Dominion Strategy Forum
Dominion => Tournaments and Events => Topic started by: Limetime on February 19, 2016, 08:02:10 am
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Update: This will probably last a bit longer than originally planned
Welcome to the scavenger tournament. THis tournament is a little bit different than my previous one so read through everything before signing up. To avoid confusion I will try to make complete rules before hand. I want to be as transparent with this tournament as possible to avoid drama. Tournament will start once we have 8 applicants.
Rules
1. The matches are first to 4 wins.
2. If needed Matches can be split over multiple periods of time
3. If the client gives out on you than that is counted as a loss unless if you're opponent is gracious enough to give you a tie.(Hint don't sign up if you're client is not working very well)
4. All results will be posted in this thread.
5. If you become inactive then your next opponent gets a automatic win.(If you have not played any matches you can have a sub with compatible Iso rating)
6. Matches will be scheduled here (I will try to accommodate various vacations)
7. Standard random unless both players decide differently.
8. point counter is by default on but if both players agree it can be turned off.
9. No more than 4 starts for a player otherwise whoever is losing the match gets starting player If the match is tied making fun decides starting player.
11. If you stream you cannot look at your streams chat while playing.
Recommendations
1. Stream if you can
2. Play your matches sooner rather than later.
Structure
Single elimination.
Seeded by iso rating
Sign ups are open one spot left
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I should play more Dominion. I'm /in.
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I like: "No player can have more than 4 starts"
Under the current wording, a player can start all 7 games
/in
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I will play.
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It seems like no one is signing up. Too speed things up a bit /in and there will olny be 8 spots.
4spots left.
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Scheduling could be interesting, but people seem to be fairly open on weekends, so /in (as seems to be the custom).
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Three spots left!
(Bump)
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Come on guys ;)
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Sorry I still have 2 league matches to play this season. Then I will sign up for this one
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Come on guys ;)
I´m in
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Anyone?
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/in
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Due to the current work schedule, I'm /out
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I'm in
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/in
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1 spot left bumpity bump bump
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I'm in!
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Apparently gkrieg can't play so 1 spot left
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I'm still up for this!
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I am still good for it as well - will wait on scheduling information until the last spot is filled.
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Still up, but will not be available (probaly) until next Wednesday
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As I will not be here for much of the summer I will either put it on hold or make the deadlines for matches significantly larger with do you prefer?
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I'll join if there is room.
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I'll join if there is room.
There is.
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Iso ratings
Limetime: 53
Seprix: 42
Lekkit: 26
Calamitas: 38
Traces around: 36
Micha1980: 40
John daker:35
Lalight: 33
Edit: fixed stuff edited by spell check
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Lets make a bracket
Limetime----- Seprix
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Lekkit--------- \. / Lalight
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Calamitas----- / . \ micha1980
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Traces around . john daker
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Most impressive. I want to take on "Godot" Lekkit, but Limetime would be fun too.
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Hmmm.... You guys can start playing your round 1 matches. Report your results here. No deadline yet.
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If i can read it right, my first game is with Seprix?
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If i can read it right, my first game is with Seprix?
Yep
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Lalight 4 - 2 Seprix.
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Not much I could do with the last two games, though my Market buy in the last game is questionable.
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I will not be able to play until MF makes an update that fixes my clients problems.
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Micha and I just finished! I baaaaaaarely won the last game putting it at 4 to 3 with a tie in the 5th round. Fun boards!
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Calamitas and I played some number of games 6 or above, and I won 4 or more of them. We think it was 4-2, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were actually 5-3.
High number of really interesting kingdoms including both a not stupid rebuild and an interesting cultist.
Good games.
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Lekkit wins 4-3
I guess that's what I get for playing 5:30 in the morning
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Playing in the morning sucks. Thanks for getting up to play with me. I had a blast playing! I play all too rarely nowdays.
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Updated braket
Lekkit--------- \ / Lalight
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Traces around john daker
It looks like the underdogs always win.
You can now play matches within a reasonable amount of time.
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I still want to take on Lekkit.
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That may be possible to arrange anway. ;)
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That may be possible to arrange anway. ;)
Then let's wreck it, Lekkit. :P
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I'm usually free during weekday evenings my time. Send me a message if you're free sometime.
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I wrote to John, waiting his answer
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Traces beat me 3-4. Good luck in the finals, guys!
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Yeah, Lekkit and I played. I won 4-3 (with one tie).
A money strategy won 4 of the games, so you know, engines suck.
I will post some logs with post-commentary tomorrow.
If we I schedule my location at the time of the final correctly I might be able to stream it.
Edited to not make Lekkit look like an incompetent scheduler.
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Implying that I'm scheduling incorrectly?
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Okay, logs as promised - and in a place where nobody will see them.
Game 1: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468349551364.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468349551364.txt)
I go for trashing first and heralds second while Lekkit goes for heralds first, but is able to get to trashing quickly enough. I decide at some point to buy Gold over a Conspirator, but it does not come back to haunt me as we each decide to take the sure tie rather than mess with our somewhat delicate decks.
Game 2: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468350032991.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468350032991.txt)
I open Jack because it is Jack and Lekkit opens Miser, at which point I see the half-engine and prepare to lose. Then I get this awesome draw the second shuffle and decide that Jack + HP should work as a money strategy (it does, but not very well). It ends up being quick enough that Lekkit decides they needs to start catching up in points, and miscounts their way to a one point loss, although it is questionable whether delaying a turn would have made a difference.
Game 3: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468350364514.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468350364514.txt)
With no draw, this is a money board all the way. Lekkit ends up with a 5/2, which is a bit unfortunate, but not not losing. We both go for approximately the same money strategy, and I win with a province after they bet against me being able to reach it.
Game 4: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468351117646.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468351117646.txt)
It was my turn to try an engine and come up short, although noticing that bank existed would have helped me both in not making that decision and may have helped me quite a bit even after making it. Lekkit goes Wharf/Bank and although I am able to keep pace with it for a little bit, my Apothecary engine, like most others, stalls hard on green and they run away with the victory.
Game 5: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468352160365.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468352160365.txt)
I had this dream of playing a bunch of Minions with Grand Markets followed by a bunch of Soldiers and going out in a blaze of green glory buying all the provinces in one turn. Losing the Minion split did not help at all with that plan, but I pulled it together just enough for two turns to obtain a lead that was fairly insurmountable without me hitting a few duds and Lekkit building up. A person looking at the log will not appreciate how I carefully played my copper even when I did not need to in order to put chains over the Grand Market pile and prevent Lekkit from seeing how low it was getting, a trick which allowed me to whimper the game to an end.
Game 6: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468352887540.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468352887540.txt)
A super ugly game with Haunted Woods as the only draw. We split the curses but Lekkit having more Haunted Woodses allowed them to line up provinces with tournament while I was unable to do so. Lekkit got to over 50% VP and with our decks as miserable as they were I resigned to save time.
Game 7: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468353651406.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468353651406.txt)
A Sea Hag war gave into building back up through trashing. I decided to go super-thin and try something elaborate but lost too much time doing so as Lekkit smartly began to buy provinces. I put a final nail in my coffin by playing a haggler instead of butchering it and the resulting junk prevented me from having any chance of taking advantage of two piles being empty.
Game 8: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468354130016.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160712/log.0.1468354130016.txt)
Hey, we ignored peasant! I was tempted to try to do a megaturn with Miser, but decided I would be better off keeping it simple. My version of money involved thinning a little and getting lots of Fool's Gold whereas Lekkit's was Bandit Camp with Baron. The game ended up loser than I thought it would, and the speed with which I was able to nearly single-handedly empty the Provinces killed any thought that there may have been a fancy strategy that actually worked well enough to pursue.
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Hey, we finally played our games! I won 4-3
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LaLight and I played the final. I win 4-1. Logs and commentary tomorrow once again.
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And here we have it, the games of the final, only 6 months after the first call for signups.
Game 1: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470853054727.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470853054727.txt)
Some Magpie with Ill-Gotten Gains with Masquerade thrown in for good measure. We were probably too hesitant with IGG, but the lack of a village made it relevant. I got a little too worried about Sir Michael (once again ignoring the lack of village) and so could not keep up with the curses. Two unfortunate masquerade hits put me too far behind to at least keep up greening, and LaLight bought out the IGGs for the victory.
Game 2: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470853445239.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470853445239.txt)
LaLight tried to build up into an engine, but I would have none of that with Sea Hag, Silk Road, and Alms on the same board and so went for a fairly standard slog. My 7 Silk Roads with some other green thrown in was too much to overcome with any sort of speed and I was able to get Estate and Curse empty before the otherwise powerful engine was able to get going.
Game 3: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470854001848.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470854001848.txt)
A Black Market game in which I pulled exactly one card out of it - a curser, early - and one could say that that was the game. On the other hand, not messing around too much there ended up being the correct move, as a strategy best described as Stables money with some goodies was able to outpace the deck which had to be pulled out of the unknown. Simply accepting that a Province each turn would have to be good enough and getting to it allowed me to take this game.
Game 4: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470854205277.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470854205277.txt)
I knew about Jack/Bonfire and LaLight didn't. An ugly first reshuffle put me a turn off normal pace, but even a turn late with that money strategy is still very fast, and I was able to hold on for the win.
Game 5: http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470855039621.txt (http://www.gokosalvager.com/static/logprettifier.html?http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20160810/log.0.1470855039621.txt)
Possibly the most interesting game if you like engines. LaLight went for an early Torturer and in this case my panic defense buy payed off, with me being protected by Lighthouse nearly the entire game. Losing the Magpie split 1-9 did not help, but I was able to make up for it by thinning down quickly with Doctor and with some fortunate Lighthouse draws. LaLight took a Swamp Hag and I managed not to have a Lighthouse in play on the correct turn and was able to pile out curses for the match and tournament.