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Title: Watchtower - Multiple Buys equals multiple gains?
Post by: DooWopDJ on July 07, 2017, 02:25:46 pm
In the Watchtower wiki Official Rules it states '... You may reveal Watchtower whether you gained the card due to buying it...'

Does that mean if a player has multiple buys, for each 'buy' that player can 're-reveal' the Watchtower card and decide whether to '...to either trash that card or put it onto your deck...'?

Additionally, if I buy a card that has a 'Trashing' effect, do I get the effect of the card that I just gained?  Example: Urchin, can I immediately trash the Urchin to get the Mercenary?
Title: Re: Watchtower - Multiple Buys equals multiple gains?
Post by: Robz888 on July 07, 2017, 02:27:18 pm
To your first question: yes.

To your second question: no.
Title: Re: Watchtower - Multiple Buys equals multiple gains?
Post by: singletee on July 07, 2017, 02:37:59 pm
You can't get a Mercenary by trashing a gained Urchin with Watchtower because Urchin doesn't have a when-trashed effect. It's a when-you-play-an-attack-card-while-this-is-in-play effect, whose effect is trashing the Urchin and gaining a Mercenary if you did so.

However, if you gain a card like Feodum that has a true when-trashed effect, you can trash it with Watchtower to trigger the effect and get the Silvers.
Title: Re: Watchtower - Multiple Buys equals multiple gains?
Post by: liopoil on July 07, 2017, 02:42:21 pm
On the other hand, if it's a card that actually does have a when-trashed effect (rats, fortress, squire, catacombs, sir vander, wow these are all from dark ages) then you DO get that effect. You could also then discard a market square for a gold.

EDIT: sniped by singletee's edit, and he thought of another card (feodum) with such an effect, also from dark ages; almost like trashing was a theme of that expansion.

EDIT2: Oh, and hunting grounds. There are more of these than I thought...
Title: Re: Watchtower - Multiple Buys equals multiple gains?
Post by: aku_chi on July 07, 2017, 02:49:34 pm
Cultist, Rocks, and Crumbling Castle also have an on-trash effect.
Title: Re: Watchtower - Multiple Buys equals multiple gains?
Post by: Kirian on July 07, 2017, 02:51:59 pm
Quote from: aku_chi on July 07, 2017, 02:49:34 pm
Cultist, Rocks, and Crumbling Castle also have an on-trash effect.

Out of interest, Rocks and Crumbling Castle both have when-gain and when-trashed effects.  Do you get both effects?  I believe the answer is yes.
Title: Re: Watchtower - Multiple Buys equals multiple gains?
Post by: Chris is me on July 07, 2017, 04:56:06 pm
Quote from: Kirian on July 07, 2017, 02:51:59 pm
Quote from: aku_chi on July 07, 2017, 02:49:34 pm
Cultist, Rocks, and Crumbling Castle also have an on-trash effect.

Out of interest, Rocks and Crumbling Castle both have when-gain and when-trashed effects.  Do you get both effects?  I believe the answer is yes.

Do you gain the card? Yes.
Do you trash the card? Yes.

It's unambiguous - both things happen, therefore you get both things.