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Title: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: Jeebus on February 02, 2019, 01:40:12 pm
In my document I have som phrases like this:

The Action you play has to be differently named from any cards you have in play.

But I'm thinking that this is wrong, and it should be "all" instead of "any". Which option is clearer, or is there another option that is better?
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: aku_chi on February 02, 2019, 02:44:16 pm
In my document I have som phrases like this:

The Action you play has to be differently named from any cards you have in play.

This is clear and unambiguous.  Using "all" instead of "any" would probably cause me to double-take.  Alternative wording that might be clearer: "The Action you play must have a different name than any card you have in play."
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: Donald X. on February 02, 2019, 04:45:21 pm
The Action you play has to be differently named from each and every card you have in play.

The Action you play has to be differently named from any card you have in play that anyone might challenge you on.

The Action you play has to be differently named from the first card you have in play, and from each card you have in play that follows a card you have in play.

The Action you play has to have a name not included in the set of names of cards you have in play.

The Action you play has to have a name that's novel to your play area.

The Action you play can't share its name with a card you have in play.

It can't be that upon playing that Action you have two cards with its name in play.

The Action you play has to follow the rules of an Action you'd play via Imp or Conclave.
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on February 02, 2019, 05:12:57 pm
In my document I have som phrases like this:

The Action you play has to be differently named from any cards you have in play.

This is clear and unambiguous.  Using "all" instead of "any" would probably cause me to double-take.  Alternative wording that might be clearer: "The Action you play must have a different name than any card you have in play."

Arguably, "different name than any card", singular, could be taken to mean it only has to have a different name than one card. Though you'd probably only interpret it this way if English isn't your first language or you're parsing it pedantically like I am.
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: Jeebus on February 02, 2019, 08:07:11 pm
Thanks. Yeah, I've been doing too much reviewing and editing.

But what about when you add "of the"? Is "any" still better than "all"?

a card that is differently named from any of the cards in your hand.
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: Chris is me on February 02, 2019, 09:43:42 pm
Can't you just say "any and all"?
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: crj on February 03, 2019, 08:09:11 pm
I'd suggest "the action you play cannot have the same name as any card you already have in play".
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: Jeebus on February 03, 2019, 08:32:26 pm
Yeah, I see that that's a good solution. The thing is that I wanted to use "differently named", since it's a keyword with a link.

Is this too weird or confusing?

The Action you play has to be differently named from all of the cards you have in play.
"Dig for" a card that is differently named from all of the cards in your hand.

Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: BioRules on February 05, 2019, 11:43:43 am
Yeah, I see that that's a good solution. The thing is that I wanted to use "differently named", since it's a keyword with a link.

Is this too weird or confusing?

The Action you play has to be differently named from all of the cards you have in play.
"Dig for" a card that is differently named from all of the cards in your hand.


The "of the" portions may be redundant and adding extra words to those. Also I would personally change "has to" to "must". So they could probably be shortened to:
The Action you play must be differently named from all cards you have in play.
"Dig for" a card that is differently named from the cards in your hand.

On second thought for that second card, it feels like you want to be sure the player is honest when doing this, which can change the wording, by using reveal:
Reveal your hand. "Dig for" a card that is differently named from the revealed cards.
Title: Re: Best phrasing? Differently named from all/any
Post by: King Leon on February 09, 2019, 04:27:38 am
That Action’s name must be unique among the cards you have play.