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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: GendoIkari on November 07, 2018, 11:31:57 pm

Title: Wine Merchant and Pageant
Post by: GendoIkari on November 07, 2018, 11:31:57 pm
Pretty sure I know this just from the wording, but...

If you have exactly (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3d/Coin2.png/16px-Coin2.png) left at the end of your buy phase, with Pageant (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Pageant), you can both discard Wine Merchant (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Wine_Merchant) and also get a Coffer, right?
Title: Re: Wine Merchant and Pageant
Post by: Donald X. on November 07, 2018, 11:44:34 pm
Pretty sure I know this just from the wording, but...

If you have exactly (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/3/3d/Coin2.png/16px-Coin2.png) left at the end of your buy phase, with Pageant (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Pageant), you can both discard Wine Merchant (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Wine_Merchant) and also get a Coffer, right?
Yes.
Title: Re: Wine Merchant and Pageant
Post by: Jeebus on November 09, 2018, 09:52:37 am
Just remember to discard your Wine Merchants first!
Title: Re: Wine Merchant and Pageant
Post by: GendoIkari on November 09, 2018, 05:32:18 pm
Just remember to discard your Wine Merchants first!

Do we have confirmation that this matters? I agree that it likely does; but there’s 2 ways you can think of it that could be valid.

1) At the end of your buy phase, 2 things trigger. The “you may spend a coin for a coffer” and the “if you have $2 left you can discard Wine Merchants.” In this case, the order you choose the 2 things matter.

2) At the end of your buy phase, if you have $2 left, 2 things trigger: “You May spend a coin for a coffer” and “you may discard wine merchants”. In that case, the order would not matter. Wine Merchant’s “you may discard” ability has already triggered. 
Title: Re: Wine Merchant and Pageant
Post by: Donald X. on November 09, 2018, 06:47:25 pm
Do we have confirmation that this matters? I agree that it likely does; but there’s 2 ways you can think of it that could be valid.

1) At the end of your buy phase, 2 things trigger. The “you may spend a coin for a coffer” and the “if you have $2 left you can discard Wine Merchants.” In this case, the order you choose the 2 things matter.

2) At the end of your buy phase, if you have $2 left, 2 things trigger: “You May spend a coin for a coffer” and “you may discard wine merchants”. In that case, the order would not matter. Wine Merchant’s “you may discard” ability has already triggered. 
The amount of $ is checked when you resolve the ability, so it matters if you have $2 then.