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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: DooWopDJ on April 11, 2019, 12:54:10 pm

Title: Necromancing a Mining Village?
Post by: DooWopDJ on April 11, 2019, 12:54:10 pm
So with the best of my abilities I still cannot determine correct way to play if a player plays a Necromancer to play a Mining Village card from the Trash pile.

The rule question is 'Does 'Trashing" mean from anywhere in the card (so can I trash a card from the trash back to the trash?)

By "... simply doing exactly what the cards say...' it seems (a horrible assumption it seems when asking a question in the forum, but I am going to ask anyways), that a player would get "+2", because I could not find a ruling that said where Trashing could not happen from the trash, although 'Trash rules do state '... Trashing a card usually means removing it permanently from your deck...' but then again the word 'usually' is there, so thus my question to clarify if my question.
Thanks
-DooWopDJ
Title: Re: Necromancing a Mining Village?
Post by: crj on April 11, 2019, 01:00:14 pm
The rules for Mining Village itself make clear that you cannot trash a Mining Village that is already in the Trash.

Also, that you do not get the +$2 unless you trash it.
Title: Re: Necromancing a Mining Village?
Post by: GendoIkari on April 11, 2019, 02:24:03 pm
You cannot trash the card for 2 different reasons.

One is that you cannot trash a card that is in the trash; because trashing means moving to the trash.

The other is because of the Lose Track rule; Mining Village expects itself to be in play when following its instructions. So when it tries to trash itself; it can't move itself because it isn't in play where it expects.

This is commonly asked about in regards to Throne Room + Mining Village; the Intrigue rulebook specifies this:

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If you Throne Room a Mining Village, you cannot trash it twice (and so cannot get the +(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3d/Coin2.png/16px-Coin2.png) twice).
Title: Re: Necromancing a Mining Village?
Post by: Jeebus on April 14, 2019, 02:32:45 pm
Actually the rules for Necromancer also clarifies this, from the Nocturne rulebook:
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Necromancer can be used on a card that trashes itself when played; if the card checks to see if it was trashed (such as Pixie), it was not, but if the card does not check (such as Tragic Hero), it will function normally.