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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: ehunt on December 11, 2017, 09:48:04 pm

Title: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: ehunt on December 11, 2017, 09:48:04 pm
i'll start

Ghost is good but it's so much work to get with either haunted mirror or exorcist. in the former case the fact that there's only one can be really painful. I'm just not sure ghost is worth it. Still, really good card.

Wishes on the other hand, man, that magic lamp.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: ehunt on December 11, 2017, 11:55:21 pm
also, night watchman is literally scout. they are synonyms.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: enfynet on December 11, 2017, 11:59:46 pm
I would say Night Watchman is closer to Cartographer than Scout. It discards unwanted cards, it doesn't put them into your hand.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: Limetime on December 12, 2017, 01:23:50 am
Nightwatchman is closest to scouting party but a bit better. You can use it to topdeck cards you bought on your turn if you draw deck.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: greybirdofprey on December 12, 2017, 07:23:52 am
My big Nocturne secret: I don't have Nocturne because it hasn't been released in Dutch yet.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: JThorne on December 12, 2017, 10:57:51 am
Maybe it's not a big secret, but so far every single game that I've played where Changeling has appeared there has been some cute trick that you could do with it.

Silver gainers

Hard-to-purchase Alchemy cards

On-gain effects for cards you don't actually want (IGG FTW.)

Careful with Blessed village, though. If you get any of the gaining boons, they cover up the BV and the lose-track rule means you can't exchange it for a Changeling.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: Dingan on December 12, 2017, 12:20:23 pm
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/8/8d/Secret_Cave.jpg)
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: ackmondual on December 13, 2017, 03:03:06 am
Ghost is the new Golem

I keep forgetting Deluded and Envious are mutually exclusive!  First appearance of the double sided card!
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: Accatitippi on December 13, 2017, 03:34:26 am
I don't usually track the hexes, but I usually end up wishing I did.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: William Howard Taft on December 13, 2017, 03:43:39 am
Buy Shepard and victory cards.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: Seprix on December 16, 2017, 09:16:33 pm
also, night watchman is literally scout. they are synonyms.

Lie.

Ghost is the new Golem

Interesting.

Buy Shepard and victory cards.

Sometimes.

I don't usually track the hexes, but I usually end up wishing I did.

Probably.

Nightwatchman is closest to scouting party but a bit better. You can use it to topdeck cards you bought on your turn if you draw deck.

True.

A well kept secret: Tracker is a lot better than you think.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: Awaclus on December 17, 2017, 05:22:02 am
If you open Silver/Night Watchman, it guarantees $5 on turn 3 ($6 on 4/3 opening). Potion/NW guarantees $4P. In general, your turn 3 hand is guaranteed to be your turn 1 hand with a card of your choice replaced with your turn 1 buy.

I don't think Scout does that.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: JThorne on December 20, 2017, 05:31:46 pm
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A well kept secret: Tracker is a lot better than you think.

This.

The ability to topdeck complementary cards, or even full-on combos, in a kingdom with extra gains/buys can be explosive; much more so than having to come up with a bunch of extra cash for Traveling Fairs.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: enfynet on December 21, 2017, 12:34:02 am
Pulling Vampire from the Black Market deck means it can't be exchanged, so it never turns into a Bat. My opponent wasn't a fan of that move.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: Kirian on December 21, 2017, 01:32:12 am
Ghost is really awful if you're drawing your deck.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: J Reggie on December 21, 2017, 01:38:43 am
Ghost is really awful if you're drawing your deck.

Not if you buy action cards!
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: faust on December 21, 2017, 01:53:13 am
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A well kept secret: Tracker is a lot better than you think.

This.

The ability to topdeck complementary cards, or even full-on combos, in a kingdom with extra gains/buys can be explosive; much more so than having to come up with a bunch of extra cash for Traveling Fairs.
Watchtower is still the better way to do it.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: JThorne on December 21, 2017, 10:49:08 am
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Watchtower is still the better way to do it.

Because you don't have to use an action, or because its reaction is also useful? Tracker has its advantages: It gives $1 or $2 in economy, and it comes pre-packaged with the +buy.
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: ehunt on January 22, 2018, 11:01:15 pm
also, night watchman is literally scout. they are synonyms.

ok this was dumb night watchman is way better than scout
Title: Re: list your big nocturne secrets
Post by: Chris is me on January 23, 2018, 06:06:18 am
Maybe it's not a big secret, but so far every single game that I've played where Changeling has appeared there has been some cute trick that you could do with it.

Silver gainers

Hard-to-purchase Alchemy cards

On-gain effects for cards you don't actually want (IGG FTW.)

Careful with Blessed village, though. If you get any of the gaining boons, they cover up the BV and the lose-track rule means you can't exchange it for a Changeling.

If you Exchange first you still get the Boon.