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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: JThorne on December 22, 2017, 05:15:43 pm

Title: Trader + Changeling
Post by: JThorne on December 22, 2017, 05:15:43 pm
Trader in hand. Buy anything, reveal Trader, gain a silver.

1. Choose to trigger Changeling. Give the Silver back, triggering a gain on Changeling.

2. Reveal Trader. Instead of gaining the Changeling, gain a Silver. Go back to step 1.

Isn't this an infinite loop? Couldn't you then buy Triumph for infinite points, because you DID gain infinite Silvers (If you are one of those guys, please substitute "arbitrarily large number" for "infinite".) There are probably other things you can do with it, but this seems like it needs errata, or perhaps I'm missing something.

Title: Re: Trader + Changeling
Post by: 4est on December 22, 2017, 05:29:46 pm
Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure you do not actually gain Changelings in this way--you exchange them, which is different from gaining (Travellers work on the same principle).  Trader cannot be revealed in step two since you didn't gain Changeling, you exchanged Silver for it. 
Title: Re: Trader + Changeling
Post by: Jeebus on December 22, 2017, 05:43:31 pm
Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure you do not actually gain Changelings in this way--you exchange them, which is different from gaining (Travellers work on the same principle).  Trader cannot be revealed in step two since you didn't gain Changeling, you exchanged Silver for it.

Yes, when you exchange for a card, it doesn't count as gaining it. This is stated in the Adventures and Nocturne rulebooks.