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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: werothegreat on April 09, 2016, 12:06:16 am
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Might as well make one of these. I stretched the definition of "Peddler variant" a little bit to get 2n entries to make it easier to bracket, but I'll stand by my choices. I think Conspirator, Venture and Ironmonger are thought of as Peddler variants more often than Tribute, City or Mining Village, at any rate.
1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
There's some fun stuff you can do with the topdecking (see Outpost) but ultimately I'm more often wishing I had +Buy than the topdeck effect.
3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
Not even close!
5) Mystic
6) Venture
Come on, we all know Venture doesn't count on this list. That's not a cantrip. It's not even an Action.
7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
I love love love Conspirator, so this one was a toughie, but ultimately I'm often at a loss to do when there is a good Conspirator engine but no +Buy...
9) Peddler
10) Highway
Another toughie! You like just pulling at my heartstrings and putting my favorites together. Peddler's TFB antics are hilarious, but Highway has so many great dumb combos that I can't not call it here.
11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
J-Dizzle has saved more decks than I can imagine with its clutch cantrip trashing! Oasis is cool but it's more of a sifter than a Peddler in practice.
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
Tournament is super swingy and often decides the game. Artificer is an edgy high-skill card that is very rewarding and fun to play with. Everyone should love Artificer.
15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
+Action? Snoooooze. Ironmonger is super cool cause it does a variety of shit. Bazaar just makes it tricky to calculate your payload.
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8 ) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
I've always undervalued Market, couldn't tell you why.
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8 ) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Moat4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer 12) Oasis13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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2, 3, 5, 7, 10, 11, 13, 16
I seem to like prime seeds, when they're available.
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8 Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8 ) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
I'm so tired of these brackets that I'm just quoting someone else's opinion that I agree with about 50-53% of the time.
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8 ) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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Voting for real.
1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8 ) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8 ) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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1) Market
2) Treasury
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3) Baker
4) Caravan Guard
5) Mystic
6) Venture
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7) Conspirator
8) Grand Market
9) Peddler
10) Highway
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11) Junk Dealer
12) Oasis
13) Tournament
14) Artificer
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15) Bazaar
16) Ironmonger
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It's been a couple days, so I'm going to tally now. Half of these were really close, and the other half were just no contest.
1) Market 9
2) Treasury 8 - Market wins! By 1 vote.
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3) Baker 16
4) Caravan Guard 1 - I guess you all just love Baker. This was the highest spread of them all.
5) Mystic 12
6) Venture 5 - Mystic wins!
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7) Conspirator 8
8) Grand Market 9 - Grand Market wins!
9) Peddler 6
10) Highway 11 - Highway wins!
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11) Junk Dealer 13
12) Oasis 4 - Junk Dealer wins by a landslide!
13) Tournament 8
14) Artificer 9 - Too bad, Tournament, Artificer is in the house!
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15) Bazaar 9
16) Ironmonger 8 - This makes me sad, but I guess you all just barely like Bazaar better. :(
New bracket:
1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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3 5 10 15
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3 5 11 14
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1) Market
Baker
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5) Mystic
Grand Market
10) Highway
Junk Dealer
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Artificer
15) Bazaar
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1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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3 8 11 15
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1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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3 8 10 14
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1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8 ) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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New bracket:
1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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1) Market
3) Baker
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5) Mystic
8 ) Grand Market
10) Highway
11) Junk Dealer
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14) Artificer
15) Bazaar
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1, 5, 11, 14
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1) Market
Baker
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5) Mystic
Grand Market
10) Highway
Junk Dealer
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Artificer
15) Bazaar
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3 5 10 14
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3 8 10 14
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3 5 11 14
3 5 10 14
Why are you voting twice? With different votes for the third contest? Which is the real vote??
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3 5 10 14
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1) Market
Baker
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5) Mystic
Grand Market
10) Highway
Junk Dealer
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Artificer
15) Bazaar
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It's been a few days, so time to count things up again!
1) Market 5
3) Baker 12 - Baker crushes Market like an infant's still-forming skull.
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5) Mystic 6
8) Grand Market 11 - The GRAND Market fares better, defeating the charlatan psychic with the power of CAPITALISM.
10) Highway 7
11) Junk Dealer 9 - You guys apparently like trash better than infrastructure.
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14) Artificer 11
15) Bazaar 6 - Artificer wins handily.
I didn't count Roadrunner's second vote. McGarnacle didn't vote for Highway/Junk Dealer, but it didn't end up mattering.
Our penultimate bracket:
3) Baker
8 ) Grand Market
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11) Junk Dealer
14) Artificer
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Baker.jpg) vs (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Grand_Market.jpg) - Save money, or big money?
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Junk_Dealer.jpg) vs (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Artificer.jpg) - Trash things, or gain things?
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Artificer/Baker
Both unique cards unlike the boredom of junk dealer and all grand market has for it is the copper clause which is just annoying to me.
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Baker and Artificer.
Incidentally, I love how their art is so similar.
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Baker, Junk dealer
Baker is by far the best peddler left. I preffered the other three options from the round of 8 to the other members of the final four.
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Baker, Artificer
If I had voted before last night, I would have voted JD. But I played 2 games with Artificer last night and it was absolutely insane in both. Turning on Menageries, midturn topdecking King's Court, even piling out itself and another pile to end the game. Artificer is nuts, rapidly moving up my favorite card list.
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Baker/Artificer
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Artificer/Grand Market
Coins + Cards + Actions = Awesome, plus the Baker looks weird and the Junk Dealer is a bit shady looking.
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Grand market, Junk Dealer
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Baker, Artificer
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Grand Market, Junk Dealer. I haven't played much with Artificer yet, otherwise I might like it more.
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GM
JD
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Grand Market
Artificer
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3) Baker
8 ) Grand Market
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11) Junk Dealer
14) Artificer
Sorry J-Dizzle, Artificer is an extremely powerful card. Artificer / Scrying Pool is perhaps my favorite combo in Dominion.
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3) Baker
8 ) Grand Market
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11) Junk Dealer
14) Artificer
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Grand Market
Junk Dealer
Going with the big guns.
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Baker, Artificer.
Highway deserved to get to the top.
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8 11
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3) Baker
8 ) Grand Market
11) Junk Dealer
14) Artificer
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It's been a few more days, and here are the results:
3) Baker 7
8 ) Grand Market 10 - Baker enjoyed an early lead, but Grand Market overtook it for the finish.
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11) Junk Dealer 7
14) Artificer 10 - Gaining has beaten trashing.
FINAL ROUND - SUDDEN DEATH
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Grand_Market.jpg) VS (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Artificer.jpg)
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Sudden death means first vote takes all, right?
ArTiFiCer
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Grand Market
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Gotta go for my personal favorite over the better card here - Artificer
Quite honestly though, I've been a "Grand Market Idiot" too many times now, but I don't think there is such thing as an Artificer Idiot.
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GM
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Artificer
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Artificer
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Artificer
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Artificer!
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Artificer (http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/Artificer)
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Artificer/Watchtower or Library is a neat combo. You don't even have to gain anything from Artificer discards (though you probably should), and you can draw right back up.
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Baker got robbed.
Artificer, I guess, but Baker will always be the best peddler.
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Artificer/Watchtower or Library is a neat combo. You don't even have to gain anything from Artificer discards (though you probably should), and you can draw right back up.
Are you changing your vote?
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GM
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Artificer/Watchtower or Library is a neat combo. You don't even have to gain anything from Artificer discards (though you probably should), and you can draw right back up.
Are you changing your vote?
No.
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Street Peddler
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Artificer is neat, but Grand Market is boss.
Grand Market
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Grand Market
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the 'ficer
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Grand Market
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Grand Market
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(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Grand_Market.jpg)
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(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Grand_Market.jpg)
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(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Grand_Market.jpg)
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Grand Market
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(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Grand_Market.jpg)
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Grand Market
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Welp, here we are folks: Artificer fought valiantly, but in the end, your favorite Peddler variant is...
GRAND MARKET
(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?title=Special%3AFilePath&file=Grand_Market.jpg)
By a resounding 13 votes to 9.
Thanks for playing!
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Yes! It's so heartwarming to see that good old fashioned power cards can beat shiny new expansion cards!