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Title: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 08:36:32 am
Teasers are a little different this year. Instead of cryptic information about the content of the cards, you can guess their names. I've created a quiz here:

Guess the Dominion: Nocturne Cards (https://www.sporcle.com/games/LastFootnote2/ab66ab6d-50c3n4207ya504k6fbc02980b51)

It only includes the 33 Kingdom cards, so it doesn't include non-Supply cards, etc. Feel free to post the names you successfully guess! Hopefully somebody will compile them somewhere. I may update this post with successfully guessed names, time permitting.

EDIT: Here are the names guessed so far, courtesy of jsh357 on Discord.

Bard, Cemetery, Changeling, Cobbler, Conclave, Crypt, Cursed Village, Den of Sin, Druid, Exorcist, Faithful Hound, Fool, Ghost Town, Guardian, Idol, Leprechaun, Monastery, Necromancer, Night Watchman, Pixie, Pooka, Raider, Sacred Grove, Secret Cave, Shepherd, Tracker, Vampire, Werewolf

Probably the spoiler tag isn't necessary, but hey maybe somebody wants to try to guess blind.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: yahas on October 20, 2017, 08:41:07 am
So I got Werewolf and Vampire but those were gimmes.   :-X

I ran out of ideas at that point.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Harley_Beckett on October 20, 2017, 08:47:22 am
Crypt!

Edit:  And Cemetery.  Other than that I got nothin'.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Awaclus on October 20, 2017, 08:51:36 am
Necromancer.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: BBL on October 20, 2017, 08:55:03 am
Leprechaun!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Harley_Beckett on October 20, 2017, 08:56:46 am
Leprechaun!

Ooh!  Pixie, Pooka and Changeling!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: tailred on October 20, 2017, 08:57:16 am
exorcist!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: market squire on October 20, 2017, 09:00:21 am
Night Watchman  :)
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: aku_chi on October 20, 2017, 09:00:40 am
Monastery
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: benedettosoxfan on October 20, 2017, 09:01:47 am
I got "ghost town."
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: pregnantbird on October 20, 2017, 09:04:13 am
Cursed Village :)
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: dansh9 on October 20, 2017, 09:04:54 am
druid
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: market squire on October 20, 2017, 09:06:00 am
Bard!
Thats a problem for the German translation I guess...
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: RTT on October 20, 2017, 09:08:07 am
This kind of teasers are not that fun for non native english speaking people :(
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Burning Skull on October 20, 2017, 09:10:38 am
I'd say they pretty much are :)
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: J Reggie on October 20, 2017, 09:12:15 am
Hey, I was just sporcling last night, waiting for the teaser day to come around!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: hypercube on October 20, 2017, 09:13:07 am
Tracker
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: 4est on October 20, 2017, 09:13:20 am
Sacred Grove!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: amoffett11 on October 20, 2017, 09:17:16 am
Gullible Drunk!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LaLight on October 20, 2017, 09:18:42 am
  Moat     !
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: BBL on October 20, 2017, 09:22:56 am
No Chihuahua  :'(
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: J Reggie on October 20, 2017, 09:23:30 am
Looks like there are a bunch of cards called ??? in this set...

No Chihuahua  :'(

Probably a non-supply card.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on October 20, 2017, 09:34:35 am
Guardian and Shepherd!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: amoffett11 on October 20, 2017, 09:35:53 am
Conclave!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 09:47:51 am
This kind of teasers are not that fun for non native english speaking people :(

Yes, I realized that right after posting it and am kicking myself. I sincerely apologize! I know it’s probably too little too late, but hopefully soon I can update it with at least the German names and possibly others. Sorry again!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: BBL on October 20, 2017, 09:51:25 am
This kind of teasers are not that fun for non native english speaking people :(
Yes, I realized that right after posting it and am kicking myself. I sincerely apologize! I know it’s probably too little too late, but hopefully soon I can update it with at least the German names and possibly others. Sorry again!
Don't be too harsh on yourself. I am a non-native speaker too and it is still great fun. There are enough dictionaries out there. :D
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Squidd on October 20, 2017, 09:56:16 am
I tried a whole bunch of standard Werewolf roles, and Fool hit.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on October 20, 2017, 09:58:06 am
This kind of teasers are not that fun for non native english speaking people :(

Yes, I realized that right after posting it and am kicking myself. I sincerely apologize! I know it’s probably too little too late, but hopefully soon I can update it with at least the German names and possibly others. Sorry again!

Don't blame yourself! Everyone who reads and writes in an English-speaking Dominion forum can expect English card names to come up; anything else would be a bonus. I'm German and I had fun guessing names for Nocturne cards. When I didn't know a word in English, I looked it up!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: pregnantbird on October 20, 2017, 10:00:05 am
This kind of teasers are not that fun for non native english speaking people :(

Yes, I realized that right after posting it and am kicking myself. I sincerely apologize! I know it’s probably too little too late, but hopefully soon I can update it with at least the German names and possibly others. Sorry again!

No worries :) we have fun here! Thanks for making the Quiz... At this point its really hard to find new card names!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: SuperHans on October 20, 2017, 10:02:46 am
EDIT: All 33.

Bard
Blessed Village
Cemetery
Changeling
Cobbler
Conclave
Crypt
Cursed Village
Den of Sin
Devil's Workshop
Druid
Exorcist
Faithful Hound
Fool
Ghost Town
Guardian
Idol
Leprechaun
Monastery
Necromancer
Night Watchman
Pixie
Pooka
Raider
Sacred Grove
Secret Cave
Shepherd
Skulk
Tormentor
Tracker
Tragic Hero
Vampire
Werewolf
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 10:03:48 am
I suspect a good number of the missing ones are 2-word names. Adjective+Noun is hard to guess.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: J Reggie on October 20, 2017, 10:11:11 am
I think I might make a teasers speculation thread so that new answers here don't get lost in the speculation/whatever semantic argument two people might be having. Do people like that idea?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cuzz on October 20, 2017, 10:11:42 am
I suspect a good number of the missing ones are 2-word names. Adjective+Noun is hard to guess.

I find it hard to imagine that there's not a Haunted Something-or-other
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cuzz on October 20, 2017, 10:15:37 am
Cobbler!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: markusin on October 20, 2017, 10:23:32 am
Took a quick look through the Dominion Outakes. I found a hidden gem.

Den of Sin.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: SuperHans on October 20, 2017, 10:37:06 am
Took a quick look through the Dominion Outakes. I found a hidden gem.

Den of Sin.
Resourceful.

Interestingly, Pixie Dust was an old outtake. Raider is also an outtake and a name of one of the new cards. I'm sad Berserker isn't a new card.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 10:39:40 am
Russian names have been added to the quiz as alternate answers; guess the right Russian name and the English one will pop up.

German will be next.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Awaclus on October 20, 2017, 10:42:00 am
There's a spoiler on Reddit with all the card names.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LaLight on October 20, 2017, 10:44:41 am
Russian names have been added to the quiz as alternate answers; guess the right Russian name and the English one will pop up.

German will be next.

Works perfectly, thank you!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 10:48:43 am
German names are live!

I don't think I have access to Japanese names right now. Many apologies!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Garth One-eye on October 20, 2017, 10:49:23 am
Secret Cave
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Beyond Awesome on October 20, 2017, 11:05:45 am
This is up on the blog now! Anyone want to post on BGG?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: markusin on October 20, 2017, 11:14:43 am
There's a spoiler on Reddit with all the card names.

It's one of those spoiler tags that doesn't work on the mobile Reddit site. Spoiled myself on one additional card name before I turned away.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on October 20, 2017, 11:20:15 am
Idol!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 11:20:40 am
This is up on the blog now! Anyone want to post on BGG?
Done: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/27216889#27216889
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 11:23:36 am
There's a spoiler on Reddit with all the card names.
I thought there would be a way to hack it. Somebody on reddit actually knew how apparently.

EDIT: LFN wants me to link to reddit instead of posting here in spoilers. https://www.reddit.com/r/dominion/comments/77ltch/a_teaser_for_nocturne_is_up_on_fds_do_post_if_you/
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 11:26:14 am
There's a spoiler on Reddit with all the card names.
I thought there would be a way to hack it. Somebody on reddit actually knew how apparently.

Aw man, you ain't gotta post it here! How about just a link to that reddit thread?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Tozar on October 20, 2017, 11:36:34 am
I got these five, but it looks like they're all known at this point, but anyway...

Cemetery, Crypt, Night Watchman, Vampire, Werewolf
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: m_knox on October 20, 2017, 11:45:56 am
Are the cards in this quiz sorted by cost, or are they just randomly thrown in?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 11:49:02 am
Are the cards in this quiz sorted by cost, or are they just randomly thrown in?

The order is randomized every time you load the quiz.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Jeebus on October 20, 2017, 11:49:45 am
How the hell did anybody manage to guess Secret Cave and Sacred Grove?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 11:50:49 am
How the hell did anybody manage to guess Secret Cave and Sacred Grove?

I guess "Sacred Grove" is a common thing in Magic: The Gathering? That's what somebody said, anyway. No idea for Secret Cave, but it's cool that somebody got it.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 11:53:54 am
How the hell did anybody manage to guess Secret Cave and Sacred Grove?

Sacred Groves are actual things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_grove A bit obscure perhaps, but a real term. And once we had Druid it's not much of a stretch.

I guessed cave, and I suppose with Secret Passage and Secret Chamber people just started throwing secret behind some words.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Jeebus on October 20, 2017, 12:01:29 pm
Some thoughts about the names...

Pooka? I feel like Goblin would be cooler. Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme. (Neither do several others of course, but I feel like Den of Sin is supposed to fit.) Also, Ghost Town "doesn't mean what you think it means".

Exorcist, Cemetery, Monastery, Changeling, Werewolf, Necromancer, Vampire, Crypt, Idol are cool.
But I would have liked more of them, like Mandrake, Nightshade, Crucifix, Wight, Spirit, Phantom, Specter, Bats, Spiders, Dragon, Demon, Gargoyle, Leviathan, Owl, Skeleton, Skull...
EDIT: and Grimoire! And a Develop variant called Decompose!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 12:06:03 pm
I think of Den of Sin as, like, a gambling hall as well.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Garth One-eye on October 20, 2017, 12:11:48 pm
How the hell did anybody manage to guess Secret Cave and Sacred Grove?

I thought of secret hideaway and from there tried secret cave.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 12:19:44 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Jeebus on October 20, 2017, 12:23:01 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.

It works just as well as "brothel" would in that sense.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 12:25:27 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.

It works just as well as "brothel" would in that sense.

Brothel card, because we all know how much Harem was a hit with the kids.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Beyond Awesome on October 20, 2017, 12:27:47 pm
Too bad we don't have a card called Necronomicon. Cthulu would be cool too....
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 12:29:28 pm
Too bad we don't have a card called Necronomicon.
You know, we could. Necromancer could gain Necronomicons from the Necronomicon pile.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Beyond Awesome on October 20, 2017, 12:30:54 pm
So, I guess Necromancer Necro's old Dominion games.

Also, no Gremlins, but we have Pooka which is kind of the same, I think.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: markusin on October 20, 2017, 12:38:55 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.

I think Den of Sin fits rather well with the theme. Besides images of the "Icon of Sin" from Doom 2, it reminded me of the "Louviers Possessions":

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist257/stephwhit/final/3possessions.html (https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist257/stephwhit/final/3possessions.html)

Also, I can understand Den of Sin referring to gambling. Gambling dens are thing I think.

I feel dumb for trying "cursed idol" but not "idol" by itself.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: SuperHans on October 20, 2017, 12:48:35 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.

I think Den of Sin fits rather well with the theme. Besides images of the "Icon of Sin" from Doom 2, it reminded me of the "Louviers Possessions":

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist257/stephwhit/final/3possessions.html (https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist257/stephwhit/final/3possessions.html)

Also, I can understand Den of Sin referring to gambling. Gambling dens are thing I think.

I feel dumb for trying "cursed idol" but not "idol" by itself.
You're not alone. I tried Cursed Idol as well. That was an outtake.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 01:02:55 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.

It works just as well as "brothel" would in that sense.
With no context, I would say those two are fairly synonymous, but within context I think the word "sin" makes "Den of Sin" more thematically appropriate than "brothel".
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 01:08:55 pm
Cthulu would be cool too....

I would dig a Great Old Ones pile with each card being a different (à la Knights) Lovecraftian ancient.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on October 20, 2017, 01:12:03 pm
With no context, I would say those two are fairly synonymous, but within context I think the word "sin" makes "Den of Sin" more thematically appropriate than "brothel".

Agree. I also agree that "Den of Sin" in more puritanical contexts could mean merely a gambling hall (as previously noted) or a tavern.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cuzz on October 20, 2017, 01:14:38 pm
To protect the innocent I propose we put these suggestive card names like Secret Cave in spoiler tags from now on.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 01:21:18 pm
Yeah, I mean, that one and Cobbler are pretty racy.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on October 20, 2017, 01:22:13 pm
To protect the innocent I propose we put these suggestive card names like Secret Cave in spoiler tags from now on.

Well, we're on page 3 at this point. If you've read this far, it seems like you know what you're after.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Awaclus on October 20, 2017, 01:23:11 pm
To protect the innocent I propose we put these suggestive card names like Secret Cave in spoiler tags from now on.

Well, we're on page 3 at this point. If you've read this far, it seems like you know what you're after.

We're on page 2 at this point.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on October 20, 2017, 01:27:34 pm
To protect the innocent I propose we put these suggestive card names like Secret Cave in spoiler tags from now on.

Well, we're on page 3 at this point. If you've read this far, it seems like you know what you're after.

We're on page 2 at this point.

Whatever your threshold, certainly we're below the fold.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Co0kieL0rd on October 20, 2017, 01:40:56 pm
I feel dumb for trying "cursed idol" but not "idol" by itself.
I found Idol because I typed in the German word "Götze".
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Jeebus on October 20, 2017, 01:52:15 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.

It works just as well as "brothel" would in that sense.
With no context, I would say those two are fairly synonymous, but within context I think the word "sin" makes "Den of Sin" more thematically appropriate than "brothel".

You said that sex is often coupled with magic. In that sense, (i.e. judging how well the name works given its sexual connotations) brothel would work equally well.

Anyway, even if it also has gambling connotations (which in any case are less obvious than the sexual ones), it still doesn't fit with the theme. Except of course if we're thinking that gambling generally happens at night... but so does sex, so hey.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 02:08:18 pm
Guys, take it to RSP  :P
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 02:17:44 pm
Den of Sin is very sexual and doesn't really fit with the theme.

I don't know, sex is often coupled (hehe) with the occult and ritual magic.  I think it works pretty well, given the context.

It works just as well as "brothel" would in that sense.
With no context, I would say those two are fairly synonymous, but within context I think the word "sin" makes "Den of Sin" more thematically appropriate than "brothel".

You said that sex is often coupled with magic. In that sense, (i.e. judging how well the name works given its sexual connotations) brothel would work equally well.
But not just any word is right for every context.  There are subtle shades to language.  When sex is coupled with the occult and ritual magic (which is subtly different from just saying "magic"), the words chosen to refer to sex usually reflect a darker side.  Den of Sin sounds better than, say, Love Nest in this context.  For that matter, so does brothel.  So lets put them on a spectrum: Den of Sin > Brothel > Love Nest.  Then you can add any number of other terms in there that have a similar meaning.  At some point on this (admittedly subjective) spectrum, the terms are going to cease being appropriate for a given context.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 02:20:40 pm
Guys, take it to RSP  :P

Genuine question, here.  Why would this need to be taken to RSP?  We're discussing whether the terminology on a card works within the theme of the expansion.  Or does any mention of sex have to go to that sub-forum?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cuzz on October 20, 2017, 02:25:45 pm
But not just any word is right for every context.  There are subtle shades to language.

Whoa there, we don't take kindly to this sort of talk around here.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: SCSN on October 20, 2017, 02:26:19 pm
There are subtle shades to language.

As much as 50 in the current context.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 20, 2017, 02:30:47 pm
Guys, take it to RSP  :P

Genuine question, here.  Why would this need to be taken to RSP?  We're discussing whether the terminology on a card works within the theme of the expansion.  Or does any mention of sex have to go to that sub-forum?

I think it was a joke.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 02:37:22 pm
But not just any word is right for every context.  There are subtle shades to language.

Whoa there, we don't take kindly to this sort of talk around here.

Ah, but if it weren't true, then why would we need the thread entitled "What Should We Call Things" or the rumored Dominion: Terminology expansion coming out next year.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 02:41:24 pm
Guys, take it to RSP  :P

Genuine question, here.  Why would this need to be taken to RSP?  We're discussing whether the terminology on a card works within the theme of the expansion.  Or does any mention of sex have to go to that sub-forum?

I think it was a joke.

Oh, uh yeah, that makes sense. Whoosh on me.

EDIT: spelling
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 02:42:32 pm
Guys, take it to RSP  :P

Genuine question, here.  Why would this need to be taken to RSP?  We're discussing whether the terminology on a card works within the theme of the expansion.  Or does any mention of sex have to go to that sub-forum?

I think it was a joke.

It was tongue-in-cheek. The RSP header says "Discuss these topics here, and in here only" (emphasis added), so technically you should but I don't particularly care.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: FemurLemur on October 20, 2017, 03:02:42 pm
Cthulu would be cool too....

I would be down with never seeing another Cthulu or Cthulu-themed thing in any board or video game for the rest of my life. Same with Zombies.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Beyond Awesome on October 20, 2017, 03:05:43 pm
I wasn't serious about Cthulhu
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: FemurLemur on October 20, 2017, 03:10:30 pm
I wasn't serious about Cthulhu

Oh. The sarcasm went right over my head
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cuzz on October 20, 2017, 03:18:39 pm
Lotta wooshing going on in this thread.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 20, 2017, 03:20:41 pm
Cthulu would be cool too....

I would be down with never seeing another Cthulu or Cthulu-themed thing in any board or video game for the rest of my life. Same with Zombies.

I've been a long-time fan of Cthulu-based stuff by way of being a long-time fan of Metallica, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let boardgaming's overuse of the theme ruin it for me.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Asper on October 20, 2017, 03:31:08 pm
Argh, I really hoped Werewolf would be the only one I lose  :'(
Still looks exciting. I like the theme a lot.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: McGarnacle on October 20, 2017, 05:05:26 pm
My goal is to get at least 1 of these. Obviously they won't all follow the horror theme.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 20, 2017, 05:13:41 pm
My goal is to get at least 1 of these. Obviously they won't all follow the horror theme.
I dunno, Shepherds are scary folks.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: markusin on October 20, 2017, 05:24:29 pm
"Faithful" hound? I was trying like "Hellhound".
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: BBL on October 20, 2017, 05:37:46 pm
I tried hound without an adjective... My bet is that at night the hound changes into a werewolve (or has a chance to do so) and  in order to mark the difference it needs to be a really nice and faithful dog before.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: GendoIkari on October 20, 2017, 06:08:03 pm
Ha, very first try, "Night Watchman", I was right!
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: markusin on October 20, 2017, 06:56:14 pm
Ha, very first try, "Night Watchman", I was right!

I was surprised "Crypt" was an answer (the only one I
guessed at first) given that "Catacombs" is already a card.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Asper on October 20, 2017, 07:10:10 pm
Ha, very first try, "Night Watchman", I was right!

I was surprised "Crypt" was an answer (the only one I
guessed at first) given that "Catacombs" is already a card.

Crypt will combo with Storyteller. The online version will play the "Tales from the crypt" theme everytime that combo is exploited.
#truenocturnefacts
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Donald X. on October 20, 2017, 07:37:43 pm
I was surprised "Crypt" was an answer (the only one I
guessed at first) given that "Catacombs" is already a card.
How many expansions is this? 11 or so? And the names aren't e.g. Florbian Catacombs, just plain Catacombs. I mean. There are only so many simple names.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on October 20, 2017, 07:44:27 pm
I was surprised "Crypt" was an answer (the only one I
guessed at first) given that "Catacombs" is already a card.
How many expansions is this? 11 or so? And the names aren't e.g. Florbian Catacombs, just plain Catacombs. I mean. There are only so many simple names.

Florbian Catacombs would make a good promo card.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: crj on October 20, 2017, 07:53:26 pm
I thought the actual term of art when it came to dens where naughty people did naughty things was "den of iniquity (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/den_of_iniquity)"?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Marcory on October 20, 2017, 08:25:54 pm
I was surprised "Crypt" was an answer (the only one I
guessed at first) given that "Catacombs" is already a card.
How many expansions is this? 11 or so? And the names aren't e.g. Florbian Catacombs, just plain Catacombs. I mean. There are only so many simple names.

SPOILER ALERT! The next expansion will be Florbian Guilds.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: TonyStark on October 20, 2017, 09:26:01 pm
Lotta wooshing going on in this thread.
Has anyone tried "whoosh"?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 21, 2017, 01:26:05 am
Lotta wooshing going on in this thread.
Has anyone tried "whoosh"?

Yeah, I tried some a couple weeks ago and it gave me a bad headache.  I think I'm just gonna stick with beer.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Watno on October 21, 2017, 05:15:40 am
Most of the German names, which indicate that Vampire, Exorcist, Druid and Bard are female.

Fool - Narr
Werewolf - Werwolf
Shepherd - Schäfer
Night Watchman - Nachtwache
Necromancer - Totenbeschwörer
Tragic Hero - Tragischer Held
Raider - Plünderer
Guardian - Wächter
Tracker - Fährtensucher
Skulk - Schleicher
Tormentor - Peiniger
Cobbler - Schuster
Vampire - Vampirin
Bard - Minnesängerin
Exorcist - Exorzistin
Druid - Druidin
Cemetery - Friedhof
Conclave - Konklave
Crypt - Krypta
Cursed Village - Verfluchtes Dorf
Ghost Town - Geisterstadt
Monastery - Kloster
Sacred Grove - Heiliger Hain
Secret Cave - Geheime Höhle
Pixie - Fee
Changeling - Wechselbalg


missing:

Faithful Hound
Idol
Pooka
Den of Sin
Devil's Workshop
Blessed Village
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: market squire on October 21, 2017, 07:35:32 am
Idol - Götze
Den of Sin - Spelunke (this translation doesn't have the ambiguity discussed above)
Pooka - Puka
Blessed Village - Seliges Dorf


I wasn't serious about Cthulhu

It seems there will be some Cthulhu in there. Just look for the artwork of idol on Joshua Stewart's page (http://www.stewartillustration.com/illustration-.html).  :D
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: BlackHole on October 21, 2017, 07:49:56 am
got the last ones :)

Faithful Hound - Getreuer Hund (old-fashioned, but that's fine) and
Devil's Workshop - Giftküche (I like this one more and more as I think about it)

Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Watno on October 21, 2017, 08:08:55 am
Idol - Götze
Den of Sin - Spelunke (this translation doesn't have the ambiguity discussed above)
Pooka - Puka
Blessed Village - Seliges Dorf


I wasn't serious about Cthulhu

It seems there will be some Cthulhu in there. Just look for the artwork of idol on Joshua Stewart's page (http://www.stewartillustration.com/illustration-.html).  :D

The idol on that page is for some Fantasy Flight Game, not Dominion.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Watno on October 21, 2017, 08:52:51 am
Stewart's page has Conclave and Exorcist for "Reogrande Games" though.

The lady on Conclave looks a lot like Warcrafts's Jaina and Dota's Crystal maiden.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on October 21, 2017, 09:37:19 am
Stewart's page has Conclave and Exorcist for "Reogrande Games" though.
Yeah, but Expedition and Lost Arts also say Reogrande Games.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: aarone46 on October 21, 2017, 10:52:42 am
Cthulu would be cool too....

I would dig a Great Old Ones pile with each card being a different (à la Knights) Lovecraftian ancient.

Oh god, please no.  There's plenty of other Lovecraft stuff in other boardgames - it can stay out of Dominion, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on October 21, 2017, 11:04:53 am
Cthulu would be cool too....

I would dig a Great Old Ones pile with each card being a different (à la Knights) Lovecraftian ancient.

Oh god, please no.  There's plenty of other Lovecraft stuff in other boardgames - it can stay out of Dominion, thank you very much.

Yeah, I get it. It's overdone in boardgaming and if Dominion added something like that now, it would just seem like Donald was jumping on the Cthulhu bandwagon.  So let me qualify my statement with, "if the theme weren't already played out..."
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: Asper on October 21, 2017, 12:58:50 pm
I never got the Chtullu hype. Must be an American thing.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: TonyStark on October 21, 2017, 08:57:09 pm
Devil's Workshop - Giftküche (I like this one more and more as I think about it)
This is already my new favorite card.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: GendoIkari on October 21, 2017, 10:21:09 pm
As cool as the quiz was, it's a little sad that teasers this year means "you get to know the names of most of the cards". Previously it was always interesting information dealing with various quantities of different things and slight information actually related to mechanics.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: LastFootnote on October 21, 2017, 10:45:24 pm
As cool as the quiz was, it's a little sad that teasers this year means "you get to know the names of most of the cards". Previously it was always interesting information dealing with various quantities of different things and slight information actually related to mechanics.

Yeah, I understand. Although as I posted on reddit, Donald's original plan was to post the list of 33 names as the teaser. I proposed the quiz. So uh think of it as a slightly more fun, interactive version of what you could have had, rather than it being slightly less fun than a thing which wasn't going to happen this time.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: J Reggie on October 21, 2017, 11:30:15 pm
As cool as the quiz was, it's a little sad that teasers this year means "you get to know the names of most of the cards". Previously it was always interesting information dealing with various quantities of different things and slight information actually related to mechanics.

Perhaps Donald thought that he couldn't do that kind of teaser for Nocturne without either giving too much away or not really saying anything at all. Or maybe he didn't have the energy to do that kind of teaser. I trust his motives.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: jonaskoelker on October 22, 2017, 09:57:35 am
This kind of teasers are not that fun for non native english speaking people :(
Yes, I realized that right after posting it and am kicking myself. I sincerely apologize! I know it’s probably too little too late, but hopefully soon I can update it with at least the German names and possibly others. Sorry again!
I hope everyone got a version of the quiz in the language they preferred, or will get it while it's still interesting to them.

However, please don't think of "non native english speaking people" as a homogeneous group with respect to this quiz (or language issues related to board games in general). I have a strong preference for having things in the original language, when it's one I'm comfortable with, and this includes English. (This preference of mine applies to board games, movies, books, all sorts of stuff.)

If I were to guess Danish names, I think my strategy would be to first guess the English original names, then guess at how they might have been translated, which is more difficult than just guessing the English names directly. (As I understand it, both English and Danish names would be correct answers in the hypothetical Danish version you would've set up, so my point is doubly hypothetical.)

The fact that I prefer this in English rather than my native language of course doesn't erase the existence of those with the opposite preference. Just, please be aware that people whose native languages doesn't include English don't all have the same preferences. There's probably almost never any risk that efforts to accommodate people with RTT's preferences come at the expense of accommodating people with my preferences, so it's mainly an issue of not conflating distinct sets of people in how you speak (and maybe think), not how you act, just... please be aware of this distinction :)

(Edge case: you make a piece of software. The installer peeks at my system config and sees a Danish keyboard layout, timezone Europe/Copenhagen, and Danish date format—don't assume that I want the Danish names for the menu items, error messages etc.; sure, default the <select> box to "Danish", but let me pick English. It might not occur to you that some people want this if you make the wrong assumption that everyone prefers their native language.)
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: werothegreat on October 22, 2017, 05:36:17 pm
German and Russian (and maybe Japanese?) answers were added because those languages are supported on Dominion Online.  Danish is not yet supported, unfortunately. :(

As cool as the quiz was, it's a little sad that teasers this year means "you get to know the names of most of the cards". Previously it was always interesting information dealing with various quantities of different things and slight information actually related to mechanics.

Perhaps Donald thought that he couldn't do that kind of teaser for Nocturne without either giving too much away or not really saying anything at all. Or maybe he didn't have the energy to do that kind of teaser. I trust his motives.

I think it was more that this set had some cool names that he wanted to show off.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: McGarnacle on October 22, 2017, 05:38:13 pm
German and Russian (and maybe Japanese?) answers were added because those languages are supported on Dominion Online.  Danish is not yet supported, unfortunately. :(

As cool as the quiz was, it's a little sad that teasers this year means "you get to know the names of most of the cards". Previously it was always interesting information dealing with various quantities of different things and slight information actually related to mechanics.

Perhaps Donald thought that he couldn't do that kind of teaser for Nocturne without either giving too much away or not really saying anything at all. Or maybe he didn't have the energy to do that kind of teaser. I trust his motives.

I think it was more that this set had some cool names that he wanted to show off.

Come for the names, stay for the mechanics.
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: ackmondual on October 23, 2017, 01:28:44 am
Owl
Twilight
Teen Romance Crush
Cats!
Moonshine
Pumpkin Juice
Wood Chopper
Night Scout
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: jonaskoelker on October 23, 2017, 11:33:37 am
German and Russian (and maybe Japanese?) answers were added because those languages are supported on Dominion Online. Danish is not yet supported, unfortunately. :(
From a global utilitarian do-the-most-good-for-the-greatest-number-of-people perspective*, I think it's good that German and especially Russian and Japanese has been prioritized over Danish. (* I probably only take this perspective because the status quo already serves me just fine.)

There are few Danes and we're good at English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EF_English_Proficiency_Index (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EF_English_Proficiency_Index))—or maybe it's more accurate to say that a large fraction of us are mediocre-to-sufficiently-decent (or better) at English. There are many Germans, and fewer of them are good at English. There are even more Russians and Japanese, and much fewer of them are good at English. Also, since no Dominion products have been translated to Danish, being both Danish and interested in Dominion predicts being sufficiently good at English, more so than for native speakers of any of the languages on http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/List_of_cards_in_other_languages (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/List_of_cards_in_other_languages).

Likewise, translating to Hungarian does the world a greater favor than translating to Danish (there's more of them, and fewer are good at English). Sure, do both, but if you have to prioritize which one you do first...

Maybe being young correlates with both English proficiency and interest in board games, in which case the English Proficiency Index is probably a sub-perfect guide. Maybe being young correlates with English proficiency more in the eastern-block countries than in the west. But apart from that, what I said is an exact science ;)
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: FemurLemur on October 24, 2017, 05:00:32 pm
Cthulu would be cool too....
I would dig a Great Old Ones pile with each card being a different (à la Knights) Lovecraftian ancient.

So you're hoping for a Night Knight?
Title: Re: Nocturne Teasers
Post by: jonaskoelker on October 24, 2017, 06:52:40 pm
So you're hoping for a Night Knight?

Some would say that's a Really Bad Card Idea:

Night Knight
Action - Attack - Knight - Night - $5
Each other player reveals the top 2 cards of his deck, trashes one of them costing from $3 to $6, and discards the rest. If a Knight is trashed by this, trash this card.