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Title: Possible To Win?
Post by: Seprix on April 05, 2017, 03:55:36 pm
Dominion Puzzle: Is it possible to win this turn?
Game ID: 2593959
Decision: 287

I've gotten up to $19 and 3 Buys, but I haven't found the win yet.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: Awaclus on April 05, 2017, 04:05:09 pm
I got to $21 and 3 Buys. I'm almost (90-93%) certain you can't win that turn — there might be a little room for improvement in my solution but I doubt it'll be enough.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: Seprix on April 05, 2017, 05:53:43 pm
I got to $21 and 3 Buys. I'm almost (90-93%) certain you can't win that turn — there might be a little room for improvement in my solution but I doubt it'll be enough.

Hey, that's cool. What did you do?
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: AdrianHealey on April 05, 2017, 06:37:54 pm
I have 22 and 3 buys.

I did have to sacrifice 2 estates.

Quote
Turn 16 - AdrianHealey
A
starts their turn.
A
gets +1 Action and +1 Coin (Fishing Village
).
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Copper
.
A
discards a Copper
.
L
reveals a Scrying Pool
.
L
discards a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Minion
, an Upgrade
, 3 Scrying Pools
, a Spice Merchant
and 2 Processions
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals an Estate
and a Minion
.
A
puts an Estate
, 2 Minions
, an Upgrade
, 3 Scrying Pools
, a Spice Merchant
and 2 Processions
into their hand.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Scrying Pool
.
A
topdecks a Scrying Pool
.
L
reveals a Minion
.
L
discards a Minion
.
A
reveals a Copper
and a Scrying Pool
.
A
puts a Copper
and a Scrying Pool
into their hand.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Potion
.
A
discards a Potion
.
L
reveals a Minion
.
L
discards a Minion
.
A
reveals a Fishing Village
and a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Potion
.
A
puts a Fishing Village
, a Potion
and a Scrying Pool
into their hand.
A
plays a Fishing Village
.
A
plays a Procession
.
A
plays a Procession
.
A
plays a Spice Merchant
.
A
trashes a Potion
.
A
plays a Spice Merchant
again.
A
trashes a Copper
.
A
trashes a Spice Merchant
.
A
gains a Bandit
.
A
plays a Procession
again.
A
plays an Upgrade
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
draws a Bandit
.
A
trashes an Estate
.
A
gains a Silver
.
A
plays an Upgrade
again.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
draws a Silver
.
A
trashes an Estate
.
A
gains a Silver
.
A
trashes an Upgrade
.
A
trashes a Procession
.
A
gains a Bandit
.
A
plays a Bandit
.
A
gains a Gold
.
L
reveals a Province
and an Upgrade
.
L
discards a Province
and an Upgrade
.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Silver
.
A
discards a Silver
.
L
reveals a Province
.
L
discards a Province
.
A
reveals a Gold
and a Bandit
.
A
puts a Gold
and a Bandit
into their hand.
A
plays a Bandit
.
A
gains a Gold
.
L
reveals a Province
and a Scrying Pool
.
L
discards a Province
and a Scrying Pool
.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Gold
.
A
discards a Gold
.
L
reveals a Minion
.
L
discards a Minion
.
A
reveals a Silver
.
A
puts a Silver
into their hand.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Gold
.
A
discards a Gold
.
L
reveals a Minion
.
L
discards a Minion
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Gold
.
A
puts a Gold
into their hand.
A
plays a Minion
.
A
plays a Minion
.
A
plays 2 Golds
and 3 Silvers
.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: AdrianHealey on April 05, 2017, 06:47:30 pm
Update: 23$, 3 buys en 2 curses in the opponents deck. (Which compensates for the 2 estates I sacrificed, but it still wasn't enough.

https://ibb.co/mBBEiv

Basic method:

process on fishing village, gain procession

process, procession, spice merchant, gain soothsayer, soothsayer

use those to gain extra golds, put 2 curses in the opponent's deck

but still only get 23

Quote

Turn 16 - AdrianHealey
A
starts their turn.
A
gets +1 Action and +1 Coin (Fishing Village
).
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Copper
.
A
discards a Copper
.
L
reveals a Scrying Pool
.
L
discards a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Minion
, an Upgrade
, 3 Scrying Pools
, a Spice Merchant
and 2 Processions
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals an Estate
and a Minion
.
A
puts an Estate
, 2 Minions
, an Upgrade
, 3 Scrying Pools
, a Spice Merchant
and 2 Processions
into their hand.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Scrying Pool
.
A
topdecks a Scrying Pool
.
L
reveals a Minion
.
L
discards a Minion
.
A
reveals a Copper
and a Scrying Pool
.
A
puts a Copper
and a Scrying Pool
into their hand.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
reveals a Potion
.
A
discards a Potion
.
L
reveals a Minion
.
L
discards a Minion
.
A
reveals a Fishing Village
and a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Potion
.
A
puts a Fishing Village
, a Potion
and a Scrying Pool
into their hand.
A
plays a Procession
.
A
plays a Procession
.
A
plays a Fishing Village
.
A
plays a Fishing Village
again.
A
trashes a Fishing Village
.
A
gains a Procession
.
A
plays a Procession
again.
A
plays a Spice Merchant
.
A
trashes a Potion
.
A
plays a Spice Merchant
again.
A
trashes a Copper
.
A
trashes a Spice Merchant
.
A
gains a Soothsayer
.
A
trashes a Procession
.
A
gains a Soothsayer
.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Procession
.
A
topdecks a Procession
.
L
reveals a Province
.
L
discards a Province
.
A
reveals a Procession
and 2 Soothsayers
.
A
puts a Procession
and 2 Soothsayers
into their hand.
A
plays a Soothsayer
.
A
gains a Gold
.
L
gains a Curse
.
L
draws a card
.
A
plays a Soothsayer
.
A
gains a Gold
.
L
gains a Curse
.
L
draws a card
.
A
plays a Procession
.
A
plays an Upgrade
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
draws a Gold
.
A
trashes an Estate
.
A
gains a Silver
.
A
plays an Upgrade
again.
A
draws a Gold
.
A
trashes an Estate
.
A
gains a Silver
.
A
trashes an Upgrade
.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Silver
.
A
discards a Silver
.
L
reveals a Province
.
L
discards a Province
.
A
reveals a Silver
.
A
puts a Silver
into their hand.
A
plays a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Silver
.
A
discards a Silver
.
L
reveals a Scrying Pool
.
L
discards a Scrying Pool
.
A
shuffles their deck.
A
reveals a Silver
.
A
puts a Silver
into their hand.
A
plays a Minion
.
A
plays a Minion
.
A
plays 3 Silvers
and 2 Golds
.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: AdrianHealey on April 05, 2017, 06:57:49 pm
23/3 again with a slight modifier. Sad.

The main backbone is gaining another procession by processing fising village, which also gains coins, gaining a gold gainer by processing spice merchant and gaining a minion by the second processed procession.

But I can't get to 24.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: ThetaSigma12 on April 05, 2017, 09:49:35 pm
Sacrificing an Estate gives you +2 VP, so it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: AdrianHealey on April 05, 2017, 10:26:49 pm
Really? Wat event is active?
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: Awaclus on April 06, 2017, 12:03:14 am
Sacrificing an Estate gives you +2 VP, so it doesn't matter.

He's talking about sacrificing, not Sacrificing.

Really? Wat event is active?

He's talking about Sacrificing, not sacrificing.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: AdrianHealey on April 06, 2017, 08:11:45 am
Please, keep your fake autism posts to yourself. I almost thought you had something useful to contribute to the puzzle.

User was warned for this post
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: LaLight on April 06, 2017, 08:23:35 am
Please, keep your fake autism posts to yourself. I almost thought you had something useful to contribute to the puzzle.

Adrian, I am really sorry, but you're wrong. Obviously there was a misunderstanding between you and Theta, where one of you meant "Sacrifice" as a Dominion card and the second meant "sacrifice" as he had to trash estates for a result. Awaclus clearly tried to solve tis misunderstanding.

Sorry again, I just don't like when people are mad at each other though no reason for this exist (in that very case)
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: AdrianHealey on April 06, 2017, 08:39:17 am
I am aware of the misunderstanding, it's the style of his fake personage posting that annoys the hell out of me, so I am kindly asking to refrain from doing it against me. Act like a normal person.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: LaLight on April 06, 2017, 08:41:29 am
I am aware of the misunderstanding, it's the style of his fake personage posting that annoys the hell out of me, so I am kindly asking to refrain from doing it against me. Act like a normal person.

I do not really agree it was "kindly" and I do not agree that "normal" is a term that means the same for every person. But whatever, I hate these dialogues, twas my opinion. Have a good day :)
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: AdrianHealey on April 06, 2017, 08:49:17 am
I don't disagree: maybe he thinks it's normal. But what remains is: I ask him kindly not to respond to me in that fashion. It's an easy request, I think.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: theory on April 06, 2017, 10:21:11 am
I am aware of the misunderstanding, it's the style of his fake personage posting that annoys the hell out of me, so I am kindly asking to refrain from doing it against me. Act like a normal person.

I do not really agree it was "kindly" and I do not agree that "normal" is a term that means the same for every person. But whatever, I hate these dialogues, twas my opinion. Have a good day :)
What this guy said.
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: Seprix on April 06, 2017, 11:04:01 am
Well, geez..

Anyways, I was hoping it was possible to get to $24. Hey, we got to $23. That was pretty close!  ;D
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: Kirian on April 06, 2017, 01:50:49 pm
Dominion Puzzle: Is it possible to win this turn?
Game ID: 2593959
Decision: 287

I've gotten up to $19 and 3 Buys, but I haven't found the win yet.

How does one look up the game from the ID?
Title: Re: Possible To Win?
Post by: Awaclus on April 06, 2017, 02:22:54 pm
Dominion Puzzle: Is it possible to win this turn?
Game ID: 2593959
Decision: 287

I've gotten up to $19 and 3 Buys, but I haven't found the win yet.

How does one look up the game from the ID?

New Table -> Load Old Game.