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Title: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 07, 2016, 02:22:28 pm
So I'm curious where people are buying Empires, and when these games will ship. So if you've pre ordered it from somewhere, can you post where you pre ordered it from, and post when you get your shipping notice? Or if you bought it from a FLGS or whatever, post when the games arrived in store? Some of us (heh) are still trying to figure out where and when to buy the game, and want to get it sooner rather than later. I figured by crowdsourcing this information and by maintaining a thread where people can post links to stores as soon as copies become available, we'll all be able to get Empires as fast as possible.

Maybe this is a bad idea; I've had them before...
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: flaquito on June 07, 2016, 02:29:05 pm
I ordered from CoolStuffInc. I can post back when they tell me it's shipping.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: SuperHans on June 07, 2016, 02:42:01 pm
I ordered from CoolStuffInc. I can post back when they tell me it's shipping.
I did as well. I have always been pleased with how quickly CSI ships after the expansions are released.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: flaquito on June 07, 2016, 02:43:47 pm
I ordered from CoolStuffInc. I can post back when they tell me it's shipping.
I did as well. I have always been pleased with how quickly CSI ships after the expansions are released.

Plus, there's just something special about getting emails and packages from "CSI."
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 07, 2016, 03:27:09 pm
If CSI is where it ships first I'll order it there, but paying $20 for two day shipping really kills it for me. Ground is $8 but that's six days to where I live.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Aleimon Thimble on June 07, 2016, 03:41:16 pm
Yesterday, I visited a local board game store in Utrecht (The Netherlands), but they could not yet give me any information about when Empires arrives here, neither about the English nor the Dutch version.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 08, 2016, 07:50:02 am
After reading elsewhere on the forums that it's available on Amazon Prime, with a 1 day processing delay, I decided to order it there, taking a risk that it would ship before the weekend if I paid $8 for one day shipping. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: papadjango on June 08, 2016, 10:14:51 am
This is what I got mailed today:

Hello again,

Looks like the manufacturer has has pushed the date back again on the item. I just got off the phone with my supplier and they still have not received their order. Just so your aware, when a manufacturer holds the day of release for an item they hold that release until all vendors can receive their product at the same time. So no one vendor gets the items before another. So with that said I will send you a message for shipping as soon as I get the product in my hands. Thanks for your patience.

Kyle / J4F
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 08, 2016, 10:43:45 am
Miniature Market, and no.

I ordered Empires from Amazon for a test, and I would have gotten it 5-6 days from the order if from Amazon (this was yesterday, so 4-5 now). Assuming most vendors get the thing at the same time, I assume that is how long it would take to get Empires.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 08, 2016, 11:17:00 am
For what it's worth, as of right now, my Amazon 1 day shipping order says "Arriving Friday", but is still of course awaiting shipment. It is expected to ship June 9th.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 08, 2016, 11:18:02 am
For what it's worth, as of right now, my Amazon 1 day shipping order says "Arriving Friday", but is still of course awaiting shipment. It is expected to ship June 9th.

Worth a lot to me.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 08, 2016, 11:38:00 am
My FLGS says it might have it as early as tomorrow!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: SuperHans on June 08, 2016, 11:42:52 am
FWIW, I called CSI this morning and they said all the information they have is that it will arrive by the end of July. I canceled my preorder and ordered from Amazon.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: flaquito on June 08, 2016, 11:58:39 am
FWIW, I called CSI this morning and they said all the information they have is that it will arrive by the end of July. I canceled my preorder and ordered from Amazon.

Oh, ouch. I actually just emailed them asking the same thing before I saw this. I'll post if the answer is anything different, but I might also have to cancel there, as much as I'd like to support a F(not-so-)LGS.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 08, 2016, 12:01:35 pm
I just got a notification that my package shipped and will arrive tomorrow. This is a pleasant surprise. Amazon claims the package has left the Amazon facility; Fedex just claims the shipping label has been created.

If you want Empires as soon as possible I would recommend Amazon Prime.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 08, 2016, 12:41:02 pm
I just got a notification that my package shipped and will arrive tomorrow. This is a pleasant surprise. Amazon claims the package has left the Amazon facility; Fedex just claims the shipping label has been created.

If you want Empires as soon as possible I would recommend Amazon Prime.

!!!!!!

Well, I guess I'll not order from Miniature Market in the future. They're painfully slow. They have received my order, but there is no shipment yet. Man, this is taking awhile.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 08, 2016, 01:37:58 pm
Ordered with Amazon 2-day yesterday. Originally expecting the delivery on Monday. It's now shipped, arriving Friday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: mith on June 08, 2016, 04:10:49 pm
My FLGS (http://www.madnessgames.com/) had copies today. Am I the first non-special person on DS to have a copy?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: mail-mi on June 08, 2016, 06:20:34 pm
Ordered with Amazon 2-day yesterday. Originally expecting the delivery on Monday. It's now shipped, arriving Friday.

Mine says it's going to arrive sometime from the 10th to the 15th
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Awaclus on June 08, 2016, 06:29:33 pm

Mine says it's going to arrive sometime from the 10th to the 15th

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/mine%20arrives.png)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: J Reggie on June 08, 2016, 06:30:29 pm
Ordered with Amazon 2-day yesterday. Originally expecting the delivery on Monday. It's now shipped, arriving Friday.

Mine says it's going to arrive sometime from the 10th to the 15th

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/mine%20arrives.png)

Should have put a picture of Mint  :'(
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Awaclus on June 08, 2016, 06:31:37 pm
Should have put a picture of Mint  :'(

Here's a picture of mint:

(https://www.organicfacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Mint2.jpg)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 08, 2016, 08:44:58 pm
Ordered with Amazon 2-day yesterday. Originally expecting the delivery on Monday. It's now shipped, arriving Friday.

Mine says it's going to arrive sometime from the 10th to the 15th

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/mine%20arrives.png)

Should have put a picture of Mint  :'(

It is a picture of Mint, I don't know what you're talking about...

My package did actually arrive at a FedEx facility this afternoon by the way, so we know Amazon actually got their copies of Empires and started sending them out. No idea why other retailers wouldn't have theirs already.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 08, 2016, 08:56:02 pm

Mine says it's going to arrive sometime from the 10th to the 15th

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/mine%20arrives.png)

What kind of font is that!? That is the ugliest font in the history of the world. You're hard on everyone, Awaclus. I expected much better from you than that font. Man, at least use comic sans or papyrus or even copperplate for the ironic post. But that font, ugh, Awaclus, ugh. Why on earth did you pick that one!? I think this is the worst thing you've ever done. I think you could go into jail for a couple months for that font.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Beyond Awesome on June 08, 2016, 09:44:47 pm
My store might have it in tomorrow.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: mith on June 08, 2016, 10:52:29 pm
Card quality is definitely better than Adventures, at least for my copies. I just got the kiddo to bed, so no time yet to compare to the rest of the cards, but these are not the bendy cardstock at least.

Here's hoping we actually find time to play it sometime soon. ;)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 09, 2016, 12:29:15 am
Card quality is definitely better than Adventures, at least for my copies. I just got the kiddo to bed, so no time yet to compare to the rest of the cards, but these are not the bendy cardstock at least.

Here's hoping we actually find time to play it sometime soon. ;)

I'm miffed at mirthful mith for having the set before me. :(
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: enfynet on June 09, 2016, 04:10:02 am
I am giving my FLGS a couple more days before I decide to order elsewhere.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: aku_chi on June 09, 2016, 08:49:49 am
I ordered Empires on Amazon from Fun Family Games on Tuesday.  It shipped yesterday.  I got slow shipping, so it's not expected to arrive until next week.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: blaisepascal on June 09, 2016, 10:06:33 am
Last night my FLGS verified that their supplier had it, and that supplier normally delivers to them on Thursday or Friday. The sales-critter was also hoping it had come in today, as he is planning on getting it as a gift for friends for this weekend. I will check with them again today. This is the same FLGS that earlier said that they had been told "End of June" by their supplier.

With luck, I'll have it in my hands by Friday evening.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 09, 2016, 11:49:59 am
Anybody in the UK heard anything yet? I'm guessing there's a container sloshing around in the mid-Atlantic still? /-8
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: AJD on June 09, 2016, 12:44:23 pm
Called my FLGS yesterday and they said they had no idea when it'd be in. Contemplated cancelling my order and getting it from Amazon. FLGS called me just now and said they had it.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: DLloyd09 on June 09, 2016, 02:56:39 pm
CSI now has it in stock. I wrote to them just a few minutes ago to ask if there was an estimated shipping date, and they wrote back extremely promptly to say that it was being shipped out today, so hopefully I'll have my hands on it on Monday!

(Edit: FedEx says ETA Tuesday, not Monday)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: enfynet on June 09, 2016, 03:13:22 pm
My FLGS is hoping to see it by the middle of next week.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jsmarvin on June 09, 2016, 03:20:53 pm
Just received my overnight delivery from Amazon that I ordered yesterday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 09, 2016, 03:41:34 pm
I ordered from Amazon last night with regular Prime shipping after my FLGS said they did not expect to have copies until middle of next week. I got shipping notice today, but right now it says it won't arrive until Monday.  I am optimistic based on the reports here that it will show up tomorrow or Saturday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jsmarvin on June 09, 2016, 03:51:02 pm
I ordered from Amazon last night with regular Prime shipping after my FLGS said they did not expect to have copies until middle of next week. I got shipping notice today, but right now it says it won't arrive until Monday.  I am optimistic based on the reports here that it will show up tomorrow or Saturday.
You might be right if that was just your first notice. But if the notice you are talking about is the one with a tracking number, then their estimate is probably correct. My first notice said Monday (that's why I chose overnight because without it they were saying Tuesday, and I wanted it for game night on Monday). Then when I got the shipping notice with tracking number they said it would come today, which it did. I got both notices yesterday within a few hours of each other. If you didn't get a notice until today you may have ordered too late to meet yesterdays shipping deadline.

Also, it will depend on the shipper. UPS and FedEx are pretty good with their estimates. But regular Prime shipping sometimes goes via USPS. A lot of people complain about that, but I've had good luck with them. Sometimes I even get things on Sunday, even though that seems kind of extreme, since default Prime shipping doesn't guarantee delivery on either Saturday or Sunday. In a lot of cases I wasn't expecting them to deliver on Sunday and almost felt bad that some postal employee had to drive to my neighborhood just to deliver some simple thing I ordered via Prime.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 09, 2016, 04:15:45 pm
I have never had a prime package that didn't meet its estimate on order. More than half the time it's a day early too.

My game just arrived so I'm gonna go home and do stuff to it. Does anyone care about unboxing pictures or video these days? I don't think so really. Post here soon if there's anything you want me to document.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: SuperHans on June 09, 2016, 04:28:41 pm
Anyone know if the kickstarter linked below is planning on making plastic dividers for Empires?

www.kickstarter.com/projects/483649042/dominion-card-divider-subscription

EDIT: Yes. http://www.spielgeek.com/empires.html
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 09, 2016, 04:39:39 pm
I ordered from Amazon last night with regular Prime shipping after my FLGS said they did not expect to have copies until middle of next week. I got shipping notice today, but right now it says it won't arrive until Monday.  I am optimistic based on the reports here that it will show up tomorrow or Saturday.
You might be right if that was just your first notice. But if the notice you are talking about is the one with a tracking number, then their estimate is probably correct. My first notice said Monday (that's why I chose overnight because without it they were saying Tuesday, and I wanted it for game night on Monday). Then when I got the shipping notice with tracking number they said it would come today, which it did. I got both notices yesterday within a few hours of each other. If you didn't get a notice until today you may have ordered too late to meet yesterdays shipping deadline.

Also, it will depend on the shipper. UPS and FedEx are pretty good with their estimates. But regular Prime shipping sometimes goes via USPS. A lot of people complain about that, but I've had good luck with them. Sometimes I even get things on Sunday, even though that seems kind of extreme, since default Prime shipping doesn't guarantee delivery on either Saturday or Sunday. In a lot of cases I wasn't expecting them to deliver on Sunday and almost felt bad that some postal employee had to drive to my neighborhood just to deliver some simple thing I ordered via Prime.

The tracking number I got is UPS. It says Monday on Amazon, but UPS doesn't have it going yet. I am pretty sure UPS delivers on Saturday, so I think that the Prime guaranteed date might be pessimistic here. If it is not, I will sadly have to wait until Monday.  I may also be able to contact the UPS distribution and have them hold it there since it is very close to me, and might shave a day (or the whole) weekend off by picking it up myself.

Edit: It is showing up on UPS now, and does look like it isn't going quite yet. I'll just keep my fingers crossed until UPS updates with a delivery date.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 09, 2016, 04:58:20 pm
My package from Amazon is currently in Michigan, and should be here sometime tomorrow!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: mith on June 09, 2016, 05:25:20 pm
Card quality is definitely better than Adventures, at least for my copies. I just got the kiddo to bed, so no time yet to compare to the rest of the cards, but these are not the bendy cardstock at least.

Here's hoping we actually find time to play it sometime soon. ;)

I'm miffed at mirthful mith for having the set before me. :(

If I'd had more time last night, I'd have taken a bunch of pictures just to really get on everyone's nerves. ;)

Wife and I might play a game or two tonight if baby cooperates. I will actually be celebrating my 4000th play (whether or not that's accurate, who knows, but I've got 3999 logged on BGG).
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 09, 2016, 05:53:21 pm
Short version: if you're at all concerned about quality issues, don't be. It's great. The new tokens feel nicer and more distinct than the old ones. Cards are fine. Buy it.

Didn't realize how much I miss holding physical unsleeved cards until I unboxed this. Maybe I should unsleeve my collection and replace my iffier Adventures cards.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on June 09, 2016, 06:14:08 pm
Just learned that my FLGS received its copies today.  I'm heading out to get it momentarily.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: couch on June 09, 2016, 06:40:47 pm
Now in available stock at Cardhaus.  Hopefully my order will ship out no later than tomorrow.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jamfamsam on June 09, 2016, 06:40:56 pm
Just went to order on Amazon but they said it is not in stock with an estimated arrival date of June 15.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Beyond Awesome on June 10, 2016, 01:31:43 am
So, the card quality is better than Adventures, but it seems to be made of the same stock. If you feel everything up to Guilds, the stock feels different. It doesn't have the bendiness of Adventures, but still not the same as other sets. Regardless, just a minor quibble. I sleeve my cards anyway.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 10, 2016, 09:10:23 am
Do the backs match earlier sets for colour, now? Do the corner radii match? Do the cards curl the same way as earlier ones?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 10, 2016, 09:45:25 am
Do the backs match earlier sets for colour, now? Do the corner radii match? Do the cards curl the same way as earlier ones?

Yup, yup, and they certainly seemed to bend like other cards on first feel but I guess I'm not an expert on card bendiness. They didn't feel loose like Adventures cards.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 10, 2016, 11:09:10 am
Sorry, I mean: take a, stick it on a flat table. Either the middle of the card will stand pround of the table with the ends in contact, or the ends will stand proud with the middle in contact. Depending on which way up you lay the card.

I forget offhand which is which, but most Dominion cards curl one way, but the Prince promo and Adventures curl the other. So, having shuffled, you can choose whether to topdeck an Adventures card or not by cutting either from the ends or from the edges. This is worse when playing with just Prince and earlier sets, of course - who wouldn't want to topdeck their Prince?

For someone who's dabbled a little in magic tricks as a kid, this kind of card control technique is second nature, which makes it really hard to play fair. /-8
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: LastFootnote on June 10, 2016, 11:11:24 am
Sorry, I mean: take a, stick it on a flat table. Either the middle of the card will stand pround of the table with the ends in contact, or the ends will stand proud with the middle in contact. Depending on which way up you lay the card.

I forget offhand which is which, but most Dominion cards curl one way, but the Prince promo and Adventures curl the other. So, having shuffled, you can choose whether to topdeck an Adventures card or not by cutting either from the ends or from the edges. This is worse when playing with just Prince and earlier sets, of course - who wouldn't want to topdeck their Prince?

For someone who's dabbled a little in magic tricks as a kid, this kind of card control technique is second nature, which makes it really hard to play fair. /-8

As it turns out, (the first run of) Prince was printed in Germany. So, is there a chance this is in your mind? Or that you bent the cards that way?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: mith on June 10, 2016, 11:15:36 am
I don't sleeve my cards, and I could notice a slight difference in the feel playing last night, particularly when my deck was about half starting cards and half Empires. I didn't notice a difference in look, just how they felt in my hands and how they shuffled.

I've never really noticed the pre-Adventures cards bend much either way (other than from being shuffled), and I didn't notice that with Empires either. My Adventures cards all have a noticeable bend, though.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 10, 2016, 11:36:50 am
As it turns out, (the first run of) Prince was printed in Germany. So, is there a chance this is in your mind? Or that you bent the cards that way?
First time I mentioned this, Donald X. said that and it came as a surprise to me, but the effect's definitely there. I'll try to remember to take some photos.

One possible cause is the different packaging of promo cards (though Stash doesn't have the problem). Another is handling of the promo by the BGG store. But I have a strong suspicion the cause is that Prince was printed the other way up to other Dominion cards. (Which is a different issue from printing at right angles.)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Beyond Awesome on June 10, 2016, 11:43:20 am
Maybe you have a second printing of Prince.

Anyway, as has been mentioned, Empires has fixed the bendiness and also the card backs, it's just the card stock is slightly different in texture from pre-Adventures. Adventures and Empires have different card stock it seems, but this really only makes a difference for Empires if you don't sleeve.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 10, 2016, 12:06:57 pm
I don't sleeve.

I can't. Being late to Dominion, the expansions I own get played with base cards and earlier sets owned by friends who don't sleeve. To start sleeving, I'd either have to persuade all of them to sleeve (and to agree on which sleeves to use!), or invest hundreds of pounds/dollars/whatever in buying the earlier sets myself.

Which reminds me: do sleeved cards fit in the Empires organiser?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 10, 2016, 12:22:02 pm
I said this in the streaming subforum, but I'll be doing an unboxing stream later today if my copy comes in by the time I get off of work.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 10, 2016, 12:29:47 pm
I don't sleeve.

I can't. Being late to Dominion, the expansions I own get played with base cards and earlier sets owned by friends who don't sleeve. To start sleeving, I'd either have to persuade all of them to sleeve (and to agree on which sleeves to use!), or invest hundreds of pounds/dollars/whatever in buying the earlier sets myself.

Which reminds me: do sleeved cards fit in the Empires organiser?

Sleeved cards do not fit in the organizer, nope.

I really don't think the Empires cards are different enough to warrant sleeving if you don't already (I do). They're fine. They don't feel thinner or anything like the Adventures cards do.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 10, 2016, 12:57:41 pm
Sleeved cards do not fit in the organizer, nope.
Hmm. I'll just bet that means they've not solved the problem of the inlay rubbing against cards, either? /-8
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 10, 2016, 01:25:02 pm
Change of plans - streaming in 15-20 minutes!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 10, 2016, 01:38:00 pm
Starting now.  https://www.twitch.tv/werothegreat
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 10, 2016, 02:21:49 pm
Pictures:

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/13442377_10156939672770545_7721646863319363111_n.jpg?oh=81369af6eb0f3b6cc3ecba9e5b19f649&oe=57CC4B9E)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13442319_10156939675070545_4152439646490419801_n.jpg?oh=fa199d4899db136ef49da1e87391c579&oe=580152D0)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 10, 2016, 02:22:11 pm
Sleeved cards do not fit in the organizer, nope.
Hmm. I'll just bet that means they've not solved the problem of the inlay rubbing against cards, either? /-8

No, just that my sleeves are too much longer than the cards to fit in. The inlay isn't really the constraint.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 10, 2016, 02:36:10 pm
And video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NjbfUJmYPE
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 10, 2016, 02:38:24 pm
Miniature Market: Our copies will be arriving early this coming week. :(
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 10, 2016, 02:57:41 pm
Every game store in my area is either getting it next week, has no idea when, or didn't even know Dominion was out of retirement ("didn't that game end 3 years ago?").

My Amazon order is definitely not showing up until Monday. This is most frustrating because almost all my Prime orders come USPS, and they deliver them on Saturday, but this one is coming UPS, and they don't (unless you paid for Saturday delivery, which Prime does not include).

Oh well...
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: flaquito on June 10, 2016, 04:02:20 pm
Mine also shipped from CSI yesterday, with a FedEx delivery estimate of Tuesday.

Edit: Just noticed that it's Smartpost, so who knows when it will actually arrive.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 10, 2016, 04:06:27 pm
Miniature Market: Our copies will be arriving early this coming week. :(

...  >:(
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Voltaire on June 10, 2016, 04:22:48 pm
My FLGS (and former employer!) got Empires in today (Chicago). Impromptu date night game night tonight, it seems.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jamfamsam on June 10, 2016, 05:28:22 pm
Just got a call from my local game store. My copy is in!!!! Uncle's Games in the Pacific Northwest.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Donald X. on June 10, 2016, 05:46:46 pm
Maybe you have a second printing of Prince.

Anyway, as has been mentioned, Empires has fixed the bendiness and also the card backs, it's just the card stock is slightly different in texture from pre-Adventures. Adventures and Empires have different card stock it seems, but this really only makes a difference for Empires if you don't sleeve.
I believe all copies of Prince were printed at Altenburger (though someday that won't be true).

The card stock should be identical between Empires and Altenburger-printed sets. The reason is, Cartamundi bought ELM, and we said, we want the identical card stock, surely that's possible at this point, and they said, yes it is and okay. So, it would be a big surprise if it wasn't identical.

I remember when that guy said his Intrigue cards were thinner, and we measured thickness and they were not, but did not realize he was reporting a symptom not the disease, that they were not thinner but were different (in particular bendier). So maybe "these cards are a different card stock" is a symptom of something else, some actual difference, dunno. It's not a symptom of them being a different card stock though.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Voltaire on June 10, 2016, 05:48:24 pm
There's also a chance that they feel different because they are brand-new. Obviously the cards will stand out because they are fresh. I'll find out tonight myself.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 10, 2016, 06:39:14 pm
There's also a chance that they feel different because they are brand-new. Obviously the cards will stand out because they are fresh. I'll find out tonight myself.

My Empires cards definitely feel thicker and less bendy than my Adventures cards did when I first opened them, and still do.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jsh357 on June 10, 2016, 06:45:18 pm
No empires near me yet. My store didn't even know about it.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 10, 2016, 06:51:39 pm
No empires near me yet. My store didn't even know about it.

One store knew about it, but the shipment was delayed until next week.  The rest didn't know about the expansion.  One hadn't even heard of Dominion!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Beyond Awesome on June 10, 2016, 06:58:07 pm
Maybe you have a second printing of Prince.

Anyway, as has been mentioned, Empires has fixed the bendiness and also the card backs, it's just the card stock is slightly different in texture from pre-Adventures. Adventures and Empires have different card stock it seems, but this really only makes a difference for Empires if you don't sleeve.
I believe all copies of Prince were printed at Altenburger (though someday that won't be true).

The card stock should be identical between Empires and Altenburger-printed sets. The reason is, Cartamundi bought ELM, and we said, we want the identical card stock, surely that's possible at this point, and they said, yes it is and okay. So, it would be a big surprise if it wasn't identical.

I remember when that guy said his Intrigue cards were thinner, and we measured thickness and they were not, but did not realize he was reporting a symptom not the disease, that they were not thinner but were different (in particular bendier). So maybe "these cards are a different card stock" is a symptom of something else, some actual difference, dunno. It's not a symptom of them being a different card stock though.

Comparing my cards to Scout which I've never used IRL, Empires cards do feel different. Not bendier. Just different.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 10, 2016, 07:16:38 pm
Sleeved cards do not fit in the organizer, nope.
Hmm. I'll just bet that means they've not solved the problem of the inlay rubbing against cards, either? /-8

No, just that my sleeves are too much longer than the cards to fit in. The inlay isn't really the constraint.
I mean: the new organizer and inlay used for Adventures had three problems: flimsiness, not accommodating sleeved cards and the inlay rubbing against the cards.

It didn't seem plausible that they would fix one of those problems without fixing the others at the same time. And, sure enough, I see cards rubbing against the inlay in werothegreat's photo. Harumph.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: markusin on June 10, 2016, 07:18:36 pm
Maybe you have a second printing of Prince.

Anyway, as has been mentioned, Empires has fixed the bendiness and also the card backs, it's just the card stock is slightly different in texture from pre-Adventures. Adventures and Empires have different card stock it seems, but this really only makes a difference for Empires if you don't sleeve.
I believe all copies of Prince were printed at Altenburger (though someday that won't be true).

The card stock should be identical between Empires and Altenburger-printed sets. The reason is, Cartamundi bought ELM, and we said, we want the identical card stock, surely that's possible at this point, and they said, yes it is and okay. So, it would be a big surprise if it wasn't identical.

I remember when that guy said his Intrigue cards were thinner, and we measured thickness and they were not, but did not realize he was reporting a symptom not the disease, that they were not thinner but were different (in particular bendier). So maybe "these cards are a different card stock" is a symptom of something else, some actual difference, dunno. It's not a symptom of them being a different card stock though.

Comparing my cards to Scout which I've never used IRL, Empires cards do feel different. Not bendier. Just different.

If the card stock is the same, then maybe the ink is different somehow?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: LastFootnote on June 10, 2016, 07:20:55 pm
If Prince feels the same as Empires, then it's possible that Altenburger themselves changed the card stock post-Guilds.

I'm glad I sleeve, regardless.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 10, 2016, 07:24:53 pm
If Prince feels the same as Empires
Disclaimer: all my Dominion expansions/promos are at the house of friends who have base cards. I can't just break them out to check, but...

To me, Prince does not feel the same as Empires. It feels like earlier cards in all respects except the curl being different. Oh, and the whites on the face of the card looking a little more saturatedhigher in value than usual, but that could easily be an optical illusion caused by all the white in the artwork.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: dbclick on June 10, 2016, 09:23:17 pm
Just got my copy - here's a rundown of the interesting points:

Fortunately, the cards seem to be fine, and that is what counts.  :D
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jamfamsam on June 11, 2016, 12:28:23 am
Being one who really has a problem with the Adventures card bendiness, I notice no significant difference in the Empires cards versus the other sets that aren't Adventures (or reprints).

I am very happy with the cards.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on June 11, 2016, 12:29:48 am
I ordered from Nomad Camp co. and saw my Empires cards remarkably quickly. I would recommend!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: RevanFan on June 11, 2016, 03:11:24 am
My local game shop said they'd have it yesterday. They didn't. Drove 40 minutes (yes, that's the closest game shop) to get it and all. Ended up getting an X-Wing expansion so my trip wasn't worthless. Anyway, they said they wouldn't have it until Tuesday, so I just ordered it from Amazon. Won't have to drive 40 minutes to get it now, anyway.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Harley_Beckett on June 11, 2016, 03:23:42 am
I ordered from Nomad Camp co. and saw my Empires cards remarkably quickly. I would recommend!

That's because it went straight to the top of your deck.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 11, 2016, 06:26:57 am
Sleeved cards do not fit in the organizer, nope.
Hmm. I'll just bet that means they've not solved the problem of the inlay rubbing against cards, either? /-8

No, just that my sleeves are too much longer than the cards to fit in. The inlay isn't really the constraint.

Just wanted to contradict myself - the sleeves apparently do fit in the box if the inlay is removed. I hadn't noticed this until yesterday, so I guess the "problem" of the inlay being wide is still there. Whatever.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: AJD on June 11, 2016, 09:29:33 am
Miniature Market: Our copies will be arriving early this coming week. :(

Miniature Market: you can't buy this if you have any Gold in play?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: LastFootnote on June 11, 2016, 10:36:14 am
I ordered from Nomad Camp co. and saw my Empires cards remarkably quickly. I would recommend!

That's because it went straight to the top of your deck.

Yes, that's the joke.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Harley_Beckett on June 11, 2016, 11:56:40 am
I ordered from Nomad Camp co. and saw my Empires cards remarkably quickly. I would recommend!

That's because it went straight to the top of your deck.

Yes, that's the joke.

*furiously searches the internet for an online board game store called 'Nomad Camp' to prove LFN wrong*

...

*slinks off back to his hole in shame*
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 11, 2016, 12:36:58 pm
You cannot topdeck a boardgame (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Nomad+Camp/@46.6690344,25.005784,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x474a513ea1245f43:0xa158bae3eb76c965!8m2!3d46.6690307!4d25.0079727), but you can topdeck some food from Romania. It's got a pool, an outside place to eat, and they even have pizza. Overall, the locals recommend it.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Watno on June 11, 2016, 12:55:19 pm
I ordered from Nomad Camp co. and saw my Empires cards remarkably quickly. I would recommend!

That's because it went straight to the top of your deck.

Yes, that's the joke.

It would make more sense to order from Watchtower or Royal Seal, since Nomad Camp can only put itself on top.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 11, 2016, 01:03:30 pm
Plot twist: Roadrunner is an orphan living in a board game shop
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: enfynet on June 11, 2016, 03:21:06 pm
Plot twist: Roadrunner is a Scout living in a board game shop
FTFY
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: InformationLandmine on June 11, 2016, 05:27:08 pm
I got my copy from my LGS yesterday, but unfortunately all the cards from one of the three packets are bowed. Has anybody else had this issue? I had this issue with my entire Dark Ages set and never did anything about it, which I regret now because  the Dark Ages cards are clearly distinguished from any others when in your deck because the bow is so prevalent. I really don't want to let it slide this time and I'm wondering who I should contact.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Throwaway_bicycling on June 11, 2016, 06:03:40 pm

Mine says it's going to arrive sometime from the 10th to the 15th

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/mine%20arrives.png)

So what they say is true: Mine is just really slow.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Donald X. on June 11, 2016, 06:08:59 pm
I got my copy from my LGS yesterday, but unfortunately all the cards from one of the three packets are bowed. Has anybody else had this issue? I had this issue with my entire Dark Ages set and never did anything about it, which I regret now because  the Dark Ages cards are clearly distinguished from any others when in your deck because the bow is so prevalent. I really don't want to let it slide this time and I'm wondering who I should contact.
I'm not quite sure what your symptom is, but you can contact Rio Grande Games directly through their website, and they will replace anything messed up. Be sure to specify which packet it is (you don't remember the color of the stripe, but what the cards are will do).
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 11, 2016, 06:46:41 pm
First game!

(https://scontent.forf1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13415580_10156944670075545_1357602605142567551_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: mail-mi on June 11, 2016, 07:55:48 pm
Mine says it's going to arrive sometime from the 10th to the 15th

Got it today! :D
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Roadrunner7671 on June 11, 2016, 07:59:29 pm
I ordered from Nomad Camp co. and saw my Empires cards remarkably quickly. I would recommend!

That's because it went straight to the top of your deck.

Yes, that's the joke.

It would make more sense to order from Watchtower or Royal Seal, since Nomad Camp can only put itself on top.
I thought about that but I wanted the joke to be a little harder to see so that someone could have the glorious job of explaining it.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: ben_king on June 11, 2016, 09:07:58 pm
Thanks Donald for an awesome expansion!

My wife and I played a bunch of Empires games in the last two days and we love it.  It sounds weird to say, but I really enjoy the feel of the tokens -- nice and heavy, but smooth.  For anybody worrying about the quality after Adventures, no need to.

Of course the game awesome too.  It's going to take a long time to really get a handle on how to play these cards well.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: enfynet on June 11, 2016, 11:45:21 pm
First game!

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I, uh, didn't seem to get an invite.  ???
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 11, 2016, 11:47:03 pm
Sacrifice seems to be pretty strong.  Legionary is a bitch, particularly when Wedding is on the board.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: singletee on June 12, 2016, 12:46:55 am
First game!

(Empires cards IRL)

Are the debt tokens metal? For some reason I thought they were cardboard like the adventures tokens.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: enfynet on June 12, 2016, 12:50:53 am
All the tokens in Empires are metal.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Awaclus on June 12, 2016, 06:33:34 am
All the tokens in Empires are metal.

\m/
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Orange on June 12, 2016, 11:33:51 am
Just got my copy - here's a rundown of the interesting points:
  • My inlay came bent and damaged :'(. This is clearly not the case for all copies, as Wero's isn't. Inlay is same size as all prior ones and is made of the same not-as-glossy material as the Adventures one.


I think every inlay I've ever gotten in a Dominion box has been bent and damaged.  I don't care because I don't use them anyway, but man, I don't know why they don't just put that under the plastic insert when packaging.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 12, 2016, 02:12:19 pm
All the tokens in Empires are metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GumdkNpqkK0
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 13, 2016, 11:50:43 pm
My cards are in!

The quality is very good as others have reported, but unfortunately my set had a few minor issues.

Most of my copies of Forum have off center backs.  Not quite 1/3-2/3 edges like the worst cuts I had from Adventures, but definitely noticeable. These got a bit worse as from the first to the last.  The first one is not at all noticeable. the last 6-8 are. I assume this is pretty much a fluke as these are the only ones with a noticeable shift.

One of my Catapults has a damaged edge, but this is just because it is the last card in the pack and must have gotten dinged there.

The thing I found most odd (but don't care about) is that a very large percentage of the cards in the black and red band packs (Groundskeeper-Wild Hunt + start of split piles and end of split piles/castles/events/landmarks/randomizers) are quite noticeably shifted to the left on the front. They are not (or only barely) shifted on the back.  Just something I noticed when going through them.

The last thing I had was some small spots (tarnish or something?) on a 3 or 4 of my Debt tokens. I might try polishing it off at some point, but it isn't something I would consider getting replaced.

Played my first game tonight, but the Empires cards ended up being not heavily involved, so I'll have to bias more strongly next time, or just play an all Empires board. 
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 14, 2016, 01:09:39 am
Still waiting to get an update from Miniature Market. Don't know what takes them so long.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: tristan on June 14, 2016, 03:53:25 am
My cards are in!

The quality is very good as others have reported, but unfortunately my set had a few minor issues.

Most of my copies of Forum have off center backs.  Not quite 1/3-2/3 edges like the worst cuts I had from Adventures, but definitely noticeable. These got a bit worse as from the first to the last.  The first one is not at all noticeable. the last 6-8 are. I assume this is pretty much a fluke as these are the only ones with a noticeable shift.

One of my Catapults has a damaged edge, but this is just because it is the last card in the pack and must have gotten dinged there.

The thing I found most odd (but don't care about) is that a very large percentage of the cards in the black and red band packs (Groundskeeper-Wild Hunt + start of split piles and end of split piles/castles/events/landmarks/randomizers) are quite noticeably shifted to the left on the front. They are not (or only barely) shifted on the back.  Just something I noticed when going through them.

The last thing I had was some small spots (tarnish or something?) on a 3 or 4 of my Debt tokens. I might try polishing it off at some point, but it isn't something I would consider getting replaced.

Played my first game tonight, but the Empires cards ended up being not heavily involved, so I'll have to bias more strongly next time, or just play an all Empires board.
OK, like with the Adventures mess-up that's not a big thing but it is not trivial enough either to not make me not think twice about buying this set.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: DLloyd09 on June 14, 2016, 06:24:24 am
I got my card dividers from SpielGeek last night... now I just need the actual game to get there today!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 14, 2016, 10:05:14 am
My cards are in!

The quality is very good as others have reported, but unfortunately my set had a few minor issues.

Most of my copies of Forum have off center backs.  Not quite 1/3-2/3 edges like the worst cuts I had from Adventures, but definitely noticeable. These got a bit worse as from the first to the last.  The first one is not at all noticeable. the last 6-8 are. I assume this is pretty much a fluke as these are the only ones with a noticeable shift.

One of my Catapults has a damaged edge, but this is just because it is the last card in the pack and must have gotten dinged there.

The thing I found most odd (but don't care about) is that a very large percentage of the cards in the black and red band packs (Groundskeeper-Wild Hunt + start of split piles and end of split piles/castles/events/landmarks/randomizers) are quite noticeably shifted to the left on the front. They are not (or only barely) shifted on the back.  Just something I noticed when going through them.

The last thing I had was some small spots (tarnish or something?) on a 3 or 4 of my Debt tokens. I might try polishing it off at some point, but it isn't something I would consider getting replaced.

Played my first game tonight, but the Empires cards ended up being not heavily involved, so I'll have to bias more strongly next time, or just play an all Empires board.
OK, like with the Adventures mess-up that's not a big thing but it is not trivial enough either to not make me not think twice about buying this set.

RGG is really good about replacing damaged/messed up parts, so I wouldn't worry too much.  The process was frustrating with Adventures replacements because a good chunk of my replacements were still miscut the first time around.

Based on the other responses here, and the low quantity of errors I had, I wouldn't assume the amount of issues are beyond expectations of the average game. Cards have the unfortunate issue of effecting gameplay if they are marked on the back. I've gotten a number of deformed houses and other wooden pieces in other games, and I know publishers replace those too, but it does not effect the game, so those don't bother me.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: SuperHans on June 14, 2016, 10:54:43 am
I received my copy of Empires and dividers from Spielgeek yesterday. No quality issues with my copy.

I was able to get two games in last night. I'll post more in depth thoughts once I've had more time to play with the set, but initially I've got to say these cards are a lot of fun. I thought the debt mechanic might be cumbersome, but it works seamlessly. Fortune was great. When it starts hitting, man that card is a blast. Castles was also fun especially because we had no idea what strategy to use with those.

The landmark mechanic was also a big hit. These add so much variety to the game, not only conceptually but also physically with the placement of VP tokens on the cards. Player interaction with mountain pass was exactly what I hoped it would be. Defiled shrine was a hilarious game of chicken.

All around, this is the most fun I have had  with an expansion right out of the gate. Looking forward to playing with the rest of the cards.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 11:06:12 am
Still waiting to get an update from Miniature Market. Don't know what takes them so long.

I'm never preordering from them again. All of the other places have shipped Dominion: Empires by now. They don't even have it. In fact, I'm probably going to go cancel my order now.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 14, 2016, 11:21:07 am
Still waiting to get an update from Miniature Market. Don't know what takes them so long.

I'm never preordering from them again. All of the other places have shipped Dominion: Empires by now. They don't even have it. In fact, I'm probably going to go cancel my order now.

I had a similar experience when Adventures came out with them. Never again.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: J Reggie on June 14, 2016, 01:39:31 pm
My copy just got here (from Amazon)! Unfortunately most of my Dominion friends are away, so maybe we should try and get some Skype games going.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: flaquito on June 14, 2016, 01:42:12 pm
My copy from CSI got to the post office too late for them to deliver it. So I went and picked it up in person.  ;D Looking forward to playing tonight.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 01:43:20 pm
Just ordered from Amazon, it says it will arrive by June 20th. So we'll see. I'm waiting for Miniature Market to have the set before then, because that's how real life works.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 14, 2016, 01:52:33 pm
Still waiting to get an update from Miniature Market. Don't know what takes them so long.

I'm never preordering from them again. All of the other places have shipped Dominion: Empires by now. They don't even have it. In fact, I'm probably going to go cancel my order now.

With a friend ordering a game which helps me reach the free shipping threshold and some discount from rewards points, it's quite a saving for me. I will stick with them for a bit longer. But yeah other places have been selling the game since last Friday but they still don't have it, really?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: RevanFan on June 14, 2016, 02:25:20 pm
So my local game shop said they'd get it last Friday. They didn't. Then they said they'd get it yesterday or today. They didn't. Now they're saying this Friday. I don't know what the deal with all that is, but I've been getting a bit angry and twitchy.

Oh, and I called another game shop not too far from me in Connecticut and they don't have it either. All I want to do is play this freaking expansion. So, I guess, all you forum goes will just have to tell me how awesome it is while I wait a year for either of the two game shops near me to get it.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 02:28:23 pm
So my local game shop said they'd get it last Friday. They didn't. Then they said they'd get it yesterday or today. They didn't. Now they're saying this Friday. I don't know what the deal with all that is, but I've been getting a bit angry and twitchy.

Oh, and I called another game shop not too far from me in Connecticut and they don't have it either. All I want to do is play this freaking expansion. So, I guess, all you forum goes will just have to tell me how awesome it is while I wait a year for either of the two game shops near me to get it.

It took a year for Adventures?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: SuperHans on June 14, 2016, 02:32:14 pm
So my local game shop said they'd get it last Friday. They didn't. Then they said they'd get it yesterday or today. They didn't. Now they're saying this Friday. I don't know what the deal with all that is, but I've been getting a bit angry and twitchy.

Oh, and I called another game shop not too far from me in Connecticut and they don't have it either. All I want to do is play this freaking expansion. So, I guess, all you forum goes will just have to tell me how awesome it is while I wait a year for either of the two game shops near me to get it.
I fully support buying from your FLGS, but Amazon and Cool stuff Inc both have it in stock last I checked and can likely ship it to you before the end of the week.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 02:32:50 pm
Does FLGS stand for Fucking Local Game Store?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: flaquito on June 14, 2016, 02:37:42 pm
Does FLGS stand for Fucking Local Game Store?

When talking about CSI, it stands for Florida-Local Game Store.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Hockey Mask on June 14, 2016, 06:22:43 pm
I gave up on my FLGS and ordered from Amazon. It'll be here tomorrow. Too bad cause I would rather support my game store but I need to Dominion while the Dominioning is good.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 14, 2016, 06:25:08 pm
I gave up on my FLGS and ordered from Amazon. It'll be here tomorrow. Too bad cause I would rather support my game store but I need to Dominion while the Dominioning is good.

How? I ordered and I have to wait until the 20th.

edit: Never mind then. It is arriving Thursday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: RevanFan on June 14, 2016, 08:54:56 pm
I gave up on my FLGS and ordered from Amazon. It'll be here tomorrow. Too bad cause I would rather support my game store but I need to Dominion while the Dominioning is good.

How? I ordered and I have to wait until the 20th.

edit: Never mind then. It is arriving Thursday.
I actually had previously ordered from Amazon after my first LGS attempt failed. But, Amazon didn't even ship it after 3 days, so we cancelled because my game store said they'd have it again. And then they didn't.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Hockey Mask on June 14, 2016, 09:31:16 pm
Ordered from Amazon Sunday night and it's being delivered Wednesday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jamfamsam on June 15, 2016, 12:08:04 am
This won't make anyone feel better. I have Empires but haven't played yet because everyone I play Dominion with has moved away.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: RevanFan on June 15, 2016, 01:43:47 am
This won't make anyone feel better. I have Empires but haven't played yet because everyone I play Dominion with has moved away.
Almost everyone I play with is moving away by September. I'll be in your shoes soon. Just, with the way things are going, I won't have Empires. Yeah...
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Sparafucile on June 15, 2016, 03:22:08 am
Greenlake Games in Seattle, WA has copies today.   Got mine :)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Watno on June 15, 2016, 05:27:56 am
Greenlake Games in Seattle, WA has copies today.   Got mine :)

But Mine is in the base game?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: blaisepascal on June 15, 2016, 07:37:10 am
My FLGS send out an email yesterday saying that "The much anticipated Dominion Empires has finally arrived!". I got my copy less than 30 minutes later. I haven't had an opportunity to play it yet, though.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 15, 2016, 04:40:09 pm
I am getting it tomorrow. I canceled my Miniature Market order.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 15, 2016, 04:46:04 pm
I am getting it tomorrow. I canceled my Miniature Market order.

They finally got their copies! No shipping notice yet though. :(


Edited: Called them and was told it wouldn't be shipped till tomorrow.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 17, 2016, 03:39:05 pm
I got Empires yesterday! I got out the set, and I set up a new game. Imagine my surprise when I pulled out the Base Cards, that all of my Silver and Gold were missing! As it turned out, I had a friend over from another state who brought Dominion, and he somehow took both my Gold and Silver while keeping his when he went back to wherever he lived, so I cannot play Empires. Like, FML!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Beyond Awesome on June 17, 2016, 04:01:40 pm
I got Empires yesterday! I got out the set, and I set up a new game. Imagine my surprise when I pulled out the Base Cards, that all of my Silver and Gold were missing! As it turned out, I had a friend over from another state who brought Dominion, and he somehow took both my Gold and Silver while keeping his when he went back to wherever he lived, so I cannot play Empires. Like, FML!

Wow! That sucks
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Seprix on June 17, 2016, 04:05:13 pm
I just ordered a new pack of Base Cards, but I should be getting back my Silver and Gold via mail eventually. Either way, kind of pissed off about it.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 17, 2016, 04:30:04 pm
I got Empires yesterday! I got out the set, and I set up a new game. Imagine my surprise when I pulled out the Base Cards, that all of my Silver and Gold were missing! As it turned out, I had a friend over from another state who brought Dominion, and he somehow took both my Gold and Silver while keeping his when he went back to wherever he lived, so I cannot play Empires. Like, FML!

Ugh, that's terrible. Way more than my wait. Just curious, don't you have a backup from the base game or Intrigue?

My order from Miniature Market has been shipped finally. Should get it by next Friday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: ObtusePunubiris on June 17, 2016, 04:33:41 pm
I got Empires yesterday! I got out the set, and I set up a new game. Imagine my surprise when I pulled out the Base Cards, that all of my Silver and Gold were missing! As it turned out, I had a friend over from another state who brought Dominion, and he somehow took both my Gold and Silver while keeping his when he went back to wherever he lived, so I cannot play Empires. Like, FML!

Dude, that's just... I mean as far as first-world problems go, that's like level 10 awful.  I would be raging were I in your shoes.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: J Reggie on June 17, 2016, 05:26:50 pm
I got Empires yesterday! I got out the set, and I set up a new game. Imagine my surprise when I pulled out the Base Cards, that all of my Silver and Gold were missing! As it turned out, I had a friend over from another state who brought Dominion, and he somehow took both my Gold and Silver while keeping his when he went back to wherever he lived, so I cannot play Empires. Like, FML!

SCSN would be happy to have this problem.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 17, 2016, 06:00:05 pm
I got Empires yesterday! I got out the set, and I set up a new game. Imagine my surprise when I pulled out the Base Cards, that all of my Silver and Gold were missing! As it turned out, I had a friend over from another state who brought Dominion, and he somehow took both my Gold and Silver while keeping his when he went back to wherever he lived, so I cannot play Empires. Like, FML!

SCSN would be happy to have this problem.

Yeah, just set up boards where you need to build an engine that doesn't want any Silver. Problem Solved.

Or like, proxy Silver with Duchess, Gold with Mandarin, and improvise further if more people attempt to gain more than 10 of each because that isn't very common.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Aleimon Thimble on June 17, 2016, 06:10:18 pm
I got Empires yesterday! I got out the set, and I set up a new game. Imagine my surprise when I pulled out the Base Cards, that all of my Silver and Gold were missing! As it turned out, I had a friend over from another state who brought Dominion, and he somehow took both my Gold and Silver while keeping his when he went back to wherever he lived, so I cannot play Empires. Like, FML!

SCSN would be happy to have this problem.

Yeah, just set up boards where you need to build an engine that doesn't want any Silver. Problem Solved.

Or like, proxy Silver with Duchess, Gold with Mandarin, and improvise further if more people attempt to gain more than 10 of each because that isn't very common.

Proxying Treasure cards with Action cards doesn't seem convenient, I'd go for Royal Seal and Cache instead. It's also not like you were going to buy either if they appeared as Kingdom cards.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: RevanFan on June 17, 2016, 06:58:59 pm
My game shop finally got Empires today. Other than a slightly wrinkled insert, everything was great. The new tokens are particularly fantastic. I won't be using the insert for much longer anyway. I have all my cards in three boxes using Ultra Pro 9-card sleeves.

I won't be able to play with it until either Sunday, Tuesday, or Friday, but I greatly look forward to that time.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Willvon on June 17, 2016, 08:10:06 pm
I ordered my copy from Miniature Market. Since last weekend, my order had the status of "Pending Release".  Tuesday I called them to ask what that meant. They had not yet received their copies. So it meant they would release it for shipment after they got their copies some time this week. On Wednesday or Thursday, they finally received their copies.  The status has now been changed to shipped.  It's only a 5 hour drive between St. Louis and Lexington, but I didn't receive it today. Hopefully I will get it by Monday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 17, 2016, 09:19:54 pm
I ordered my copy from Miniature Market. Since last weekend, my order had the status of "Pending Release".  Tuesday I called them to ask what that meant. They had not yet received their copies. So it meant they would release it for shipment after they got their copies some time this week. On Wednesday or Thursday, they finally received their copies.  The status has now been changed to shipped.  It's only a 5 hour drive between St. Louis and Lexington, but I didn't receive it today. Hopefully I will get it by Monday.

Mine shipped out yesterday. I got a shipping notice and tracking number from FedEx in the evening.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: RevanFan on June 17, 2016, 10:04:26 pm
While I can't play the physical game yet, I did get in a game with my dad via Tabletop Simulator (forgive me, please.) I won 93-86. Those Landmarks are incredible. I gained 26 points from Museum, lost 12 from Wolf Den, and bought a Curse for 8 VP from Defiled Shrine. Never really got to explore the split piles, though. We only really went for Encampment/Plunder, and often drew Encampment without any Gold in hand. By the time we got down to Plunder, we either never had enough money, or had too much and had to go for Province or Colony. Gathering is also a fantastically fun mechanic.

I've only played one game, and it wasn't with the physical game, but I think this will be my favorite expansion yet. Thank goodness my FLGS finally got it.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 18, 2016, 12:42:36 am
Salt the Earth is AMAZING.

"Hmm, I have (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/47/Coin8.png/16px-Coin8.png) and 2 Buys...  I could buy a Province...  or, since I'm ahead in points, I'll just trash two of them from the Supply, leaving only 1 Province left, and making it basically impossible for anyone else to get enough points to win.  :D"
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: cactus on June 18, 2016, 08:17:14 am
Greenlake Games in Seattle, WA has copies today.   Got mine :)

But Mine is in the base game?
Never gets old.  :D
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: J Reggie on June 18, 2016, 09:04:32 am
Greenlake Games in Seattle, WA has copies today.   Got mine :)

But Mine is in the base game?

No, it's in Prosperity.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Beyond Awesome on June 18, 2016, 02:04:52 pm
Salt the Earth is AMAZING.

"Hmm, I have (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/47/Coin8.png/16px-Coin8.png) and 2 Buys...  I could buy a Province...  or, since I'm ahead in points, I'll just trash two of them from the Supply, leaving only 1 Province left, and making it basically impossible for anyone else to get enough points to win.  :D"

I have a feeling this might be the most powerful card in the set. Well that and Donate.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: jsh357 on June 20, 2016, 09:40:52 pm
Just spent the last several hours unsleeving my proxies, adding in Empires, and reorganizing my tokens. Good times. I wonder when I'll get to play with it! (If anyone wants to come to Columbia, I'm down for games LOL)
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: tufftaeh on June 21, 2016, 10:47:11 am
Just got my copy from a coworker from Portland, OR, who bought it at his FLGS before flying to Germany. Is this the first copy in Europe?  ;D
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Harley_Beckett on June 21, 2016, 05:33:02 pm
Just got my copy from a coworker from Portland, OR, who bought it at his FLGS before flying to Germany. Is this the first copy in Europe?  ;D

I can report no copies yet sighted in the UK, so probably. :(

Why can't I have a friend who regularly travels to the US on business?  Or, you know, any friend?

I will try very hard not to use this as an excuse to vote to leave the EU.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: tufftaeh on June 21, 2016, 05:51:47 pm
On the box, the EU distributors are listed (only with snail mail addresses): Bergsala Enigma Denmark A/S and Esdevium Games Ltd in the UK. Maybe you can get some info from Hampshire?
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 21, 2016, 06:32:03 pm
No sign of it yet on their website (http://www.esdeviumgames.com)...
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: dane-m on June 22, 2016, 12:29:49 pm
No sign of it yet on their website (http://www.esdeviumgames.com)...
They have a weekly newsletter (it appears on the website on Friday afternoon, I believe) that announces new releases.  Let's keep our fingers crossed for this Friday.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: werothegreat on June 24, 2016, 08:22:38 am
So last night, through the grace of Fortune, I managed to buy three Dominates in one turn.  That, combined with Castles, led me to get 127 (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/9/92/VP.png/16px-VP.png) that game, more than the other 3 players combined.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: crj on June 24, 2016, 01:17:31 pm
No sign of it yet on their website (http://www.esdeviumgames.com)...
They have a weekly newsletter (it appears on the website on Friday afternoon, I believe) that announces new releases.  Let's keep our fingers crossed for this Friday.
No sign of it this week, either...
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: buckyball on June 25, 2016, 03:38:45 am
Just got my copy from Miniature Market today. Looks like I got a bad print. Most of the first stack (Archive-Forum) are off-centered front and back. Some are quite noticeable e.g. Charm, Crown. Some are quite subtle e.g. Archive. Groundskeeper pack has some subtly off-centered cards too. The other pack seems fine.

Sorry about the poor lighting.
(http://i.imgur.com/fiNQYujm.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/j87jbwXm.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/x3FTp9Um.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/igMJqkbm.jpg)
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Post by: tristan on June 27, 2016, 03:24:19 am
Looks like they haven't fixed the issues with the manufacturer. And poor quality control on the side of the publisher.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Chris is me on June 27, 2016, 07:57:11 am
I think I might have a few cards as subtly off as Archive is in that picture, but I don't have anything nearly as bad as Crown. I'm sure if you talk to RGG you can get those cards replaced.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Deadlock39 on June 27, 2016, 09:34:36 am
Definitely contact RGG.

My Forums were off pretty badly, and they sent me replacements. I got them a few days ago, and the new ones are perfect.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: papadjango on June 28, 2016, 08:01:05 am
My copy of Empires just arrived here in Vienna/Europe!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: dane-m on July 01, 2016, 10:38:59 am
No sign of it yet on their website (http://www.esdeviumgames.com)...
They have a weekly newsletter (it appears on the website on Friday afternoon, I believe) that announces new releases.  Let's keep our fingers crossed for this Friday.
No sign of it this week, either...
Esdevium's latest newsletter isn't on their website yet, but this morning I received an email from Board Game Extras (which is where I always buy my Dominion expansions from) saying that Empires is being released next week.  That suggests to me that it's going to be announced in the neswletter.  Maybe our long wait on this side of the Pond is nearing its end.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Harley_Beckett on July 01, 2016, 12:42:38 pm
No sign of it yet on their website (http://www.esdeviumgames.com)...
They have a weekly newsletter (it appears on the website on Friday afternoon, I believe) that announces new releases.  Let's keep our fingers crossed for this Friday.
No sign of it this week, either...
Esdevium's latest newsletter isn't on their website yet, but this morning I received an email from Board Game Extras (which is where I always buy my Dominion expansions from) saying that Empires is being released next week.  That suggests to me that it's going to be announced in the neswletter.  Maybe our long wait on this side of the Pond is nearing its end.

Esdevium website is updated. It's there!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Harley_Beckett on July 05, 2016, 01:48:28 pm
Report from the UK; I just picked up Empires from my FLGS here in Reading, Berkshire!

So, British players, it's out there in the wild. Happy hunting!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: tufftaeh on July 08, 2016, 09:40:38 am
Darn, just before some forum regulars meet for the "European release party" in Karlsruhe.
Well, as too many have voted for the Brexit we can probably still consider next weekend the European release party...
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Harley_Beckett on July 08, 2016, 06:13:04 pm
Darn, just before some forum regulars meet for the "European release party" in Karlsruhe.
Well, as too many have voted for the Brexit we can probably still consider next weekend the European release party...

Well, I haven't played it yet, though I have sleeved the cards!  Your launch party sounds awesome and I definitely think it counts! 

(Of course, the UK remains in the EU... and even if it leaves it will still be in Europe because... well... geography...)

I'd come myself, except I think my wife might consider my travelling to Germany to play Dominion as grounds for divorce.

Vielen gluck!
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: dane-m on July 12, 2016, 02:57:04 am
I'd come myself, except I think my wife might consider my travelling to Germany to play Dominion as grounds for divorce.
Look on the bright side: that would give you more time free for playing Dominion.  :)

There was a somewhat unusual production error in my set of Empires: only 9 Archive cards but 11 Forum cards.  The fact that the shortage of Archive cards was balanced by an excess of Forum cards (Archive and Forum are the first and last cards in one of the packs) presumably reveals something about how the contents of the set are collated.

Until such time as I receive my tenth Archive card I have temporarily found a use for one of the several blank cards from previous sets.
Title: Re: Where did you buy / pre-order Empires? Has it shipped yet?
Post by: Harley_Beckett on July 12, 2016, 06:16:09 am
I'd come myself, except I think my wife might consider my travelling to Germany to play Dominion as grounds for divorce.
Look on the bright side: that would give you more time free for playing Dominion.  :)

...

Excuse me, I need to complete some paperwork.