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Title: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: sudgy on May 28, 2020, 02:54:34 am
We have reached a new achievement in our forum mafia, an expansion on our previous games.  It will shine like ivory, even if that seems like a paradox.  You might want to pass on this new collection of rules, but we are in agreement that this heavy situation shall reign forever.

Welcome to BM31: Random Word Mafia!

Sign-ups:
1. Joseph2302
2. MiX
3. WestCoastDidds
4. mail-mi
5. Galzria
6. scolapasta
7. LaLight
8. Awaclus
9. Swowl
10. EFHW
11. chairs

My thoughts on this game:

The thought of claiming is like a pineapple with a hard shell but a soft fruit core. Like when you're building something out of stone, metal or wood

Basically I think the claim by randomly saying words idea i silly. Because people can just post rubbish like the above avll day and we will get nowhere
To be fair though, it would be pretty amusing if all posts in this game read like your example.

In this game, all posts will read like Joseph's post, and the small blurb at the top of this post.  The main gist of this game is that for every post, everybody has to include a randomly-designated word in their post.  Other than the specifics of this rule, the game will be run like a normal mafia game.  It is only labeled BM because of the crazy posting restriction, and all normal rules will be upheld.

The standard rules of mafia (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9211.0) apply, with the following clarifications:

Here is how the posting restriction will work:

Flavor will be based on random words.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on May 28, 2020, 02:54:41 am
This game will be using the Friends and Enemies and Enemies and That Other Guy (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Friends_and_Enemies_and_Enemies_and_That_Other_Guy) setup.  It consists of
The Backup Mason is given a Vanilla Townie Role PM initially and will convert when one of the Masons dies.  If both Masons die at the same time, the Backup Mason will still receive a PM revealing their role and the Mason QT.  If the Backup Mason is killed before joining, they will flip as a VT, but if they are killed after joining, they will flip as a generic Mason, not as a Backup Mason (this shouldn't really matter and I couldn't find any precedent but thought I would mention it).  If the Mason is killed during the night, the Backup and the other Mason will be notified at the start of the next day but will be unable to talk to each other until the next night.

Role PMs:

Mafia Goon
Quote
Welcome [Player Name], you are [Flavor Name], a Mafia Goon, along with your partner, [Player Name].

Abilities:
 - Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].
 - Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partner may perform the factional kill.

Win condition:
You win when the mafia are the only players alive or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Werewolf
Quote
Welcome [Player Name], you are [Flavor Name], a Werewolf, along with your partner, [Player Name].

Abilities:
 - Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].
 - Factional kill: Each night phase, one of you or your partner may perform the factional kill.

Win condition:
You win when the werewolves are the only players alive or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Vanilla Townie
Quote
Welcome [Player Name], you are [Flavor Name], a Vanilla Townie.

Abilities:
 - Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive, or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Town Mason
Quote
Welcome [Player Name], you are [Flavor Name], a Town Mason, along with your partner, [Player Name].

Abilities:
 - Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].
 - You are confirmed town to your partner, and them to you.
 - If you or your partner dies, a new town player may join the masonry.

Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Backup Mason
Quote
[Player Name], you were the Town Backup Mason all along and have been called to join the masonry with your new partner, [Player Name].

Abilities:
 - Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].
 - You are confirmed town to your partner, and them to you.

Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.


Original post:

Quote
So, what setup do you guys want to do?  I'm not really connected to any setup so I'll just pick something somebody suggests.  I don't want any setup that allows people to post in more than one place at once (like daychat or neighbors), and I don't want too many people because upholding this rule will be crazy with that many people.

I'll edit this post with setup info once we figure out what the setup will be.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Joseph2302 on May 28, 2020, 06:32:44 am
/in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: MiX on May 28, 2020, 07:49:35 am
Whatever the setup is, it must have night-chat-only masons. Or neighborhoods, although that gets confusing with the scum QT.

/in regardless.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: WestCoastDidds on May 28, 2020, 08:46:45 am
Ohhhhhhh......I love having a neighborhood!

/in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: MiX on May 28, 2020, 09:33:32 am
Ohhhhhhh......I love having a neighborhood!

/in

There's probably not going to be a neighborhood this game. So...
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: mail-mi on May 28, 2020, 09:59:20 am
/in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: popsofctown on May 28, 2020, 10:21:02 am
 https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Forest_Fire

Forest Fire would be a good fit, to be likely to have someone's unique post restricted style longer through the game
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: WestCoastDidds on May 28, 2020, 10:31:15 am
Ohhhhhhh......I love having a neighborhood!

/in

There's probably not going to be a neighborhood this game. So...

Why do you crush my dreams? Why??
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: popsofctown on May 28, 2020, 11:55:43 am
mailman seems manageable
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Calamitas on May 28, 2020, 12:25:33 pm
So, what setup do you guys want to do?  I'm not really connected to any setup so I'll just pick something somebody suggests.  I don't want any setup that allows people to post in more than one place at once (like daychat or neighbors), and I don't want too many people because upholding this rule will be crazy with that many people.

I'll edit this post with setup info once we figure out what the setup will be.
Stormlight seems good :) Small, easy, and manageable!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Galzria on May 28, 2020, 01:53:06 pm
/in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: scolapasta on May 28, 2020, 02:40:01 pm
/hotel, I mean /inn... er /in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on May 28, 2020, 02:41:55 pm
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Forest_Fire

Forest Fire would be a good fit, to be likely to have someone's unique post restricted style longer through the game

But I probably want people to die so that I won't have to moderate the posts as much...
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: popsofctown on May 28, 2020, 03:08:07 pm
That's not a promising attitude towards moderating.. y'all have fun
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: LaLight on May 28, 2020, 03:15:38 pm
/in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Awaclus on May 28, 2020, 04:17:40 pm
/in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Swowl on May 28, 2020, 06:02:29 pm
/hammer
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: MiX on May 28, 2020, 06:13:41 pm
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Forest_Fire

Forest Fire would be a good fit, to be likely to have someone's unique post restricted style longer through the game

But I probably want people to die so that I won't have to moderate the posts as much...

On the other hand, that's a pretty small game, so D1 should be easier. On the other hand, D4 or D5 are just as tasking...

From the player's side, the post restriction makes tree stumps more punishing, which I think is more fun since it's a penalty that isn't really added. Just the fact that everyone's posts are going to be weird by default makes dead people posting worse in a really interesting way I bet.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on May 28, 2020, 06:27:49 pm
/hammer

This doesn't have to be the hammer if others want to play too.  I'll limit the setup we pick to 13 people at most.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on May 28, 2020, 06:28:34 pm
Also, this is coming up to the end of the term for me so I don't actually want this to start for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: mail-mi on May 28, 2020, 06:38:46 pm
Also, this is coming up to the end of the term for me so I don't actually want this to start for a couple of weeks.

There's one spot left in Stormlight for anyone who wants to start sooner than a couple of weeks...
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: EFHW on May 28, 2020, 11:00:14 pm
/hammer

This doesn't have to be the hammer if others want to play too.  I'll limit the setup we pick to 13 people at most.

I'd play (/in)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: EFHW on May 29, 2020, 11:11:40 am
What if instead of one random word, we had to use the next two random words?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: 2.71828..... on May 29, 2020, 11:36:58 am
/tag
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: chairs on May 30, 2020, 05:12:30 pm
So the post can be perfectly normal except for the inclusion of the next word off your word list, as long as that word manages to be artfully inserted into the smooth buttery dialectic of your post?

If so, /in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on May 30, 2020, 06:14:01 pm
So the post can be perfectly normal except for the inclusion of the next word off your word list, as long as that word manages to be artfully inserted into the smooth buttery dialectic of your post?

If so, /in

Yep.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on May 31, 2020, 11:41:37 pm
Added a clarification that you might want to know:

The word must be used in its original form.  For example, if the word was "talk", "talking" would not count.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Jimmmmm on May 31, 2020, 11:44:28 pm
/in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: chairs on June 02, 2020, 05:08:28 pm
Still very /in
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Calamitas on June 03, 2020, 07:48:44 am
/tag
The rule should be also enforced in the speccy imo :-)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: EFHW on June 03, 2020, 09:27:10 am
/tag
The rule should be also enforced in the speccy imo :-)
^^
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: MiX on June 03, 2020, 09:30:44 am
Is deliberate lack of using words to be modkilled encouraged or treated as breaking the rules?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on June 03, 2020, 02:30:53 pm
Is deliberate lack of using words to be modkilled encouraged or treated as breaking the rules?

It's breaking the rules.  Don't do it.  I don't take deliberate breaking of the rules lightly, and if you do, I will make you lose.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on June 11, 2020, 07:48:36 pm
I'm going to lock signups tomorrow so we can start soon.  If anybody else wants to join, do it now.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Jimmmmm on June 12, 2020, 04:45:42 am
I'm going to lock signups tomorrow so we can start soon.  If anybody else wants to join, do it now.

Sorry, I'm going to need to /out. It sounds fun but it's not a good idea for me.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on June 12, 2020, 06:27:04 pm
Alright, signups are locked.  Looking on mafia scum, the two 11-player setups I am willing to try are Follow the Cop... or Not (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Follow_the_Cop..._or_Not) and Friends and Enemies and enemies and That Other Guy (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Friends_and_Enemies_and_Enemies_and_That_Other_Guy), but I'll admit that second one is mainly just the name.  I know that some people in the past haven't like multiball before, though.  Could you all say which setup you prefer, and if you really don't like one, please say so.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: mail-mi on June 12, 2020, 06:30:04 pm
I don't have a big preference. I think the second would be funny if we have to hold to the random word rule in QTs.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on June 12, 2020, 06:33:36 pm
I don't have a big preference. I think the second would be funny if we have to hold to the random word rule in QTs.

This includes things like the Mafia QT.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: MiX on June 12, 2020, 06:36:35 pm
The first one's weird. It's a tracker game with a roleblocker that is probably solved if the roleblocker gets copped. Would be interesting to try out just to see if it's fun, I guess.

The second one's multiball, which is kinda meh? But it has a lot of QTs and this "setup" likes QTs.

What I would say is the first one's better for a serious but less fun game, whereas the second one's good for a fun but not very serious game due to multiball.

I think overall the second setup's better for what this is trying to accomplish. It's called BM after all.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: LaLight on June 12, 2020, 07:17:03 pm
I LOVE the second setup. I vaguely remember wanting to mod it couple of years ago and ended up thinking it's too wonky
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: chairs on June 12, 2020, 07:46:20 pm
i like multi ball
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: Swowl on June 12, 2020, 11:16:26 pm
good for whatever - have no opinion about multi balls :P
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: scolapasta on June 12, 2020, 11:38:32 pm
More neighborhoods sound fun - and I have yet to play a multiball, so why not?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on June 13, 2020, 01:02:40 am
Alright, I know not everybody has replied, but there is a lot of support for the second one, so that's the setup we will use.  I'll get started here soon.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on June 13, 2020, 02:24:42 am
Alright, let's get started!

THREAD LOCKED, except for tags
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on June 13, 2020, 02:33:35 am
All PMs are out.  Please confirm in your QTs.  Day 1 will start once I have received all confirmations.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (N0)
Post by: sudgy on June 13, 2020, 06:51:33 pm
Reminder, since many people are forgetting: you do not need to follow the word restriction in your personal QT, AND USING THE WORDS IN IT WILL NOT COUNT.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (N0)
Post by: sudgy on June 14, 2020, 08:45:09 pm
Everyone's jaw was wide open.  They decided to wake each resident up to resolve the matter.  Even the retiree closed their software.  A banana was laying on the floor, left by the one who had been murdered in cold blood at some dark hour.  Left behind was a single note: "We await your resignation.  -The Mafia".

DAY 1 START

Vote Count 1.1

Not Voting (11): Joseph2302, MiX, WestCoastDidds, mail-mi, Galzria, scolapasta, LaLight, Awaclus, Swowl, EFHW, chairs

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 will end Sunday, June 21 at 9:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: chairs on June 14, 2020, 08:50:38 pm
First I would like to thank our moderator for an exquisite choice of Bastardization. I'm delighted by the finery this selection provides to the English language connoisseurs in our group.

Also, vote: awaclus
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Awaclus on June 14, 2020, 08:53:25 pm
By process of elimination, I've concluded that Swowl must be scum. Specifically, the process is that we'll eliminate Swowl and then we'll find out that he is scum.

Vote: Swowl
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 14, 2020, 08:58:54 pm
Okay welcome to the best/worst game of all time.

Not to brag, but I'm fairly certain I will be top poster (you can try Didds!) and so it will be most punishing to me. But hey, what's mafia without a little spice?

Scola hates D1s, let's give him a reason to.

Vote: scola
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 14, 2020, 09:00:23 pm
First I would like to thank our moderator for an exquisite choice of Bastardization. I'm delighted by the finery this selection provides to the English language connoisseurs in our group.

Also, vote: awaclus

I agree! Thank you Sudgy for such an awesome game/idea/concept!

Swowl: Can you please change your IT username to match your name change so that I don’t confuse myself when I filter the thread for your posts?

So, I should probably read the setup. Anybody have any D1 plans?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 14, 2020, 09:04:58 pm
MiX, I will challenge (And lose) to you! This game is going to be tense enough as is not to mess up my list lol - being the top poster might be a little too much to aim for lol.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 14, 2020, 09:06:20 pm
First I would like to thank our moderator for an exquisite choice of Bastardization. I'm delighted by the finery this selection provides to the English language connoisseurs in our group.

Also, vote: awaclus

I agree! Thank you Sudgy for such an awesome game/idea/concept!

Swowl: Can you please change your IT username to match your name change so that I don’t confuse myself when I filter the thread for your posts?

So, I should probably read the setup. Anybody have any D1 plans?

I don't think there's any D1 plans for this setup. It seems to be about fakeclaims, and how masonry is a fun thing to fakeclaim. I think it's fairly complicated to the point where scum would have to acquire the cunning of a fox to decipher the correct play in any given gamestate and develop the bravery of an ox to test their intuition.

Some words will prove to be harder than others. Please excuse my failed analogies that will happen in this game.

MiX, I will challenge (And lose) to you! This game is going to be tense enough as is not to mess up my list lol - being the top poster might be a little too much to aim for lol.

You will lose, but a posting Galzria is a town Galzria, I wish you the best of luck.

Wall posts (quoting more than one thing (take that Lynchpool)) are both a blessing and a curse.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 14, 2020, 09:17:01 pm
First I would like to thank our moderator for an exquisite choice of Bastardization. I'm delighted by the finery this selection provides to the English language connoisseurs in our group.

Also, vote: awaclus

I agree! Thank you Sudgy for such an awesome game/idea/concept!

Swowl: Can you please change your IT username to match your name change so that I don’t confuse myself when I filter the thread for your posts?

So, I should probably read the setup. Anybody have any D1 plans?

I don't think there's any D1 plans for this setup. It seems to be about fakeclaims, and how masonry is a fun thing to fakeclaim. I think it's fairly complicated to the point where scum would have to acquire the cunning of a fox to decipher the correct play in any given gamestate and develop the bravery of an ox to test their intuition.

Some words will prove to be harder than others. Please excuse my failed analogies that will happen in this game.

MiX, I will challenge (And lose) to you! This game is going to be tense enough as is not to mess up my list lol - being the top poster might be a little too much to aim for lol.

You will lose, but a posting Galzria is a town Galzria, I wish you the best of luck.

Wall posts (quoting more than one thing (take that Lynchpool)) are both a blessing and a curse.

Analogies this game are going to be a mishmash orgy of ridiculous phrases. For an example, see that last sentence.

Obligatory: MiX, why aren’t you scum this game?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 14, 2020, 09:19:58 pm
So, I should probably read the setup. Anybody have any D1 plans?

I hope I'm first in the queue because I do!

Also vote: MiX
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 14, 2020, 09:23:07 pm
Analogies this game are going to be a mishmash orgy of ridiculous phrases. For an example, see that last sentence.

Obligatory: MiX, why aren’t you scum this game?

It's not drunk mafia, my posture's much better in this game. Or so I hope, at least if I don't post at 2 am (oops.)

Otherwise I can't give you a satisfactory answer. Maybe it's because you're scum?

I usually have a dictionary tab open for mafia. For this game it's practically part of the setup :P
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 14, 2020, 09:25:34 pm
This game is gonna make me jump out of a helicopter.

I will change my shuffle tag.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 14, 2020, 09:27:06 pm
In addition - thanks for game Sudgy.

Also also - Vote: Awaclus

Process of elimination
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 14, 2020, 09:36:57 pm
Analogies this game are going to be a mishmash orgy of ridiculous phrases. For an example, see that last sentence.

Obligatory: MiX, why aren’t you scum this game?

It's not drunk mafia, my posture's much better in this game. Or so I hope, at least if I don't post at 2 am (oops.)

Otherwise I can't give you a satisfactory answer. Maybe it's because you're scum?

I usually have a dictionary tab open for mafia. For this game it's practically part of the setup :P

Ooh - I like (in theory) the “because you’re scum and you already know I’m not” argument. It’s incorrect, but it’s the best answer you’ve given me yet.

MiX! Wanna make a pact? D1 you vote for whoever I tell you to, and D2 I’ll vote for whoever you tell me to. Caveat: If you’re nonremittal D1 (or I am nonremittal D2) we get to vote each other for the remainder of the game.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 14, 2020, 09:47:34 pm
Hi hi hi hi!!

Ah, MiX...I’m not sure that I really post anywhere near as much as you do. I’m just the most likely person in this game to use my posts to divine interesting information about your lives and/or cocktail recipes. You’ll definitely get through your list faster than I will.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 14, 2020, 09:57:18 pm
Awaclus! It’s so good to get a chance to see you! And chairs, it’s awesome to have you coming around again!

Everyone else...Hi!!  I hope that you are all healthy and doing well.

Let it be known that when the word I have to use is rather remedial, I will just add some mellifluous words to the post to help elevate our collective vocabulary,
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Awaclus on June 14, 2020, 10:09:29 pm
Awaclus! It’s so good to get a chance to see you!

But... you can't see me  ???

Analogies this game are going to be a mishmash orgy of ridiculous phrases. For an example, see that last sentence.

Obligatory: MiX, why aren’t you scum this game?

It's not drunk mafia, my posture's much better in this game. Or so I hope, at least if I don't post at 2 am (oops.)

Otherwise I can't give you a satisfactory answer. Maybe it's because you're scum?

I usually have a dictionary tab open for mafia. For this game it's practically part of the setup :P

This really just seems like an attempt to feign towniness. Vote: MiX
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 14, 2020, 10:56:33 pm
I was hoping someone would ask me about my plan. I thought we were a family. :(
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 14, 2020, 11:59:20 pm
Hi all.

I'll admit I do love WCD's initial "hihihi" posts. It makes me feel so welcome.

I feel I'm not usually a heavy poster, but that in this game I'll want to post more often, just to use my words. I just hope I remember to make valid posts.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 15, 2020, 12:01:29 am
I was hoping someone would ask me about my plan. I thought we were a family. :(

OK. Since I feel like in every game I've played, we stumble out of the gate with no plan, I'm willing to be the one to ask:

@mail-mi - what's the plan?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 03:22:05 am
In terms of this game, let's get this party started

I'm the SK

Saying this is like a pre written movie script now
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 03:23:15 am
The body of text in this game is going to be hilarious

Oh and Vote: LL is the new normal for me
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 03:26:06 am
I have just read the setup, and don't think much D1 role discussion is possible. It's a multi ball open setup, and I think mason claim D1 is premature (as they're the only PRs that we have to crucify all these scum factions)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 03:28:21 am
Oh and I'm deliberately adding more stupid words to some posts, because why not? Makes moderating harder, slap in the face for making this game lol. The text rule makes this occasion more interesting and flamboyent for sure
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 06:11:32 am
ok, so the beginning of the day is like I don't know english at all. hell.

Anyway, in this game I will try to keep my honor and vote only for scum. For example vote: MiX
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: chairs on June 15, 2020, 07:59:35 am
I really can't endorse SK claims.

Vote: joseph
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 08:09:38 am
it's interesting how the inclusion of the words makes the posts I want to make much more thorough. As thorough as you must be not to overeat in one evening!

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 08:11:55 am
I also just noticed, that one mislynch can pretty much cost us a game. let's not kid around, what do you think of Masons claiming? (not the UB mason of course)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 08:12:52 am
This game makes it harder to post during the night.

I was hoping someone would ask me about my plan. I thought we were a family. :(

I was expecting you to say something out of your own volition. I presume it was a joke then? That makes sense.

ok, so the beginning of the day is like I don't know english at all. hell.

Anyway, in this game I will try to keep my honor and vote only for scum. For example vote: MiX

We're back to MiX wagon D1, this is the third vote lol.

Hi all.

I'll admit I do love WCD's initial "hihihi" posts. It makes me feel so welcome.

I feel I'm not usually a heavy poster, but that in this game I'll want to post more often, just to use my words. I just hope I remember to make valid posts.

Okay I guess this is never going to be a good RVS vote will it.

I think Vote: Galzria is scum. Didn't like how he backed off.

it's interesting how the inclusion of the words makes the posts I want to make much more thorough. As thorough as you must be not to overeat in one evening!

Weird, right? I've even thought of making a collection of sentences with my future words because writing is fun but spamming the thread isn't.

I also just noticed, that one mislynch can pretty much cost us a game. let's not kid around, what do you think of Masons claiming? (not the UB mason of course)

We should allow for people to claim at L-1 more than average. Also, I think we can have a perfect lynch game and still lose, but I'd need to math that one out.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 08:17:57 am
Here's a confession: I am not a math person. But let's try:

Worst case scenario with perfect lynches:

Lynch scum - kill 2 towns

D2: 2-1-5

lynch another scum - kill 2 towns

D3 - 1-1-3

Lynch scum - kill town

1-2

you're wrong.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 08:18:46 am
so let's lynch perfectly without a single disturbance.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 08:22:42 am
Here's a confession: I am not a math person. But let's try:

Worst case scenario with perfect lynches:

Lynch scum - kill 2 towns

D2: 2-1-5

lynch another scum - kill 2 towns

D3 - 1-1-3

Lynch scum - kill town

1-2

you're wrong.

Oh ok.

so let's lynch perfectly without a single disturbance.

Well you also assumed perfect NKs which is why this setup is great!

Luckily we can't cross out scenarios where scum goes at each other, and that'll be...necessary?

For each mislynch, scum has to shoot scum. Right? And if a team dies N1 we have 1 more mislynch? Sounds about right.

Oh they can also shoot the same player lol. Okay so chances are we get 1 to 2 mislynches this game.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 08:25:59 am
фnd if Masons claim it can undermine scum's plans.

Also maybe one mason should claim, so scum will WIFOM each other into killing them or not killing them. Sounds amazing.

I'm a Mason.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 08:30:46 am
The problem is that we do not have a daychat, which is very unusual for Masons, but oh well. My eternal playing on this forum might help here a little. I don't think I ever was an IC.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 08:34:00 am
also, if I get erased by scum harvest, my partner is the new IC, if they get demolished by scum wrecking ball, the backup is the new IC. So given that scum might avoid killing us to not hit the same target, we will have ICs for the whole game. Amazing.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 08:43:23 am
фnd if Masons claim it can undermine scum's plans.

Also maybe one mason should claim, so scum will WIFOM each other into killing them or not killing them. Sounds amazing.

I'm a Mason.

Well this sounds correct. I'm not a mason given we just had this conversation now and not at night.

also, if I get erased by scum harvest, my partner is the new IC, if they get demolished by scum wrecking ball, the backup is the new IC. So given that scum might avoid killing us to not hit the same target, we will have ICs for the whole game. Amazing.

Well if both masons die then the backup's just a named townie. Although given this quotation:

The Backup Mason is given a Vanilla Townie Role PM initially and will convert when one of the Masons dies.  If both Masons die at the same time, the Backup Mason will still receive a PM revealing their role and the Mason QT.  If the Backup Mason is killed before joining, they will flip as a VT, but if they are killed after joining, they will flip as a generic Mason, not as a Backup Mason (this shouldn't really matter and I couldn't find any precedent but thought I would mention it).  If the Mason is killed during the night, the Backup and the other Mason will be notified at the start of the next day but will be unable to talk to each other until the next night.

Scum will most likely not be able to claim third mason. Actually,

If the first mason and backup mason are NKd, does backup mason convert before they die?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: chairs on June 15, 2020, 09:43:24 am
The awkward bit would be third mason if the first two die isn't an IC since nobody can confirm, we can only deal with counter claim
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: chairs on June 15, 2020, 09:46:59 am
Well that's a second time I've phone posted without remembering to use the word list. That's probably not gonna fly so my apologies. Assuming the mod doesn't modkill me for it I'm going to apologize in advance for the profs I'm going to incur as I can't actually play from a computer for the next two days.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 10:00:12 am
Well that's a second time I've phone posted without remembering to use the word list. That's probably not gonna fly so my apologies. Assuming the mod doesn't modkill me for it I'm going to apologize in advance for the profs I'm going to incur as I can't actually play from a computer for the next two days.

You think phone posting is bad, now try almost-asleep posting. The amount I had to concentrate just to write the 2 am post was staggering, and I failed because I said "posture's" instead of "posture".

The awkward bit would be third mason if the first two die isn't an IC since nobody can confirm, we can only deal with counter claim

Half of the times the dead mason can breadcrumb.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 15, 2020, 10:30:03 am
Welp, lalight stole my plan, except mine was for both masons to claim. It was pretty air-tight, I thought.

Also no one else should comment about the plan so we don't out our second mason.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 15, 2020, 11:23:32 am
I am good with language, but it turns out I am bad at reading, so I got a warning, too! List management is hard.

Okay, so there was/is a plan, and it has already been put into motion and so now we just chill?

Has EFHW checked in with us yet? 

Is it a good time to vote: Joseph?

Scola!  How are you and how have you been?  Awa...I see you in my mind's eye. MiX, who is scum??
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 11:32:39 am
The plan has been executed: LL is town. I think it's worse than the alternative I was thinking of, but scum can't coordinate so he might live lol. And as he said, it essencially creates an immortal IC, as when he dies someone takes his place.

To answer your request, Didds, I think Galzria is scum, followed by chairs/scola.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 15, 2020, 11:39:33 am
vote: Galzria, ket's get some activity here. Also I believe MiX's buttocks about him
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 12:31:02 pm
I am good with language, but it turns out I am bad at reading, so I got a warning, too! List management is hard.

Okay, so there was/is a plan, and it has already been put into motion and so now we just chill?

Has EFHW checked in with us yet? 

Is it a good time to vote: Joseph?

Scola!  How are you and how have you been?  Awa...I see you in my mind's eye. MiX, who is scum??
Seems like you're trying to build an empire of Joseph votes
That's not a good idea
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 12:32:00 pm
Vote: WCD the transaction of voting for me displays obvious contempt for the good team
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 15, 2020, 12:38:09 pm
I, for one, am still happy with my MiX vote. It is no longer an RVS vote.

I will still be able to talk throughout today, I'll be in my home office so @ me if you have any questions.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 15, 2020, 02:22:34 pm
If the first mason and backup mason are NKd, does backup mason convert before they die?

No.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 15, 2020, 02:34:49 pm
People have been slipping up more than I though they would, so the fail count has been increased from three to five.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 15, 2020, 02:45:33 pm
There has been some confusion regarding punctuation.  Most punctuation does not modify words, but there are a few exceptions: first, the apostrophe " ' " and the accent " ` " always modifies the word.  Second, the hyphen " - " (or the en dash or em dash, but those are annoying to type) modifies the word depending on usage.  If it connects two words, it modifies the words into a single word.  If it is used to connect two longer phrases, it has not modified anything.  If it is used to specify a range, it has not modified anything.  If it is used as a minus sign, it has not modified anything.  If it is used as an interrupter, it has not modified anything.  Please ask me about any other uses of the hyphen or dashes.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 15, 2020, 03:02:50 pm
There has been some confusion regarding punctuation.  Most punctuation does not modify words, but there are a few exceptions: first, the apostrophe " ' " and the accent " ` " always modifies the word.  Second, the hyphen " - " (or the en dash or em dash, but those are annoying to type) modifies the word depending on usage.  If it connects two words, it modifies the words into a single word.  If it is used to connect two longer phrases, it has not modified anything.  If it is used to specify a range, it has not modified anything.  If it is used as a minus sign, it has not modified anything.  If it is used as an interrupter, it has not modified anything.  Please ask me about any other uses of the hyphen or dashes.

Huh, it didn't occur to me that we would have to worry about punctuation! Glad at least there's no masculine or feminine nouns in english to worry about, as well.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 15, 2020, 03:05:07 pm
I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 04:03:02 pm
I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?

Not particularly. His read on me seems a little far-fetched and stretched but it doesn’t strike me as scummy. I’m going to need to retire my offer to him though, and that makes me sad. I had hoped that he would take me up on it. No way I offer to sacrifice my vote to the whims of another player if I’m scum though!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 04:08:35 pm
I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?

It's pretty hard to post random stuff, but overall it makes each post...somewhat better, surprisingly.

I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?

Not particularly. His read on me seems a little far-fetched and stretched but it doesn’t strike me as scummy. I’m going to need to retire my offer to him though, and that makes me sad. I had hoped that he would take me up on it. No way I offer to sacrifice my vote to the whims of another player if I’m scum though!

I reeeeally don't think you're town. Look at this statement. This would make sense if you did sacrifice your vote, but did you?

It's pretty hard to put these words in context. The above sentences are weirdly worded and I don't like it.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 04:10:58 pm
I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?

It's pretty hard to post random stuff, but overall it makes each post...somewhat better, surprisingly.

I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?

Not particularly. His read on me seems a little far-fetched and stretched but it doesn’t strike me as scummy. I’m going to need to retire my offer to him though, and that makes me sad. I had hoped that he would take me up on it. No way I offer to sacrifice my vote to the whims of another player if I’m scum though!

I reeeeally don't think you're town. Look at this statement. This would make sense if you did sacrifice your vote, but did you?

It's pretty hard to put these words in context. The above sentences are weirdly worded and I don't like it.

I didn’t sacrifice my vote because you didn’t take me up on my offer. Just because you don’t walk through a lily field doesn’t mean the lily field doesn’t exist.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 04:14:06 pm
I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?

It's pretty hard to post random stuff, but overall it makes each post...somewhat better, surprisingly.

I'm finding it hard to find the motivation to post random stuff while I'm on my computer because of the random word requirement.

I like that we have a mason claim to get the game started, though.

Anyone want to lynch MiX with me?

Not particularly. His read on me seems a little far-fetched and stretched but it doesn’t strike me as scummy. I’m going to need to retire my offer to him though, and that makes me sad. I had hoped that he would take me up on it. No way I offer to sacrifice my vote to the whims of another player if I’m scum though!

I reeeeally don't think you're town. Look at this statement. This would make sense if you did sacrifice your vote, but did you?

It's pretty hard to put these words in context. The above sentences are weirdly worded and I don't like it.

I didn’t sacrifice my vote because you didn’t take me up on my offer. Just because you don’t walk through a lily field doesn’t mean the lily field doesn’t exist.

If you’re worried that I might be scum who plans on abusing your vote D1 and then killing you N1 to avoid you using my vote D2, then let’s switch it. I’ll vote where you want me to D1, and you can vote where I want you to D2. The only harm I see in that proposal is that the later the game goes, the more valuable votes become - that’s why I suggested it the way I did the first time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 04:24:03 pm
If you’re worried that I might be scum who plans on abusing your vote D1 and then killing you N1 to avoid you using my vote D2, then let’s switch it. I’ll vote where you want me to D1, and you can vote where I want you to D2. The only harm I see in that proposal is that the later the game goes, the more valuable votes become - that’s why I suggested it the way I did the first time.

But I want to vote for you...this ain't fair.

I guess I can just vote for you tomorrow right? Get my revenge then?

Okay, let's cooperate for now, who isn't your scumbuddy?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 15, 2020, 04:31:50 pm
OK so LL is some variation of Mason - that is pretty much not arguable, so that is cool.

I am just gonna let this Galz and MiX thing play out here, but pretty much one of them have to be skum here... I think, or they are just fucking around. It is a BM, it could just be that.

They could also be skum together, great way to explain away VCA concerns being on same wagon when you "allow someone to vote for you" down the road when we look back at wagons. Just saying.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 04:33:43 pm
If you’re worried that I might be scum who plans on abusing your vote D1 and then killing you N1 to avoid you using my vote D2, then let’s switch it. I’ll vote where you want me to D1, and you can vote where I want you to D2. The only harm I see in that proposal is that the later the game goes, the more valuable votes become - that’s why I suggested it the way I did the first time.

But I want to vote for you...this ain't fair.

I guess I can just vote for you tomorrow right? Get my revenge then?

Okay, let's cooperate for now, who isn't your scumbuddy?

Well, there are a lot of people that aren't my scumbuddies. You, because you would know. LaLight, because they're town. Swowl, because we've only ever been scum together once (with Robz, ahhh, that was a glorious game). WCD because I've never been scumbuddies with her (or even shared an in-game QT. Sad!). Awaclus because... well, I don't have a good reason why he's not a scumbuddy with me - but he just isn't! Joseph isn't a scumbuddy because he's the SK, EFHW isn't a scumbuddy because she would've checked in by now, and mail-mi isn't a scumbuddy because he's probably something else entirely.

That leaves Scolapasta and Chairs to be my scumbuddies. Do you prefer that I vote for either of them? I have an appointment in about 45 minutes, so I may be a little in-and-out of thread today, but I'll vote wherever you suggest.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 04:34:39 pm
OK so LL is some variation of Mason - that is pretty much not arguable, so that is cool.

I am just gonna let this Galz and MiX thing play out here, but pretty much one of them have to be skum here... I think, or they are just fucking around. It is a BM, it could just be that.

They could also be skum together, great way to explain away VCA concerns being on same wagon when you "allow someone to vote for you" down the road when we look back at wagons. Just saying.

Given the context, it's most likely that it's a BM and I'm just fucking around. But yeah.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 04:45:52 pm
Actually...

Vote: Swowl (I’ll change if you tell me to MiX)

I’m not a big fan of his finger pointing here. I know that I’m Town, and I have no reason to think that MiX is scum (actually the opposite, I’ve found his reaction to be townie), despite my BM-fuckery.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 15, 2020, 04:49:06 pm
have you hit your head and became a patient at a hospital with a head injury or something?

my reasoning makes total sense!

Vote: Galz
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 05:00:40 pm
have you hit your head and became a patient at a hospital with a head injury or something?

my reasoning makes total sense!

Vote: Galz

Omg this is so characteristic of Swowl I almost forgot there was a posting restriction.

I'm fairly certain he's town based on this, but I might be biased.

I don't think they're partners with Galzria, so I wouldn't want to vote them...maybe I should get more scumreads?

Vote: Swowl if it's not Galzria it's probably Swowl, and I feel like assuming Galzria is town is correct.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 15, 2020, 05:02:56 pm
OK so LL is some variation of Mason - that is pretty much not arguable, so that is cool.

I am just gonna let this Galz and MiX thing play out here, but pretty much one of them have to be skum here... I think, or they are just fucking around. It is a BM, it could just be that.

They could also be skum together, great way to explain away VCA concerns being on same wagon when you "allow someone to vote for you" down the road when we look back at wagons. Just saying.

I thinks it’s some version of both....fucking around and fucking with us. They are both already kind of scum-likely and now they are just trolling us with over the top scumminess! Or it could be you and Galz doing the same thing. One of you is the unknowing banter partner and the other two laugh and laugh. I have to say it’s kind of charming though, but I’m a bit twisted so, there you go.

Oh, Galzy, we definitely need a QT one day! We could swap recipes and witty commentary and you could teach me stuff.

I hope the evening treats everyone well!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 05:05:47 pm
have you hit your head and became a patient at a hospital with a head injury or something?

my reasoning makes total sense!

Vote: Galz

I think you may be the spokesperson for “hit your head and become a patient at a hospital” syndrome.

I find it hard to believe that anybody could reasonably argue that it’s more likely for scum!Galzria to come out with an asinine play/suggestion just to fuck around and make a spectacle D1 than it is for town!Galzria to do so.

And considering from whichever vantage point - look at the way MiX has responded. It’s about the towniest response I’ve ever seen from MiX (which with my luck will probably make him scum, but that’s just how fate works sometimes).
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 15, 2020, 05:40:48 pm
When I read these posts I keep trying to figure out what the secret word is; I have to admit some of you have done a great job -  I wish I were as good a composer of posts as y'all to sneak my word in. Well, that or people will have a lot of disqualifications!

That said, I'm in my usual D1 lost on who's might be town vs scum.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 15, 2020, 06:19:58 pm
When I read these posts I keep trying to figure out what the secret word is; I have to admit some of you have done a great job -  I wish I were as good a composer of posts as y'all to sneak my word in. Well, that or people will have a lot of disqualifications!

That said, I'm in my usual D1 lost on who's might be town vs scum.

Just abridge your reread and vote MiX with me.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 06:44:49 pm
This vote string seems to be so much random made up stuff that it could be compared to Donald Trump's presidency
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 06:45:25 pm
We need to define who the town players are
LL appears to meet that criterion right now
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 06:46:28 pm
It would be good to get a circulation of the attack and lynch statistics

Request: vote count
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 15, 2020, 06:47:09 pm
And there are some people who have yet to give an opinion at this moment
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 15, 2020, 06:52:09 pm
I think one challenge of this set up - it contributes to a lot of environmental noise. Of course, I'm one of those contributors.

What's the case against MiX?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 15, 2020, 07:27:00 pm
When I read these posts I keep trying to figure out what the secret word is; I have to admit some of you have done a great job -  I wish I were as good a composer of posts as y'all to sneak my word in. Well, that or people will have a lot of disqualifications!

That said, I'm in my usual D1 lost on who's might be town vs scum.

Just abridge your reread and vote MiX with me.

Why are you adamant I'm scum? Given lynchpool, I think you're town, but that doesn't give me hope that you'll get an accurate read eventually.

I think one challenge of this set up - it contributes to a lot of environmental noise. Of course, I'm one of those contributors.

What's the case against MiX?

That's the main weakness of this setup, noise out of the posting restriction. It will be fun once votes start flying like crazy, don't worry.

Do you have reads? Not forcing it, just asking if you have any that stand out.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 15, 2020, 07:38:17 pm
I am super worried about when we need to poster faster and vote more frequently!  The identity of scum becomes more clear in those moments, but the posting rules are going to make it hard.

vote: Swowl I've been wrong about Galz a lot recently, or only half-right. So, I am going to endeavor to trust him for the moment
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 15, 2020, 08:36:30 pm
Words seemed to fly around like a butterfly leaving its habitat.  Everyone was worried about the domination of the mafia.  There had also been reports of creatures of a terrible size in the marsh.  This variable had to be taken into account.  Nobody could keep cool, an indication that there may never again be a calm scene.

Vote Count 1.2

Not Voting (2): scolapasta, EFHW
Galzria (2): LaLight, Swowl
MiX (2): mail-mi, Awaclus
WestCoastDidds (1): Joseph2302
Joseph2302 (1): chairs
Swowl (3): Galzria, MiX, WestCoastDidds

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 will end Sunday, June 21 at 9:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 15, 2020, 09:00:00 pm
I am super worried about when we need to poster faster and vote more frequently!  The identity of scum becomes more clear in those moments, but the posting rules are going to make it hard.

vote: Swowl I've been wrong about Galz a lot recently, or only half-right. So, I am going to endeavor to trust him for the moment

This is an extremely good point from WCD. We absolutely cannot let the lynch go to the wire where our collective output of posts generally goes up dramatically. There’s absolutely no way that we can balance that with the posting restriction.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Awaclus on June 15, 2020, 09:27:57 pm
I think one challenge of this set up - it contributes to a lot of environmental noise. Of course, I'm one of those contributors.

What's the case against MiX?

I'll impound my opinion on that and instead raise the question: what isn't the case against MiX?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 16, 2020, 07:43:33 am
Is "Not Voting" in the right spot in the vote count?

I am super worried about when we need to poster faster and vote more frequently!  The identity of scum becomes more clear in those moments, but the posting rules are going to make it hard.

vote: Swowl I've been wrong about Galz a lot recently, or only half-right. So, I am going to endeavor to trust him for the moment

This is an extremely good point from WCD. We absolutely cannot let the lynch go to the wire where our collective output of posts generally goes up dramatically. There’s absolutely no way that we can balance that with the posting restriction.

Oh dear lord you're right. This is actually going to be a hard game. Let's just assume Swowl is scum and roll with it that'll get the game going.

I think one challenge of this set up - it contributes to a lot of environmental noise. Of course, I'm one of those contributors.

What's the case against MiX?

I'll impound my opinion on that and instead raise the question: what isn't the case against MiX?

Oh Awaclus, how could I ever live without you. How does one answer that question? I'm curious now.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 16, 2020, 08:43:35 am
Good morning!

I find myself thinking about stopping in to say hi after I’ve read to catch up and see what’s going on, but sometimes the effort for coverage is not worth the effort of looking up my word. The words simultaneously tamp down extra posts, but also create all kinds of fluffy posts where the word choice can’t really be scrutinized because we’re all using new vocabulary, similes, metaphors, and other linguistic devices.

Does anyone have a good system for how they are managing their word lists? I’ve got mine in a note on my phone with check boxes, but it’s not terribly efficient. Better ideas?

I find it highly ironic that MiX is Awaclus’ biggest fan....and Awaclus is voting for MiX.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: chairs on June 16, 2020, 09:57:53 am
I'm just going to lodge my vote in camp swowl for now.

Vote: swowl
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 16, 2020, 10:28:49 am
I don't have the time for posting much today, sorry
Will post more tomorrow when I recruit some more energy
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 16, 2020, 10:29:18 am
And i don't have any strong vote nominations yet
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 16, 2020, 10:35:55 am
Good morning!

I find myself thinking about stopping in to say hi after I’ve read to catch up and see what’s going on, but sometimes the effort for coverage is not worth the effort of looking up my word. The words simultaneously tamp down extra posts, but also create all kinds of fluffy posts where the word choice can’t really be scrutinized because we’re all using new vocabulary, similes, metaphors, and other linguistic devices.

Does anyone have a good system for how they are managing their word lists? I’ve got mine in a note on my phone with check boxes, but it’s not terribly efficient. Better ideas?

I find it highly ironic that MiX is Awaclus’ biggest fan....and Awaclus is voting for MiX.

sudgy gave me permission to copy the list in my QT and edit it as I use words.

Also, you know what fills me with excitement? Lynching lurkers. vote: efhw where you at?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 16, 2020, 10:38:07 am
Good morning!

I find myself thinking about stopping in to say hi after I’ve read to catch up and see what’s going on, but sometimes the effort for coverage is not worth the effort of looking up my word. The words simultaneously tamp down extra posts, but also create all kinds of fluffy posts where the word choice can’t really be scrutinized because we’re all using new vocabulary, similes, metaphors, and other linguistic devices.

Does anyone have a good system for how they are managing their word lists? I’ve got mine in a note on my phone with check boxes, but it’s not terribly efficient. Better ideas?

I find it highly ironic that MiX is Awaclus’ biggest fan....and Awaclus is voting for MiX.

sudgy gave me permission to copy the list in my QT and edit it as I use words.

Also, you know what fills me with excitement? Lynching lurkers. vote: efhw where you at?

Who? Oh EFHW. Yeah that's town!EFHW, I deny the petition to lynch lurkers.

That's good management, just doesn't work for mobile.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 16, 2020, 11:26:16 am
I have mine as achecklist in Trello.

I hear everyone about end of day posting, but I also am looking forward to it.

Right now, if I I can't think if a way to sneak my word in during my daily conversations with the Europeans, I can just think in it for a while, and thens slip it in by the time the West coast folks are posting.

No such luxury, end of day, so I feel that the increased absurdity level* will be entertaining.

*posts comparing giraffes to blueberries and four poster beds will become the norm
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 16, 2020, 11:41:08 am
No argument from me about increased absurdity

How about Prod EFHW, please

Trello is a good one. Hmm.....  MiXy, any good word list management strategies on mobile?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 16, 2020, 11:46:51 am
No argument from me about increased absurdity

How about Prod EFHW, please

Trello is a good one. Hmm.....  MiXy, any good word list management strategies on mobile?

Just look at the list a bunch and try to remember which word you last used...yeah I got nothing.

I suggest posting once in a while to refresh your memory and to keep the last used word in recent memory. Otherwise I'm open to a promotion of my current rudimentary system. The only good thing about it is being the same one for mobile and PC.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 16, 2020, 11:54:02 am
Yeah, I don’t have anything special. I just keep the list open in a second tab and remember where I’m at. I haven’t found tracking my list to be particularly difficult. The words are generally obscure enough that I’m not going to forget that I’ve already past “corn”, or “groundskeeper”, or “royalty” etc - most words aren’t exactly commonly used in a Mafia game post afterall, and the thought used to craft a post is enough for me to glance at the list and go “yeah, I’ve used up to “granite” so far, my next word is “plague””.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 16, 2020, 12:25:48 pm
Ya'll are clearly better at holding things in your memory than I am. I can remember....in my mind's eye....back when I was a young lass with a super memory, but those days have faded. Perhaps with the onset of so many freaking mental responsibilities. 

Like father's day.  Hey, its almost father's day in the Us.  If you have a father, and he is somewhat better than awful and still alive, send a card.  My dad died years and years ago on father's day weekend, so this is never my favorite time of year but dads in general are awesome so, if you have one, be sweet to him on Sunday.

In the meantime.... I think I am sold on scum!Swowl, but I am also curious about Awaclus.  MiX, are you feeling in your usual role of Awa defender? Why is he town...or IS HE?!?!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 16, 2020, 12:50:13 pm
Thanks for sharing that personal story, WCD. Sorry to hear this time of year is difficult.

Care to elaborate on scum!Swowl reasoning? I'm, looking for somewhere to park my vote.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 16, 2020, 01:23:06 pm
Thanks for sharing that personal story, WCD. Sorry to hear this time of year is difficult.

Care to elaborate on scum!Swowl reasoning? I'm, looking for somewhere to park my vote.

For me, the case boils down to his statement of: “ I am just gonna let this Galz and MiX thing play out here, but pretty much one of them have to be skum here...”

It’s the definitive expression that strikes me as scummy. I see no reason that MiX and my interactions in any way indicate that one of us “must” be scum. I instigated some weird crap because it’s BM and I’m having fun messing around. I don’t think I do that ever as scum (make a spectacle for no discernible reason), but especially D1 with so much game left - and ESPECIALLY not in a multi-ball setup.

MiX, the target of my randomness, couldn’t exactly ignore me. So a statement of near certainty that “pretty much one of them have to be scum” feels entirely like he’s attempting to do one of two things:

Either one of us IS scum (but not his faction), so he’s trying to direct a lynch to us knowing it’s safe for him.

Or we’re both Town in which case at worst he’s hoping to influence the reads of his opposing scum faction into NK’ing us - again, a very safe outcome for him as it directs away from him/his partner.

It’s not a conclusive case all tied up in a knot, but I’m definitely feeling it for D1.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 16, 2020, 01:57:50 pm
Is "Not Voting" in the right spot in the vote count?

It doesn't really matter, but I can move it in the future if you want.

How about Prod EFHW, please

Prod sent.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 02:53:50 pm
I missed the game start! Sorry, not at all polite of me. I will catch up today.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 16, 2020, 03:02:52 pm
Welcome to the game, EFHW.

Allow me to demonstrate how to post within the rules.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 03:21:03 pm
First I would like to thank our moderator for an exquisite choice of Bastardization. I'm delighted by the finery this selection provides to the English language connoisseurs in our group.
This is a lovely post by chairs! I encourage you to treat us to more like it!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 03:23:58 pm
I don't have the authority to tell anyone else how to vote, which is good because I have no idea.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 16, 2020, 03:24:06 pm
Welcome, EFHW! The posting is weird, but it does have some appeal. If for no other reason than to encourage language games.

Thanks, Scola. Galz has summed up the Swowl case better than I could. Mostly it’s that I’m finding Galz more town than not, so Swowl gunning for him isn’t sitting quite correctly, askew if you will
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 16, 2020, 03:26:17 pm
OK, sure. This thread needs an injection of more votes, so:

vote: Swowl
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 03:31:15 pm
OK, sure. This thread needs an injection of more votes, so:

vote: Swowl
I think that's L-1. It isn't routine for us to run a wagon up so early in Day 1 (though it's not as early as it feels like to me!).
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 03:33:03 pm
We try to make a virtue out of announcing L-1. vote: scolapasta.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 16, 2020, 03:39:12 pm
I didn't even notice the count.

Since I'm not actually on a crusade against swowl:

unvote
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 16, 2020, 03:44:14 pm
I didn't even notice the count.

Since I'm not actually on a crusade against swowl:

unvote

I...believe you. In any other game I wouldn't, but this...

This game is a start of an era for mafia, and I can't believe I'm contemporary to it. I mean, is Swowl even scum? Who knows? Exactly 1 person (other than Swowl) might know.

I feel like I need to quote a ton of posts now, but...there's not much to say.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 16, 2020, 03:53:13 pm
I think my wagon has been a reservoir of information tbh.

1) I do not make cases on Day 1 as town... almost ever.
2) I do not make cases on Day 1 as skum... like ever ever.
3) If I were gonna actually try to push for a lynch as skum, it would be better than this.

 But more importantly, I made a vote based on like... the most far fetched theory on the planet. Not the case itself, but the fact that it has been responded to with such urgency... makes me feel just fine with pursing it at this point.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 16, 2020, 04:19:04 pm
I missed the game start! Sorry, not at all polite of me. I will catch up today.

Since you're the mother hen of all scum, is there any reason to believe your streak has stopped with this game?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 16, 2020, 06:02:57 pm
Oh, there is no super duper iron clad case on Swowl. It’s early days in a weird game. Still time to find a trainer and get better.

I also don’t think Scola was angling to get Swowl lynched. I don’t realize it was L-1 either. I’ve been more concerned about my words than the VC. I’ll be more cognizant now, though.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 16, 2020, 06:18:15 pm
Everybody put on their gear to try to restore joy, to reinforce order.  They knew this wasn't some simple competition.  As they tried to figure out who to send down the shaft, they thought back on simpler times.  They would go on cruises, a voyage of entertainment.  Yep, back then, the goal was very different.

Vote Count 1.3

Galzria (2): LaLight, Swowl
MiX (1): Awaclus
WestCoastDidds (1): Joseph2302
Swowl (4): Galzria, MiX, WestCoastDidds, chairs
EFHW (1): mail-mi
scolapasta (1): EFHW
Not Voting (1): scolapasta

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 1 will end Sunday, June 21 at 9:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 16, 2020, 06:55:31 pm
This case on swowl is about as sensible as trying to fly a broken helicopter without a licence
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Awaclus on June 16, 2020, 07:42:17 pm
The case on MiX is about as sensible as trying to install Gentoo.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 16, 2020, 08:01:40 pm
The case on MiX is about as sensible as trying to install Gentoo.

In this session of Mafia... why do you want to lynch MiX?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Awaclus on June 16, 2020, 08:15:20 pm
The case on MiX is about as sensible as trying to install Gentoo.

In this session of Mafia... why do you want to lynch MiX?

Fine, I will architect a better plan to get him lynched later.

Vote: Swowl
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Awaclus on June 16, 2020, 08:18:02 pm
Only one more vote to go and Swowl will be sent to the heavens like a constellation.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 16, 2020, 08:25:45 pm
However you slice it, I don't like this vote.

vote: Awaclus
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 08:40:03 pm
Why are you all so blurry? Oh, I took off my glasses!

vote: Awaclus.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 16, 2020, 08:40:55 pm
The case on MiX is about as sensible as trying to install Gentoo.

In this session of Mafia... why do you want to lynch MiX?

Fine, I will architect a better plan to get him lynched later.

Vote: Swowl

I am not 100% sure how I feel about swowl being lynched, but I embrace the concept of a shorter D1.

Swowl. Convince me not to hammer you.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 08:41:09 pm
I missed the game start! Sorry, not at all polite of me. I will catch up today.

Since you're the mother hen of all scum, is there any reason to believe your streak has stopped with this game?
If uncle were playing,  he would tell you I'm town.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 16, 2020, 08:41:51 pm
Why are you all so blurry? Oh, I took off my glasses!

vote: Awaclus.

However you slice it, I don't like this vote.

vote: Awaclus

Awaclus is a bad lunch.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 16, 2020, 08:42:47 pm
I missed the game start! Sorry, not at all polite of me. I will catch up today.

Since you're the mother hen of all scum, is there any reason to believe your streak has stopped with this game?
If uncle were playing,  he would tell you I'm town.

Since uncle is not playing, can you manufacture an explanation in his absence?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 16, 2020, 08:47:35 pm
I missed the game start! Sorry, not at all polite of me. I will catch up today.

Since you're the mother hen of all scum, is there any reason to believe your streak has stopped with this game?
If uncle were playing,  he would tell you I'm town.

Since uncle is not playing, can you manufacture an explanation in his absence?

Wait, wait, I can be uncle. Ahem:

"I think Swowl is scum.

I don't know, just a feel.

I can't make a case, that's what scum does.

It would be a crime not to lynch them.

But maybe I'm wrong.

Who knows.

EFHW can be scum, but I don't feel like it.

Let's vote, uh

Vote: scum"
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 16, 2020, 09:23:00 pm
I missed the game start! Sorry, not at all polite of me. I will catch up today.

Since you're the mother hen of all scum, is there any reason to believe your streak has stopped with this game?
If uncle were playing,  he would tell you I'm town.

Since uncle is not playing, can you manufacture an explanation in his absence?
Tick tick tick tick - nothing confirmable. Just the welcome sight of green text in my pm 🙂
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 16, 2020, 10:48:46 pm
I missed the game start! Sorry, not at all polite of me. I will catch up today.

Since you're the mother hen of all scum, is there any reason to believe your streak has stopped with this game?
If uncle were playing,  he would tell you I'm town.

Since uncle is not playing, can you manufacture an explanation in his absence?

Wait, wait, I can be uncle. Ahem:

"I think Swowl is scum.

I don't know, just a feel.

I can't make a case, that's what scum does.

It would be a crime not to lynch them.

But maybe I'm wrong.

Who knows.

EFHW can be scum, but I don't feel like it.

Let's vote, uh

Vote: scum"

to what scale are hydra accounts allowed now? Is this eddie?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 16, 2020, 10:58:44 pm
I get the distinct sense that MiX could imitate any one of us with chilling accuracy, if we offer him the opportunity. He is one of those keen observer folks.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 16, 2020, 11:05:05 pm
Swowl has posted and failed to draft a charter signifying why I should not hammer him. Can't decide if that's a town or scum trait.

My willingness to hammer has not changed, however.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 16, 2020, 11:26:36 pm
I had not realized that my wagon had was at the scale of L-1. I thought someone unvoted and put me at L-2.

I would point out that there is not actually a "charter" to hammer me here. As the case on me is as bad as my original one was on the Galz/MiX theory.

Regardless - I need a minute to finish a poker thing and then I will get to this. I am absolutely not changing my mind that there is skum in galz and mix. one of them may act this way for shits and gigs, but both... 0% chance. and then I come out skummy? someone run that through their head.

Whatever - need a few hours. I will be back

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Awaclus on June 16, 2020, 11:31:21 pm
I had not realized that my wagon had was at the scale of L-1. I thought someone unvoted and put me at L-2.

That did happen, but then I did exactly what a butterfly would have done and put you back at L-1.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 16, 2020, 11:34:45 pm
I had not realized that my wagon had was at the scale of L-1. I thought someone unvoted and put me at L-2.

That did happen, but then I did exactly what a butterfly would have done and put you back at L-1.

well I hope I have my hammer helmet on then
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 16, 2020, 11:53:37 pm
Swowl has posted and failed to draft a charter signifying why I should not hammer him. Can't decide if that's a town or scum trait.

My willingness to hammer has not changed, however.

You could be Hammer King. Royalty!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 17, 2020, 05:35:15 am
I want my clean revenge for M127! vote: Swowl
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Swowl on June 17, 2020, 06:03:06 am
Aw. VT.

Galz and mix probably skum of different factions.
I had a whole thing i wanted to get out, but I’ll save y’all :)

Good luck!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 17, 2020, 06:35:34 am
I want my clean revenge for M127! vote: Swowl

Oh that's done? Fun. Now I can say why I wanted to vote Swowl :P

Why did you hammer? In light of M127 you could've taken the sunrise of knowledge to read him better.

Aw. VT.

Galz and mix probably skum of different factions.
I had a whole thing i wanted to get out, but I’ll save y’all :)

Good luck!

Oh. Crap. Maybe I should've stuck with my Galzria scumread, there's no way you're wrong about BOTH of us. Right? Can you promise that Swan?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 17, 2020, 07:00:55 am
Guys, couldn't we have had some charity and not just lynched Swowl so early?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 17, 2020, 07:01:42 am
That wagon seems awful and mad, don't see how people thought the wagon wasn't intertwined with scum
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 17, 2020, 07:03:05 am
Guys, couldn't we have had some charity and not just lynched Swowl so early?

We could, and we should've, but I don't want to fling any mud at the people on the wagon that didn't hammer. I think the way the post restriction works we needed early wagons. It just turns out scum can quickhammer.

That wagon seems awful and mad, don't see how people thought the wagon wasn't intertwined with scum

I mean, I wanted to turn around and lynch scum in it (Galzria lol) but you know, hammer.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 17, 2020, 08:04:59 am
Guys, couldn't we have had some charity and not just lynched Swowl so early?

We could, and we should've, but I don't want to fling any mud at the people on the wagon that didn't hammer. I think the way the post restriction works we needed early wagons. It just turns out scum can quickhammer.


Do you think Lalight is scum, not a mason?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 17, 2020, 08:05:22 am
I mean, what's the hook? Is Lalight scum?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: LaLight on June 17, 2020, 09:02:55 am
that was a bad decision by me, but if it worked, it would've  been good.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 17, 2020, 10:40:43 am
I mean, Swowl could be trolling. Basic post-lynch scum tactic there.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 17, 2020, 11:08:50 am
I hope there’s theme music accompanied by the flips. A nice farewell guitar riff would be sweet.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: MiX on June 17, 2020, 11:18:09 am
I mean, what's the hook? Is Lalight scum?

Let's say that my gut, nay, my bowel, was screaming "SWOWL WAS QUICKHAMMERED" regardless of whoever hammered.

So, I guess it wasn't a scum quickhammer, but it was still a quickhammer.

that was a bad decision by me, but if it worked, it would've  been good.

I think it was bad regardless. We should've let Swowl find out who the other scum team is by scumhunting while knowing a partner while also giving us reads to find out who that partner was. Would've been much better than a hammer.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 17, 2020, 11:35:05 am
Holy cats! I didn't expect that to happen. Swowl is never lynched this early! I get the righteous indignation of the LL hammer, and don't think he is a mole. 

I guess we are just waiting on sudgy to wake up...

Theme music would be awesome.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: scolapasta on June 17, 2020, 11:53:29 am
I really don't get the quick hammer still early in the day - felt like Rocky knocking out Apollo Creed, when there were still many rounds to go in the fight!

That said, it kind of works for my schedule as I have a work zoom conference these next 3 days, so won't be around as much.

(If there's anything that I feel I critically need to answer, I'll try to get to it during some break, here or there)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 17, 2020, 12:07:59 pm
I really don't get the quick hammer still early in the day - felt like Rocky knocking out Apollo Creed, when there were still many rounds to go in the fight!

That said, it kind of works for my schedule as I have a work zoom conference these next 3 days, so won't be around as much.

(If there's anything that I feel I critically need to answer, I'll try to get to it during some break, here or there)

I mean, it makes for good theater. #popcorn

Honestly I’m not displeased with my reasoning for Swan here. It’s D1, and his statement was either scum-driven or poorly phrased. He generally doesn’t speak in absolutes, and it’s strange for him to pick something as arbitrary as a set of interactions (as compared to, say, competing claims) to setup a “one-of-two must be scum” argument
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 17, 2020, 12:08:39 pm
Swowl, you can pick your song. Light the way for us.

Mine is going to be 1901 by Phoenix.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 17, 2020, 12:09:26 pm
I assume he’ll flip VT here though, so that’s too bad.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 17, 2020, 12:15:48 pm
Swowl, you can pick your song. Light the way for us.

Mine is going to be 1901 by Phoenix.

If I’m killed during the day, it’s gotta be “Bye Bye Bye”.
If I’m killed at night I’ll have to put in a provision request of “Don’t You (Forget About Me)”, with full imagery of Judd Nelson raising his fist as he walks away.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: Galzria on June 17, 2020, 12:16:35 pm
C’mon Sudgy, we have the technology! Make it happen!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 17, 2020, 12:46:32 pm
THREAD LOCKED
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: sudgy on June 17, 2020, 01:00:47 pm
As everybody's jaw kept yapping, and their projection growing by the gallon, they suddenly had enthusiasm for one person.  It was the economist, who said he would hold a bow while giving a bow.  "Heteronyms?  That's crossing the line!"  By his own admission, it was pretty bad.  It was too late before they realized he was wearing normal clothes.  The rest of this story has been blocked due to censorship.

Final Day 1 Vote Count

Galzria (1): Swowl
WestCoastDidds (1): Joseph2302
Swowl (6): Galzria, MiX, WestCoastDidds, chairs, Awaclus, LaLight
EFHW (1): mail-mi
Awaclus (2): scolapasta, EFHW

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

Swowl has been lynched!  He was Bow, the Vanilla Townie.

NIGHT 1 START

Night 1 will end Friday, June 19 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 19, 2020, 01:01:23 pm
The vigorous estimate was that support is needed for the fairy.  Why?  The fairy had fear.  An excess amount.

Not anymore, actually, because LaLight has been killed!  He was Fear, the Town Mason.

There were other magnetic happenings last night.  The length of the king's elbow was too short.  The king's elbow was a wonder of the world.  You may think this is petty, but it turns out the suspicion was correct.

MiX has been killed!  He was King, the Mafia Goon.

DAY 2 START

Vote Count 2.1

Not Voting (8): Joseph2302, WestCoastDidds, mail-mi, Galzria, scolapasta, Awaclus, EFHW, chairs

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 will end Friday, June 26 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 19, 2020, 01:04:55 pm
Wowsers!  I was super bummed about Swowl, but then MiX was a baddie and got offed?  I mean, that is kind of awesome, right? I'm going with awesome.

Pour one out for LaLight. You'll be remembered well.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: chairs on June 19, 2020, 01:10:56 pm
A dead MiX is always a good thing in Mafia, as far as I'm concerned, but then he and I don't have much chemistry.

Too bad we didn't see scum pop each other, but this is still a decent N1 result for us, better than two dead masons at least.

I'm going to try to get time to reread D1 but I have a note I left myself about Galz being kinda scummy, so until I have time to digest how this new info changes things I think I'll vote: Galzria
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 19, 2020, 01:29:42 pm
A dead MiX is always a good thing in Mafia, as far as I'm concerned, but then he and I don't have much chemistry.

Too bad we didn't see scum pop each other, but this is still a decent N1 result for us, better than two dead masons at least.

I'm going to try to get time to reread D1 but I have a note I left myself about Galz being kinda scummy, so until I have time to digest how this new info changes things I think I'll vote: Galzria

It took me awhile to come around on MiX, but now I dig him. He has a super dry sense of humor that it takes a minute to get, so if you keep hanging around (welcome back, by the way!) you might soften towards him. Kind of like getting used to a new industry in your town.

Glaz was being super scummy, especially knowing that when he was pushing Swowl, he was getting town lynched.  And the original tussle he was having that drew all the attention was with MiX, if there is anyone as scum that would have a public faux-fight, it would be MiX and Galz. But that is all off memory.  I need to read once I actually get through with my work for today.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 19, 2020, 03:38:22 pm
It's good that me has not been mislynched yet
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 19, 2020, 03:38:55 pm
LL kill is obvious choice, as he was poking the stick by claiming
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: mail-mi on June 19, 2020, 04:07:01 pm
We all know I'm not a mason so no one else comment. Should the other mason claim? Let me write up a diagram:

Pros: IC for the day, one less person for the rest of us to reread, helpful with POE.

Cons: Likely to be killed tonight, gets rid of ability to claim at L-1 or such for reactions.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 19, 2020, 04:35:04 pm
Conference over! Now I can start reviewing and hopefully improve my scum reading today.

While I don't know LaLight well, based on his tagline, this reminded me of him:

(https://media.newyorker.com/cartoons/5ee3e3f664789badc094271f/master/w_2560,h_2279,c_limit/200622_a24102.jpg)

“And don’t come back.”
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 19, 2020, 08:08:17 pm
Let me sit down and work out what's happened D2 so far...


All done

Good that scum hit each other with the metallic, non rubber bullets
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 19, 2020, 08:13:46 pm
A dead MiX is always a good thing in Mafia, as far as I'm concerned, but then he and I don't have much chemistry.

Too bad we didn't see scum pop each other, but this is still a decent N1 result for us, better than two dead masons at least.

I'm going to try to get time to reread D1 but I have a note I left myself about Galz being kinda scummy, so until I have time to digest how this new info changes things I think I'll vote: Galzria

It took me awhile to come around on MiX, but now I dig him. He has a super dry sense of humor that it takes a minute to get, so if you keep hanging around (welcome back, by the way!) you might soften towards him. Kind of like getting used to a new industry in your town.

Glaz was being super scummy, especially knowing that when he was pushing Swowl, he was getting town lynched.  And the original tussle he was having that drew all the attention was with MiX, if there is anyone as scum that would have a public faux-fight, it would be MiX and Galz. But that is all off memory.  I need to read once I actually get through with my work for today.

I know we're all depressed about losing Swowl and LL, but why are you assuming Galz knew Swowl was town?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 19, 2020, 08:16:42 pm
A dead MiX is always a good thing in Mafia, as far as I'm concerned, but then he and I don't have much chemistry.

Too bad we didn't see scum pop each other, but this is still a decent N1 result for us, better than two dead masons at least.

I'm going to try to get time to reread D1 but I have a note I left myself about Galz being kinda scummy, so until I have time to digest how this new info changes things I think I'll vote: Galzria

It took me awhile to come around on MiX, but now I dig him. He has a super dry sense of humor that it takes a minute to get, so if you keep hanging around (welcome back, by the way!) you might soften towards him. Kind of like getting used to a new industry in your town.

Glaz was being super scummy, especially knowing that when he was pushing Swowl, he was getting town lynched.  And the original tussle he was having that drew all the attention was with MiX, if there is anyone as scum that would have a public faux-fight, it would be MiX and Galz. But that is all off memory.  I need to read once I actually get through with my work for today.


That’s a harsh sentiment. I may not have showed much remorse for getting Swan on D1, but that’s because I thought he was scum! I don’t know where you’re getting the “especially because Galz knew he was getting Town lynched” - I certainly did NOT!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 19, 2020, 08:27:26 pm
I WAS wrong about MiX, which I think I knew in my heart of hearts as I even posted about the irony that would exist as I was town reading him. Still, I’m not unhappy. It DID lead one scum faction to kill him, so yay for that.

Didds, you’re not entirely wrong that in a normal game, it would be within my range as scum to stage a fight with my partner publicly. Two things on that though: First, I wouldn’t do it D1 unless it was with someone like faust where if we DIDN’T go at each other it would be far more suspicious than us doing so - and Second (and this is the big, big point), I absolutely would not EVER do it in a Multi-ball (or likely public Vig) setup. That’s literally INVITING the other scum team to shoot me at night.

MiX didn’t really have a choice but to engage with me. I forced that on him. For him, it’s really unfortunate that he WAS scum, because there wasn’t any way out of my forced interaction, and it drew attention. I guarantee that whole thing wasn’t in his gameplan going in to D1. 😁

Still, if y’all want to start a revolution against me, so be it. I’m happy to go out D2 having been responsible for forcing scum!MiX into the open D1, and as a result, lead to him being NK’d N1.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 19, 2020, 08:30:20 pm
I will, however, continue to search for our next mark. Just... not tonight. Just got home from a long hike and I’m sore & tired.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 19, 2020, 08:31:19 pm
It’s only 5:30 on the West Coast though... so maybe I’ll find some energy before I pass out.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 19, 2020, 08:32:56 pm
Also, for the record, I had 1 more post than MiX did D1. I win! 😋


... ok, enough fluff posts. I’ll close the door on my way out.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 19, 2020, 09:32:47 pm
I really don't get the quick hammer still early in the day - felt like Rocky knocking out Apollo Creed, when there were still many rounds to go in the fight!

That said, it kind of works for my schedule as I have a work zoom conference these next 3 days, so won't be around as much.

(If there's anything that I feel I critically need to answer, I'll try to get to it during some break, here or there)

I mean, it makes for good theater. #popcorn

Honestly I’m not displeased with my reasoning for Swan here. It’s D1, and his statement was either scum-driven or poorly phrased. He generally doesn’t speak in absolutes, and it’s strange for him to pick something as arbitrary as a set of interactions (as compared to, say, competing claims) to setup a “one-of-two must be scum” argument

I’m not trying to be harsh.... this sure seems to be imbued with a heap of certainty. If you’re scum (definitely possible) then you did know for sure that it was a frame up.  I’m not trying to suggest, however, that your definitely scum. Just near the top of my list right now, but I haven’t had my eye on the ball with summer school wrapping up.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 19, 2020, 09:39:57 pm

I know we're all depressed about losing Swowl and LL, but why are you assuming Galz knew Swowl was town?

Well, I don’t know that for sure, obviously. I realize that this may have sounded more blustery than I intended. After the flips, I’m just annoyed with myself for getting played.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 19, 2020, 10:39:51 pm
Three flips, one of them scum. Time to start a vca!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Awaclus on June 19, 2020, 11:41:30 pm
We all know I'm not a mason so no one else comment. Should the other mason claim? Let me write up a diagram:

Pros: IC for the day, one less person for the rest of us to reread, helpful with POE.

IC is useless on someone who isn't getting lynched anyway. There's another thing with this analysis that's off. To help me illustrate the point, we can think of each Mason as a node. Thinking of Masons as nodes doesn't help me illustrate the point and it isn't a very complicated point to begin with so let's not do that. It's possible (and actually more likely than not) that we have two Masons now. I think a Mason should only claim when it is necessary to prevent a lynch, maybe to dissolve a big wagon.

I also don't see why people couldn't comment on this. Nothing that I said here is indicative of whether or not I'm a Mason, and I would expect most people can discuss strategy from an objective perspective without revealing their roles.

In other news, vote: WCD
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 20, 2020, 07:58:36 am
Oh, Awa! That is so disappointing.

Not to sweep this away, but I’m headed to the river with the fam today. I think I’ll be around later, but it might not be until tomorrow.

Happy Father’s Day weekend!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 20, 2020, 03:57:56 pm
It's good to come out of the trance like state I was in during the conference. Now I can get back to these games. Thought it feels it's going to be a quiet weekend. So I may save more effort for next week.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 20, 2020, 06:08:23 pm
Double Rainbow - Here's the voting record for Day 1. Sorry it's so long. I couldn't get the color coding to transfer to the code box.

Vote count at post #50
 Awaclus (1): chairs
Not Voting (10): Joseph,  MiX, Didds, mailmi,  Swowl, EFHW, Awaclus, scolapasta, Galzria,  Lalight
 
Vote count at post #51
 Awaclus (1): chairs
  Swowl (1): Awaclus
Not Voting (9): Joseph,  MiX, Didds, mailmi,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria,  Lalight
 
Vote count at post #52
 Awaclus (1): chairs
  Swowl (1): Awaclus
 scolapasta (1): MiX
Not Voting (eight): Joseph, Didds, mailmi,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria,  Lalight
 
Vote count at post #57
 Awaclus (1): chairs
  Swowl (1): Awaclus
 scolapasta (1):  MiX
  MiX (1): mailmi
Not Voting (7): Joseph, Didds,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria,  Lalight
 
Vote count at post #64
 Awaclus (1): chairs
 scolapasta (1):  MiX
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
Not Voting (7): Joseph, Didds,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria,  Lalight
 
Vote count at post #69
 Awaclus (1): chairs
 scolapasta (1):  MiX
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
  Lalight (1): Joseph
Not Voting (6): Didds,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria,  Lalight
 
Vote count at post #72
 Awaclus (1): chairs
 scolapasta (1):  MiX
  MiX (3): mailmi, Awaclus, Lalight
  Lalight (1): Joseph
Not Voting (5): Didds,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria
 
Vote count at post #73
 scolapasta (1):  MiX
  MiX (3): mailmi, Awaclus,  Lalight
  Lalight (1): Joseph
 Joseph (1): chairs
Not Voting (5): Didds,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria
 
Vote count at post #76
  MiX (3): mailmi, Awaclus,  Lalight
  Lalight (1): Joseph
 Joseph (1): chairs
 Galzria (1): MiX
Not Voting (5): Didds,  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria
 
Vote count at post #88
  MiX (3): mailmi, Awaclus,  Lalight
  Lalight (1): Joseph
 Joseph (2): chairs, Didds
 Galzria (1):  MiX
Not Voting (4):  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria
 
Vote count at post #90
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
  Lalight (1): Joseph
 Joseph (2): chairs, Didds
 Galzria (2):  MiX, Lalight
Not Voting (4):  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria
 
Vote count at post #92
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
 Joseph (2): chairs, Didds
 Galzria (2):  MiX,  Lalight
 Didds (1): Joseph
Not Voting (4):  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta, Galzria
 
Vote count at post #107
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
 Joseph (2): chairs, Didds
 Galzria (2):  MiX,  Lalight
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (1): Galzria
Not Voting (3):  Swowl, EFHW, scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #108
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
 Joseph (2): chairs, Didds
 Galzria (3):  MiX,  Lalight, Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (1): Galzria
Not Voting (2): EFHW, scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #109
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
 Joseph (2): chairs, Didds
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (2): Galzria, MiX
Not Voting (2): EFHW, scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #120
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
 Joseph (1): chairs
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (3): Galzria,  MiX, Didds
Not Voting (2): EFHW, scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #126
  MiX (2): mailmi, Awaclus
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (4): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs
Not Voting (2): EFHW, scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #129
  MiX (1): Awaclus
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (4): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs
 EFHW (1): mailmi
Not Voting (2): EFHW, scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #144
  MiX (1): Awaclus
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (5): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs, scolapasta
 EFHW (1): mailmi
Not Voting (1): EFHW
 
Vote count at post #146
  MiX (1): Awaclus
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (5): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs, scolapasta
 EFHW (1): mailmi
 scolapasta (1): EFHW
 
Vote count at post #147
  MiX (1): Awaclus
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (4): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs
 EFHW (1): mailmi
 scolapasta (1): EFHW
Not Voting (1): scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #156
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (5): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs, Awaclus
 EFHW (1): mailmi
 scolapasta (1): EFHW
Not Voting (1): scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #158
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (5): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs, Awaclus
 EFHW (1): mailmi
 scolapasta (1): EFHW
 Awaclus (1): scolapasta
 
Vote count at post #159
 Galzria (2):  Lalight,  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (5): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs, Awaclus
 EFHW (1): mailmi
 Awaclus (2): scolapasta, EFHW
 
Vote count at post #173
 Galzria (1):  Swowl
 Didds (1): Joseph
  Swowl (6): Galzria,  MiX, Didds, chairs, Awaclus, Lalight
 EFHW (1): mailmi
 Awaclus (2): scolapasta, EFHW
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 20, 2020, 06:16:22 pm
Now I'll be a turkey and

vote: scolapasta

for four reasons. 1. MiX was on him for a "long" time (for MiX) at the start of the game. Early bussing is a common scum strategy. 2. scolapasta got on the Swowl wagon without checking the vc, suggesting he may not share town priorities. 3. He asked what the case was on MiX. 4. More fluff than usual.

Now, I am sure there are good explanations for each of these things, so I am not claiming to have an ironclad case. But it's where I lean at the moment.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 20, 2020, 07:08:59 pm
We pause this game for an important message.  Within the last century, the balance of votes has become accessible.  Do not hesitate to challenge each other so as to dilute the peace.  If you don't wish to do so, please hide in a bush until further notice.

Vote Count 2.2

Galzria (1): chairs
WestCoastDidds (1): Awaclus
scolapasta (1): EFHW
Not Voting (5): Joseph2302, WestCoastDidds, mail-mi, Galzria, scolapasta

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 will end Friday, June 26 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 21, 2020, 12:53:33 pm
Thanks, EFHW, for the hard work. That is really helpful. Scola definitely seems to skate by but I'm wondering how a
vote: Chairs might fit this situation.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 22, 2020, 07:02:04 am
This game feels like it has shut down. Needs a game owner to re invigorate and energise (energize) this witch hunt
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 22, 2020, 07:02:36 am
Because this thread is so bare
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: chairs on June 22, 2020, 08:07:22 am
Yeah, it seems like we need to throw in a fresh variable to keep the game rolling. Let's lynch Didds?

Vote: westcoastdidds
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 22, 2020, 08:50:45 am
Nooooooooooo......lunching Didd’s is a terrible idea! And with zero reason why. I definitely have an issue with that. Let’s feast on scum instead.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: chairs on June 22, 2020, 09:39:00 am
I'll be honest this game hasn't been top of mind what with Father's Day weekend and all. I'm hoping today (not Today, but actual today) I can reread and see what I can glean.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 22, 2020, 03:56:09 pm
Everybody who hasn't posted recently is going to get prodded if they don't post soon.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: mail-mi on June 22, 2020, 04:00:48 pm
Everybody who hasn't posted recently is going to get prodded if they don't post soon.

That's mean.

I'm fine with wcd. I think the best is vote: Galz though, their little interaction at the beginning with MiX reeks of scum partnership.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Awaclus on June 22, 2020, 05:50:55 pm
Sorry! I have been so busy working on my band's music which doesn't really sound like acid jazz that I haven't been able to post much lately.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 22, 2020, 06:49:02 pm
If I had a dollar for everyone who hadn't posted much, I'd  be.... slightly richer than I am right now
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 22, 2020, 06:51:07 pm
Everybody who hasn't posted recently is going to get prodded if they don't post soon.

That's mean.

I'm fine with wcd. I think the best is vote: Galz though, their little interaction at the beginning with MiX reeks of scum partnership.
Seems a minor bit better than the Didds/chairs votes
Vote: Galz

# wagons # information # i know I'm putting spaces before the hashtags
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 22, 2020, 07:28:23 pm
The threat of ruin rousing everyone from their stupor!

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 22, 2020, 09:07:32 pm
This post will betray my biases, but what do people think of scolapasta?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 22, 2020, 09:33:04 pm
Well, his votes yesterday aren't terribly compelling but we know he was life-busy. So, let's pierce the skin and see how it goes....

vote: scolapasta
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 22, 2020, 11:18:36 pm
Alas, still life busy - though differently. After busy work, took this week off and am organizing apartment. Should fine some time, however.

To a certain degree, yeah my posts have been fluff. But I don't think I'm the only one.

I'm ok with a

vote: galz

And this time I checked the VC - L-2.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: chairs on June 23, 2020, 08:36:53 am
Vote: galzria

The majority of my earlier switch was to try to spur activity. It looks as thought that objective failed a bit, but not entirely, and I'm still pro Galz lynch.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 23, 2020, 08:47:50 am
Ah, so Galz is at L-1?

Are we ready for the day to be over? Any chance he’s a mason? I’m not opposed to hammering him, but I don’t want it be come too soon if we aren’t done.

An auditor would know he hasn’t checked in for awhile.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 23, 2020, 08:51:01 am

To a certain degree, yeah my posts have been fluff. But I don't think I'm the only one.


With patience and hard work, you too can own a fluffy reputation! :) The good news is that if it’s authentic to who you are, folks will begin to find it typical rather than scummy.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 23, 2020, 10:07:57 am
Maybe we should let Galz claim? He could kneel before us and beg not to die
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 23, 2020, 10:08:48 am
Suddenly from nowhere we have a flurry of activity, and all against Galz. Interesting but is it optimal?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 23, 2020, 10:09:07 am
I think I need time to chew this over
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: mail-mi on June 23, 2020, 10:12:01 am
Ah, so Galz is at L-1?

Are we ready for the day to be over? Any chance he’s a mason? I’m not opposed to hammering him, but I don’t want it be come too soon if we aren’t done.

An auditor would know he hasn’t checked in for awhile.

We should at least let him claim first.

Suddenly from nowhere we have a flurry of activity, and all against Galz. Interesting but is it optimal?

I mean, if he's mafia, he doesn't have any partners to defend him right now, so I think it's NAI.

I think I need time to chew this over

I hope your consumption is delicious.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 23, 2020, 11:10:42 am
EFHW, any thoughts on Galz?

Shoot, with 5/8 to eliminate, we need quite a bit of consensus
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 23, 2020, 11:18:32 am
I need to reread him.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 23, 2020, 11:19:36 am
Now I"m going to get another warning  >:(

I need more of an exhibition of his play, so I will reread him.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 23, 2020, 11:23:28 am
Now I"m going to get another warning  >:(

I need more of an exhibition of his play, so I will reread him.

Right? I’m a rule-follower so I hate when I forget. Kind of like seasonal allergies....just something to have to deal with.
 
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: mail-mi on June 23, 2020, 11:32:22 am
Who else is in this game? I think I'm gonna make an execution bin.

1. Joseph2302
3. WestCoastDidds
4. mail-mi
5. Galzria
6. scolapasta
8. Awaclus
10. EFHW
11. chairs

Want to execute: Galzria
Willing to execute: WCD, EFHW, maybe scola?
Would vote if necessary, but I think they're probably town: Joseph, chairs, Awaclus,
Town: me

There's 3 more scum out there, and 2 masons (probably) and then 3 VTs. Yeah, pretty happy with these execution bins.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: EFHW on June 23, 2020, 11:40:52 am
Scumslip by MiX (if he had been town he wouldn't have known for sure he wasn't a mason) -- what would have been dark innuendo Yesterday (by me) now shines brightly in the light of his flip. Not superhelpful, but interesting.

фnd if Masons claim it can undermine scum's plans.

Also maybe one mason should claim, so scum will WIFOM each other into killing them or not killing them. Sounds amazing.

I'm a Mason.

Well this sounds correct. I'm not a mason given we just had this conversation now and not at night.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 23, 2020, 12:11:09 pm
Apologies - between the busy weekend (with Father's Day) and the overall, shall we say "flavor" of this game, I kinda lost it there. Getting back into it.

For so many reasons, the votes against me (well, the case being made anyway) is really, really bad.

The case is that I am partners with MiX, and that we staged the whole D1 thing.

As I've already pointed out, this is why it doesn't work:

A) With a 2-Man scum team, this is just bad tactics D1. It draws far too much attention to both players.
B) In a Multi-ball setup, it's basically begging the opposing team to shoot us at Night. It's bad, dumb scum play. Like, really bad.

And while I hadn't mentioned it before (because I hadn't really thought of it before), in conjunction with B) above - Assume that MiX and I were scum together, and we decided to stage this big ol' thing D1 just to push for a random player (in this case, Swan) to get lynched. We've now set ourselves up for the opposing faction to go "Well, yeah, let's shoot between MiX/Galz" ... Why on earth would we EVER choose to shoot LaLight, the claimed Mason, instead of trying to find/hit/shoot one of the other scum team?

Team A: {MiX, ??} -> Shoots LaLight
Team B: {??, ??} -> Shoots MiX

The LaLight kill was already a bad choice for MiX's team. But the only way it really makes sense is if his team thought that Team B would shoot me first instead of MiX. And that doesn't work if MiX and I are scum together.

The whole argument is just bad - because it's suggesting that essentially from the get go... MiX and I have been playing to lose at every point in time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 23, 2020, 12:17:50 pm
A dead MiX is always a good thing in Mafia, as far as I'm concerned, but then he and I don't have much chemistry.

Too bad we didn't see scum pop each other, but this is still a decent N1 result for us, better than two dead masons at least.

I'm going to try to get time to reread D1 but I have a note I left myself about Galz being kinda scummy, so until I have time to digest how this new info changes things I think I'll vote: Galzria

If you want MiX's partner, this post reeks of it.

If you want the OTHER scum team, I would start with Didds or Awaclus (though definitely not both - and I lean towards Awaclus).

-----

Look, I'm not trying to strike a super sympathetic case here. I'm not going to claim, as that would be anti-town - and like I stated before, I'm happy having gotten MiX killed N1. Y'all are welcome for that. But the argument being suggested as to MiX and I being scum together is just plain lazy and bad - and you should all feel bad. In any world where I actually WAS scum, I would be scum with the other team, not MiX. However, I'm town, so /shrug
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 23, 2020, 01:08:00 pm
Team A: {MiX, ??} -> Shoots LaLight
Team B: {??, ??} -> Shoots MiX

The LaLight kill was already a bad choice for MiX's team. But the only way it really makes sense is if his team thought that Team B would shoot me first instead of MiX. And that doesn't work if MiX and I are scum together.

I don't understand this part. Could you elaborate?

Though having galz at L-1 makes me restless.

unvote

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 23, 2020, 01:18:39 pm
Team A: {MiX, ??} -> Shoots LaLight
Team B: {??, ??} -> Shoots MiX

The LaLight kill was already a bad choice for MiX's team. But the only way it really makes sense is if his team thought that Team B would shoot me first instead of MiX. And that doesn't work if MiX and I are scum together.

I don't understand this part. Could you elaborate?

Though having galz at L-1 makes me restless.

unvote

The first part:

It's clear MiX's team didn't kill MiX. So MiX's team killed LaLight, and the other team killed MiX.

If I were MiX's partner, and the two of us went "Well, one of is for sure getting shot tonight by the other team" (Which, I think, even without being scum-mates was a reasonable assumption in general - as so many people are buying into the {MiX, Galz} theory), then there is absolutely no real way we would've chosen to shoot a claimed Mason instead of trying to find/shoot one of the other scum team.

Given that we know MiX's team shot LaLight (which I would argue was a mistake), I think the only realistic reason for them to make that choice is that they assumed I would get shot instead of MiX. In a world where I'm shot by the other Team instead of MiX, then there is some amount of sense in them shooting a claimed Mason here instead of trying to find/shoot the other scum team.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 23, 2020, 04:08:09 pm
I know it's hunting season (scum-hunting, that is) but why would the scumteam!Galz/MiX assume one of them would be identified as scum by the other scum team? Maybe MiX was killed for being towny, like LL was. I'm not sure if I agree with Galz that the correct strategy for scum here is to try to catch the other team. Town is trying to do that already, and they definitely won't be killing the IC. A confident scumteam might hope to catch the other scum with nixings while avoiding getting nixed themselves.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 23, 2020, 04:15:39 pm
Now that we are out of the zone of relaxation, it is time to get back to our despair.  I will tease you with a thought experiment: consider a stadium, like from medieval times.  There is an absolute uncertainty in what kind of aid you will receive.  I am sure that this will help you solve the mystery of who is scum and who is not.

Vote Count 2.3

WestCoastDidds (1): Awaclus
scolapasta (2): EFHW, WestCoastDidds
Galzria (3): mail-mi, Joseph2302, chairs
Not Voting (2): Galzria, scolapasta

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 will end Friday, June 26 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 23, 2020, 04:17:39 pm
I don't think that scum!Galz is MiX's partner by default, though. His D1 play would work better as him vs. unsuspecting target. No need to have two people pretending when one is good enough. The target, MiX, will either seem scummy and get nixed or nk'd, or seem towny and get nk'd. Town!Galz could also do his "deal" as a way to perk up the game and scumhunt by looking for reactions.

I do not buy any "I wouldn't do this as scum" arguments. I really dislike them, and they are often wrong. I don't like how Galz cheerfully got Swowl nixed. I need to think about this some more.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 23, 2020, 04:59:36 pm
I agree that Galz and Mix aren't likely not the same team, but I don't know why any of the arguments that he's made mean that he's not on the other non-town team. And if he had a pretty good scum read on MiX, whacking him at night makes a ton of sense because MiX is wily and would have held Galz's feet to the fire for leading Swowl to his doom. Into the belly of the beast, as it were. 

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: chairs on June 24, 2020, 12:10:12 pm
As the baseball great Babe Ruth once said, "Can we lynch scum already?"

I do think Galz is scum. I don't think Galz is MiX's partner. If y'all want to hunt up MiX's partner I'm down to give that a shot, I'm home sick today so I should be able to make the time for a reread.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2020, 01:46:54 pm
As the baseball great Babe Ruth once said, "Can we lynch scum already?"

I do think Galz is scum. I don't think Galz is MiX's partner. If y'all want to hunt up MiX's partner I'm down to give that a shot, I'm home sick today so I should be able to make the time for a reread.

MiX's partner is obviously EFHW because she's always scum.

More seriously, yes I think a reread would be a good producer of results.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 24, 2020, 05:40:27 pm
 While there is no legislation requiring me to state an opinion, I will share that I still prefer scolapasta over Galz.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Awaclus on June 24, 2020, 06:19:27 pm
I'm fine with Galz being lynched, but for the time being, I don't have enough of an incentive to stop voting for WCD.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 24, 2020, 06:40:27 pm
I'm fine with Galz being lynched, but for the time being, I don't have enough of an incentive to stop voting for WCD.

Oof! I was hoping the fact that I’m town would suffice, but no? Perhaps evaluate again?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 24, 2020, 06:45:27 pm
Having trouble to articulate anything from this game. Mostly because nothing is occuring that is noteworthy
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 24, 2020, 06:46:32 pm
And this distinct lack of action is having an effect of my motivation and ability to discern anything

Galz seems like a randomised lynch opportunity
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 24, 2020, 07:28:40 pm
I agree, the game is faltering. But I am too tired today to adventure deeper into the wilds of mafia. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2020, 11:04:54 pm
ok, so the beginning of the day is like I don't know english at all. hell.

Anyway, in this game I will try to keep my honor and vote only for scum. For example vote: MiX

Rereading. LaLight called it! He found the harm causing scum.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: mail-mi on June 24, 2020, 11:12:53 pm
I've made it partway through D1, and Galz just seems off. I think I agree with his argument that he's not MiX's partner, but I still like my nomination for him as our target of exile (otherwise known as a vote).
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 25, 2020, 08:24:53 am
Alright friends, the deadline is tomorrow.

My rereads have yielded nothing terrible insightful, but I’m still feeling positive about the scum death...even if it just slightly makes the odds slant in our favor.

My most suspicious folks right now are Scola, Galz, and EFHW. Galz is at L-2. I’ll move there if that is the most likely exile. I think there is a good chance he is other-scum.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: EFHW on June 25, 2020, 09:00:58 am
We don't have time to brainstorm, it's true. I find Galz's silence interesting and feel more inclined to vote for him. He doesn't seem to be looking for scum.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 25, 2020, 12:18:00 pm
Those pushing for a scola lynch feel like a used car dealer, using their words and subtle lies to try to convince you that you're getting a good deal. But voting for me is a lemon.

I'm ok with a EFHW or Galz vote.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: mail-mi on June 25, 2020, 12:52:55 pm
Those pushing for a scola lynch feel like a used car dealer, using their words and subtle lies to try to convince you that you're getting a good deal. But voting for me is a lemon.

I'm ok with a EFHW or Galz vote.

Vote for Galz! He's the solution to the equation.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 01:09:51 pm
Guess it's time to troop out my vote.

Vote: EFHW

I'll eat a hat (seems to be the thing to do these days) if I'm wrong on her. She almost certainly knows that I'm town, and is craaaaazy hedging. Right now, my best estimation for scum teams looks like this:

{MiX, Chairs}
{EFHW, [WCD, Awaclus]}

And while my gut says I want to think Mail-Mi is scum, I think that's just because of the way he's pushing my lynch. I think it's just natural reaction on my part - I don't actually think he's scum.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 01:11:21 pm
Only time will tell if I'm right though. I was happy with my D1, happy with the result of getting MiX NK'd, and have felt pretty good overall this game. Ya'll can go ahead and lynch me, no hard feelings!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 01:13:24 pm
There was a lot of talk early in the day about me being MiX's partner though (by Chairs and WCD, but also let along by a few others) - so don't let them jockey you around by saying "Oh, I never thought THAT".
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 25, 2020, 01:15:14 pm
I'm going to go with

vote: EFHW

for now. If we get this correct, I expect everyone to remunerate me for this brilliance.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 01:25:28 pm
Also, I feel like I get lynched as town a lot ... and yet I constantly see arguments that "Galz feels off" ... I want to argue that people just clearly don't know how to read me because... it keeps happening - except then I went back and looked and I haven't actually been mislynched as town all that often recently. I had a string of games shortly after M100 where I was lynched/NK'd N1 (took 5 games after M100 to even reach D2, and I was lynched D2 lol), but it hasn't been bad since then. So... so much for that.

A wise scholar once said that if you're lynching Galz, he's not scum. That still holds generally true. I'm pretty certain that I've only ever been lynched as scum when I was non-traditional scum (Although over 8 years of playing Mafia on this site... I might have forgotten a game). Traitor, SK, Third-Party. Well, lynch me here and that streak will continue. :P

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 01:36:36 pm
I'm going to go with

vote: EFHW

for now. If we get this correct, I expect everyone to remunerate me for this brilliance.

Your reception will be unparalleled.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 25, 2020, 02:04:59 pm
I'm going to warn you folk: the deadline is coming.  Pray that you are able to find the people looking for prey, and your prayer for the preyer may be answered.  To inspire you, have the assumption that the popular clique is negative.

Vote Count 2.4

WestCoastDidds (1): Awaclus
scolapasta (2): EFHW, WestCoastDidds
Galzria (3): mail-mi, Joseph2302, chairs
EFHW (2): Galzria, scolapasta

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 will end Friday, June 26 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 02:14:15 pm
I'm going to warn you folk: the deadline is coming.  Pray that you are able to find the people looking for prey, and your prayer for the preyer may be answered.  To inspire you, have the assumption that the popular clique is negative.

Vote Count 2.4

WestCoastDidds (1): Awaclus
scolapasta (2): EFHW, WestCoastDidds
Galzria (3): mail-mi, Joseph2302, chairs
EFHW (2): Galzria, scolapasta

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 2 will end Friday, June 26 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.


I mean, if I were to pray to the MOD god, this all but confirms me as town. I am the "popular clique" with 3 votes. MOD just confirmed that lynching me hoping to find scum would come back negative. I now claim MIC status.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 02:23:05 pm
Now that Sudgy has given me such a great MIC introduction...

Mail-Mi & Joseph - I think that you're both town. Are you both set on lynching me and not looking elsewhere? Getting another lynch through without you will be rather difficult. Take EFHW for example: Without your votes, I would need Awaclus, Didds & Chairs to move over. As I think EFHW is scum that isn't aligned with MiX, that means one of her partners would have to bus her (5 to lynch, not voting EFHW would be you two and EFHW herself). I don't see any reason for them to do that.

We could go Scola - but I'm strongly leaning town on them right now. Like, really strongly. Chairs is a possibility. I think he's MiX's partner, so the other scum team might be willing to help make that happen. Although maybe they would prefer MiX's partner to live through the day in the hope that they get an extra town NK out of it?

I don't know. I just don't feel like getting a scum lynch through is super likely unless one of you are willing to help it go through.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 25, 2020, 02:26:54 pm
Assumptions can be wrong though.

I mean mod confirming IC seems very off brand.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 02:29:36 pm
Assumptions can be wrong though.

I mean mod confirming IC seems very off brand.

Haha - it's just a routine we have here - a meme if you will. MiX used to claim himself IC based on faulty or incomplete logic (sometimes using logic that only applied to knowledge he himself had). The first time he did it, he got himself lynched for it. Now the term MIC, or MiX-IC stands for a claim to be an IC that isn't really an IC at all.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 02:30:56 pm
Assumptions can be wrong though.

I mean mod confirming IC seems very off brand.

Haha - it's just a routine we have here - a meme if you will. MiX used to claim himself IC based on faulty or incomplete logic (sometimes using logic that only applied to knowledge he himself had). The first time he did it, he got himself lynched for it. Now the term MIC, or MiX-IC stands for a claim to be an IC that isn't really an IC at all.

In this case, I'm using the term to park the moniker IC next to my name based on Mod confirmation that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 02:32:14 pm
Assumptions can be wrong though.

I mean mod confirming IC seems very off brand.

Is my assumption that you're town wrong? Because I'll be honest, I weigh that pretty heavily in my reads right now lol.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Awaclus on June 25, 2020, 02:48:05 pm
As deadline is approaching, I'm increasingly fine with Galzria going extinct.

Vote: Galzria L-1
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: scolapasta on June 25, 2020, 02:53:38 pm
As deadline is approaching, I'm increasingly fine with Galzria going extinct.

Vote: Galzria L-1

Yes, I'm inclined to no longer believe his fiction.

(I think his strong town "read" of me, while correct, was meant to discourage my vote.

We can save EFHW for tomorrow's exile.

Vote: Galzria
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 02:58:49 pm
Well, I am in fact town. And I'm feeling really pretty comfortable with my reads.

Econobox.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:00:27 pm
I have no spite towards Scola for that hammer. I could be wrong, but am still inclined to believe otherwise. I think my wagon is Town:Town:Scum:Scum(maybe):Town, in that order.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:10:26 pm
I do apologize for the limited time I've had this game day though. Using my words list combined with Father's Day weekend made it a little bit harder to get in to.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:12:38 pm
The general case on me wasn't great - but whatcha gonna do?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:17:36 pm
I'm excited though because I leave for Tahoe tonight (gonna be gone 3 days), and not having this going will be one less distraction keeping me from enjoying my time off. So that's nice.

Chairs, you should shoot EFHW tonight. That girl is scum. Even's up the playing field for you.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:18:38 pm
My new creed will be to get in as many posts as I can before thread lock. Gotta get through those words!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:21:18 pm
Didds, wanna confess to being scum? Such poison can only rot the soul! Be free of evil, come, see the light!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:22:12 pm
I'm sad that nobody is around to banter with. Would definitely increase the pleasure of going through my list.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:24:05 pm
Maybe scum is scared to engage here - they don't want to react knowing that I'm about to flip town. That's too bad. I hate to discourage them like that. Ah well.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:25:04 pm
Oh, I guess since I'm lynched now I can claim. Not that my job will come as a surprise to anybody at this point: I'm VT. No Doctor, no Mason.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:26:13 pm
Oh, I guess since I'm lynched now I can claim. Not that my job will come as a surprise to anybody at this point: I'm VT. No Doctor, no Mason.

I thought about claiming Doctor. But I don't know how certain people in this crowd would react. If I was playing with a group that I knew better I might've done it. Hope to avoid the lynch, direct it to a scum read and draw a NK. But it was too dangerous. Had the real Doctor counter claimed me that would've been bad.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 25, 2020, 03:27:55 pm
THREAD LOCKED
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: Galzria on June 25, 2020, 03:28:06 pm
At SOME point we'll need to lynch scum though. Even if they shoot each other down to just 1 left alive... we can't survive on this green vegetarian diet of all town forever. Eventually we'll need some red meat!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 25, 2020, 03:36:25 pm
On the subway lay a lone peasant.  He could only dream of things like wine.  As he went around the complete sequence again, he thought about how strict the government was.  There was nothing to spare for the poor!  He went on a venture and made a loud roar to the legislature.  There had to be a revolution.

Well, they didn't like him for it.

Final Day 2 Vote Count

scolapasta (2): EFHW, WestCoastDidds
Galzria (5): mail-mi, Joseph2302, chairs, Awaclus, scolapasta
EFHW (1): Galzria

With 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

Galzria has been lynched!  He was Revolution, the Vanilla Townie.

NIGHT 2 START

Night 2 will end Saturday, June 27 at 3:30 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: sudgy on June 27, 2020, 03:24:12 pm
There was no grudge.  It started as a date, and the power of love between them grew.  It was not just a morsel, dear reader.  However, there was a campaign involving a policeman of considerable size, and the coup ended up with one of them in the oven, and their engagement was no more.

Awaclus has been killed!  He was Engagement, the Town Mason.

Mod note: The flavor has nothing to do with whether or not there is another mason, it was all just a play on Awaclus being Engagement.

DAY 3 START

Vote Count 3.1

Not Voting (6): Joseph2302, WestCoastDidds, mail-mi, scolapasta, EFHW, chairs

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 3 will end Saturday, July 4 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: mail-mi on June 27, 2020, 03:34:23 pm
Looks like the scum kills crossed streams, what luck! Certainly relieves me of some stress.

vote: chairs following the leadership of our dear departed Galz.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: chairs on June 27, 2020, 04:21:02 pm
vote: EFHW because hoi chummers that there's a scummer.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: chairs on June 27, 2020, 04:22:06 pm
Also, as always, you can depend on me to forget my word list exists.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 27, 2020, 04:52:36 pm
Aw...poor Awaclus! Does just one kill mean that he was double targeted?

I am down for vote: EFHW

Moving on through that word allocation!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 27, 2020, 05:38:22 pm
Wait, what? I know I have completely forgotten how to be town. Even on lynchpool, I am scum more often than not. But this time I am finally town. Don't let my rustiness interfere with town's advance to victory!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: scolapasta on June 27, 2020, 05:46:17 pm
My general philosophy is that when someone protests too much, they are scum.

vote: EFHW

So we have 3 town left, and 3 scum (1 and 2).

Maybe a mason left, unless they were killed before LaLight.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 27, 2020, 06:32:24 pm
Cutting remark (not really, but I had to work the word in). vote: scolapasta

This is just going to happen for awhile until I get my groove back.  :(
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 27, 2020, 06:34:10 pm
vote: EFHW because hoi chummers that there's a scummer.

There isn't much here for me to respond to. Care to elaborate? Not a whole biography, just maybe a summary of my scumminess?

I would vote chairs as well.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 27, 2020, 07:09:57 pm
vote: EFHW because hoi chummers that there's a scummer.

A summary of my scumminess?

Result: a scummary.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 28, 2020, 02:49:07 pm
Hmmm....

I do not like that sneaky scola E-1

Vote: scola
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 28, 2020, 02:49:41 pm
Dang it! Genuine regret at forgetting my word, Sudgy
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 28, 2020, 03:25:39 pm
Maybe I should have applied more effort to this game
But re reading, I dunno what is happening
Because there is an extraordinary amount of confusion caused by malaligment of words
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: scolapasta on June 28, 2020, 04:28:32 pm
Hmmm....

I do not like that sneaky scola E-1

Vote: scola

One day, people will just realize that I'm just bad at this game and forgetting to check vote counts. Clearly I need more practice, like fitness training, but for mafia.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: scolapasta on June 28, 2020, 04:30:48 pm
Knowing know that it was E-1*, I am happy with my vote.

* no longer, as it is back to 2, which I am now also at.

Since we know there are two scum on one team left, I think then it's time to announce (with distinct pleasure, in fact), that I am the remaining Mason.

So those voting for me, should unvote, asap.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: Joseph2302 on June 28, 2020, 05:37:43 pm
Knowing know that it was E-1*, I am happy with my vote.

* no longer, as it is back to 2, which I am now also at.

Since we know there are two scum on one team left, I think then it's time to announce (with distinct pleasure, in fact), that I am the remaining Mason.

So those voting for me, should unvote, asap.
Interesting, but also an easy fake claim if you're scum. Like claiming you have flu in winter

 I'll need to reread
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 28, 2020, 06:16:37 pm
Knowing know that it was E-1*, I am happy with my vote.

* no longer, as it is back to 2, which I am now also at.

Since we know there are two scum on one team left, I think then it's time to announce (with distinct pleasure, in fact), that I am the remaining Mason.

So those voting for me, should unvote, asap.
Anything to confirm this? Breadcrumbs?

unvote
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 28, 2020, 06:18:29 pm
I'm going to get a 3rd warning,  /growl. This isn't a recording studio, things don't have to be perfect!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 28, 2020, 06:23:37 pm
Does anyone know a retailer for frying pans? (Yes, that's game related.)

I signed in today thinking we had been in night this weekend!  I'm on my phone, so it's hard to check, but assuming scola has some kind of support for his claim, I will vote for someone proddable.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 28, 2020, 06:32:50 pm
Maybe they went to a gala affair or something,  but mail-mi and chairs are both proddable.

prod mail-mi and chairs

They are probably both scum. vote: mail-mi,  since he's voting for chairs without any explanation and hasn't shown up since the first post. Chairs is voting for me without any explanation,  so he's also on my shortlist.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: mail-mi on June 28, 2020, 06:44:56 pm
Maybe they went to a gala affair or something,  but mail-mi and chairs are both proddable.

prod mail-mi and chairs

They are probably both scum. vote: mail-mi,  since he's voting for chairs without any explanation and hasn't shown up since the first post. Chairs is voting for me without any explanation,  so he's also on my shortlist.

Not scum, just had a busy weekend. Will be back with a more attractive presence tomorrow for some work on this game
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: mail-mi on June 28, 2020, 06:45:37 pm
Also, I had an explanation, and it wasn't a joke: sheeping Galz.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 28, 2020, 08:13:49 pm
Scola, anything that you had in storage to back up this claim?

But assuming you do...or that no one counters you, I'll go back to vote: EFHW. That's E-1, I think

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: sudgy on June 28, 2020, 09:18:23 pm
prod mail-mi and chairs

Prod sent to chairs.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 28, 2020, 09:23:13 pm
We need to confront the truth - there are 6 players and 3 are scum. Assuming scola isn't counterclaimed, from my perspective only one out of the remaining 4 players is town.

Didds, is there a reason behind your vote or are you just playing the odds?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: sudgy on June 28, 2020, 09:30:38 pm
The absence of many of the town was concerning.  To begin with, the bike of the ghostwriter was gone a dozen days ago, along with their thesis.  The stadium was almost empty at this point.  The clothier's collar was messed up and they started making a pillow instead of a dress.  With so much evil among them, how could they fund their survival?

Vote Count 3.2

chairs (1): mail-mi
EFHW (3): chairs, scolapasta, WestCoastDidds
mail-mi (1): EFHW
Not Voting (1): Joseph2302

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 3 will end Saturday, July 4 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: mail-mi on June 28, 2020, 11:02:11 pm
We need to confront the truth - there are 6 players and 3 are scum. Assuming scola isn't counterclaimed, from my perspective only one out of the remaining 4 players is town.

Didds, is there a reason behind your vote or are you just playing the odds?

Hold on.

6 players, 1 mafia, 2 ww, 3 town. If we exile mafia, the townies die, WW win. So even if we think we've found MiX's partner, we shouldn't exile them.

Also scola isn't MiX's partner because that's almost suicide for a single scum player. So if scola is counterclaimed, we should def. Exile him.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: chairs on June 28, 2020, 11:09:04 pm
Sorry, I know I've been low post count. I honestly thought the word restriction would be fun but because I don't have the time nor infrastructure to do much but phone post, it's just ended up draining my enthusiasm. I agree with mail-mi, which is why I'm voting for EFHW who I think isn't a good MiX partner candidate. Obviously if we have a scola counterclaim we should roll with exiling scola.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: scolapasta on June 28, 2020, 11:29:39 pm
If I'm telling the truth (I am) doesn't thsi logic invite scum to now counter claim?

We're in a bad state no matte what - with only a fraction of town left.

And maybe claiming was a bad idea. But I really didn't know when to do it. And was worried that scum might vote and hammer two. Which leads me to suspect both EFHW and Didds, and happy with my EFHW vote.

No real breadcrumbs - I was VT D1, then switched when lalight was exiled. The only thin I have is that I did switch my (sadly, incorrect) vote, following Awaclus, since I knew I could trust he was town. I don't think scumapasta would've done that. (i.e. would not have known that awaclus was mason, nor woud've hammered there)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 29, 2020, 08:41:30 am
vote: chairs. Fragrant excuse.  I'm phone posting.  It's no big deal to check my word list when posting.  mail-mi makes a good point about casting out the right kind of scum. Townpoints?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 29, 2020, 08:49:59 am
@scolapasta,  if you are town, then this was the exact right time to claim. Not earthquake level news, maybe, but important nonetheless.

I disagree that scum would counterclaim.  Like you said, they're doing well. So no need to take risks.

Would scum quickhammer? I don't think so. They aren't in danger and don't have a guaranteed win at the same time that POE is so tight that any scummy behavior can tip the balance towards their being cast out tomorrow.

If you are lying,  town should absolutely counterclaim.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 29, 2020, 08:52:43 am
So are you newbie or trying to preempt a scum counterclaim.  My stomach hates being so suspicious!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: scolapasta on June 29, 2020, 11:28:51 am
My thought is they might quickhammer pre my claim. And I think there was enough suspicion around me that they could have sold it to the hungry masses, feed their hunger for an exile.

Which I why maybe it could have been better to wait for E-1? Get one more scummy person on my wagon?

What happens if game gets down to 1 scum of each team left standing?

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 29, 2020, 12:53:47 pm
We need to confront the truth - there are 6 players and 3 are scum. Assuming scola isn't counterclaimed, from my perspective only one out of the remaining 4 players is town.

Didds, is there a reason behind your vote or are you just playing the odds?

Playing the odds. And well, you are always scum. Everyone knows this. :)

My guesses that the townfolk are scola (if no one c/claims him), me, and either yams or Joseph.

So, my baddies are EFHW, chairs, and yams or Joseph

The lid isn't on, though. Chairs is an equally suitable target, I think, but I was following scola's lead.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 29, 2020, 12:55:30 pm
My thought is they might quickhammer pre my claim. And I think there was enough suspicion around me that they could have sold it to the hungry masses, feed their hunger for an exile.

Which I why maybe it could have been better to wait for E-1? Get one more scummy person on my wagon?

What happens if game gets down to 1 scum of each team left standing?

Good question. My guess is that they both win, but the more seasoned folks will know better than I.

Oh, look...a mouse!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 29, 2020, 01:36:55 pm
Since they would both have the ability to kill, the game would continue. Endgames only happen when one scum team controls both voting and nks, and here they would control neither. (I used my word. Which one do you think it was?)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 29, 2020, 01:38:52 pm
Since they would both have the ability to kill, the game would continue. Endgames only happen when one scum team controls both voting and nks, and here they would control neither. (I used my word. Which one do you think it was?)

Sorry, I misread the question and was imagining some town still alive. Since they would shoot each other to death at night, I guess it's either a tie or no one wins.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: mail-mi on June 29, 2020, 02:28:54 pm
Hm.

I think chairs is more likely MiX's partner than EFHW is, though I think I'd be good with shooting either with a laser. Probably joseph or WCD is the other townie than me.

Consider this an intent to hammer EFHW
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: chairs on June 29, 2020, 09:42:19 pm
Okay so, I've been reviewing the current situation and here's where we do the Weird Thing, where I use my power to put one team on the throne or the other.

I am going to confirm I am MiX's partner.

Town: If you lynch me, Team Werewolf wins.

Wolves: If you don't NK me (assuming EFHW is your partner) and I manage to not shoot you, we can tie this game tomorrow by no lynching and shooting town.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 29, 2020, 10:44:20 pm
unvote for now. Do you realize that you risked losing outright by being quicknixed? I guess you assumed I was a werewolf, which I am not.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: EFHW on June 29, 2020, 11:38:20 pm
I'm hopeless. My post had steam worked in great and then I edited it and deleted it. Sorry town. My next mistake I get modkilled. But don't steam me, we'll lose even faster that way!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on June 30, 2020, 11:02:22 am
Chairs, huh? Interesting.

So, town can only win if we take out a wolf?

I think exiling EFHW still makes the most sense since she is my biggest WW read, by several orders of magnitude.

Joseph, yams.... interested in that hammer or is there a better route?

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: mail-mi on June 30, 2020, 11:11:01 am
what is it with claiming mafia in games nowadays? back in my day, the mafia stayed hidden and the officer of the game found them out!

I think our best bet is going to be EFHW, though WCD is next on my list. vote: EFHW
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D3)
Post by: sudgy on June 30, 2020, 11:17:04 am
THREAD LOCKED
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on June 30, 2020, 11:25:52 am
Everyone knew what the headline would say, although it was not with satisfaction.  This dump seemed very unlawful; this choke was a tragedy.  It would correspond with the death of the popular, or the strength of a comment.

Final Day 3 Vote Count

EFHW (4): chairs, scolapasta, WestCoastDidds, mail-mi
Not Voting (2): Joseph2302, EFHW

Wth 6 alive, it took 4 to lynch.

EFHW has been lynched!  See was Mainstream, the Vanilla Townie.

NIGHT 3 START

Night 3 will end Thursday, July 2 at 11:30 AM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: sudgy on July 02, 2020, 11:28:43 am
At this site, when they decided to dictate the dead, the town was suddenly aloof.  They didn't even have to extort any of the baddies, on both opposite sides!  One of them got his tongue stuck on the ice, and then he couldn't eat his pudding and died.  Nobody even pointed a finger at him.  The other one had claimed to be an excavator, but his digging was barely visible.  It was quite shallow.

chairs has been killed!  He was Tongue, the Mafia Goon.

mail-mi has been killed!  He was Excavation, the Werewolf.

DAY 4 START

Vote Count 4.1

Not Voting (3): Joseph2302, WestCoastDidds, scolapasta

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Day 4 will end Thursday, July 9 at 11:30 AM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 02, 2020, 12:07:45 pm
Holy guacamole! A baddie blood bath!

I can’t believe I was so wrong about EFHW. Many apologies! (Oh! Almost forgot my word....good thing we’re flexible)

It has to be vote: Joseph then. I had he and yams in the same grouping of people, but hadn’t really guessed they were partners (I thought it was either of them with EFHW).

If this is an epic Scola fake claim, good game dude. You win.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: scolapasta on July 02, 2020, 12:15:58 pm
Well, this is going to be interesting. Didds will vote for Joseph (check), Joseph will vote for Didds (pending), and I get to decide.

Unless the real mason shows up.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 02, 2020, 12:38:18 pm
Yep. And I know, it’s the worst! I am terrible in the position. And it’s usually with LaLight who is freaking amazing.

I want us to win so I hope you make the choice infused with grace.

The best argument I can make is the aloofness of Joseph’s play. Hanging around, but just barely. The opposite of scum hunting. I’m choosing to trust you so I did a cursory reread, and there’s not much there. Which is only scummy in its absence of scumminess...just below the radar.

Anyway, this is all you. Godspeed!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 02, 2020, 06:50:46 pm
Vote: Didds

I believe the scola performance this game
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 02, 2020, 06:53:35 pm
Yep. And I know, it’s the worst! I am terrible in the position. And it’s usually with LaLight who is freaking amazing.

I want us to win so I hope you make the choice infused with grace.

The best argument I can make is the aloofness of Joseph’s play. Hanging around, but just barely. The opposite of scum hunting. I’m choosing to trust you so I did a cursory reread, and there’s not much there. Which is only scummy in its absence of scumminess...just below the radar.

Anyway, this is all you. Godspeed!
The headline is somewhat true, I haven't done much
But this theme is restrictive in actually producing helpful content

Didds was third on that last mislynch, and her partner was fourth on that mislynch. That should be obvious that that was the only way that quickhammer based on bullshit mon cases happened
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 02, 2020, 06:55:07 pm
This came can stall if you want, but Didds is WW
Also the fact scola didn't straight out hammer me means they must be town
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 02, 2020, 11:22:36 pm
Scola was on the mis-X, too....because we thought EFHW was scum. Not a minor point. You weren’t off of the wagon because you thought it was bad (or at least you never articulated it as such)...you were off because you weren’t around. I’m not sure yams was a quick hammer, so much as just a hammer. Since you’re the other WW, so he didn’t have much choice after the chairs reveal. I think it’s far more likely you stayed off wagon, and your buddy was on than y’all risking a new wagon that might hit one of you.

I own my part in the EFHW mid-X, it wasn’t scummy, it was mistaken.

I trust Scola here, no way Joseph is town.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 03, 2020, 08:38:45 am
Scola was on the mis-X, too....because we thought EFHW was scum. Not a minor point. You weren’t off of the wagon because you thought it was bad (or at least you never articulated it as such)...you were off because you weren’t around. I’m not sure yams was a quick hammer, so much as just a hammer. Since you’re the other WW, so he didn’t have much choice after the chairs reveal. I think it’s far more likely you stayed off wagon, and your buddy was on than y’all risking a new wagon that might hit one of you.

I own my part in the EFHW mid-X, it wasn’t scummy, it was mistaken.

I trust Scola here, no way Joseph is town.
If you vote me, it'll be a trip up and we will be crucified
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: scolapasta on July 03, 2020, 05:50:32 pm
Sorry for the silence; really I'll need to do a reread and get into the meat of this thread to figure out which of you is scum.

Any help along those lines would be useful. I will assume lack of posts to be scummy. So the more you post (non fluff), the more likely I'm to vote with you.

my own reread will happen over the weekend, I hope.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 04, 2020, 05:24:53 pm
Sorry for the silence; really I'll need to do a reread and get into the meat of this thread to figure out which of you is scum.

Any help along those lines would be useful. I will assume lack of posts to be scummy. So the more you post (non fluff), the more likely I'm to vote with you.

my own reread will happen over the weekend, I hope.
I don't feel like I need to revise my previous point: look at that scummy EFHW wagon, 2 partner scum hammered it at the end
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 04, 2020, 05:25:46 pm
The posting in this game has been a descent into nothingness, and I'm not willing to commit hours just to try and convince you
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 04, 2020, 05:26:51 pm
Request prod: Didds

No content has been posted by them in the last 24 hours
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: scolapasta on July 04, 2020, 05:58:55 pm
Request prod: Didds

No content has been posted by them in the last 24 hours

We haven't had any recent greeting from Didds because it's a holiday weekend here. I'm sure we'll here something by Monday.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: sudgy on July 04, 2020, 06:08:22 pm
Request prod: Didds

No content has been posted by them in the last 24 hours

As mentioned, this is a holiday weekend, and in addition I generally am more lenient on the weekends.  If there is no post by Monday, I will send the prod.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 04, 2020, 07:37:12 pm
Request prod: Didds

No content has been posted by them in the last 24 hours

As mentioned, this is a holiday weekend, and in addition I generally am more lenient on the weekends.  If there is no post by Monday, I will send the prod.
My notebook was aware that it's a bank holiday weekend
But hopefully Didds will respond to atone for their misdemeanors and murderous exiling
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 04, 2020, 07:38:14 pm
In which case, I don't feel like I owe it to the game to try and be more active when nobody else is actively pursuing this quest
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 04, 2020, 11:01:45 pm
Sorry friends! I need a necklace to remind me. It’s a holiday weekend so it’s been family fun in lockdown time.

But truthfully, I am not sure what I have to add. Joseph has played under the radar. His absence on the EFHW wagon was scummy to me. I don’t see a world where I am buddies with yams and we both get in a mis-X together, esp$ually when it could have been avoided. On the other hand, it makes perfect scum sense for the buddies to hang back and wait and see giving their team maximum maneuverability. But really,I’m don’t know that yams felt like he had a choice. Chairs revealed he was scum, scola and I (and chairs!) thought she was a WW...the two real WW were left off her wagon AND Joseph wasn’t really around. Yams had a scummy hammer and it’s not surprising that chairs killed him.

So, now Scola has to decide. Well, I guess there was a chance that scum!Joseph could have pushed a Scola exile, but gnat is a nonstarter for me.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 05, 2020, 10:58:28 pm
Alright, scola....what are you thinking, my digital friend?
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: sudgy on July 06, 2020, 04:07:41 pm
Without the laborer saying their rhetoric, the body had no meaning.  Thus, one person was remaining nonremittal in their vote.  Would they lease it to the flock, or the crowd?  The only reference in this case was the trainer.

You all better post soon before I prod you (other than WCD, at least for now).

Vote Count 4.2

Joseph2302 (1): WestCoastDidds
WestCoastDidds (1): Joseph2302
Not Voting (1): scolapasta

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Day 4 will end Thursday, July 9 at 11:30 AM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 06, 2020, 04:57:17 pm
Without the laborer saying their rhetoric, the body had no meaning.  Thus, one person was remaining nonremittal in their vote.  Would they lease it to the flock, or the crowd?  The only reference in this case was the trainer.

You all better post soon before I prod you (other than WCD, at least for now).

Vote Count 4.2

Joseph2302 (1): WestCoastDidds
WestCoastDidds (1): Joseph2302
Not Voting (1): scolapasta

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Day 4 will end Thursday, July 9 at 11:30 AM Forum Time.

This game is frozen and I hope it thaws soon

Because scola is only one who can get the game going
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: scolapasta on July 06, 2020, 05:16:58 pm
Yeah, it's on me. I took today off, so long holiday weekend still going on in my habitat. I'll post actual, real thoughts tomorrow.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 08:50:41 am
Good morning, friends! It’s only a 15 page game....I should be able to remember to do a reread to isolate evidence, but somehow it’s just a slip of the mind. I keep forgetting or can’t seem to gin up the energy.

I’ll take a look now....

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D1)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 08:55:32 am
As everybody's jaw kept yapping, and their projection growing by the gallon, they suddenly had enthusiasm for one person.  It was the economist, who said he would hold a bow while giving a bow.  "Heteronyms?  That's crossing the line!"  By his own admission, it was pretty bad.  It was too late before they realized he was wearing normal clothes.  The rest of this story has been blocked due to censorship.

Final Day 1 Vote Count

Galzria (1): Swowl
WestCoastDidds (1): Joseph2302
Swowl (6): Galzria, MiX, WestCoastDidds, chairs, Awaclus, LaLight
EFHW (1): mail-mi
Awaclus (2): scolapasta, EFHW

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

Swowl has been lynched!  He was Bow, the Vanilla Townie.

NIGHT 1 START

Night 1 will end Friday, June 19 at 1:00 PM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 09:02:09 am
Sorry about that last post. I didn’t mean for it to post. Sudgy, I know that’s my third warning. Freaking nationalism.



Having trouble to articulate anything from this game. Mostly because nothing is occuring that is noteworthy

And this distinct lack of action is having an effect of my motivation and ability to discern anything

Galz seems like a randomised lynch opportunity

On the subway lay a lone peasant.  He could only dream of things like wine.  As he went around the complete sequence again, he thought about how strict the government was.  There was nothing to spare for the poor!  He went on a venture and made a loud roar to the legislature.  There had to be a revolution.

Well, they didn't like him for it.

Final Day 2 Vote Count

scolapasta (2): EFHW, WestCoastDidds
Galzria (5): mail-mi, Joseph2302, chairs, Awaclus, scolapasta
EFHW (1): Galzria

With 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

Galzria has been lynched!  He was Revolution, the Vanilla Townie.

NIGHT 2 START

Night 2 will end Saturday, June 27 at 3:30 PM Forum Time.

Everyone knew what the headline would say, although it was not with satisfaction.  This dump seemed very unlawful; this choke was a tragedy.  It would correspond with the death of the popular, or the strength of a comment.

Final Day 3 Vote Count

EFHW (4): chairs, scolapasta, WestCoastDidds, mail-mi
Not Voting (2): Joseph2302, EFHW

Wth 6 alive, it took 4 to lynch.

EFHW has been lynched!  See was Mainstream, the Vanilla Townie.

NIGHT 3 START

Night 3 will end Thursday, July 2 at 11:30 AM Forum Time.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 09:16:36 am
I’d rather be at a resort.

Okay....the first thing I did was reread all of Joseph. This took like five minutes because he has posted so infrequently. In fact, he didn’t really get “active” until today.

Now, here is my VCA with the assumption that Joseph is the WW. If Scola is the WW we are screwed anyway.

The Swowl exile....mix and chairs are scum, Galz is town, I’m town, Awaclus and LaLight are masons and they were X-1 and the hammer. Yams and Joseph are both off wagon (along with Scola). This is smart of a yams/jospeh team because the exile went off without raising any suspicion in them. I attribute this mix-exile mostly to the masons, though.

Okay, the Galz lynch. I am off wagon on this one. I though he was town because of the Mix tussle. Yams is WW, then Joseph, scum!chairs, mason!awaclus, and Scola.

With 8 people alive, 5 to lynch is hard. I see WW Joseph follow his buddy to try to get this exile done. Notably, this was the day that Joseph complained about the level of activity. He needed more people to show if the exile was going to go off.

And the EFHW elim...I’ve already shared thoughts about that. However, the reread revealed that Joseph didn’t post AT ALL that day. As long as his buddy wasn’t in trouble, why bother?

Scola was on two mis-X
I was on two mid-X
Joseph was only on one...the one that most needed scum buy-in since three two it’s (Galz, me, EFHW) were all off.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 09:17:48 am
Not terribly compelling, I know. I’ll never win player of the year.

But in fairness, Joseph hasn’t created much content for us to work with. :/
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 07, 2020, 09:38:50 am

Scola was on two mis-X
I was on two mid-X
Joseph was only on one...the one that most needed scum buy-in since three two it’s (Galz, me, EFHW) were all off.
There's a connection with scum being on more of these mislynches

Town!me has been trying not to just jump on whatever shit wagon gets votes quickly. Sorry if not wanting to mislynch people based on nonsense is scummy to you all
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 07, 2020, 09:40:39 am
Honestly, I've not been active because of non mafia related reasons

But it seems that mafia on here is like a paradox: I post lots, and I'm scummy. I don't post as much, and I'm still scummy
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 07, 2020, 09:41:39 am
The only rational solution is I'm town, because I haven't been trying to not very subtly get mislynches all game
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: scolapasta on July 07, 2020, 04:22:25 pm
I will say, I've decided I don't like this position - each of you trying to attract my vote, and all this weight on me to decide.

But I'm doing one more pass through and so be it.

(truthfully neither of you have said much to sway me in the end; bits and pieces here)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: scolapasta on July 07, 2020, 04:23:07 pm
In the end, I want to let my gut decide, but each time I try, there is a battle between two clues pulling it opposite ways! Argh!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 05:36:02 pm
I will say, I've decided I don't like this position - each of you trying to attract my vote, and all this weight on me to decide.

But I'm doing one more pass through and so be it.

(truthfully neither of you have said much to sway me in the end; bits and pieces here)

Amen, brother! I’ve had to do it three times. Twice I got it wrong, both times to LaLight. It is not a fun position. But just think...if you hadn’t been a mason you’d be scum hunting AND defending yourself! Which is super not fun.

There should be a banner parade to help you!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D4)
Post by: scolapasta on July 07, 2020, 07:13:14 pm
OK, I'm ready to vote. I reread past days and found several clues leading me to this, though none of them are concrete.

But they feel good enough for:

Vote: joseph
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (D2)
Post by: sudgy on July 07, 2020, 08:32:55 pm
THREAD LOCKED
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: sudgy on July 07, 2020, 08:44:56 pm
Final Day 4 Vote Count

Joseph2302 (2): WestCoastDidds, scolapasta
WestCoastDidds (1): Joseph2302

With 3 alive, it took 2 to lynch.

In the arena made of timber, it was a huge mess.  Everything was broken, due to the awful decisions suggested by the adviser.  My recommendation was to not welcome anyone to see the grimace, but this time there was a record meat import.  Three people remained - wait, two people?  They both decided to strike down the arena instead of each other.

Joseph2302 has been lynched!  He was Arena, the Vanilla Townie.

Startled, scolapasta looked at WestCoastDidds, whose skin started taking on a metamorphosis, growing fur.  "I take offense to that!" scolapasta yelled, but it was too late.

Scolapasta has been endgamed!  He was Offense, the Town Mason.

The Werewolf team of mail-mi (Excavation) and WestCoastDidds (Skin) win!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: sudgy on July 07, 2020, 08:45:19 pm
Thread unlocked, obviously.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: scolapasta on July 07, 2020, 08:47:45 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(I will never trust Didds again...)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: MiX on July 07, 2020, 08:48:42 pm
Really wolves.

Really.

Fun game, there's no reason to interact as scum, there's no reason to break the deadlock as town, everything stalemates as you can't say anything simple anymore.

I'm incredibly dissapointed that wolves went for LyLo instead of guaranteed win with mafia and because town doesn't know how to scumhunt it pulled off.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(I will never trust Didds again...)

Yeah. She gets you once.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: scolapasta on July 07, 2020, 08:49:11 pm
What I meant to say, was...

Good game. Well done.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: sudgy on July 07, 2020, 08:55:31 pm
I'm incredibly dissapointed that wolves went for LyLo instead of guaranteed win with mafia and because town doesn't know how to scumhunt it pulled off.

That wouldn't work.  If wolves killed town, it would be wolf vs mafia vs town, they either lynch town, kill each other, everyone loses, or they let town kingmake.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: sudgy on July 07, 2020, 08:56:15 pm
Anyway, I'm just glad I don't need to keep watching the forums like a hawk because I didn't want to get bogged down in too many posts to go through.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: chairs on July 07, 2020, 08:57:23 pm
I'm a bit miffed they won yeah
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: chairs on July 07, 2020, 08:57:55 pm
We could have lynched town and then no killed until the cows came home.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: MiX on July 07, 2020, 08:58:57 pm
I'm incredibly dissapointed that wolves went for LyLo instead of guaranteed win with mafia and because town doesn't know how to scumhunt it pulled off.

That wouldn't work.  If wolves killed town, it would be wolf vs mafia vs town, they either lynch town, kill each other, everyone loses, or they let town kingmake.

Oh, I thought we could share the win.

We could have lynched town and then no killed until the cows came home.

Yeah that doesn't really work...
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia
Post by: sudgy on July 07, 2020, 09:02:19 pm
You win when the mafia/werewolves are the only players alive or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Thus, they would not win until the other was dead, and if they both killed each other neither would have any alive and they would both lose.  In general you call it a loss when two opposing mafia are left anyway.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: sudgy on July 07, 2020, 09:03:01 pm
Here's the speccy: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/b4xUGKUztjHvU
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: mail-mi on July 07, 2020, 10:24:02 pm
Yay good job Didds!

Sorry chairs, I knew there wasn't going to be a happily ever after scenario, so we had to go for the win.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 10:28:22 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(I will never trust Didds again...)


I’m so sorry!!!!!!

I really do know how hard it is and the freaking pressure of the lylo situation. It’s the worst.

Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 07, 2020, 10:29:59 pm
Yay good job Didds!

Sorry chairs, I knew there wasn't going to be a happily ever after scenario, so we had to go for the win.

Thank you! That was really hard. I do not like being scum, of any variety!! But I’m glad I didn’t sink our battleship.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: LaLight on July 08, 2020, 02:11:13 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(I will never trust Didds again...)


I’m so sorry!!!!!!

I really do know how hard it is and the freaking pressure of the lylo situation. It’s the worst.

now you can understand me! :)

Awesome job, Didds, i am really happy you won!

@scola, you know you could prove you're Mason, because I gave an info in Masonry that only I and couple other people in a game know? :)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 08, 2020, 06:49:37 am
0/4 in LYLO now :(
I wasn't super engaged in this game, it's a shame I didn't get NKed last night instead
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 08, 2020, 08:42:29 am
Thanks, Sudgy, for hosting. That was weird and fun.

I used 60 of my words!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 08, 2020, 08:56:40 am
Also, econobox has fallen from use? That’s funny! It was totally a thing back in the day when inexpensive, ugly Asian cars flooded the market.

That’s an unexpected generation gap!
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: scolapasta on July 08, 2020, 10:13:57 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(I will never trust Didds again...)


I’m so sorry!!!!!!

I really do know how hard it is and the freaking pressure of the lylo situation. It’s the worst.

now you can understand me! :)

Awesome job, Didds, i am really happy you won!

@scola, you know you could prove you're Mason, because I gave an info in Masonry that only I and couple other people in a game know? :)

Yes. I was hoping to draw a CC, and then prove I was the mason. But alas, scum had little reason to CC.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: scolapasta on July 08, 2020, 10:16:12 am
Thanks, Sudgy, for hosting. That was weird and fun.

I used 60 of my words!

I'm curious how many mistakes people had. I was doing so well, but got 1 warning on the last day when I was too excited that town still had a chance... (once we exiled EFHW, I thought it was all over)
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: WestCoastDidds on July 08, 2020, 10:23:49 am
I made three mistakes. Twice I forgot, and once I misspelled/misread “foster” as “faster”
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: Joseph2302 on July 08, 2020, 11:16:34 am
Thanks, Sudgy, for hosting. That was weird and fun.

I used 60 of my words!

I'm curious how many mistakes people had. I was doing so well, but got 1 warning on the last day when I was too excited that town still had a chance... (once we exiled EFHW, I thought it was all over)
I had 3, once I missed word from my list. And twice I used variations of the word e.g. instead of fly, I used flying or flies
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: Galzria on July 08, 2020, 02:47:44 pm
I called so many of the scum... 😢

Good job Mail-Mi on being the one that fooled me. And good job Didds on fooling Scola in the end.

I really enjoyed this game, and I loved the word mechanic. The posts didn’t end up being as outlandish as I thought they would be though, which made me kind of sad. But I DID enjoy trying to hide my words and make them as natural as possible so they seemingly weren’t there. I also enjoyed trying to guess at other people’s words.
Title: Re: BM31: Random Word Mafia (Game Over)
Post by: Awaclus on July 08, 2020, 06:30:38 pm
As far as I know, I didn't make any mistakes. It was a pretty fun game but I wouldn't want to go for a second round, the posting restriction makes posting a lot more high effort, and that really disincentivizes posting when you don't have anything worthy of a high-effort post to say.