Do: acknowledge your opponent at the end of the game. A common convention is for the losing player to say ‘gg’ (good game) first, and the winner to respond in kind. The winner saying ‘gg’ first is seen in some circles as taunting or poor sportsmanship, especially if it’s prior to the end of the game. If you win and your opponent says nothing, a simple ‘thanks for the game’ is fine.
Don’t: whine about luck. A simple ‘ugh’ every now and then is warranted and certainly forgivable – and I would always allow a ‘ffs’ when Warrior trashes a Warrior or Sea Hag hags a Sea Hag – but claiming that your opponent is “a lucky boy” or is only winning because of unbelievable luck is not very respectful and probably a sign you should take a break.
Do: acknowledge your opponent’s bad luck and your own good luck. You pulled Locusts from the Hex deck and trashed their Overlord? “Oh man, sorry. That’s harsh.” Be humble. Sometimes you are a lucky boy and you are winning mostly because of your unbelievable luck.
Do: acknowledge your opponent at the end of the game. A common convention is for the losing player to say ‘gg’ (good game) first, and the winner to respond in kind. The winner saying ‘gg’ first is seen in some circles as taunting or poor sportsmanship, especially if it’s prior to the end of the game. If you win and your opponent says nothing, a simple ‘thanks for the game’ is fine.
Don’t: say ‘gg’ before the end of the game unless you are going to resign. In this context, ‘gg’ is usually interpreted as, “You’ve got this. I concede.” If you don’t follow this with a resignation, it may come across as a meta-gaming tactic2.
Don’t: resign in the middle of your opponent’s turn.
Don’t: run up the score. Victory margin counts for nothing. If you can end the game quickly on your turn, do it. With rare exceptions, your opponent does not want or need to see your amazing engine one more time.
Is it possibly worth being more verbose with the abbreviations, like how you were with "gl hf"? Someone reading an article about online gaming etiquette may not know what "gg" or "ffs" stand for.
Is it possibly worth being more verbose with the abbreviations, like how you were with "gl hf"? Someone reading an article about online gaming etiquette may not know what "gg" or "ffs" stand for.
Yeah that's me. I don't know ffs. Love dominion, so I play online. Other than that, I don't spend much time online.
Is it possibly worth being more verbose with the abbreviations, like how you were with "gl hf"? Someone reading an article about online gaming etiquette may not know what "gg" or "ffs" stand for.
Yeah that's me. I don't know ffs. Love dominion, so I play online. Other than that, I don't spend much time online.
ffs: for f***'s sake
I think that's what it stands for. Not a very pretty thing to say.
One thing that annoys me is people starting to talk during my turn.
It interrupts the flow.
I try my best to only chat during my own turn.
One thing that annoys me is people starting to talk during my turn.
It interrupts the flow.
I try my best to only chat during my own turn.
I, on the other hand, have been trying to only chat during my opponent's turn so that I don't waste their time (and mine as well) typing instead of playing. It never even hit me that it can bother someone.
Sometimes you are a lucky boy
I strive to always be polite, but some find it rude if I talk during their turn, and others find it rude if I talk on my own turn. Unfortunately, there are also folks who find it rude if I don't talk at all. The only solution is to quit dominion. :(
This is a small annoyance for me, not a big problem.One thing that annoys me is people starting to talk during my turn.
It interrupts the flow.
I try my best to only chat during my own turn.
I, on the other hand, have been trying to only chat during my opponent's turn so that I don't waste their time (and mine as well) typing instead of playing. It never even hit me that it can bother someone.
Same. It seems to work when we both just respond during the other's turn. I don't see how this is a problem.
That being said, this rubbed me the wrong way:Sometimes you are a lucky boy
Generally, I think it's a good idea to be as inclusive as possible, especially when discussing a hobby that is often assumed to be less welcoming to women.
ffs: for f***'s sake
I think that's what it stands for. Not a very pretty thing to say.
--Lots of helpful suggestions--
Also, stylistically, I think it would be better to either capitalize the first word after the colon in each paragraph or remove the colon.
However, "thanks for the game" is probably going to be interpreted as "I'm not going to play another game".
On another note, when is it appropriate to discuss strategy, if ever? Sometimes I want to give advice because I genuinely want to help someone become a better player, but I can see how this might inevitably come off as condescending to some people. Is it just always a bad idea unless you are praising your opponent or criticizing your own play?
Another reason why some people are not very chatty is that they may not know much English. Hard to respond to someone chatting in English if you don’t know the language!
Is it possibly worth being more verbose with the abbreviations, like how you were with "gl hf"? Someone reading an article about online gaming etiquette may not know what "gg" or "ffs" stand for.
Years ago, in a game of Carcassonne on Xbox Live, I played a castle tile with a follower on it near my human opponent’s unfinished castle.You mean "city", not "castle". I know a lot of people say "castle", but since the introduction of the Bridges, Castles and Bazaars expansion, it's been pretty confusing.
I typically say gg whether I win or lose.
and I would always allow a ‘ffs’
I mean, which is better: saying "hahaha you suck! Look at me I won by 55 points!" or just saying "Good game!"?It's also better to hit someone with a club than to shoot them with a gun.
Resigning during an opponent's turn is fine. They can continue with bots if they really want to click through their turn.
Resigning during an opponent's turn is fine. They can continue with bots if they really want to click through their turn.
I generally think it’s best to ask if it’s the middle of their turn, especially if it’s the last turn. People enjoy playing their engine out. That’s really why they’re all here. Suddenly interrupting that without warning, especially when it only saves you maybe 30 seconds when the game will finish, is a Dick Move.
Resigning during an opponent's turn is fine. They can continue with bots if they really want to click through their turn.
I generally think it’s best to ask if it’s the middle of their turn, especially if it’s the last turn. People enjoy playing their engine out. That’s really why they’re all here. Suddenly interrupting that without warning, especially when it only saves you maybe 30 seconds when the game will finish, is a Dick Move.
Do: acknowledge your opponent at the end of the game. A common convention is for the losing player to say ‘gg’ (good game) first, and the winner to respond in kind. The winner saying ‘gg’ first is seen in some circles as taunting or poor sportsmanship, especially if it’s prior to the end of the game. If you win and your opponent says nothing, a simple ‘thanks for the game’ is fine.
Don’t: say ‘gg’ before the end of the game unless you are going to resign. In this context, ‘gg’ is usually interpreted as, “You’ve got this. I concede.” If you don’t follow this with a resignation, it may come across as a meta-gaming tactic2.
Resigning during an opponent's turn is fine. They can continue with bots if they really want to click through their turn.
I generally think it’s best to ask if it’s the middle of their turn, especially if it’s the last turn. People enjoy playing their engine out. That’s really why they’re all here. Suddenly interrupting that without warning, especially when it only saves you maybe 30 seconds when the game will finish, is a Dick Move.
30 seconds? Man, I do it when it saves me 2.
Resigning during an opponent's turn is fine. They can continue with bots if they really want to click through their turn.
I generally think it’s best to ask if it’s the middle of their turn, especially if it’s the last turn. People enjoy playing their engine out. That’s really why they’re all here. Suddenly interrupting that without warning, especially when it only saves you maybe 30 seconds when the game will finish, is a Dick Move.
30 seconds? Man, I do it when it saves me 2.
And of course, people universally hold your behavior in the highest of regard.
Resigning during an opponent's turn is fine. They can continue with bots if they really want to click through their turn.
I generally think it’s best to ask if it’s the middle of their turn, especially if it’s the last turn. People enjoy playing their engine out. That’s really why they’re all here. Suddenly interrupting that without warning, especially when it only saves you maybe 30 seconds when the game will finish, is a Dick Move.
I consider asking in this spot to be poor etiquette.
You are giving them two options.
Say yes, in which case you may as well have just resigned.
Or say no, making them feel rude for denying your request.
We're not here just to win as many games as we can in the fastest time (at least most of us aren't) we're here to play dominion.
We're not here just to win as many games as we can in the fastest time (at least most of us aren't) we're here to play dominion.
Yeah exactly, we're here to play Dominion, not watch our opponent clicking pointlessly when the game is already over.
Part of playing dominion is losing (Yes, that includes watching other players have good turns).
In any kind of contest you should be a gracious loser. Finish what you started. You shouldn't just quit whenever you feel like it.
Unless you're playing solitaire.
Personally, I wish my opponents would resign some games I'm winning. It's just as boring for me as them.
Also, I sometimes get players complain for me not greening sooner and overbuilding. My long turns piss some players. ???
Do you just quit when you play in real life?
The exception is when I get a message like "I think you have this one. Another game?" or at least "wp gg"
This is pretty much why I don't play online. There's no way you would enjoy playing a game against me.Part of playing dominion is losing (Yes, that includes watching other players have good turns).
No, it includes admitting defeat by resigning.In any kind of contest you should be a gracious loser. Finish what you started. You shouldn't just quit whenever you feel like it.
Resigning isn't quitting. The moment I resign, the game is finished, and I'm the loser.Unless you're playing solitaire.
No, I don't like playing solitaire and that's why I prefer for my opponent to resign as soon as they have no chance of winning so that we can start a new game instead of having me play solitaire for a while, and I return the favor when I have no chance of winning.
The sports analogy you used also isn’t great, because sports is usually entertainment and the teams agreed to provide gameplay for a fixed amount of time to the ticket holders. Additionally, most major sports leagues do not allow for true resignation.
As I have been from the start, I'm still unsure how best to address the post-game 'gg'.It depends on whether you think this guide should, ahem, describe online etiquette as it exists, or prescribe how it ought to be ;)
As I have been from the start, I'm still unsure how best to address the post-game 'gg'.It depends on whether you think this guide should, ahem, describe online etiquette as it exists, or prescribe how it ought to be ;)
How often do people say 'gg' to (primarily) literally mean that it was a good game? To me, it's equivalent to shaking hands after a face-to-face game.
How often do people say 'gg' to (primarily) literally mean that it was a good game? To me, it's equivalent to shaking hands after a face-to-face game.
It's the equivalent of saying "good" when someone asks you how your day is going. It's the automatic polite thing to do regardless of whether it's true or not.
As an aside, I think in chess proper etiquette is that you should resign in a clearly losing position (at least at the higher levels). This to me seems like a better comparison than sports or something.
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
I say gg during a game if it is exciting and/or interesting.
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
I say gg during a game if it is exciting and/or interesting.
Your opponents probably interpret that as you being passive-aggressive about being in a losing position.
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
I say gg during a game if it is exciting and/or interesting.
Your opponents probably interpret that as you being passive-aggressive about being in a losing position.
Maybe, but given the context, I kind of doubt it. Most times when I say it it isn't clear who is ahead.
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
I say gg during a game if it is exciting and/or interesting.
Your opponents probably interpret that as you being passive-aggressive about being in a losing position.
Maybe, but given the context, I kind of doubt it. Most times when I say it it isn't clear who is ahead.
If a game is interesting/exciting, then it is maybe worth your time to spell out what you mean and say "this is a good game" or something to that effect. Why risk ruining a player's mood by giving them a chance to misinterpret a "gg".
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
I say gg during a game if it is exciting and/or interesting.
Your opponents probably interpret that as you being passive-aggressive about being in a losing position.
Maybe, but given the context, I kind of doubt it. Most times when I say it it isn't clear who is ahead.
If a game is interesting/exciting, then it is maybe worth your time to spell out what you mean and say "this is a good game" or something to that effect. Why risk ruining a player's mood by giving them a chance to misinterpret a "gg".
You should not say gg until the game is over. You can say gg and resign, ending the game, but saying gg while you are either winning or it isn't clear who will win is poor etiquette.
Resigning is also fine if you have no chance of winning. I think playing it out if you have a slim chance is the way to go but if it is extremely improbable, I don't mind a resignation.
As for ending the game quickly, not everyone knows how close a margin they can get away with and still guarantee victory, and not everyone knows when they have clearly lost, and sometimes the margin needed is quite large. In an engine with explosive potential for points, for example with goons, groundskeeper, or kings court/monument, with loads of vp per turn, a large margin is necessary to safely approach the endgame. New players also may not spot that they are down too far to have any possibility of winning, and keep playing even though they will lose when the game ends no matter what. Further, if you aren't confident of your deck tracking and you don't know if your alt-vp will quite be enough buying just the last silk road, it is fine to play a slightly longer turn to ensure you get the points you need.
One thing I would add is to not play attacks that aren't necessary. Don't make them discard to militia unless you need the coins, don't play a witch when they could have a moat unless you need the cards, or the curse vp will make a difference. You playing 3 actions doesn't take much time, but forcing them to make a decision takes a lot longer.
I say gg during a game if it is exciting and/or interesting.
Your opponents probably interpret that as you being passive-aggressive about being in a losing position.
Maybe, but given the context, I kind of doubt it. Most times when I say it it isn't clear who is ahead.
If a game is interesting/exciting, then it is maybe worth your time to spell out what you mean and say "this is a good game" or something to that effect. Why risk ruining a player's mood by giving them a chance to misinterpret a "gg".
I like to think I've never played someone emotionally fragile enough to have their mood ruined by me being perceived as passive aggressive.
Okay so now there's this thing where the end of the game is announced, and then you click a thing and it shows you the final score and so on. Do you say gg before or after clicking the thing?
Has anyone else noticed people resigning at the very beginning of a game? I've noticed lately that like 5% of games people will just leave after like 5 seconds. Is it because there are cards they don't recognize/like? Is it because they are already unlucky (e.g. opening 5/2 on a board where 4/3 is much better)? Or what? Just wondering if anyone else has seen this I guess ..
Or maybe people just don't like playing with me :-\
Has anyone else noticed people resigning at the very beginning of a game? I've noticed lately that like 5% of games people will just leave after like 5 seconds. Is it because there are cards they don't recognize/like? Is it because they are already unlucky (e.g. opening 5/2 on a board where 4/3 is much better)? Or what? Just wondering if anyone else has seen this I guess ..
Or maybe people just don't like playing with me :-\
I once had an opponent resign several games in a row on turn 1 after they lost one game and kept getting automatched against me.
Is it bad etiquette to do something that requires meaningless opponent input after you've effectively ended the game? So e.g. you buy the last Province, then play a Raider (barring edge cases like opponent getting points from Tunnel-Gold-Museum). I can certainly see how this would be annoying to the opponent, but I guess I have a habit of just mindlessly clicking through whatever SHiT prompts me for at the end of the game that is meaningless -- exchanging Travelers, paying debt, etc. And vice versa - I mindlessly click stuff when I see my opponent has ended the game and I'm prompted to do stuff (like discard). I guess I just don't think about it that much / don't care, but I have noticed it seems to piss people off every once in a while. Curious what the consensus is.
Is it bad etiquette to do something that requires meaningless opponent input after you've effectively ended the game? So e.g. you buy the last Province, then play a Raider (barring edge cases like opponent getting points from Tunnel-Gold-Museum). I can certainly see how this would be annoying to the opponent, but I guess I have a habit of just mindlessly clicking through whatever SHiT prompts me for at the end of the game that is meaningless -- exchanging Travelers, paying debt, etc. And vice versa - I mindlessly click stuff when I see my opponent has ended the game and I'm prompted to do stuff (like discard). I guess I just don't think about it that much / don't care, but I have noticed it seems to piss people off every once in a while. Curious what the consensus is.Mindlessly clicking through Travellers is actually dangerous if the game ended in a Traveller pileout.
Mindlessly clicking through Travellers is actually dangerous if the game ended in a Traveller pileout.
Mindlessly clicking through Travellers is actually dangerous if the game ended in a Traveller pileout.
Does this mean that you can undo a three-pile ending if one of those piles is Page or Peasant and you played that card during your turn? I never knew that.
Is it bad etiquette to do something that requires meaningless opponent input after you've effectively ended the game? So e.g. you buy the last Province, then play a Raider (barring edge cases like opponent getting points from Tunnel-Gold-Museum). I can certainly see how this would be annoying to the opponent, but I guess I have a habit of just mindlessly clicking through whatever SHiT prompts me for at the end of the game that is meaningless -- exchanging Travelers, paying debt, etc. And vice versa - I mindlessly click stuff when I see my opponent has ended the game and I'm prompted to do stuff (like discard). I guess I just don't think about it that much / don't care, but I have noticed it seems to piss people off every once in a while. Curious what the consensus is.Mindlessly clicking through Travellers is actually dangerous if the game ended in a Traveller pileout.
On topic, I don't think it matters much when your opponent can always resign. I try to not make my opponent do more than necessary when I already know I can end the game, but they don't know. For example, with a Legionary in hand and enough buying power to end it, don't reveal the Gold.
Does this mean that you can undo a three-pile ending if one of those piles is Page or Peasant and you played that card during your turn? I never knew that.Ambassador is the classic way to have an empty pile become non-empty.
Does this mean that you can undo a three-pile ending if one of those piles is Page or Peasant and you played that card during your turn? I never knew that.Ambassador is the classic way to have an empty pile become non-empty.
Is it bad etiquette to do something that requires meaningless opponent input after you've effectively ended the game? So e.g. you buy the last Province, then play a Raider (barring edge cases like opponent getting points from Tunnel-Gold-Museum). I can certainly see how this would be annoying to the opponent, but I guess I have a habit of just mindlessly clicking through whatever SHiT prompts me for at the end of the game that is meaningless -- exchanging Travelers, paying debt, etc. And vice versa - I mindlessly click stuff when I see my opponent has ended the game and I'm prompted to do stuff (like discard). I guess I just don't think about it that much / don't care, but I have noticed it seems to piss people off every once in a while. Curious what the consensus is.
Legionary.Yes, you did do wrong.
This was a real issue. I try my best to play nice, but I also like to win. Legionary creates a real issue since this misclic is so obvious and so severe for the opponent if they grant it. First time it happened to me and I let it pass just because I didn't want my opponent to come in the position to choose between sportsmanship and will to win- it was my mistake, fair enough. Later on though he did the same one, and this was at a much more critical stage, if the attack would have hit me I would most probably lose. I denied, I don't want to lose. My opponent went mad.
Did I wrong? I mean, from isotropic I learnt that misclics is part of Dominion Online in one way or another. Don't play careless. Most mistakes don't effect the opponent directly and is easy to grant, but this one, man.. I really wish it wasn't there, in what situation do you not want to reveal the gold?
Dear opponent, I'm sorry. I hope I don't have to do it again, but honestly I think I would've..
Hey, I have a somewhat related question. I had a game the other day, and my opponent seemed pretty upset that I was getting "lucky" (my chariot race got me lots of points. I trashed all my coppers and estates and he had lots of spoils, so it didn't seem too lucky to me) at the end of the game he/she said "gg, nl" what is nl?Let me UrbanDictionary that for you. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NL
Hey, I have a somewhat related question. I had a game the other day, and my opponent seemed pretty upset that I was getting "lucky" (my chariot race got me lots of points. I trashed all my coppers and estates and he had lots of spoils, so it didn't seem too lucky to me) at the end of the game he/she said "gg, nl" what is nl?Let me UrbanDictionary that for you. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NL
Did I wrong? I mean, from isotropic I learnt that misclics is part of Dominion Online in one way or another. Don't play careless. Most mistakes don't effect the opponent directly and is easy to grant, but this one, man.. I really wish it wasn't there, in what situation do you not want to reveal the gold?
Dear opponent, I'm sorry. I hope I don't have to do it again, but honestly I think I would've..
Did I wrong? I mean, from isotropic I learnt that misclics is part of Dominion Online in one way or another. Don't play careless. Most mistakes don't effect the opponent directly and is easy to grant, but this one, man.. I really wish it wasn't there, in what situation do you not want to reveal the gold?
Dear opponent, I'm sorry. I hope I don't have to do it again, but honestly I think I would've..
Yeah you did wrong and you're obviously not sorry.
It's not clear from your post whether you got an undo on your own misclick.
If you did not ask for an undo, or if you asked for an undo and was not granted one, then I think your move wasn't unsporting at all. It wasn't sporting, but it also isn't unsporting. It's just baseline expected behavior.
If you did get an undo, then I think your move is slightly unsporting. But I wouldn't consider it egregiously out of line. One never has an obligation to agree to an undo, except maybe if the opponent had granted one to you.
I mean, I've been reading a lot about what is seen as courtesy about undoes on the forum and it surprises me a little that two people can say "you did wrong" without even explaining why on issues like these. Why have undoes as a choice if it's so clearly wrong to deny something that will cause you to loose?
Legionary.Yes, you did do wrong.
This was a real issue. I try my best to play nice, but I also like to win. Legionary creates a real issue since this misclic is so obvious and so severe for the opponent if they grant it. First time it happened to me and I let it pass just because I didn't want my opponent to come in the position to choose between sportsmanship and will to win- it was my mistake, fair enough. Later on though he did the same one, and this was at a much more critical stage, if the attack would have hit me I would most probably lose. I denied, I don't want to lose. My opponent went mad.
Did I wrong? I mean, from isotropic I learnt that misclics is part of Dominion Online in one way or another. Don't play careless. Most mistakes don't effect the opponent directly and is easy to grant, but this one, man.. I really wish it wasn't there, in what situation do you not want to reveal the gold?
Dear opponent, I'm sorry. I hope I don't have to do it again, but honestly I think I would've..
No, that has nothing to do with logic, only with imposing your own views about what is correct behaviour on others.Legionary.Yes, you did do wrong.
This was a real issue. I try my best to play nice, but I also like to win. Legionary creates a real issue since this misclic is so obvious and so severe for the opponent if they grant it. First time it happened to me and I let it pass just because I didn't want my opponent to come in the position to choose between sportsmanship and will to win- it was my mistake, fair enough. Later on though he did the same one, and this was at a much more critical stage, if the attack would have hit me I would most probably lose. I denied, I don't want to lose. My opponent went mad.
Did I wrong? I mean, from isotropic I learnt that misclics is part of Dominion Online in one way or another. Don't play careless. Most mistakes don't effect the opponent directly and is easy to grant, but this one, man.. I really wish it wasn't there, in what situation do you not want to reveal the gold?
Dear opponent, I'm sorry. I hope I don't have to do it again, but honestly I think I would've..
I think it's totally fair. You didn't ask for it yourself, so it's logical you don't want to grant it to the other person.
Why have undoes as a choice if it's so clearly wrong to deny something that will cause you to loose?The undo feature is there because of all the people that want it, including Jay and Stef.