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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: ehunt on December 06, 2017, 10:36:45 pm

Title: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: ehunt on December 06, 2017, 10:36:45 pm
not clear why nobody likes farmer's market. definitely not clear.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Chris is me on December 06, 2017, 10:38:28 pm
It’s fine, reasonable payload. Not going to dominate a board, but it’s there and should like be used usually. I don’t get the hate either.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Witherweaver on December 07, 2017, 12:14:11 am
It's where I get all my organic VPs.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Chappy7 on December 07, 2017, 10:57:34 am
Shh, don't tell people! I love it when I get Farmer's Markets and my opponent doesn't.

Everyone, Farmer's Market is still bad.  Don't buy it.  Especially when you play me. 
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Jacob marley on December 07, 2017, 04:18:17 pm
Farmer's Market and Kings court are a fun little combo.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: jonts26 on December 07, 2017, 04:23:58 pm
King's court and X is a fun combo, where X is the set of all action cards.

Cue the edge cases.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on December 07, 2017, 04:27:30 pm
King's court and X is a fun combo, where X is the set of all action cards.

Cue the edge cases.

Treasure Map.

EDIT: Fool.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on December 07, 2017, 04:48:46 pm
In a game where Farmer's Market is uncontested, it's comparable to Monument, but helps you spike $$ and requires periodic rebuying.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: pacovf on December 07, 2017, 05:22:18 pm
In a game where Farmer's Market is uncontested, it's comparable to Monument, but helps you spike $$ and requires periodic rebuying.

Over 5 plays, Monument gives 10$ and 5VP. Farmer's Market gives you 10$, 4VP, 5 buys, and trashes itself (effectively, -3$ and -1 buy, if you intend to rebuy it).

So Farmer's Market gives less money and less VP. But it is slightly cheaper, can spike higher money amounts in a given turn, and it is a source of +Buy (important).

Kinda crappy if you are playing it for 1$ or 2$ while the other player is getting the better benefits. The last two plays are very strong for a 3$ card.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: DG on December 07, 2017, 05:54:34 pm
King's court and X is a fun combo, where X is the set of all action cards.

Cue the edge cases.

No I think the throne family are very important facilitators of farmer's market as the main problem with getting the full set of vp from the farmer's market stack is playing the farmer's markets 50 times. The throne family gets this done much faster using fewer actions, with fewer copies of the farmer's markets in a deck at  time, making it much easier to create a core strategy around the card.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: crj on December 07, 2017, 08:17:21 pm
Personally, the reason I'm lukewarm about Farmer's Market is that it seems to be neither strong nor fun, hence more trouble than it's worth.

It reminds me a lot of Agricola - which is a game many people seem to adore but I dislike intensely. It's fine if a game lets your opponent(s) thwart your strategy by strategically throwing spanners in the works, but it annoys me if you can be seriously messed up by what your opponent does without them intending it.

Sod's Law dictates that if you want coin, Farmer's Market will trash itself and give you 4VP; if you want VP, Farmer's Market will give you coin. )-8
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: SirSlugma on December 07, 2017, 10:04:03 pm
I just can't believe nobody spelled Farmers' Market correctly in this entire thread. :'(
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Donald X. on December 07, 2017, 10:24:20 pm
I just can't believe nobody spelled Farmers' Market correctly in this entire thread. :'(
There is nothing remarkable about people using one of the three ways English-speakers in 2017 notate that term (the other is of course Farmers Market) without checking to see which way the card has it. You may note that Worker's Village has the apostrophe in the other place.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Accatitippi on December 07, 2017, 10:48:40 pm
Special today: melon's and coin's. Come back tomorrow to taste our apple's and victory point's!
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on December 08, 2017, 12:32:55 am
Personally, the reason I'm lukewarm about Farmer's Market is that it seems to be neither strong nor fun, hence more trouble than it's worth.

It reminds me a lot of Agricola - which is a game many people seem to adore but I dislike intensely. It's fine if a game lets your opponent(s) thwart your strategy by strategically throwing spanners in the works, but it annoys me if you can be seriously messed up by what your opponent does without them intending it.

I think the opponent is intentionally messing up what you want to do most of the time, and it's one of the reasons I really like Farmerses' Market. Those situations where you have to decide if it's worth potentially giving your opponent 4VP to get the coins are interesting to me.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: timchen on December 08, 2017, 02:02:54 pm
I read through all the discussion with understanding a single bit of it, until I realized I was thinking about farming village.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: sonotoridesu on December 08, 2017, 02:15:07 pm
I just can't believe nobody spelled Farmers' Market correctly in this entire thread. :'(
It could just belong to a single farmer.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Awaclus on December 08, 2017, 02:31:34 pm
King's court and X is a fun combo, where X is the set of all action cards.

Cue the edge cases.

King's Court and Jack of all Trades is a fun nombo.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: LastFootnote on December 08, 2017, 02:48:34 pm
Personally, the reason I'm lukewarm about Farmer's Market is that it seems to be neither strong nor fun, hence more trouble than it's worth.

I don't think it's weak, and I personally find it fun, even if it's occasionally frustrating.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: enfynet on December 08, 2017, 07:23:19 pm
King's court and X is a fun combo, where X is the set of all action cards.

Cue the edge cases.

King's Court and Jack of all Trades is a fun nombo.
Skipable 90-93% of the time
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on December 08, 2017, 07:58:34 pm
I read through all the discussion with understanding a single bit of it, until I realized I was thinking about farming village.

Have you tried misreading the Fishing Village thread in a similar manner?
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: gloures on December 08, 2017, 09:50:29 pm
King's court and X is a fun combo, where X is the set of all action cards.

Cue the edge cases.

King's Court and Jack of all Trades is a fun nombo.


There's that Dan Brooks x Mercury game in the championship finals that proves that this is not always the case...
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on December 09, 2017, 04:15:06 pm
King's court and X is a fun combo, where X is the set of all action cards.

Cue the edge cases.

King's Court and Jack of all Trades is a fun nombo.


There's that Dan Brooks x Mercury game in the championship finals that proves that this is not always the case...

Gaining 3 Silvers and potentially trashing 3 cards could be useful. A truly fun nombo is King's Court and Counting House.
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: greybirdofprey on December 10, 2017, 06:41:19 am
This just accidentally turned into the card interaction thread?
Title: Re: farmer's market is pretty good
Post by: ackmondual on December 10, 2017, 07:20:34 pm
It's where I get all my organic VPs.
^^ This.  And there's something to be said for local too!

Newcomers will buy this card simply due to the fact that they're pretty good in real life!