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Title: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Fuu on April 25, 2018, 12:18:19 pm
Other than the equivalent Euro tournament, this is the only sporting event I care about. As always I am super excited for it. Anyone else?

Through some kind of cosmic intervention I have been between jobs for each of the last three tournaments (before which I was a kid anyway) and so I have been able to watch basically the entire month-long thing each time. This year I am a new father with a job I don't plan on leaving in the next two months, so it will be trickier!

I'm also interested in outrageously ill-informed and premature forecasts, for example: Argentina to beat France in the final. You heard it proclaimed on the basis of no evidence whatsoever here first! I called the winner in 2010 (Spain) and both the winner and runner-up in 2014 (Germany over Argentina) but this time I don't have the same magnitude of gut-feel, so probably I'll do some research and make a better prediction soon.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Jack Rudd on April 26, 2018, 08:44:07 pm
Doesn't seem a totally implausible prediction (I've just checked and both winning their groups means they wouldn't meet until the final).
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Cuzz on April 26, 2018, 09:33:52 pm
I don't follow soccer much, but I do look forward to once again cheering on the good old U.S. of A. I'm sure that a cursory Google search would tell me that they aren't favored by the "experts" to come out on top, but I'll prefer to remain hopeful.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: 2.71828..... on April 26, 2018, 11:54:38 pm
I don't follow soccer much, but I do look forward to once again cheering on the good old U.S. of A. I'm sure that a cursory Google search would tell me that they aren't favored by the "experts" to come out on top, but I'll prefer to remain hopeful.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Seprix on April 27, 2018, 12:25:04 am
USA USA US-


...oh.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: ipofanes on April 27, 2018, 03:26:54 am
Under normal circumstances The Netherlands, Chile, Italy and USA would form a Group of Death.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Trogdor the Burninator on May 24, 2018, 08:51:26 pm
As a dual-citizen of the USA and Germany, I'm still mad about the USA not making it in. Especially since all we had to do to make it in in the end was to get a draw against Trinidad and Tobago. We didn't even have to beat them!   :(  :(  :(  :(
If North America gets 2026, hopefully we can pull some miraculous upset off then



On the bright side, hopefully Germany will make a deep run this year. If Germany blows someone, anyone, away in any of the knock-out rounds (like they did against Brazil 4 years ago -- that was probably the funniest sporting event I've ever seen) I won't even care if they don't win the whole thing. Germany winning the whole thing again would be great, though.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Jack Rudd on June 15, 2018, 06:55:08 pm
Man, Spain v Portugal was a good match. More like that, please.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Trogdor the Burninator on June 17, 2018, 04:52:41 pm
I feel like there's been a lot more draws and own goals this world cup than normal.


Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: McGarnacle on June 17, 2018, 04:58:26 pm
Brazil over Germany in the final.

If the tournament was based on talent alone, France would win.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Jack Rudd on June 17, 2018, 06:54:50 pm
I feel like there's been a lot more draws and own goals this world cup than normal.
3 draws from 11 matches doesn't sound out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Trogdor the Burninator on June 18, 2018, 09:46:46 am
I feel like there's been a lot more draws and own goals this world cup than normal.
3 draws from 11 matches doesn't sound out of the ordinary.

That's true. Most of these matches have been pretty low-scoring. IIRC only 2 of the matches played so far have had one team scoring 3 or more points. Usually by now you have at least a couple of matches where one of the teams has scored 4 or 5 or at least 3 goals.

Edit: Changed "points" to "goals"
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Jack Rudd on June 18, 2018, 11:05:24 am
I feel like there's been a lot more draws and own goals this world cup than normal.
3 draws from 11 matches doesn't sound out of the ordinary.

That's true. Most of these matches have been pretty low-scoring. IIRC only 2 of the matches played so far have had one team scoring 3 or more points. Usually by now you have at least a couple of matches where one of the teams has scored 4 or 5 or at least 3 points.
(Goals, not points. It's not possible for any team so far to have scored anything other than 0, 1 or 3 points, no matter how many goals they've scored.)
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Watno on June 18, 2018, 12:12:43 pm
I feel like there's been a lot more draws and own goals this world cup than normal.
3 draws from 11 matches doesn't sound out of the ordinary.

That's true. Most of these matches have been pretty low-scoring. IIRC only 2 of the matches played so far have had one team scoring 3 or more points. Usually by now you have at least a couple of matches where one of the teams has scored 4 or 5 or at least 3 points.

Isn't 2 a couple?
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: McGarnacle on June 19, 2018, 10:55:11 pm
This has been the most miserable year for soccer in a long time.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: ipofanes on June 20, 2018, 03:21:45 am
This has been the most miserable year for soccer in a long time.

I think the worst year for football (of recent years, that is) was 2010, when Qatar won the bid for WC host.

This year, no event I remember strikes me as particularly bad for football. Video ref'ing was introduced last year, and while I am critical of it I don't think it's the end of the world. My favourite club again failed to promote, but that's expected and another story.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: McGarnacle on June 20, 2018, 10:05:51 am
This has been the most miserable year for soccer in a long time.

I think the worst year for football (of recent years, that is) was 2010, when Qatar won the bid for WC host.

This year, no event I remember strikes me as particularly bad for football. Video ref'ing was introduced last year, and while I am critical of it I don't think it's the end of the world. My favourite club again failed to promote, but that's expected and another story.

A mediocre team (Real Madrid) again wins the Champions League because a bunch of "good" teams like Bayern Munich fail spectacularly to get their act together. In the WC, all the good teams are playing like garbage, the only top teams that are playing well are Spain and Ronaldo. Poland (my favorite) is probably getting eliminated.

Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: ipofanes on June 20, 2018, 10:12:08 am
I don't watch WC for the quality of football. The last good WC has probably been 1970, with a decent one in 1994. As for the top teams, I think Brazil played a good game.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 21, 2018, 04:22:42 pm
Argentina is a mess right now. I would love to see Iceland/Croatia advance in that group
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: McGarnacle on June 27, 2018, 12:17:21 pm
Well that was unexpected.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: 2.71828..... on June 27, 2018, 12:50:14 pm
Yeah. Germany just couldn't finish. They had their chances, but in the end were just flat
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 01, 2018, 05:56:28 pm
So many unexpected results so far this world cup.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Asper on July 04, 2018, 11:21:21 am
Just glad that travesty was over quickly this year... Germans take football far too serious and make it all too much a matter of national pride. The actual players have a much healthier attitude than the public has, and I'm kind of sorry for them - but man, at least I can ride the subway again without running into drunk, noisy fans shouting "Schland" or "Weltmeister" and waving flags at me.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Tables on July 11, 2018, 05:48:41 pm
So England, having never beaten a team ranked higher than them in this world cup, just went and lost to a team ranked lower than them. Despite this, English people feel gutted and that we should have won and so on.

Frankly I'm more disappointed we didn't lose on penalties, so Croatia could keep their streak going.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: 2.71828..... on July 11, 2018, 05:56:27 pm
So England, having never beaten a team ranked higher than them in this world cup, just went and lost to a team ranked lower than them. Despite this, English people feel gutted and that we should have won and so on.

Frankly I'm more disappointed we didn't lose on penalties, so Croatia could keep their streak going.

Croatia played significantly better throughout the second half and into extra time. I just really want Croatia to beat  France now.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: DG on July 11, 2018, 10:35:05 pm
I have a friend who now works, after a takeover, for Belgian company and he was so glad that France beat Belgium so that they wouldn't have another chance to brag about things or have a chance to beat England in the final. Guess who England now play in the 3rd place play off?
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Asper on July 12, 2018, 02:10:48 am
I'd like Croatia to lose. Just because, apart from the Germans, they are the second most annoying fan group over here. There's no way to not know when Croatia won a game, as hundreds of Croatian fans will drive through the streets waving flags and honking like madmen. I wouldn't mind it as much if it wasn't a symptom of a general nationalism issue Croatia has...

I am half Croatian half German.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: ipofanes on July 12, 2018, 02:36:45 pm
tbf in 2002 and 2008 when Turkey advanced it was worse.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Asper on July 12, 2018, 03:59:17 pm
tbf in 2002 and 2008 when Turkey advanced it was worse.

True.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Watno on July 13, 2018, 12:09:12 pm
tbf in 2014 when Germany won it was worse.

FTFY
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: markusin on July 15, 2018, 12:57:30 pm
Aww, I was so ready to post a link to that French song they made to poke fun at France losing to Italy in 2006 and the Zidane headbutt.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: Asper on July 16, 2018, 12:42:51 pm
Aww, I was so ready to post a link to that French song they made to poke fun at France losing to Italy in 2006 and the Zidane headbutt.

Enlighten us nonetheless.
Title: Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup
Post by: markusin on July 16, 2018, 03:05:39 pm
Aww, I was so ready to post a link to that French song they made to poke fun at France losing to Italy in 2006 and the Zidane headbutt.

Enlighten us nonetheless.

With pleasure: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_yCnywlomk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_yCnywlomk)