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Dominion => Game Reports => Help! => Topic started by: drsteelhammer on May 24, 2016, 07:01:39 pm

Title: I really wanted to destroy Rebuild here....
Post by: drsteelhammer on May 24, 2016, 07:01:39 pm
...and I got close, but I think this could have been easily won if I played it decently.

http://gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160524/log.0.1464052021737.txt

The things that I think I did wrong:

-The plan opening. Maybe get it on T3/4? I like to put it on minion here though

-second shanty over hamlet was insanely dumb. Not quite sure about the first one.

-Maybe I should have stopped building and picked up one more duchy earlier? It would have probably meant quite a lot.

-Maybe skip the Saboteur pin entirely? I think it's the best payload against the rush here and it definitely felt satisfying even though I lost.

There is probably some more, I'd really like to hear your feedback :)
Title: Re: I really wanted to destroy Rebuild here....
Post by: JW on May 24, 2016, 07:09:32 pm
Oasis isn't nearly enough economy to hit $5 reliably on turns 3/4, and with Oasis/Plan (Minion) as an opening on turns 3/4 you can't possibly to hit $5 for Minion with a card in hand to trash because of Oasis's discard effect. I'd probably open Shanty Town/Oasis and look to pick up Plan after that.
Title: Re: I really wanted to destroy Rebuild here....
Post by: drsteelhammer on May 24, 2016, 07:21:51 pm
Oasis isn't nearly enough economy to hit $5 reliably on turns 3/4, and with Oasis/Plan (Minion) as an opening on turns 3/4 you can't possibly to hit $5 for Minion with a card in hand to trash because of Oasis's discard effect. I'd probably open Shanty Town/Oasis and look to pick up Plan after that.

Yup that was pretty bad. I clicked on plan before thinking through what I was going to do. Oasis/Shanty looks like the best to me aswell right now
Title: Re: I really wanted to destroy Rebuild here....
Post by: -Stef- on May 25, 2016, 05:54:37 am
I'm not against the plan opening, but putting it on Minion is really bad. I can't even think of the draws you're hoping to have on turns 3/4 where that works out.
You could luck into having 5 coppers, or maybe oasis into a $5 hand, but even then you don't get to trash.

Putting the plan token on Oasis and trashing an estate on turn 2 seems ok. You have a reasonable shot at buying a Minion from here on, and if you don't at least you'll swap an Estate with another Oasis. There is no need for plan on Minion. Your deck can handle 4-5 oasis easily, and that is plenty of trashing. The fact that you can get the trashing going right form the start makes up for putting it on the card you don't really want all 10 of.

After that, my plan would be to skip Saboteur and Duchy, buy all the Minions, and the endgame is just buy more points with Provinces.
The double Saboteur plan is something I would keep in mind, it just wouldn't be my initial plan and I'd hope to avoid it.

I agree with skipping Ironworks. One Shanty Town is certainly enough.