What really messes me up about the card is how when you play it, you have to use up all of your accumulated coin. You play your Peddlers and GMs, and then you have a hand with Storyteller and some stop cards - do you give up all of your accumulated money to keep going, or accept your semi-dud turn? These kind of dilemmas are probably not as big of a deal as I'm making it out to be but they dissuade me from wanting to use this card.
Using Copper with this isn't super good - it's a less flexible Cellar with +1 Card then. Using it with bigger money is nice, and it might give certain engines a reason to invest in Gold or even Silver gainers.
What really messes me up about the card is how when you play it, you have to use up all of your accumulated coin. You play your Peddlers and GMs, and then you have a hand with Storyteller and some stop cards - do you give up all of your accumulated money to keep going, or accept your semi-dud turn? These kind of dilemmas are probably not as big of a deal as I'm making it out to be but they dissuade me from wanting to use this card.
That's only a dilemma if you are buying all your cards. If you are primarily trashing and gaining cards, perhaps with the remodel family, then storyteller will cycle the deck.
QuoteUsing Copper with this isn't super good - it's a less flexible Cellar with +1 Card then. Using it with bigger money is nice, and it might give certain engines a reason to invest in Gold or even Silver gainers.
If the remaining cards in your deck are significantly better than copper, the storyteller is giving significant benefit.
Playing Storyteller on a Silver is kind of like having paid $8 for a card that reads "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +3 Cards" (you're not guaranteed to always draw the Silver with Storyteller, but lets assume so for the sake of argument). With Gold it's like an $11 "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +6 Cards". And so on for Bank/Platinum/whatever. These price points seem reasonable to me.
Playing Storyteller on a Silver is kind of like having paid $8 for a card that reads "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +3 Cards" (you're not guaranteed to always draw the Silver with Storyteller, but lets assume so for the sake of argument). With Gold it's like an $11 "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +6 Cards". And so on for Bank/Platinum/whatever. These price points seem reasonable to me.
Playing Storyteller on a Silver is kind of like having paid $8 for a card that reads "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +3 Cards" (you're not guaranteed to always draw the Silver with Storyteller, but lets assume so for the sake of argument). With Gold it's like an $11 "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +6 Cards". And so on for Bank/Platinum/whatever. These price points seem reasonable to me.
With a Silver it's [+3 Cards, +1 Action]. With a Gold it's [+4 Cards, +1 Action]. Of course, you're hopefully playing more than one Treasure with your Storyteller.
Playing Storyteller on a Silver is kind of like having paid $8 for a card that reads "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +3 Cards" (you're not guaranteed to always draw the Silver with Storyteller, but lets assume so for the sake of argument). With Gold it's like an $11 "+1 Action, +1 Coin, +6 Cards". And so on for Bank/Platinum/whatever. These price points seem reasonable to me.
With a Silver it's [+3 Cards, +1 Action]. With a Gold it's [+4 Cards, +1 Action]. Of course, you're hopefully playing more than one Treasure with your Storyteller.
Oh right, whoops. I was thinking of Apprentice, hence the +3 for Silver, +6 for Gold. But does the +1 Coin from Storyteller count towards the + cards? I didn't think it did, but seems like you do.
So now I actually feel Storyteller is pretty weak, unless you really wanted draw.
It definitely does use up the +$1 from Storyteller itself. It says "pay all of your $".
You always really want draw!
You always want coins too. What do you want more?
It definitely does use up the +$1 from Storyteller itself. It says "pay all of your $".
Oh cool. And so even coins from before you played Storyteller get counted? That seems crazy.
EDIT: Just realized, if it gives you +1 card per coin, why doesn't it just say +1 card instead???
EDIT: Just realized, if it gives you +1 card per coin, why doesn't it just say +1 card instead???
EDIT: Just realized, if it gives you +1 card per coin, why doesn't it just say +1 card instead???
It speeds the card play up a bit by consolidating the drawing into one effect. And it's a small nerf to not have +1 card come first. There's some discussion about this in the Adventures Previews thread for Storyteller (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12855.0). If I remember correctly, that part of the discussion even got heated, so that's something to look forward to if you read!
EDIT: Just realized, if it gives you +1 card per coin, why doesn't it just say +1 card instead???
It speeds the card play up a bit by consolidating the drawing into one effect. And it's a small nerf to not have +1 card come first. There's some discussion about this in the Adventures Previews thread for Storyteller (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=12855.0). If I remember correctly, that part of the discussion even got heated, so that's something to look forward to if you read!
Makes sense but seems like it could just be after the text part. But whatever.
this is the adventures card that's come the most naturally to me. pretty sure it's got my highest win% from the set right now!
that reflects on the fact that i'm still not entirely comfortable with engines based on trash-for-benefit or other such gaining, and prefer to go for the "draw a deck full of gold/platinum, buy 2-3 provinces or colonies per turn" variety. this is like the best freakin card for those decks man!!!!!!!!
Yeah, Storyteller is super great, and the correct way to play it is "just buy it you dumb idiot you'll figure it out as you go". In any game where you have a bunch of Treasure, Storyteller comes to the rescue. It's just fantastic.I love story teller with the page line. It turns all those silver into labs. One of these days I'm gonna open page/storyteller.
maybe this is part of why i do well, but i actually don't like buying it real early. if you can only tell stories about copper, it's a worse warehouse that costs $5. only worth it if you have travelers or goons or some other special thing you wanna play early & often.Unlike Warehouse, Storyteller doesn't reduce your hand size (Horn of Plenty, Crown shenanigans and a few other edge cases excepted).
like if stables & storyteller were on the same board, i'd get like 2 stables then go ham on the storytellers
I think we have to refresh this topic since its article is still conjecture based. My list of synergies and antisynergies:
Synergies:
- Scheme and Star Chart are very good.
- Cards that enable topdecking are good substitutes for above (and Royal Seal is definitely the superior one here).
- Fool's Gold, especially with +Buy
- Cards that benefit from shifting like Travellers or Highway
- Silver gainers, like Lucky Coin and Jack of Trades
- Gold Gainers, like Treasure Trove and
- Almost any Kingdom treasure, really.
Antisynergies
- Traditional engines.
- It's generally poor with virtual money.
- Cards that dislike treasures, like City Quarter and Poor House
- Slogs
Antisynergies
- Traditional engines.
- It's generally poor with virtual money.
- Cards that dislike treasures, like City Quarter and Poor House