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Title: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on December 13, 2017, 02:23:23 pm
Since Part III has gotten too cumbersome to do a view all, and the weird bug of starting at the second new message has been happening for a while. I considered naming it Part IIII because I'm a monster.

Speaking of monsters, what monster would store a magic marker next to a dry-erase marker by the whiteboard? Fiends.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: schadd on December 13, 2017, 02:29:37 pm
(me, filing my taxes) "wh- wait, this is a dry-erase marker! where did i leave m- oh no"
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: faust on December 14, 2017, 01:30:54 am
Relevant thread:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11311.0
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on December 14, 2017, 01:40:01 am
Relevant thread:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11311.0

That was Mafia Games.  Here we use true numbers.

(I almost said real numbers, but realized how wrong that could go)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on December 14, 2017, 04:28:40 am
That was Mafia Games.  Here we use true numbers.

Roman numerals are fake numbers, they don't even have a zero.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on December 14, 2017, 05:35:39 am
Relevant thread:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11311.0

That was Mafia Games.  Here we use true numbers.

(I almost said real numbers, but realized how wrong that could go)

well, we are using real numbers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: crax on December 14, 2017, 09:19:55 am
My friend found this weird white humanoid plastic clip/binder clip type thing with a jackal or cat-ish head, but I can't find it online anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: crax on December 14, 2017, 09:22:37 am
My friend found this weird white humanoid plastic clip/binder clip type thing with a jackal or cat-ish head, but I can't find it online anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

it's actually more like a clothespin, now that I think about it
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: crax on December 14, 2017, 11:48:38 am
I drew a picture, how do I upload it from my computer?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on December 14, 2017, 12:13:31 pm
I drew a picture, how do I upload it from my computer?

1. upload it somewhere, e.g. imgbb.com (https://imgbb.com/)
2. when you've uploaded the image, find the page with the original image in original size without any watermarks (on imgbb, you can do that by clicking the thumbnail)
3. when you have the original image open, right click on it and choose "copy image address" or equivalent
4. if you want to create a link (https://image.ibb.co/hVNE4m/800px_Claude_Monet_1899_Nadar_crop.jpg) to that image, use the url tags
5. if you want to post the image directly on the forums, use the img tags (and you can use the width parameter to make the picture smaller if that's necessary):
(https://image.ibb.co/hVNE4m/800px_Claude_Monet_1899_Nadar_crop.jpg)

You can quote this post to see how to use the aforementioned tags if that's unclear.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: crax on December 14, 2017, 12:21:11 pm
Thanks!

https://ibb.co/dzyRH6 (https://ibb.co/dzyRH6)

The img tag still wasn't working for me though
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on December 14, 2017, 12:28:29 pm
Thanks!

https://ibb.co/dzyRH6 (https://ibb.co/dzyRH6)

The img tag still wasn't working for me though

That's because you're not using the link to the image file, you're using a link to the web page that displays the image. In order to get the link to the picture, you actually need to right click on the picture and choose the option to copy the address of the image.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on December 14, 2017, 12:29:08 pm
It's the wrong link. Yout link goes to a page with the image there, not to the page of just the image. You need to use this link: https://preview.ibb.co/iFLvAR/IMG_8575.jpg

PPE ninjad
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on December 14, 2017, 12:30:12 pm
It's the wrong link. Yout link goes to a page with the image there, not to the page of just the image. You need to use this link: https://preview.ibb.co/iFLvAR/IMG_8575.jpg

This link is better: https://image.ibb.co/bBxxPm/IMG_8575.jpg
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: crax on December 14, 2017, 12:35:46 pm
Man I thought I kind of knew how to do things. Thank y'all for your help
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on December 14, 2017, 01:49:38 pm
Random Stuff Part IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: ashersky on December 14, 2017, 02:01:13 pm
/tag
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: stevanzzo on December 14, 2017, 02:18:37 pm
Skillfully avoiding Captcha's
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: enfynet on December 14, 2017, 02:21:06 pm
Already sold out at least 6 auditoriums for Star Wars tonight. Would it be unreasonable for me to call off due to "dread"?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: crax on December 14, 2017, 08:28:30 pm
Skillfully avoiding Captcha's

or go to them, and make money solving them to make accounts for bots
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on December 15, 2017, 06:24:10 pm
Skillfully avoiding Captcha's

Hi, welcome to Forum.Mafiastrategy.com. Have you checked out the non-Forum Games?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Jimmmmm on December 15, 2017, 07:46:31 pm
The temptation to click on the STAR WARS thread is strong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on December 15, 2017, 08:36:14 pm
The temptation to click on the STAR WARS thread is strong.

There aren't any blatant spoilers there that aren't blacked out... but man will that stay true before I get to watch the movie!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on December 15, 2017, 09:01:30 pm
The temptation to click on the STAR WARS thread is strong.

I've been going there and haven't been spoiled yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: enfynet on December 16, 2017, 01:33:40 am
I'm terrible at reviewing movies, and also don't care if someone spoils it for me, so I just don't bother saying anything at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Jimmmmm on December 17, 2017, 07:56:50 am
The temptation to click on the STAR WARS thread is strong.

There aren't any blatant spoilers there that aren't blacked out... but man will that stay true before I get to watch the movie!

I feel like once I'm there the temptation to hover the blacked out spoilers will overcome me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on December 17, 2017, 11:46:17 am
The temptation to click on the STAR WARS thread is strong.

There aren't any blatant spoilers there that aren't blacked out... but man will that stay true before I get to watch the movie!

I feel like once I'm there the temptation to hover the blacked out spoilers will overcome me.

Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Dark Side!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on December 17, 2017, 10:18:41 pm
I've been avoiding the forum entirely. Now that I've seen it, I can go there now.

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on December 18, 2017, 12:58:38 am
I don't even know if that was supposed to be Star Wars, but if it was, keep it in the relevant thread, please.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on December 18, 2017, 09:24:17 am
I don't even know if that was supposed to be Star Wars, but if it was, keep it in the relevant thread, please.

That was indeed a mispost. Sorry.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on December 27, 2017, 05:41:30 pm
There was a discussion about typing speed in the previous thread. For reference, I got 104 WPM with my laptop's keyboard at the time (was probably the best result out of a few tries).

Since then, I have bought a gaming keyboard (Steelseries Apex 100 to be specific), and after about a month of getting used to it, I'm getting around 110-125 WPM now. In all fairness, my laptop's keyboard is particularly crappy, but it still goes to show that the gaming stuff is really nice to have even if you're not a gamer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on December 27, 2017, 06:37:53 pm
I get 95 wpm with a terrible technique of using 6 or so fingers and jumping way too much. If I type properly with 10 fingers I get about thirty less. I still haven't managed to just make myself type with 10 fingers all the time and get used to it. I've been trying to do that years ago. I wish I could just make my keyboard give me an electric shock every time I do it differently... I'd probably get it right in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on December 31, 2017, 05:52:02 pm
Happy new year!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on January 01, 2018, 03:53:49 am
Man, I do not do well with a puking person. Fortunately, she was cognizant enough to dump her puke bucket on her own.

I could never be a father, man.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on January 02, 2018, 04:44:47 pm
Man, we shifted our policy so that everyone has to work at least until 4:00. I adjusted my schedule for that, and I'm feeling so antsy sitting here this late in the day. It's going to take some getting used to.

I also don't like coming in late at 7:30. All the good parking spaces are taken. *whine*
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on January 02, 2018, 05:33:19 pm
My post count is an anagram of my respect:

(http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00937/14504407.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: enfynet on January 02, 2018, 06:04:20 pm
Man, we shifted our policy so that everyone has to work at least until 4:00. I adjusted my schedule for that, and I'm feeling so antsy sitting here this late in the day. It's going to take some getting used to.

I also don't like coming in late at 7:30. All the good parking spaces are taken. *whine*
I either work 10-6 or 5-1. I'm usually in bed sometime around 2-3am daily.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on January 04, 2018, 09:33:43 am
I've been away from before Christmas until just now. Did I miss anything interesting on F.DS over the Christmas period? Or was 90-93% of it just      moat?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: markusin on January 08, 2018, 07:45:04 pm
Has anyone here ever played the board game Diplomacy two-player? I just did so against my dad over the weekend, after years of not having played Diplomacy at all.

Though, I've played A Game of Thrones: The Board Game recently, which is essentially the same thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on January 09, 2018, 05:02:11 pm
Today I took a different route while driving home to avoid a congested exit (well, I was also in the wrong lane and decided not to try and push over into congestion). I ended up on a magical journey around my part of the city during rush hour, in which I got to:

* Attempt to navigate home based on mostly unhelpful road signs that pointed to other cities rather than places in my city

* Do a ton of hill starts every 5 metres due to aforementioned congestion - which is great, since I needed to practice them anyway. I think I only stalled a single time, and it wasn't an issue whatsoever because of - you guessed it, congestion meaning I wouldn't have gotten anywhere anyway.

* Drive about 20 down down a 30 road that was a dual carriageway because I thought it was another road and was looking for the turn off I recognised and wasn't entirely convinced it was even a dual carriageway due to a tree line on the right blocking line of sight to the other carriageway.

All in all, it was... kinda fun I guess? I eventually found my way back to familiar territory, having spent maybe about 15 minutes extra driving.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on January 09, 2018, 05:06:45 pm
I just realized that we have both chairs and tables on f.ds!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Jimmmmm on January 09, 2018, 06:24:07 pm
I just realized that we have both chairs and tables on f.ds!

Wow. How long have you been here?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on January 09, 2018, 06:44:47 pm
only 4,5 years.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: enfynet on January 10, 2018, 12:24:57 am
I'm only a couple weeks from my 5 year anniversary date.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on January 10, 2018, 02:33:05 am
Fun fact: Chairs first post was made to correct a post of mine - although as it turned out IIRC I was correct anyway, or at least his correction also needed further correction. I'm somewhat confident therefore that Chairs named himself because of me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Lekkit on January 10, 2018, 02:36:06 am
Wouldn't he be named YouEatChairs, or something like that then?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on January 10, 2018, 03:03:57 am
Fun fact: Chairs first post was made to correct a post of mine

Wouldn't he be named Mint then?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on January 10, 2018, 09:26:01 am
Grammar nerd in me is sad. I requested a form element to be changed from "SOP's" to "SOPs." I've been informed that someone else created that element, and we're just reusing it rather than creating a new one.

I wish we could create a new one, but it's out of my hands. I just have to stare at that ugliness for, like, ever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Qvist on January 11, 2018, 06:12:10 am
I'm only a couple weeks from my 5 year anniversary date.

Wow, I'm here since 6 1/4 years, insane.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: enfynet on January 12, 2018, 01:42:13 am
Time flies when every day you're shufflin'?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Archetype on January 12, 2018, 03:58:07 am
I'm only a couple weeks from my 5 year anniversary date.

Wow, I'm here since 6 1/4 years, insane.
I just checked and I'm nearing 6 years as well. Pretty crazy considering I hardly even play Dominion anymore.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Jimmmmm on January 12, 2018, 08:38:41 am
Fun fact: Chairs first post was made to correct a post of mine - although as it turned out IIRC I was correct anyway, or at least his correction also needed further correction. I'm somewhat confident therefore that Chairs named himself because of me.

Actually as far as I can tell his first two posts were to /in for Mafia games, although this is relevant:

do you know Tables? :P

No, but that name -was- the inspiration for my own.  I was reading the guild preview, saw his username, and decided if we had tables we must need chairs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: blueblimp on January 12, 2018, 02:27:57 pm
I'm only a couple weeks from my 5 year anniversary date.

Wow, I'm here since 6 1/4 years, insane.
I just checked and I'm nearing 6 years as well. Pretty crazy considering I hardly even play Dominion anymore.
We're coming up on the 5 year anniversary of isotropic shutting down (which happened on March 15, 2013). So soon, anybody who came here from isotropic will have been here 5+ years.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: markusin on January 12, 2018, 02:47:45 pm
I'm only a couple weeks from my 5 year anniversary date.

Wow, I'm here since 6 1/4 years, insane.
I just checked and I'm nearing 6 years as well. Pretty crazy considering I hardly even play Dominion anymore.
We're coming up on the 5 year anniversary of isotropic shutting down (which happened on March 15, 2013). So soon, anybody who came here from isotropic will have been here 5+ years.

March 2013? Really? It seems I registered here in January 2013. There was a period of time where I was on Isotropic but not on F.DS, but I figured I was on the forum for longer before Iso closed down. Weird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: 2.71828..... on January 12, 2018, 06:55:38 pm
Yeah, i showed up right after Donald X went away from the forum for a while just as iso was going down and goko took over unopposed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: scott_pilgrim on January 13, 2018, 11:57:03 am
I'm going to be doing a lot of driving this weekend, can anyone recommend a good podcast or audio book? I've never been into either of those things and have no idea what I'm looking for, I just figured it might be more entertaining than listening to music for hours and people here probably have similar interests to mine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on January 13, 2018, 02:21:43 pm
I enjoy the Future of Life (https://futureoflife.org/?s=podcast) podcasts – you can download them free – but you might prefer something more light-hearted. This (https://www.samharris.org/podcast/P21) is also a source for (similarly serious) podcasts.

The audibooks I like are all in German ...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: blueblimp on January 13, 2018, 05:56:34 pm
I'm going to be doing a lot of driving this weekend, can anyone recommend a good podcast or audio book? I've never been into either of those things and have no idea what I'm looking for, I just figured it might be more entertaining than listening to music for hours and people here probably have similar interests to mine.
For podcasts:


Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on January 13, 2018, 06:12:48 pm
My mom was wondering, what's the translation of "Sizilianisches Jagdlied"?  She thinks it's Sicilian Hunting Song, but she just wants to be sure and google translate isn't perfect.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Seprix on January 13, 2018, 06:35:41 pm
New Random Stuff thread. Woohoo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Watno on January 13, 2018, 07:06:56 pm
My mom was wondering, what's the translation of "Sizilianisches Jagdlied"?  She thinks it's Sicilian Hunting Song, but she just wants to be sure and google translate isn't perfect.

Sicilian Hunting Song is correct.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: ashersky on January 14, 2018, 04:54:37 am
My mom was wondering, what's the translation of "Sizilianisches Jagdlied"?  She thinks it's Sicilian Hunting Song, but she just wants to be sure and google translate isn't perfect.

Did she ask you to ask the random stuff thread?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on January 14, 2018, 03:47:24 pm
My mom was wondering, what's the translation of "Sizilianisches Jagdlied"?  She thinks it's Sicilian Hunting Song, but she just wants to be sure and google translate isn't perfect.

Did she ask you to ask the random stuff thread?

No, but I suggested it, for fear of being wrong.  Even though it wouldn't have been me that was wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: crax on January 15, 2018, 04:07:26 pm
I had a dream about this site/dominion, which is weird because I hardly actually play and I've been away for a while. there were a bunch of new threads about a new card, called vaccinate, but it was always written as V*CCINATE. I'm not anti-vax
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on January 16, 2018, 09:51:01 am
I'm only a couple weeks from my 5 year anniversary date.

Wow, I'm here since 6 1/4 years, insane.
I just checked and I'm nearing 6 years as well. Pretty crazy considering I hardly even play Dominion anymore.
We're coming up on the 5 year anniversary of isotropic shutting down (which happened on March 15, 2013). So soon, anybody who came here from isotropic will have been here 5+ years.

Isotropic is going down?! What???
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on January 16, 2018, 09:51:46 am
I'm going to be doing a lot of driving this weekend, can anyone recommend a good podcast or audio book? I've never been into either of those things and have no idea what I'm looking for, I just figured it might be more entertaining than listening to music for hours and people here probably have similar interests to mine.

I highly recommend Harmontown.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on January 16, 2018, 04:59:09 pm
I have 4 GB RAM and this processor. (http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180116/vpkkkalc.png) What is more likely to be the bottleneck factor of slowing my computer down when I do things like have a bunch of firefox windows open and a stream running and play a 2d game, or at worst play prismata? (https://play.prismata.net/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on January 16, 2018, 05:07:31 pm
I have 4 GB RAM and this processor. (http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180116/vpkkkalc.png) What is more likely to be the bottleneck factor of slowing my computer down when I do things like have a bunch of firefox windows open and a stream running and play a 2d game, or at worst play prismata? (https://play.prismata.net/)

The RAM, but can't you just confirm this by opening task manager and checking how much of RAM and CPU is being used by each program?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on January 16, 2018, 05:14:23 pm
I have 4 GB RAM and this processor. (http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180116/vpkkkalc.png) What is more likely to be the bottleneck factor of slowing my computer down when I do things like have a bunch of firefox windows open and a stream running and play a 2d game, or at worst play prismata? (https://play.prismata.net/)

The RAM, but can't you just confirm this by opening task manager and checking how much of RAM and CPU is being used by each program?

... it's the RAM!

thanks ^)^
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kirian on January 16, 2018, 05:52:43 pm
I'm only a couple weeks from my 5 year anniversary date.

Wow, I'm here since 6 1/4 years, insane.
I just checked and I'm nearing 6 years as well. Pretty crazy considering I hardly even play Dominion anymore.

Almost 7 years here.  I was here on day 2? 3?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on January 17, 2018, 12:03:13 pm
frick, I remember why I have so little ram. I used to have twice as much but one of the sockets seems to be broken so I removed one of two bars. And indeed, I just tried putting the one into the other socket and nothing worked...

so not only do I have to replace the RAM I have rather than adding to it, but I have to do a 1-bar setup.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on January 17, 2018, 04:13:31 pm
frick, I remember why I have so little ram. I used to have twice as much but one of the sockets seems to be broken so I removed one of two bars. And indeed, I just tried putting the one into the other socket and nothing worked...

Well, that makes sense. I was actually a bit surprised that you had that processor with only 4 gigs of RAM.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on January 25, 2018, 01:25:05 pm
I have 5 000 unread emails in my "Primary" tab on gmail.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: schadd on January 25, 2018, 02:15:23 pm
i have 5000 boyfriends
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on January 25, 2018, 03:23:20 pm
i have 5000 boyfriends

They can't be all that impressive. Awaclus won't even open their e-mails.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on January 25, 2018, 03:42:13 pm
i have 5000 boyfriends

They can't be all that impressive. Awaclus won't even open their e-mails.

Most of them work at YouTube, too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on January 30, 2018, 05:07:33 pm
I think it's probably been over a year since I played Dominion Online. Not because I think ShIT have done a bad job or anything, just... I've never really felt the urge to do so. It's kinda weird, in a way. I still play Dominion face to face occasionally, but I'm probably pretty mediocre at the game now due to lack of practice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on January 31, 2018, 01:54:05 pm
I'm doing a production of Spring Awakening. I may be in over my head. That music is actually quite tough.

Oh well, it'll be exciting, and I get to portray a horny teenager. Fun times.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: schadd on January 31, 2018, 06:26:18 pm
I get to portray a horny teenager
hey same
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on February 01, 2018, 04:22:02 pm
My armchair conspiracy theory based on very limited observations: Red-light cameras are more prevalent in poorer neighborhoods because drivers in affluent neighborhoods are more likely to fight the citations, which diminishes the revenue raised by the red-light cameras. I'm ready to be refuted.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on February 11, 2018, 06:28:25 am
A friend of mine is having dental work done on Valentines day. I need some good wisdom tooth related puns to annoy her with. Possibly to make into a faux valentines day card as well for extra amusement.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: enfynet on February 11, 2018, 02:47:23 pm
https://www.amazon.com/XL-Gaming-5512444-Jawbreaker-Card/dp/B005K7KDEQ

You could start with something like this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on February 12, 2018, 09:31:11 am
A friend of mine is having dental work done on Valentines day. I need some good wisdom tooth related puns to annoy her with. Possibly to make into a faux valentines day card as well for extra amusement.

Back when I could afford to remove only one wisdom tooth, I was awake for the whole thing. It sounded horrible as the doctor broke the tooth. You could say that nobody deserves a break-up on Valentine's Day.

Probably unlikely your friend's getting gassed. Missed opportunity for saying she's left breathless (thanks, Futurama).

But if she's going under, then there could be puns about being swept off her feet or being dizzy.

And I would only recommend this if she has the darkest of humor since this is making light of a legitimate problem. Leave a card for her to wake up to with hearts on it and the caption, "Was it good for you?" Actually I feel bad suggesting that now, but I don't know how black your friend's humor is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on February 13, 2018, 12:45:15 pm
That last one is hilarious. Sadly I'm not actually going to be seeing her tomorrow, so a card for right after wouldn't work, but she'd definitely enjoy it (the card, that is) - plus as you say I don't think it's going to be a general anesthesia, just local.

Anyway, on more unrelated, random stuff notes, yesterday I watched part of an ISIS recruitment video (as part of training to prevent people being radicalised, just to clarify). It was REALLY not what I expected. Very ordinary looking (probably would be like PG13 if it was rated), with it's own catchy theme song they've written about joining a holy cause etc. Heck, even the guy doing the training said that they "sometimes find themselves singing it around the office". Note that I don't recommend trying to look up the video, unless you want to be on a list somewhere, plus you probably won't find it outside of the dark web.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on February 13, 2018, 01:04:46 pm
I've also seen an ISIS recruitment video (as a part of being an edgelord on the Internet, just to clarify). Honestly they made it sound pretty appealing, it could have easily been an ad for a company that provides some sort of military-themed recreational activities.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: jonts26 on February 13, 2018, 02:18:47 pm
I've also seen an ISIS recruitment video (as a part of being an edgelord on the Internet, just to clarify). Honestly they made it sound pretty appealing, it could have easily been an ad for a company that provides some sort of military-themed recreational activities.

Well yeah you don't radicalize people by screaming death to infidels or the holocaust was a hoax, you gotta put a nice face on it. And some production value doesn't hurt. Smile, be courteous, and offer something people feel they're missing. A sense of community, or validation, or even just a fun adventure.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on February 13, 2018, 02:41:50 pm
scientology also has pretty nice videos on their website.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kirian on February 13, 2018, 07:52:03 pm
Back when I could afford to remove only one wisdom tooth, I was awake for the whole thing. It sounded horrible as the doctor broke the tooth. You could say that nobody deserves a break-up on Valentine's Day.

I did the same thing, but with all three of my wisdom teeth.  (Fear of general anesthesia, and the gas sent me into a terrible panic, so local only.)  I actually thought the cracking and stuff was pretty cool!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: jsh357 on February 13, 2018, 10:41:20 pm
I had six wisdom teeth! I had them put me under. Really don't think I could have handled being awake for that... I'm a weenie.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on February 14, 2018, 10:19:53 am
Back when I could afford to remove only one wisdom tooth, I was awake for the whole thing. It sounded horrible as the doctor broke the tooth. You could say that nobody deserves a break-up on Valentine's Day.

I did the same thing, but with all three of my wisdom teeth.  (Fear of general anesthesia, and the gas sent me into a terrible panic, so local only.)  I actually thought the cracking and stuff was pretty cool!

Aw man, one tooth was good enough for me to go through it with local. I did the other three when I had insurance, so I was able to afford going under. It was my first time experiencing a flexible needle though. I remarked on how I didn't even feel the prick, and he explained to me the new needles. Then he wiggled it around while the needle stayed in. That probably alarmed me most of all watching him wiggle the IV delivery shaft while experiencing no pain.

The future can be pretty awesome.

Another possible valentine wish for someone with wisdom teeth extracted could be, "Your mouth is full of cotton to soak up all that blood, and your face is so numb you can't feel how much drool you're dripping, but I would kiss you anyway, valentine."
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kirian on February 14, 2018, 11:32:26 pm
I had six wisdom teeth! I had them put me under. Really don't think I could have handled being awake for that... I'm a weenie.

Mutants unite!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on February 15, 2018, 05:44:01 pm
Happy Chinese New Year!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on February 15, 2018, 06:30:41 pm
Fun game about an AI taking over the world with a paperclip factory. (http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html) Sort of like candybox but better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on February 16, 2018, 09:52:55 am
Fun game about an AI taking over the world with a paperclip factory. (http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html) Sort of like candybox but better.

That was pretty fun, took me 4-5 hours to complete.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on February 17, 2018, 11:53:13 am
Fun game about an AI taking over the world with a paperclip factory. (http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html) Sort of like candybox but better.

That was pretty fun, took me 4-5 hours to complete.

Yeah, about the same for me. Lots of changing mechanics as the game went on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Titandrake on February 20, 2018, 03:56:27 am
Them's Fightin' Herds is coming out in a few days.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on February 27, 2018, 10:17:50 am
I don't know if it's age or what, but I'm finding myself more and more growling at myself that I already had a bowel movement less than 24 hours ago. I don't want to have another one so soon afterwards.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on February 27, 2018, 10:18:59 am
I don't know if it's age or what, but I'm finding myself more and more growling at myself that I already had a bowel movement less than 24 hours ago. I don't want to have another one so soon afterwards.

Maybe that kind of stuff is random.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on February 28, 2018, 02:36:28 pm
Man, nothing like watching the AI in Androminion handle Rats really poorly. It was amusing to win against it, but it got tedious watching it play 14 Rats every turn.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on February 28, 2018, 05:33:06 pm
I had six wisdom teeth! I had them put me under. Really don't think I could have handled being awake for that... I'm a weenie.

I only ever had three :-(

(Also, I need to post something in this thread or I'll miss finding out about all the future random things...)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: scott_pilgrim on March 08, 2018, 08:52:15 pm
The recent Nintendo Direct reminded me of a bold prediction that I wanted to put in writing somewhere (which I'm putting in spoilers in case you want to watch the Nintendo Direct first):

I suspect that at least one (probably two or three) battle modes from Kirby Battle Royale will appear in the next Smash Bros game. If I had to guess which ones, I would guess Apple Scramble and Dream Theater are the most likely, with Flag Ball maybe coming in third. In all cases, they will be completely re-themed, but mechanically similar to their Kirby counterparts.

My reasoning:

Hal regularly recycles mechanics (and even sound effects! see Melee and Kirby Air Ride) between Kirby games and Smash Bros. The co-op in the Subspace Emissary in Brawl is heavily modeled after Kirby Superstar; the Smash Run mode on Smash 3DS was clearly based on City Trial from Kirby Air Ride; Master Hand is Wam-Bam Rock from Kirby Superstar. After a few weeks of playing Kirby Battle Royale the idea occurred to me that the game might have been partially developed as a "test run" for certain battle modes in a Kirby game, to see what would be popular, so they could decide which ones to implement in the next Smash Bros. game (which will get magnitudes more plays than a Kirby spin-off game). The Smash series is always looking for new modes that will help prevent people from saying "this is just like the last one with a few more characters", and adding more "party-style" mini-games would help accomplish that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Simon Jester on March 09, 2018, 07:41:25 am
Random question: Where did the meme "We are all Wandering Winder" originate from? Can't find where it all started.. :/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on March 09, 2018, 09:30:25 am
Random question: Where did the meme "We are all Wandering Winder" originate from? Can't find where it all started.. :/

Pretty sure Wandering Winder started it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on March 09, 2018, 11:40:58 am
Inb4 “where did the WW meme come from” becomes a meme.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on March 09, 2018, 02:03:27 pm
The recent Nintendo Direct reminded me of a bold prediction that I wanted to put in writing somewhere (which I'm putting in spoilers in case you want to watch the Nintendo Direct first):

I suspect that at least one (probably two or three) battle modes from Kirby Battle Royale will appear in the next Smash Bros game. If I had to guess which ones, I would guess Apple Scramble and Dream Theater are the most likely, with Flag Ball maybe coming in third. In all cases, they will be completely re-themed, but mechanically similar to their Kirby counterparts.

My reasoning:

Hal regularly recycles mechanics (and even sound effects! see Melee and Kirby Air Ride) between Kirby games and Smash Bros. The co-op in the Subspace Emissary in Brawl is heavily modeled after Kirby Superstar; the Smash Run mode on Smash 3DS was clearly based on City Trial from Kirby Air Ride; Master Hand is Wam-Bam Rock from Kirby Superstar. After a few weeks of playing Kirby Battle Royale the idea occurred to me that the game might have been partially developed as a "test run" for certain battle modes in a Kirby game, to see what would be popular, so they could decide which ones to implement in the next Smash Bros. game (which will get magnitudes more plays than a Kirby spin-off game). The Smash series is always looking for new modes that will help prevent people from saying "this is just like the last one with a few more characters", and adding more "party-style" mini-games would help accomplish that.

I think it seems likely. Smash Bros. has a ton of mechanics borrowed from games Sakurai worked on. It's frustrating that he seems to be a bit of an auteur and insists on including his own work so heavily in a game that's really more about the diversity of Nintendo in general. Not just in mechanics (although tripping was definitely something we all loved, right?), but you can see it in things like how much KI stuff was included in Smash 4 (3 characters, one of which had the largest custom move pool of any character) and Kirby before that. I'm hopeful the next smash will be different but I'm not expecting it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on March 09, 2018, 08:06:48 pm
Inb4 “where did the WW meme come from” becomes a meme.

It has already been in the Cards Against Humanity deck for quite a while.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on March 15, 2018, 03:15:38 pm
Is 1/3+1/3 equal to 2/3? (https://www.quora.com/Is-1-3-1-3-equal-to-2-3)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on March 15, 2018, 04:12:24 pm
Is 1/3+1/3 equal to 2/3? (https://www.quora.com/Is-1-3-1-3-equal-to-2-3)

The suggested “similar questions” at the bottom are also a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on March 18, 2018, 05:11:45 am
This (https://www.facebook.com/tanksbeingtanks/posts/1792630064129064) is probably the most convincing joke explanation I've seen. It has citations to 8 different sources and all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on April 18, 2018, 08:47:26 am
I find it interesting how there's a tendency to overstate the amount of time we wait.

For example, I was walking into work and was behind my co-worker by about 15-20 seconds. I could see him up ahead in the parking lot, but he quickly vanished from view. When I arrived at the elevator, the doors were already shutting, and he was whisked away to our office.

When I arrived, he told me that he was standing in the elevator lobby for what must've been 4 minutes before anyone realized nobody pressed the call button. I literally followed him into the building and was certainly not 4 minutes behind him. I don't think he was attempting to lie. I've seen this happen a lot, including in my own tellings. We'll say that something took a long time when it might have only been 30 seconds.

I think it's for dramatic flair. While 20 seconds is a long time to wait before replying to someone's question, it's more dramatic to say, "It took Bob 5 minutes to tell me my ass didn't look big in these pants." It's not as grandiose to say that I waited 20 seconds for a response. That doesn't sound long at all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: scott_pilgrim on April 18, 2018, 08:58:53 am
I find it interesting how there's a tendency to overstate the amount of time we wait.

For example, I was walking into work and was behind my co-worker by about 15-20 seconds. I could see him up ahead in the parking lot, but he quickly vanished from view. When I arrived at the elevator, the doors were already shutting, and he was whisked away to our office.

When I arrived, he told me that he was standing in the elevator lobby for what must've been 4 minutes before anyone realized nobody pressed the call button. I literally followed him into the building and was certainly not 4 minutes behind him. I don't think he was attempting to lie. I've seen this happen a lot, including in my own tellings. We'll say that something took a long time when it might have only been 30 seconds.

I think it's for dramatic flair. While 20 seconds is a long time to wait before replying to someone's question, it's more dramatic to say, "It took Bob 5 minutes to tell me my ass didn't look big in these pants." It's not as grandiose to say that I waited 20 seconds for a response. That doesn't sound long at all.

This is something I've thought about before too. My guess is that people slightly overstate lengths of time to make sure that their claimed length sounds impressive; but then people start to think of what is actually 20 seconds as being 25 seconds, so they then try to slightly overstate what they think of as 25 seconds (which is actually 20 seconds), so now 20 seconds gets labeled as 30 seconds; and this process iterates until today when people are now referring to seconds as minutes.

What's even more interesting to me is that I suspect there's an upper bound (e.g. I don't think we will ever reach a point where 20 seconds gets referred to as 4 hours); and also that it seems like we don't get this far off when measuring longer units of time. (People may refer to 30 seconds as 5 minutes, meaning they're off by a factor of 10; but I don't think anyone ever refers to 1 hour as 10 hours). Maybe this is because people are more likely to actually measure longer periods of time by looking at a clock?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on April 18, 2018, 09:42:32 am
I think people just dramatically underestimate how long 30 seconds actually is.

This is super prevalent in writing. Even high prestige books commit this fallacy fairly often. For example, in Harry Potter #5, there is a scene where a character looks at another for a full minute before (I think) starting to laugh. 10 seconds would be an appropriate amount of time that feels really socially strange and unnaturally long. 20 seconds would be seriously pushing it. 60 is nuts.

Well, and it seems to me that people just do the same thing, to a lesser degree, when they talk. They think 'long time' and then put out the 4 minute number. Well, it was a long time; 20 seconds, in this case, is long. It's just not 4 minutes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: mcmcsalot on April 19, 2018, 02:08:47 pm
I think the over-exaggerating phenomenon is actually due to social preference. Most people when telling a story or relating a bit of information are actually trying to convey and emotion to the other person, not facts. In Kuildeous's situation it happens because for realistic purposes Kuildeous does not care how long their co-worker waited for the elevator. That is literally a useless fact that has no relevance to Kuildeous's life. The only two reasons to relate that information to Kuildeous is to 1) make kuildeous laugh at the ridiculousness of a bunch of people waiting around and realizing they hadn't pushed the button, or 2) receive empathy from kuildeous for the time he had to wait for the elevator and to accomplish either of those goals it is helpful to exaggerate the time spent waiting. Compare this form of discussion (non factual but conveys an emotion) to strictly factual conversation (small talk) and people greatly prefer exaggerated conversation. Of course the goal would be to have a strictly factual conversation that also conveys an emotions but that is rare and usually requires the conversing parties to have a close relationship.  In the end I think this form of communication has become more prevalent in modern times (especially in america) because people feel the need to converse much more often. If the need arises to converse and one has an option of small talk or exaggerating a story to convey an emotion they will go with the exaggerated story every time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Watno on April 19, 2018, 05:39:26 pm
I agree with silverspawn, people often are bad at estimating measurements.
For example, I recently ordered something 20 centimeters long, and it was less than half the size i had imagined.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on April 19, 2018, 05:49:47 pm
Random body part estimates:

Your elbow to your fingertips is roughly 40cm
Hold out your arm to the side. The distance from fingertips to... somewhere around the opposite side of your neck is about 1 meter.
Hold out both arms to the side. The distance from fingertip to fingertip is roughly your height.
Stretch apart your thumb and little finger on one hand. That's about 15-20cm.

Rather ironic using body parts to estimate metric lengths, I know, but these come in handy sometimes. Of course, your kilometerage may vary depending on your height/lengths/body shape.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on April 19, 2018, 06:55:29 pm
My problem with estimating centimeters is that because I'm in the United States, the only time I use centimeters is in science, and in those cases the actual values they quantify don't really matter, and I end up thinking of centimeters as short inches.  However, I've noticed that in my mind I sometimes think of it being about 1.5 centimeters to an inch, not 2.5 centimeters to an inch...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on April 20, 2018, 03:43:13 pm
My problem with estimating centimeters is that because I'm in the United States, the only time I use centimeters is in science, and in those cases the actual values they quantify don't really matter, and I end up thinking of centimeters as short inches.  However, I've noticed that in my mind I sometimes think of it being about 1.5 centimeters to an inch, not 2.5 centimeters to an inch...

Wait... WAIT. I know the US uses a lot of Imperial units, but do you seriously like not even use cm and m on a daily basis? Like, do schoolkids not have standard 15cm/30cm rulers? Do people not know doorframes are about 2m high? Is it not common knowledge that 1 mile is 1 kilometer, 609 metres, 34 centimetres and 4 milimetres? Okay that last one is maybe not common here either but still, this blows my mind that you guys are using feet and inches for... most things?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: mcmcsalot on April 20, 2018, 04:10:52 pm
My problem with estimating centimeters is that because I'm in the United States, the only time I use centimeters is in science, and in those cases the actual values they quantify don't really matter, and I end up thinking of centimeters as short inches.  However, I've noticed that in my mind I sometimes think of it being about 1.5 centimeters to an inch, not 2.5 centimeters to an inch...

Wait... WAIT. I know the US uses a lot of Imperial units, but do you seriously like not even use cm and m on a daily basis? Like, do schoolkids not have standard 15cm/30cm rulers? Do people not know doorframes are about 2m high? Is it not common knowledge that 1 mile is 1 kilometer, 609 metres, 34 centimetres and 4 milimetres? Okay that last one is maybe not common here either but still, this blows my mind that you guys are using feet and inches for... most things?

Yep, its awful. Our rulers are 12 inches across the top and then it has 30cm flipped on the bottom. If you are a runner you are somewhat aware of distances because races are 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, and 3200 meter distances though it is assumed those last to are one and two miles.

But yes I measure my height as 6 feet 1 inch, 9 feet ceilings are a common measurement. Legal descriptions for properties are described in feet. Survey's of land use feet. It's really only the scientific fields that use metric units. It is an extremely depressing fact.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Donald X. on April 20, 2018, 04:23:46 pm
Wait... WAIT. I know the US uses a lot of Imperial units, but do you seriously like not even use cm and m on a daily basis? Like, do schoolkids not have standard 15cm/30cm rulers? Do people not know doorframes are about 2m high? Is it not common knowledge that 1 mile is 1 kilometer, 609 metres, 34 centimetres and 4 milimetres? Okay that last one is maybe not common here either but still, this blows my mind that you guys are using feet and inches for... most things?
And j is the easiest to type letter on our keyboards, and the tenth month is October.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on April 20, 2018, 04:28:50 pm
My problem with estimating centimeters is that because I'm in the United States, the only time I use centimeters is in science, and in those cases the actual values they quantify don't really matter, and I end up thinking of centimeters as short inches.  However, I've noticed that in my mind I sometimes think of it being about 1.5 centimeters to an inch, not 2.5 centimeters to an inch...

Wait... WAIT. I know the US uses a lot of Imperial units, but do you seriously like not even use cm and m on a daily basis? Like, do schoolkids not have standard 15cm/30cm rulers? Do people not know doorframes are about 2m high? Is it not common knowledge that 1 mile is 1 kilometer, 609 metres, 34 centimetres and 4 milimetres? Okay that last one is maybe not common here either but still, this blows my mind that you guys are using feet and inches for... most things?

Oh yeah, very little metric happens in America. There are some exceptions.

As stated, there are races that are measured in meters. You can buy a 2-liter bottle of soda, but don't expect anyone to figure out how much soda is in 300 milliliters.

Many wrenches are sold in two sets to account for cars (and whatever else) built with metric bolts.

I always hear of street drugs being sold in the realm of grams, but I don't have firsthand knowledge of that. But a lot of medicine lists ingredients in milligrams.

When people aren't up for running a marathon (26.2 miles, I believe), they may sign up to run a 5K or a 10K. 

Aside from the scientific community, everyday life in America is almost exclusively imperial measurements. Unless I'm washing down 500 mg of ibuprofen with a 2-liter Coke after running a 5K, Americans would just stare at me blankly if I try to use anything metric.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on April 20, 2018, 04:37:12 pm
If you really want to have some fun, go to any discussion group of the Pathfinder RPG (based on 3rd edition of Dungeons & Dragons) and suggest that the game should be published in metric. People will spiral into a frothing fit to tell you why metric is a bad idea in their RPG.

My favorite "argument" is that if the game changes so that each square is 2 meters instead of 5 feet (which the Star Wars RPG actually did do BTW), then the iconic "5-foot step" would have to be renamed to the "6.56-foot step" and that's too hard to memorize. Some people are so entrenched in imperial that they can't even fathom renaming it to a "2-meter step." Yes, 5 feet sounds like quite a large step; it's not a literal single step.

I'm pretty bad at metric, but I've had some practice with the Torg RPG in 1990. It used metric even when it was an American publisher. Now that it's owned by a German publisher, metric is even more natural.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on April 20, 2018, 04:40:00 pm
I always hear of street drugs being sold in the realm of grams, but I don't have firsthand knowledge of that. But a lot of medicine lists ingredients in milligrams.

In all fairness, I don't have any idea how much is one milligram.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: markusin on April 20, 2018, 05:08:31 pm
My problem with estimating centimeters is that because I'm in the United States, the only time I use centimeters is in science, and in those cases the actual values they quantify don't really matter, and I end up thinking of centimeters as short inches.  However, I've noticed that in my mind I sometimes think of it being about 1.5 centimeters to an inch, not 2.5 centimeters to an inch...

Wait... WAIT. I know the US uses a lot of Imperial units, but do you seriously like not even use cm and m on a daily basis? Like, do schoolkids not have standard 15cm/30cm rulers? Do people not know doorframes are about 2m high? Is it not common knowledge that 1 mile is 1 kilometer, 609 metres, 34 centimetres and 4 milimetres? Okay that last one is maybe not common here either but still, this blows my mind that you guys are using feet and inches for... most things?

I remember those 15/30cm rulers having the other side be in 6/12 inches, and so 30cm is approximately a foot. That's like the main instance of me being able to understand imperial. After that you have one yard equal to three feet, and then the conversions stop being easy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on April 21, 2018, 03:10:39 am
As far as I'm concerned, one yard = one meter and one foot = the distance that sound travels in 1 ms. They're both off like by 10% but that's close enough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: faust on April 21, 2018, 04:43:02 am
If you really want to have some fun, go to any discussion group of the Pathfinder RPG (based on 3rd edition of Dungeons & Dragons) and suggest that the game should be published in metric. People will spiral into a frothing fit to tell you why metric is a bad idea in their RPG.

My favorite "argument" is that if the game changes so that each square is 2 meters instead of 5 feet (which the Star Wars RPG actually did do BTW), then the iconic "5-foot step" would have to be renamed to the "6.56-foot step" and that's too hard to memorize. Some people are so entrenched in imperial that they can't even fathom renaming it to a "2-meter step." Yes, 5 feet sounds like quite a large step; it's not a literal single step.

I'm pretty bad at metric, but I've had some practice with the Torg RPG in 1990. It used metric even when it was an American publisher. Now that it's owned by a German publisher, metric is even more natural.
Well RPGs are an area where I actually kind of get this, especially if the setting is medieval where you wouldn't have a standardized system in-world anyway and people would use their actual feet etc. to measure things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Cuzz on April 21, 2018, 11:46:25 am
The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on April 23, 2018, 08:54:23 am
Well RPGs are an area where I actually kind of get this, especially if the setting is medieval where you wouldn't have a standardized system in-world anyway and people would use their actual feet etc. to measure things.

I think you may be giving them too much credit. If they were really in it for the verisimilitude, then they would have different measurements of feet based on the king of the land they are visiting. Then you get into funky physics like an arrow being fired in Kingdom A at only 2/3 the distance of it being fired in Kingdom B.

I think this really boils down to grognards. Especially in Pathfinder, which exists solely because D&D players did not want to leave behind D&D 3rd edition, so they published their own rulebook of the open license rules and continued using the same rules for another 10 years. Pathfinder players are not known for being progressive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on April 23, 2018, 10:03:51 am
Well, in TTRPGs, it's probably best to use the units you're the most familiar with. If you have to do conversions in your head, that breaks the immersion much more than using a unit which realistically couldn't be used by the characters of the setting but every player understands perfectly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on April 23, 2018, 11:21:42 am
Well, in TTRPGs, it's probably best to use the units you're the most familiar with.

This is true for everybody. We work best with what is familiar to us. I still use feet and pounds in everything. I recognize that it would be easier overall if America switches to metric, but there would be a period of growing pains. I'm guilty of this too. If we suddenly went metric I'd be thrown off if someone told me to drive 800 meters and then turn left. I'm actually pretty bad about being told to turn left in 300 feet too, but it'd be worse if it were metric for me.

So yeah, it would be easier to use the units people are familiar with in TTRPGs. Seems like RPGs would be the best place to change systems since it's not that important to get the units right in a game. Not like getting confused cooking something or sending directions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Jimmmmm on April 26, 2018, 08:59:20 pm
test
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on April 26, 2018, 11:30:13 pm
test

Back in the old days, on the MineZ minecraft server, they would censor swear words, and "test" was one of them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Puk on April 28, 2018, 06:41:53 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGeiGVvVRBY
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on May 05, 2018, 07:44:40 am
http://brainchip.thecomicseries.com/comics/first/

Check this out, it's awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Simon Jester on May 05, 2018, 01:29:15 pm
What in the multiverses was that?

Lol that they are Norwegians :D
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on May 05, 2018, 11:08:52 pm
http://brainchip.thecomicseries.com/comics/first/

Check this out, it's awesome.

Well, shit, now I'm sucked in.

Gives me an interesting idea for an RPG though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on May 06, 2018, 01:56:06 am
I had a dream where someone made this big, complicated graph deciding whether or not something should be posted in Random Stuff or if it should go in a new thread.  It kind of reminded me of those phase diagrams posted a while back, and it included criteria such as how interesting it is, how much discussion you are expecting to get from it, and how exciting/exhilarating the topic is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: LaLight on May 06, 2018, 04:09:30 am
http://brainchip.thecomicseries.com/comics/first/

Check this out, it's awesome.

Awesome, I couldn’t stop until i finished it!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on May 07, 2018, 08:47:41 am
http://brainchip.thecomicseries.com/comics/first/

Check this out, it's awesome.

I don't feel the payoff at the end was worth it. It became a jumbled mess IMO. But having a protagonist shift is an underused device, and I feel that was successfully done here. It was remarkably consistent in its worldview, even bringing back older elements we had forgotten about.

And the opening was pretty fun. It makes me wonder if this was one of the inspirations for the Rick and Morty episode with splitting possibilities, though the ability to talk with your other selves is a nice touch, especially since it helped get Ulf out of some sticky situations.

The Buddhist virus makes me wonder if the artist knew what Buddhism was or if they simply chose something absurd to offset the Christian virus. It was not subtle in its disdain for religion though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on May 16, 2018, 07:19:46 pm
In 2011, someone made a thread called "1-card Combo" on f.ds.

The card in question was Farming Village. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=203.0)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on May 17, 2018, 09:49:58 am
In 2011, someone made a thread called "1-card Combo" on f.ds.

The card in question was Farming Village. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=203.0)

Even though the OP way way wrong; I feel like the welcome to a new poster could have been more welcoming. No idea why Theory locked that thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on May 17, 2018, 10:07:33 am
A little under half of all members of this forum have 0 posts. Well over half have either 0 or 1. (As far as I know, that doesn't include any posts they might have in the forum games section).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SirClemens on May 17, 2018, 12:39:13 pm
I linked the card alchemy revealtion in a non Dominon Discord and forgot this post was in it:

I hope this is the first thread someone finds on f.ds.

If someone from that Discord clicks on that link: You are welcome, McGarnacle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on May 18, 2018, 10:48:48 pm
What have we done...

(http://i.thinimg.com/img/3bvt.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on May 19, 2018, 03:19:49 pm
What have we done...

Thanks for posting this. Otherwise I'd have missed out on a lot of funny posts.

Totally unrelated – what is the common English term for the person doing a lecture or tutorial at a university that works in both cases? That person isn't always a professor. Lecturer?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: jsh357 on May 19, 2018, 05:01:17 pm
What have we done...

Thanks for posting this. Otherwise I'd have missed out on a lot of funny posts.

Totally unrelated – what is the common English term for the person doing a lecture or tutorial at a university that works in both cases? That person isn't always a professor. Lecturer?

Instructor
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kirian on May 19, 2018, 07:39:57 pm
What have we done...

Thanks for posting this. Otherwise I'd have missed out on a lot of funny posts.

Totally unrelated – what is the common English term for the person doing a lecture or tutorial at a university that works in both cases? That person isn't always a professor. Lecturer?

Sometimes Lecturer.  Depends on the college.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kirian on May 19, 2018, 07:42:45 pm
My problem with estimating centimeters is that because I'm in the United States, the only time I use centimeters is in science, and in those cases the actual values they quantify don't really matter, and I end up thinking of centimeters as short inches.  However, I've noticed that in my mind I sometimes think of it being about 1.5 centimeters to an inch, not 2.5 centimeters to an inch...

Wait... WAIT. I know the US uses a lot of Imperial units, but do you seriously like not even use cm and m on a daily basis? Like, do schoolkids not have standard 15cm/30cm rulers? Do people not know doorframes are about 2m high? Is it not common knowledge that 1 mile is 1 kilometer, 609 metres, 34 centimetres and 4 milimetres? Okay that last one is maybe not common here either but still, this blows my mind that you guys are using feet and inches for... most things?

I'm sorry you had to find out this way.  It really is terrible, especially for those of us who actually prefer metric.  Maybe by the end of my life it'll change; I'm trying to teach our kids to use metric.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kirian on May 19, 2018, 07:44:47 pm
I agree with silverspawn, people often are bad at estimating measurements.
For example, I recently ordered something 20 centimeters long, and it was less than half the size i had imagined.

Was... was this supposed to be a dick joke?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: jsh357 on May 19, 2018, 09:07:38 pm
I don't know anybody who uses metric units over here. I agree that it's troubling, but then it's hardly the only anti intellectual trend in the US.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on May 20, 2018, 08:54:37 am
What have we done...

Thanks for posting this. Otherwise I'd have missed out on a lot of funny posts.

Totally unrelated – what is the common English term for the person doing a lecture or tutorial at a university that works in both cases? That person isn't always a professor. Lecturer?

Instructor

"Tutor" would be okay in a lot of settings, and I think it has more academic connotations than "instructor". It's true that in the UK, "professor" is usually reserved for tenured professorships, whereas in the US it tends to mean almost anyone with an academic teaching post. It also depends on what you understand by the word tutorial :-)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on May 20, 2018, 11:59:29 am
What have we done...

Thanks for posting this. Otherwise I'd have missed out on a lot of funny posts.

Totally unrelated – what is the common English term for the person doing a lecture or tutorial at a university that works in both cases? That person isn't always a professor. Lecturer?

Instructor

"Tutor" would be okay in a lot of settings, and I think it has more academic connotations than "instructor". It's true that in the UK, "professor" is usually reserved for tenured professorships, whereas in the US it tends to mean almost anyone with an academic teaching post. It also depends on what you understand by the word tutorial :-)

I've only ever heard tutor used for one-on-one teaching.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: jsh357 on May 20, 2018, 12:01:38 pm
What have we done...

Thanks for posting this. Otherwise I'd have missed out on a lot of funny posts.

Totally unrelated – what is the common English term for the person doing a lecture or tutorial at a university that works in both cases? That person isn't always a professor. Lecturer?

Instructor

"Tutor" would be okay in a lot of settings, and I think it has more academic connotations than "instructor". It's true that in the UK, "professor" is usually reserved for tenured professorships, whereas in the US it tends to mean almost anyone with an academic teaching post. It also depends on what you understand by the word tutorial :-)

As an instructor, I never heard the word tutor used for the speaker of record at an educational meeting. "Tutor" usually refers to somebody who works with a student one on one.

That said, if the question is "what should I call this person verbally to get their attention," then the answer is that if they do not have a PhD, you either say "professor" or "Mr./Mrs./MS. Name."
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on May 20, 2018, 01:08:17 pm
I've only ever heard tutor used for one-on-one teaching.

I'm using "tutorial" in this sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutorial_system -- as I mentioned to silver, it really depends what he means by "tutorial" :-)

I came through the Oxford system as an undergraduate, and then tutored for a couple of years as a grad student too. Tutorials were almost always either in pairs or threes, though I had a few on my own because of the way some stuff worked out as a third-year undergrad, and I found those the most terrifying! I think as a student, I had maybe 3-5 tutorials per week during the intense bits of termtime, on top of 10+ hours of lectures.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Watno on May 20, 2018, 01:15:03 pm
At German universities tutorials are usually acompanying a lecture and are held by more advanced advanced students once or twice a week with groups between 5-20 students.
Students do exercises about the lecture material at home, and the tutorials discuss the solutions to those (after the students have worked on them themselves) furthermore. students can ask the tutor if they have trouble with understanding parts of the lecture during these tutorials.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on May 20, 2018, 01:36:27 pm
As an instructor, I never heard the word tutor used for the speaker of record at an educational meeting. "Tutor" usually refers to somebody who works with a student one on one.

That said, if the question is "what should I call this person verbally to get their attention," then the answer is that if they do not have a PhD, you either say "professor" or "Mr./Mrs./MS. Name."

It depends where you are. Here in the UK, most people doing teaching are not correctly called professors, because "professor" is only the very top tier of the academic hierarchy, with readers, lecturers and research fellows below that (while still holding a PhD). If you address all of them "professor", you may just sound like you're trying to suck up, or are generally ignorant/unobservant. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_ranks)

I'm assuming silver wanted to know for  fanfic-writing purposes, and I'm relatively sure that he leans towards US English for that, but on the off-chance his interest is academic, I figure it's worth covering all bases :-)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on May 20, 2018, 01:46:29 pm
I've only ever heard tutor used for one-on-one teaching.

I'm using "tutorial" in this sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutorial_system -- as I mentioned to silver, it really depends what he means by "tutorial" :-)

That's exactly what I meant! Which is also what Watno said.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Watno on May 20, 2018, 02:02:31 pm
I've only ever heard tutor used for one-on-one teaching.

I'm using "tutorial" in this sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutorial_system -- as I mentioned to silver, it really depends what he means by "tutorial" :-)

That's exactly what I meant! Which is also what Watno said.

Umm, that article talks about goup sizes of 2 to 3, whcih is not what I said.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on May 20, 2018, 02:04:18 pm
I confess to only reading a few lines and concluding it was what I meant. What you said, then, sizes of 5-40
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on May 20, 2018, 09:39:37 pm
As an instructor, I never heard the word tutor used for the speaker of record at an educational meeting. "Tutor" usually refers to somebody who works with a student one on one.

That said, if the question is "what should I call this person verbally to get their attention," then the answer is that if they do not have a PhD, you either say "professor" or "Mr./Mrs./MS. Name."

It depends where you are. Here in the UK, most people doing teaching are not correctly called professors, because "professor" is only the very top tier of the academic hierarchy, with readers, lecturers and research fellows below that (while still holding a PhD). If you address all of them "professor", you may just sound like you're trying to suck up, or are generally ignorant/unobservant. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_academic_ranks)

I'm assuming silver wanted to know for  fanfic-writing purposes, and I'm relatively sure that he leans towards US English for that, but on the off-chance his interest is academic, I figure it's worth covering all bases :-)

In my experience teaching undergrads and talking to people in confusing academic or administrative roles, whenever someone addresses us as “professor”, we just assume they are confused (which, to be honest, even actual professors don’t get it right). If they keep addressing us as “professor” after you’ve repeatedly signed your emails as, say, “Kevin”, THEN we assume they are sucking up.

We would only make fun of a student if they started an email as “hey professor Jim” or some such.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on May 22, 2018, 05:09:52 am
http://detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html

You can try to draw symbols. Fun!

When I drew the deadly hollow symbol from harry potter, one of the results I got was the interrobang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang). When I tried to draw the interrobang, I didn't get the interrobang anymore :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on May 22, 2018, 08:15:11 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on May 22, 2018, 11:18:45 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.

You want to design several organs?  We would probably poop out of our mouths if it weren't for the fact that it's not sanitary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on May 23, 2018, 01:39:42 am
It’s funny when you are randomly browsing the internet and you recognize someone. Our favourite mod got comment of the week in a pretty well-known blog (don’t want to give more details in case that’s doxxing).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: faust on May 23, 2018, 06:18:44 am
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.

You want to design several organs?  We would probably poop out of our mouths if it weren't for the fact that it's not sanitary.
Yep, it's defnitely best to keep the number of openings where problematic stuff can enter to a minimum. When you design a spaceship, you don't drop airlocks all over the place for different functions [this is me speaking from my vast experience in designing spaceships].
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on May 23, 2018, 09:33:17 am
I think it makes a lot of sense to have multi-purpose body parts. In many cases, it's easier for an existing body part to evolve to perform another function in addition to what it was already doing than for a completely new body part to emerge. For example, mudskippers use their fins for walking on land, because that's easier than growing a pair of legs or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on May 23, 2018, 12:57:17 pm
I posted on Facebook that a co-worker looks a lot like Moss from the IT Crowd. Now my status is filled with Moss GIFs, and I'm deliriously happy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kirian on May 24, 2018, 04:16:11 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.

You want to design several organs?  We would probably poop out of our mouths if it weren't for the fact that it's not sanitary.
Yep, it's defnitely best to keep the number of openings where problematic stuff can enter to a minimum. When you design a spaceship, you don't drop airlocks all over the place for different functions [this is me speaking from my vast experience in designing spaceships].

I think it makes a lot of sense to have multi-purpose body parts. In many cases, it's easier for an existing body part to evolve to perform another function in addition to what it was already doing than for a completely new body part to emerge. For example, mudskippers use their fins for walking on land, because that's easier than growing a pair of legs or something.

And if you want proof that "intelligent design" is utter bullshit, look no further than these two systems and ask which the world looks more like!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Polk5440 on May 24, 2018, 05:39:16 pm
PCA helps one think like blindfolds help one see. Sorry. Just had to get that out of my system.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on May 24, 2018, 05:40:46 pm
...principal component analysis?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on May 24, 2018, 07:53:58 pm
And if you want proof that "intelligent design" is utter bullshit, look no further than these two systems and ask which the world looks more like!

Those be fighting words
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: blueblimp on May 24, 2018, 08:08:16 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.
Fun fact: newborn babies can breathe through their noses while suckling using their mouths. We lose this ability at some point later.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on May 24, 2018, 09:18:47 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.

You want to design several organs?  We would probably poop out of our mouths if it weren't for the fact that it's not sanitary.
Yep, it's defnitely best to keep the number of openings where problematic stuff can enter to a minimum. When you design a spaceship, you don't drop airlocks all over the place for different functions [this is me speaking from my vast experience in designing spaceships].

Well, you don't open the airlock to send out messages.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on May 24, 2018, 09:19:49 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.
Fun fact: newborn babies can breathe through their noses while suckling using their mouths. We lose this ability at some point later.

They also don't need to make smalltalk. Babies seem to have it made.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on May 24, 2018, 11:26:09 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.
Fun fact: newborn babies can breathe through their noses while suckling using their mouths. We lose this ability at some point later.

I must test this.

A lot.

For science.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on May 25, 2018, 12:06:15 am
Time to put on your lab coat and head out to the bars.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on June 04, 2018, 01:56:11 pm
Netflix will take over the world with the skip intro button. It's now a better product than having an entire show on the harddrive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on June 04, 2018, 04:06:53 pm
Netflix will take over the world with the skip intro button. It's now a better product than having an entire show on the harddrive.

Having an entire show on the hard drive has had that feature ever since mkv chapters.

EDIT: Looked it up, chapters were introduced into mkv in 2003-08-04.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on June 04, 2018, 07:30:06 pm
Netflix will take over the world with the skip intro button. It's now a better product than having an entire show on the harddrive.

What's worth watching on Netflix these days?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: LastFootnote on June 04, 2018, 11:17:07 pm
Netflix will take over the world with the skip intro button. It's now a better product than having an entire show on the harddrive.

Does that mean they got rid of the thing where it automatically skips the intro? Because for some shows it automatically does (or did) skip the intro whenever you watch more than one episode at a time. And sometimes, like with Series of Unfortunate Events, the intro differs from episode to episode and I want to see it, which means I have to rewind. Which is annoying when I'm watching on the Wii U (which is the Netflix device I have hooked up to that TV), and the controls are sometimes unresponsive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on June 05, 2018, 03:34:04 am
Does that mean they got rid of the thing where it automatically skips the intro? Because for some shows it automatically does (or did) skip the intro whenever you watch more than one episode at a time.

No, it still does that

Netflix will take over the world with the skip intro button. It's now a better product than having an entire show on the harddrive.

What's worth watching on Netflix these days?

for you ... uh ... s03e06 of black mirror if you haven't seen it. maaaybe the series of unfortunate events or jessica jones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: LostPhoenix on June 05, 2018, 01:08:30 pm
Netflix will take over the world with the skip intro button. It's now a better product than having an entire show on the harddrive.

What's worth watching on Netflix these days?

Lost in Space looks promising, though I've only seen the first couple episodes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on June 05, 2018, 02:27:33 pm
Most DVDs have always had a skip intro button, called next chapter. Though sometimes DVDs have poor chapter divisions where that doesn't work. In which case fast-forwarding for a few seconds does the same thing, but takes 3-5 seconds instead of 1 second.

And yeah, it's annoying with shows like Family Guy, where they will occasionally have a joke stuck in the middle of the opening credits. It's only happened like 3-4 times in the first 14 seasons, but you still have to watch (or at least fast-forward through) all the credits just in case.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on June 05, 2018, 02:34:57 pm
Does that mean they got rid of the thing where it automatically skips the intro? Because for some shows it automatically does (or did) skip the intro whenever you watch more than one episode at a time.

No, it still does that

Netflix will take over the world with the skip intro button. It's now a better product than having an entire show on the harddrive.

What's worth watching on Netflix these days?

for you ... uh ... s03e06 of black mirror if you haven't seen it. maaaybe the series of unfortunate events or jessica jones.

Hmm.. not a fan of Black Mirror overall, though that's going on the first season or two mostly, and I haven't seen more than the VR spaceship episode of the most recent set. They clearly like playing with "edgy" ideas, but not enough to think very far through the implications for those overall in society, so I feel like it ends up as a series of seemingly controversial but fundamentally empty statements. Also I think I like things better if they come in lots of installments like GoT. You were the one who convinced me I should give that a try, so now I'm looking for a recommendation that's at least as good :-P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on June 05, 2018, 05:08:48 pm
Also I think I like things better if they come in lots of installments like GoT. You were the one who convinced me I should give that a try, so now I'm looking for a recommendation that's at least as good :-P

Well, let me know if you find something, because I've certainly never seen any show as good as first 5 seasons of GoT. The four or so shows that I think come somewhat close are all things that I don't think you'd like, including Black Mirror. But Black mirror episodes are standalone, so you can just view s03e06 as a 70 minute long movie without bothering with the rest.

I don't think Black Mirror is generally trying to have a message. I think it's mostly depicting possible futures and then sets a plausible story in them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on June 19, 2018, 05:38:42 pm
There's this song that gets played a lot on local radio at the moment. 2002 by uhh Anne something or other. It's an okay song, terrible music video (I regret checking).

The song is weird. It's about the year 2002, when the singer was 11. I don't even know if the writer of the song realised, but despite being released this year, the song is actually set in 2009. Basically: The first verse is about 2002, when the singer was 11, and is in past tense. Then the second verse is when she's 18, and is in present tense. So... yeah. It's set in 2009, despite being released this year.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on June 20, 2018, 08:42:42 am
Maybe it took 9 years to finish the song?

Stretching here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Donald X. on June 20, 2018, 01:40:04 pm
I was 21 years when I wrote this song
I'm 22 now but I won't be for long

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on June 20, 2018, 02:00:07 pm
I had fun with a learning module we're developing. It is superhero-themed. Spent an hour laughing maniacally and uttering villain lines if the learner chooses the side of evil.

I kind of worry that the training might be off a bit as people may choose the wrong answer just to hear what the villains are saying. Certainly more fun that the hero speeches.

And hey, I got to say rue. I rue the fact that we don't say rue enough times.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on June 20, 2018, 08:43:52 pm
It's also worth noting that the narrator in a song/poem need not be the same as the author.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Jimmmmm on June 21, 2018, 05:35:29 am
I rue the fact that we don't say rue enough times.

I feel like that's not how 'rue' is meant to be used...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on June 21, 2018, 08:55:59 am
I rue the fact that we don't say rue enough times.

I feel like that's not how 'rue' is meant to be used...

Yeah, well, and sauerkraut was not meant to be used as underwear insulation, yet here we are.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on June 21, 2018, 11:49:15 am
I rue the fact that we don't say rue enough times.

I feel like that's not how 'rue' is meant to be used...

Yeah, it's like he's on completely the wrong street.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on June 21, 2018, 11:16:57 pm
I was trying to reproduce code someone else wrote, and it called some object.log() function at one point, behind an if statement for if "log" is enabled.  You know, some debug logging.  I was just trying to reproduce a basic result that the original code could do, but I had a problem for ages and couldn't figure it out.  I finally realized that the log() function was actually computing a logarithm, and not debug logging...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on July 13, 2018, 04:12:12 pm
So, I had a random idea for a board game a few days ago, while trying to think of a good semi-mathsy game for the end of school term (still trying to think of something if anyone has ideas, only one week left now!). I think it might actually be... interesting, sorta. The following is a brief description, and likely vague because it's just an idea, but I'd like to know if people think it sounds reasonable. I'll add uncertainties in brackets.

The game takes place on a square grid (possibly with obstacles/holes/walls on it for interest). Players are trying to place as many tiles on the grid of their own... colour/symbol (since tiles are shared, not sure how this would be tracked easily). There is a random selection of available tiles which are replenished every time one is played, of varying shape and size. Some tiles have a special mark on them, allowing you to place them over other players/your own tiles, otherwise each tile must fit into its own space (maybe own space or over your own tiles only).

Not sure how this bit would work yet, but play would not be circular but rather using a quick bidding system. Players start with some number of counters (maybe 15) and can hold some number in their hand secretly each round to bid on getting a turn. Highest bid takes a turn, ties broken as closest player clockwise to last player who made a move. Somehow counters should be refreshed during the game - could be that counters are shared among other players (e.g. give your winning bid out one to each player clockwise until you run out) or similar. I'd probably need some extra mechanic to keep the game moving quickly, since having a bid every single round would be slow. Maybe the bids determine entire order of the round? I dunno yet.

Winner is the player at the end of the game who has the most territory covered. Or maybe some kind of points system - covering space earns points, achieving certain goals earns points, having counters left earns points etc.

Anyway, feel free to poke holes in the idea, suggest games that already have similar mechanics (I know it already has some similarity to Patchwork, a 2 player game by some prolific designer I've forgotten in the moment), or otherwise suggest things to make it not too stale. It'll probably go nowhere but ehh, maybe it's a nice idea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on July 13, 2018, 09:30:52 pm
I think you want some mechanic that gives long-term repercussions to tile placement, right now it sounds like where you place a tile is not important, as long as you actually placed it.

Can you place a tile partially covering other tiles? It’s not going to lat flat on the board if some of the spaces it’s covering already have a tile on them, while others don’t.

I am terrible at bidding games, so nothing to add there.

Blokus is an interesting tile placement game, if you haven’t heard of it.

EDIT: if I was making the game, I would do away with the bidding, and do something like:

6x6 board
A common pool of grey tiles, each being 2- or 3-spaces large. Three are available at any time, they get replenished as they are used.
Each player has a private pool of 4-space large tiles in their colour (think Tetris)

Each turn, a player places a grey tile, then they may place one of their own coloured tiles. Tiles can only be placed if all the spaces they cover are the same “height”. Grey tiles can only cover other grey tiles, or tiles from the active player. Player tiles can cover any colour, but they may not perfectly overlap another player’s tile.

Game ends when a player cannot place a grey tile during their turn or grey tile pool is exhausted. Players get one point per space covered by a tile in their colour.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on July 14, 2018, 05:30:21 am
Blokus is an interesting tile placement game, if you haven’t heard of it.

But I have heard of it, so is it interesting in this situation?

Anyway terrible logic jokes aside, you might be right about where you place a tile isn't too important - that's why I was considering there being points for objectives, e.g. building a 3x3 square is worth some amount of points, or making a continuous path from one side of the board to another, or other similar things.

Regarding the overlapping problem, what might be possible to do is something like... rather than placing the shapes onto the grid, you place 1x1 tiles based on e.g. the pattern on a card? That way if you can overlap someone, you just remove their tile and place your own, which is much easier to manage.

I do actually quite like the idea of there being a common gray and personal coloured pool. That could work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 07, 2018, 12:09:30 pm
My university (University of Eastern Finland) was/is under a pretty large scale phishing attack, which I found somewhat amusing and it also demonstrates a pretty important lesson about modern cyber security, so I thought I'd share the story.

The attackers sent out a bunch of phishing e-mails until someone opened the link (which was presumably a fake site that looked like the UEF login page) and gave them his/her login credentials. After that, the attackers were able to use that e-mail address to send out even more phishing e-mails whose sender appeared as "UEF Help Desk" with an uef.fi e-mail address, which made the e-mails a lot more convincing. All of this happened after the working hours, so it took the university a while to react to the attack, which they did by sending out an announcement by e-mail where they basically described what had happened and urged people to change their passwords. After the announcement, the attackers sent out a bunch of their own e-mails about how there had been phishing e-mails, with a link that you could click to change your password, presumably leading to the exact same fake site, as well as e-mails about suspicious activity from Brazil being detected on your account, also with a similar link.

This all started roughly 2 weeks ago from what I can tell, and according to a (real) announcement by the university today, it is likely that the attack is still ongoing. They haven't published an estimate about how many accounts have been compromised, but I, being a random student, have seen people get these fake e-mails from at least 10-20 different compromised UEF accounts so that's a very conservative lower bound. It's pretty easy for native Finnish speakers to get suspicious about these e-mails that contain very poor Finnish, but UEF has a lot of international transfer students who are very vulnerable to this kind of an attack, and in fact all of the different compromised accounts that I was able to confirm did belong to people with foreign-sounding names.

(https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120220.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 07, 2018, 03:59:22 pm
http://iplayif.com/?story=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifarchive.org%2Fif-archive%2Fgames%2Fzcode%2FAOTYRZ.z5

from the same guy who made the awesome trans-dimensional brainchip webcoming

I seem to be bad at this. I think most of the time there was something creative you ought to do and I didn't find it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Simon Jester on August 07, 2018, 04:43:32 pm
Ugh, I'm the worst at these. How do you escape yetis without shooting at them?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 07, 2018, 04:54:14 pm
http://iplayif.com/?story=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifarchive.org%2Fif-archive%2Fgames%2Fzcode%2FAOTYRZ.z5

from the same guy who made the awesome trans-dimensional brainchip webcoming

I seem to be bad at this. I think most of the time there was something creative you ought to do and I didn't find it.

I had to undo twice (once because I accidentally did something I didn't mean to do in the first place unlocked a door that I had just locked, not realizing it was the same door, and once because of a game over). I'm usually bad at these types of games, but I feel like this one worked the way I expected almost every time.

Ugh, I'm the worst at these. How do you escape yetis without shooting at them?

You don't. I think there are two opportunities to deal with a yeti before it catches you, and you have to take at least one of them in order to not run out of bullets.

EDIT: that's actually wrong, there must be more opportunities to deal with yetis without having them catch you according to the "amusing things to do" option after the game but I haven't figured out more than two so far

EDIT 2: I figured out another one!

EDIT 3: Figured out another one!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on August 07, 2018, 05:16:22 pm
I actually managed to beat it first try with one shot left. It's not too difficult, but the challenge to try to do it on your first try is what ups the stakes, because you aren't sure whether you still have time to figure out the solution, or if the yeti is about to kill you.

You do need to shoot at least two times    to beat the game. I managed to "perfect" it on my second try, was fun :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 07, 2018, 05:27:29 pm
I actually managed to beat it first try with one shot left. It's not too difficult, but the challenge to try to do it on your first try is what ups the stakes, because you aren't sure whether you still have time to figure out the solution, or if the yeti is about to kill you.

You do need to shoot at least two times    to beat the game. I managed to "perfect" it on my second try, was fun :)

Yeah it's very easy to beat if you use undo. I also just figured out the remaining way to save a bullet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 08, 2018, 03:17:17 am
guah I made it on the third try with zero shots left  :'(
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on August 08, 2018, 10:09:00 am
guah I made it on the third try with zero shots left  :'(

Do you want tips?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 08, 2018, 11:09:35 am
I'd like to know what you can do about the thin and fat yeti. the fact that they're thin and fat has to mean something, but I couldn't think of a way to use it. On the third try I went into another room and waited a while, then one of them was gone and I had to use only one shot instead of two, but I'm assuming there's a better way.

Also about the boss, what non-shooting thing can you do besides using the coffee?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 08, 2018, 12:36:15 pm
I'd like to know what you can do about the thin and fat yeti. the fact that they're thin and fat has to mean something, but I couldn't think of a way to use it. On the third try I went into another room and waited a while, then one of them was gone and I had to use only one shot instead of two, but I'm assuming there's a better way.

Also about the boss, what non-shooting thing can you do besides using the coffee?


1) There isn't, that's one of the two scenes where you actually have to use a shot.
2) You can push the bookshelf on him and push the chair out of the window.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on August 08, 2018, 12:38:11 pm
A bit less spoilerific than Awaclus, who gave away the answer:

If you have finished the game, you know that you need to shoot at least twice to beat it. As far as I could tell, the only reason those two yetis are different is so that you can specify which one you are shooting if both follow you to the chopper, but I may be wrong.

As far as the boss, you can beat him without shooting even once. Check the description of his room a bit more closely. There is unfortunately some guess-the-verb involved but nothing too bad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 08, 2018, 12:57:21 pm
I actually did try to push over the bookshelf, and it didn't work. I must have used the wrong verb. I didn't try using the chair, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: schadd on August 10, 2018, 10:32:03 pm
kuildeous r u married? @kuildeous
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 13, 2018, 09:43:08 am
kuildeous r u married? @kuildeous

Yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 13, 2018, 09:43:14 am
Argh! My one weakness: A stupid Facebook message with people answering a simple math problem by applying addition before multiplication. Why can't I quit you?

This time, it's a screen shot of a poll asking people to answer 2+2*4.Not only did a distressing majority answer that the correct answer is 16, but the correct answer isn't even listed in the poll. I'm suspecting a troll poll. Then there's a caption that wonders if it's scarier that so many people answered 13 as the correct answer. I can actually see that. It's the closest to the real answer, so these are likely all people trying to point to the correct answer. At least I really hope so.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: faust on August 13, 2018, 10:04:55 am
This time, it's a screen shot of a poll asking people to answer 2+2*4.Not only did a distressing majority answer that the correct answer is 16, but the correct answer isn't even listed in the poll. I'm suspecting a troll poll. Then there's a caption that wonders if it's scarier that so many people answered 13 as the correct answer. I can actually see that. It's the closest to the real answer, so these are likely all people trying to point to the correct answer. At least I really hope so.
I'm going to assume that those were all physicists.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on August 13, 2018, 09:47:51 pm
Obviously, those people knew that

x*y = y/x^2 + xy + x.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 14, 2018, 08:54:54 am
Obviously, those people knew that

x*y = y/x^2 + xy + x.

I'm pretty sure I'm seeing some cleverness happening, but I fear it may be too inside of a joke for it to register with me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on August 14, 2018, 12:25:09 pm
Obviously, those people knew that

x*y = y/x^2 + xy + x.

I'm pretty sure I'm seeing some cleverness happening, but I fear it may be too inside of a joke for it to register with me.

x=2, y=4, Witherweaver is suggesting * from 2+2*4 is a relation, mapping (x,y) to y/x^2 + xy + x. So 2*4 = 4/2^2 + 2*4 + 2 = 11, and hence 2+2*4 = 13

Less of an inside joke and more just a subtle mathematical one. Well played Witherweaver.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 14, 2018, 01:12:29 pm
Obviously, those people knew that

x*y = y/x^2 + xy + x.

I'm pretty sure I'm seeing some cleverness happening, but I fear it may be too inside of a joke for it to register with me.

x=2, y=4, Witherweaver is suggesting * from 2+2*4 is a relation, mapping (x,y) to y/x^2 + xy + x. So 2*4 = 4/2^2 + 2*4 + 2 = 11, and hence 2+2*4 = 13

Less of an inside joke and more just a subtle mathematical one. Well played Witherweaver.

Ah, I didn't realize he was justifying the answer as 13. Very nice indeed now that I am aware of that.

Recent Facebook hell now has me scrolling through answers for the question of how much money did a store owner lose if you stole a $100 bill from the register and then used that bill to buy $70 worth of merchandise. I'm more forgiving of this one because for some people, it can be tricky to follow along. At least it's not flat-out ignoring order of operations.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 14, 2018, 02:17:27 pm
Recent Facebook hell now has me scrolling through answers for the question of how much money did a store owner lose if you stole a $100 bill from the register and then used that bill to buy $70 worth of merchandise. I'm more forgiving of this one because for some people, it can be tricky to follow along. At least it's not flat-out ignoring order of operations.

Well, you can't give an accurate answer to that question if that's the only information you are given. Does the money in the register belong to the store owner and is the store owner directly gaining all profits from sales? If not, how much does stealing the $100 correlate with the store owner getting paid less, and likewise for the profits? Were you going to buy that merch anyway or did you only buy it because you had an extra $100 after stealing it? If you weren't going to buy it anyway, was someone else going to buy it anyway or was it just going to sit there? If someone else was going to buy it anyway, but at a later date, what is the inflation rate? If you bought $70 "worth" of merch, presumably that means you're paying $70 for it but the store probably paid less than $70, so how much did the store have to pay for the merch? Depending on the answers to these questions, the store owner could lose anywhere between nothing and $100.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 14, 2018, 02:50:21 pm
Drop the owner part. How much did the store lose?

The markup is an important distinction, though lost revenue is a thing, but just like many textbook questions, this doesn't figure into the calculation.

My favorite is the woman who talked herself into stating that the store lost $270. Her being wrong was nothing special, but the magnitude in which she was wrong is pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Donald X. on August 14, 2018, 03:12:40 pm
Paul Erdos refused to believe the solution to the Monty Hall problem.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: alinatolm on August 14, 2018, 04:08:19 pm
Posting to avoid captcha
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 14, 2018, 04:54:59 pm
Paul Erdos refused to believe the solution to the Monty Hall problem.

A lot of academics refused to believe it as well:
http://marilynvossavant.com/game-show-problem/

I didn't accept it at first either, but I at least wasn't a petulant little dick about it.

I ate crow when someone suggested expanding the puzzle to 1000 doors. Made me re-examine the math while acknowledging my blinders.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 14, 2018, 05:16:45 pm
Posting to avoid captcha

Perhaps the most random of all first posts. Welcome!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 14, 2018, 05:25:13 pm
Drop the owner part. How much did the store lose?

The markup is an important distinction, though lost revenue is a thing, but just like many textbook questions, this doesn't figure into the calculation.

My favorite is the woman who talked herself into stating that the store lost $270. Her being wrong was nothing special, but the magnitude in which she was wrong is pretty amazing.

Even ignoring the salary vs profit bits; it IS necessary to know if money gained by selling stuff counts as actual money gained; or whether it only counts as transferring assets from goods to cash.

In other words, if the theft hadn't happened, and someone walked in and bought $70 worth of stuff, would we say that the store made $70? There's 3 equally valid answers to that question:

1. The store made $70, because it has $70 more cash now than before.
2. The store didn't make anything, because although it has $70 more cash, it no longer has the items that could be sold for $70.
3. The store made whatever profit was made depending on the cost basis of the goods that were sold. So more than $0 but less than $70.

Which of the 3 answers you give to that question will determine the answer to "how much did the store lose in the theft?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 14, 2018, 05:47:23 pm
Posting to avoid captcha

Perhaps the most random of all first posts. Welcome!

Well, it would be a pretty random first post, but it's a pretty common third post when the others are in Forum Games.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on August 14, 2018, 05:49:59 pm
Paul Erdos refused to believe the solution to the Monty Hall problem.

A lot of academics refused to believe it as well:
http://marilynvossavant.com/game-show-problem/

I didn't accept it at first either, but I at least wasn't a petulant little dick about it.

I ate crow when someone suggested expanding the puzzle to 1000 doors. Made me re-examine the math while acknowledging my blinders.

I still think it makes much more sense to ask what the probability is when you first pick, and realize that that probability doesn't change when the host opens another door.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 14, 2018, 06:00:46 pm
Paul Erdos refused to believe the solution to the Monty Hall problem.

A lot of academics refused to believe it as well:
http://marilynvossavant.com/game-show-problem/

I didn't accept it at first either, but I at least wasn't a petulant little dick about it.

I ate crow when someone suggested expanding the puzzle to 1000 doors. Made me re-examine the math while acknowledging my blinders.

I still think it makes much more sense to ask what the probability is when you first pick, and realize that that probability doesn't change when the host opens another door.

But the exact problem is that so many people's intuition tells them that the probability does change as a result of getting new information. The trick is to make them realize that they didn't actually get new (meaningful) information.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Donald X. on August 14, 2018, 06:36:34 pm
But you can just iterate through the cases. However counterintuitive it is, there's your answer. Why wasn't that enough for Erdos? It's a sad comment on how people work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: ConMan on August 14, 2018, 07:29:43 pm
The one that I prefer is to rephrase the problem - you pick a door, then Monty asks you whether you want what's behind your door, or what's behind both other doors. Assuming the goat has zero value to you, then it winds up being the same result, which means you definitely get twice the chance of winning if you swap.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on August 14, 2018, 07:54:42 pm
The funny thing is that, if the door that is revealed to have a goat was chosen randomly, then it doesn’t make any difference whether you swap doors or not, you have a 50% chance either way. It’s only because the host guarantees that he will open a door with a goat behind it that the odds are skewed in favour of swapping doors.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on August 14, 2018, 09:08:22 pm
I once had an internship at this tech company, and the IT guy was trying to convince me that since it could either rain or not rain (two outcomes), the chance of rain was always 50% and weather reports were nonsense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 15, 2018, 03:08:11 am
The funny thing is that, if the door that is revealed to have a goat was chosen randomly, then it doesn’t make any difference whether you swap doors or not, you have a 50% chance either way. It’s only because the host guarantees that he will open a door with a goat behind it that the odds are skewed in favour of swapping doors.

*upvote*

That's exactly right. And if it is unspecified how the door was chosen, the problem actually doesn't have a right answer. Wikipedia acknowledges this (at least by now).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: infangthief on August 15, 2018, 07:50:16 am
I once had an internship at this tech company, and the IT guy was trying to convince me that since it could either rain or not rain (two outcomes), the chance of rain was always 50% and weather reports were nonsense.
You can extend that kind of reasoning to prove that there is life outside our galaxy.
Chance of Cows outside our galaxy? Don't really know, two options, call it 50%.
Chance of Pigs? 50%
Chance of Trees? 50%
...
Chance of lifeform n? 50%

Chance of none of them? Well that would be (0.5)^n, which tends to 0 as n increases.
Therefore it's pretty much certain there's at least one lifeform existing outside our galaxy... what do you mean 'they're not independent'?!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 15, 2018, 09:14:54 am
The funny thing is that, if the door that is revealed to have a goat was chosen randomly, then it doesn’t make any difference whether you swap doors or not, you have a 50% chance either way. It’s only because the host guarantees that he will open a door with a goat behind it that the odds are skewed in favour of swapping doors.

*upvote*

That's exactly right. And if it is unspecified how the door was chosen, the problem actually doesn't have a right answer. Wikipedia acknowledges this (at least by now).

There are reasonable assumptions you can make though. The puzzle presumes that this always happens in all scenarios. Since 2/3 of the scenarios would involve having the car behind one of the two doors, the revealed goat cannot be randomly chosen.

But if the scenario is such that the car can be revealed by the host, then that does imply that the door is chosen randomly.

It boils down to whether there are reasonable assumptions for the puzzle. Since this is based on a real event, has there ever been a case where the host reveals the car?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 15, 2018, 09:19:08 am
I still think it makes much more sense to ask what the probability is when you first pick, and realize that that probability doesn't change when the host opens another door.


I agree that it makes sense, but it isn't intuitive for many people. Even I refused to believe it. The math was right in front of me, but I was so certain I was right that I was ignoring what made sense and looked for evidence supporting my belief (so pretty much human politics). It took the hyperbole of several doors to make me question those beliefs and re-examine the probability. I was a lot more accepting of it at that point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: infangthief on August 15, 2018, 09:57:22 am
The funny thing is that, if the door that is revealed to have a goat was chosen randomly, then it doesn’t make any difference whether you swap doors or not, you have a 50% chance either way. It’s only because the host guarantees that he will open a door with a goat behind it that the odds are skewed in favour of swapping doors.

*upvote*

That's exactly right. And if it is unspecified how the door was chosen, the problem actually doesn't have a right answer. Wikipedia acknowledges this (at least by now).

There are reasonable assumptions you can make though. The puzzle presumes that this always happens in all scenarios. Since 2/3 of the scenarios would involve having the car behind one of the two doors, the revealed goat cannot be randomly chosen.

But if the scenario is such that the car can be revealed by the host, then that does imply that the door is chosen randomly.

It boils down to whether there are reasonable assumptions for the puzzle. Since this is based on a real event, has there ever been a case where the host reveals the car?

It's the difference between the host saying:
(i) "I'm going to open this door here... oh look, there's a goat, that's interesting."
(ii) "I'm going to open this door here which has a goat behind it."

True, the host does always reveal a goat, so they are in fact doing (ii), but it might not be clear to a first-time viewer whether the host is doing (i) or (ii).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on August 15, 2018, 10:10:44 am
I once had an internship at this tech company, and the IT guy was trying to convince me that since it could either rain or not rain (two outcomes), the chance of rain was always 50% and weather reports were nonsense.
You can extend that kind of reasoning to prove that there is life outside our galaxy.
Chance of Cows outside our galaxy? Don't really know, two options, call it 50%.
Chance of Pigs? 50%
Chance of Trees? 50%
...
Chance of lifeform n? 50%

Chance of none of them? Well that would be (0.5)^n, which tends to 0 as n increases.
Therefore it's pretty much certain there's at least one lifeform existing outside our galaxy... what do you mean 'they're not independent'?!

No, you see, because our two options are whether there is life or not, it's just 50%!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 15, 2018, 10:12:39 am
Is it wrong of me to want to change every reference of Chester A Arthur to Chester an Arthur?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on August 15, 2018, 07:03:56 pm
Does anybody have suggestions on things like Skype that are entirely browser based?  When I google I just get things like chat roulettes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 15, 2018, 07:53:25 pm
Does anybody have suggestions on things like Skype that are entirely browser based?  When I google I just get things like chat roulettes.

You can use IRC with a web client.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: sudgy on August 15, 2018, 08:58:09 pm
Does anybody have suggestions on things like Skype that are entirely browser based?  When I google I just get things like chat roulettes.

You can use IRC with a web client.

IRC has video chat?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Mic Qsenoch on August 15, 2018, 10:33:26 pm
Does anybody have suggestions on things like Skype that are entirely browser based?  When I google I just get things like chat roulettes.

Well there's web.skype.com, or Google Hangouts.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: jsh357 on August 16, 2018, 08:05:13 am
You can use discord entirely in browser. (That's what I do)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 16, 2018, 10:26:42 am
The funny thing is that, if the door that is revealed to have a goat was chosen randomly, then it doesn’t make any difference whether you swap doors or not, you have a 50% chance either way. It’s only because the host guarantees that he will open a door with a goat behind it that the odds are skewed in favour of swapping doors.

Right, this is the premise behind Deal or No Deal. Because each chest is opened randomly, you actually do gain new information with each opened chest, and the expected worth of your chest changes each time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 16, 2018, 11:36:00 am
Right, this is the premise behind Deal or No Deal. Because each chest is opened randomly, you actually do gain new information with each opened chest, and the expected worth of your chest changes each time.

And the mathiness of Deal or No Deal is pretty neat too. Not as controversial as Let's Make a Deal obviously.

Fun fact: I happened across the show while flipping channels and got sucked in by mistake. The contestant was deciding which box to open, and her family was behind her encouraging her to take her time in making such an important decision. So much math rage that day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 16, 2018, 11:42:45 am
Right, this is the premise behind Deal or No Deal. Because each chest is opened randomly, you actually do gain new information with each opened chest, and the expected worth of your chest changes each time.

And the mathiness of Deal or No Deal is pretty neat too. Not as controversial as Let's Make a Deal obviously.

Fun fact: I happened across the show while flipping channels and got sucked in by mistake. The contestant was deciding which box to open, and her family was behind her encouraging her to take her time in making such an important decision. So much math rage that day.

I think those types of things are more people being bad with superstition than people being bad with math. They feel like a certain number is a lucky winner (or loser); not that a certain number actually has a mathematically better chance.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Uncleeurope on August 16, 2018, 02:25:24 pm
Hi, I am using this thread to unlock my full potential as a forum user.

To distract you from my true purpose I will distract you with a depressing thought:

The average person spends 6 months of their lifetime waiting on a red light to turn green.

Now I will back myself out of this conversation...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 16, 2018, 03:01:28 pm
Hi, I am using this thread to unlock my full potential as a forum user.

To distract you from my true purpose I will distract you with a depressing thought:

The average person spends 6 months of their lifetime waiting on a red light to turn green.

Now I will back myself out of this conversation...

I've already spent 9½ months of my lifetime shitposting on f.ds, it's not that depressing in comparison.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: fisherman on August 16, 2018, 03:16:35 pm

The average person spends 6 months of their lifetime waiting on a red light to turn green.



Once we waited for a stop sign to turn green...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 16, 2018, 03:22:52 pm
That's almost certainly untrue when taken literally. The median person doesn't own a car. It might be true when we restrict it to just a few regions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 16, 2018, 03:28:35 pm
That's almost certainly untrue when taken literally. The median person doesn't own a car. It might be true when we restrict it to just a few regions.

Pedestrians also wait for red lights to turn green.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 16, 2018, 03:30:08 pm
Last night I sat for about 9 minutes at a red light. Not just what felt like 9 minutes, I actually started timing it after a couple minutes. The sensor or whatever was broken; eventually a car pulled up behind me, and the light changed almost right after they arrived.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: jsh357 on August 17, 2018, 10:42:49 am
The sensors are located about a car length back at certain intersections. Sometimes it's optimal to back up if you are the only one waiting to turn.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 17, 2018, 10:57:36 am
The sensors are located about a car length back at certain intersections. Sometimes it's optimal to back up if you are the only one waiting to turn.

Yeah, I was getting ready to try that when I saw the other car approaching.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on August 19, 2018, 10:42:01 pm
Last night I sat for about 9 minutes at a red light. Not just what felt like 9 minutes, I actually started timing it after a couple minutes. The sensor or whatever was broken; eventually a car pulled up behind me, and the light changed almost right after they arrived.

Maybe you're a cop in Fargo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on August 21, 2018, 06:49:40 pm
Anyone else in here a Pokemon Go player? In particular, any of the Mafia bunch I actually kind of know? :-)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 22, 2018, 08:54:43 am
Anyone else in here a Pokemon Go player? In particular, any of the Mafia bunch I actually kind of know? :-)

I don't play Mafia, so I'm not part of your crew, but I'm doing Pokemon Go. Not as serious as others, but the research gets me more involved than before.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 22, 2018, 01:38:02 pm
Random news: Maduro is removing 99,999% of all money out of the country! (i.e. he's removing 5 zeros from every bill).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pingpongsam on August 22, 2018, 03:35:06 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.
Fun fact: newborn babies can breathe through their noses while suckling using their mouths. We lose this ability at some point later.

So, I'm the only adult who can drink water continuously and breathe through my nose at the same time?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 22, 2018, 03:54:00 pm
You can breathe while swallowing?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 22, 2018, 03:59:16 pm
Does anyone think it's odd that our mouths are used for so many functions? If you were going to design a person would you have separate facilities for eating, breathing, speaking, etc. Also I feel like we could end up just dropping verbal speech.
Fun fact: newborn babies can breathe through their noses while suckling using their mouths. We lose this ability at some point later.

So, I'm the only adult who can drink water continuously and breathe through my nose at the same time?

Well, this sample size of 1 cannot maintain that over here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 23, 2018, 06:20:14 am
So Elon musk supposedly has done an hour long interview with the NYT about stuff.

I tried to find the actual interview. What I found was countless articles talking about it and how people reacted to it and what have you. I also found lots of articles claiming that the NYT published the actual interview. The sentence then links to another whatever article of the NYT where some snippets of the interview are quoted, but not to the actual interview.

Either I am for some reason incapable of finding the supposedly available interview or it hasn't in fact been published. If so then every article claiming it has been published is total bullshit. Are they all just making stuff up? This is so stupid. I'm so frustrated right now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pingpongsam on August 23, 2018, 10:54:08 am
You can breathe while swallowing?

Yeah, I just tried it to be certain. It requires some concentration and I'm pretty sure I can only do it from a bottle like container where there is a very small opening and the flow is relatively small and easily controlled. I essentially just pour the liquid down my throat and breathe through my nose. I think with some practice I could possibly even breathe through my mouth while doing it. The basic idea is to pour the water down the esophagus while breathing through the trachea. Complications occur when liquid enters the trachea or the swallowing action of the esophagus closes off the trachea. Both complications can be mitigated with some concentration.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on August 23, 2018, 11:02:34 am
I assume you are alternating breathing and swallowing? Not actually doing both at the same time? Like, water might be continually flowing into your mouth, but it’s only being swallowed intermittently.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Dsell on August 23, 2018, 11:44:19 am
GendoIkari has 6969 posts on the forum.

Nice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Tables on August 24, 2018, 03:59:09 am
After a discussion with my girlfriend, we did some calculations and concluded that the circumference of the Earth is approximately 300 megapenises. Just thought you should all know.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on August 24, 2018, 04:33:19 am
After a discussion with my girlfriend, we did some calculations and concluded that the circumference of the Earth is approximately 300 megapenises. Just thought you should all know.

Or 300 000 000 000 000 micropenises.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 24, 2018, 08:51:36 am
After a discussion with my girlfriend, we did some calculations and concluded that the circumference of the Earth is approximately 300 megapenises. Just thought you should all know.

Damn metric system. Everyone knows that it just makes more sense to explain 300 megapenises as 849 omniscrotes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Dsell on August 24, 2018, 09:20:20 am
Goomba is a micropenis.

(https://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/9/9c/Goomba_-_MarioPartyStarRush.png/518px-Goomba_-_MarioPartyStarRush.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Asper on August 24, 2018, 09:34:05 am
I was going to talk about Super Smash Bros Ultimate and how I'm hyped for the game since the inclusion of King K. Rool from the Donkey Kong Country series. Now the topic of Nintendo suddenly seems gross. Dsell, I would appreciate if you took your porn elsewhere.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Dsell on August 24, 2018, 09:37:17 am
Now the topic of Nintendo suddenly seems gross.

What's your problem with micropenises?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: pacovf on August 24, 2018, 10:21:01 am
I was going to talk about Super Smash Bros Ultimate and how I'm hyped for the game since the inclusion of King K. Rool from the Donkey Kong Country series. Now the topic of Nintendo suddenly seems gross. Dsell, I would appreciate if you took your porn elsewhere.

I am excited for Ridley!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Asper on August 24, 2018, 10:47:56 am
Now the topic of Nintendo suddenly seems gross.

What's your problem with micropenises?

Why is everybody asking me that these days?

I was going to talk about Super Smash Bros Ultimate and how I'm hyped for the game since the inclusion of King K. Rool from the Donkey Kong Country series. Now the topic of Nintendo suddenly seems gross. Dsell, I would appreciate if you took your porn elsewhere.

I am excited for Ridley!

Yes, me too! Ridley's inclusion was the point where I realized that they really mean it with that "Everyone is here" catchphrase.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 24, 2018, 12:05:49 pm
GendoIkari has 6969 posts on the forum.

Nice.

Just saw this. And apparently posted many more times before I did.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on August 24, 2018, 12:22:59 pm
I'm in so many meetings this morning that I accidentally sat in on one that turns out I was not invited to. I realized their conversation was not relevant to me and slinked out to return for the next meeting.

This is why I won't pursue management. Managers get stuck in meetings and shit.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Dsell on August 24, 2018, 01:49:08 pm
Tonight I'm going to eat at the restaurant that Bon Appetit just named America's Best New restaurant of 2018 (http://projects.bonappetit.com/hot10/p/1).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: GendoIkari on August 30, 2018, 02:55:19 pm
Theory has just passed me for second most threads created.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on August 30, 2018, 07:15:10 pm
I just realized how fucked up it is that if, in the Harry Potter universe, you get thrown out of school, you aren't allowed to use magic again for the rest of your life. In reality, this would just make these people leave the country.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Witherweaver on August 31, 2018, 07:13:18 am
I found today's xkcd appropriate for this forum:

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/begging_the_question.png) (https://xkcd.com/2039/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Puk on September 07, 2018, 06:18:42 pm
This time next week I'm in Scotland
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on September 19, 2018, 09:28:24 am
Had a talk with someone about how in a couple of decades, people will be able to fairly accurately guess someone's age by which Star Wars films they saw first.

This got us talking about other benchmarks to measure someone's age.

First Batman
First James Bond
First Doctor
First Tim Currey character

Though my measure of Doctor is a bit off because I didn't start watching until Matt Smith. If I had watched Doctor Who as a youth, I'm sure Tom Baker would be my first. Doctor Who isn't quite as mainstream as the other benchmarks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on September 19, 2018, 10:20:53 am
This got us talking about other benchmarks to measure someone's age.

First Batman
First James Bond
First Doctor
First Tim Currey character

The Dark Knight
None
What's that?
Who's Tim Currey?

So how old am I?  :D
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: theorel on September 19, 2018, 11:55:38 am
Had a talk with someone about how in a couple of decades, people will be able to fairly accurately guess someone's age by which Star Wars films they saw first.

This got us talking about other benchmarks to measure someone's age.

First Batman
First James Bond
First Doctor
First Tim Currey character

Though my measure of Doctor is a bit off because I didn't start watching until Matt Smith. If I had watched Doctor Who as a youth, I'm sure Tom Baker would be my first. Doctor Who isn't quite as mainstream as the other benchmarks.
Hey, I can actually answer those...that's not normal for these kind of measures for me.  I'll be a test subject for the accuracy of this age-measure:
Keaton (the Batman)
Brosnan (Goldeneye)
Eccleston
Butler in Clue
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on September 19, 2018, 12:43:43 pm
It's:

Christopher Nolan
N/A (Never seen any Bond)
Christopher Eccleston
Hunt for Red October
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Awaclus on September 19, 2018, 01:06:22 pm
Had a talk with someone about how in a couple of decades, people will be able to fairly accurately guess someone's age by which Star Wars films they saw first.

This got us talking about other benchmarks to measure someone's age.

First Batman
First James Bond
First Doctor
First Tim Currey character

Though my measure of Doctor is a bit off because I didn't start watching until Matt Smith. If I had watched Doctor Who as a youth, I'm sure Tom Baker would be my first. Doctor Who isn't quite as mainstream as the other benchmarks.

Batman Begins
Casino Royale
Haven't seen Doctor Who
Cardinal Richelieu
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: SpaceAnemone on September 19, 2018, 01:24:20 pm
Had a talk with someone about how in a couple of decades, people will be able to fairly accurately guess someone's age by which Star Wars films they saw first.

This got us talking about other benchmarks to measure someone's age.

First Batman
First James Bond
First Doctor
First Tim Currey character

Though my measure of Doctor is a bit off because I didn't start watching until Matt Smith. If I had watched Doctor Who as a youth, I'm sure Tom Baker would be my first. Doctor Who isn't quite as mainstream as the other benchmarks.

Your idea of mainstream is probably a bit culturally-dependent! The Doctor one is the only thing I think might date me accurately, since I don't particularly care about Batman, and was familiar with Bond mainly from TV re-runs than any current films as a kid. Like silver, my first thought for Tim Curry was "who's that?", though looking at pics, I admit he's a familiar face.. I'm just not sure where he's familiar from!

How come "which Star Trek were you most into growing up" doesn't make the list?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on September 19, 2018, 02:52:41 pm
How come "which Star Trek were you most into growing up" doesn't make the list?

That's another good option. Plenty of good options out there, especially when you have to rule out certain lists because someone hasn't been involved with that (such as Bond). Could also include first Stephen King movie, first Disney cartoon, and first time being excited about the Super Bowl.

Though now looking at the answers, I feel kind of old because my list is more like:
Star Wars: A New Hope
Batman: Adam West
Bond: Roger Moore
Doctor: Matt Smith
Curry: Annie, technically, though I didn't know him until Rocky Horror
Star Trek: Kirk
Stephen King: The Shining
Disney cartoon: Harder than I thought; probably Sleeping Beauty
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Cuzz on September 19, 2018, 02:56:55 pm
I just gave Donald X his 20,000th respect
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Kuildeous on October 10, 2018, 03:49:48 pm
My job duties have switched to being the resource coordinator. I assign training programs to certain rooms and qualified trainers. It's an interesting jigsaw puzzle, especially when I have multiple programs vying for the same trainers. But I do fairly well at it.

The new manager of the trainers was astounded at how I was able to move swaths of training around to accommodate these requests. I was about to tell her it's what I do in my spare time, but I stopped myself because that seemed weird to say.

Then I realized why I wanted to say it. It literally is what I do in my spare time because I'll play resource-management games a lot. And worker placement, though that is not quite as relevant as the name suggests. All those nights maximizing my points in Terraforming Mars and Power Grid have prepared me for my current job. Thanks, board games!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on October 12, 2018, 06:53:10 pm
This is one of the least plausible apparently true things I've ever seen

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmC78xpU4AAEeLN.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on October 13, 2018, 07:51:26 am
There's an explanation here (http://schmid-werren.ch/hanspeter/publications/2014elemath.pdf) but it's not easy to understand
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Asper on October 13, 2018, 09:37:05 am
This is one of the least plausible apparently true things I've ever seen

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmC78xpU4AAEeLN.jpg)

"True" is such a strong word when talking about math. It's a man-made system to reflect nature and, while less confusing than e.g. roman numbers, it still has some ugly wrinkles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: schadd on October 13, 2018, 02:04:11 pm
kuildeous r u married? @kuildeous

Yes.
congrats dude!!!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: Titandrake on October 13, 2018, 10:50:06 pm
This is one of the least plausible apparently true things I've ever seen

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmC78xpU4AAEeLN.jpg)

This is one of my favorite "are you kidding me the pattern breaks down" examples. I've never looked into why exactly it breaks down, but basically it happens because 1 + 1/3 + 1/5 + ... + 1/13 < 2 and 1+ 1/3 + 1/5 + ... + 1/15 > 2. If I remember it right, you can use any arbitrary sequence of positive real numbers that aren't increasing, and it'll evaluate to pi/2 if they sum to < 2 and something else if they don't. Not only does this pattern not hold, it lets you create arbitrary length sequences where the pattern holds for k terms and then fails on the k+1 term.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part IV
Post by: silverspawn on October 14, 2018, 12:55:54 pm
This is one of my favorite "are you kidding me the pattern breaks down" examples. I've never looked into why exactly it breaks down, but basically it happens because 1 + 1/3 + 1/5 + ... + 1/13 < 2 and 1+ 1/3 + 1/5 + ... + 1/15 > 2.

That was the only thing I took away from the longer explanation I skimmed. But I wouldn't use the term 'because' here. The fact that the integral isn't off in the other direction for sums < 2, but is exactly pi/2 for sums < 2 and off for sums > 2 feels only slightly less insane than the original result, at least for me.

(At one point there was some talk in this thread about patterns that break down late, but those didn't seem as counter-intuitive as this one.)