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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: ehunt on December 04, 2017, 11:46:35 pm

Title: if you think about it
Post by: ehunt on December 04, 2017, 11:46:35 pm
Conclave is better than Vassal
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: Chappy7 on December 05, 2017, 12:42:49 am
Well, that's why it costs more.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: enfynet on December 05, 2017, 01:01:13 am
But is it "strictly better"?
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Post by: LastFootnote on December 05, 2017, 01:05:17 am
But is it "strictly better"?

No.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: enfynet on December 05, 2017, 01:07:29 am
Dammit, I forgot people here answer rhetorical questions. :(
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: Awaclus on December 05, 2017, 02:21:54 am
Well yeah, an anti-terminal Silver is better than a terminal Silver.
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Post by: chipperMDW on December 05, 2017, 02:32:37 am
A working Vassal is like a gimped Grand Market where a working Conclave is like a gimped Festival. A failing Vassal is a bit like a Duchess while a failing Conclave is something similar to a Silver. Also, you know which way Conclave is going to work before you play it, but Vassal is often a surprise.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: schadd on December 05, 2017, 02:59:20 am
no, i just read conclave and he's right
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Post by: popsofctown on December 05, 2017, 03:11:50 am
If only we had a good game designer to cost Conclave at 1$ more than Vassal so it wouldn't feel so bad.
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Post by: Eran of Arcadia on December 05, 2017, 10:14:47 am
If you think about it, the first guy to milk a cow must have been weird.

If you think about it, when pregnant women go swimming they're basically human submarines.

If you think about it, we all have a life expectancy of 2 minutes that resets every time we breathe.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: werothegreat on December 05, 2017, 10:17:52 am
Conclave, at its best, is Festival without the +Buy.  Vassal, at its best, is Grand Market without the +Buy.  Granted, Vassal has a bit more variance in "best" outcomes.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: hypercube on December 05, 2017, 12:01:39 pm
If you don't think about it Silver is probably better than either.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: schadd on December 05, 2017, 07:13:40 pm
If you don't think about it Silver is probably better than either.
i just read silver and they're right
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: michaeljb on December 05, 2017, 09:03:03 pm
If you don't think about it Silver is probably better than either.

If you think about it, the Silver test (https://boardgamegeek.com/article/2963711#2963711) is actually a valid test.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: Donald X. on December 05, 2017, 11:31:30 pm
If you don't think about it Silver is probably better than either.

If you think about it, the Silver test (https://boardgamegeek.com/article/2963711#2963711) is actually a valid test.
I've learned to always use either the Silver test, or something better.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on December 06, 2017, 04:40:06 am
A non-activated Vassal is just a Silver that uses up your action. A Silver doesn't and is always activated.

Conclave is better than Vassal

That's probably why the woman on Conclave looks more self-confident than the guy kneeling on the floor on Vassal (is he the vassal, or the dude on the left?)
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: Drab Emordnilap on December 06, 2017, 07:31:21 am
A non-activated Vassal is just a Silver that uses up your action. A Silver doesn't and is always activated.

Conclave is better than Vassal

That's probably why the woman on Conclave looks more self-confident than the guy kneeling on the floor on Vassal (is he the vassal, or the dude on the left?)

Often a non activated Conclave will be non activated because you don't have any actions left in your hand, anyways.
Title: Re: if you think about it
Post by: ackmondual on December 10, 2017, 07:28:17 pm
Dammit, I forgot people here answer rhetorical questions. :(
They're called rhetorical answers  ;)