Here is your T3 Estate game: http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20151017/log.0.1445113068412.txt
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* your loss can't be the result of a very dubious or outright wrong play on your own side.
Buying a turn 6 Duchy isn't considered dubious play, Stef? I usually think greening early is a way to lose a game against a weaker player, because of the increased risk of hitting lots of chokey 7$ hands and the chance your green card never misses the reshuffle. I usually will buy Gold over Province on an early spike against a player that is making weak moves because I perceive late greening as safer against weak players.
I definitely see the indications in the kingdom that make early Duchy more appealing there, and I know I'm not on your level, but man it seems a little dubious to me.
* your loss can't be the result of a very dubious or outright wrong play on your own side.This is basically impossible to achieve.
Familiar, Feodum, Pirate Ship, Spice Merchant, Talisman, Golem, Catacombs, Cultist, Haggler, Expand
But recently I played this, what would be your strategy?
But recently I played this, what would be your strategy?
Pretty much what you did, except I wouldn't have bothered with Spice Merchant. I would've just gone Cultist-BM.
I didn't realize it was a Duke board. I guess I have trouble using text logs instead of art.
I have lost a few games like stef mentions, however, I obliterated all those games from my memory due to embarrassment
I do recall a province game where my opponent bought p ships and won. I think a junker was on the board
---------- Dingan: turn 1 ----------
Dingan - plays 4 Copper
Dingan - buys Jack of All Trades
---------- bbbchampion: turn 2 ----------
bbbchampion - plays 4 Copper
bbbchampion - buys Pirate Ship
---------- bbbchampion: turn 4 ----------
bbbchampion - plays 4 Copper
bbbchampion - buys Pirate Ship
---------- bbbchampion: turn 10 ----------
bbbchampion - plays 2 Copper, 1 Silver
bbbchampion - buys Potion
---------- Dingan: turn 19 [possessed] ----------
Dingan - plays 4 Silver, 1 Gold
Dingan - buys Province
bbbchampion - gains Province
------------ Game Over ------------
1st place: bbbchampion
2nd place: Dingan
Well, you could have played this another way.
There is Black Market with a lot of interesting stuff...
And on t3 I would have discarded Copper (drawn Estate and trashed it) and bought Market.
Outpost/Contraband combo wins against Envoy BM:
http://dominion-game-logs.s3.amazonaws.com/game_logs/20151111/log.0.1447277178965.txt
Didnt you learn from our championship match? You gotta buy more noble brigands!These slackers can't even steal a Contraband! Why would I want them?
Second Envoy on turn 3 isn't the correct play for Envoy-BM, is it?Might be so. Never tried to simulate that. But I don't think it's a catastrophic misplay or anything :)
I don't know how I would play that kingdom. NV-Bridge is there, but then it's also alongside KC-Scheme. Armory and Workshop help too. Wow. I probably wouldn't go for JoaT though.
I don't know how I would play that kingdom. NV-Bridge is there, but then it's also alongside KC-Scheme. Armory and Workshop help too. Wow. I probably wouldn't go for JoaT though.
Yeah, the winning strategy is either NV-Bridge or KC-KC-Bridge-Bridge-Bridge (probably the latter b/c it can succeed with relatively fewer bridges).
In either event, Jack is not helping you == the trashing doesn't thin your deck. The NV deck practically doesn't care at all; the deck going for KC's would certainly rather have silver than estate but not at the expense of adding a net card (Jack) to the deck to get it, not to mention using some terminal space and an early buy on something other than bridges and villages and things that gain bridges and villages.
My opponent just bought Prince over Province in a money game where I've been junking him with Ambassador. I was very confused. On his very first hand in the following shuffle, he manages to collide Envoy and Prince. The rest of the game he started with 9 card hands. I lost, obviously.if he's way behind that might even be the correct thing to do, the only way he would really be able to win is a hail mary prince
I think I actually like Stables (or even Smithy) BM much more. I guess IGG is okay, but that's kind of slow. I mean, you can't ditch the Curses (unless you just love Rats), but you could be getting Golds and Stables instead. I think IGG is okay after you have like 3-4 Stables, but by then, you're trying to Province. Phil Stone just seems too out there and not worth it and even slower. There's no +buy.
Thief isn't terrible on this board, but I'd wait until later to pick it up, when you're more likely to hit his good treasures.
But Rats/Thief...?
I think I actually like Stables (or even Smithy) BM much more. I guess IGG is okay, but that's kind of slow. I mean, you can't ditch the Curses (unless you just love Rats), but you could be getting Golds and Stables instead. I think IGG is okay after you have like 3-4 Stables, but by then, you're trying to Province. Phil Stone just seems too out there and not worth it and even slower. There's no +buy.
Thief isn't terrible on this board, but I'd wait until later to pick it up, when you're more likely to hit his good treasures.
But Rats/Thief...?
Thats false, stables versus igg isnt very good, as you will draw curses and dont have much treasures to discard, if you wait with 3 stables then you will end with 7/3 curse split