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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: Sparafucile on July 22, 2020, 11:40:51 am

Title: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: Sparafucile on July 22, 2020, 11:40:51 am: Having a haggler in play and buying a city quarter forces you to gain either copper or curse.

Frustrating because I wanted to use city quarter as money source to pay off debt.

Game number: 51144739

This is incorrect - as city quarter cost debt, and so Copper is NOT cheaper than city quarter.

http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Cost
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: Jack Rudd on July 22, 2020, 11:53:15 am: The online server is right; your understanding of the rules is wrong. 0 + 8D is a higher cost than 0.
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: scolapasta on July 22, 2020, 11:54:05 am: Quote from: Jack Rudd on July 22, 2020, 11:53:15 am
The online server is right; your understanding of the rules is wrong. 0 + 8D is a higher cost than 0.

Exactly. From the cost link you posted:

"An amount of two cost components ($ and P, or $ and D) is only larger than another if both cost component amounts are larger, or one is larger and one the same."
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: GendoIkari on July 22, 2020, 01:34:14 pm: The key is that City Quarter doesn't only cost _{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d4/Debt8.png/18px-Debt8.png)}. It actually costs _{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/d/d4/Debt8.png/18px-Debt8.png)}+_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5d/Coin0.png/16px-Coin0.png)}+0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Potion.png/9px-Potion.png)}.

Similarly, Copper actually costs 0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/81/Debt.png/18px-Debt.png)}+_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/5/5d/Coin0.png/16px-Coin0.png)}+0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Potion.png/9px-Potion.png)}. Smithy costs 0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/81/Debt.png/18px-Debt.png)}+_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2a/Coin4.png/16px-Coin4.png)}+0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Potion.png/9px-Potion.png)}, etc.
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: Sparafucile on July 22, 2020, 01:37:05 pm: Oh! Lol. U guys are right
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: LastFootnote on July 22, 2020, 02:06:13 pm: Quote from: GendoIkari on July 22, 2020, 01:34:14 pm
Smithy costs 0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/81/Debt.png/18px-Debt.png)}+_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Coin3.png/16px-Coin3.png)}+0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Potion.png/9px-Potion.png)}

Smithy costs $4.
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: GendoIkari on July 22, 2020, 02:08:45 pm: Quote from: LastFootnote on July 22, 2020, 02:06:13 pm
Quote from: GendoIkari on July 22, 2020, 01:34:14 pm
Smithy costs 0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/81/Debt.png/18px-Debt.png)}+_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Coin3.png/16px-Coin3.png)}+0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Potion.png/9px-Potion.png)}

Smithy costs $4.

Oops, fixed.
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: michaeljb on July 22, 2020, 08:51:05 pm: Quote from: Sparafucile on July 22, 2020, 11:40:51 am
Frustrating because I wanted to use city quarter as money source to pay off debt.

Now that the cost rule is sorted, what did you mean by this?
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: navical on July 23, 2020, 09:26:59 am: Quote from: michaeljb on July 22, 2020, 08:51:05 pm
Quote from: Sparafucile on July 22, 2020, 11:40:51 am
Frustrating because I wanted to use city quarter as money source to pay off debt.

Now that the cost rule is sorted, what did you mean by this?
I'd guess they meant Haggler rather than City Quarter
Title: Re: Haggler and debt is bugged online
Post by: GendoIkari on July 23, 2020, 10:21:35 am: Quote from: GendoIkari on July 22, 2020, 02:08:45 pm
Quote from: LastFootnote on July 22, 2020, 02:06:13 pm
Quote from: GendoIkari on July 22, 2020, 01:34:14 pm
Smithy costs 0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/81/Debt.png/18px-Debt.png)}+_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Coin3.png/16px-Coin3.png)}+0_{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/7/7a/Potion.png/9px-Potion.png)}

Smithy costs $4.

Oops, fixed.

Now I'm annoyed because I just realized how much easier it would have been to edit "Smithy" to "Village" in my post than it would have been to edit _{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/32/Coin3.png/16px-Coin3.png)} to _{(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/2/2a/Coin4.png/16px-Coin4.png)}; due to having to carefully search through the icon start and end code to make sure I replaced the exact right part of the post.