives you villagers. It allows you to spend them for cards at the start of your next turn. If another player gains a victory card while it’s in play, and you have the Rosary, you get more villagers for your next turn. It convert’s villagers into cards which is neat, and you can save your villagers for a big draw later on, but it makes for a pretty slow card, especially without other villager gainers to support it. Like Indulgence, this seems a little on the weak side for $6.

Overall, I commend that you tried to make a split pile like this. However, I think the later cards are either weak or situational.


Parish by Dubdubdubdub
(Finalist)
Quote from: Dubdubdubdub on June 15, 2022, 05:33:54 am
(https://i.imgur.com/vT644xw.png)

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Parish • $3 • Victory
2VP
If you have the Rosary, worth +1VP
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The first time you gain this on your turn, +1 Buy.

I like this. It increases in value if you end the game with the rosary. You also don’t waste a buy getting it (as long as it’s your first buy), which is a plus. It might be a bit undercosted, as buying two will guarantee a 6VP gain (not including the rosary itself). But it’s probably balanced out by the fact that you’re gaining two green cards for this, and you’re more susceptible to losing by having the rosary taken from you.


Pious Village by beri
Quote from: beri on June 15, 2022, 05:29:19 pm
Pious Village
$4 / Action - Blessing

+2 Actions
If you have the Rosary, choose one: if there are…
- 2+ players: +$2
- 3+ players:+1 Card +$1
- 4+ players: +2 Cards

Otherwise, +1 Card.

I’m a little iffy about designing cards around player count, but I get the reasoning behind it. Other than that it’s a pretty interesting village. Of the three cards you’ve made with this sort of scaling I think this one does it the best by parsing it as a choose one.


Retailer by Galaxi
Quote from: Galaxi on June 17, 2022, 11:27:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/QbRbSFy.png)
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Retailer ($4 Action - Blessing)
+1 Buy
When you gain a card this turn, if you have the Rosary(or you take it), you may exchange the gained card for a card costing up to $2 more.

Sneaky design. It allows you to take the rosary without taking the junk card and instead gain a more useful card. I like it. It could allow you to pretty much buy provinces for $6, but that would require you to keep control of the rosary, which could be a problem if someone else picks up a Retailer.


Pilgrim by infangthief
Quote from: infangthief on June 19, 2022, 03:55:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/B5rj1dT.png)
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Pilgrim
$2 Action

+1 Card
+1 Action
+1 Buy
Exile this.
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When you discard this from Exile, if you have the Rosary, +1VP.

Discard-from-exile effects sound really cool! I do like that the effect is dependent on the rosary being in your possession. A simple but effective VP generator.


Runner Ups: Pastor // Manse by spineflu, Paladin by emtzalex, Eden by Jonasssss, Parish by Dubdubdubdub

Winner: Hunted Skinwalker by Xen3k
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Xen3k on June 22, 2022, 12:18:39 pm
Thanks Firestix for the win!

There was some discussion on this thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20521.msg893028#msg893028) about when we want to close up Season 4 of FMC. So I will ask here. Do you want me to set up the Season 4 Finale now or wait until FMC week 42?

Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Firestix on June 22, 2022, 12:35:05 pm
Quote from: Xen3k on June 22, 2022, 12:18:39 pm
Thanks Firestix for the win!

There was some discussion on this thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20521.msg893028#msg893028) about when we want to close up Season 4 of FMC. So I will ask here. Do you want me to set up the Season 4 Finale now or wait until FMC week 42?

Personally I'm fine with either. If you have an idea for a mechanic I'd say do that next. But If you don't, you may as well do the finale.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: emtzalex on June 22, 2022, 01:09:21 pm
Quote from: Firestix on June 22, 2022, 12:35:05 pm
Quote from: Xen3k on June 22, 2022, 12:18:39 pm
Thanks Firestix for the win!

There was some discussion on this thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20521.msg893028#msg893028) about when we want to close up Season 4 of FMC. So I will ask here. Do you want me to set up the Season 4 Finale now or wait until FMC week 42?

Personally I'm fine with either. If you have an idea for a mechanic I'd say do that next. But If you don't, you may as well do the finale.

When I proposed doing season finales (in my post about Trade Tokens (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20616.msg864484#msg864484) and how they paired well with prior mechanics) I suggested that there should be 5-10 mechanics per season, so by that standard the 8 we have so far in Season 4 are more than enough. Having 9 mechanics is seasons 1 & 2 made for nice numbering, but I don't think 9 mechanics are necessary to have enough design space to come up with a lot of different combinations.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Joxeft on June 22, 2022, 01:09:50 pm
Quote from: Firestix on June 22, 2022, 12:35:05 pm
Quote from: Xen3k on June 22, 2022, 12:18:39 pm
Thanks Firestix for the win!

There was some discussion on this thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20521.msg893028#msg893028) about when we want to close up Season 4 of FMC. So I will ask here. Do you want me to set up the Season 4 Finale now or wait until FMC week 42?

Personally I'm fine with either. If you have an idea for a mechanic I'd say do that next. But If you don't, you may as well do the finale.
same
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: fika monster on June 22, 2022, 01:20:37 pm
GG Xen3k!
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Xen3k on June 22, 2022, 02:12:58 pm
Ok, I think I will just wrap up Season 4 of FMC. Should have it up later today.
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: Dubdubdubdub on June 23, 2022, 03:47:14 am
Congrats Xen3k, a deserved win!
Title: Re: Fan Mechanics Week 40: Blessings upon you
Post by: fika monster on June 23, 2022, 09:24:29 am
Tried updating the Cards a bit, heres the changed Priory cards:

Bishops weed v3
(https://i.imgur.com/uOyDSbV.png)
Changed so that it affects cards costing 4 or less, and getting to put it or another card from hand onto your deck. So you can setup your next turn.

Indulgence v3
(https://i.imgur.com/aK8jGGc.png)
Just straight up buffed so Cost reduction is universal. I thought that cost reduction was too good, so that why i made it "non victory cards" but it doesnt seem to have been a good idea

Lords garden v3
(https://i.imgur.com/4e89zco.png)
I was pretty happy with this one, and since indulgence is heavily buffed i just made this one get an extra villager, so its at minimum a smithy at the next turn. I considered making it +4 Villagers, but That felt like too much.