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Dominion => Rules Questions => Topic started by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2017, 01:43:22 pm

Title: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: jamfamsam on July 22, 2017, 01:43:22 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: werothegreat on July 22, 2017, 01:46:33 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Mic Qsenoch on July 22, 2017, 02:12:31 pm
The general rule is that the types listed at the bottom of the randomizer determine the types of the pile. Castles are just "Victory - Castle".
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: singletee on July 22, 2017, 03:01:58 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: werothegreat on July 22, 2017, 03:25:33 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

The exception that proves the rule!
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Awaclus on July 22, 2017, 04:10:25 pm
The exception that proves the rule!

That's not what that phrase means!
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Jeebus on July 27, 2017, 02:21:04 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: singletee on July 27, 2017, 04:20:35 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.

Trader  ;)
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: GendoIkari on July 27, 2017, 04:34:45 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.

Trader  ;)

I thought about this and almost said the same. But no. Based on the Blue Dog rule, if you reveal Trader in response to Seaway, you shouldn't still get the token.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: LastFootnote on July 27, 2017, 04:43:39 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.

Trader  ;)

I thought about this and almost said the same. But no. Based on the Blue Dog rule, if you reveal Trader in response to Seaway, you shouldn't still get the token.

And the token also doesn't go on the Silver pile.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: majiponi on July 28, 2017, 12:59:11 am
Play Ambassador twice to put Opulent Castle and Small Castle (opponent has played Champion).

Seems like a kind of puzzles.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: GendoIkari on July 28, 2017, 11:13:55 am
Play Ambassador twice to put Opulent Castle and Small Castle (opponent has played Champion).

Seems like a kind of puzzles.

I think that does it!
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: werothegreat on July 28, 2017, 11:15:59 am
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.

Doesn't matter. +1 Buy token still goes on the Castle pile.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Jeebus on July 28, 2017, 11:16:10 am
Yeah, I thought about including the Ambassador thing in my first post, but decided it was a bit too far from the actual topic. ::)
Anyway, you don't have to return two Action Castles of course, as long as the top card is already an Action Castle.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: GendoIkari on July 28, 2017, 11:17:47 am
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.

Doesn't matter. +1 Buy token still goes on the Castle pile.

Yes, but the question was if you could put a token on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top.

(I know that wasn't the intent of the question, but this is F.DS, pedantry is what we do.)
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Awaclus on July 28, 2017, 11:52:48 am
That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top

Otherwise you could say that the +1 buy token is on another Castle.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Asper on July 31, 2017, 04:43:54 am
That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top

Otherwise you could say that the +1 buy token is on another Castle.

(Insert Super Mario Bros reference here)
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Awaclus on July 31, 2017, 05:14:00 am
That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top

Otherwise you could say that the +1 buy token is on another Castle.

(Insert Super Mario Bros reference here)

That's the joke.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: Asper on July 31, 2017, 07:14:44 am
That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top

Otherwise you could say that the +1 buy token is on another Castle.

(Insert Super Mario Bros reference here)

That's the joke.

You didn't explain it.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: trivialknot on August 01, 2017, 06:28:20 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.

Trader  ;)

I thought about this and almost said the same. But no. Based on the Blue Dog rule, if you reveal Trader in response to Seaway, you shouldn't still get the token.
This "puzzle" is hilarious.  You know, with 3+ players, there are 2 Small Castles and 2 Opulent Castles.
Title: Re: +Tokens on Castles pile
Post by: GendoIkari on August 01, 2017, 09:46:19 pm
Can one of the +Tokens be put on the Castles pile when one of the Action Castles is on top? For example Small Castle.

No

Yes? Seaway (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Seaway).

Well, technically, the Action card (Small Castle or Opulent Castle) that you gained with Seaway is no longer on top when you put the +1 Buy token on the pile. That could mean that there is another of that Castle still on top, but that's never the case in a 2 player game since there is only one of each.

Trader  ;)

I thought about this and almost said the same. But no. Based on the Blue Dog rule, if you reveal Trader in response to Seaway, you shouldn't still get the token.
This "puzzle" is hilarious.  You know, with 3+ players, there are 2 Small Castles and 2 Opulent Castles.

"but that's never the case in a 2 player game"