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Title: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 18, 2014, 05:14:02 pm
Speaking of signatures, I think Andrew is slowly making his way into all of ours.

That's the plan! I think you should find a real quote of mine though.

KingZog3's quote seems legit to me

It's more of a paraphrase of something he said in a dominion game to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 18, 2014, 05:42:58 pm
#5000 Post!!

Haha, that was post #5001, now you lose all the internets.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Jimmmmm on August 18, 2014, 05:51:50 pm
#5000 Post!!

Haha, that was post #5001, now you lose all the internets.

Looks like #5000 to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 18, 2014, 05:59:36 pm
#5000 Post!!

Haha, that was post #5001, now you lose all the internets.

Looks like #5000 to me.

Now it's #4999.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on August 18, 2014, 06:10:39 pm
I'm equally confused by what's going on over there.  It seems to oscillate between 4999, 5000, and 5001.  To avoid further quantum effects I'm going to split this into a new topic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 18, 2014, 06:15:02 pm
I'm equally confused by what's going on over there.  It seems to oscillate between 4999, 5000, and 5001.  To avoid further quantum effects I'm going to split this into a new topic.

I know.... I presume Jimmmmm knows too...

Wait, it's back to 5000 in the original thread.  I will presume that theory knows. :P


For further confusion:

(https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cprpxk4e1qeo3wuo1_500.jpg)

I figured it out on a technical level in a way that a preschooler wouldn't be able to.  Had to look up a solution to realize what the intuitive answer is.  Still not sure a preschooler would get it, but it's more plausible now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 18, 2014, 06:17:49 pm
You post-deleting scum!

I'm equally confused by what's going on over there.  It seems to oscillate between 4999, 5000, and 5001.  To avoid further quantum effects I'm going to split this into a new topic.

I know.... I presume Jimmmmm knows too...

Wait, it's back to 5000 in the original thread.  I will presume that theory knows. :P


For further confusion:

(https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cprpxk4e1qeo3wuo1_500.jpg)

I figured it out on a technical level in a way that a preschooler wouldn't be able to.  Had to look up a solution to realize what the intuitive answer is.  Still not sure a preschooler would get it, but it's more plausible now.

The fact that pre-schoolers can do it in five to ten minutes gives it away instantly. The only thing they know is how to count.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 18, 2014, 06:38:05 pm
I'm equally confused by what's going on over there.  It seems to oscillate between 4999, 5000, and 5001.  To avoid further quantum effects I'm going to split this into a new topic.

I know.... I presume Jimmmmm knows too...

Wait, it's back to 5000 in the original thread.  I will presume that theory knows. :P


For further confusion:

(https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cprpxk4e1qeo3wuo1_500.jpg)

I figured it out on a technical level in a way that a preschooler wouldn't be able to.  Had to look up a solution to realize what the intuitive answer is.  Still not sure a preschooler would get it, but it's more plausible now.

I got it in about 15 seconds, using the hint that apparently pre-schoolers can solve it. The answer is 2 - you count how many areas inside numbers there are, basically. E.g. an 8 has two areas, while 7 has none
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on August 18, 2014, 06:49:00 pm
Why do we need a new thread?

Also, I don't see how you can need more than a couple of minutes to solve the above by regarding it as an equation system.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 18, 2014, 06:57:47 pm
Why do we need a new thread?

To avoid quantum effects, as theory said.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: mail-mi on August 18, 2014, 07:07:59 pm
i was scared there for a second...I thought random stuff had closed!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 18, 2014, 07:26:50 pm
Maybe those "quantum effects" were also related to the whole "have to scroll up a post to see new posts" thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: mail-mi on August 18, 2014, 07:31:16 pm
question: how does one find their most respected post?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 18, 2014, 07:33:43 pm
question: how does one find their most respected post?

You post something that gets upvoted dozens and dozens of times. It then becomes your most respected post. You could try a pic of a sad kitten losing to a KC-masquerade-goons pin.

...Otherwise you need to keep the tally yourself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 18, 2014, 07:40:41 pm
question: how does one find their most respected post?

It's been asked before.  I know mine (it's the most respected post on the forum), but I don't know about anybody else's.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 18, 2014, 07:53:17 pm
I know mine
Me too, it's the card from Base Dominion that expands Treasures.

EDIT: My most respected post is, as far as I know, this (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10127.msg400507#msg400507).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on August 18, 2014, 08:02:24 pm
You'd think there'd be an easy way for me to find it, but sadly no :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 18, 2014, 08:15:16 pm
question: how does one find their most respected post?

You post something that gets upvoted dozens and dozens of times. It then becomes your most respected post. You could try a pic of a sad kitten losing to a KC-masquerade-goons pin.

I did it by photoshopping glorious facial hair onto a board game designer's face.

At least I think I did.  I don't remember another post of mine being so well received.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: A Drowned Kernel on August 18, 2014, 08:52:52 pm
question: how does one find their most respected post?

You post something that gets upvoted dozens and dozens of times. It then becomes your most respected post. You could try a pic of a sad kitten losing to a KC-masquerade-goons pin.

...Otherwise you need to keep the tally yourself.

Write some fanfiction, that's my suggestion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 18, 2014, 08:55:06 pm
I think mine was when I stepped into a (serious) thread, didn't read it, made a completely serious reply (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9952.msg323424#msg323424), and managed to get message of the week from it.

Well, it's that or a post I made from an alt account (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9309.msg288743#msg288743). Probably the latter actually.

Edit: It's the latter. Sigh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 18, 2014, 09:15:59 pm
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cprpxk4e1qeo3wuo1_500.jpg)

If you assume each digits maps to a given number, there's enough information to solve it, but that overcomplicates things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Archetype on August 18, 2014, 09:19:00 pm
I think my most respected post is one in the Soviet Dominion thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10847.0.). I don't know how to link to a specific post, but if you scroll down about halfway you'll see it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 18, 2014, 09:44:50 pm
I think my most respected post is one in the Soviet Dominion thread (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10847.0.). I don't know how to link to a specific post, but if you scroll down about halfway you'll see it.

just click on the post itself.  So, in this case, you would click on the "Re: In Soviet Dominion... (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10847.msg365896#msg365896)" that is just above "Reply #12 on: April 09, 2014, 03:34:55 am" and it will give you a url for that specific post.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 18, 2014, 09:50:20 pm
The male:female ratio is down from 15.5:1 to 15.3:1 on the forum!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: SirPeebles on August 18, 2014, 09:52:27 pm
I think my most respected is my Escher meme (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1204.msg367645#msg367645).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 18, 2014, 10:39:17 pm
The male:female ratio is down from 15.5:1 to 15.3:1 on the forum!

*Dries sweat from hands on his jeans, clears throat, puts on best charming smile*
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on August 18, 2014, 10:48:05 pm
Man we already covered most respected posts just a few weeks ago guys.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 18, 2014, 10:49:24 pm
Man we already covered most respected posts just a few weeks ago guys.

question: how does one find their most respected post?

It's been asked before.  I know mine (it's the most respected post on the forum), but I don't know about anybody else's.

Man we already covered that response just a few hours ago guys.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 18, 2014, 10:59:02 pm
question: how does one find their most respected post?

It's been asked before.  I know mine (it's the most respected post on the forum), but I don't know about anybody else's.

What post is this?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 19, 2014, 12:07:43 am
I miss the old Random Stuff thread.  :-[
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Archetype on August 19, 2014, 12:47:02 am
I miss the old Random Stuff thread.  :-[
This one feels so...empty.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 19, 2014, 01:22:46 am
I miss the old Random Stuff thread.  :-[
This one feels so...empty.

Those were the days, brah.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 19, 2014, 01:29:22 am
I miss the old Random Stuff thread.  :-[
This one feels so...empty.

Those were the days, brah.

I'll go ahead and create the "Tribute To the Random Stuff Thread" thread. You're welcome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 19, 2014, 08:40:28 am
I miss the old Random Stuff thread.  :-[
This one feels so...empty.

Those were the days, brah.

I'll go ahead and create the "Tribute To the Random Stuff Thread" thread. You're welcome.

Homage to the best thread
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 19, 2014, 08:46:22 am
Man we already covered most respected posts just a few weeks ago guys.
My most respected post had changed since then, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 19, 2014, 09:50:22 am
So, got this email today from work about lost and found:

This month I have recovered the following lost items:

The accenting is from the email, not mine.  Phrasing is fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on August 19, 2014, 10:27:20 am
Is the woman black or are the sunglasses?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 19, 2014, 10:30:28 am
Is the woman black or are the sunglasses?

And, why is only "black" italicized and not other colors?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 19, 2014, 10:35:58 am
Apparently I overdrew my checking account. Thank god my bank decided to charge me a $10 overdraft fee. Thanks BOA for kicking me while I'm down.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on August 19, 2014, 10:47:23 am
Sucks to hear that.  Another casualty of debit cards?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on August 19, 2014, 10:48:25 am
Is the woman black or are the sunglasses?

And, why is only "black" italicized and not other colors?

I'm guessing it's to further set it apart from the surrounding text. The other colors are already eye-catching, but the rest of the text is already black. So they probably italicized it for good measure.

That being said, I don't know why they're coloring the words in the first place.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on August 19, 2014, 10:54:15 am
I would have announced that I have recovered the following lost items:
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 19, 2014, 10:57:59 am
I admit my immediate reaction the email was, "How does she know the glasses belong to a black woman?  Are they somehow different from other sunglas.... oh... I get it".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on August 19, 2014, 11:24:04 am
Brown is a terrible way to describe a wristwatch... Because I would hazard a guess at somewhere around 30% of watches have a brown strap.  However, a brown face is much less common.  Also, it's easy enough to find the brand of the watch, seeing as it's usually on the face...

Also, I need an excuse to post in this thread so I can be notified of the new random stuff going on
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on August 19, 2014, 11:37:49 am
Maybe I should start posting daily lost & found from work. It's amazing how many people lose things like wallets, keys, clothing...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: SirPeebles on August 19, 2014, 11:38:36 am
Brown is a terrible way to describe a wristwatch... Because I would hazard a guess at somewhere around 30% of watches have a brown strap.  However, a brown face is much less common.  Also, it's easy enough to find the brand of the watch, seeing as it's usually on the face...

Also, I need an excuse to post in this thread so I can be notified of the new random stuff going on

Generally with a "lost and found" email you don't describe all of the identifying properties.  You announce that you have found a brown wristwatch, and then when someone claims that the watch is theirs, you ask them for the brand name or other identifying information in order to confirm that it is really their watch and that someone isn't just claiming a free watch.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on August 19, 2014, 11:44:18 am
Brown is a terrible way to describe a wristwatch... Because I would hazard a guess at somewhere around 30% of watches have a brown strap.  However, a brown face is much less common.  Also, it's easy enough to find the brand of the watch, seeing as it's usually on the face...

Also, I need an excuse to post in this thread so I can be notified of the new random stuff going on

Generally with a "lost and found" email you don't describe all of the identifying properties.  You announce that you have found a brown wristwatch, and then when someone claims that the watch is theirs, you ask them for the brand name or other identifying information in order to confirm that it is really their watch and that someone isn't just claiming a free watch.
Yeah... but then it's basically wishing well :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 19, 2014, 11:46:28 am
Apparently I overdrew my checking account. Thank god my bank decided to charge me a $10 overdraft fee. Thanks BOA for kicking me while I'm down.

At least it doesn't sound like the spiral of overdraft fees that could easily be avoided by an ethical bank (ha!).

I had a scenario where I goofed on a money transfer. Then on the same day, the bank decided to clear my rent payment (the largest) and then my other bills. If it had just cleared the smaller amounts first, then I would have overdrafted only once when the rent bill cleared. But no, they cleared the rent first which triggered an overdraft and then cleared the others which each individually triggered overdraft fees. I was so livid.

And that's why I don't do business with Commerce bank anymore. Also, they charged me for account inactivity in my savings. Apparently they had to punish me for not causing more work on their end withdrawing money.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 19, 2014, 11:48:25 am
Apparently I overdrew my checking account. Thank god my bank decided to charge me a $10 overdraft fee. Thanks BOA for kicking me while I'm down.

At least it doesn't sound like the spiral of overdraft fees that could easily be avoided by an ethical bank (ha!).

I had a scenario where I goofed on a money transfer. Then on the same day, the bank decided to clear my rent payment (the largest) and then my other bills. If it had just cleared the smaller amounts first, then I would have overdrafted only once when the rent bill cleared. But no, they cleared the rent first which triggered an overdraft and then cleared the others which each individually triggered overdraft fees. I was so livid.

And that's why I don't do business with Commerce bank anymore. Also, they charged me for account inactivity in my savings. Apparently they had to punish me for not causing more work on their end withdrawing money.

Sorry sir, we need to charge you for giving us your money.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 19, 2014, 12:44:44 pm
Have you guys seen that Louis C.K. bit? Here I'll find it real quick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gE_oV80L1s
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 19, 2014, 01:43:42 pm
Brown is a terrible way to describe a wristwatch... Because I would hazard a guess at somewhere around 30% of watches have a brown strap.  However, a brown face is much less common.  Also, it's easy enough to find the brand of the watch, seeing as it's usually on the face...

Also, I need an excuse to post in this thread so I can be notified of the new random stuff going on

Generally with a "lost and found" email you don't describe all of the identifying properties.  You announce that you have found a brown wristwatch, and then when someone claims that the watch is theirs, you ask them for the brand name or other identifying information in order to confirm that it is really their watch and that someone isn't just claiming a free watch.

But not just anyone can claim the watch.  Only a brown man.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 19, 2014, 02:05:36 pm
Brown is a terrible way to describe a wristwatch... Because I would hazard a guess at somewhere around 30% of watches have a brown strap.  However, a brown face is much less common.  Also, it's easy enough to find the brand of the watch, seeing as it's usually on the face...

Also, I need an excuse to post in this thread so I can be notified of the new random stuff going on

Generally with a "lost and found" email you don't describe all of the identifying properties.  You announce that you have found a brown wristwatch, and then when someone claims that the watch is theirs, you ask them for the brand name or other identifying information in order to confirm that it is really their watch and that someone isn't just claiming a free watch.

But not just anyone can claim the watch.  Only a brown man.

Unless you have a blue dog with you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 19, 2014, 02:35:50 pm
question: how does one find their most respected post?

It's been asked before.  I know mine (it's the most respected post on the forum), but I don't know about anybody else's.

What post is this?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg285310#msg285310
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on August 19, 2014, 03:01:07 pm
Quote
Technically, you didn't specify positive or negative ...

did we use to have downvotes on posts?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 19, 2014, 03:07:35 pm
Quote
Technically, you didn't specify positive or negative ...

did we use to have downvotes on posts?

No, but he has the power.  He's done it before.

EDIT: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5644.msg143012#msg143012
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 19, 2014, 03:19:43 pm
I think, instead, Theory should remove all the upvotes from all your other posts and put them only on that one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on August 19, 2014, 03:25:19 pm
Wait, so you only *actually* have 500 respect or so?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 19, 2014, 04:11:02 pm
Wait, so you only *actually* have 500 respect or so?
No, that's only displayed on the post, and doesn't affect the actual respect count. Theory's post with negative respect was a clever plan to get people to upvote it in an attempt to bring it over 0.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 19, 2014, 04:27:01 pm
I think, instead, Theory should remove all the upvotes from all your other posts and put them only on that one.

But then it wouldn't be hundreds, it would be thousands.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 19, 2014, 04:31:20 pm
I think, instead, Theory should remove all the upvotes from all your other posts and put them only on that one.

But then it wouldn't be hundreds, it would be thousands.

It would be 14 hundreds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on August 19, 2014, 06:19:10 pm
Tens of thousands.

(http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/avl/pics/lotr/ttt/army.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 19, 2014, 06:31:39 pm
I remember that post by sudgy. I think I actually reported it and made the joke theory then made (but it was a long time ago, so I might be misremembering).

Oh well. It's not like I care about imaginary internet points. Now everyone give me the imaginary internet points I deserve for the jokes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 20, 2014, 10:53:35 am
The kid upstairs has been running laps for about an hour now. When is nap time?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 11:10:50 am

(https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cprpxk4e1qeo3wuo1_500.jpg)


No cheating I figured this out in 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 11:11:40 am
The answer is of course, 2. But you have to know why that is the answer so telling you the answer doesn't really answer why.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 20, 2014, 01:28:06 pm

Ridiculously simple puzzle.jpg


No cheating I figured this out in 5 minutes.

I'm shocked this took any normal adult more than about a minute.

That being said, I tried it on two pre-schoolers and all I got was whining about "I don't know how, I don't know what this means!" so take the first line of the puzzle with a grain of salt.  Apparently I need to give my daughters more puzzles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 01:48:12 pm
It doesn't seem obvious to me in the slightest.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 20, 2014, 02:05:55 pm
The preschool line is just the normal bullshit to challenge people's egos so that they will a) comment on it to look smart and give the post more visibility and b) share it to feel superior to their friends and give the post more visibility.

And I'm getting pretty sick of those "challenges" to people. This one is actually a legitimate puzzle; not a hard one, but it's a puzzle. It's tons better than "99% of Americans can't give a male name that begins with O within 2 minutes," or "Most people cannot find the 9 in this field of 8s within 15 seconds." They're both bullshit, but the average person (I really, really hope I am overexaggerating the term "average") feels like he just accomplished a task of smarts and then wants to show it off.

So while the puzzle is actually a good one, I doubt the preschool claim holds any water. It's just some group trying to get views.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 02:36:21 pm
The pre-school line is a hint, people. It's a hint, not a scientific fact. I believe the puzzle would be orders of magnitude harder without the hint. I don't think it has anything at all to do with egos.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 02:40:20 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 02:43:10 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 02:44:18 pm
Also, spare me the explanation that counting is addition by 1 recursive. By addition I mean the summing of whole numbers greater than 1.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 02:55:41 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 02:57:56 pm

There is a function:

g(0) = 1
g(1) = 0
g(2) = 0
g(3) = 0
g(4) = 1*
g(5) = 0
g(6) = 1
g(7) = 0
g(8 ) = 2
g(9) = 1

f(d_n 10^n) = g(d_0) + g(d_1) + ... + g(d_n).

*or 0

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 02:59:21 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?

Kids call them circles
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 03:00:20 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?

Kids call them circles

Then the puzzle would depend on the font!  And be impossible to practically answer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 20, 2014, 03:02:17 pm
I thought I could escape the ice bucket challenge by going outside and playing basketball. I was wrong. Soon after I got there some dudes came and poured ice water on themselves. God make it stop.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 20, 2014, 03:03:19 pm
I thought I could escape the ice bucket challenge by going outside and playing basketball. I was wrong. Soon after I got there some dudes came and poured ice water on themselves. God make it stop.

I have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds like these "dudes" are into some really strange things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 03:03:42 pm
I thought I could escape the ice bucket challenge by going outside and playing basketball. I was wrong. Soon after I got there some dudes came and poured ice water on themselves. God make it stop.

Man, they all just coached the team to the championships.  That's how it's done.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 03:05:03 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?

Kids call them circles

Then the puzzle would depend on the font!  And be impossible to practically answer.

Which, ostensibly, is why the puzzle comes in the form of a static image.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 03:06:46 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?

Kids call them circles

Then the puzzle would depend on the font!  And be impossible to practically answer.

Which, ostensibly, is why the puzzle comes in the form of a static image.

Prove that they're circles.

(Edit: I mean, clearly they aren't.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 20, 2014, 03:07:51 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?

Kids call them circles

Then the puzzle would depend on the font!  And be impossible to practically answer.

Which, ostensibly, is why the puzzle comes in the form of a static image.

Prove that they're circles.

(Edit: I mean, clearly they aren't.)


Hey this is fun!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 03:11:02 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?

Kids call them circles

Then the puzzle would depend on the font!  And be impossible to practically answer.

Which, ostensibly, is why the puzzle comes in the form of a static image.

Prove that they're circles.

(Edit: I mean, clearly they aren't.)


Like I said, Kids call them circles
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 20, 2014, 03:14:47 pm
Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions.
Depends on the preschooler. I remember adding and subtracting fractions at the age of four.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on August 20, 2014, 03:16:34 pm
Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions.
Depends on the preschooler. I remember adding and subtracting fractions at the age of four.

Well, sure, but by that standard you can never make any generalized statement on anything. A preschooler is not expected to be able to add and substract.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 03:18:34 pm
Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions.
Depends on the preschooler. I remember adding and subtracting fractions at the age of four.

Early fraction arithmetic leads to anarchy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 20, 2014, 03:39:26 pm
Parsing the hint is half the work and the point is made if you struggle to simplify the problem sufficiently by interpolating your personal experiences as a pre-schooler. The problem is primarily one of inference as to the nature of the solution. The explicit obstacle lies in being overly literal. Thus, it is intended to be exceptionally hard for the mathematically minded. this is proven by the fact that once the solution is aired there remains debate as to whether the problem was correctly framed or not. In short, you still haven't solved the puzzle even though you have the answer and the function of solution.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 03:43:21 pm
Actually g(4) is ambiguous.  Maybe it should be 1 instead of 0.  Though in my handwriting it would be 0.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on August 20, 2014, 03:45:55 pm
Actually g(4) is ambiguous.  Maybe it should be 1 instead of 0.  Though in my handwriting it would be 0.
conveniently, the puzzle has no 4s in it. Except for in the answers...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 20, 2014, 03:48:05 pm
Actually g(4) is ambiguous.  Maybe it should be 1 instead of 0.  Though in my handwriting it would be 0.
conveniently, the puzzle has no 4s in it. Except for in the answers...

Yeah, I went back and checked.  Plus, it causes problems with the loop/circle thing. 

But I mean, it would be weird if you couldn't plug any number into the question slot.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 20, 2014, 04:05:07 pm
Today, my 2-year-old nephew learned what purpose does a flyswatter have and it made him cry. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 20, 2014, 04:06:29 pm
I thought I could escape the ice bucket challenge by going outside and playing basketball. I was wrong. Soon after I got there some dudes came and poured ice water on themselves. God make it stop.

Oh wow do not get me started.  I could rant so much about that from so many different directions...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on August 20, 2014, 04:11:05 pm
I thought I could escape the ice bucket challenge by going outside and playing basketball. I was wrong. Soon after I got there some dudes came and poured ice water on themselves. God make it stop.

Oh wow do not get me started.  I could rant so much about that from so many different directions...

I've tangentially heard about this... celebrities are pouring ice water on themselves for some reason ? What ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 20, 2014, 04:14:16 pm
I thought I could escape the ice bucket challenge by going outside and playing basketball. I was wrong. Soon after I got there some dudes came and poured ice water on themselves. God make it stop.

Oh wow do not get me started.  I could rant so much about that from so many different directions...

I've tangentially heard about this... celebrities are pouring ice water on themselves for some reason ? What ?

I don't know how it started exactly, but the cause is awareness and donations to research for ALS (aka amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, aka Lou Gehrig's disease, and what Stephen Hawking suffers from).  The idea is, you donate less if you dump the ice on yourself, then you challenge other people to dump ice or have to donate more.

It's moronic... and yet it has indeed raised millions for ALS research.  Which is great news for ALS sufferers (if they live long enough to see treatment, which they likely won't), but not so great news for... other charities.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 20, 2014, 04:19:36 pm
I really don't understand that "hint".  What are preschooler's not able to do that nonpreschooler's can?  Lots of stuff, I guess.  That doesn't really tell me much.

It means the problem is not of a mathematical nature, that is, there is no function to be discovered. Pre-schoolers can count, they cannot add, subtract or any other higher mathematical functions. Thus the implication is that you are counting something. Half of the puzzle is parsing the hint.

Count the number of loops?

Kids call them circles

Then the puzzle would depend on the font!  And be impossible to practically answer.

Which, ostensibly, is why the puzzle comes in the form of a static image.

Prove that they're circles.

(Edit: I mean, clearly they aren't.)


Like I said, Kids call them circles

And this is why I never let kids perform open-heart surgery on me. They're too dumb for this puzzle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on August 20, 2014, 04:23:21 pm
By the way : isn't the answer to the whole circle/loop conundrum to call them holes ? That's how I'd say it anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 20, 2014, 04:23:36 pm
It's moronic... and yet it has indeed raised millions for ALS research.  Which is great news for ALS sufferers (if they live long enough to see treatment, which they likely won't), but not so great news for... other charities.

I view the ice-water gimmick as a good thing because it raises awareness. Well, really, it reminds people, because I think everyone knows of ALS, but sometimes it helps to remind people that it's still out there and could use more research. So these stupid stunts bring the disease to the foreground and raise money. Good on that!

Having said that, the stunt is really dumb because you're challenging someone to donate $100 (or whatever) or else pour ice water over your head. So when someone videos himself pouring water over his head, he is making a tacit admission that he would rather dump water on himself than donate $100 to ALS research. This is probably not true. I bet most of the people in the videos did donate something, though maybe not $100. But the statement is still there, so it's pretty dumb. The challenge really should be something like donating $100 and then proving it by videoing yourself with ice water on your head. Not that it proves much but again, awareness.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 20, 2014, 04:38:33 pm
It's moronic... and yet it has indeed raised millions for ALS research.  Which is great news for ALS sufferers (if they live long enough to see treatment, which they likely won't), but not so great news for... other charities.

I view the ice-water gimmick as a good thing because it raises awareness. Well, really, it reminds people, because I think everyone knows of ALS, but sometimes it helps to remind people that it's still out there and could use more research. So these stupid stunts bring the disease to the foreground and raise money. Good on that!

Having said that, the stunt is really dumb because you're challenging someone to donate $100 (or whatever) or else pour ice water over your head. So when someone videos himself pouring water over his head, he is making a tacit admission that he would rather dump water on himself than donate $100 to ALS research. This is probably not true. I bet most of the people in the videos did donate something, though maybe not $100. But the statement is still there, so it's pretty dumb. The challenge really should be something like donating $100 and then proving it by videoing yourself with ice water on your head. Not that it proves much but again, awareness.

A friend whose research is in water treatment and desalinization posted something to FB earlier today, pointing out that one of the major causes of death in the world is lack of access to fresh water.  And here we are dumping someone's daily supply of water over our heads as part of a bet to escape giving as much to charity.

As someone with little to donate to charity in any given year, I can think of a lot better causes than ALS research.  Consider that about 30000 people in the US suffer from ALS.  That's about the same as the number of people just in my home city (about 10% of the population) who rely on food banks for part of their sustenance.  A $10 donation to my local food bank is going to impact more lives today than a $100 donation to ALS research... for which a useful treatment is years or decades away.

I don't know, maybe I'm more "aware" than other people, but I wasn't ignorant of ALS prior to this.  I don't see awareness of a specific disease as a great goal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 20, 2014, 04:40:19 pm
From the Canadian Press:

Quote
British Columbia's highest court is green-lighting medical marijuana in everything from oils and cookies to teas...

I have no idea whether the puns were intentional or not, but I find them hilarious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 20, 2014, 05:04:24 pm
I never even knew what the whole ice-water thing was, it was just one of those chain things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on August 20, 2014, 05:36:34 pm
From the Canadian Press:

Quote
British Columbia's highest court is green-lighting medical marijuana in everything from oils and cookies to teas...

I have no idea whether the puns were intentional or not, but I find them hilarious.

Puns ? Plural ? I get "green-lighting" but that's the only one I see.

Oh, "highest" I guess. That's a stretch, but ok.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on August 20, 2014, 07:15:49 pm
As someone with little to donate to charity in any given year, I can think of a lot better causes than ALS research.  Consider that about 30000 people in the US suffer from ALS.  That's about the same as the number of people just in my home city (about 10% of the population) who rely on food banks for part of their sustenance.  A $10 donation to my local food bank is going to impact more lives today than a $100 donation to ALS research... for which a useful treatment is years or decades away.

The problem with this line of thinking (and this is something I've struggled with before myself and I'm just sharing my current, malleable conclusion) is that for any donation $A to charity B, you can argue that a donation of $A to C would have done more good. What I'm saying is, at some point, you have to just go "Hey, $A was given to charity! That's great!" as long as the charity isn't obviously fraudulent or something.

I'm assuming, from the viral nature of the challenge at this point, that it's likely creating new charity dollars, not re-directing existing ones. Maybe it is, I don't know! That would be the interesting thing to me to know.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 20, 2014, 07:31:45 pm
I'm assuming, from the viral nature of the challenge at this point, that it's likely creating new charity dollars, not re-directing existing ones.
It's probably both.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 20, 2014, 08:18:26 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/e8a4337d1f8f8a052a7a35f3f8ec4bdc/tumblr_nalwrwtmL01sszxiso1_500.jpg)

We haven't talked about metric vs. imperial enough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 20, 2014, 08:20:27 pm
I tend to cater to my audience.  Although metric is so much cleaner
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 20, 2014, 08:24:27 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/e8a4337d1f8f8a052a7a35f3f8ec4bdc/tumblr_nalwrwtmL01sszxiso1_500.jpg)

We haven't talked about metric vs. imperial enough.

What's this from?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ConMan on August 20, 2014, 08:26:20 pm
A lot of the celebrities probably already have their own personal causes, so they may not want to get involved in donating to a new one, but the challenge does raise awareness. Of course you also have a few people like Charlie Sheen who decide to go for the more direct option.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 20, 2014, 08:34:13 pm

What's this from?

I actually don't know.  I saw it on tumblr...

Hmm, looks like it may have originated from reddit.  Says the OP (http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2e2do9/the_metric_system_vs_imperial/cjveisn):

Quote
"Wild Thing" by Josh Bazell. Sequel to "Beat the Reaper," not that there's any overlap plot-wise, just the same main character and occasional reference.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: SirPeebles on August 20, 2014, 09:38:44 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/e8a4337d1f8f8a052a7a35f3f8ec4bdc/tumblr_nalwrwtmL01sszxiso1_500.jpg)

We haven't talked about metric vs. imperial enough.

This is silly.  Those are just the definitions (at least historically) of those SI units.  Obviously the units will look easy to use when applied to their own definition.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 20, 2014, 10:13:40 pm
So there's been an apparent leak on the character roster and stages in the new Super Smash Bros. game(s). What makes it fun though is that the leak seems to be either legit or very well crafted - and that's led to a huge amount of argument and general flame wars. GameFAQs SSBU board is absolutely hilarious right about now, with rage flying all over the place. It's fun just to go over and read all the threads proving the leak is legit, and proving the leak is a fake, and watching the mix of passive aggressive comments people are throwing around about people who feel differently to themselves about it.

(I personally am still unconvinced by the leak either way, and will probably remain that way until there is definitive evidence, since that's reasonably likely to occur within the next week or so anyway).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on August 20, 2014, 10:29:25 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/e8a4337d1f8f8a052a7a35f3f8ec4bdc/tumblr_nalwrwtmL01sszxiso1_500.jpg)

We haven't talked about metric vs. imperial enough.

This is silly.  Those are just the definitions (at least historically) of those SI units.  Obviously the units will look easy to use when applied to their own definition.

Also not accurate (at least the hydrogen part). If we say the hydrogen is a representative distribution of naturally occurring isotopes it's 1.00794 g/mol and if we're just talking about 1H then it's 1.00783 g/mol. So it's close, but definitely not exact; we're off by about 5*1021 atoms. The standard definition of the mole is based on the mass of 12C.

I do agree that SI and metric are mostly way better than the imperial system.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 20, 2014, 10:30:03 pm
So there's been an apparent leak on the character roster and stages in the new Super Smash Bros. game(s). What makes it fun though is that the leak seems to be either legit or very well crafted - and that's led to a huge amount of argument and general flame wars. GameFAQs SSBU board is absolutely hilarious right about now, with rage flying all over the place. It's fun just to go over and read all the threads proving the leak is legit, and proving the leak is a fake, and watching the mix of passive aggressive comments people are throwing around about people who feel differently to themselves about it.

(I personally am still unconvinced by the leak either way, and will probably remain that way until there is definitive evidence, since that's reasonably likely to occur within the next week or so anyway).

Care to summarize the arguments either way?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: mail-mi on August 20, 2014, 10:53:02 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/e8a4337d1f8f8a052a7a35f3f8ec4bdc/tumblr_nalwrwtmL01sszxiso1_500.jpg)

We haven't talked about metric vs. imperial enough.

This is silly.  Those are just the definitions (at least historically) of those SI units.  Obviously the units will look easy to use when applied to their own definition.

Also not accurate (at least the hydrogen part). If we say the hydrogen is a representative distribution of naturally occurring isotopes it's 1.00794 g/mol and if we're just talking about 1H then it's 1.00783 g/mol. So it's close, but definitely not exact; we're off by about 5*1021 atoms. The standard definition of the mole is based on the mass of 12C.

I do agree that SI and metric are mostly way better than the imperial system.
I like pounds, but metric is better in every other way.

though it's way better to go 65 mph than 65 kmph
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 20, 2014, 10:53:31 pm
So there's been an apparent leak on the character roster and stages in the new Super Smash Bros. game(s). What makes it fun though is that the leak seems to be either legit or very well crafted - and that's led to a huge amount of argument and general flame wars. GameFAQs SSBU board is absolutely hilarious right about now, with rage flying all over the place. It's fun just to go over and read all the threads proving the leak is legit, and proving the leak is a fake, and watching the mix of passive aggressive comments people are throwing around about people who feel differently to themselves about it.

(I personally am still unconvinced by the leak either way, and will probably remain that way until there is definitive evidence, since that's reasonably likely to occur within the next week or so anyway).

Care to summarize the arguments either way?

I've seen most discussion from the SmashBros subreddit, but didn't bother looking for too many details. So, I'm for sure missing some arguments.

+ The lines on the character select screen don't line up perfectly
- The image is tilted and slightly blurry, this doesn't matter, plus they don't line up perfectly in previous games either.
+ The background for Fox on character select is blue, but in the E3 build it was green.
- His background was changed to the same shade of blue in the 3DS box art, which is official
+ Characters from the same franchise aren't next to each other.
- They weren't necessarily next to each other in previous games either.
- Error level analysis doesn't detect anything (a decent test of whether an image is Photoshopped.)
+ If they faked it, then took a picture of the screen it was displayed on, it wouldn't detect anything either.
+ What the hell, the Duck Hunt Dog is a playable character? That's so ridiculous!
- It's too crazy to be a fake!

and then lots of insanely specific details that I stopped reading before I went insane.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 21, 2014, 08:02:09 am
though it's way better to go 65 mph than 65 kmph

But you must paint flames on your car. And not metric flames either.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 21, 2014, 08:23:26 am
though it's way better to go 65 mph than 65 kmph

But you must paint flames on your car. And not metric flames either.

I just have angry birds on my dash.  I hope that is all right.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 21, 2014, 10:33:11 am
So there's been an apparent leak on the character roster and stages in the new Super Smash Bros. game(s). What makes it fun though is that the leak seems to be either legit or very well crafted - and that's led to a huge amount of argument and general flame wars. GameFAQs SSBU board is absolutely hilarious right about now, with rage flying all over the place. It's fun just to go over and read all the threads proving the leak is legit, and proving the leak is a fake, and watching the mix of passive aggressive comments people are throwing around about people who feel differently to themselves about it.

(I personally am still unconvinced by the leak either way, and will probably remain that way until there is definitive evidence, since that's reasonably likely to occur within the next week or so anyway).

Care to summarize the arguments either way?

I've seen most discussion from the SmashBros subreddit, but didn't bother looking for too many details. So, I'm for sure missing some arguments.

+ The lines on the character select screen don't line up perfectly
- The image is tilted and slightly blurry, this doesn't matter, plus they don't line up perfectly in previous games either.
+ The background for Fox on character select is blue, but in the E3 build it was green.
- His background was changed to the same shade of blue in the 3DS box art, which is official
+ Characters from the same franchise aren't next to each other.
- They weren't necessarily next to each other in previous games either.
- Error level analysis doesn't detect anything (a decent test of whether an image is Photoshopped.)
+ If they faked it, then took a picture of the screen it was displayed on, it wouldn't detect anything either.
+ What the hell, the Duck Hunt Dog is a playable character? That's so ridiculous!
- It's too crazy to be a fake!

and then lots of insanely specific details that I stopped reading before I went insane.

Yeah, that sounds like a good summary of the main things. Probably the biggest point against you're missing is that one of the images against shows the top and bottom screen of the 3DS version - but part of an image in the top screen seems to slightly overlap one on the bottom screen. There are however explanations for why this might appear to have happened, but it is a bit weird.

For your viewing pleasure:

http://i.imgur.com/9jIpHvK.jpg (note: some vulgar language)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 21, 2014, 10:35:35 am
though it's way better to go 65 mph than 65 kmph

But you must paint flames on your car. And not metric flames either.

I just have angry birds on my dash.  I hope that is all right.

Stop hitting birds with your car :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 21, 2014, 11:19:49 am
though it's way better to go 65 mph than 65 kmph

But you must paint flames on your car. And not metric flames either.

I just have angry birds on my dash.  I hope that is all right.

Stop hitting birds with your car :(

I've only hit 2 birds in my car during my 26 years of driving. It's not that I try to hit them. It's just that they are so adept at getting out of the way that I don't bother slowing down for birds anymore. Well, they're mostly adept. Two of them got Darwinned on my car apparently.

One night I was driving in the boonies and kept hitting rabbits. Not only was I not trying to hit bunnies, but I would swerve and still hit them somehow. I resigned myself to suicidal lepus.

Only hit one deer, and I was fortunate enough to slam on my brakes. I probably only hit him at a final speed of 10 MPH. He got up and tried to get traction on the road, so it looked kind of like a cartoon character trying to run away. He sped off, and I verified no significant damage to my car.

Oh, and I hit a kid on a bike. Actually, he hit me. He came barreling through a stop sign, and I veered enough that he only slammed into the side of my car. Fortunately, there was nothing on the sidewalk for me to hit when I swerved. I jumped out of my car, and he stood up in the middle of the intersection and proclaimed, "I'm all right!" I was muttering that the little shit better be. Free life's lesson for him.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 21, 2014, 11:35:16 am
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 21, 2014, 11:39:10 am
one human, and almost a cyclist
For me, it's the reverse. I've hit a cyclist, and almost one human, too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on August 21, 2014, 11:40:23 am
Wait are cyclists not humans?!?!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 21, 2014, 11:45:15 am
In 20 years of driving, I can safely say I've yet to hit a living thing larger than an insect.  I have technically hit the rear of two cars, but in both cases I was rear-ended first.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 21, 2014, 11:47:52 am
Wait are cyclists not humans?!?!
That's the joke

I haven't actually hit anyone
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 21, 2014, 11:48:20 am
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.

You've killed someone while driving? Gangster! Murderer! And it's ok to hit cyclists, they piss off everyone with their attitude.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 21, 2014, 12:05:53 pm
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.

You've killed someone while driving? Gangster! Murderer! And it's ok to hit cyclists, they piss off everyone with their attitude.

You mean the attitude that you should observe them as any other vehicle on the road with all the rights of way that entails since that is exactly how the law views them? Do you get pissed and throw your beer bottles and scream at the guy driving his tractor down the road too?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 21, 2014, 12:08:01 pm
Cyclist are fine.  Bikes aren't loud or annoying.

Motorcycles, however, are the worst thing I can ever envision existing on a street, and I'm including nuclear bombs in that set.  I'm convinced that people that ride motorcycles have no respect for any other thing---living or nonliving---on the planet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on August 21, 2014, 12:14:30 pm
Cyclist are fine.  Bikes aren't loud or annoying.

Motorcycles, however, are the worst thing I can ever envision existing on a street, and I'm including nuclear bombs in that set.  I'm convinced that people that ride motorcycles have no respect for any other thing---living or nonliving---on the planet.
My issue with cyclists is how they insist on riding on the road even when there is a perfectly good bike path built specifically for them right next to that road!  Where I live, there is one road where the speed limit is 50 mph and it's four lanes divided "highway" type road (even though it's not a highway) that has a bike path.  And yet, I often find bicyclists riding on the street rather than the bike path.  I understand bicyclists on roads without bike paths, fine.

Motorcyclists are often ok, but I have had issues with them being dumb.  Especially in traffic on the highway... ugh...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 21, 2014, 12:19:00 pm
The point is that their vehicles are loud and obnoxious and it fills me with blind, seething rage every time I hear one go by.  If I had one super power I could choose, it would be the ability to will the instantaneous explosion of motorcycles.  I'm not so concerned with the people on the motorcycles after the explosion.  They should have had some more respect for the people around them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 21, 2014, 12:21:55 pm
I can see where the rage is coming from, but let's not forget that there are cyclists and motorcyclists who are not utter douchebags. I wouldn't be surprised if douchebags are in the minority. You just pay attention to them more when they're disregarding traffic laws or zipping by between cars in rush hour traffic. You generally don't notice the guy who's following every rule and being considerate of other drivers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 21, 2014, 12:26:43 pm
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.

You've killed someone while driving? Gangster! Murderer! And it's ok to hit cyclists, they piss off everyone with their attitude.

You mean the attitude that you should observe them as any other vehicle on the road with all the rights of way that entails since that is exactly how the law views them?

He probably meant the attitude that they don't behave as any other vehicle on the road, with all the responsibilities that it entails even tough that is exactly how the law views them.

For the record, I cycle more often than I drive. Most cyclist I see are near-suicidal. Sometimes I just have to stop and salute them with an "¡Ole, torero!". Unfortunately nobody understands me when I am abroad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 21, 2014, 12:54:48 pm
I was told that motorcycles are loud so that you notice them where you otherwise might not have, thus a safety measure. I'm not so sure that is the intended effect but it could be construed as a positive side effect.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 21, 2014, 01:56:06 pm
The worst thing is when there's a lot of traffic, and two cyclists are riding side-by-side in the bike lane, basically being in the lane.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 21, 2014, 02:39:50 pm
Well, I am probably the only one on the forum who has hit a bear while driving.  Maybe that's what the birds on my dash are angry about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Twistedarcher on August 21, 2014, 03:53:56 pm
Well, I am probably the only one on the forum who has hit a bear while driving.  Maybe that's what the birds on my dash are angry about.

Were you trying to avoid a moose?

http://gawker.com/5935491/swerving-to-miss-moose-norwegian-man-slams-into-bear
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 21, 2014, 07:32:30 pm
Wait are cyclists not humans?!?!

Cyclists are like centaurs.  Half human, half bicycle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 21, 2014, 07:35:11 pm
Wait are cyclists not humans?!?!

Cyclists are like centaurs.  Half human, half bicycle.

I thought, "I would love to see fan art of this."  And then I did a google search.  And well...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLw2sIMCUAACC0r.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSH-Wo9eG5jI07Lgr437TYFKhloFYCoAMFjmr8t0NYAywLTpduntw)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Jimmmmm on August 21, 2014, 09:50:31 pm
What about this guy?

(http://www.drawnfrommybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Centaur-Bike.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 22, 2014, 05:01:04 am
Urrgh, okay. If you have not tried reading Worm, then you should read Worm because it's excellent.

If you have read Worm and liked it, then you should read Pact. It takes much, much longer to get interesting and as captivating, but when it does? It's so good, and then regular releases of next chapters? I want to fanboy about it so much but it's hard to do so without spoiling it.

Here's some favorite lines that I'm probably misremembering, and hopefully don't spoil anything.

"It's just like economics. Supply and demand. You have great demand for not dying horribly, and I can supply ways for you to not die horribly."

"Motorcycles rocked. Humanity? It varied."

"Oh god. You’re telling me that I have to work for my salvation by making friends?"

"I won. I'm weak and broken and flawed and I still beat you, you motherfucking fucker. I won, and there's nothing you can do about it."
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 22, 2014, 11:36:02 am
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.

You've killed someone while driving? Gangster! Murderer! And it's ok to hit cyclists, they piss off everyone with their attitude.

You mean the attitude that you should observe them as any other vehicle on the road with all the rights of way that entails since that is exactly how the law views them? Do you get pissed and throw your beer bottles and scream at the guy driving his tractor down the road too?

Except here in Montreal, most cyclists don't follow traffic laws like other vehicles. They weaving between cars, go through stop signs AND red lights, and usually don't ride on the specified bikes paths even when they are on the street right next to them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 22, 2014, 11:54:01 am
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuF-WB7mD6k
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 22, 2014, 11:59:55 am
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

totally doing this the next time I have an unstable table
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 22, 2014, 01:06:59 pm
At least one mathematician just eats the table, IIRC.

My phone juat turned a misspelling of "mathematician" into "maybe magician."
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 22, 2014, 01:11:39 pm
At least one mathematician just eats the table, IIRC.

My phone juat turned a misspelling of "mathematician" into "maybe magician."
But didn't change "juat".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 22, 2014, 01:22:46 pm
I don't know juat you're talking about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 22, 2014, 01:37:24 pm
At least one mathematician just eats the table, IIRC.

My phone juat turned a misspelling of "mathematician" into "maybe magician."

Well he better not eat me!

...

...

What?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 22, 2014, 03:37:56 pm
Urrgh, okay. If you have not tried reading Worm, then you should read Worm because it's excellent.

If you have read Worm and liked it, then you should read Pact. It takes much, much longer to get interesting and as captivating, but when it does? It's so good, and then regular releases of next chapters? I want to fanboy about it so much but it's hard to do so without spoiling it.

Here's some favorite lines that I'm probably misremembering, and hopefully don't spoil anything.

"It's just like economics. Supply and demand. You have great demand for not dying horribly, and I can supply ways for you to not die horribly."

"Motorcycles rocked. Humanity? It varied."

"Oh god. You’re telling me that I have to work for my salvation by making friends?"

"I won. I'm weak and broken and flawed and I still beat you, you motherfucking fucker. I won, and there's nothing you can do about it."

I've read Worm and I'm caught up on Pact.  Out of curiosity, what prompted this sudden advertisement?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 22, 2014, 04:37:47 pm
Real men just break a leg off of the table because they don't need math to prove that three legs are always stable. Unfortunately most 4 legged tables do not have the legs properly positioned for 3 legged standing. Thus, we tend to just smash the entire table and sit at the bar instead.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 22, 2014, 04:41:00 pm
Real men just break a leg off of the table because they don't need math to prove that three legs are always stable. Unfortunately most 4 legged tables do not have the legs properly positioned for 3 legged standing. Thus, we tend to just smash the entire table and sit at the bar instead.

They're talking about mathematicians, not men.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on August 22, 2014, 04:44:53 pm
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.

You've killed someone while driving? Gangster! Murderer! And it's ok to hit cyclists, they piss off everyone with their attitude.

You mean the attitude that you should observe them as any other vehicle on the road with all the rights of way that entails since that is exactly how the law views them? Do you get pissed and throw your beer bottles and scream at the guy driving his tractor down the road too?

Except here in Montreal, most cyclists don't follow traffic laws like other vehicles. They weaving between cars, go through stop signs AND red lights, and usually don't ride on the specified bikes paths even when they are on the street right next to them.

Fun fact, I don't ride entirely in the bike lanes because if I did I WOULD BE RIDING IN THE DOOR ZONE AND MORE LIKELY TO BE INJURED.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 22, 2014, 04:53:05 pm
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.

You've killed someone while driving? Gangster! Murderer! And it's ok to hit cyclists, they piss off everyone with their attitude.

You mean the attitude that you should observe them as any other vehicle on the road with all the rights of way that entails since that is exactly how the law views them? Do you get pissed and throw your beer bottles and scream at the guy driving his tractor down the road too?

Except here in Montreal, most cyclists don't follow traffic laws like other vehicles. They weaving between cars, go through stop signs AND red lights, and usually don't ride on the specified bikes paths even when they are on the street right next to them.

Fun fact, I don't ride entirely in the bike lanes because if I did I WOULD BE RIDING IN THE DOOR ZONE AND MORE LIKELY TO BE INJURED.

Here there's lanes that are between the parked cars and the sidewalk. There's no excuse
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 22, 2014, 05:51:22 pm
My hit count is one bird, one deer, one human, and almost a cyclist who decided it was a good idea to stop right in front of my car while I was about to turn.

You've killed someone while driving? Gangster! Murderer! And it's ok to hit cyclists, they piss off everyone with their attitude.

You mean the attitude that you should observe them as any other vehicle on the road with all the rights of way that entails since that is exactly how the law views them? Do you get pissed and throw your beer bottles and scream at the guy driving his tractor down the road too?

Except here in Montreal, most cyclists don't follow traffic laws like other vehicles. They weaving between cars, go through stop signs AND red lights, and usually don't ride on the specified bikes paths even when they are on the street right next to them.

Fun fact, I don't ride entirely in the bike lanes because if I did I WOULD BE RIDING IN THE DOOR ZONE AND MORE LIKELY TO BE INJURED.

Here there's lanes that are between the parked cars and the sidewalk. There's no excuse

I live in the middle of the Rust Belt.  We don't have your fancy bike lanes around here, because real Americans only drive huge cars.

No, but seriously, the lack of bike lanes here is sad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 22, 2014, 07:24:04 pm
When my girlfriend and I were in Montreal we noticed a couple roads that had nice elevated bike paths on the side of the road that were really nice. We're fans of the whole "separate but equal" thing. Wait... no not like that!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 23, 2014, 01:03:35 am
I've read Worm and I'm caught up on Pact.  Out of curiosity, what prompted this sudden advertisement?

Combination of anticipation for the next update, and a delayed reaction to the end of Arc 9. I was expecting parts of it...but didn't expect what actually happened.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 23, 2014, 01:48:46 am
I've read Worm and I'm caught up on Pact.  Out of curiosity, what prompted this sudden advertisement?

Combination of anticipation for the next update, and a delayed reaction to the end of Arc 9. I was expecting parts of it...but didn't expect what actually happened.

So you're not caught up yet?  Arc 9 ended about a week ago.  It's been pretty crazy though, yeah. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 23, 2014, 05:11:23 am
I've read Worm and I'm caught up on Pact.  Out of curiosity, what prompted this sudden advertisement?

Combination of anticipation for the next update, and a delayed reaction to the end of Arc 9. I was expecting parts of it...but didn't expect what actually happened.

So you're not caught up yet?  Arc 9 ended about a week ago.  It's been pretty crazy though, yeah. :P

I'm caught up now. I read all of act 10 so far serially, just got a little antsy for the inevitable moment when everything goes to hell. Hopefully, in a metaphorical way.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 23, 2014, 01:22:29 pm
Anyone know about this?  http://en.spaceengine.org/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 24, 2014, 07:12:07 am
I hope I didn't post this before, but I've been listening to this background music video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zkE-fxN-gE) for quite a while. I had it playing a few months back as well and my housemate (who is entirely not into video games) told me he liked it and wanted to know what it was. I've found it to be really great as background music - calm, varied and long.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 24, 2014, 11:26:19 am
I hope I didn't post this before, but I've been listening to this background music video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zkE-fxN-gE) for quite a while. I had it playing a few months back as well and my housemate (who is entirely not into video games) told me he liked it and wanted to know what it was. I've found it to be really great as background music - calm, varied and long.

Jesper Kyd is great. His music for Hitman is also really good and moody.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on August 24, 2014, 12:34:23 pm
Winnie the Pooh turns 100.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnie-the-pooh-saga-turns-100-years-old-today-1.2745104 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnie-the-pooh-saga-turns-100-years-old-today-1.2745104)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 24, 2014, 04:37:13 pm
Winnie the Pooh turns 100.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnie-the-pooh-saga-turns-100-years-old-today-1.2745104 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnie-the-pooh-saga-turns-100-years-old-today-1.2745104)

Oh bother.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on August 25, 2014, 05:42:45 am
I just did a thing I read on the internet that wasn't labelled "lifehack" but probably should have been. It actually worked and didn't make me look like an idiot.

My hand does hurt, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on August 25, 2014, 05:56:12 am
Now I'm curious what it was.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on August 25, 2014, 06:00:16 am
Removing festival wristband

Quote
I heard about a method using an unfolded crisp packet using the silvery greasy side against your wrist it helps it slide off easily. Not 100% sure of the process but it I've been told it works.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 25, 2014, 08:37:44 am
People react to me strangely when I explain the "lifehack" of eating an entire apple. I'm not sure if it truly constitutes a lifehack. I suppose it slightly improves your lifestyle in that you waste just a little less food.

Basically, you just eat the apple from the bottom up. You get that bitter core, but it's combined with the savory areas surrounding it, so it's not so bad.

And I guess we're so accustomed to fruits bred without seeds that the most incredulous question I get is, "You even eat the seeds?!"

The answer is that I don't normally eat the seeds because when I eat an apple that way, the seeds are fairly easy to just pop out. If I don't have a trash can handy, though, then I'll eat the seeds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 25, 2014, 08:52:07 am
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s---D75eFui--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18qo1hwto00mfjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 25, 2014, 08:55:54 am
I so didn't need to see that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on August 25, 2014, 09:40:35 am
I so didn't need to see that.

butt really
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on August 25, 2014, 11:01:33 am
Our dog's isn't quite so obvious but then, I suspect some Photoshopping in the posted picture. At any rate, our dog has earned a new nickname; "Dirty Jeezus".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 25, 2014, 11:29:44 am
I think today's xkcd really embodies "Random Stuff":

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles.png) (http://xkcd.com/1412/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 25, 2014, 11:36:59 am
I so didn't need to see that.

butt really

I'm so confused right now, I thought I was in the random stuff thread but it turns out it's the thread on the 206th card.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 25, 2014, 11:39:18 am
I so didn't need to see that.

butt really

I'm so confused right now, I thought I was in the random stuff thread but it turns out it's the thread on the 206th card.

Given enough time, the Random Stuff thread should eventually intersect every other thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 25, 2014, 11:43:38 am
You monkeys still haven't given me Shakespeare. Must add more monkeys.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 25, 2014, 11:50:21 am
You monkeys still haven't given me Shakespeare. Must add more monkeys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpcTyxisqOM
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 25, 2014, 01:03:21 pm
I have exactly +3000 respect!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on August 25, 2014, 01:24:10 pm
I have exactly +3000 respect!
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 25, 2014, 01:33:16 pm
I so didn't need to see that.

butt really

I'm so confused right now, I thought I was in the random stuff thread but it turns out it's the thread on the 206th card.

Ah the memories.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on August 25, 2014, 01:34:06 pm
I have exactly +3000 respect!
you liar. i should punish you by removing a respect from one of your posts... but that wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 25, 2014, 01:39:48 pm
And yes, there is an xkcd strip about this very thing:
http://thestack.com/password1-mnemonic-password-methods

I'm glad it acknowledged the problem with discussing security on the internet. Any solution they publish could be picked up by hackers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 25, 2014, 02:45:26 pm
Another Touhou mix. Mix of orchestrated songs and folk-like songs, personally like the ones starting at 6:35, 13:47, and the two songs by Frontier Aja.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLRyCGBamq0
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Davio on August 25, 2014, 03:36:46 pm
I never thought my humble topic would grow to become a 5000+ post monster, but I'm glad we kept all of it out of the other topics. :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on August 25, 2014, 06:41:22 pm
Removing festival wristband

Quote
I heard about a method using an unfolded crisp packet using the silvery greasy side against your wrist it helps it slide off easily. Not 100% sure of the process but it I've been told it works.

If you just start tearing it off from the place you put it on, it wrips the paper in two the really thin way and eventually just comes off.  It's really easy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 25, 2014, 06:54:34 pm
Removing festival wristband

Quote
I heard about a method using an unfolded crisp packet using the silvery greasy side against your wrist it helps it slide off easily. Not 100% sure of the process but it I've been told it works.

If you just start tearing it off from the place you put it on, it wrips the paper in two the really thin way and eventually just comes off.  It's really easy.

Since TINAS is talking about using grease, I'm assuming the key thing is to slip the wristband off without wrecking it, so that you can slip it on again later (or let somebody else put it on).  The method you describe for simply removing the band is well known, and even if TINAS didn't know it he would surely just use scissors or a knife rather than resorting to some obscure grease technique.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 25, 2014, 06:56:06 pm
Removing festival wristband

Quote
I heard about a method using an unfolded crisp packet using the silvery greasy side against your wrist it helps it slide off easily. Not 100% sure of the process but it I've been told it works.

If you just start tearing it off from the place you put it on, it wrips the paper in two the really thin way and eventually just comes off.  It's really easy.

Since TINAS is talking about using grease, I'm assuming the key thing is to slip the wristband off without wrecking it, so that you can slip it on again later (or let somebody else put it on).  The method you describe for simply removing the band is well known, and even if TINAS didn't know it he would surely just use scissors or a knife rather than resorting to some obscure grease technique.

Obscure Grease Technique is my next band name.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 25, 2014, 08:58:17 pm
Removing festival wristband

Quote
I heard about a method using an unfolded crisp packet using the silvery greasy side against your wrist it helps it slide off easily. Not 100% sure of the process but it I've been told it works.

If you just start tearing it off from the place you put it on, it wrips the paper in two the really thin way and eventually just comes off.  It's really easy.

Since TINAS is talking about using grease, I'm assuming the key thing is to slip the wristband off without wrecking it, so that you can slip it on again later (or let somebody else put it on).  The method you describe for simply removing the band is well known, and even if TINAS didn't know it he would surely just use scissors or a knife rather than resorting to some obscure grease technique.

Obscure Grease Technique is my next band name.

What's your current band name?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 25, 2014, 09:12:02 pm
Removing festival wristband

Quote
I heard about a method using an unfolded crisp packet using the silvery greasy side against your wrist it helps it slide off easily. Not 100% sure of the process but it I've been told it works.

If you just start tearing it off from the place you put it on, it wrips the paper in two the really thin way and eventually just comes off.  It's really easy.

Since TINAS is talking about using grease, I'm assuming the key thing is to slip the wristband off without wrecking it, so that you can slip it on again later (or let somebody else put it on).  The method you describe for simply removing the band is well known, and even if TINAS didn't know it he would surely just use scissors or a knife rather than resorting to some obscure grease technique.

Obscure Grease Technique is my next band name.

What's your current band name?

A Few Guys (And A Girl) Who Kinda Make Music Together Sometimes
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on August 25, 2014, 09:14:54 pm
What's your current band name?

A Few Guys (And A Girl) Who Kinda Make Music Together Sometimes

AFG(AAG)WKMMTS? Doesn't really roll off the tongue.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 25, 2014, 10:04:40 pm
What's your current band name?

A Few Guys (And A Girl) Who Kinda Make Music Together Sometimes

AFG(AAG)WKMMTS? Doesn't really roll off the tongue.

My girlfriend likes a band called The World Is a Beautiful Place and I am No Longer Afraid to Die.

I call them (and a lot of other bands she likes) Let's Get Pretentious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 25, 2014, 10:17:15 pm
A while ago, Extra Credits featured a game called Hands of Fate (via "James Recommends").  It's currently part of an EC-themed humble bundle, currently available here (https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly).  It's still in Early Access but looks like something that people here would like.  It mixes rogue-like elements with deckbuilding and Arkham City-style combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju1IOCgn2kY
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 25, 2014, 10:33:30 pm
Man, just tear the wristband off; it's not that hard.  Keep pulling until it breaks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on August 25, 2014, 11:21:48 pm
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

totally doing this the next time I have an unstable table

This assumes that the ground is continuous though. What about bricks? Bricks are the worst. Also, I've definitely found that the problem is sometimes with the table and not with the ground.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 25, 2014, 11:32:04 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/f0de347883ad304db58cce8d6bc0f0d6/tumblr_n6kavuFCCt1rnqlk4o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on August 26, 2014, 01:29:24 am
What's your current band name?

A Few Guys (And A Girl) Who Kinda Make Music Together Sometimes

AFG(AAG)WKMMTS? Doesn't really roll off the tongue.

My girlfriend likes a band called The World Is a Beautiful Place and I am No Longer Afraid to Die.

I call them (and a lot of other bands she likes) Let's Get Pretentious.
I call my ex pretentious. Coincidentally her name ended in "lie" as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 26, 2014, 09:23:10 am
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

totally doing this the next time I have an unstable table

This assumes that the ground is continuous though. What about bricks? Bricks are the worst. Also, I've definitely found that the problem is sometimes with the table and not with the ground.

At least it's not assuming a frictionless plane.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 26, 2014, 09:26:55 am
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

totally doing this the next time I have an unstable table

This assumes that the ground is continuous though. What about bricks? Bricks are the worst. Also, I've definitely found that the problem is sometimes with the table and not with the ground.

At least it's not assuming a frictionless plane.

Well, if the table is on a large patch of wet grass, it's modeled fairly accurately as a frictionless plain.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 26, 2014, 09:27:31 am
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

totally doing this the next time I have an unstable table

This assumes that the ground is continuous though. What about bricks? Bricks are the worst. Also, I've definitely found that the problem is sometimes with the table and not with the ground.

At least it's not assuming a frictionless plane.

Well, if the table is on a large patch of wet grass, it's modeled fairly accurately as a frictionless plain.

Never knew you liked hanging out on large patches of wet grass.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 26, 2014, 09:38:48 am
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

totally doing this the next time I have an unstable table

This assumes that the ground is continuous though. What about bricks? Bricks are the worst. Also, I've definitely found that the problem is sometimes with the table and not with the ground.

At least it's not assuming a frictionless plane.

Well, if the table is on a large patch of wet grass, it's modeled fairly accurately as a frictionless plain.

Never knew you liked hanging out on large patches of wet grass.

That's what she said.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 26, 2014, 09:58:24 am
Mathematicians never have unstable tables:

totally doing this the next time I have an unstable table

This assumes that the ground is continuous though. What about bricks? Bricks are the worst. Also, I've definitely found that the problem is sometimes with the table and not with the ground.

At least it's not assuming a frictionless plane.

...in a vacuum.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 26, 2014, 12:54:01 pm
You know, I do love Excel... most of the time... but then sometimes you have to debug or edit formulae that look like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/1rZ7UPb.png)

This is the point someone says something like "You're trying to convert data from a spreadsheet to a wiki right? You know there's a much quicker way to do that by doing [X]". And then I feel stupid.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on August 26, 2014, 01:33:32 pm
Is that somehow Fire Emblem related?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 26, 2014, 01:34:40 pm
Yes. It's a spreadsheet with enemy stats in Awakening, which I'm now transferring from a spreadsheet into SerenesForest's wiki
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on August 26, 2014, 01:37:56 pm
Cool beans. I remember you being into FE and when there was Wyvern Rider, Steel Axe and stats that could very well be a Wyvern Rider's I had to ask. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on August 26, 2014, 01:39:33 pm
Removing festival wristband

Quote
I heard about a method using an unfolded crisp packet using the silvery greasy side against your wrist it helps it slide off easily. Not 100% sure of the process but it I've been told it works.

If you just start tearing it off from the place you put it on, it wrips the paper in two the really thin way and eventually just comes off.  It's really easy.

Since TINAS is talking about using grease, I'm assuming the key thing is to slip the wristband off without wrecking it, so that you can slip it on again later (or let somebody else put it on).  The method you describe for simply removing the band is well known, and even if TINAS didn't know it he would surely just use scissors or a knife rather than resorting to some obscure grease technique.

The idea is to remove it intact to hang with my other wristbands next to my collage of concert ticket stubs. I don't intend to re-wear it but I don't want it damaged. Also, it's a proper fabric wristband, not a shitty paper one. Shitty paper ones go straight in the bin.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 26, 2014, 01:41:43 pm
I really wish Excel displayed nested IF statements better. Stepping into the equation helps me a lot, but I wish it was more intuitive to follow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: StrongRhino on August 26, 2014, 08:57:39 pm
Just got Tomodachi Life for 3DS, it's pretty fun.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 26, 2014, 10:16:40 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/fIQ4CA4.png) (http://imgur.com/fIQ4CA4)

Sub 19 minutes! Sloppiness earlier got saved by a very clean endgame, if I could actually reproduce it consistently I can break 18 minutes very easily...but nailing all the platforming in the last couple of levels is really tough.

Edit:

(http://i.imgur.com/O1sFj4U.png)

Fuck this game :/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on August 27, 2014, 04:48:55 pm
A statement from the monkey (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/statement-monkey?utm_source=tny&utm_campaign=generalsocial&utm_medium=facebook&mbid=social_facebook)

EDIT: for context

(http://assets.zocalo.com.mx/uploads/articles/4/140745762779.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on August 27, 2014, 05:11:24 pm
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/7women.png)

A list of fictional characters?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on August 27, 2014, 05:42:15 pm
Office food hacks

(http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/137774/MC-office-3.jpg) (http://www.vice.com/read/food-hacking-at-the-office?utm_source=vicetumblrus)

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on August 28, 2014, 04:33:40 am
In the middle of reading Ra by qntm. Here's a fairly interesting standalone chapter, it doesn't seem to spoil anything and the required background knowledge is mostly covered within the chapter. The main background you need is that magic is real, magic is a science with consistent + verifiable results, and doing anything in magic requires significant effort.

http://qntm.org/jesus
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 28, 2014, 06:35:48 am
Yesterday I won a game of Terra Mystica where I scored 51 points in endgame bonuses (uniquely first place in all four cults and largest area, plus 3 coins left over). I was playing against players with a few games behind them each but one only just connected his areas and mostly built up, not out, while the other had two totally separate areas. Neither competed cults very much either, letting me win two cults with 10/10/9/9.

I was playing Chaos Magicians and managed to end up with two towns, that I linked together via direct adjacency.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on August 28, 2014, 07:15:09 am
Winning every cult, really ? That's... interesting, of course the Chaos Magicians are the best equipped for this with the multiple favors, but in our games there's alwqays at least one cult that gets locked down since you can't lock all 4.

How much did you score total ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 28, 2014, 07:39:48 am
Winning every cult, really ? That's... interesting, of course the Chaos Magicians are the best equipped for this with the multiple favors, but in our games there's alwqays at least one cult that gets locked down since you can't lock all 4.

How much did you score total ?

I think it was about 138. So a pretty big chunk of my points were endgame scoring. I also did fairly well on some later round bonuses, which stacked with favour tiles (R4: Trading Posts I got 6+6 more from favour tile. R5: Towns I got 10. R6: Dwellings I got 8+8 more from favour tile).

Edit: And like I mentioned, nobody else really competed the cults too much. I think the highest anyone else got was to 8 on Air, which I promptly took as my second capped track (first was Fire).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on August 28, 2014, 09:12:54 am
http://imgur.com/gallery/Bq4D6

Read to the end.  Trust me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on August 28, 2014, 09:18:12 am
http://imgur.com/gallery/Bq4D6

Read to the end.  Trust me.

Can confirm, read to the end.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on August 28, 2014, 09:22:43 am
http://imgur.com/gallery/Bq4D6

Read to the end.  Trust me.

Worth it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on August 28, 2014, 10:02:39 am
Was that a Harry Potter interpretation? I've never read HP or seen the movies, so the joke went a bit over my head.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on August 28, 2014, 10:15:35 am
Was that a Harry Potter interpretation? I've never read HP or seen the movies, so the joke went a bit over my head.

Not an interpretation, an accurate summary of Snape's story.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 28, 2014, 10:21:46 am
Was that a Harry Potter interpretation? I've never read HP or seen the movies, so the joke went a bit over my head.

This was this person's real-life story.  JK Rowling once met this man in a bar, and after many a pint he started telling her his entire life story.  She took his story and wrote it into Harry Potter without giving this man any credit at all.  They are currently in litigation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Morgrim7 on August 28, 2014, 10:27:46 am
I enjoy eating dirt.

EDIT: not really. That's just an expression
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 28, 2014, 10:51:09 am
Cute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ysyZF-DZFY
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on August 29, 2014, 10:49:12 am
Probably the best thing I've seen in a while:

http://imgur.com/gallery/3fMih
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on August 29, 2014, 12:32:19 pm
Have you guys played "Papers, Please"? It's been out for a little while but I just got around to playing it. It's a cool little game made by one guy, who describes it as a "dystopian document thriller."

Basically the premise is you play as a border control official between the fictional eastern bloc-style countries of Arstotzka and Kalechia. You must approve or deny entrants based on their documentation and Kafkaesque rules that change from day to day. This is the core mechanic, but you also have to earn enough to feed your impoverished family, and you encounter plenty of colorful characters and storyline along the way.

It's hard to describe this game and make it sound exciting but it's actually pretty awesome!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 29, 2014, 03:53:26 pm
Have you guys played "Papers, Please"? It's been out for a little while but I just got around to playing it. It's a cool little game made by one guy, who describes it as a "dystopian document thriller."

I have some Best Buy certificates I need to spend before they expire. I hoped to find it there, but no such luck. It looks like I could get it from Steam. I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on August 29, 2014, 04:06:48 pm
Drummer cat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwvrD7gykg
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on August 29, 2014, 04:07:58 pm
I haven't slept in 36 hours. And only slept 3 of the last 54 hours.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on August 29, 2014, 04:30:12 pm
I haven't slept in 36 hours. And only slept 3 of the last 54 hours.

I hope it have been worth it, and was at least partially of your own will.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on August 30, 2014, 01:12:13 pm
Drummer cat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwvrD7gykg

Cleverly filmed, but that cat sure didn't look happy about it. Toward the end, I think he was slowly writhing himself away from it, but he was just too tired to try.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on August 31, 2014, 11:29:11 am
I haven't slept in 36 hours. And only slept 3 of the last 54 hours.
I remember when I was younger I got out of bed at noon on a Thursday and didn't go to sleep again until 4am Sunday morning. It wasn't even intentional.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 01, 2014, 03:46:19 pm
Not really sure what can be said about this one.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1471737999740818
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 01, 2014, 05:01:02 pm
I've just applied for a job for which I have great qualifications, but for various reasons won't likely be able to take the job even if offered; I just wanted a chance to polish my resume and interview skills.  Is this unethical?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 01, 2014, 05:11:45 pm
Not really sure what can be said about this one.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1471737999740818

Congratulations, you truly understand the spirit of the Random Stuff thread. You have achieved a higher level of enlightenment, there is nothing more we can teach you here. Go forth and spread the Wisdom.

I've just applied for a job for which I have great qualifications, but for various reasons won't likely be able to take the job even if offered; I just wanted a chance to polish my resume and interview skills.  Is this unethical?

IMHO, it depends on how likely you are to get a job elsewhere without this practice. If it's your first or second job (which I think it isn't?) or if you've been out of the job market for a while and need to brush up, I would say it isn't. However, if the interview process has multiple stages and (say) they are going to fly you across the country/continent for it, then yes, it is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Twistedarcher on September 01, 2014, 05:12:35 pm
I've just applied for a job for which I have great qualifications, but for various reasons won't likely be able to take the job even if offered; I just wanted a chance to polish my resume and interview skills.  Is this unethical?

I don't think so at all. Who knows, you might get blown away and end up taking an offer you could get.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 01, 2014, 05:16:29 pm
I've just applied for a job for which I have great qualifications, but for various reasons won't likely be able to take the job even if offered; I just wanted a chance to polish my resume and interview skills.  Is this unethical?

I'd say it's very mildly immoral. You're wasting somebody else's time for your own gratification. It's not so immoral that I'd judge you badly for it, though. It's something I wouldn't feel too bad about doing myself, although I have trouble imagining myself doing job interviews for funsies.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 01, 2014, 05:33:18 pm
I've just applied for a job for which I have great qualifications, but for various reasons won't likely be able to take the job even if offered; I just wanted a chance to polish my resume and interview skills.  Is this unethical?

No.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 01, 2014, 06:50:12 pm
I've just applied for a job for which I have great qualifications, but for various reasons won't likely be able to take the job even if offered; I just wanted a chance to polish my resume and interview skills.  Is this unethical?

I’d say it’s a little unethical in that you wasted this interviewer’s time with no intent of following through with it. But I don’t think it’s a big deal. In business, people climb over each other all the time for their own benefits. You got a benefit out of interviewing, and you used a company to achieve it. How else are you going to get that practice? You could try a mock interview, but that wouldn’t have the same benefit.

The reason I think it’s so minor is that interviewers plan for people declining the job offers. They know that applicants are interviewing at multiple jobs at once, and the company may not even be their first choice. Or maybe it was, but they took too long to send an acceptance letter so that the applicant took a different offer.

I’d say yours is a trivial breach of etiquette, and it’s in an environment where it’s actually expected. So I wouldn’t feel guilty about it if I were you. It might be a bigger inconvenience for a small company where the owner/boss/janitor took time out to interview you, but honestly what else was that guy in HR going to do if he wasn’t interviewing you?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 01, 2014, 07:23:41 pm
I would say yes, though there are far more important things
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 02, 2014, 01:11:23 am
Truth.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1610801_4569099521318_1748302147069894553_n.jpg?oh=07cc647ec8aaa0e18f44a90022082a0d&oe=547754A1&__gda__=1417383754_2756058de23405cb11ea6eaec0093675)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 02, 2014, 01:39:44 am
So a microphone equals 4 women? Damn, I have way more people in this room right now than I thought. EDIT: 20 actually, including me. And three cats.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 02, 2014, 09:18:27 am
Cue awful joke from Awaclus... oh wait.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 02, 2014, 02:33:54 pm
Cue awful joke from Awaclus... oh wait.
The jokes aren't meant to be funny, the fact that someone even bothers to make them is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 02, 2014, 05:13:45 pm
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/edc71685d373e50e500061322fe22c8d/tumblr_n9lz6v6zMm1qh9169o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 02, 2014, 05:25:14 pm
This guy wins everything. Even the Game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: mail-mi on September 02, 2014, 06:57:15 pm
This guy wins everything. Even the Game.
You suck. I lost the game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 02, 2014, 07:02:59 pm
A goedendag (also rendered godendac, godendard, godendart, and sometimes conflated with the related plançon) was a weapon originally used by the militias of Medieval Flanders in the 14th century, notably during the Franco-Flemish War.

...

The name "goedendag" derives from Dutch, usually taken in English sources to have meant "good day", with reference to the revolt of Bruges in 1302, at which the guildsmen of Bruges purportedly took over the city by greeting people in the streets, and murdering anyone who answered with a French accent. This derivation of the name may however be spurious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 02, 2014, 11:46:30 pm
I saw this ad for a black metal CD tower and thought it was going to have pentagrams and satanic passages on it. Alas, it's just a black metal CD tower.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/fuo/4649044804.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 03, 2014, 09:13:36 am
yea because black metal is all about pentagrams and satanic passages
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 03, 2014, 09:38:30 am
yea because black metal is all about pentagrams and satanic passages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_metal

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Initially a synonym for "Satanic metal"...Many artists express extreme anti-Christian and misanthropic views, and several of the genre's "second wave" pioneers have been convicted for church burnings and murder.
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Black metal was originally used as a term for extreme metal bands with Satanic and anti-Christian lyrics; today, the most common lyrical theme is opposition to Christianity and other organized religions. As part of this, many artists write lyrics that could be seen to promote atheism, antitheism, paganism or Satanism
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Some bands consider their concerts to be rituals...are noted for their controversial shows, which have featured impaled animal heads, mock crucifixions, medieval weaponry and band members doused in animal blood.
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The term "black metal" was coined by the English band Venom with their second album Black Metal (1982). Although deemed thrash metal rather than black metal by today's standards, the album's lyrics and imagery focused more on anti-Christian and Satanic themes than any before it.
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In 1987, in the fifth issue of his Slayer fanzine, Metalion wrote that "the latest fad of Black/Satanic bands seems to be over",
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The scene was bitterly opposed to Christianity and organized religion as a whole. In interviews during the early 1990s, members of the scene presented themselves as misanthropic Devil worshippers who wanted to spread hatred, sorrow and evil.
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The current Swedish black metal scene has a particularly ambitious and articulate understanding of mysticism and its validity to black metal. Many Swedish black metal bands, most notably Watain and Dissection, are [or were] affiliated with the Temple of the Black Light, or Misanthropic Luciferian Order
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Bands that were part of the 'first wave' had 'Satanic' imagery and lyrics, although most of them were not Satanists.[157] However, for the early 'second wave' bands in Norway, Satanism as an ideology defined black metal.
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As part of this, some black metal artists have written about or focused on the ancient pre-Christian cultures of their homelands. Sam Dunn noted of the Norwegian scene that "unlike any other heavy metal scene, the culture and the place is incorporated into the music and imagery".
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The pentagram is commonly used by bands in the genre
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 03, 2014, 10:27:20 am
Today I learned that the Stanford Prison Experiment is actually kinda BS.  The scientist in charge of it was the prison superintendent: he expected and encouraged guards to be sadistic, imposed arbitrary non-prison-like conditions (like not allowing prisoners to use their names), and overemphasized the guards that acted sadistically even though most of the guards were normal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 03, 2014, 10:42:56 am
Today I learned that the Stanford Prison Experiment is actually kinda BS.  The scientist in charge of it was the prison superintendent: he expected and encouraged guards to be sadistic, imposed arbitrary non-prison-like conditions (like not allowing prisoners to use their names), and overemphasized the guards that acted sadistically even though most of the guards were normal.

That kind of truth doesn't make for good documentaries.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 03, 2014, 12:21:31 pm
Today I learned that the Stanford Prison Experiment is actually kinda BS.  The scientist in charge of it was the prison superintendent: he expected and encouraged guards to be sadistic, imposed arbitrary non-prison-like conditions (like not allowing prisoners to use their names), and overemphasized the guards that acted sadistically even though most of the guards were normal.


Not being true to a prison environment does not negate the change in demeanor among the guards and prisoners. They were just put through a more extreme scenario.

But overemphasizing the guards' sadism does say a lot about the accepted outcome of the experiment.

Which reminds me that I should dig out my Unknown Armies scenario that I wrote based on the Stanford prison experiment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on September 03, 2014, 01:14:55 pm
The short version is, there was virtually nothing scientific about that experiment. It's a thing that happened, but pretty much every single conclusion most people draw from it is baseless.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 03, 2014, 01:20:55 pm
The short version is, there was virtually nothing scientific about that experiment. It's a thing that happened, but pretty much every single conclusion most people draw from it is baseless.

But if you tell them that, they will shock the hell out of you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 03, 2014, 02:18:30 pm
The short version is, there was virtually nothing scientific about that experiment. It's a thing that happened, but pretty much every single conclusion most people draw from it is baseless.

But if you tell them that, they will shock the hell out of you.

...isn't that the Milgram experiment?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 03, 2014, 02:53:21 pm
The short version is, there was virtually nothing scientific about that experiment. It's a thing that happened, but pretty much every single conclusion most people draw from it is baseless.

But if you tell them that, they will shock the hell out of you.

Isn't that just what happens when you throw holy water onto a socket?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 03, 2014, 03:17:58 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VpsANYl.gif) (http://imgur.com/gallery/VpsANYl)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 03, 2014, 04:19:20 pm

I'm pretty sure I just saw jello turn inside out
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 03, 2014, 04:51:18 pm
People laughed when I suggested a Galaxy Trucker PBF*. People laughed when I said I was serious**. Now look who's laughing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIXd9RHdZDc#t=647)***.

Coming soon**** to your Forum Games section: The very first Galaxy Trucker, PBF.

*This is probably not true. Most likely they just read my posts all like 'oh Tables is trying to be funny again.
**I never said this, and so once again, people probably didn't laugh at the thing I didn't say.
***The answer to this one is probably the same as the above two. I mean I'm not laughing, are any of you? Honestly these rhetoical questions are terrible. Heck they aren't even question!
**** (http://memecrunch.com/meme/DFQM/soon/image.png?w=500&c=1)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 03, 2014, 04:53:04 pm

I'm pretty sure I just saw jello turn inside out

I'm assuming this is just another way to say "thank you", so, you're welcome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 03, 2014, 04:53:25 pm
Quote
they aren't even question!

there needs to be an s
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 03, 2014, 04:58:02 pm
People laughed when I suggested a Galaxy Trucker PBF*. People laughed when I said I was serious**. Now look who's laughing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIXd9RHdZDc#t=647)***.

Coming soon**** to your Forum Games section: The very first Galaxy Trucker, PBF.

*This is probably not true. Most likely they just read my posts all like 'oh Tables is trying to be funny again.
**I never said this, and so once again, people probably didn't laugh at the thing I didn't say.
***The answer to this one is probably the same as the above two. I mean I'm not laughing, are any of you? Honestly these rhetoical questions are terrible. Heck they aren't even question!
**** (http://memecrunch.com/meme/DFQM/soon/image.png?w=500&c=1)

oh Tables is trying to b funny again.




But that is an interesting way to implement asynchronous play for a real time game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 03, 2014, 05:03:25 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8o8V8znUlA
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 03, 2014, 07:25:28 pm
The short version is, there was virtually nothing scientific about that experiment. It's a thing that happened, but pretty much every single conclusion most people draw from it is baseless.

But if you tell them that, they will shock the hell out of you.

...isn't that the Milgram experiment?

Just to make sure I re-looked up the Milgram experiment, and by my extensive research (meaning, only Wikipedia), that one is actually a legitimate result and has been replicated.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 03, 2014, 07:55:50 pm
At first, I was like, "14 minutes? Ugh. I'll just watch a little bit to get the gist."

Then I was like, "Well, I can probably move on. What do you mean I've watched 13 minutes already?"

People laughed when I suggested a Galaxy Trucker PBF*. People laughed when I said I was serious**. Now look who's laughing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIXd9RHdZDc#t=647)***.

Coming soon**** to your Forum Games section: The very first Galaxy Trucker, PBF.

*This is probably not true. Most likely they just read my posts all like 'oh Tables is trying to be funny again.
**I never said this, and so once again, people probably didn't laugh at the thing I didn't say.
***The answer to this one is probably the same as the above two. I mean I'm not laughing, are any of you? Honestly these rhetoical questions are terrible. Heck they aren't even question!
**** (http://memecrunch.com/meme/DFQM/soon/image.png?w=500&c=1)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 03, 2014, 08:46:36 pm
Found this, thought it appropriate for this forum.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10628357_10100774120762733_317589599662364800_n.jpg?oh=f6329e2282bc42f64919e6d9c422142b&oe=546793D9&__gda__=1417437920_7702914fdd3de632991f5adeb22e6837)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 03, 2014, 08:49:18 pm
Found this, thought it appropriate for this forum.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10628357_10100774120762733_317589599662364800_n.jpg?oh=f6329e2282bc42f64919e6d9c422142b&oe=546793D9&__gda__=1417437920_7702914fdd3de632991f5adeb22e6837)

He is tau-tally correct!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 03, 2014, 09:35:09 pm
Found this, thought it appropriate for this forum.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10628357_10100774120762733_317589599662364800_n.jpg?oh=f6329e2282bc42f64919e6d9c422142b&oe=546793D9&__gda__=1417437920_7702914fdd3de632991f5adeb22e6837)

He is tau-tally correct!

It's funny because FTTW doesn't know what radians are.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Archetype on September 03, 2014, 09:40:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VpsANYl.gif) (http://imgur.com/gallery/VpsANYl)
At first I thought that this was a packet of ketchup.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 03, 2014, 10:20:47 pm
It's funny because FTTW doesn't know what radians are.

That may or may not be true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 04, 2014, 01:58:39 am
I was in the middle of editing some dotfiles when I realized I actually care about my shell configuration, and want things like shorter aliases for "git checkout" and "git status" and a specific color scheme for vim. Suddenly I feel like much less of a UNIX noob.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 04, 2014, 05:14:40 am
It's funny because FTTW doesn't know what radians are.

That may or may not be true.

That is true.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 04, 2014, 06:04:43 am
People laughed when I suggested a Galaxy Trucker PBF*. People laughed when I said I was serious**. Now look who's laughing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIXd9RHdZDc#t=647)***.

Coming soon**** to your Forum Games section: The very first Galaxy Trucker, PBF.

*This is probably not true. Most likely they just read my posts all like 'oh Tables is trying to be funny again.
**I never said this, and so once again, people probably didn't laugh at the thing I didn't say.
***The answer to this one is probably the same as the above two. I mean I'm not laughing, are any of you? Honestly these rhetoical questions are terrible. Heck they aren't even question!
**** (http://memecrunch.com/meme/DFQM/soon/image.png?w=500&c=1)

I thought about that when I saw your post on BGG earlier, but it might be better to just wait for the app to come out.
Then again, it doesn't look like it will feature the expansions from what I saw, which I'm kinda bummed about, since that was one of the main things I was looking forward to. I rarely find people to play the base game with, yet alone the expansions :(
So maybe we should do a PBF with the expansions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 04, 2014, 06:40:35 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXQo7nURs0
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 04, 2014, 10:19:09 am
The short version is, there was virtually nothing scientific about that experiment. It's a thing that happened, but pretty much every single conclusion most people draw from it is baseless.

But if you tell them that, they will shock the hell out of you.

...isn't that the Milgram experiment?

Just to make sure I re-looked up the Milgram experiment, and by my extensive research (meaning, only Wikipedia), that one is actually a legitimate result and has been replicated.

Yes, I was just making light of the "shock the hell out of you" part.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 04, 2014, 10:23:59 am
I mean, I thought that would be funnier and easier to say than continuing with the prison one, and the two experiments are sort of used by laymen to conclude the same thing (that people are bastards).  I know it was a different experiment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 04, 2014, 11:39:07 am
I just started watching Parks and Rec (watched the pilot and episode 2 this last hour) and it is hilarious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 04, 2014, 11:43:00 am
Interesting, because Season 1 of P&R is notoriously poor compared to subsequent seasons.  You don't really miss much by skipping it all and just starting with Season 2.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 04, 2014, 11:46:21 am
Interesting, because Season 1 of P&R is notoriously poor compared to subsequent seasons.  You don't really miss much by skipping it all and just starting with Season 2.

While that is a popular opinion, I feel it is an overstatement. Season 1 is certainly the worst of the bunch, but it's still decent, and starting with the pilot is definitely better I think. People fail to account that this kind of comedy benefits greatly from familiarity with the characters, which is partly why it keeps getting better at first (that's before it gets stale, which would be this season).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 04, 2014, 11:50:04 am
I think that can be said of any series. Watch a season 1 episode of Seinfeld and then watch a season 6 episode right after. There's no comparison but that's because the characters hadn't developed at all yet in season 1. It usually takes a couple seasons for everyone to feel out their characters and settle in and for the writers to adapt to it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on September 04, 2014, 12:01:02 pm
http://jayisgames.com/archives/2013/09/my_fathers_long_long_legs.php (http://jayisgames.com/archives/2013/09/my_fathers_long_long_legs.php)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 04, 2014, 12:05:50 pm
It is true that sitcoms tend to get better over time (though I think several of Friends' best episodes were in Season 1), but P&R in particular had a seismic shift between Season 1 and Season 2 which allowed it to redefine itself as not just an Office knockoff.  I agree that Season 1 is still good and funny, but Season 2+ are why it's one of my favorite shows of all time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 04, 2014, 12:41:32 pm
Parks and Rec is amazing.  Except for Jerry.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on September 04, 2014, 12:43:33 pm
Parks and Rec is amazing.  Except for GaryJerryLarryTerry.

FTFY
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 04, 2014, 12:51:18 pm
Parks and Rec is amazing.  Except for Jerry.

And also Mark Brendanawicz amirite? That's what we're talking about here?

Although I'm glad I stuck with it. Even season 1 had its moments..."The Pit" had me in stitches
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 04, 2014, 12:58:59 pm
Anyone watch Rick and Morty?  If not, you're bad and you should feel bad.  And start watching it.  Funniest thing in quite a while.  (It's on Adult Swim.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 04, 2014, 01:37:28 pm
I stopped watching new stuff on Adult Swim. Too much of the new stuff seemed neat but ended up being disappointing.

But Sealab, Venture Brothers, and Home Movies were hard acts to follow. Robot Chicken is still quite good, though.

Then again, I realized that I'm not watching as much TV as I used to, so even the promise of a good Adult Swim show might not be enough for me.

I may put Parks & Rec on my queue. I've been hearing about it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 04, 2014, 01:39:10 pm
Venture Brothers is fantabulous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 04, 2014, 01:55:55 pm
It's definitely true that comedies get better over time. I can't think of a single comedy that was at its best in season 1. A lot of what make comedies work is that you get attached to the characters, which obviously takes some time, and of course comedy is a lot harder to manufacture than drama if that makes sense, a lot of it is based on a dynamic among the cast, which takes some time to develop.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 04, 2014, 02:45:44 pm
Parks and Rec is amazing.  Except for GaryJerryLarryTerry.

FTFY

I didn't do that because they are spoilers!

I wrote Larry before deciding to look up what the "original" name was.  I couldn't remember.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Dsell on September 04, 2014, 02:53:41 pm
Parks and Rec is amazing. The first season is pretty meh, but only compared to the rest of the seasons. I'd still pick it over something like Big Bang Theory.

And for the record, it's Gerry!

Edit: double checking wikipedia suggests that it's actually actually Garry. Well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 04, 2014, 03:39:38 pm
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/f8c6d5bcd4eed72eabd5bdb0055e2eb3/tumblr_n9njwufjTv1r5tut2o1_250.gif)(https://38.media.tumblr.com/815e9a8c2590cf2dc80d46cd8633ea31/tumblr_n9njwufjTv1r5tut2o2_250.gif)

Also, how about Guardians of the Galaxy?

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/aa62c901a537969002e5b9ee999d7b66/tumblr_nabj7kKWuY1qbzbu6o2_500.png)

(I haven't actually watched Guardians of the Galaxy.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 04, 2014, 06:33:42 pm
Actually, knowing that Andy Dwyer is actually the Star-Lord named Peter Quill made P&R all the more funny.  And one of the reasons that I started watching it in the first place.  I finished season 1, and will say that I enjoyed episodes 1-2 more than 3-6, but still enjoyed the season, however short it was.  If you all say that the rest of the seasons just keep getting better, then I will just have to keep watching.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 04, 2014, 08:35:02 pm
(I haven't actually watched Guardians of the Galaxy.)

You should.

That said, you shouldn't wait for the after-credit thing.  Totally not worth it this time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on September 04, 2014, 09:27:17 pm
It's definitely true that comedies get better over time. I can't think of a single comedy that was at its best in season 1. A lot of what make comedies work is that you get attached to the characters, which obviously takes some time, and of course comedy is a lot harder to manufacture than drama if that makes sense, a lot of it is based on a dynamic among the cast, which takes some time to develop.
Modern Family.

But yeah, I agree with the principle.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on September 04, 2014, 09:28:02 pm
(I haven't actually watched Guardians of the Galaxy.)

You should.

That said, you shouldn't wait for the after-credit thing.  Totally not worth it this time.
No way it was that good. Just no.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 04, 2014, 09:38:05 pm
I thought the first (there's twenty characters let's present them all in five minutes!) and last (gravity is cool, let's put all clichés that involve it one after the other) 20% were pretty bad. But the middle was really funny, and a couple of well-done poignant moments here and there. I don't think I've laughed that much in a Marvel movie before.

And the post-credit scenes is just a cameo of an obscure character, I guess testing the waters to see if they can introduce it in a future film. Not worth it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on September 04, 2014, 10:36:15 pm
It's moronic... and yet it has indeed raised millions for ALS research.  Which is great news for ALS sufferers (if they live long enough to see treatment, which they likely won't), but not so great news for... other charities.

I view the ice-water gimmick as a good thing because it raises awareness. Well, really, it reminds people, because I think everyone knows of ALS, but sometimes it helps to remind people that it's still out there and could use more research. So these stupid stunts bring the disease to the foreground and raise money. Good on that!

Having said that, the stunt is really dumb because you're challenging someone to donate $100 (or whatever) or else pour ice water over your head. So when someone videos himself pouring water over his head, he is making a tacit admission that he would rather dump water on himself than donate $100 to ALS research. This is probably not true. I bet most of the people in the videos did donate something, though maybe not $100. But the statement is still there, so it's pretty dumb. The challenge really should be something like donating $100 and then proving it by videoing yourself with ice water on your head. Not that it proves much but again, awareness.

A friend whose research is in water treatment and desalinization posted something to FB earlier today, pointing out that one of the major causes of death in the world is lack of access to fresh water.  And here we are dumping someone's daily supply of water over our heads as part of a bet to escape giving as much to charity.

As someone with little to donate to charity in any given year, I can think of a lot better causes than ALS research.  Consider that about 30000 people in the US suffer from ALS.  That's about the same as the number of people just in my home city (about 10% of the population) who rely on food banks for part of their sustenance.  A $10 donation to my local food bank is going to impact more lives today than a $100 donation to ALS research... for which a useful treatment is years or decades away.

I don't know, maybe I'm more "aware" than other people, but I wasn't ignorant of ALS prior to this.  I don't see awareness of a specific disease as a great goal.
That water would never have gone to Africa anyway, way too expensive to ship water that distance, your friend should know this. Research that goes into ALS doesn't just help ALS. Discoveries found in the research can help with many other kinds of similar diseases and can help our understanding about how the brain works in general.

This video seems to cover most of the complaints people have about giving money to ALS research and the ice bucket challenge. It's long (27 minutes) but it's worth the watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDGu33F-mCY
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 04, 2014, 10:53:43 pm
ANyone get the XKCD "What If?" book?  I did and it's so awesome.  I haven't had a ton of time to read it, but there are things about the book itself that are awesome without having to read it yet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 04, 2014, 11:16:57 pm
ANyone get the XKCD "What If?" book?  I did and it's so awesome.  I haven't had a ton of time to read it, but there are things about the book itself that are awesome without having to read it yet.

Is there more than what's online?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 04, 2014, 11:35:05 pm
Yeah.  A lot of them are from the blog, but there are also ones that he wanted to go more in depth than he would for the blog and also a few really random/dumb/terrifying/weird questions he got and doesn't answer.  I think he may have expanded some of the ones from the blog, but I'm not sure since I've only read the first 2 or 3
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on September 04, 2014, 11:51:26 pm
ANyone get the XKCD "What If?" book?  I did and it's so awesome.  I haven't had a ton of time to read it, but there are things about the book itself that are awesome without having to read it yet.
Ordered. Thanks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 05, 2014, 12:34:02 am
ANyone get the XKCD "What If?" book?  I did and it's so awesome.  I haven't had a ton of time to read it, but there are things about the book itself that are awesome without having to read it yet.

I got it yesterday at dinner time and read the whole thing that night, even though I had a meeting that night.  It was amazing.

All of the ones on the blog, from what I saw, seemed to be the same.

My favorite new one was the neutron-star bullet.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 05, 2014, 03:47:46 am
Got it also, since I'm close enough to one of the book tours that I can (hopefully) get it signed.

I haven't read much of it, but the neutron-star bullet one is pretty good.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 05, 2014, 03:54:34 am
Actually, knowing that Andy Dwyer is actually the Star-Lord named Peter Quill made P&R all the more funny.  And one of the reasons that I started watching it in the first place.

For me it was the other way around.

I din't catch much of the first season. I think I got in somewhere during the second season. But now, I love the show. Someday I'll probably watch the first season and the episodes from the second one that I've missed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 05, 2014, 05:20:22 am
http://youtu.be/YoB8t0B4jx4
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 05, 2014, 09:37:37 am
Actually, knowing that Andy Dwyer is actually the Star-Lord named Peter Quill made P&R all the more funny.  And one of the reasons that I started watching it in the first place.

For me it was the other way around.

I din't catch much of the first season. I think I got in somewhere during the second season. But now, I love the show. Someday I'll probably watch the first season and the episodes from the second one that I've missed.

You know, it could be that the world of Parks and Rec is a parallel universe to the one in Guardians of the Galaxy where Peter Quill never got picked up by the Ravagers.  So really, Andy Dwyer is the Star-Lord, but he just doesn't know because he never realized his destiny because he never got abducted.  I think it works.  But I need to watch more P&R to really tell.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 05, 2014, 12:27:04 pm
Accurate graph is accurate

(http://i.imgur.com/d2lkpf8.jpg) (http://imgur.com/gallery/d2lkpf8)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 05, 2014, 12:31:22 pm
Uhhh.... Dr. Nick?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 05, 2014, 01:31:42 pm
Uhhh.... Dr. Nick?

Hi, everybody!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 05, 2014, 03:29:35 pm
Uhhh.... Dr. Nick?

Hi, everybody!

You're a mobster, not a doctor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on September 05, 2014, 04:00:57 pm
Speaking of doctors ....

I just passed my dissertation defense! Henceforth I will require you all to refer to me as Dr. Jonts.

And no, I won't take a look at that rash, but it's probably terminal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 05, 2014, 04:09:54 pm
It's psychosomatic.  You'll need a lobotomy.  I'll get a saw.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 05, 2014, 04:09:59 pm
Speaking of doctors ....

I just passed my dissertation defense! Henceforth I will require you all to refer to me as Dr. Jonts.

And no, I won't take a look at that rash, but it's probably terminal.

My foot hurts. Is it pneumonia?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:32 pm
Speaking of doctors ....

I just passed my dissertation defense! Henceforth I will require you all to refer to me as Dr. Jonts.

And no, I won't take a look at that rash, but it's probably terminal.

My foot hurts. Is it pneumonia?

It's a common side effect of forum trolling. I recommend cutting out sarcastic remarks for at least a week.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 05, 2014, 04:30:17 pm
Speaking of doctors ....

I just passed my dissertation defense! Henceforth I will require you all to refer to me as Dr. Jonts.

And no, I won't take a look at that rash, but it's probably terminal.

What field?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on September 05, 2014, 04:32:09 pm
Speaking of doctors ....

I just passed my dissertation defense! Henceforth I will require you all to refer to me as Dr. Jonts.

And no, I won't take a look at that rash, but it's probably terminal.

What field?

Dominionology, I think. Or at least, that's where I spent most of my research efforts in the past 5 years.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 05, 2014, 05:05:22 pm
Speaking of doctors ....

I just passed my dissertation defense! Henceforth I will require you all to refer to me as Dr. Jonts.

And no, I won't take a look at that rash, but it's probably terminal.

What field?

Dominionology, I think. Or at least, that's where I spent most of my research efforts in the past 5 years.

Makes sense.  You are henceforth Dr. Dominion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on September 05, 2014, 10:00:14 pm
It's psychosomatic.  You'll need a lobotomy.  I'll get a saw.

I like Calvin & Hobbes too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 06, 2014, 12:52:49 pm
So this is awesome:

http://www.watchingtheleftovers.com/blog/2014/7/4/abcs-of-the-sudden-departure

I really really like the art.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 06, 2014, 01:35:11 pm
What's up with October 14?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 06, 2014, 01:38:55 pm
What's up with October 14?

I have no clue, but if you want a countown, here you go (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20141014T00&p0=%3A&fg1=000&msg=Supernatural+Season+10&csz=1&swk=1)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 06, 2014, 01:42:37 pm
Ha.  It relates to the show The Leftovers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2699128/?ref_=nv_sr_1).  October 14 was the day of The Departure. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 06, 2014, 02:42:14 pm
Ha.  It relates to the show The Leftovers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2699128/?ref_=nv_sr_1).  October 14 was the day of The Departure.

Oh whew. I just thought I was totally unaware of some important historical event
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on September 06, 2014, 02:57:27 pm
Ha.  It relates to the show The Leftovers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2699128/?ref_=nv_sr_1).  October 14 was the day of The Departure.

Oh whew. I just thought I was totally unaware of some important historical event

You mean you don't remember that time millions of people suddenly vanished?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 06, 2014, 08:26:04 pm
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 06, 2014, 08:38:07 pm
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.

Hmmm... This makes me less trustful of the blacklist top x% most blacklisted people. I assumed it would just catch the slow-players and people who curse at you for winning.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 06, 2014, 08:40:54 pm
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.

Hmmm... This makes me less trustful of the blacklist top x% most blacklisted people. I assumed it would just catch the slow-players and people who curse at you for winning.

Yeah, I never felt the "most blacklisted" list made for a good idea in the first place.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 06, 2014, 09:50:01 pm
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.

You just maybe talk to AI about it instead of posting it in the random stuff thread...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 06, 2014, 10:03:04 pm
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.

You just maybe talk to AI about it instead of posting it in the random stuff thread...

Except it's not necessarily a bug. I would post this in the salvager discussion thread instead though
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 06, 2014, 10:03:38 pm
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.

You just maybe talk to AI about it instead of posting it in the random stuff thread...

Except it's not necessarily a bug. I would post this in the salvager discussion thread instead though

Well yeah, that's more what I meant.  I wasn't very clear/didn't quite say the right thing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 06, 2014, 10:47:23 pm
Well, after playing Pathfinder today, I am reminded why Experience Points in RPGs is such a dumb concept. Somehow, bringing more people along means that you learn less.

And when an adventure path assumes that you'll be X level at a certain point, it's hard to be at X level if you have more than four players.

I'm a huge fan of the GM telling you when you level. That way it's appropriate for the story. I like how 13th Age handles levels (though levels are also a horrible way to track an RPG, but it'll do).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 06, 2014, 10:50:24 pm
Well, after playing Pathfinder today, I am reminded why Experience Points in RPGs is such a dumb concept. Somehow, bringing more people along means that you learn less.

And when an adventure path assumes that you'll be X level at a certain point, it's hard to be at X level if you have more than four players.

I'm a huge fan of the GM telling you when you level. That way it's appropriate for the story. I like how 13th Age handles levels (though levels are also a horrible way to track an RPG, but it'll do).

I've never seen any game where the more party members you have, the less experience each party member gets.  I've always seen it say you get x experience points and each party member gets x experience.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 06, 2014, 10:54:16 pm
Well, after playing Pathfinder today, I am reminded why Experience Points in RPGs is such a dumb concept. Somehow, bringing more people along means that you learn less.

And when an adventure path assumes that you'll be X level at a certain point, it's hard to be at X level if you have more than four players.

I'm a huge fan of the GM telling you when you level. That way it's appropriate for the story. I like how 13th Age handles levels (though levels are also a horrible way to track an RPG, but it'll do).

I've never seen any game where the more party members you have, the less experience each party member gets.  I've always seen it say you get x experience points and each party member gets x experience.

D&D 3E and on up have been about, "You get X XP, so each party member receives X/N XP." This is also popular in video games where the larger your party, the smaller the individual awards.

But it's not as bad as the original Wasteland (and probably original Bard's Tale, though I don't remember that very well) where you get XP based on how much damage you did to the baddie, thus making it hard to level support characters, like healers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 06, 2014, 11:38:01 pm
You have a combo problem:  If you have more than 4 players, the GM is supposed to scale up the encounters so they're worth more XP.  They'll also be harder, but hey, you have six adventurers, what could go wrong, right?

That way, when you get to the end of the adventure path, you're where you're supposed to be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 06, 2014, 11:58:05 pm
I've never seen any game where the more party members you have, the less experience each party member gets.  I've always seen it say you get x experience points and each party member gets x experience.

I assume you're talking about video games. Most games just pre-divide it for you, then tell you how much each character gets. Test it right now. Turn on an RPG where the number of characters in your party varies over the course of the game (e.g. Final Fantasy IV). Fight an encounter and note how much XP you got. Then gain or lose a party member and fight the same encounter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 07, 2014, 12:01:56 am
You have a combo problem:  If you have more than 4 players, the GM is supposed to scale up the encounters so they're worth more XP.  They'll also be harder, but hey, you have six adventurers, what could go wrong, right?

That way, when you get to the end of the adventure path, you're where you're supposed to be.

In theory, this should balance itself out without that change. Each character gets less XP and so your party is slightly behind in levels. But that should be balanced by the fact that there are more of you. Again, this is the theory. Does not always work in practice and it certainly breaks down as the number of PCs gets ridiculous (like 10).

In general, you shouldn't have to make changes for a party of 5. With a party of 6, I could see adjustments being necessary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 07, 2014, 12:08:36 am
Well, after playing Pathfinder today, I am reminded why Experience Points in RPGs is such a dumb concept. Somehow, bringing more people along means that you learn less.

And when an adventure path assumes that you'll be X level at a certain point, it's hard to be at X level if you have more than four players.

I'm a huge fan of the GM telling you when you level. That way it's appropriate for the story. I like how 13th Age handles levels (though levels are also a horrible way to track an RPG, but it'll do).

There is some thematic justification for it.  Experience points are an abstract measurement of a player becoming more skilled through practice.  If you have lots of people helping to do the same task, you get less practice over all.  Suppose the task is "chopping wood" and there is a set amount of wood to chop.  If you are going it alone, you chop a lot of wood and reap a lot of experience.  If you have somebody helping you chop the wood, you both chop half the amount, get half the practice and receive half the XP.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 07, 2014, 12:09:51 am
I've never seen any game where the more party members you have, the less experience each party member gets.  I've always seen it say you get x experience points and each party member gets x experience.

I assume you're talking about video games. Most games just pre-divide it for you, then tell you how much each character gets. Test it right now. Turn on an RPG where the number of characters in your party varies over the course of the game (e.g. Final Fantasy IV). Fight an encounter and note how much XP you got. Then gain or lose a party member and fight the same encounter.

I don't have any RPGs at a good place to check, but I did just look in the source code for RPG Maker and it does what I said, not what you said.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 07, 2014, 12:11:11 am
For video game RPGs, I've seen the following systems

1. Everyone gets the same amount of EXP
2. You have an active party of everyone you can bring, and a non-active party of everybody else. Your active party gets the same amount of EXP, no one else gets any.
3. The active party gets the same amount of EXP, the non-active party gets a smaller fraction (like 80%)

In all the above, dead people get no exp, and having dead people doesn't give anyone else more EXP, even though there's fewer people to take it.

In MMORPGs, it's often split based on character level within the party, with higher levels getting more to mitigate people power-leveling lower level players. I think most MMORPGs multiply the EXP based on the number of people in the party before splitting it - that way, although you get less exp per monster, when you add up the contributions from everybody it works out to more exp for everyone.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 07, 2014, 12:30:58 am
In games like Shining Force (I and II), characters get experience per action.  And you get more if you kill an enemy, as long as they're within level range (up to a max).  Support characters keep up because they get to use their abilities often enough.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 07, 2014, 12:55:47 am
You have a combo problem:  If you have more than 4 players, the GM is supposed to scale up the encounters so they're worth more XP.  They'll also be harder, but hey, you have six adventurers, what could go wrong, right?

That way, when you get to the end of the adventure path, you're where you're supposed to be.

In games like D&D and its clones, there can be a significant change in strength. A group of four level 11s will pretty much outshine a group of five 10s. The 11s will have an additional iterative attack for martial characters and 6th-level spells for spellcasters. That fifth character at 10th won't be as impressive.

There is some thematic justification for it.  Experience points are an abstract measurement of a player becoming more skilled through practice.  If you have lots of people helping to do the same task, you get less practice over all.  Suppose the task is "chopping wood" and there is a set amount of wood to chop.  If you are going it alone, you chop a lot of wood and reap a lot of experience.  If you have somebody helping you chop the wood, you both chop half the amount, get half the practice and receive half the XP.

I see what you're getting at, but it quantifies experience and makes it clunky. Doing half the work of chopping wood would not make you half as experienced. You learn a lot from watching the others.

But then again I've always scowled at the notion of merit-based XP. I believe it was "Over the Edge" that suggested giving more XP when the characters fail because they learned more. It's not something I'd do all the time, but there's better justification of that.

The most fun I had in a D&D game was where the GM took the suggestion to level the party when it made good story sense. There was no worrying about tracking XP. And there wasn't any of that nonsense of, "I know we beat the main villain, but we should explore every nook and cranny so we can get more XP."
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 07, 2014, 01:14:41 am
And there wasn't any of that nonsense of, "I know we beat the main villain, but we should explore every nook and cranny so we can get more XP."

Rather, you do it to find every possible bit of loot. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 07, 2014, 01:36:04 am
For TTRPGs, I have mostly just played RuneQuest. The "level-upping" in RQ works so that you have a % of success for each skill, and you try to roll below the number with 1d100, and if you succeed, you check a box and once per in-game week, all %s with their boxes checked increase and the checks are erased. For skills that are already over 50%, you need a special or a critical success. In my playgroup, the GM usually makes it smoother so that a 40% skill doesn't necessarily get checked if you roll 40, and a 60% skill might still get checked if you roll, say, 17. It isn't super realistic, but it makes the characters better over time and keeps the focus on the story rather than grinding for XP.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 07, 2014, 02:17:56 am
You have a combo problem:  If you have more than 4 players, the GM is supposed to scale up the encounters so they're worth more XP.  They'll also be harder, but hey, you have six adventurers, what could go wrong, right?

That way, when you get to the end of the adventure path, you're where you're supposed to be.

In games like D&D and its clones, there can be a significant change in strength. A group of four level 11s will pretty much outshine a group of five 10s. The 11s will have an additional iterative attack for martial characters and 6th-level spells for spellcasters. That fifth character at 10th won't be as impressive.

Exactly.  That's why the DM has to level up the encounters.

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The most fun I had in a D&D game was where the GM took the suggestion to level the party when it made good story sense. There was no worrying about tracking XP. And there wasn't any of that nonsense of, "I know we beat the main villain, but we should explore every nook and cranny so we can get more XP."

I agree.  This is what I did toward the end of the campaign I ran many years ago under 3/3.5.  "You guys just defeated the guy you thought was the big bad, but he turned out to be possessed by the goddess of Destruction, and she just used him to destroy herself.  Oh, that second, red sun you guys have dealt with the whole campaign?  Yeah, that's her embodiment, and she just went all supernova.  Sooooo.  Yeeeeah, you guys should probably level before trying to take care of that."

(It was a weird campaign.  Homebrew world, planets and stars as literal embodiments of the gods, ridiculously powerful magical artifacts that end up inherited by a feisty teenage girl, time travel.  You know, all the usual stuff.)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on September 07, 2014, 02:38:15 am
So that last bundle of posts just felt like an airshow buzzing around my head. Nothing ever landed though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 07, 2014, 07:28:04 am
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.

You just maybe talk to AI about it instead of posting it in the random stuff thread...

what for, if i'm in the top 10%, then I'm in the top 10%. the option is there to not play with people that are in the top 10%, so it does what it's for. there is nothing broken with it, there is nothing to fix.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 07, 2014, 09:22:03 am
Am I the only one who plays TTRPGS wihtout levels?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 07, 2014, 09:31:42 am
Am I the only one who plays TTRPGS wihtout levels?
I guess you could say that the BRP based games don't have levels, though they still have the concept there, it's just more direct.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 07, 2014, 09:38:03 am
Well, you get better at stuff you're doing. It feels more thematic to me. Not where you whack a goblin and learn how to swim or produce a fireball.

I mean, most games have some sort of experience points. Games that haven't tend to feel flat and you hardly ever want to play more than a couple of sessions.

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on September 07, 2014, 10:28:30 am
I've played a number of FATE games where we never leveled. Probably some of the most fun I've had with tabletop. If you've never played FATE i strongly recommend it. You could play with experience and leveling, but overall the system feels more narrative focused and the gameplay is a it more flexible and inventive.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 07, 2014, 10:49:49 am
Am I the only one who plays TTRPGS wihtout levels?

There are plenty of games without levels. The ones off the top of my head that I've played and/or ran included GURPS, Torg, Call of Cthulhu, Over the Edge, Unknown Armies, and Mutants and Masterminds (though there are levels, but they do not have inherent bonuses in them like D&D).

Actually, Call of Cthulhu has one of the more interesting experience systems. No XP. Did you use that skill? Roll percent dice. If you get over that skill, then you learned something and can increase it. Albeit, that system wouldn't hold the attention of the average gamer, but nobody expects CoC characters to survive for long anyway.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 07, 2014, 09:13:54 pm
experiments with e have shown that I'm one of the 10% most blacklisted people. for some reason. which is bad. but it explaines some kicks from people who i know don't dislike me. at least that's something.

You just maybe talk to AI about it instead of posting it in the random stuff thread...

what for, if i'm in the top 10%, then I'm in the top 10%. the option is there to not play with people that are in the top 10%, so it does what it's for. there is nothing broken with it, there is nothing to fix.

It might call into question the statement in the help that top 20% is a "sane" setting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 07, 2014, 09:35:22 pm
well e had it on top 80%. but you got a point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 07, 2014, 10:12:34 pm
Today was Day 1 of Week 3 of the 100 push-up challenge (http://hundredpushups.com/).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 07, 2014, 10:13:51 pm
I should note I completed the challenge about 4 years ago and I work in the 3rd column but I am not at all strong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 08, 2014, 08:14:53 am
Today was Day 1 of Week 3 of the 100 push-up challenge (http://hundredpushups.com/).

I'm on week two of a couch to 10m.  Up to 3 m yesterday!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on September 08, 2014, 11:26:26 am
I did 5 push ups before my ice cream last night. :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 08, 2014, 11:45:54 am
My ice cream is a Push Up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 08, 2014, 11:54:29 am
I did 5 push ups before my ice cream last night. :)
Okay, then I'm going to do 5 push ups before my next ice cream as well!

I don't like ice cream and I never have any.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 08, 2014, 12:05:10 pm
I did a 14-18-14-14 string last night, then did maybe 10ish for the final "until you tire" set.  Though I needed some extra time between the third and fourth set.  I like this idea, but I always find it really hard to remember to do a pushup routine every day.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 08, 2014, 03:22:25 pm
I did a 14-18-14-14 string last night, then did maybe 10ish for the final "until you tire" set.  Though I needed some extra time between the third and fourth set.  I like this idea, but I always find it really hard to remember to do a pushup routine every day.

It's every other day and it helps to have a buddy where one of you can remind the other. For reference, I maxed at 30 after the 14-18-14-14 string. This would have been impossible even a week ago.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 08, 2014, 03:23:57 pm
I did a 14-18-14-14 string last night, then did maybe 10ish for the final "until you tire" set.  Though I needed some extra time between the third and fourth set.  I like this idea, but I always find it really hard to remember to do a pushup routine every day.

It's every other day and it helps to have a buddy where one of you can remind the other. For reference, I maxed at 30 after the 14-18-14-14 string. This would have been impossible even a week ago.

I need to build a robot that can count pushups.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 08, 2014, 04:35:10 pm
Story time!

Last night I was playing in Baltimore and some girl told me I looked like Michael Phelps which I get a lot in Baltimore. She proceeded to ask if she could take a picture with me to which I said no. She asked why and I answered "because fuck no."

Kingzog would you like to hear that again?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 08, 2014, 05:34:03 pm
Story time!

Last night I was playing in Baltimore and some girl told me I looked like Michael Phelps which I get a lot in Baltimore. She proceeded to ask if she could take a picture with me to which I said no. She asked why and I answered "because fuck no."

Kingzog would you like to hear that again?

No it's all good. This one is genuinely very funny. "Because fuck no" is a perfect response for someone trying to force a picture on you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 08, 2014, 05:43:49 pm
Story time!

Last night I was playing in Baltimore and some girl told me I looked like Michael Phelps which I get a lot in Baltimore. She proceeded to ask if she could take a picture with me to which I said no. She asked why and I answered "because fuck no."

Kingzog would you like to hear that again?

No it's all good. This one is genuinely very funny. "Because fuck no" is a perfect response for someone trying to force a picture on you.

Pretty sure it's  a perfect response for just about anything. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 08, 2014, 05:45:53 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on September 08, 2014, 06:09:55 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Where do you live?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 08, 2014, 06:24:37 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Autumn doesn't start for another two weeks!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 08, 2014, 06:30:58 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Autumn doesn't start for another two weeks!

For him, autumn lasted -2 weeks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 08, 2014, 06:35:27 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Where do you live?

Alberta, Canada.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 08, 2014, 06:40:45 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Where do you live?

Alberta, Canada.

Still a nice 20 here in quebec.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 08, 2014, 06:42:46 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Where do you live?

Alberta, Canada.

One Minnesotan says to another, "So, do you have any plans for the Spring?"

The other replies, "We're planning on a family picnic if it falls on a weekend!"

Goddamn temperate climate.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Hydrad on September 08, 2014, 08:45:47 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Where do you live?

Alberta, Canada.

It's not even stopping :( I can't see anything green anymore
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 08, 2014, 09:17:20 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Where do you live?

Alberta, Canada.

It's not even stopping :( I can't see anything green anymore

I'm jealous. If you had mountains you could ski. Downhill, not that silly cross country stuff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 08, 2014, 09:26:32 pm
I usually only get snow one day out of the year on average...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 08, 2014, 09:37:04 pm
It snowed this morning.

Autumn lasted approximately one week.

Where do you live?

Alberta, Canada.

It's not even stopping :( I can't see anything green anymore

Hmm, where I am, it's still warm enough (hovering between -4 and +1 C) that the snow is melting when it hits the ground.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Hydrad on September 08, 2014, 09:52:20 pm
I usually only get snow one day out of the year on average...

I hate winter... so jealous. I should not be in canada lol
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 08, 2014, 10:41:21 pm
So this is awesome:

http://www.watchingtheleftovers.com/blog/2014/7/4/abcs-of-the-sudden-departure

I really really like the art.

Just realized a friend of mine is an assistant director for The Leftovers. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on September 08, 2014, 11:40:55 pm
Debated whether this belonged in let's take things completely out of context or not, but that's the thing, the context doesn't save it.

In my History class today before the teacher shows up. Some guy is playing Hearthstone on his laptop and talking to this girl (they talk all the time, and no one else in the class does, so it's slightly odd).

Guy: "Man, I am getting my butt kicked."
Girl: --mild agreement--
Guy: "That's the thing about card games though, they're all luck anyway."


I don't even know what to say to that. . .
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 08, 2014, 11:57:13 pm
Debated whether this belonged in let's take things completely out of context or not, but that's the thing, the context doesn't save it.

In my History class today before the teacher shows up. Some guy is playing Hearthstone on his laptop and talking to this girl (they talk all the time, and no one else in the class does, so it's slightly odd).

Guy: "Man, I am getting my butt kicked."
Girl: --mild agreement--
Guy: "That's the thing about card games though, they're all luck anyway."


I don't even know what to say to that. . .

In the immortal words of AdamH(?), you make your own shuffle luck.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 09, 2014, 01:31:30 am
Finished all that's currently posted for Ra by qntm. It's all but what is going to be the last chapter.

Overall...I don't know how I feel about it. There's a transition in tone between the beginning of the story and the end of it. I will say that it's the "smartest" thing I've ever read - it's not something you can casually browse through, you have to think about it. Plus, there are casual references to all sorts of sciences and science fiction. Quines, Kardashev scales, heavy detail on the inner workings of the Space Shuttle...

It took a very long time for me to get into it. The entire work is framed around, "how does this world work?" Once you get into it though, it's very good. Would recommend.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 09, 2014, 08:29:38 am
Smart reading, try House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski. Or anything by Danielewski.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 09, 2014, 09:08:17 am
So this is awesome:

http://www.watchingtheleftovers.com/blog/2014/7/4/abcs-of-the-sudden-departure

I really really like the art.

Just realized a friend of mine is an assistant director for The Leftovers. Pretty cool.

I just looked the show up, and it says the plot is that 2% of the world population just mysteriously vanished. But like, that's 120 000 people, and if that's worldwide the effect of that would be minor, traumatising some people but leaving large cities, and probably most towns totally unaffected. I'm starting to doubt the premise before I've even seen the show.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 09, 2014, 09:30:31 am
7billion * 0.02 = 140million >> 120,000
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 09, 2014, 09:50:11 am
7billion * 0.02 = 140million >> 120,000

Right, I missed a bunch of zeros, silly me. And I also used 6billion, not 7.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 09, 2014, 10:26:34 am
So this is awesome:

http://www.watchingtheleftovers.com/blog/2014/7/4/abcs-of-the-sudden-departure

I really really like the art.

Just realized a friend of mine is an assistant director for The Leftovers. Pretty cool.

I just looked the show up, and it says the plot is that 2% of the world population just mysteriously vanished. But like, that's 120 000 people, and if that's worldwide the effect of that would be minor, traumatising some people but leaving large cities, and probably most towns totally unaffected. I'm starting to doubt the premise before I've even seen the show.

The point of the disaster is not how many people departed, it's about what it means about why they did, why the people who stayed didn't, and the spiritual/metaphysical implications on that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 09, 2014, 10:35:57 am
So this is awesome:

http://www.watchingtheleftovers.com/blog/2014/7/4/abcs-of-the-sudden-departure

I really really like the art.

Just realized a friend of mine is an assistant director for The Leftovers. Pretty cool.

I just looked the show up, and it says the plot is that 2% of the world population just mysteriously vanished. But like, that's 120 000 people, and if that's worldwide the effect of that would be minor, traumatising some people but leaving large cities, and probably most towns totally unaffected. I'm starting to doubt the premise before I've even seen the show.

The point of the disaster is not how many people departed, it's about what it means about why they did, why the people who stayed didn't, and the spiritual/metaphysical implications on that.

I understand the point, but say only 5 people disappeared. I wouldn't be able to suspend my disbelief enough to accept everyone getting worked up about 5 people gone missing. So the number actually does matter, since it needs to be big enough to have some sort of global effect and not just a local disaster.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 09, 2014, 11:24:53 am
So this is awesome:

http://www.watchingtheleftovers.com/blog/2014/7/4/abcs-of-the-sudden-departure

I really really like the art.

Just realized a friend of mine is an assistant director for The Leftovers. Pretty cool.

I just looked the show up, and it says the plot is that 2% of the world population just mysteriously vanished. But like, that's 120 000 people, and if that's worldwide the effect of that would be minor, traumatising some people but leaving large cities, and probably most towns totally unaffected. I'm starting to doubt the premise before I've even seen the show.

The point of the disaster is not how many people departed, it's about what it means about why they did, why the people who stayed didn't, and the spiritual/metaphysical implications on that.

I understand the point, but say only 5 people disappeared. I wouldn't be able to suspend my disbelief enough to accept everyone getting worked up about 5 people gone missing. So the number actually does matter, since it needs to be big enough to have some sort of global effect and not just a local disaster.

I imagine that if 5 people vanished before my very eyes I might be about as disconcerted if 150 million people went poof without me actually seeing it take place. But I do get your point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 09, 2014, 11:29:36 am
So this is awesome:

http://www.watchingtheleftovers.com/blog/2014/7/4/abcs-of-the-sudden-departure

I really really like the art.

Just realized a friend of mine is an assistant director for The Leftovers. Pretty cool.

I just looked the show up, and it says the plot is that 2% of the world population just mysteriously vanished. But like, that's 120 000 people, and if that's worldwide the effect of that would be minor, traumatising some people but leaving large cities, and probably most towns totally unaffected. I'm starting to doubt the premise before I've even seen the show.

The point of the disaster is not how many people departed, it's about what it means about why they did, why the people who stayed didn't, and the spiritual/metaphysical implications on that.

I understand the point, but say only 5 people disappeared. I wouldn't be able to suspend my disbelief enough to accept everyone getting worked up about 5 people gone missing. So the number actually does matter, since it needs to be big enough to have some sort of global effect and not just a local disaster.

I imagine that if 5 people vanished before my very eyes I might be about as disconcerted if 150 million people went poof without me actually seeing it take place. But I do get your point.

Of course you would be disconcerted, but worldwide no one would notice. Also people would just think you're crazy. Those guys who think aliens abducted them are pretty sure it happened too.

This isn't to bash the show, I got the numbers wrong that's all. Just saying that the fact that it's 140million people instead of just 10 matters a lot.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 09, 2014, 11:49:17 am
The story takes place in a town of about 80,000 people.  That's, on average, 1600 people that disappeared.  It's too large to not go universally noticed by everyone. 

Imagine, some of those 1600 people were driving vehicles.  Some where operating dangerous machinery.  One could have been a bus driver.  One could have been flying a plane.  There would be accidents leading to deaths and injuries.

In our network of society, it doesn't take much disruption to have an effect on a large number of people.  If some guy killed himself today in his own home, that would effect his immediate family deeply (could be on the order of a dozen if he has a wife and children and parents and siblings), plus extended family somewhat, plus friends, plus coworkers.  If he did it in public, the people witnessing would also be effected. 

If thousands of people in a community died, that would be an incredible tragedy that effects the entire community.  People would eventually cope, though. If it was, say, a terrible accident, people know that these terrible things happen and you get through them.  Some might turn to religion when they weren't before.

If thousands of people simultaneously and instantaneously disappeared, people would not know what to do.  Imagine you're a parent.  People can't cope because they can't explain what happened.  Nothing in our experience can adequately explain what was witnessed.  People would be lost, hurt, searching for answers. 

2% is a pretty huge number when you start to think of all the people that any individual effects.  Something like 10% would be catastrophic.  It's also not, of course, equally distributed in every possible grouping of individuals you can come up with.  Some people would know no one that departed, and some would know many.  Some individuals could lose their entire family.  Some cities may lose 5-10%, while some lose almost none. But even those that didn't directly know anyone are still affected.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 09, 2014, 12:00:18 pm
I never watched the show, but I would imagine that 2% of the population disappearing would be significant. There would be a huge freak-out factor because people generally don't just vanish. There is general concern when a townsperson goes missing, but you just assume that he ran away or got knocked into a ditch by a train or was kidnapped--bad things but mundane enough to accept. When 1 out of every 50 have gone missing, and you hear on the news that this has happened worldwide, people are going to freak the fuck out.

I canceled HBO before the show started (I was in it for GoT anyway), but it sounds like an interesting premise. It kind of reminds me of the premise of Flash Forward, where everyone blacks out at the same time for about 2 minutes. It's freaky, and people should be questioning what the hell it all means. Too bad the show didn't deliver, but the premise was interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 09, 2014, 12:09:35 pm
The point of the disaster is not how many people departed, it's about what it means about why they did, why the people who stayed didn't, and the spiritual/metaphysical implications on that.

I was commenting on this, how the number does matter as 5 people would cause a global problem, but yes, 2% would be serious.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 09, 2014, 12:11:59 pm
The point of the disaster is not how many people departed, it's about what it means about why they did, why the people who stayed didn't, and the spiritual/metaphysical implications on that.

I was commenting on this, how the number does matter as 5 people would cause a global problem, but yes, 2% would be serious.

Right, it has to be enough so that everyone knows it was a real thing that happened, with no doubt.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 09, 2014, 01:00:45 pm
I'm curious about how religious it gets. The premise takes obvious inspiration from the Christian concept of Rapture, particularly the version seen in the Left Behind series.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on September 09, 2014, 01:03:43 pm
I'm curious about how religious it gets. The premise takes obvious inspiration from the Christian concept of Rapture, particularly the version seen in the Left Behind series.

No spoilers, I don't think - I listened to an interview with the author/also showrunner I think? and it sounds like the show gets fairly religious but that's because that's how many/most people respond to it, not insomuch that the show itself gets religious in a meta way (if that poorly explained distinction makes sense).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 09, 2014, 01:09:35 pm
I'm curious about how religious it gets. The premise takes obvious inspiration from the Christian concept of Rapture, particularly the version seen in the Left Behind series.

No spoilers, I don't think - I listened to an interview with the author/also showrunner I think? and it sounds like the show gets fairly religious but that's because that's how many/most people respond to it, not insomuch that the show itself gets religious in a meta way (if that poorly explained distinction makes sense).

Yeah, OK. The true in-show explanation may not be religious in nature, but many characters will interpret the event as something spiritual.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 09, 2014, 01:36:31 pm
It gets very religious in the sense that there is a cult (although it's not a religious cult really) that is one of the most important parts of the show, there's also a guru which a cult around him in one of the storylines, and one of the secondary characters is a christian (not sure which denomination) priest. So religion gets discussed a fair amount, and the opening credits sequence references the Sistine Chapel, so yeah.

I doubt there will ever be an explanation for the event itself. I don't believe the book explains it, and the showrunner is not exactly known for his prowess at explaining big mysteries. Which is good, I'd rather have it be about the characters in the show and how they deal with it (which is very much what season 1 was about).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 09, 2014, 02:10:31 pm
...Some individuals could lose their entire family.  Some cities may lose 5-10%, while some lose almost none. But even those that didn't directly know anyone are still affected.

Just posting to say, this is extremely unlikely. If the global disappearance percentage is exactly 2% Almost all "cities" (large population areas) will lose very close to 2%. For example the chance a given city of 1,000,000 people will lose at least 2.05% of it's population is about one in 5,300. The chance it loses at least 2.1% of it's population is somewhere in the order of magnitude of one in a trillion. And the bigger a city is the more likely it is to be closer to 2%. Similar numbers occur if you want to look at a percentage decrease.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 09, 2014, 02:14:05 pm
Nowhere is it implied that the vanishings are perfectly random though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 09, 2014, 02:40:18 pm
Nowhere is it implied that the vanishings are perfectly random though.

I don't even know what exactly is being talked about, and I stated my assumption - a random 2% exactly.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 09, 2014, 03:01:48 pm
Tables trying to be funny again...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 09, 2014, 03:07:42 pm
http://what-if.xkcd.com/27/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 09, 2014, 03:51:44 pm
Tables trying to be funny again...

I... when?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 09, 2014, 03:56:41 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1307068/

Comedic but somewhat realistic look at what would happen when we all know when we are all going to die.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 09, 2014, 03:56:54 pm
http://badassdigest.com/2012/06/07/the-true-story-behind-safety-not-guaranteeds-time-travel-ad/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 09, 2014, 04:59:47 pm
I really think by going from the relative 2 percent to an absolute number you're making this a lot more complicated than it is. One in 50 people disappears. Even you yourself wouldn't notice their disappearance, it's really likely you know someone who noticed a disappearance, which he will tell you about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 09, 2014, 05:13:28 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1307068/

Comedic but somewhat realistic look at what would happen when we all know when we are all going to die.
http://machineofdeath.net/

I don't know if anyone has heard or read this, but basically it's a collection of short stories all written around the same idea: There is a machine that tells you how you die.  It's cool to see how different people interpret what would happen.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 09, 2014, 06:17:05 pm
...Some individuals could lose their entire family.  Some cities may lose 5-10%, while some lose almost none. But even those that didn't directly know anyone are still affected.

Just posting to say, this is extremely unlikely. If the global disappearance percentage is exactly 2% Almost all "cities" (large population areas) will lose very close to 2%. For example the chance a given city of 1,000,000 people will lose at least 2.05% of it's population is about one in 5,300. The chance it loses at least 2.1% of it's population is somewhere in the order of magnitude of one in a trillion. And the bigger a city is the more likely it is to be closer to 2%. Similar numbers occur if you want to look at a percentage decrease.

You're flipping causality.  It isn't "let's give every person a 2% chance of disappearing and see who does."  It's "a bunch of people disappeared.  How many?  Oh, about 2% of the population."  We have no idea what, if any, force chose the disappearance.  The number of just ~2%.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 09, 2014, 06:18:51 pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1307068/

Comedic but somewhat realistic look at what would happen when we all know when we are all going to die.
http://machineofdeath.net/

I don't know if anyone has heard or read this, but basically it's a collection of short stories all written around the same idea: There is a machine that tells you how you die.  It's cool to see how different people interpret what would happen.

I read the first book, the pdf is free to download on the site. I feel some of the stories were just okay, but there were a couple I really liked. ALMOND is probably my favorite, MISCARRIAGE is close, HIV INFECTION FROM THE MACHINE OF DEATH NEEDLE is also pretty good.

I've been meaning to read the 2nd compilation, but haven't gotten the motivation to start it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 09, 2014, 06:19:50 pm
I really think by going from the relative 2 percent to an absolute number you're making this a lot more complicated than it is. One in 50 people disappears. Even you yourself wouldn't notice their disappearance, it's really likely you know someone who noticed a disappearance, which he will tell you about.

Huh?  Not at all.. just take a high school.  Every other room will have one student---maybe the teacher!---that suddenly disappears.  Most likely someone could see them at the time.  Then they simply disappear.  I don't know how you think that wouldn't cause a panic.  Even if it didn't cause a huge issue at the moment (trust me, it would), what about when their parents to go pick them up or expect them home that night?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: qmech on September 09, 2014, 06:45:43 pm
I really think by going from the relative 2 percent to an absolute number you're making this a lot more complicated than it is. One in 50 people disappears. Even you yourself wouldn't notice their disappearance, it's really likely you know someone who noticed a disappearance, which he will tell you about.

Huh?  Not at all.. just take a high school.  Every other room will have one student---maybe the teacher!---that suddenly disappears.  Most likely someone could see them at the time.  Then they simply disappear.  I don't know how you think that wouldn't cause a panic.  Even if it didn't cause a huge issue at the moment (trust me, it would), what about when their parents to go pick them up or expect them home that night?

I'm with Tables in not having a clue what you're all talking about, but I can say that you two are in violent agreement: if it helps to see why, add the missing "if" in "Even if you yourself wouldn't notice...".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 09, 2014, 06:51:21 pm
The truth of the matter is that the squid overlords are already removing 2% of our population every year, and you never notice.

Even though you now know this, you still cannot recall any of those disappearances.

Now if you'll excuse me, there's a knock at my door. I almost didn't hear it over the sounds of black helicopters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Dsell on September 09, 2014, 06:52:07 pm
The truth of the matter is that the squid overlords are already removing 2% of our population every year, and you never notice.

Even though you now know this, you still cannot recall any of those disappearances.

Now if you'll excuse me, there's a knock at my door. I almost didn't hear it over the sounds of black helicopters.

Welcome...to Nightvale.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 09, 2014, 06:52:48 pm
The truth of the matter is that the squid overlords are already removing 2% of our population every year, and you never notice.

Even though you now know this, you still cannot recall any of those disappearances.

Now if you'll excuse me, there's a knock at my door. I almost didn't hear it over the sounds of black helicopters.

This reminds me of Pact (http://pactwebserial.wordpress.com/)...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 09, 2014, 06:57:32 pm
I really think by going from the relative 2 percent to an absolute number you're making this a lot more complicated than it is. One in 50 people disappears. Even you yourself wouldn't notice their disappearance, it's really likely you know someone who noticed a disappearance, which he will tell you about.

Huh?  Not at all.. just take a high school.  Every other room will have one student---maybe the teacher!---that suddenly disappears.  Most likely someone could see them at the time.  Then they simply disappear.  I don't know how you think that wouldn't cause a panic.  Even if it didn't cause a huge issue at the moment (trust me, it would), what about when their parents to go pick them up or expect them home that night?

I'm with Tables in not having a clue what you're all talking about, but I can say that you two are in violent agreement: if it helps to see why, add the missing "if" in "Even if you yourself wouldn't notice...".

Thanks for clarifying what I meant, of course you're right.

I think the high school thing is kind of a bad example, since that's a place with rather high social interaction.
Also, I was operating under the assumption that the disappearances would happen without anyone seeing it happen.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 09, 2014, 06:58:56 pm
I really think by going from the relative 2 percent to an absolute number you're making this a lot more complicated than it is. One in 50 people disappears. Even you yourself wouldn't notice their disappearance, it's really likely you know someone who noticed a disappearance, which he will tell you about.

Huh?  Not at all.. just take a high school.  Every other room will have one student---maybe the teacher!---that suddenly disappears.  Most likely someone could see them at the time.  Then they simply disappear.  I don't know how you think that wouldn't cause a panic.  Even if it didn't cause a huge issue at the moment (trust me, it would), what about when their parents to go pick them up or expect them home that night?

I'm with Tables in not having a clue what you're all talking about, but I can say that you two are in violent agreement: if it helps to see why, add the missing "if" in "Even if you yourself wouldn't notice...".

Oh.. that makes more sense.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 10, 2014, 02:00:52 am
The truth of the matter is that the squid overlords are already removing 2% of our population every year, and you never notice.

Even though you now know this, you still cannot recall any of those disappearances.

Now if you'll excuse me, there's a knock at my door. I almost didn't hear it over the sounds of black helicopters.

This reminds me of Pact (http://pactwebserial.wordpress.com/)...

Hm, kind of...

It also reminds me of Background Pony (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19198/background-pony). I've only read the first chapter, and it already feels like I got hit with a ton of bricks...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 10, 2014, 03:08:37 am
Tables trying to be funny again...

I... when?

Most likely they just read my posts all like 'oh Tables is trying to be funny again.

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 10, 2014, 10:38:08 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 10, 2014, 11:26:27 am
^Song of the day thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 10, 2014, 12:25:43 pm
Tables trying to be funny again...

I... when?

Most likely they just read my posts all like 'oh Tables is trying to be funny again.


Oh, okay. That was a week ago. I figured you were talking about something more recent.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 10, 2014, 12:44:02 pm
Tables trying to be funny again...

I... when?

Most likely they just read my posts all like 'oh Tables is trying to be funny again.


Oh, okay. That was a week ago. I figured you were talking about something more recent.

Hahaha OMG stop my sides are hurting so much
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 11, 2014, 05:30:09 pm
That awkward and embarrassing moment when you read your friend's conversation with a pet medium.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/197883513712356/

Not going to call out which one, but it's public, and there are plenty of examples on this page.

It just seems so criminal to charge someone $11 to make him/her feel warm and fuzzy. I'm disgusted.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 11, 2014, 05:54:06 pm
somehow I can't believe that's real...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 11, 2014, 05:57:15 pm
It just seems so criminal to charge someone $11 to make him/her feel warm and fuzzy. I'm disgusted.
It would really suck to have your Colony swindled into a feeling of warmness and fuzziness.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Archetype on September 11, 2014, 05:59:09 pm
somehow I can't believe that's real...
There are so many pet versions of human things that I can't believe are real.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 11, 2014, 06:10:44 pm
I had a pet medium once, but I forgot to feed it. Afterwards I sought consolation from a pet medium medium.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 11, 2014, 06:13:07 pm
I guess I would eat pets medium, but eating cats and dogs is frowned upon here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 11, 2014, 06:14:47 pm
I had a pet medium once, but I forgot to feed it. Afterwards I sought consolation from a pet medium medium.

I had a pet medium once, but I forgot to feed it.  It became a pet small.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 11, 2014, 07:18:49 pm
somehow I can't believe that's real...
somehow I can't believe that's real...

I would hope it's not, but I do know one of the clients. I can't imagine the person faking all that for the sake of the medium.

Which means that the other discussions on there could possibly belong to other legitimate people. I wouldn't be survived if she hired out some shills or made fake accounts to give herself credibility, but I know at least one of them is real.

Grief can make us do foolish things. It just angers me to know that someone is making money off of the grief-stricken (especially since I know one of them).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on September 11, 2014, 07:23:07 pm
I had a pet medium once, but I forgot to feed it. Afterwards I sought consolation from a pet medium medium.

I had a pet medium once, but I forgot to feed it.  It became a pet small.

Then it escaped and became a small pet medium at large.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 11, 2014, 07:37:13 pm
I had a pet medium once, but I forgot to feed it. Afterwards I sought consolation from a pet medium medium.

I had a pet medium once, but I forgot to feed it.  It became a pet small.

Then it escaped and became a small pet medium at large.

We put up signs in coffee shops.  Starbucks made us change it to "short pet tall at grande."  Or is that "tall pet grande at venti"?  I've never been sure.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 11, 2014, 08:01:24 pm
somehow I can't believe that's real...
somehow I can't believe that's real...

I would hope it's not, but I do know one of the clients. I can't imagine the person faking all that for the sake of the medium.

Which means that the other discussions on there could possibly belong to other legitimate people. I wouldn't be survived if she hired out some shills or made fake accounts to give herself credibility, but I know at least one of them is real.

Grief can make us do foolish things. It just angers me to know that someone is making money off of the grief-stricken (especially since I know one of them).

I dislike all kinds of lies, but I have a particularly strong loathing for the people who perpetrate these ones.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 11, 2014, 09:09:47 pm
Kangaroof - We hop to it

^A real business.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 12, 2014, 02:33:03 am
Got my What If? book signed by Randall Munroe.

yaaaaaaaay

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTZctTG6cE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTZctTG6cE)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: qmech on September 12, 2014, 03:55:45 am
It just seems so criminal to charge someone $11 to make him/her feel warm and fuzzy. I'm disgusted.

I'm not on facebook, so can't read the page, but $11 to relieve grief could be very cheap.  Would you be disgusted by a good counsellor charging $11 for the same result?  I completely agree that there's something off about mediums, so there has to be more to it than taking money off grieving people.  Perhaps it's that encouraging belief in the supernatural will lead to changes that might be damaging in the long term?

There's a similar situation with homeopaths.  If a placebo effect is enough to make someone feel better then that's great, but you don't want people to rely on homeopathy if they have a problem that a placebo won't fix.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 12, 2014, 09:56:08 am
I would not be as disgusted if a counselor made someone feel better. That's because typically the counselor relies on training to get the person through tough times. Often these are tried-and-true methods—perhaps with a little controversy—but generally accepted and tested.

This person is claiming to be able to talk to dead animals. The target audience is people who have such a strong emotional attachment to animals that their pain and/or guilt brings them to charlatans. This person is lying about her abilities and perpetuating wrong beliefs. I'm glad that my friend feels better about the outcome of the animal, but that could have been done in any number of ways not involving shelling out money to a hack. I don't know how much my friend paid in the end, but you're right that $11 (or $121 if it was 11 additional questions) is a small price to pay for peace of mind, but I vehemently oppose this woman getting that money for cold reading.

And if you look at the page, you can see the cold reading happening.

"Your dog loved eating bacon on Sundays."
"We never gave him bacon."
"He might be thinking of previous owners."
"Probably; we didn't know what his previous owners fed him."

It's glaringly obvious that she's fishing, but the client is obviously grieving and willing to overlook that.

In a sense, I'm kind of awed by how effective cold reading can be. It's beautiful how the human brain works, even to its own disadvantage, but the scams perpetuated with cold reading do disgust me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 12, 2014, 10:22:36 am
All I can say is Penn and Teller had more than one episode on hacks like this on their Bullshit show, and they make these points while at the same time showing how ridiculous these people are.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 12, 2014, 04:15:48 pm
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/bcff4acb9b7fa57426978f9aaa16bd6f/tumblr_n7dcxb5B7F1r57531o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 13, 2014, 05:37:05 am
If anyone wants a PAL download code for the Super Smash Bros for 3DS demo, I have two available to offer. Note that I don't think they work on NSTC so you need to actually be PAL for it to work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 13, 2014, 06:48:34 am
I'd take one if you still have any left. ;)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 13, 2014, 02:08:47 pm
Was anybody into Runescape back in the day? Or maybe even the original PSO?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 13, 2014, 02:09:10 pm
No.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 13, 2014, 02:43:13 pm
Was anybody into Runescape back in the day? Or maybe even the original PSO?

When I was in grade 5. I was level a lot in smithing and mining. Like top 100 in smithing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 13, 2014, 02:43:58 pm
Was anybody into Runescape back in the day? Or maybe even the original PSO?
I was into RuneScape in 2005. I have some items from a Christmas event that year, it's still sometimes amusing to log in and walk around with them on and watch people's reactions.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 13, 2014, 02:45:29 pm
I wish I still had my account. I was like lvl 119 or so all f2p. I think someone hacked my account somehow and it got deleted. Were you guys in any clans?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 13, 2014, 02:53:57 pm
No I just played f2p to level up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 13, 2014, 03:34:47 pm
Or maybe even the original PSO?

I've played the GC version. A LOT. Love that game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 13, 2014, 03:39:02 pm
Or maybe even the original PSO?

I've played the GC version. A LOT. Love that game.

Yeah it's awesome, I played the original on Dreamcast with Seganet. The game was ruined for me when I walked into a room and found a few piles of the max amount of meseta. I've been trying to find videos on youtube of the original but they're aren't many.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on September 13, 2014, 04:14:25 pm
If anyone wants a PAL download code for the Super Smash Bros for 3DS demo, I have two available to offer. Note that I don't think they work on NSTC so you need to actually be PAL for it to work.

I'd almost forgotten I even own a 3DS. No idea where it is. I'm surprised how quick I went off digital games when I discovered boardgames but I've got almost zero interest in them any more.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 13, 2014, 05:45:24 pm
I just googled recursion. It was awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 13, 2014, 06:00:37 pm
I just googled recursion. It was awesome.

Also try the following searches:

- tilt
- do a barrel roll
- anagram
- define anagram
- atari breakout (image search)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 13, 2014, 09:41:05 pm
I cracked up really hard at the scene at 1:04 of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbZmcTSmEM
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 14, 2014, 01:30:18 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZND9dApFKU
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on September 14, 2014, 07:03:41 am
Was anybody into Runescape back in the day?
Me and my brother definitely went to the library a few time to play since dialup at home doesn't really let you play together. I wonder if my character still exists!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 14, 2014, 10:56:32 am
Was anybody into Runescape back in the day?
Me and my brother definitely went to the library a few time to play since dialup at home doesn't really let you play together. I wonder if my character still exists!
I used to play in middle school.  I went back a few years ago and still had my character :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 15, 2014, 01:06:47 pm
Found this. You can see my name briefly around 6:59 and then you can see me getting my ass beat around 8:55. Ah the memories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXs6F7fbYyw
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 15, 2014, 03:15:34 pm
My family has weekly meetings to plan out the week.  In the summer, it was usually just "Oh, I have one or two things this week."  Even after school started, it still wasn't much since I'm homeschooled.

Yesterday: "I have something going on every day this week."

Oh boy...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 15, 2014, 10:38:42 pm
Did 100 pushups tonight!  25, 20, 15, (long break), 20, 20.  Needed the break though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 15, 2014, 11:09:29 pm
Baseball and crotch grabbing.

http://cespedesfamilybarbecue.com/2014/04/14/chris-resop-the-most-interesting-reliever-in-the-world/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 16, 2014, 12:16:21 am
Got 17:55 in VVVVVV 100%, which is the first time I've gotten sub-18 :D

Highlights include losing 5 seconds because I had the game muted to listen to music, causing me to miss an audio cue for failing one of the sequence breaks that I get 99% of the time, and 1st try Veni Vidi Vici.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 16, 2014, 05:11:49 am
Did 100 pushups tonight!  25, 20, 15, (long break), 20, 20.  Needed the break though.

Do you do the pushups quickly or slowly? How do you position your hands?

Not trying in any way to minimize your achievement (congrats!), just curious. I bet by now you must have nailed the technique.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 16, 2014, 09:47:05 am
Did 100 pushups tonight!  25, 20, 15, (long break), 20, 20.  Needed the break though.

Do you do the pushups quickly or slowly? How do you position your hands?

Not trying in any way to minimize your achievement (congrats!), just curious. I bet by now you must have nailed the technique.

I vary sometimes.. I try to stay with a narrow hand position, under my shoulder socket, and keep my elbows behind me (not out).  I don't really pause at all during each set of 15-25, though last week I had to at some of them as I was tiring out.  I don't go really fast, though.. just down-up-down at a comfortable and fluid pace.

One weird thing I noticed.. when I look back at my feet, it looks like they're always to my left, so my legs are slightly angled.  When I worry about straightening them, I feel slightly less balanced while doing the pushup.  Probably has something to do with my right arm being stronger than my left (or my right shoulder moving weirdly from a lot of volleyball).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 16, 2014, 11:45:45 am
The wider you place your hands when doing pushups the more you engage your chest. If you put your hands close together (diamond pushup) you engage more of your triceps. Regular pushups are still more chest than triceps but using the other two hand placements you can focus more on certain muscles. If I'm incorporating pushups into a workout I usually use all three hand placements. Also I would recommend the perfect pushup:

http://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Fitness-PP6105-Pushup-Original/dp/B000KDM3BG

They're harder than regular pushups and really make you work.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 16, 2014, 11:55:57 am
I only prancercise.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 16, 2014, 12:38:08 pm
Uwe Rosenberg is the Tim Burton of boardgaming.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 16, 2014, 01:36:14 pm
They're harder than regular pushups and really make you work.

"Harder" is a very loose term here I think.  Rather, I would say that they force you to use more muscle groups in a single pushup than when you regularly do  them.  Really, the biggest benefit I see from using the "perfect pushup" or something like it is to relieve the stress on your wrists.  Which can be important. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 16, 2014, 01:50:25 pm
Yeah I think they engage your core muscles more than when you would do a regular pushup. I haven't used them in a long time though so t take my word for it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 16, 2014, 02:35:30 pm
I have the perfect pushup, and I actually don't think it's better.  I find that if I spend a while doing these, then I'm not really any better at doing regular pushups.. actually worse than if I had spent that time doing regular pushups.  It's probably good to alternate, to activate different muscles, or the muscles in different ways.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 16, 2014, 06:31:27 pm
Real men just do them on their fists. Regular push-ups wear on my wrists so I alternate to my fists and back.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 16, 2014, 07:03:58 pm
Real men just do them on their fists. Regular push-ups wear on my wrists so I alternate to my fists and back.

I like rotating through hands, fists, fingers
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: mail-mi on September 16, 2014, 07:20:50 pm
Real men just do them on their fists. Regular push-ups wear on my wrists so I alternate to my fists and back.

I like rotating through hands, fists, fingers

I also do finger push ups.

wait that's when your fingers go down and up on the keyboard, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 16, 2014, 08:51:08 pm
Real men just do them on their fists. Regular push-ups wear on my wrists so I alternate to my fists and back.

I like rotating through hands, fists, fingers

I also do finger push ups.

wait that's when your fingers go down and up on the keyboard, right?

No, no. Those are finger push-downs. Easy mistake to make :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 17, 2014, 09:23:29 am
Man, that was probably the most efficient all-employee meeting I've been in. The question box allowed her to address our concerns with nobody offering up any follow-up questions. I hope all meetings are like this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 17, 2014, 09:30:18 am
Real men just do them on their fists. Regular push-ups wear on my wrists so I alternate to my fists and back.

I like rotating through hands, fists, fingers

I also do finger push ups.

wait that's when your fingers go down and up on the keyboard, right?

No, no. Those are finger push-downs. Easy mistake to make :P

That's just a change of coordinate system.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 17, 2014, 10:08:35 am
So I have a playful discourse with someone in the office who laments that she doesn't have anything in her inbox. So I drew a picture of a dam and put it in there to counter my "I don't give a damn" attitude.

Then I drew a picture of a rat's ass and put it in there.

If my work environment was less restrictive (and I knew she wouldn't be offended), I would consider drawing a flying fuck, but I think that will just have to stay in my head and off the paper.

Any other metaphor-like stuff (not that metaphor is the correct term but whatever)?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 17, 2014, 10:12:28 am
So I have a playful discourse with someone in the office who laments that she doesn't have anything in her inbox.

You totally dropped the ball with some sexual-harassment innuendo.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 17, 2014, 11:44:38 am
So I have a playful discourse with someone in the office who laments that she doesn't have anything in her inbox.

You totally dropped the ball with some sexual-harassment innuendo.

I think of it less of dropping balls and more of ensuring my balls don't end up in HR having a stern talking-to.

But sexual innuendos did fill my head.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on September 17, 2014, 12:01:08 pm
So I have a playful discourse with someone in the office who laments that she doesn't have anything in her inbox. So I drew a picture of a dam and put it in there to counter my "I don't give a damn" attitude.

Then I drew a picture of a rat's ass and put it in there.

If my work environment was less restrictive (and I knew she wouldn't be offended), I would consider drawing a flying fuck, but I think that will just have to stay in my head and off the paper.

Any other metaphor-like stuff (not that metaphor is the correct term but whatever)?
(http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/blogs/header_img/2009/Jan/21/theflyingfork_t300.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 17, 2014, 02:48:48 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/t6uWYpQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 17, 2014, 02:51:44 pm
Repost!

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg411606#msg411606
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 17, 2014, 04:44:48 pm
Wonder if this is the kind of stuff that can be found in Goko's code:

http://imgur.com/gallery/KAh1J

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 17, 2014, 04:48:08 pm
Wonder if this is the kind of stuff that can be found in Goko's code:

http://imgur.com/gallery/KAh1J

My favorite so far:

Code: [Select]
// I can't divide with zero, so I have to divide with something very similar
result = number/0.00000000000001;
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 17, 2014, 04:56:12 pm
Wonder if this is the kind of stuff that can be found in Goko's code:

http://imgur.com/gallery/KAh1J

My favorite so far:

Code: [Select]
// I can't divide with zero, so I have to divide with something very similar
result = number/0.00000000000001;
+1 for having the correct number of 0s.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 17, 2014, 09:17:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmTUW-owa2w

Really interesting mini-documentary about the nature of internet celebrity.  As usual, the youtube comments are depressing and filled with people missing (and proving) the point.  But the video is worth the watch!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 17, 2014, 09:30:49 pm
Really interesting mini-documentary about the nature of internet celebrity.  As usual, the youtube comments are depressing and filled with people missing (and proving) the point.  But the video is worth the watch!

I watched that the other day. Interesting film. I thought of it again when Notch recently sold Mojang (Minecraft) to Microsoft. It seems that part of the reason he did it was because a vocal minority on the internet was mad at him over Minecraft's EULA. I guess I don't know for certain how I would react in a similar situation, but damn that seems like overkill.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 17, 2014, 09:33:32 pm
Really interesting mini-documentary about the nature of internet celebrity.  As usual, the youtube comments are depressing and filled with people missing (and proving) the point.  But the video is worth the watch!

I watched that the other day. Interesting film. I thought of it again when Notch recently sold Mojang (Minecraft) to Microsoft. It seems that part of the reason he did it was because a vocal minority on the internet was mad at him over Minecraft's EULA. I guess I don't know for certain how I would react in a similar situation, but damn that seems like overkill.

The billions of dollars was probably part of the consideration as well. :P  What was wrong with the EULA?

I've never paid much attention to Minecraft.  Not sure if it's because the game just never appealed to me, or I never gave it a chance out of some hipster desire to not enjoy the latest trend.  I never actually tried it out, beyond watching friends play it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 17, 2014, 09:52:17 pm
Really interesting mini-documentary about the nature of internet celebrity.  As usual, the youtube comments are depressing and filled with people missing (and proving) the point.  But the video is worth the watch!

I watched that the other day. Interesting film. I thought of it again when Notch recently sold Mojang (Minecraft) to Microsoft. It seems that part of the reason he did it was because a vocal minority on the internet was mad at him over Minecraft's EULA. I guess I don't know for certain how I would react in a similar situation, but damn that seems like overkill.

The billions of dollars was probably part of the consideration as well. :P  What was wrong with the EULA?

I've never paid much attention to Minecraft.  Not sure if it's because the game just never appealed to me, or I never gave it a chance out of some hipster desire to not enjoy the latest trend.  I never actually tried it out, beyond watching friends play it.

Nothing was wrong with the EULA. It didn't change. Some other Mojang employee reminded folks that they weren't allowed to charge real moneys for server perks (like in-game items and abilities). Some parasites people who were making tons of money off these sorts of servers were enraged and spewed hatred at Notch, among others. Apparently this hurt his feelings.

EDIT: Here, you can read his take on it on his website (http://notch.net/). The post titled "Literally worse than EA" is about the EULA stuff. The post titled "I'm leaving Mojang" is about the sale to Microsoft. I try not to be a hipster, but the guy literally sold out. And he sold out all his employees in the process.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 17, 2014, 10:33:39 pm
Really interesting mini-documentary about the nature of internet celebrity.  As usual, the youtube comments are depressing and filled with people missing (and proving) the point.  But the video is worth the watch!

I watched that the other day. Interesting film. I thought of it again when Notch recently sold Mojang (Minecraft) to Microsoft. It seems that part of the reason he did it was because a vocal minority on the internet was mad at him over Minecraft's EULA. I guess I don't know for certain how I would react in a similar situation, but damn that seems like overkill.

The billions of dollars was probably part of the consideration as well. :P  What was wrong with the EULA?

I've never paid much attention to Minecraft.  Not sure if it's because the game just never appealed to me, or I never gave it a chance out of some hipster desire to not enjoy the latest trend.  I never actually tried it out, beyond watching friends play it.

Nothing was wrong with the EULA. It didn't change. Some other Mojang employee reminded folks that they weren't allowed to charge real moneys for server perks (like in-game items and abilities). Some parasites people who were making tons of money off these sorts of servers were enraged and spewed hatred at Notch, among others. Apparently this hurt his feelings.

EDIT: Here, you can read his take on it on his website (http://notch.net/). The post titled "Literally worse than EA" is about the EULA stuff. The post titled "I'm leaving Mojang" is about the sale to Microsoft. I try not to be a hipster, but the guy literally sold out. And he sold out all his employees in the process.

Hmm, maybe it's because I'm not a Minecraft player, but he seems pretty reasonable when he lays it out.  I don't know what it means for Mojang or Minecraft though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 17, 2014, 10:47:54 pm
Really interesting mini-documentary about the nature of internet celebrity.  As usual, the youtube comments are depressing and filled with people missing (and proving) the point.  But the video is worth the watch!

I watched that the other day. Interesting film. I thought of it again when Notch recently sold Mojang (Minecraft) to Microsoft. It seems that part of the reason he did it was because a vocal minority on the internet was mad at him over Minecraft's EULA. I guess I don't know for certain how I would react in a similar situation, but damn that seems like overkill.

The billions of dollars was probably part of the consideration as well. :P  What was wrong with the EULA?

I've never paid much attention to Minecraft.  Not sure if it's because the game just never appealed to me, or I never gave it a chance out of some hipster desire to not enjoy the latest trend.  I never actually tried it out, beyond watching friends play it.

Nothing was wrong with the EULA. It didn't change. Some other Mojang employee reminded folks that they weren't allowed to charge real moneys for server perks (like in-game items and abilities). Some parasites people who were making tons of money off these sorts of servers were enraged and spewed hatred at Notch, among others. Apparently this hurt his feelings.

EDIT: Here, you can read his take on it on his website (http://notch.net/). The post titled "Literally worse than EA" is about the EULA stuff. The post titled "I'm leaving Mojang" is about the sale to Microsoft. I try not to be a hipster, but the guy literally sold out. And he sold out all his employees in the process.

Hmm, maybe it's because I'm not a Minecraft player, but he seems pretty reasonable when he lays it out.  I don't know what it means for Mojang or Minecraft though.

It's perfectly reasonable. I guess I just held him to a higher standard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 18, 2014, 08:36:11 am
I don't know much about the guy or his game, but I presume he built it from the ground up? If so, then he watched his quaint little game turn into this creeping kudzu fungus virus plague monster and may have just said, "fuck this shit."

Wild speculation on my part having no idea what is really going on.

I did try Minecraft, but I found it tedious for my tastes. I also tried Terraria, which I understand is a 2D Minecraft. I found that tedious as well. Apparently that type of game holds no interest for me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 18, 2014, 09:35:48 am
Someone is playing this kingdom against 5 bots right now: Haggler, Cultist, Count, Border Village, Altar, Steward, Market Square, Upgrade, Torturer, Knights.


Why would anyone do that?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 18, 2014, 09:43:45 am
I watched a video of a woman wearing a bikini and some animal mask pulling up in a high-end car and getting out. Then a man, also wearing a mask, groped her breasts with a rubber glove attached at the end of a trombone as he played Yankee Doodle. Upon the song's completion, the woman got in the car and drove off.

I would hunt down the video and link it, but I think the description is weird enough.

Not sure if hawt.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 18, 2014, 09:44:23 am
I watched a video of a woman wearing a bikini and some animal mask pulling up in a high-end car and getting out. Then a man, also wearing a mask, groped her breasts with a rubber glove attached at the end of a trombone as he played Yankee Doodle. Upon the song's completion, the woman got in the car and drove off.

I would hunt down the video and link it, but I think the description is weird enough.

Not sure if hawt.

I saw a gif of this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 18, 2014, 12:26:59 pm
I watched a video of a woman wearing a bikini and some animal mask pulling up in a high-end car and getting out. Then a man, also wearing a mask, groped her breasts with a rubber glove attached at the end of a trombone as he played Yankee Doodle. Upon the song's completion, the woman got in the car and drove off.

I would hunt down the video and link it, but I think the description is weird enough.

Not sure if hawt.

I saw a gif of this.

I assure you that having sound did not enhance it in any way, so you're good to go.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 18, 2014, 12:28:33 pm
So I have a playful discourse with someone in the office who laments that she doesn't have anything in her inbox. So I drew a picture of a dam and put it in there to counter my "I don't give a damn" attitude.

Then I drew a picture of a rat's ass and put it in there.

If my work environment was less restrictive (and I knew she wouldn't be offended), I would consider drawing a flying fuck, but I think that will just have to stay in my head and off the paper.

Any other metaphor-like stuff (not that metaphor is the correct term but whatever)?


Update: I did include a flying fig, as that expression sees some use.

But now, aside from not giving a damn, a rat's ass, or a flying fig, I've run out of idioms along this thought. I'm about to start making things up like not giving a bear on a trike.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 18, 2014, 01:05:39 pm
You could always give a shit. Which is fairly vulgar I suppose, so maybe you could give a Shih Tzu or a shiitake?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 18, 2014, 01:30:35 pm
You could always give a shit. Which is fairly vulgar I suppose, so maybe you could give a Shih Tzu or a shiitake?

I like it. The group isn't very prudish, so the play on words that sounds like shit would go over well without the awkwardness of drawing something crude. Excellent suggestion.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 18, 2014, 01:35:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAuolj8pXlY
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 18, 2014, 03:05:28 pm
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/3b5cf1510bb7c6a48b7c3c75837a0342/tumblr_na6pteZjN71qdlh1io1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 18, 2014, 10:55:10 pm
I have a script that pings/scrapes info from a website every hour. I was just about to freak out about it, since I got an email notification that goes off when something goes wrong with getting the data...and then it turns out the site was down and it wasn't my fault.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 19, 2014, 02:24:30 pm
Anyone follow Imgur and see the "Danquan" stuff?

Part 1 (http://imgur.com/gallery/XO685d2)
Part 2 (http://imgur.com/gallery/u92ZogX)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 19, 2014, 02:42:42 pm
I'm not sure if I'm good or just plain lucky when I manage to type this in without any errors:
=IF(AND($L3=-1, IF(AND(OR(WEEKDAY(NOW()) = 5, WEEKDAY(NOW()) = 6), $C3<NOW()+4), TRUE, IF($C3<NOW()+2, TRUE, FALSE))), 1, 0)

Now if only I could be that good with my more complex Excel formulas. *shakes tiny fist*
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 19, 2014, 03:28:13 pm
I'm not sure if I'm good or just plain lucky when I manage to type this in without any errors:
=IF(AND($L3=-1, IF(AND(OR(WEEKDAY(NOW()) = 5, WEEKDAY(NOW()) = 6), $C3<NOW()+4), TRUE, IF($C3<NOW()+2, TRUE, FALSE))), 1, 0)

Now if only I could be that good with my more complex Excel formulas. *shakes tiny fist*

I can't even tell what that is for...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 19, 2014, 03:38:14 pm
If L3 is -1, and one of the following two things is true, then return 1, otherwise return 0

It's Thursday or Friday AND C3 is less than 4 days after from today
OR
C3 is less than 2 days after from today

I don't really get that second part though.  So you're trying to capture all situations where C3 is less than 2 days away from today, but you're also interested in situations where C3 is a Monday/Tuesday when it's currently Thursday or Friday?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 19, 2014, 04:19:23 pm
Correct. The intent is to see if a task is past due. The task should be done prior to 2 business days before the date in C. If the task is done, then the value in L will not be -1. If the date is more than 2 days, then it doesn't matter if L is -1 because the task isn't due yet.

Hmm, I forgot there's a WORKDAY function. I bet I could have used that. It'd also handle those pesky holidays it seems, but that means maintaining the holidays every year. Not sure if it's worth redoing now at this point, but I may do it just because I like keeping things neat.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 19, 2014, 05:01:14 pm
Yeah that sounds like it'd be a lot easier to be honest.  IF($C3<WORKDAY(NOW(),2), etc.  Would certainly be easier to maintain.  And I imagine there are "libraries" of pre-generated holidays.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 20, 2014, 03:11:59 am
Recently watched The Prestige.  Question for those who also watched it (and if you haven't, this really is a big spoiler, though I'll try to be ambiguous about it).

Do you think that the final solution to the trick really was just the sci-fi explanation as given?  I'm leaning towards the alternative, that this is just a trick on us, the real life audience of the film, and that the solution is that Angier managed to find and wrangle his previous body double before committing that final act of revenge.  All the sci-fi business was just Algier's story to reel in Borden.

Edit: The more I read online, the more I see that most people want to believe in the sci-fi solution, and the more I am convinced that it isn't.  I am finding it incredibly frustrating.  I think I will have to watch it again and write up my own interpretation, trying to address all the criticisms of the "machine did not work" theory.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 20, 2014, 05:32:02 am
Recently watched The Prestige.  Question for those who also watched it (and if you haven't, this really is a big spoiler, though I'll try to be ambiguous about it).

Do you think that the final solution to the trick really was just the sci-fi explanation as given?  I'm leaning towards the alternative, that this is just a trick on us, the real life audience of the film, and that the solution is that Angier managed to find and wrangle his previous body double before committing that final act of revenge.  All the sci-fi business was just Algier's story to reel in Borden.

Edit: The more I read online, the more I see that most people want to believe in the sci-fi solution, and the more I am convinced that it isn't.  I am finding it incredibly frustrating.  I think I will have to watch it again and write up my own interpretation, trying to address all the criticisms of the "machine did not work" theory.

I've only seen the Prestige in passing, but isn't there a scene at the end lots of hats everywhere, maybe with 2 identical cats? I dislike the argument that these are all details that suggest the sci-fi solution, and are in the movie only for throwing people off.

Also, Borden manages to recognize the body double from last time, and the non-sci-fi solution means Algier let the body double drown for his revenge, and although the cloning explanation also involves that, it's a bit more likely for him to decide that he's taking the risk of dying every time for the sake of revenge than to kill some other guy for revenge.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 20, 2014, 12:49:47 pm
Recently watched The Prestige.  Question for those who also watched it (and if you haven't, this really is a big spoiler, though I'll try to be ambiguous about it).

Do you think that the final solution to the trick really was just the sci-fi explanation as given?  I'm leaning towards the alternative, that this is just a trick on us, the real life audience of the film, and that the solution is that Angier managed to find and wrangle his previous body double before committing that final act of revenge.  All the sci-fi business was just Algier's story to reel in Borden.

Edit: The more I read online, the more I see that most people want to believe in the sci-fi solution, and the more I am convinced that it isn't.  I am finding it incredibly frustrating.  I think I will have to watch it again and write up my own interpretation, trying to address all the criticisms of the "machine did not work" theory.

I've only seen the Prestige in passing, but isn't there a scene at the end lots of hats everywhere, maybe with 2 identical cats? I dislike the argument that these are all details that suggest the sci-fi solution, and are in the movie only for throwing people off.

Also, Borden manages to recognize the body double from last time, and the non-sci-fi solution means Algier let the body double drown for his revenge, and although the cloning explanation also involves that, it's a bit more likely for him to decide that he's taking the risk of dying every time for the sake of revenge than to kill some other guy for revenge.


Funny, I've been talking about something related with people that had also watched Trascendence (spoilers for The Prestige, not really for Transcendence, unless you haven't watched the trailer).

Do any of you think that Algier's clones were himself? Or somebody else with identical memories?
Do you think that the computer version of Johnny Depp (in Trascendence) was Johnny Depp, or something else entirely?
Would your consider that they are the same only in the very precise instant of their creation? For either of them?


I've been surprised to discover that among my group of friends (physicists, mathematicians, programmers), the answer is yes, they are the same, for any relevant/consistent definition of "being the same".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 20, 2014, 01:16:00 pm
Recently watched The Prestige.  Question for those who also watched it (and if you haven't, this really is a big spoiler, though I'll try to be ambiguous about it).

Do you think that the final solution to the trick really was just the sci-fi explanation as given?  I'm leaning towards the alternative, that this is just a trick on us, the real life audience of the film, and that the solution is that Angier managed to find and wrangle his previous body double before committing that final act of revenge.  All the sci-fi business was just Algier's story to reel in Borden.

Edit: The more I read online, the more I see that most people want to believe in the sci-fi solution, and the more I am convinced that it isn't.  I am finding it incredibly frustrating.  I think I will have to watch it again and write up my own interpretation, trying to address all the criticisms of the "machine did not work" theory.

Um, the room where Borden kills Angiers contains dozens of water tanks each containing a dead copy of Algiers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 20, 2014, 01:30:45 pm
Yeah, I can't see any ambiguity in how The Prestige played out.  Unless you're going to go metaphorical or something.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: florrat on September 20, 2014, 03:11:12 pm
Recently watched The Prestige.  Question for those who also watched it (and if you haven't, this really is a big spoiler, though I'll try to be ambiguous about it).

Do you think that the final solution to the trick really was just the sci-fi explanation as given?  I'm leaning towards the alternative, that this is just a trick on us, the real life audience of the film, and that the solution is that Angier managed to find and wrangle his previous body double before committing that final act of revenge.  All the sci-fi business was just Algier's story to reel in Borden.

I like your interpretation, never thought of it myself, but I agree with "the internet" here. I think the arguments by LastFootnote and Titandrake are pretty strong against your interpretation.

@pacovf: I'd say they're two different entities who have exactly the same memories in the instant of their creation. After that, they are clearly not the same: they have different thoughts and feelings (which is pretty clearly depicted in Angier's "test run" where he kills his clone).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 20, 2014, 04:29:24 pm
I'm going to need to rewatch it to take notes, especially of how the characters react to each other and various revelations.  But here is some reasoning based on what I remember from the first viewing:

There are two theories here.  The most popular one is the clone theory.  The machine worked.  Clones were killed.  The other theory, which I favour, is the illusion theory.  The machine never worked.  It was all an elaborate con by Algiers.

First, note that all the stuff about clones is coming from Algiers' diary.  It was a fake diary written as an insult to Borden, the very epitome of the unreliable narrator.  The cats and hats?  Either deception by Tesla or fiction by Algiers.  The scene where Algiers saw his first clone and shot him?  Pure fiction.  Algiers was fooled by Borden and then conned by Tesla, but he turned it around to take down Borden.

Algiers was fully committed to the deception, and the audience was Borden, not the people who came to see his show.  He went as far as having blind men move a water tank away at the end of every show.  This was misdirection from the truth -- that Algiers had brought his double back into the act.  Borden couldn't believe Algiers would do such a thing because of how disastrously it went for Algiers the first time around.  He also knew that Algiers hated having to hide beneath the stage while his double got all the applause.  Borden needed only a small push to get him searching for another answer -- thus the water tanks.

I'll have to watch it again, but I remember Algiers telling Cutter that he didn't want him backstage "this time", for the last performance.  It implied that Cutter had been there before, but this particular performance was special.  It would be the last performance, the one where curiosity got the better of Borden and end with him framed for murder.

On the question of the body double, Root.  There are plenty of reasons why he would agree to work with Algiers again, and reasons why Algiers was willing.  Money is the easy answer.  Another is that Root was not a willing participant when Borden trussed him up and made him a fool.  Root could have been resentful that Borden had manipulated him and caused him to screw up a decent job. 

The first time they worked together, Algiers was resentful that he was not the prestige part of the act.  Root, on the other hand, was unhappy that the others didn't think he was capable of leading the act (Cutter commented that they would be found out as soon as Root opened his mouth).  But we already got a taste of Root's acting ability, and he rattled off a list of past roles he'd played.  I think he very well could have been a capable actor.  Algiers let Root back in for Roots to prove his ability and for Algiers to get his chance to shine in the prestige.  And of course, Algiers had further ambition -- to enact revenge upon both Root and Borden.

Cutter ID'd the body at the morgue, but he was too sad to look too closely.  He realized the truth when he found Algiers alive.  He was disgusted at Algiers then.  He had come to beg the lord to destroy the machine, but he would do so no longer because he realized it was all a fraud.  The machine never worked.

Finally, all those dead Algiers at the end.  I have two possible explanations right now, and I think there could be others.  One is that the bodies are fakes, maybe wax doubles, placed in the theatre by Cutter as admonishment for the murder of Root.  Heck, one of them might have been Root himself.  "Look at what you've done, Algiers!"

The second possibility is that they are fakes brought them by Algiers himself.  Algiers was at the theatre to destroy the machine to get rid of evidence -- specifically, the evidence that the machine was nothing more than a sparkly prop. Algiers was so committed to the clone deception that he not only had blind men moving water tanks, he even put fake doubles of himself in those tanks in case Borden went so far as to sneak a peek.  Now that his scheme was complete, all the fake bodies were brought back so that he could dispose of everything cleanly.

I think all those bodies are actually a point against the clone theory.  Suppose he really had been killing clones every night.  Why in the world would he have them all moved back into the theatre?  Actual human bodies would be far more difficult to dispose of than wax duplicates.  He would have found a way to get rid of them each night.

And finally finally, there is a meta argument.  The closing narration says:

Now you’re looking for the secret…
But you won’t find it…
…because you don’t really want to know…
…you want to be fooled.

We are looking for the trick to the film, but we won't find it because we don't really want to know the truth.  We want to be fooled into believing the solution right in front of us -- that the machine was real all along.  But the secret is that it was just one big con.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 20, 2014, 04:41:41 pm
RE: The Prestige

Wow.... I didn't even stop to think that the ending could be something other than what they tell you...  Mind blown for today
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 20, 2014, 05:04:40 pm
I guess that argument works.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 20, 2014, 07:56:29 pm
@pacovf: I'd say they're two different entities who have exactly the same memories in the instant of their creation. After that, they are clearly not the same: they have different thoughts and feelings (which is pretty clearly depicted in Angier's "test run" where he kills his clone).

One of my (physicist) friends pointed out that, if you created a perfect copy of a person down to quantum level, for any practical sense of the word "same", the copy and the original are more than indistinguishable, they are the same.  Furthermore, entanglement effects would mean that interacting with one of them would actually have an effect on the other*! So he was of the opinion that a perfect copy would be the same person.

Another argument that he put forward: we can consider that you are the same person you were an infinitesimal amount of time before; yet in that amount of time, you've changed. How can the person who is identical to you not be the same person you are, when he actually ressembles you more than yourself from an infinitesimal amount of time before?


*Because physics. Of course, this effect decreases quickly with time and interactions.

PS: I think discussing philosophy (and ethics) in random stuff is relevant.  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 20, 2014, 08:04:59 pm
Quantum entanglement may apply, but if you weren't entangled with your clone and if the world were not deterministic,  then the clones would evolve differently.

Plus, even so, you don't occupy the same space.  You turn left to go somewhere and your clone walks off a roof elsewhere.  Things would be quite different.

But.. quantum entanglement doesn't mean the particle just copies another, right?  If you have two entangled photons hurrying off separate directions, and you put a barrier in front of one, their experiences will be different.

I'm not a physicist, though... I'm sure Peebles will come in and correct things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on September 20, 2014, 08:13:19 pm
If two particles are quantumly entangled, it'd only affect the spin of the particles. Movement in space of one particle doesn't affect the other (except normally like if they collide or whatever)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 20, 2014, 08:27:07 pm
If two particles are quantumly entangled, it'd only affect the spin of the particles. Movement in space of one particle doesn't affect the other (except normally like if they collide or whatever)

Right.  So that was my point.  Clones would still be different, because they exist separately in space.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 20, 2014, 09:11:03 pm
eHalcyon, that all just amounts to a conspiracy theory. The movie hints at none of that. This ain't Inception, where the ending is left purposefully ambiguous. You (or someone else) has created this interpretation from whole cloth. If the movie really is trying to tell the story as you describe, it does a tremendously bad job of it.

I could say that the events of Groundhog Day all took place in the unhinged mind of Bill Murray's character. I could easily concoct a whole detailed description of what the events of the movie actually signified was happening in reality. It would all be internally consistent, but that wouldn't matter because the movie is already a work of fiction and that's not the story it's trying to tell.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Donald X. on September 21, 2014, 12:00:50 am
One of my (physicist) friends pointed out that, if you created a perfect copy of a person down to quantum level, for any practical sense of the word "same", the copy and the original are more than indistinguishable, they are the same.  Furthermore, entanglement effects would mean that interacting with one of them would actually have an effect on the other*! So he was of the opinion that a perfect copy would be the same person.
Objects like people exist only to us, at a high level. To the universe, there is just a pile of stuff that we are drawing a box around. You aren't the same as the copy; there are two piles of stuff with the same pattern. They are, at the very least, located in different places, which is enough to distinguish them. I can see turning over in your mind the idea that all photons are the same photon, since they lack identity, but applying this to patterns of stuff just means throwing out location as meaning anything and well. Ask someone who's horny; location is everything.

I do like Borges though. Well you know. Ficciones.

Quote
Amongst the doctrines of Tlön, none has merited the scandalous reception accorded to materialism. Some thinkers have formulated it with less clarity than fervor, as one might put forth a paradox. In order to facilitate the comprehension of this inconceivable thesis, a heresiarch of the eleventh century (3) devised the sophism of the nine copper coins, whose scandalous renown is in Tlön equivalent to that of the Eleatic paradoxes. There are many versions of this "specious reasoning," which vary the number of coins and the number of discoveries; the following is the most common:

On Tuesday, X crosses a deserted road and loses nine copper coins. On Thursday, Y finds in the road four coins, somewhat rusted by Wednesday's rain. On Friday, Z discovers three coins in the road. On Friday morning, X finds two coins in the corridor of his house. The heresiarch would deduce from this story the reality - i.e., the continuity - of the nine coins which were recovered. It is absurd (he affirmed) to imagine that four of the coins have not existed between Tuesday and Thursday, three between Tuesday and Friday afternoon, two between Tuesday and Friday morning. It is logical to think that they have existed - at least in some secret way, hidden from the comprehension of men - at every moment of those three periods.

The language of Tlön resists the formulation of this paradox; most people did not even understand it. The defenders of common sense at first did no more than negate the veracity of the anecdote. They repeated that it was a verbal fallacy, based on the rash application of two neologisms not authorized by usage and alien to all rigorous thought: the verbs "find" and "lose," which beg the question, because they presuppose the identity of the first and of the last nine coins. They recalled that all nouns (man, coin, Thursday, Wednesday, rain) have only a metaphorical value. They denounced the treacherous circumstance "somewhat rusted by Wednesday's rain," which presupposes what is trying to be demonstrated: the persistence of the four coins from Tuesday to Thursday. They explained that equality is one thing and identity another, and formulated a kind of reductio ad absurdum: the hypothetical case of nine men who on nine nights suffer a severe pain. Would it not be ridiculous - they questioned - to pretend that this pain is one and the same? They said that the heresiarch was prompted only by the blasphemous intention of attributing the divine category of being to some simple coins and that at times he negated plurality and at other times did not. They argued: if equality implies identity, one would also have to admit that the nine coins are one.

Another argument that he put forward: we can consider that you are the same person you were an infinitesimal amount of time before; yet in that amount of time, you've changed. How can the person who is identical to you not be the same person you are, when he actually ressembles you more than yourself from an infinitesimal amount of time before?
This is straightforward. What are "you?" How can we define the concept so that a statement like "I used to live in Florida" (supposing you did) is true? It's not the physical stuff; that's all been replaced. What has been maintained is an illusion of continuity.

You are the illusion of continuity. That continuity is different for you and the copy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 21, 2014, 12:16:24 am
It's my birthday and I can post in the Random Stuff thread if I want to.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Dsell on September 21, 2014, 12:17:03 am
It's my birthday and I can post in the Random Stuff thread if I want to.

Hap birth.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 21, 2014, 12:17:27 am
It's my birthday and I can post in the Random Stuff thread if I want to.

You would post in the Random Stuff thread too if it happened to you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 21, 2014, 01:12:19 am
Yeah that sounds like it'd be a lot easier to be honest.  IF($C3<WORKDAY(NOW(),2), etc.  Would certainly be easier to maintain.  And I imagine there are "libraries" of pre-generated holidays.

But it also needs to take into account that I'll be running this all five workdays. I've considered modding, but I think that may be making it too complex. In any case, my mini-boast wasn't for the efficiency of the formula (which is actually quite sloppy) but that I actually managed to type that in without generating an error. I almost always have to play bug hunt with Excel formulas and sometimes have to test out portions before piecing everything together.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 21, 2014, 01:58:24 am
eHalcyon, that all just amounts to a conspiracy theory. The movie hints at none of that. This ain't Inception, where the ending is left purposefully ambiguous. You (or someone else) has created this interpretation from whole cloth. If the movie really is trying to tell the story as you describe, it does a tremendously bad job of it.

I could say that the events of Groundhog Day all took place in the unhinged mind of Bill Murray's character. I could easily concoct a whole detailed description of what the events of the movie actually signified was happening in reality. It would all be internally consistent, but that wouldn't matter because the movie is already a work of fiction and that's not the story it's trying to tell.

I respectfully disagree.  I think there are multiple hints.  The closing narration is one hint, as is the very theme of the film itself.  I also noted the comment made by Algiers to Cutter, about not being backstage.  I think there are more.  But again, that's from what I remember on first viewing, which is why I want to watch it again.  This is the impression that the film left on me from the first viewing, and not just something come up with on reflection.  This theory occurred to me right when Tesla implied that he could build a machine to scientifically teleport somebody and it only grew stronger when when the cats and hats cloning was revealed.  I thought it had to be deception, and nothing I saw seemed contradictory to that theory.  I was only surprised that they didn't come right out and confirm the deception, but it fit the theme of the film to leave it ambiguous
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 21, 2014, 02:08:40 am
On pacovf's question...

Do any of you think that Algier's clones were himself? Or somebody else with identical memories?
Do you think that the computer version of Johnny Depp (in Trascendence) was Johnny Depp, or something else entirely?
Would your consider that they are the same only in the very precise instant of their creation? For either of them?

There's actually a pokemon answer to this as well.  Background: It's possible to clone pokemon.  Even in XY, if you shut off one DS in the middle of a trade and time it correctly, you can end up with two copies of the same pokemon.  This devalues the pokemon in the eyes of many players.  There are subreddits for trading pokemon, and the biggest one rules that no cloned pokemon can be traded.  Enforcement of this rule is tricky, of course.

So the question is, can you trade the original pokemon and just keep the clone?  The answer is no.  They say:

"When you clone something, you cannot then trade the original. There is no original. There are just two clones."

You can't really tell the difference between either, so both are clones.


I'm not sure if I agree with that, but it's an interesting interpretation.  If the copy is indistiguishable from the original, I think the differentiating factor is in how the machine works.  If it's supposedly a teleporting machine that leaves a copy behind, then the original is the one that ends up in the new location.  If it creates a copy at the other location, then the one that did not move is the original.  But this is really a semantic argument, I guess?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: blueblimp on September 21, 2014, 03:00:31 am
The thing that bugged me most about the plot of The Prestige is if you have a device that can duplicate things, there are a huge number of ethically sound and financially more rewarding things you can do with it. The implausibility of the sci-fi tech is way out of proportion with the purpose that it's put to. It's been a while since I watched the movie, so maybe that's explained away somehow.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 21, 2014, 04:27:30 am
The thing that bugged me most about the plot of The Prestige is if you have a device that can duplicate things, there are a huge number of ethically sound and financially more rewarding things you can do with it. The implausibility of the sci-fi tech is way out of proportion with the purpose that it's put to. It's been a while since I watched the movie, so maybe that's explained away somehow.

Part of the point of The Prestige is that both of the main characters are super obsessed/crazy. There are things they could do, but creating the perfect trick is strong enough to overpower all their other desires.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 21, 2014, 08:03:55 am
the illusion theory is awesome. dunno if it's likely, but it's awesome. I really want to believe that it's true, or, at least that nolan considered it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 21, 2014, 10:30:28 am
The thing that bugged me most about the plot of The Prestige is if you have a device that can duplicate things, there are a huge number of ethically sound and financially more rewarding things you can do with it. The implausibility of the sci-fi tech is way out of proportion with the purpose that it's put to. It's been a while since I watched the movie, so maybe that's explained away somehow.

It was never about the money. Algiers actually comes from a rich family.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 21, 2014, 10:00:03 pm
i just saw a guy on goko with 5,5k pro rating and an ISO lvl of -6

 ???
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on September 21, 2014, 10:05:15 pm
i just saw a guy on goko with 5,5k pro rating and an ISO lvl of -6

 ???
he probably had only played a few pro games or played a bunch of bots.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 21, 2014, 10:30:39 pm
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888poker makes every effort to ensure that your withdrawal request is processed as quickly and efficiently as possible.

the withdrawal process takes between 5 and 10 days. first there is a completely unnecessary ~3-8 day "awaiting process" time frame, during which you can cancel your withdrawal (which you get rubbed into your face constantly), and then there is a ~2 day "processing" frame.

if you deposit money, it takes -literally- less than 20 seconds. the quoted statement is such a blatant lie, it's ridiculous. you should sue them for it.

dunno why i posted this.  :-X
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 21, 2014, 11:50:26 pm
dunno why i posted this.  :-X

/me points at the thread title
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: blueblimp on September 22, 2014, 01:50:36 am
The thing that bugged me most about the plot of The Prestige is if you have a device that can duplicate things, there are a huge number of ethically sound and financially more rewarding things you can do with it. The implausibility of the sci-fi tech is way out of proportion with the purpose that it's put to. It's been a while since I watched the movie, so maybe that's explained away somehow.

It was never about the money. Algiers actually comes from a rich family.
Fair point, but I was just using financials as an example. Having a exact duplicator is like a cheat code to the universe. There's barely anything that you CAN'T do with it, given enough creativity. To use it to fake teleporting across a room is just mind-bogglingly small-minded.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 22, 2014, 02:13:56 am
The thing that bugged me most about the plot of The Prestige is if you have a device that can duplicate things, there are a huge number of ethically sound and financially more rewarding things you can do with it. The implausibility of the sci-fi tech is way out of proportion with the purpose that it's put to. It's been a while since I watched the movie, so maybe that's explained away somehow.

It was never about the money. Algiers actually comes from a rich family.
Fair point, but I was just using financials as an example. Having a exact duplicator is like a cheat code to the universe. There's barely anything that you CAN'T do with it, given enough creativity. To use it to fake teleporting across a room is just mind-bogglingly small-minded.

Yeah, that's true enough.




On a completely different note...

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/4f7a50ef586137b1f7c67e6569155397/tumblr_nbz5yx3xv11rn8gxao1_500.jpg)



Edit: and also...

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/9b070c0b5265e292c60cd10276718187/tumblr_n7mkym1FVo1smcay7o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 22, 2014, 07:15:54 am
Enjoy the nostalgia.

(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/Lekkit/cartograph2.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 22, 2014, 11:14:34 am
eHalcyon, that all just amounts to a conspiracy theory. The movie hints at none of that. This ain't Inception, where the ending is left purposefully ambiguous. You (or someone else) has created this interpretation from whole cloth. If the movie really is trying to tell the story as you describe, it does a tremendously bad job of it.

I could say that the events of Groundhog Day all took place in the unhinged mind of Bill Murray's character. I could easily concoct a whole detailed description of what the events of the movie actually signified was happening in reality. It would all be internally consistent, but that wouldn't matter because the movie is already a work of fiction and that's not the story it's trying to tell.

I respectfully disagree.  I think there are multiple hints.  The closing narration is one hint, as is the very theme of the film itself.  I also noted the comment made by Algiers to Cutter, about not being backstage.  I think there are more.  But again, that's from what I remember on first viewing, which is why I want to watch it again.  This is the impression that the film left on me from the first viewing, and not just something come up with on reflection.  This theory occurred to me right when Tesla implied that he could build a machine to scientifically teleport somebody and it only grew stronger when when the cats and hats cloning was revealed.  I thought it had to be deception, and nothing I saw seemed contradictory to that theory.  I was only surprised that they didn't come right out and confirm the deception, but it fit the theme of the film to leave it ambiguous.

As for the comment to Cutter, you said that you thought it meant just for that one show (when Borden would be there).

I'll have to watch it again, but I remember Algiers telling Cutter that he didn't want him backstage "this time", for the last performance.  It implied that Cutter had been there before, but this particular performance was special.  It would be the last performance, the one where curiosity got the better of Borden and end with him framed for murder.

But that's just wrong. It's clear from the way the two are speaking that this is the first time they've met since Angiers's return and Angiers doesn't want Cutter backstage for any of these performances. He says "this time" because Cutter had been backstage for all of Angiers's other runs, the ones before he went to meet with Tesla.

Compare the movie's actual twist to the one you've concocted. The actual twist is that Borden is two different people. There are all sorts of hints to that throughout the movie (he acts radically differently toward the two women in his life depending on who he is; his wound suddenly gets worse as if he'd just sustained it; he immediately understands the goldfish bowl trick). The film gives you zero hints that the machine doesn't actually work. Your explanation involves Root coming back. That's not hinted at. You say the bodies in the tanks at the end are fakes. That also isn't hinted at. So as I said, if your story is meant to be the real one, the film does a spectacularly bad job at telling that story. On the other hand, it does a great job at telling the story it actually presents.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 22, 2014, 12:11:51 pm
(counter-arguments)

As I recall, Cutter met Algiers earlier, when he had returned and was setting up the theater.  Algiers even called upon Cutter for help from his contacts (one of whom to which he demonstrated the trick).  The comment about not wanting Cutter backstage is not made until the night of the performance where Borden was caught.

As for the lack of hints, I already listed a few hints that suggest that there is a trick, though there aren't so many hints as to how the trick was performed.  And that's how it should be for this kind of film.  For the former, I think I can find more when I watch it again.  Again, if they were really clones, it sounds like an enormous plot hole that Algiers would keep dozens of human bodies floating in tanks, where they should have been rotting and attracting attention from people at the theatre.  And even the closing narration suggests that there is a trick!  For the latter, by my theory, the film tells the story exactly as it wants to, fitting with several of its themes: illusion, misdirection, and deception.

Like any good film about magicians, it quickly establishes that there is no real magic.  There are only illusions.  This immediately suggests that there is more to the story than what we see, and it would be poor form for the film to spell it out to us, the audience.

Misdirection is a key part of magic acts.  Magicians get you to watch one thing ("are you watching closely?") when the real trick is happening elsewhere.  They may even let you think you've discovered the trick, just so you don't notice the mischief going on somewhere else.  Misdirection is key!  It's also key to the interaction between Algiers and Borden, and I believe it is key to the story behind the machine.

Borden misdirects Algiers by pointing him to Tesla, and he does it by letting Algiers think that he was the one that was two steps ahead.  Algiers thought he had stolen the diary with the help of his ex-assistant, but it was planted by Borden and she was in on it.  He thought he had forced Borden to give him the cypher key when that was Borden's plan all along.

In the prison, Borden misdirects a prison guard by performing a simple little trick.  The guard jeers when Borden appears to make a mistake, but it was all a distraction from the real trick -- slipping the chains and tying up the guard.

I believe Algiers misdirects Borden with his own act, both during the show and outside of the show, with the blind stage hands and moving of tanks, and later with his own fake diary.  And I believe that the film is misdirecting us in the way it presents the ending, showing us something astonishing and magical when the truth is much more mundane.  We are handed the explanations to many other tricks so that when no explanation is given for this final trick, we'd assume that the magic is real.

Finally, deception.  The old Chinese magician with the goldfish trick commits entirely to his deception of frailty in order to perform his trick successfully.  Borden commits entirely to his deception of being just one man, again to perform a very convincing illusion.  Tesla commits to his deception of having built Borden a teleportation machine (whether acting as an opportunist or having been tipped off by Borden previously) and keeps Algiers on the hook for two years, funding his research!  Algiers is deceptive as well, hiding his true identity and wealth from his colleagues until the very end.  Is it really a surprise that the film would deceive us in its final act?

I'd say that you are right -- the film does a great job at telling the story it presents... just like a magician!  And it's not that the film does a bad job at telling my version of the events.  Rather, the film does a great job at hiding that real story -- again, just like a magician.  My explanation may not be perfect, since it's little better than if I were to try to guess at how a magician performs his act IRL.  But that's not important.  The point is that the magic -- and the cloning -- was never real.  That's just the story we are sold.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 22, 2014, 12:38:20 pm
As much as I enjoy looking at big walls of spoilered texts, shouldn't this be in the movie thread ? Or a specific one ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 22, 2014, 12:41:19 pm
As much as I enjoy looking at big walls of spoilered texts, shouldn't this be in the movie thread ? Or a specific one ?

It's just random characters inside the spoiler tags.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on September 22, 2014, 01:48:12 pm
As much as I enjoy looking at big walls of spoilered texts, shouldn't this be in the movie thread ? Or a specific one ?

It's just random characters inside the spoiler tags.
That's one interpretation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 22, 2014, 02:08:24 pm

As I recall, Cutter met Algiers earlier, when he had returned and was setting up the theater.  Algiers even called upon Cutter for help from his contacts (one of whom to which he demonstrated the trick).  The comment about not wanting Cutter backstage is not made until the night of the performance where Borden was caught.

I should rewatch the movie too, but I'm 98% sure that's all one scene. They're setting up the theater and Angiers immediately tells Cutter that he doesn't want him backstage this time.

Finally, all those dead Algiers at the end.  I have two possible explanations right now, and I think there could be others.  One is that the bodies are fakes, maybe wax doubles, placed in the theatre by Cutter as admonishment for the murder of Root.  Heck, one of them might have been Root himself.  "Look at what you've done, Algiers!"

The second possibility is that they are fakes brought them by Algiers himself.  Algiers was at the theatre to destroy the machine to get rid of evidence -- specifically, the evidence that the machine was nothing more than a sparkly prop. Algiers was so committed to the clone deception that he not only had blind men moving water tanks, he even put fake doubles of himself in those tanks in case Borden went so far as to sneak a peek.  Now that his scheme was complete, all the fake bodies were brought back so that he could dispose of everything cleanly.


So, according to your theory, either Cutter or Angiers himself filled dozens of water tanks with wax duplicates of Angiers. First of all, that's way out of character for Cutter. His whole "revenge is a young man's game" seemed pretty heartfelt to me. And unlike Angiers, he almost certainly doesn't have the financial means to buy that many water tanks, let alone wax copies of Angiers to fill them all.

So that leaves the possibility that those duplicates were put there by Angiers just in case Borden happened to sneak a peek into that room. Why? "So committed to the deception" doesn't cut it. Angiers only needed Borden backstage near the actual water tank in order to have him arrested. In fact, a crazy distraction—like say easy access to a room filled with dead bodies—would tip Borden off or at least keep him from being where Angiers needed him to be. And if Borden was Angiers's intended audience, he certainly didn't need the tanks and duplicates after Borden was arrested and hanged. So tell me again why there was a room full of water tanks and duplicates of Angiers.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 22, 2014, 02:14:32 pm
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140922/log.512f4c81e4b08cb66ebe711c.1411408592556.txt (http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140922/log.512f4c81e4b08cb66ebe711c.1411408592556.txt)

random game report. I opened silver/masquerade, and for some reason I hit  5$ seven times during turns 3-8 with that opening. i kept thinking OH MY GOD I CAN'T BUY SILVER WITH 5$ WHAT DO I DO and OH MY GOD I WILL LOSE BECAUSE I DONT BUY ANY ECONOMY AND WILL NEVER GET GRAND MARKETS and OH MY GOD I HAVE SO MUCH LUCK AND DONT MAKE ANYTHING OUT OF IT. it was nerv wrecking, and it took nine turns until i could finally buy a second silver. dominion is really stressful sometimes...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 22, 2014, 02:19:35 pm
Some good points, but this has nothing to the Prestige, so there's nothing to see here.

Although in writing that, it occurs to me how easy it is to accidentally type [/soiler] which would hilariously fail to close the spoiler tag. And why isn't there a soiler tag? I demand satisfaction!

But what everybody has failed to mention is how much I love peanut butter. Man, that is some good food. I like peanut butter flavors too. Delicious!

You could disagree with me, but you'd be wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on September 22, 2014, 02:22:04 pm
Peanut butter must be the most american thing ever. I don't think I've ever seen peanut butter, let alone tasted it, and quite frankly the whole idea sounds thoroughly unappealing to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 22, 2014, 02:25:32 pm
Peanut butter must be the most american thing ever. I don't think I've ever seen peanut butter, let alone tasted it, and quite frankly the whole idea sounds thoroughly unappealing to me.

Nutella is tastier at first, but it didn't take me long to get tired of it. Peanut butter is forever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 22, 2014, 02:32:04 pm
Peanut butter must be the most american thing ever. I don't think I've ever seen peanut butter, let alone tasted it, and quite frankly the whole idea sounds thoroughly unappealing to me.

Congratulations on being wrong.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 22, 2014, 02:47:12 pm
There are some peanut butter that are less appealing than others.

I've actually come to really enjoy Reduced Fat Jif. I normally eschew reduced fat anything, but I tried this, and I prefer it to fatty peanut butter. Other peanut butter seem to be oily in comparison. I suppose they make up for it in that Jif by adding sugar, which may be another reason it tastes better to me.

I've been cutting down on the peanut butter as it is far too efficient at delivering calories to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on September 22, 2014, 02:50:56 pm
Natural / fresh peanut butter is truly a gift from the heavens.  Fresh almond butter too. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on September 22, 2014, 02:54:48 pm
Peanut butter must be the most american thing ever. I don't think I've ever seen peanut butter, let alone tasted it, and quite frankly the whole idea sounds thoroughly unappealing to me.

Congratulations on being wrong.
I didn't mean to bash on your beloved national treat, sorry for being unclear! As I said, I haven't even tried it ever. I was merely observing a big cultural difference. It's just not a thing here! I've never seen peanut butter in anyone's fridge in Finland, and it seems to be all the rave over there, big enough that people routinely mention it as a gift from heavens in random occasions.

I try not to eat bread, and I don't even like chocolate (enough to justify eating it), I didn't mean to start a competition on who has the best taste buds.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 22, 2014, 02:58:35 pm
Peanut butter must be the most american thing ever. I don't think I've ever seen peanut butter, let alone tasted it, and quite frankly the whole idea sounds thoroughly unappealing to me.

Congratulations on being wrong.
I didn't mean to bash on your beloved national treat, sorry for being unclear! As I said, I haven't even tried it ever. I was merely observing a big cultural difference. It's just not a thing here! I've never seen peanut butter in anyone's fridge in Finland, and it seems to be all the rave over there, big enough that people routinely mention it as a gift from heavens in random occasions.

I try not to eat bread, and I don't even like chocolate (enough to justify eating it), I didn't mean to start a competition on who has the best taste buds.

Peanut butter goes well with apples :P

Peanut butter is gift from the gods.  Ancient Greek "Ambrosia" translates roughly to "creamy buttery substance made from mashing up peanuts".[Citation needed]
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 22, 2014, 03:13:36 pm
I tried vegemite once. It wasn't for me, but it seems to be a fave with the Aussies…at least according to American media, which routinely reinforces stereotypes like the English having bad teeth, Germans being frightening, and American Chinese restaurants serving dog.

I watched an episode of Chopped where one of the mystery ingredients was cricket flour. I had hoped that maybe it was flour that cricket players use on their bats when they don't have talcum powder, but nope. Flour made from crickets. I suppose I would eat it, but it does strike me as an odd food option. Might be the best option in some places.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 22, 2014, 03:15:05 pm
Same as Eevee here, peanut butter barely exists in France. We're all about Nutella here.

And peanut butter sounds disgusting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 22, 2014, 03:16:05 pm
Same as Eevee here, peanut butter barely exists in France. We're all about Nutella here.

And peanut butter sounds disgusting.

you mean the word?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 22, 2014, 03:23:07 pm
The description of it. I don't think I've ever actually seen it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 22, 2014, 03:23:35 pm
brummm
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 22, 2014, 03:30:12 pm
Perhaps the discussion should be forked to its own thread.

So tell me again why there was a room full of water tanks and duplicates of Angiers.

I watched the movie more recently, so I stand by my statement that those were separate scenes.  But I intend to rewatch the movie sometime this week, and I'll report back. :P

As for my explanation on why the duplicates where there, I gave an explanation in my first long post.  Cutter could have done it, not as revenge, but as admonishment.  Perhaps the financials wouldn't work out after all, but there could be other explanations.  Maybe he found where Algiers had been stashing all the tanks from his earlier performances and had them moved back.

Alternatively, Algiers could have had the fake tanks moved back to the theater himself, for evidence disposal.  Maybe he'd planned to burn everything to the ground, duplicates, machine, theater and all.

But even if these explanations aren't satisfactory, they don't need to be for my theory.  For the clone theory, the fact that there is no reasonable explanation for having all those bodies returned to the theater is a plot hole.  I ask you, why is there a room full of water tanks and dead clones of Angiers?  He'd had them all moved off site.  If they were actual clones, he surely would have had them disposed of as well.

The point is, the film is itself a magic trick.  I couldn't tell you how Penn and Teller do their tricks, but I know it's all sleight of hand, misdirection and illusion.  The same is true here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 22, 2014, 03:32:34 pm
Peanut butter must be the most american thing ever. I don't think I've ever seen peanut butter, let alone tasted it, and quite frankly the whole idea sounds thoroughly unappealing to me.

Congratulations on being wrong.
I didn't mean to bash on your beloved national treat, sorry for being unclear! As I said, I haven't even tried it ever. I was merely observing a big cultural difference. It's just not a thing here! I've never seen peanut butter in anyone's fridge in Finland, and it seems to be all the rave over there, big enough that people routinely mention it as a gift from heavens in random occasions.

I try not to eat bread, and I don't even like chocolate (enough to justify eating it), I didn't mean to start a competition on who has the best taste buds.

Peanut butter goes well with apples :P

Peanut butter is gift from the gods.  Ancient Greek "Ambrosia" translates roughly to "creamy buttery substance made from mashing up peanuts".[Citation needed]

I took ancient greek in college.  I can confirm this[citation needed]
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 22, 2014, 03:35:22 pm
I find it odd that having not tried it appears to equate with finding the thought of it disgusting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 22, 2014, 03:36:44 pm
Well, have you ever eaten worms?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on September 22, 2014, 03:39:15 pm
I find it odd that having not tried it appears to equate with finding the thought of it disgusting.
Well, on the flip side, if I found the idea appealing, surely I would have made the effort of finding some at some point in my life?

Also, it doesn't seem to be a good habit to develop. It sounds kind of unhealthy? I don't want to start liking something unhealthy if I'm perfectly happy without it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 22, 2014, 03:40:12 pm
Well, have you ever eaten worms?

Only of the variety Lumbricus gummicus.

Granted, they are still fairly disgusting.

(http://consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/largest-gummy-worm.gif?w=680)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 22, 2014, 03:40:55 pm
Well, have you ever eaten worms?

Well, nobody loves me and everybody hates me. So yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 22, 2014, 04:00:59 pm
Perhaps the discussion should be forked to its own thread.

So tell me again why there was a room full of water tanks and duplicates of Angiers.

I watched the movie more recently, so I stand by my statement that those were separate scenes.  But I intend to rewatch the movie sometime this week, and I'll report back. :P

As for my explanation on why the duplicates where there, I gave an explanation in my first long post.  Cutter could have done it, not as revenge, but as admonishment.  Perhaps the financials wouldn't work out after all, but there could be other explanations.  Maybe he found where Algiers had been stashing all the tanks from his earlier performances and had them moved back.

Alternatively, Algiers could have had the fake tanks moved back to the theater himself, for evidence disposal.  Maybe he'd planned to burn everything to the ground, duplicates, machine, theater and all.

But even if these explanations aren't satisfactory, they don't need to be for my theory.  For the clone theory, the fact that there is no reasonable explanation for having all those bodies returned to the theater is a plot hole.  I ask you, why is there a room full of water tanks and dead clones of Angiers?  He'd had them all moved off site.  If they were actual clones, he surely would have had them disposed of as well.

The point is, the film is itself a magic trick.  I couldn't tell you how Penn and Teller do their tricks, but I know it's all sleight of hand, misdirection and illusion.  The same is true here.


I don't think he'd moved them off-site at all. I'm pretty sure the reason they were all in the theater is because he couldn't risk moving them out, at least not one per day. When is it revealed that the tanks left the theater?

You're looking at all this from the wrong direction. Why was there more than one tank in the first place? Again, it can't have been for Borden's benefit, because seeing them might have kept him from being where Angier needed him to be. Angier only needed one tank to drown Root, if that indeed what was happening. So why did all those tanks exist?


The reason that I'm arguing all this is that I think of you as an intelligent person and I hate to see you succumbing to conspiracy theories, even concerning a work of fiction. Because that's exactly what's going on here. You want to believe something, so you're inventing a convoluted story that has no facts to back it up.

I agree that it would be interesting and appropriate if there were some hidden side to the events of the film, but I'm not buying any of the versions you've proposed because there's zero hard evidence to support any of it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 22, 2014, 04:48:34 pm
I don't think he'd moved them off-site at all. I'm pretty sure the reason they were all in the theater is because he couldn't risk moving them out, at least not one per day. When is it revealed that the tanks left the theater?

You're looking at all this from the wrong direction. Why was there more than one tank in the first place? Again, it can't have been for Borden's benefit, because seeing them might have kept him from being where Angier needed him to be. Angier only needed one tank to drown Root, if that indeed what was happening. So why did all those tanks exist?


The reason that I'm arguing all this is that I think of you as an intelligent person and I hate to see you succumbing to conspiracy theories, even concerning a work of fiction. Because that's exactly what's going on here. You want to believe something, so you're inventing a convoluted story that has no facts to back it up.

I agree that it would be interesting and appropriate if there were some hidden side to the events of the film, but I'm not buying any of the versions you've proposed because there's zero hard evidence to support any of it.

I'm pretty sure they were moved off site.  It was an actual plot point.  Borden and Fallon were discussing how Algiers did his new version of the Transported Man.  They noted that the stage hands were blind (presumably so that they could not see the "clones") and Borden/Fallon watched them move a water tank away from the theater.  They specifically noted that this was done after every performance.  They were completely confounded as to the purpose of it all.

The purpose was, of course, to misdirect Borden.  While he obsessed about these enigmatic details, he could not see that it was really the exact same trick with a body double.


This is not a conspiracy theory.  It's fully valid, matching the themes of the film (not to mention the history of the director).

But again, I'll rewatch the film and take notes.  Maybe I misunderstood some parts the first time around.  I think you're misremembering some things yourself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 22, 2014, 04:56:22 pm
LF, shouldn't you at least rewatch the movie before you claim that there are no hints to the theory?

or did you rewatch it recently?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 22, 2014, 05:00:05 pm
LF, shouldn't you at least rewatch the movie before you claim that there are no hints to the theory?

or did you rewatch it recently?

I have seen it several times, but not as recently as eHalcyon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 22, 2014, 05:09:31 pm
I'm pretty sure they were moved off site.  It was an actual plot point.  Borden and Fallon were discussing how Algiers did his new version of the Transported Man.  They noted that the stage hands were blind (presumably so that they could not see the "clones") and Borden/Fallon watched them move a water tank away from the theater.  They specifically noted that this was done after every performance.  They were completely confounded as to the purpose of it all.

The purpose was, of course, to misdirect Borden.  While he obsessed about these enigmatic details, he could not see that it was really the exact same trick with a body double.

Man, that is a good call. I remember that conversation between Fallon and Borden now. Are we sure that the scene where Borden shoots Angier is in the theater, though? It's not just in a warehouse somewhere? Maybe the tanks were just never moved back. Anyway, that potentially explains why there would be multiple tanks: piquing Borden's curiosity. But does it explain why each one had an Angier duplicate in it? I suppose in case Borden decided to pay the warehouse a visit before sneaking backstage for the trick. But what would he have done if he found the tanks? Maybe he wouldn't have snuck backstage, realizing it was all a trick. Probably empty tanks would have been more likely to make him sneak backstage, since they would provide no clues as to how the trick was performed. But it's tough to say.

Anyhow, another question is, if it was Root that was drowned, how did Angier know which show to do it in? He only had one shot at that. Sure, he could maybe spot Borden and tell the stagehands to put the tank under the stage, but there's no guarantee that Borden would sneak backstage the first time he saw the act. In fact, he probably wouldn't. Oh, but wait. Borden volunteered for the act that time, right? So it's conceivable that Angier would have time to somehow tip off the stagehands while that trick was being performed. Hmm…
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 22, 2014, 05:31:12 pm
I'm pretty sure they were moved off site.  It was an actual plot point.  Borden and Fallon were discussing how Algiers did his new version of the Transported Man.  They noted that the stage hands were blind (presumably so that they could not see the "clones") and Borden/Fallon watched them move a water tank away from the theater.  They specifically noted that this was done after every performance.  They were completely confounded as to the purpose of it all.

The purpose was, of course, to misdirect Borden.  While he obsessed about these enigmatic details, he could not see that it was really the exact same trick with a body double.

Man, that is a good call. I remember that conversation between Fallon and Borden now. Are we sure that the scene where Borden shoots Angier is in the theater, though? It's not just in a warehouse somewhere? Maybe the tanks were just never moved back. Anyway, that potentially explains why there would be multiple tanks: piquing Borden's curiosity. But does it explain why each one had an Angier duplicate in it? I suppose in case Borden decided to pay the warehouse a visit before sneaking backstage for the trick. But what would he have done if he found the tanks? Maybe he wouldn't have snuck backstage, realizing it was all a trick. Probably empty tanks would have been more likely to make him sneak backstage, since they would provide no clues as to how the trick was performed. But it's tough to say.

Anyhow, another question is, if it was Root that was drowned, how did Angier know which show to do it in? He only had one shot at that. Sure, he could maybe spot Borden and tell the stagehands to put the tank under the stage, but there's no guarantee that Borden would sneak backstage the first time he saw the act. In fact, he probably wouldn't. Oh, but wait. Borden volunteered for the act that time, right? So it's conceivable that Angier would have time to somehow tip off the stagehands while that trick was being performed. Hmm…


I reported my first post about The Prestige in this thread, to ask theory to fork the discussion to its own thread.

I think it's in the theatre because Cutter was there and walked out afterwards, even recognizing Borden/Fallon on his way out.  But that's something I'll need to confirm on rewatching.

I think Angiers could have put a duplicate in each tank before moving it out of the theater so that there would be something to see if Borden had tried to sneak a peek at one of them while it was getting moved out.

If Borden saw it he'd probably be even more confused and sneak back stage to see.  But it's hard to say.

Re: how Angier knew which show to do it, yes Borden volunteered that time.  I have an answer that needs re-watching to confirm, but the same question can be posed to the clone theory.  Suppose Angiers was drowning a clone every show in hopes that Borden would sneak back stage and trigger the trap.  How does the living Angiers know that he should hide and let everybody think he had died in the tank?  If you can answer that, the same answer could probably be used for drowning Root.  If there is no satisfactory answer for either case, then I count it a plot hole for the clone theory and just another mystery for my theory.

My current idea is based on the fact that Angiers specifically scheduled exactly 100 shows.  No more, no less.  I think Borden and Fallon debated about that point as well.  My theory is that the 100 days was motivated by how long he thought he could keep Root on a leash and also to put a clock on Borden to act.  Borden tried to leave well enough alone, but he couldn't resist sneaking back stage for the final performance, since it was his last chance to find out Angiers' secret.  For his part, Angiers would have kept an eye out for Borden and perhaps would have drowned Root whether or not Borden got himself involved.  Last show, last chance.  And the plan to drown Root is also why he told Cutter not to go backstage.

Whether it was actually the last performance is something I'd need to check for when rewatching.

I'd also want to confirm that they were wheeling water tanks out of the theater.  It's possible that I misunderstood and they where actually wheeling tanks in.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 22, 2014, 07:17:06 pm
eHalc: I really love the theory, I really do.  It makes a lot of things make a lot more sense.

I actually typed that up with the intention of bringing up a point that disproves it... However, thinking about it it doesn't.  Anyways, my point was at the very end when Angier is dying, Cutter walks up and reminds Angier of what he had told him when his wife died: That he had told him a story of a sailor who drowned and came back and the sailor said that it was the most peaceful death, like falling asleep.  And then he tells Angier that he lied and the sailor actually said that it was hell.  When Angier hears this he has a look of pure horror on his face and I wanted to attribute that to the clone theory because he was able to walk into the machine every night knowing that he was killing himself peacefully or you know, in the same way as his wife.  But thinking about it he could have had that same look feeling sorry for the way he killed Root.  Or just how that thought has given him some comfort all these years and Cutter was taking that away.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 22, 2014, 07:22:17 pm
Well, have you ever eaten worms?
Actually, yes.  I have eaten rice crispy treats with mealworms on them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on September 22, 2014, 07:50:07 pm
I think peanut butter tastes pretty bad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 22, 2014, 07:58:02 pm
I think peanut butter tastes pretty bad.

^ This
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 22, 2014, 09:36:40 pm
I think peanut butter tastes pretty bad.

^ This

Fine.  Give me all your peanut butters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Donald X. on September 22, 2014, 10:09:31 pm
The Prestige was based on a book. The book does not leave any question as to what was a trick.

You can say, so what, the screenwriters meant something different. Man I didn't catch any of that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 22, 2014, 10:47:11 pm
The Prestige was based on a book. The book does not leave any question as to what was a trick.

You can say, so what, the screenwriters meant something different. Man I didn't catch any of that.

I'm aware of that!  But the book went much further with it.  The film barely delves into the sci-fi/fantasy storyline, making it stand out like a sore thumb and leaving open an alternative explanation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 22, 2014, 11:01:13 pm
Can we at least all agree on that it was an amazing movie?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 23, 2014, 12:22:28 am
Can we at least all agree on that it was an amazing movie?

I can't agree, because I haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Dsell on September 23, 2014, 12:37:03 am
Can we at least all agree on that it was an amazing movie?

I would say this, but the last time I praised a Nolan movie I got called names. :o
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 12:58:41 am
it's 7am. i can't sleep.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 01:02:50 am
Can we at least all agree on that it was an amazing movie?

I would say this, but the last time I praised a Nolan movie I got called names. :o

well I've seen all of his movies except the first one I think, and all of them were great.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Dsell on September 23, 2014, 08:39:56 am
Can we at least all agree on that it was an amazing movie?

I would say this, but the last time I praised a Nolan movie I got called names. :o

well I've seen all of his movies except the first one I think, and all of them were great.

You can't say that 'round these parts! Danger! Danger!!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 23, 2014, 09:08:36 am
Can we at least all agree on that it was an amazing movie?

I would say this, but the last time I praised a Nolan movie I got called names. :o

well I've seen all of his movies except the first one I think, and all of them were great.

You can't say that 'round these parts! Danger! Danger!!

Geez, man. What happened last time? I am willing to say right now that his movies are generally fantastic.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ConMan on September 23, 2014, 10:33:38 am
I tried vegemite once. It wasn't for me, but it seems to be a fave with the Aussies…at least according to American media, which routinely reinforces stereotypes like the English having bad teeth, Germans being frightening, and American Chinese restaurants serving dog.
I would say that Vegemite is *more* popular among Australians than anyone else, and it definitely is quite popular over here. I find I only really eat it when I've been ill and want something nostalgic and nourishing. Interestingly, while it was originally designed as a competitor to Marmite, it's rare to find someone who enjoys the taste of both products. There's also the whole "Vegemite is owned by Kraft which is American" thing that spawned a product called Ozemite (Aussie-mite) that I've never tasted so I won't try to compare it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 23, 2014, 10:46:16 am
at least according to American media, which routinely reinforces stereotypes like the English having bad teeth, Germans being frightening, and American Chinese restaurants serving dog.
At least I understand why someone would think the last one is true, but what's up with the other two?  ???
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 23, 2014, 10:53:12 am
The Prestige was based on a book. The book does not leave any question as to what was a trick.

You can say, so what, the screenwriters meant something different. Man I didn't catch any of that.

The book was just part of living the illusion.  The ultimate trick was pulled off by the writer, ultimately intending a different interpretation through the movie.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 23, 2014, 10:58:11 am
Peanut butter is tasty. Nutella is tasty. Vegimite and marmite is pretty yucky. That marshmallow fluff is mainly weird, but doesn't taste bad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 23, 2014, 10:59:21 am
Peanut butter is tasty. Nutella is tasty. Vegimite and marmite is pretty yucky. That marshmallow fluff is mainly weird, but doesn't taste bad.

This sounds pretty definitive to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 23, 2014, 11:14:04 am
Peanut butter is tasty. Nutella is tasty. Vegimite and marmite is pretty yucky. That marshmallow fluff is mainly weird, but doesn't taste bad.
mmmm... fluffernutter...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 23, 2014, 11:19:12 am
Peanut butter is tasty. Nutella is tasty. Vegimite and marmite is pretty yucky. That marshmallow fluff is mainly weird, but doesn't taste bad.

Nutella is the god of all tasty spreads.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 23, 2014, 11:50:20 am
Peanut butter is tasty. Nutella is tasty. Vegimite and marmite is pretty yucky. That marshmallow fluff is mainly weird, but doesn't taste bad.

Nutella is the god of all tasty spreads.

...because it is almost entirely fat and sugar.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 23, 2014, 12:13:53 pm
at least according to American media, which routinely reinforces stereotypes like the English having bad teeth, Germans being frightening, and American Chinese restaurants serving dog.
At least I understand why someone would think the last one is true, but what's up with the other two?  ???

I read a little bit on why, and if I had time, I could find that article and link it. It might be on Snopes.

The important thing to note is that crooked teeth are not a sign of bad oral hygiene. Maybe it's because Americans have this obsession with beauty, and we throw all our kids in braces (who can afford it) at the first sign of crookedness. And certainly I recall some pictures of Brits with wonky teeth. The article points out that Brits actually have one of the best oral hygiene rates, so the joke's on us.

I'm not sure if German just sounds angry normally or if it's an association with Hitler's speeches. Aside from hanging out with actual Germans, I think Americans get their exposure to Hitler speeches, which are certainly passionate. I'm sure most of his speeches were not about "Kill everyone you find and murder their children." I bet a lot of them were the same kind of speeches other leaders give to boost morale. But there is forever the dark cloud of the Holocaust looming over those speeches, so even though I bet 0% of his speeches involved, "Fire up the ovens," history has forever overlaid that sentiment on his speeches.

Now I've heard German being spoken in nice conversant tones, and it's not frightening, but nobody keeps track of nonthreatening speech. Hitler, however, stands out and is a continual black eye in the realm of stereotypes. There does seem to be a bit more throatiness when I hear German versus Spanish, Japanese, or French. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 23, 2014, 12:31:25 pm
Peanut butter is tasty. Nutella is tasty. Vegimite and marmite is pretty yucky. That marshmallow fluff is mainly weird, but doesn't taste bad.

Nutella is the god of all tasty spreads.

...because it is almost entirely fat and sugar.

That's entirely beside the point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 12:35:35 pm
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That's entirely [...] the point.
cool
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 12:50:18 pm
@Kuildeous : Yes, German's rputation as a language is largely related to the fact that the first German words most people hear are Hitler's speeches.

Not only is that horrible because Hitler was, well, Hitler, but even worse : he was Austrian. With a strong accent. Not a pleasant accent in any situation, even worse when it's an angry dictator screaming about the Jews.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 23, 2014, 02:25:33 pm
@Kuildeous : Yes, German's reputation as a language is largely related to the fact that the first German words most people hear are Hitler's speeches.

That or youtube videos like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlATOHGj9EY
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 04:29:18 pm
The butterfly example is one I've used countless times as a joke (it's a great one because there aren't that many words that are different in French, Italian, Spanish, German AND English), because yeah, German is a guttural language.

I know it's weird but I find it beautiful for its structures. I just love how sentences in German sound, it's... I don't know, fluid.

Is this a good time to say I hate the English language ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 23, 2014, 04:36:25 pm
I think French sounds very weird and aggressive. And kind of ugly. Most people don't agree with me. And also, I don't mean it as an insult to the French speakers. It's just that I don't find it very nice to listen to.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 04:39:15 pm
I think French sounds very weird and aggressive. And kind of ugly. Most people don't agree with me. And also, I don't mean it as an insult to the French speakers. It's just that I don't find it very nice to listen to.

Comment oses-tu ?

Obviously I don't mean it as an insult either when I say I hate English. And it might be an overstatement, but I never, ever, hear or read a sentence in English and think "that's a beautiful way of saying it". Which I do often in French and German.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 04:51:21 pm
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And it might be an overstatement, but I never, ever, hear or read a sentence in English and think "that's a beautiful way of saying it". Which I do often in French and German.
man, I think the exact opposite is true. well, I don't know about french, because I don't speak it well enough, but sentence structure in german really sucks. it's so much better in English.

It enlightened my deafened scream,
Where hatred was reigning supreme,
Thus switching ways, inverting nights and days
And breaking the walls of my rational maze.


it's impossible to even write german poetry that sounds this good. if you try it, and I had to in school n stuff, it sounds lengthy, awkward, and forced. german. sucks. not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 23, 2014, 04:58:21 pm
not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.

Well, that's because English aggressively steals words from other languages. If we don't have a word for something, we find a language that does.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 23, 2014, 05:25:31 pm
not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.

Well, that's because English aggressively steals words from other languages. If we don't have a word for something, we find a language that does.

e.g. schadenfreude
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 05:34:48 pm
gemüdlich is another German word that doesn't really exist in French (or in English AFAIK).

Every language has these little untranslatable words.

I think I like German because I like long, complicated sentences. I dislike English for its relative grammatic simplicity.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 05:35:06 pm
not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.

Well, that's because English aggressively steals words from other languages. If we don't have a word for something, we find a language that does.

All languages do that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on September 23, 2014, 05:36:44 pm
Languages?

Latin is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 23, 2014, 05:42:03 pm
not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.

Well, that's because English aggressively steals words from other languages. If we don't have a word for something, we find a language that does.

All languages do that.

I have heard tell that French in particular does not. That there is a movement to keep French pure. Is this not the case?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 23, 2014, 05:42:27 pm
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And it might be an overstatement, but I never, ever, hear or read a sentence in English and think "that's a beautiful way of saying it". Which I do often in French and German.
man, I think the exact opposite is true. well, I don't know about french, because I don't speak it well enough, but sentence structure in german really sucks. it's so much better in English.

It enlightened my deafened scream,
Where hatred was reigning supreme,
Thus switching ways, inverting nights and days
And breaking the walls of my rational maze.


it's impossible to even write german poetry that sounds this good. if you try it, and I had to in school n stuff, it sounds lengthy, awkward, and forced. german. sucks. not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.
If you "have to try" writing poems, of course it's going to sound horrible regardless of the language. If they told everyone at school to compose a funk song, would you compare them with Mirrorthrone and conclude that symphonic black metal is better than funk?

My favorite languages are Dutch and Chinese. I can't speak either language and understand very little of both, but they sound incredibly awesome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 05:46:21 pm
it's impossible to even write german poetry that sounds this good. if you try it, and I had to in school n stuff, it sounds lengthy, awkward, and forced.

Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind ?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm
Er fasst ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.

[...]

Mein Vater, mein Vater, und siehst du nicht dort
Erlkönigs Töchter am düsteren Ort ? –
Mein Sohn, mein Sohn, ich seh’ es genau,
Es scheinen die alten Weiden so grau. –

„Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine schöne Gestalt,
Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt !“


I mean, tastes are what they are, but there is gorgeous poetry in German.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 05:49:51 pm
not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.

Well, that's because English aggressively steals words from other languages. If we don't have a word for something, we find a language that does.

All languages do that.

I have heard tell that French in particular does not. That there is a movement to keep French pure. Is this not the case?

People bitch about the "intrusion" of English words in the French language yeah, but it's utterly stupid and mostly without effect. We have adopted a lot of English words. Then the Académie Française comes up with French words for "hashtag" or "marketing", and no one uses them.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on September 23, 2014, 06:02:50 pm
Is this a good time to say I hate the English language ?

Yes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 23, 2014, 06:27:05 pm
Languages?

Latin is pretty cool.

No way, when it comes to ancient languages greek is so much better than Latin.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 23, 2014, 06:27:49 pm
Languages?

Latin is pretty cool.

No way, when it comes to ancient languages greek is so much better than Latin.

Definitely.  Greeks had a word for peanut butter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 23, 2014, 06:44:47 pm
Languages?

Latin is pretty cool.

No way, when it comes to ancient languages greek is so much better than Latin.

Definitely.  Greeks had a word for peanut butter.

It's true. I heard it from a pretty credible source.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 06:45:39 pm
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gemüdlich
*gemütlich :P

and... comfortable?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 06:48:52 pm
it's impossible to even write german poetry that sounds this good. if you try it, and I had to in school n stuff, it sounds lengthy, awkward, and forced.

Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind ?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm
Er fasst ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.

[...]

Mein Vater, mein Vater, und siehst du nicht dort
Erlkönigs Töchter am düsteren Ort ? –
Mein Sohn, mein Sohn, ich seh’ es genau,
Es scheinen die alten Weiden so grau. –

„Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine schöne Gestalt,
Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt !“


I mean, tastes are what they are, but there is gorgeous poetry in German.

actually, this is probably the poem that I was going to use in response to Awaclus' post.  this is established german poetry, and, well, I wouldn't describe it as gorgeous. this specific poem to me is particularly unimpressive, because it uses dialogue that noone would ever say in this way. It doesn't feel believable. and it doesn't read well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 23, 2014, 07:03:06 pm
Poetry isn't really concerning itself with sounding believable, that's entirely beside the point...

I've been spelling gemütlich wrong for a while apparently. Comfortable is what comes closest to it, but you'll agree that it's not exactly it ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on September 23, 2014, 07:07:37 pm
My language could beat up your language
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 07:13:21 pm
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Poetry isn't really concerning itself with sounding believable, that's entirely beside the point...

that completely depends on the perceiving perspective. I read this poem, and I can't stand the dialogue, that takes me out of the experience. though I'm of course biased because this is a classic piece to cover in school.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 23, 2014, 07:52:57 pm
I really like English for its huge variety of potential words for similar concepts that allows for a number of nuanced meanings. It is, of course, difficult for me to compare other languages, since I speak none very well and certainly no where close to as well as I know English.

My perception though (and please someone with more data correct me if I'm wrong), is that English has made a habit of stealing words from other languages (much more so than other languages) and was already a mash of romance languages onto some kind of old German to begin with (which just makes English spelling a nightmare). I think this means that English usually has a wider variety of words to express the nuances of a topic. My dad used to live in the Netherlands, and commented that Dutch seemed to have far fewer words to express things. Of course, his opinion might also have been colored by being a native English speaker.

English still has a number of failings though. The one that most bothers me is the huge number of meanings for "love": which can express the type of feeling you have for a restaurant you've visited a few times, for your family, or for someone with whom you are romantically involved (with the whole aspect of sexuality). The confusion and apprehension this linguistic failing creates is extraordinarily frustrating.


Also I'm taking Elementary German this semester and enjoying it a fair bit. Except for genders. Those just seem entirely arbitrary.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on September 23, 2014, 08:09:55 pm
Languages?

Latin is pretty cool.

No way, when it comes to ancient languages greek is so much better than Latin.
I believe you. Latin's still pretty cool though.

(haven't studied ancient greek, have studied latin).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 08:13:44 pm
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I've been spelling gemütlich wrong for a while apparently. Comfortable is what comes closest to it, but you'll agree that it's not exactly it ?

I'm... not sure. I think it's pretty safe to assume that I know exactly what gemütlich means. I use comfortable pretty much as a synonym.

where do you think lies the difference?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on September 23, 2014, 09:16:39 pm
If "gemütlich" doesn't exist in english, what does Baloo sing in the jungle book?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 23, 2014, 09:31:15 pm
it's impossible to even write german poetry that sounds this good. if you try it, and I had to in school n stuff, it sounds lengthy, awkward, and forced.

Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind ?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm
Er fasst ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.

[...]

Mein Vater, mein Vater, und siehst du nicht dort
Erlkönigs Töchter am düsteren Ort ? –
Mein Sohn, mein Sohn, ich seh’ es genau,
Es scheinen die alten Weiden so grau. –

„Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine schöne Gestalt,
Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt !“


I mean, tastes are what they are, but there is gorgeous poetry in German.

actually, this is probably the poem that I was going to use in response to Awaclus' post.  this is established german poetry, and, well, I wouldn't describe it as gorgeous. this specific poem to me is particularly unimpressive, because it uses dialogue that noone would ever say in this way. It doesn't feel believable. and it doesn't read well.

Would you prefer some Nena?

Neunundnuenzig Kriegsminister
Streichholz und Benzinkanister
Hielten sich für schlaue Leute
Witterten schon fette Beute
Riefen Krieg und wollten Macht
Mann, wer hätte das gedacht
Dass es einmal soweit kommt
Wegen neunundneunzig Luftballons
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 23, 2014, 09:48:56 pm
well, it sounds clunky and somewhat awkward. for a poem that doesn't take itself seriously and is mostly meant to be funny, that's not a bad thing. these kinds of poems work decently I'd say.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ConMan on September 23, 2014, 10:07:02 pm
not to  mention that there are words in english that are literally missing in german.

Well, that's because English aggressively steals words from other languages. If we don't have a word for something, we find a language that does.

All languages do that.

I have heard tell that French in particular does not. That there is a movement to keep French pure. Is this not the case?

People bitch about the "intrusion" of English words in the French language yeah, but it's utterly stupid and mostly without effect. We have adopted a lot of English words. Then the Académie Française comes up with French words for "hashtag" or "marketing", and no one uses them.
That's what I'd heard from my fiancée (whose course on language policy last semester used France as a case study). So there's a political (or at least organisational) push to create some kind of "pure" French, but it's not really reflected in society's use of the language. Similar to attempts in other countries to create some kind of national language and force local dialects out.

In terms of which languages sound "nicer" than others, I think German sounds angrier because it I always think of it as having a lot of hard or abrasive consonant sounds like "t", "d" and "sch", whereas a language like French tends to evoke softer sounds (like "ll" which is pronounced almost like a "y" sound). I also find many Chinese dialects sound angry to some extent (Cantonese more than Mandarin), and there a lot of the words are very syllabic which probably produces a very short, curt sounding language.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Archetype on September 23, 2014, 11:03:19 pm
My language could beat up your language
Them's fighting words.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Polk5440 on September 23, 2014, 11:04:37 pm
Peanut butter is my go-to example of foods that should NOT be natural. It tastes worse than regular and separates. You mean every time I open a jar I have to stir it? No thank you.

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 23, 2014, 11:50:55 pm
Speaking of schadenfreude, I saw a video posted of a toddler "playing" with an iguana. I use quotes because the child smacked the lizard around and roughly manhandled it to the point that I feared for some snapped bones. Then he proceeded to taunt it by waving his finger in front of its mouth. Finally, it got a lucky strike and latched right onto that little shit's finger. I generally do not like the sound of children wailing, but this was actually welcomed.

And then I was wondering, "Who the fuck videos a child abusing an animal without interference?"

I hope that child learned a lesson about the iguana, but he clearly has some shitty role models, so he has a long ways to go to learn to be a decent human. I hope he can overcome his environment.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on September 24, 2014, 12:03:14 am
English still has a number of failings though. The one that most bothers me is the huge number of meanings for "love": which can express the type of feeling you have for a restaurant you've visited a few times, for your family, or for someone with whom you are romantically involved (with the whole aspect of sexuality). The confusion and apprehension this linguistic failing creates is extraordinarily frustrating.

Especially when my main definition is to choose to put another's needs above your own (a.k.a. not a feeling at all (of course, there are other definitions which are feelings that I use)).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 24, 2014, 05:51:24 am
I've heard that Icelandic doesn't borrow words. If they need a new word, they either make one up or translates a foreign one. I'm not sure if this is true or not. But they have some very weird words.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 24, 2014, 07:18:02 am
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I've been spelling gemütlich wrong for a while apparently. Comfortable is what comes closest to it, but you'll agree that it's not exactly it ?

I'm... not sure. I think it's pretty safe to assume that I know exactly what gemütlich means. I use comfortable pretty much as a synonym.

where do you think lies the difference?

gemütlich has a notion of warmth associated with it, and the idea of "home". So it's more precise than just "comfortable". I would translate comfrotable as bequem in most situations. You couldn't apply gemütlich to something like "comfort food" for example, nor would you say that your seat in a hotel is gemütlich. You would probably bequem (or komfortabel for that matter).

Maybe that's just where I lived (Bonn) and the word has a simpler meaning elsewhere, but I'm pretty sure I've heard gemütlich being referred to as untranslateable by other people.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 24, 2014, 09:11:45 am
Read this coincidentally yesterday and seems apropos:
http://boingboing.net/2014/09/22/ten-untranslatable-words.html
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 24, 2014, 11:21:10 am
Read this coincidentally yesterday and seems apropos:
http://boingboing.net/2014/09/22/ten-untranslatable-words.html

They should have included the language, hm.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 24, 2014, 11:30:32 am
Mångata and Tretår is Swedish.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 24, 2014, 01:32:14 pm
Read this coincidentally yesterday and seems apropos:
http://boingboing.net/2014/09/22/ten-untranslatable-words.html

They should have included the language, hm.
They should have included a readable font.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 24, 2014, 01:34:36 pm
challenge: find an edgecase where the order in which you put your own cards back with oracle matters

there is none                                                                 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 24, 2014, 01:38:20 pm
challenge: find an edgecase where the order in which you put your own cards back with oracle matters

there is none                                                                 

New reaction card with condition "When you put a card on top of your deck" or "When you would put a card on top of your deck".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 24, 2014, 01:49:06 pm
challenge: find an edgecase where the order in which you put your own cards back with oracle matters

there is none                                                                 

New reaction card with condition "When you put a card on top of your deck" or "When you would put a card on top of your deck".

this is very useful (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=114.msg423473#msg423473)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 24, 2014, 02:24:33 pm
Hypothesis: It is mathematically impossible for a person to remain or get angry whilst listening to "Mr. Blue Sky."

Rebuttals and confirmations welcome.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 24, 2014, 02:26:13 pm
Hypothesis: It is mathematically impossible for a person to remain or get angry whilst listening to "Mr. Blue Sky."

Rebuttals and confirmations welcome.

The old dude form A Clockwork Orange thought the same thing about "Singing in the Rain".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 24, 2014, 05:24:10 pm
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I've been spelling gemütlich wrong for a while apparently. Comfortable is what comes closest to it, but you'll agree that it's not exactly it ?

I'm... not sure. I think it's pretty safe to assume that I know exactly what gemütlich means. I use comfortable pretty much as a synonym.

where do you think lies the difference?

gemütlich has a notion of warmth associated with it, and the idea of "home". So it's more precise than just "comfortable". I would translate comfrotable as bequem in most situations. You couldn't apply gemütlich to something like "comfort food" for example, nor would you say that your seat in a hotel is gemütlich. You would probably bequem (or komfortabel for that matter).

Maybe that's just where I lived (Bonn) and the word has a simpler meaning elsewhere, but I'm pretty sure I've heard gemütlich being referred to as untranslateable by other people.

Your description sounds like "cozy" to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on September 24, 2014, 07:19:44 pm
If "gemütlich" doesn't exist in english, what does Baloo sing in the jungle book?
"ease"
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 24, 2014, 07:34:44 pm
OH MY GOD I'M GETTING SLOW PLAYED FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IT'S HILARIOUS!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 24, 2014, 07:35:49 pm
Nevermind he quit. Lame.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 24, 2014, 08:21:05 pm
Nevermind he quit. Lame.

you really suck at being slowplayed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on September 24, 2014, 09:02:24 pm
OH MY GOD I'M GETTING SLOW PLAYED FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IT'S HILARIOUS!

That's a sign that you are good enough for idiots to think they just get unlucky against you.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 24, 2014, 09:36:53 pm
Nevermind he quit. Lame.

you really suck at being slowplayed.

I think that's a compliment?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 25, 2014, 04:42:07 am
Guys get a thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: shraeye on September 25, 2014, 11:02:27 am
so, what's the deal with essential and quintessential being similar, huh?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 25, 2014, 11:46:18 am
so, what's the deal with essential and quintessential being similar, huh?

It's five times more essential!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 25, 2014, 11:46:25 am
You see, my dear, all things quintessential are essential but all things essential are not necessarily quintessential (bonus points if you get this arcane reference).

This wholly unlike the relationship between ultimate and penultimate.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 25, 2014, 11:48:45 am
so, what's the deal with essential and quintessential being similar, huh?

I'm a bit more concerned that "flammable" and "inflammable" are synonymous. That has to have caused some problems somewhere that is not in a Simpsons episode.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on September 25, 2014, 11:51:21 am
You can thank the NFPA for that, they created confusion where there was none in order to avoid the confusion that never existed to begin with.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Dsell on September 25, 2014, 06:21:38 pm
You know what makes me crazy? Amicable and amiable. There is no need for two distinct words there.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 25, 2014, 06:25:18 pm
You know what makes me crazy? Amicable and amiable. There is no need for two distinct words there.

I don't c the need either.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 25, 2014, 06:34:36 pm
random question: you can change your name on goko right? do you know of any good players that have done that/is there any efficient way to check for that?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 25, 2014, 06:58:46 pm
random question: you can change your name on goko right? do you know of any good players that have done that/is there any efficient way to check for that?
I don't know of any good players, but I've changed my name on Goko (used to be my actual name).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 25, 2014, 07:13:21 pm
wasn't there a guy who called himself fap_on_it and was famous for being super BM? i haven't seen him in forever.

i remember that because i found his username stupid and offensive
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 25, 2014, 07:29:57 pm
wasn't there a guy who called himself fap_on_it and was famous for being super BM? i haven't seen him in forever.

i remember that because i found his username stupid and offensive
There still is, he appears on the partial Isotropish leaderboard. Though I haven't played against him in ages either.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Polk5440 on September 26, 2014, 07:41:31 am
random question: you can change your name on goko right? do you know of any good players that have done that/is there any efficient way to check for that?
I don't know of any good players, but I've changed my name on Goko (used to be my actual name).

I have changed my username on Goko back and forth to my actual name (when playing with friends).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Joseph2302 on September 26, 2014, 07:51:15 am
random question: you can change your name on goko right? do you know of any good players that have done that/is there any efficient way to check for that?
I don't know of any good players, but I've changed my name on Goko (used to be my actual name).

I have changed my username on Goko back and forth to my actual name (when playing with friends).

I periodically get annoyed with Goko and change my name to IsotropicWasBetter for a couple of days. Also, I randomly decided to play a few games as TheRiemannHypothesis once.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 26, 2014, 12:40:48 pm
I just joined a wedding band so I'm learning a bunch of shitty pop songs... and I'm starting to like them. God help me. God help us all.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 26, 2014, 01:16:00 pm
is it just me or is the ISO board not working? it doesn't update my lvl anymore and it keeps saying

Quote
Last recorded game finished 46 min, 45 sec ago

if it is in fact not working, does it catch up on the games played now later, or does it, you know, not?

also RIP andrew
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 26, 2014, 01:24:27 pm
I just joined a wedding band so I'm learning a bunch of shitty pop songs... and I'm starting to like them. God help me. God help us all.

I was in a choreographed dance set to One Direction for a wedding last summer.  I learned all the lyrics and everything.

:|
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 26, 2014, 02:12:14 pm
Miiverse Penis Drawing Detection (http://www.p4rgaming.com/iwata-asks-miiverse-penis-drawing-detection-took-weeks-to-develop/)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 26, 2014, 02:41:41 pm
I just joined a wedding band so I'm learning a bunch of shitty pop songs... and I'm starting to like them. God help me. God help us all.

I was in a choreographed dance set to One Direction for a wedding last summer.  I learned all the lyrics and everything.

:|

I've started calling them "One Dimension," which conveniently applies to all similar music groups.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 26, 2014, 03:30:34 pm
I've started calling them "One Dimension," which conveniently applies to all similar music groups.

Thanks to some meme, I always thought that was their name.

Sometimes satire is truer to real life.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 26, 2014, 04:41:04 pm
Miiverse Penis Drawing Detection (http://www.p4rgaming.com/iwata-asks-miiverse-penis-drawing-detection-took-weeks-to-develop/)

Yesterday's xkcd is relevant here: http://xkcd.com/1425/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 26, 2014, 05:36:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVeHxUVkW4w

Best carnival rides ever.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 26, 2014, 05:55:22 pm
Things I have heard of and/or observed in school recently:

"Bill Gates graduated from university in 1793," in a students ICT homework.

Pupils opening the internet, which defaults to the MSN homepage, then using the search bar there to search for google, so they can search for whatever they wanted to search for in the first place.

A pupil, at the end of a C1 differentiation lesson (i.e. differentiating x^n and not too much less) asked the teacher, "Can you differentiate anything?"
"Well, more or less, yeah"
"So... how do you differentiate the sun?"

I'm loving this new job. Not just for kids saying/doing hilarious things but actually for what I do.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 26, 2014, 06:32:14 pm
The sun is the really bright one in the sky during the daytime.  Pretty easy to differentiate from other things in the sky.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on September 26, 2014, 06:56:02 pm
...

Best carnival rides ever.
Even if 90% of the commenters are joking, it makes me sad to see so many people unsure of if it's fake or not.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 26, 2014, 08:14:02 pm
...

Best carnival rides ever.
Even if 90% of the commenters are joking, it makes me sad to see so many people unsure of if it's fake or not.

Obviously it is all 100% real.  All of those rides make perfect logical sense.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on September 26, 2014, 08:31:35 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVeHxUVkW4w

Best carnival rides ever.
Is this video, like, the best thing ever or am I just tired?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 26, 2014, 09:18:47 pm

Best carnival rides ever.
Is this video, like, the best thing ever or am I just tired?

It's not bad.  I've seen better CGI though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 27, 2014, 10:16:55 pm
Relevant to a recent discussion in this thread:

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/836240756cea66c79d7acd86612affbf/tumblr_ncbsjcfsSY1qdlh1io1_400.gif)

(I've never tried Marmite, myself.)

Edit: Completely unrelated, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCEFMY4TWGw
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on September 28, 2014, 12:46:05 am
I just joined a wedding band so I'm learning a bunch of shitty pop songs... and I'm starting to like them. God help me. God help us all.

Pop music has gone from 99% unlistenable when I was growing up to about 50% actually pleasant (what I would rate today). It's weird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on September 28, 2014, 01:05:41 am
Edit: Completely unrelated, but...
I can't believe how excited I am for this! Putting spoiler tags on this just to be super careful. Not even too sure why I'm writing it, just want to rave about the show I guess.
Season 3 really redeemed the show to me and introduced some very surprising elements (no pun intended).
I have watched every episode of the original A:TLA probably 5-7 times--and it will always stand as an incredible classic to me. However, I appreciate that Korra targets a more mature audience, allowing for real deaths and darker themes. I view the two shows as more independent of each other though. In particular, I didn't find the explanation for the Avatar's origin and bending to be that believable considering information present in the original show. Of course, there's a lot that can be lost in ten thousand years, but I personally liked the shadowy origins of bending and the theme they had going of people learning it from animals (air bison, badger moles, the moon, dragons). Granted the moon isn't an animal, but the other three are. So, a few minor gripes (almost all about season 2), but on the whole Korra's characterization, plots, and animation are stellar--and really do evoke some of the same emotions of serious issues coupled with incredible humor that the original show possessed. The trailer you posted looks amazing--like they're pulling out all the stops. Every new season of Korra I wonder how they'll be able to top the last one, but they always manage to.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 28, 2014, 01:30:01 am
In particular, I didn't find the explanation for the Avatar's origin and bending to be that believable considering information present in the original show.

Care to elaborate?  I'd love to discuss it.  If it's the stuff about the animals/moon being the teachers, I can see them co-existing.  Perhaps the lion turtles gave people the ability but not the skill.  They learned to master the elements by watching the natural benders.

On the trailer, I'm very curious as to what the plot will be.  Looks like a 3 year timeskip and... maybe Kuvira is leading metal bending elitists in a bid to rule the world?  I hope it's something more than that, because it would just be a re-hash of ATLA crammed into much fewer episodes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on September 28, 2014, 02:01:20 am
In particular, I didn't find the explanation for the Avatar's origin and bending to be that believable considering information present in the original show.

Care to elaborate?  I'd love to discuss it.  If it's the stuff about the animals/moon being the teachers, I can see them co-existing.  Perhaps the lion turtles gave people the ability but not the skill.  They learned to master the elements by watching the natural benders.

On the trailer, I'm very curious as to what the plot will be.  Looks like a 3 year timeskip and... maybe Kuvira is leading metal bending elitists in a bid to rule the world?  I hope it's something more than that, because it would just be a re-hash of ATLA crammed into much fewer episodes.

Well it does solve the problem of why some people have bending and others don't--which is nice I guess. I'm one of these people that thinks that authors shouldn't reveal certain things--and I think the origin of bending is something that might have been cooler if they never actually went into the mechanics of it. Korra definitely has more fanservice than the original show did--so I think some of it could be related to that.

I feel that things went too far with Korra fighting basically the anti-avatar spirit in season 2. He didn't seem strong enough to me--but I guess he's gone for good since he merged with Unalaq. I like that they have Zuko around--because he's one of my favorite characters, but he's not really important to the plot at all, and it feels like more fanservice to me. I feel that all of the villains throughout the show have been very strong with good characterization and complex motives. And there were definitely some parts of season 2 that were really amazing. In general though, I just had a hard time getting into the later parts of season 2 because too much of it was focused on the spirit world--which is something else I think is best left unknown.

Of course, as time goes on, they want to explorer more creative design space to keep things fresh, which is understandable. I liked the concept of lavabending and the introduction of new airbenders. But they mostly explain things I don't want explanation for and then ignore stuff like why/how some people can lavabend now when we've never seen it before. As a subset skill of a bending form (like lightning used to be, and metalbending still is) other special skills normally have some explanation.

I hope I'm not coming off as too down on the show, because I've enjoyed about 95% of it. I just wanted to touch on the stuff I felt they could have done better.

As to theories about Kuvira and everything, I think it's interesting how she requested to come with them when rescuing the airbenders from the Red Lotus. They make it sound like the order has other members, so it's possible that she's a part of it--though they may want to take it in a new direction. From the trailer, it almost looks like people are in smaller versions of the robots from the first season--maybe with some form of artificial bending. I like the new look they gave Korra with shorter hair, and it looks like she's wearing more earthbender style clothing.

All in all, I have really high hopes for this season, and it'll be fun to speculate more about it--a ton can happen in three years!
And sorry for wall of text, but I'm really a passionate follower of both shows, so it's a ton of fun for me to discuss it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 28, 2014, 03:23:09 am
ATLA and LoK stuff

Yeah, some things are best left to the imagination.  Though to be fair, the time before Wan is still pretty mysterious!  Have you read the comics?  They tell some other neat stories (including some closure for the Ursa plot).

The stuff with Vaatu was pretty weird, definitely.  I enjoyed it, but the season 2 plot of Korra did feel a bit off and over-the-top.  Part of it was because it didn't fully mesh with what I thought the spirit world was, but I can't even articulate what that might have been anyway.  The final battle with a giant Korra was also a bit crazy.  Even so, it was all very intriguing and I can see now how the season 2 plot really opened up the possibilities for the universe.  Season 3 was brilliant and it'll be really fun to see what season 4 is like.

I'm perfectly happy with them leaving the background of lavabending up in the air.  There's just so much possible creative space in the various uses of bending, maybe it just takes a unique mind or critical moment to uncover those cases.  Just off the top of my head...

Imagine a waterbender with the subtlety to freeze little patches of ice on the ground just as opponents are making a move to throw them off balance.  Or an earthbender shifting the earth for the same effect, hidering opponents and helping himself.  Imagine a lightning bender who can hold the electricity in her hands and feet for close combat like what Asami has demonstrated with her glove.  Imagine an airbender manipulating sound waves for espionage, or even using sonic attacks or throwing sounds to distract and mislead (IIRC Aang has used airbending at times to increase the volume of his voice, so there is basis for sound manipulation). 

Outside of a family-friendly setting, it can get even better.  Earthbenders and water benders who specializes in controlling small projectiles (read: psychic bullets) instead of chucking giant boulders and torrents of water.  Earthbenders who work with razor sharp crystal and waterbenders who actually use their ice to cut and pierce.  Metal bloodbenders who use the iron in blood instead of the water. Man, now that there's lavabending, there could even be an airbender who can control air temperature.  Or vacuums!  And even lightning bending could be so much more deadly.  It could all get so ridiculously destructive. 

So yeah, I don't think lavabending needs much more of an explanation.  I don't think combustion was ever elaborated on, was it?


Totally happy to discuss this show.  Maybe a separate thread would be worthwhile.  We might already have one floating around somewhere...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 28, 2014, 04:49:20 am
A lot more stuff

I'm not really sure I agree with you.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

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The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.


Anyway, that's how I interpret things. Also these huge walls of spoilered text are probably annoying to people who don't follow those series, but I guess this is random stuff...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on September 28, 2014, 07:11:56 am
I haven't seen all the latest season, so I haven't read the spoilers. Love the series, though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on September 28, 2014, 04:22:12 pm
I haven't seen all the latest season, so I haven't read the spoilers. Love the series, though.
Glad I put spoiler tags then.

Also, @eHalcyon I'd love to discuss this more, but it would probably be better in a different thread like you mentioned. Is there another one you had in mind? Or we could always just make a new one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 28, 2014, 04:32:52 pm
A lot more stuff

I'm not really sure I agree with you.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.


Anyway, that's how I interpret things. Also these huge walls of spoilered text are probably annoying to people who don't follow those series, but I guess this is random stuff...

That's a  good point, but

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Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 28, 2014, 04:36:11 pm
I haven't seen all the latest season, so I haven't read the spoilers. Love the series, though.
Glad I put spoiler tags then.

Also, @eHalcyon I'd love to discuss this more, but it would probably be better in a different thread like you mentioned. Is there another one you had in mind? Or we could always just make a new one.

A a quick search doesn't turn up an existing thread, so a new one would be fine.

@Tables and Witherweaver, =rand(32).

And on a completely different note,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB_0vRnkeOk
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on September 28, 2014, 09:20:05 pm
So it appears as though I have a $900 golf club order to fill. First full set that I'll be paid for. I'm pretty excited about this. :)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 28, 2014, 10:09:55 pm
So it appears as though I have a $900 golf club order to fill. First full set that I'll be paid for. I'm pretty excited about this. :)
You selling golf clubs?  Neat! Golf is great
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 28, 2014, 10:30:17 pm
I have some Callaway Big Bertha X-12s that I have had forever that I love, but think that my game would really benefit from getting a new set of clubs fitted to me.   Any f.ds discounts?  (although I don't really golf enough right now to justify spending a bunch of money on new clubs)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 28, 2014, 10:37:12 pm
It might be cheaper to get new shafts and have those fitted to you.  But I don't know, I haven't shopped for golf stuff in a while. I know when I got my clubs I have the shafts about an inch longer and the grips have an extra wrap under them, and I think that helped me get better.  At this point though, clubs wouldn't make much of a difference in my crappy game :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on September 28, 2014, 11:57:36 pm
So it appears as though I have a $900 golf club order to fill. First full set that I'll be paid for. I'm pretty excited about this. :)
You selling golf clubs?  Neat! Golf is great
Yeah, a little hobby I picked up. My dad had built sets for his friends years ago. After I bought my house, I dug up his old tools and built a few test clubs. Then my lefty friend picked up the game, so I made him a short set (14*D, 3h, 5i, 7i, 9i, 52*W) to learn with.

I have some Callaway Big Bertha X-12s that I have had forever that I love, but think that my game would really benefit from getting a new set of clubs fitted to me.   Any f.ds discounts?  (although I don't really golf enough right now to justify spending a bunch of money on new clubs)
Depends on the board what you want. I can make irons for under $20 each (plus shipping... to wherever) with a generic steel shaft. I certainly wouldn't be against it. I usually charge cost+30% for supplies and labor.

It might be cheaper to get new shafts and have those fitted to you.  But I don't know, I haven't shopped for golf stuff in a while. I know when I got my clubs I have the shafts about an inch longer and the grips have an extra wrap under them, and I think that helped me get better.  At this point though, clubs wouldn't make much of a difference in my crappy game :P
There are so many fitting factors in the game. Usually a "good" fitter is proficient in maybe 2, sometimes 3, of those parameters. Length/Lie are important after you have solved weight and flex. Something most fitters don't take into consideration is how the person will setup with each club, and instead fit for 2 or 3 clubs then interpolate the rest of the set. My clubs have a 3/8" stagger. Standard is 1/2" stagger. This means my long irons are relatively shorter and my wedges are relatively longer than a set built at 0.5" long. But as I am comfortable addressing the ball in nearly the same place in my stance, this helps the swing feel right.

You do make a great point though. The shaft is the most critical piece of the club. If you have the wrong shaft, any other corrections you make will only be marginal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 29, 2014, 01:02:13 am
If you have the wrong shaft, any other corrections you make will only be marginal.

That's what she said.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on September 29, 2014, 01:25:10 am
you have the wrong shaft

That's what she said.
Wrong thread?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 29, 2014, 03:12:11 am
"Wait, you're a teenage witch?"

"NO. I'm a teenage apprentice to a witch. There's a difference."
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 29, 2014, 08:46:29 am
"Wait, you're a teenage witch?"

"NO. I'm a teenage apprentice to a witch. There's a difference."
What's this from?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 29, 2014, 08:58:34 am
"Wait, you're a teenage witch?"

"NO. I'm a teenage apprentice to a witch. There's a difference."
What's this from?

One imagines it's from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, but it could very well be Willow from Buffy.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 29, 2014, 09:14:56 am
I was thinking buffy, but mostly because I Just started watching that
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 29, 2014, 09:46:02 am
I'm at the last four episodes of BSG. I had to power-watch the final season this weekend when I saw that Netflix will stop carrying the show at the end of this month. Looks like I'll be able to complete it, and then I can engage in all the spoilers I want.

I will say this much: When the fifth of the Final Five was revealed, I was disappointed at first. I hated that character. Then I hoped that the reveal will result in a personality change as the Cylon programming kicks in. Looked like it at first but no. Turns out that the character is just as annoying.

The bright side to this character is that it makes Cavil much more interesting. It does explain his earlier behavior, in a sick sort of way.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 29, 2014, 11:07:36 am
And on a completely different note,

[Traffic Light Video]

Of course, as soon as these became common place, no one would be excited by them anymore, so not actually a real solution for safety. Also they would distract drivers. Still a cool project though.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 29, 2014, 11:20:45 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnk15Wf6xMU
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 29, 2014, 12:02:21 pm
I am about as psyched as I can be about Legend of Grimrock 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex8kDMKnLaE

If you enjoyed Dungeon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Master_(video_game)) Master (http://dmweb.free.fr/) back in the day, then you will probably love Legend of Grimrock.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: blueblimp on September 29, 2014, 04:34:02 pm
I'm at the last four episodes of BSG. I had to power-watch the final season this weekend when I saw that Netflix will stop carrying the show at the end of this month. Looks like I'll be able to complete it, and then I can engage in all the spoilers I want.

I will say this much: When the fifth of the Final Five was revealed, I was disappointed at first. I hated that character. Then I hoped that the reveal will result in a personality change as the Cylon programming kicks in. Looked like it at first but no. Turns out that the character is just as annoying.

The bright side to this character is that it makes Cavil much more interesting. It does explain his earlier behavior, in a sick sort of way.
The BSG plot became such a mess later on. My favourite part of the show was the early season fighter ship combat with the drum music, I think.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 29, 2014, 04:37:28 pm
I'm at the last four episodes of BSG. I had to power-watch the final season this weekend when I saw that Netflix will stop carrying the show at the end of this month. Looks like I'll be able to complete it, and then I can engage in all the spoilers I want.

I will say this much: When the fifth of the Final Five was revealed, I was disappointed at first. I hated that character. Then I hoped that the reveal will result in a personality change as the Cylon programming kicks in. Looked like it at first but no. Turns out that the character is just as annoying.

The bright side to this character is that it makes Cavil much more interesting. It does explain his earlier behavior, in a sick sort of way.
The BSG plot became such a mess later on. My favourite part of the show was the early season fighter ship combat with the drum music, I think.

I didn't have any issues with late-season BSG plot.  I loved the later episodes.  I thought the whole thing was great, really.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 29, 2014, 04:41:27 pm
Fun fact, a number of Battlestar Galactica actors were in The Killing.  (Well, that number is at least two.)  Including the guy that played Leoben.  I couldn't place him for a while, but I had this extreme distrust towards his character.. I kept expecting him to turn up as the bad guy at any point.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 29, 2014, 05:19:48 pm
And on a completely different note,

[Traffic Light Video]

Of course, as soon as these became common place, no one would be excited by them anymore, so not actually a real solution for safety. Also they would distract drivers. Still a cool project though.

Maybe only use them at particularly problematic intersections?  You're right that they'd have to be careful about distracting drivers though.

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/2d853a1b5619598518edfcaaea8b30b7/tumblr_nc2if5eHMc1rq7z94o1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on September 29, 2014, 05:26:52 pm
Talking about problematic intersections, I am partial to the magic roundabout.

(http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/3A/7F6D3B6C683CD465AE2DD234E5FC8.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 29, 2014, 06:10:35 pm
"Wait, you're a teenage witch?"

"NO. I'm a teenage apprentice to a witch. There's a difference."
What's this from?

One imagines it's from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, but it could very well be Willow from Buffy.

It's not from anything. Think of it as a potential reaction a character from Gunnerkrigg Court could have, if they were in a world where Sabrina the Teenage Witch existed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 29, 2014, 07:12:12 pm
"Wait, you're a teenage witch?"

"NO. I'm a teenage apprentice to a witch. There's a difference."
What's this from?

One imagines it's from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, but it could very well be Willow from Buffy.

It's not from anything. Think of it as a potential reaction a character from Gunnerkrigg Court could have, if they were in a world where Sabrina the Teenage Witch existed.

This was like this internship I was at this summer: When one of the interns would say "I'm an engineer" or "We're engineers" my roommate would always append "-ing student." There is a difference.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 29, 2014, 07:37:02 pm
"Wait, you're a teenage witch?"

"NO. I'm a teenage apprentice to a witch. There's a difference."
What's this from?

One imagines it's from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, but it could very well be Willow from Buffy.

It's not from anything. Think of it as a potential reaction a character from Gunnerkrigg Court could have, if they were in a world where Sabrina the Teenage Witch existed.

This was like this internship I was at this summer: When one of the interns would say "I'm an engineer" or "We're engineers" my roommate would always append "-ing student." There is a difference.
Very very true
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Polk5440 on September 29, 2014, 08:15:47 pm
This was like this internship I was at this summer: When one of the interns would say "I'm an engineer" or "We're engineers" my roommate would always append "-ing student." There is a difference.

... One still has hope for a bright future?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on September 29, 2014, 08:18:50 pm
This was like this internship I was at this summer: When one of the interns would say "I'm an engineer" or "We're engineers" my roommate would always append "-ing student." There is a difference.

... One still has hope for a bright future?

Nah, I don't think that's even true :P Everyone's got a reason to be disappointed.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 29, 2014, 09:37:42 pm
"Wait, you're a teenage witch?"

"NO. I'm a teenage apprentice to a witch. There's a difference."

I didn't say I was powerful, I said I was a wizard.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on September 29, 2014, 10:15:28 pm
This was like this internship I was at this summer: When one of the interns would say "I'm an engineer" or "We're engineers" my roommate would always append "-ing student." There is a difference.

... One still has hope for a bright future?

Nah, I don't think that's even true :P Everyone's got a reason to be disappointed.
While I was in school for engineering, the professors consistently referred to the students as "engineers" so I wouldn't blame the interns.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 29, 2014, 10:18:38 pm
This was like this internship I was at this summer: When one of the interns would say "I'm an engineer" or "We're engineers" my roommate would always append "-ing student." There is a difference.

... One still has hope for a bright future?

Nah, I don't think that's even true :P Everyone's got a reason to be disappointed.
While I was in school for engineering, the professors consistently referred to the students as "engineers" so I wouldn't blame the interns.

It's also part of the refrain for the Engineer's Drinking Song (http://www.mit.edu/people/mrbonk/engineers.html), which is commonly sung or chanted by engineering students as part of orientation.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 29, 2014, 11:32:08 pm
This was like this internship I was at this summer: When one of the interns would say "I'm an engineer" or "We're engineers" my roommate would always append "-ing student." There is a difference.

... One still has hope for a bright future?

Nah, I don't think that's even true :P Everyone's got a reason to be disappointed.
While I was in school for engineering, the professors consistently referred to the students as "engineers" so I wouldn't blame the interns.

And I consistently refer to my students as "scientists."

An engineering intern is acting in the capacity of a junior engineer.  Unlike "Doctor," "engineer" is not denoted by a degree; it is denoted by job title.  Obviously the intern cannot claim the rank of Professional Engineer, but then neither can a junior engineer in their second year on the job--who is probably doing a lot of the same work as the intern, and with only slightly less oversight.

Speaking of "Doctor," remember that interns at your hospital are doctors by degree.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on September 29, 2014, 11:33:39 pm
Professional Engineer
Uggghhh... Don't remind me... I have to take that exam at the end of this year...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 30, 2014, 12:39:06 am
So cool.

http://kotaku.com/fans-are-remaking-ocarina-of-time-in-2d-1640594819
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on September 30, 2014, 01:14:47 am
Professional Engineer
Uggghhh... Don't remind me... I have to take that exam at the end of this year...

By the time I finished my engineering degree, I knew I had no plans to become an actual engineer, so I never even took the FE exam.

--------

Speaking of education and academic pursuits, this was a good read from Steven Pinker, about why academics are horrible writers:

http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Academics-Writing-Stinks/148989
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on September 30, 2014, 02:16:52 am
(http://d3gqasl9vmjfd8.cloudfront.net/352be5c5-4766-42d5-8e4f-ae84a8ecf717.png) (http://shirt.woot.com/offers/handelbrot-mustache?ref=cnt_wp_0_10)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 11:52:53 am
I'm just being slowplayed...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:05:48 pm
it's not like I did anything to provoke this... he just got pissed off that he lost and then started explaining me that he's better because he has a higher goko rating, and I explained him why that's probably not true.

maybe I could have avoided it by not doing that. mh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:10:20 pm
it is only a matter of days until this game is finished
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:15:43 pm
seriously: brb, ur mom wants to *******
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on September 30, 2014, 12:19:47 pm
seriously: brb, ur mom wants to *******

Just report it using the report button.

Well, first report to Goko the lack of a report button, and when they add one, report it using the button.

Actually, first report to Goko the lack of a report button. Then take bets on which will happen first: The game will finish, or Goko will actually add a report button. Then if/when they add a report button, report it using that.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:21:13 pm
yea or i just counter slowplay him. that's actually kind of fun. i never did it before.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:21:38 pm
does anyone know the exact time I am allowed to take between two actions? is it 10 minutes?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 30, 2014, 12:30:48 pm
This is great stuff. Please, continue.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 30, 2014, 12:32:40 pm
seriously: brb, ur mom wants to *******

"I doubt that, she only likes guys that don't suck at Dominion."
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:33:36 pm
seriously: brb, ur mom wants to *******

"I doubt that, she only likes guys that don't suck at Dominion."

well he does have a better ranking than my mom
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:47:03 pm
He took over 5 minutes, so i'll take 5 minutes as a guideline when I get another turn.

the board is a slog, which means there are approximately 3 actions average in the action phase plus 6 or so in the buy phase. so, every turn will take about 45 min.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:48:06 pm
This can easily last another 10 turns. which would mean, 10*3/4 = 3*2,5 = 7,5 hours.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:48:30 pm
I actually don't want to stay awake that long...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 30, 2014, 12:50:11 pm
…and Battlestar Galactica is complete. Finally watched the entire series before Netflix could drop it.

Not sure how I feel about the ending. It was very pretty, but the whole starting-over thing is kind of bugging me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 12:51:01 pm
silverspawn_ by the way I asked my mom if she's interested
silverspawn_ she says she only likes good dominion players
seriously i know, thats why shes been bobbing on my canoli the last 20 min
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 01:03:47 pm
hey, just as i happened to look, he played 2 treasures and once and bought something instantlly.

or maybe the animation caught up because I had the window minimized. does it do that? probably not. well, to be completely safe, I played one treasure

but if he thinks we can finish this normally, he's wrong. too late for that bitch.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 01:06:38 pm
seriously i think u have some real anger issues my friend
seriously (all *** talking aside0
seriously i have an uncle who is a really good shrink
seriously he could probably recommend a colougue in your area
seriously you really need help
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 01:10:33 pm
seriously posting all this online like u are doing is a cry for attention and help
seriously im serious dude, u need some help
seriously like i feel bad for u, life must be misreable for u


haha he's reading the forum. this is actually hilarious. I'm really glad this happened.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 30, 2014, 01:11:38 pm
Will you make the "silverspawn slowplay adventures" thread already?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 01:12:23 pm
no... i don't think that's a good idea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 01:15:16 pm
but you can upvote all my posts to motivate me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 01:20:03 pm
seriously so this happens to u alot, seriously, that's a sign, something is wrong with u...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 01:21:06 pm
oups. i waited to long. just wanted to do something.

well at least it's over now. not too bad.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on September 30, 2014, 01:24:27 pm
It's what you deserve for slowplaying this thread, silverspawn. You should have posted something once per second rather than only every few minutes. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 30, 2014, 01:25:51 pm
I don't know why you put yourself through that. Couldn't you have gotten in like five games during that time?

Then again, I think that coping with over 25 years of trolls has given me the proper outlook regarding trolls.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 30, 2014, 01:39:09 pm
seriously posting all this online like u are doing is a cry for attention and help
seriously im serious dude, u need some help
seriously like i feel bad for u, life must be misreable for u


haha he's reading the forum. this is actually hilarious. I'm really glad this happened.

Plot twist: It's Wandering Winter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Polk5440 on September 30, 2014, 02:34:28 pm
or maybe the animation caught up because I had the window minimized. does it do that? probably not.

It does, actually! I think it does that even if you have another window maximized over top of the game. I am not sure of the exact conditions, but I take advantage of that when someone is playing a scrying pool engine. It's like you get a quick replay without having to look at the log or pay attention for the whole turn.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 30, 2014, 02:35:06 pm
but you can upvote all my posts to motivate me.

Motivating and encouraging are two different things.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on September 30, 2014, 02:43:25 pm
but you can upvote all my posts to motivate me.

Motivating and encouraging are two different things.

Enlighten me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 30, 2014, 02:54:58 pm
but you can upvote all my posts to motivate me.

Motivating and encouraging are two different things.

Enlighten me.

Patience, grasshopper.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 30, 2014, 03:18:58 pm
But really, can the random stuff actually be random and not slowplay adventures?  I feel like there are plenty (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11834.0) of threads (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11815.0) about slowplaying (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11773.0) elsewhere, and the proper place for that discussion is in Dominion Online (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=28.0) where those other threads exist.

I come here to discover that "With this post, this thread passes "Decline of Civility on Isotropic?" on the post count list" can turn into "This costume and other cultural materials. The text in the list below" (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg281983#msg281983) with enough translations.  Or that Tuvalu is a real country (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg342776#msg342776).  Or that unicorns suck (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg374700#msg374700).  But not a diary of a slowplay experience. 

Although who am I kidding?  This is a random stuff thread, so anything should be able to go here.  Including my opinion on what should go here
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 03:21:34 pm
But really, can the random stuff actually be random and not slowplay adventures?  I feel like there are plenty (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11834.0) of threads (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11815.0) about slowplaying (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11773.0) elsewhere, and the proper place for that discussion is in Dominion Online (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=28.0) where those other threads exist.

I come here to discover that "With this post, this thread passes "Decline of Civility on Isotropic?" on the post count list" can turn into "This costume and other cultural materials. The text in the list below" (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg281983#msg281983) with enough translations.  Or that Tuvalu is a real country (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg342776#msg342776).  Or that unicorns suck (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg374700#msg374700).  But not a diary of a slowplay experience. 

Although who am I kidding?  This is a random stuff thread, so anything should be able to go here.  Including my opinion on what should go here

indeed

i don't like to open threads. i always feel like they're not important enough. i've actually been about to open threads multiple times and then not done it

also the last one i opened was kind of unsuccessful
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 30, 2014, 03:23:35 pm
But really, can the random stuff actually be random and not slowplay adventures?  I feel like there are plenty (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11834.0) of threads (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11815.0) about slowplaying (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11773.0) elsewhere, and the proper place for that discussion is in Dominion Online (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=28.0) where those other threads exist.

I come here to discover that "With this post, this thread passes "Decline of Civility on Isotropic?" on the post count list" can turn into "This costume and other cultural materials. The text in the list below" (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg281983#msg281983) with enough translations.  Or that Tuvalu is a real country (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg342776#msg342776).  Or that unicorns suck (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg374700#msg374700).  But not a diary of a slowplay experience. 

Although who am I kidding?  This is a random stuff thread, so anything should be able to go here.  Including my opinion on what should go here

I'm really glad he set the record straight on unicorns.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 30, 2014, 03:29:07 pm
Speaking of reporting slow-rollers, I went to look at that google-doc someone created at some point to register slow rollers to see if silverspawn had added his and discovered everything had been deleted. Then I went to the thread in which it was introduced and it looked like it was locked (there was no reply button, though there was also no post saying it was being locked). Did a mod do this? If so, why?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on September 30, 2014, 03:40:58 pm
btw

(http://s7.directupload.net/images/140930/8fltlv5y.png)

@^ no idea
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on September 30, 2014, 03:56:52 pm
Speaking of reporting slow-rollers, I went to look at that google-doc someone created at some point to register slow rollers to see if silverspawn had added his and discovered everything had been deleted. Then I went to the thread in which it was introduced and it looked like it was locked (there was no reply button, though there was also no post saying it was being locked). Did a mod do this? If so, why?

Because slow-roll registries and centralized blacklist discussions and calling people out by name has no place on this forum (in my opinion).  This particular behavior (calling out particular individuals to be blacklisted) has consistently been shut down by theory (here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10602.msg352118#msg352118) and here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6910.msg192328#msg192328) as some older examples).  Sure, you can tell a funny story about getting slowplayed and what you did to counter it.  You can share your opinion about why blacklisting is a good idea.  You can discuss what types of behaviors you find particularly offensive.  But please, please, please leave out names.  Blacklisting is available to everyone.  If you feel like a person deserves to be blacklisted, do it!  But I don't need to know about it.  And they don't need to know about it (if they ever visit f.ds).  And we don't need to discuss those people and what they did. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 30, 2014, 04:10:08 pm
Speaking of reporting slow-rollers, I went to look at that google-doc someone created at some point to register slow rollers to see if silverspawn had added his and discovered everything had been deleted. Then I went to the thread in which it was introduced and it looked like it was locked (there was no reply button, though there was also no post saying it was being locked). Did a mod do this? If so, why?

Because slow-roll registries and centralized blacklist discussions and calling people out by name has no place on this forum (in my opinion).  This particular behavior (calling out particular individuals to be blacklisted) has consistently been shut down by theory (here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=10602.msg352118#msg352118) and here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6910.msg192328#msg192328) as some older examples).  Sure, you can tell a funny story about getting slowplayed and what you did to counter it.  You can share your opinion about why blacklisting is a good idea.  You can discuss what types of behaviors you find particularly offensive.  But please, please, please leave out names.  Blacklisting is available to everyone.  If you feel like a person deserves to be blacklisted, do it!  But I don't need to know about it.  And they don't need to know about it (if they ever visit f.ds).  And we don't need to discuss those people and what they did.

See I'm not sure I agree on this one because it was an off-forum google spreadsheet. Someone deleted the spreadsheet, which seems not cool (unless it was the original author). Obviously the mods have authority to lock threads though.

I definitely see the dangers of a public blacklist, but in general I trust that anyone an f.dser reports as slow-rolling while complaining about luck (or insulting the other player) is someone I never want to play. I do want to know. Someone's already done the experiment once, and I have no desire to repeat it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on September 30, 2014, 04:16:32 pm
That guy was discussing various levels of fornication with Silver's mom... I'm not really too concerned with his bad name being spoiled.

Though, I do understand what e is saying, that collecting lists of 'people we don't like' shouldn't really be on the forum, because then we're kind of elitist jerks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on September 30, 2014, 04:26:56 pm
i don't like to open threads. i always feel like they're not important enough. i've actually been about to open threads multiple times and then not done it

Well, if they're really not important enough, then they'll scroll off into the obscurity of subsequent pages. I've had a few threads like that.

I'll be in the mood to discuss something, I'll create a thread, I and a few others may engage in that topic for a few days, and it'll scroll on away due to inactivity.

In fact, I'd like to see more topic-specific threads in the General subforum. It feels like I mostly come here to see what random stuff is being said, which is neat, but then sometimes the thread goes on about something I don't care about and the one active thread here just slogs for me.

And I can properly ignore the threads about specific shows. I do check in on Dr. Who, though. I promptly ignore the baseball thread.

But sometimes it's just good to unload something into Random, but I don't think it's a bad thing if a thread is started. If it loses interest after a while, the forum sorts itself out.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on September 30, 2014, 04:43:36 pm
But really, can the random stuff actually be random and not slowplay adventures?  I feel like there are plenty (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11834.0) of threads (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11815.0) about slowplaying (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=11773.0) elsewhere, and the proper place for that discussion is in Dominion Online (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=28.0) where those other threads exist.

I come here to discover that "With this post, this thread passes "Decline of Civility on Isotropic?" on the post count list" can turn into "This costume and other cultural materials. The text in the list below" (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg281983#msg281983) with enough translations.  Or that Tuvalu is a real country (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg342776#msg342776).  Or that unicorns suck (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5727.msg374700#msg374700).  But not a diary of a slowplay experience. 

Although who am I kidding?  This is a random stuff thread, so anything should be able to go here.  Including my opinion on what should go here

indeed

i don't like to open threads. i always feel like they're not important enough. i've actually been about to open threads multiple times and then not done it

also the last one i opened was kind of unsuccessful

This message board is for discussing anything you want. And it doesn't matter if a thread is "successful" or not. If you've got something to say then say it (in the appropriate place).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on September 30, 2014, 04:45:20 pm
Speaking of education and academic pursuits, this was a good read from Steven Pinker, about why academics are horrible writers:

http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Academics-Writing-Stinks/148989

This is good stuff. Thank you. The "Curse of Knowledge" he references is something that I discovered on my own writing a scholarship application last year that was intended for a general scientific audience. I ended up just getting random people I knew who were reasonably scientifically literate to read it and tell me which parts they didn't understand. After working on the project for 400+ hours it had become nigh on impossible to remember what it was like when I first heard about it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: blueblimp on September 30, 2014, 05:36:48 pm
Not sure how I feel about the ending. It was very pretty, but the whole starting-over thing is kind of bugging me.
The dancing-robot montage is hilarious. Hard to believe that it wasn't intentional trolling on the part of the show runners.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Voltaire on September 30, 2014, 05:45:19 pm
Not sure how I feel about the ending. It was very pretty, but the whole starting-over thing is kind of bugging me.
The dancing-robot montage is hilarious. Hard to believe that it wasn't intentional trolling on the part of the show runners.

I hosted a massive 10+ person viewing of that finale, live. We were all obsessed. So into the show we'd stab anyone who coughed during a new episode, let alone talk (but we were all like that, so it was fine). We watched the finale in the dark, for a movie-esque atmosphere, for those two highly-anticipated hours.

When the lights came up, we all wandered off alone, too ashamed to look each other in the eyes, to find holes to die in.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 01, 2014, 07:10:49 am
this is really bad. now it looks like i'm gaming the system. i only wanted to transfer my ranking, not get into the top 5

and of course this is the time where i stop having bad luck every game and win the real games i play instead, so that it looks even more like I'm trying to cheat.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: shraeye on October 01, 2014, 07:18:02 am
so, what's the frustration with getting slowplayed?  I don't play often enough (or well enough) to run into those people, but I feel like I'd just open a freecell game in the background (or Minecraft, or Minimetro, or Hearthstone, or Minesweeper, or read some article, edit my webpage....I got too many activities :()
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 01, 2014, 07:31:56 am
(http://s7.directupload.net/images/141001/92lhusxm.png)

YIKES. nononono
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on October 01, 2014, 07:32:50 am
21 games huh?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 01, 2014, 08:48:20 am
well yea it's a new account. it has a " " at the end. look closely  :P

i wanted to get my old account down so that there aren't 2 silverspawns chilling in the top lvls. apparently that doesn't work though, because it skyrockets my new account farther up than I want it. I wanted it to be just as high as the old one, but with so few games, the rating is incredibly swingy.

so... i'll just play with the new one, and leave the old one be.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 01, 2014, 09:32:33 am
Not sure how I feel about the ending. It was very pretty, but the whole starting-over thing is kind of bugging me.
The dancing-robot montage is hilarious. Hard to believe that it wasn't intentional trolling on the part of the show runners.

I hosted a massive 10+ person viewing of that finale, live. We were all obsessed. So into the show we'd stab anyone who coughed during a new episode, let alone talk (but we were all like that, so it was fine). We watched the finale in the dark, for a movie-esque atmosphere, for those two highly-anticipated hours.

When the lights came up, we all wandered off alone, too ashamed to look each other in the eyes, to find holes to die in.

Heh, I didn't quite feel that bad, but the finale did make me raise an eyebrow. Was technology so awful that you have to chuck it into the sun?

They could have at least paid homage to the distribution of people. Why is it that the Greek gods only flourished in Greece and not in Australia? Did they try to preserve the ethnicity of the regions they seeded?

I'm also left a little unclear about Starbuck. I thought they would explain her, but they didn't. But there's nothing wrong with a little mysticism. After all, Star Wars is still great with the Force being unexplained (since Episode I never existed). So why not leave Starbuck unexplained? Still, they covered so much so it felt odd that her story ends the way it did. Or maybe I was too distracted to notice.

I popped on the pilot of the original BSG for shits and giggles. Man, that acting was terrible. I have to remember that this was back when a reshoot would cost valuable film, so if that actor sucked balls, then they had to either pay to get a better scene or just suck it up. The special effects were pretty decent for 1978, though, so I can see why they abandoned reshooting a terrible scene. I didn't realize that the BSG reboot kept a lot of the names (Tigh, Baltar). I knew about Starbuck. I may have been only a kid when that show came out, but I remembered Starbuck being the hero.

I did find Caprica on Netflix though. Looks like it was canceled after the first season, but reviews seem to be favorable, so I'll give it a shot. I had to make sure it wasn't going to disappear off Netflix like BSG.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 01, 2014, 12:28:53 pm
Hey, can somebody go wake up Green Day?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 01, 2014, 12:35:27 pm
I never listened to that album.  I only know of the reference because I was browsing Imgur 10 minutes ago.

But that reminds me, I was watching TV last night and in the middle of commercials this band started singing, kind of like a music video.  It was U2, and it seemed to be the entirety of one of songs on their new album.  I thought to myself, "Thank god I don't have any Apple products or I'd have that terrible music on my devices."

Yeah, the song was really bad and I can see why they're giving it away for free.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on October 01, 2014, 12:57:49 pm
I never listened to that album.  I only know of the reference because I was browsing Imgur 10 minutes ago.

But that reminds me, I was watching TV last night and in the middle of commercials this band started singing, kind of like a music video.  It was U2, and it seemed to be the entirety of one of songs on their new album.  I thought to myself, "Thank god I don't have any Apple products or I'd have that terrible music on my devices."

Yeah, the song was really bad and I can see why they're giving it away for free.
I guess that explains why it was in my iTunes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 01, 2014, 01:00:36 pm
That's such an obnoxious and pretentious attitude to think that people would just want to have your music without actively pursuing it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 01, 2014, 05:39:54 pm
That's such an obnoxious and pretentious attitude to think that people would just want to have your music without actively pursuing it.

I don't get that. It's a free album. It's called advertising. If you don't like it, no one's making you listen to it.

I really don't get the controversy around this. I don't think the obnoxiousness/pretensiousness is on the side you think it is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 01, 2014, 05:43:37 pm
No, but they are (hypothetically) making me go have to delete the music to prevent having to listen to it.

Sort of like McDonald's putting a happy meal in my fridge.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 01, 2014, 06:16:26 pm
No, but they are (hypothetically) making me go have to delete the music to prevent having to listen to it.

Sort of like McDonald's putting a happy meal in my fridge.

That's because people have a misguided sense of privacy. iTunes is not the same as your fridge, not even close. iTunes is not something you own (nor is Spotify or whatever else).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 01, 2014, 06:18:44 pm
No, but they are (hypothetically) making me go have to delete the music to prevent having to listen to it.

Sort of like McDonald's putting a happy meal in my fridge.

That's because people have a misguided sense of privacy. iTunes is not the same as your fridge, not even close. iTunes is not something you own (nor is Spotify or whatever else).

Man, when people complain about stuff, they don't want to having flaws in their underlying assumptions pointed out to them.  That's like Complaining 101.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 01, 2014, 06:19:19 pm
All I'm really trying to say is that U2's song sucked. And I don't like iTunes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 01, 2014, 06:21:53 pm
iTunes is not the same as my fridge?

That explains why the milk spoiled...and my mp3s are cold
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 01, 2014, 06:46:45 pm
All I'm really trying to say is that U2's song sucked. And I don't like iTunes.

I don't like iTunes either (I'm meh on U2, haven't actually heard the new album), I was just surprised by the response to the free album thing.

I don't like when people complain, I often do this and annoy people, sorry. This is why I tend to avoid RSP forums ^^
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 01, 2014, 06:51:23 pm
I don't like when people complain

Oh, here's Teproc again, always complaining.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 01, 2014, 06:52:23 pm
I don't like when people complain

This sounds suspiciously like a complaint!

Edit: whoa, didn't even notice I got ninja'd.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 01, 2014, 06:53:10 pm
All I'm really trying to say is that U2's song sucked. And I don't like iTunes.

I don't like iTunes either (I'm meh on U2, haven't actually heard the new album), I was just surprised by the response to the free album thing.

I don't like when people complain, I often do this and annoy people, sorry. This is why I tend to avoid RSP forums ^^

Must have been hard for you when you heard about the Internet :(
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 01, 2014, 08:37:08 pm
Must have been hard for you when you heard about the Internet :(

Must of*

Also:

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/7edd2bd7b5f49879176101db558ec2c4/tumblr_nc2flsaqZX1rpco88o1_500.gif)


I know it's "must have".  I'm just joking!  Internet!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Hydrad on October 01, 2014, 08:42:46 pm
Must have been hard for you when you heard about the Internet :(

Must of*

Also:

(https://33.media.tumblr.com/7edd2bd7b5f49879176101db558ec2c4/tumblr_nc2flsaqZX1rpco88o1_500.gif)


I know it's "must have".  I'm just joking!  Internet!

I stared at this for a while wondering why you would post it. Looked away for a few seconds and when I looked back was so confused.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 01, 2014, 10:11:04 pm
Why is it so fucking difficult for people to dismiss information that is clearly and demonstrably untrue?

/headdesk
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 01, 2014, 10:16:04 pm
Why is it so fucking difficult for people to dismiss information that is clearly and demonstrably untrue?

/headdesk

It's probably a result of vaccines.  Those things are dangerous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 01, 2014, 10:31:27 pm
Why is it so fucking difficult for people to dismiss information that is clearly and demonstrably untrue?

/headdesk

It's probably a result of vaccines.  Those things are dangerous.

I was gonna say. Are we talking about vaccines here?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on October 01, 2014, 11:06:20 pm
On the topic of headdesk, I played a great board game recently that I think some of the hard core strategy gamers here might like.

The board1 had different areas marked off,2 each labeled with a different challenge.3 Play consisted of advancing into an area4 and attempting to meet the challenge3 there or refusing and instead entering a war of attrition5 whose length was determined by the time until another player refused a challenge.6


1. Ok, well really it was a paper grocery bag
2. Literally, with marker
3. Dare
4. Flipping a quarter onto the board1
5. Placing one's face on the table. "Tableface"
6. You tableface until someone else has to tableface



Joking aside, it was actually pretty entertaining. Amusing dares included "lick mustard off of someone's back" and "eat compost"
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on October 02, 2014, 01:42:40 am
So is it normal that I have been doing my homework until past midnight every day this week or am I doing something wrong.

Note: I start my homework essentially as soon as I get home from cross country practice.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 02, 2014, 02:16:53 am
So is it normal that I have been doing my homework until past midnight every day this week or am I doing something wrong.

Note: I start my homework essentially as soon as I get home from cross country practice.

Depends on what level of education you're at, and when you get home, as well as how hard you're working. I had a friend who started a PGCE (teacher training) course and had a problem like that, and was eventually diagnosed with Dyslexia, so it might have a cause.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: GeoLib on October 02, 2014, 02:23:38 am
So is it normal that I have been doing my homework until past midnight every day this week or am I doing something wrong.

Note: I start my homework essentially as soon as I get home from cross country practice.

It's pretty normal (posting at 2:23AM)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 02, 2014, 08:24:15 am
Are the rest of your cross country teammates having the same trouble?

Also I assume this is high school?  Six hours a night would be pretty excessive... but if other people aren't spending that long, then we have to consider poor study habits or, as Tables says, undiagnosed learning disability.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 02, 2014, 08:35:02 am
So is it normal that I have been doing my homework until past midnight every day this week or am I doing something wrong.

Note: I start my homework essentially as soon as I get home from cross country practice.
Sounds normal enough if it's just this week and not something that constantly happens.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 02, 2014, 10:04:21 am
My healthy breakfast today:

Blueberries, raspberries, sliced almonds, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, flax seed, blueberry kefir.

I think that means I win, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on October 02, 2014, 10:08:10 am
Nope.  Off brand cocoa pebbles FTW
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 02, 2014, 10:09:17 am
My healthy breakfast today:

Blueberries, raspberries, sliced almonds, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, flax seed, blueberry kefir.

I think that means I win, right?

"My" "healthy" "breakfast" "today":
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 02, 2014, 10:17:28 am
Oh shit I forgot the coconut. I lose.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 02, 2014, 11:03:13 am
I'm enjoying watching Caprica more than I expected. I was uncertain about the pilot when it seemed more like a Gilmore Girls episode (as I assume GG is like). But it picked up in the second hour and poses some interesting questions…nothing new in the world of sci-fi, but it's nice to see it done in a manner accessible to the hoi polloi.

It is kind of weird to think of this great genocidal powerful robot race starting off as a teenaged girl, though.

I'm only 5 episodes in. I am aware the show didn't make it past the first season, and I'm kind of afraid to see what may have caused that. Then again, Firefly was canceled after one season so we already know that's not a standard to judge a show.

I forget this was a Sci-Fi Channel (or SyFy) original. Effects have their cheesy moments, but it definitely harkens back to the days when SyFy actually cared about sci-fi.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 02, 2014, 11:25:11 am
I was uncertain about the pilot when it seemed more like a Gilmore Girls episode (as I assume GG is like).

I'm interested to hear what you assume Gilmore Girls is like...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 02, 2014, 11:27:48 am
I was uncertain about the pilot when it seemed more like a Gilmore Girls episode (as I assume GG is like).

I'm interested to hear what you assume Gilmore Girls is like...

Lorelai was a Cylon.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 02, 2014, 11:35:15 am
I was uncertain about the pilot when it seemed more like a Gilmore Girls episode (as I assume GG is like).

I'm interested to hear what you assume Gilmore Girls is like...

No wait, Dawson's Creek. I get those two shows confused. They came out roughly at the same time, and I never saw either of them, so they are forever conflated in my mind as similar shows, regardless of what their content is.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 02, 2014, 11:52:29 am
this just popped up while I was reading

Quote
“Platinum?!  Pffft!  More like fool's gold!”  Trixie folded her forelimbs and frowned over the counter of her shack at the top of the quarry.

I don't think this was an intended reference, but...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 02, 2014, 02:46:07 pm
Since Teproc likes to see people complain, I'll complain more.

Why do all the service employees on the East Coast call me "boss"?  Every time I get a coffee or a slice of pizza, it's "there you go, boss" or "thanks, boss".  Where did this come from?  Do I emanate some kind of aura of authority?  What if I go with my direct manager and get a cup of coffee, and now the cashier puts me in the uncomfortable position of correcting or neglecting to correct this.  Also, what's the point of addressing at all?  Is it any more personal than just saying "thank you", especially if they say it to everyone?  Or, why not just "sir"?

Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 02, 2014, 02:56:06 pm
Since Teproc likes to see people complain, I'll complain more.

I suggest we start a new trend. Whenever something annoys you, send a PM to Teproc complaining about it. He will understand your plight and share comforting words.

Quote
Why do all the service employees on the East Coast call me "boss"?  Every time I get a coffee or a slice of pizza, it's "there you go, boss" or "thanks, boss".  Where did this come from?  Do I emanate some kind of aura of authority?  What if I go with my direct manager and get a cup of coffee, and now the cashier puts me in the uncomfortable position of correcting or neglecting to correct this.  Also, what's the point of addressing at all?  Is it any more personal than just saying "thank you", especially if they say it to everyone?  Or, why not just "sir"?

I would guess they get less complaints than if they actually say the similar-sounding "ass".
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 02, 2014, 02:57:05 pm
Since Teproc likes to see people complain, I'll complain more.

I suggest we start a new trend. Whenever something annoys you, send a PM to Teproc complaining about it. He will understand your plight and share comforting words.

Quote
Why do all the service employees on the East Coast call me "boss"?  Every time I get a coffee or a slice of pizza, it's "there you go, boss" or "thanks, boss".  Where did this come from?  Do I emanate some kind of aura of authority?  What if I go with my direct manager and get a cup of coffee, and now the cashier puts me in the uncomfortable position of correcting or neglecting to correct this.  Also, what's the point of addressing at all?  Is it any more personal than just saying "thank you", especially if they say it to everyone?  Or, why not just "sir"?

I would guess they get less complaints than if they actually say the similar-sounding "ass".

Thanks, ass.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 02, 2014, 02:59:29 pm
I was uncertain about the pilot when it seemed more like a Gilmore Girls episode (as I assume GG is like).

I'm interested to hear what you assume Gilmore Girls is like...

No wait, Dawson's Creek. I get those two shows confused. They came out roughly at the same time, and I never saw either of them, so they are forever conflated in my mind as similar shows, regardless of what their content is.

/shudder

Dawson's Creek : Gilmore Girls :: Phantom Menace : Wrath of Khan
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 02, 2014, 03:03:36 pm
I was uncertain about the pilot when it seemed more like a Gilmore Girls episode (as I assume GG is like).

I'm interested to hear what you assume Gilmore Girls is like...

No wait, Dawson's Creek. I get those two shows confused. They came out roughly at the same time, and I never saw either of them, so they are forever conflated in my mind as similar shows, regardless of what their content is.

/shudder

Dawson's Creek : Gilmore Girls :: Phantom Menace : Wrath of Khan

I'll try to remember that Dawson's Creek is the insipid, vacuous show while Gilmore Girls is something else.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 02, 2014, 04:05:15 pm
Hey, can somebody go wake up Green Day?

OK so apparently that song was written about the death of the singer's father.  He was just a kid.  The day of the funeral he went to his room and said "wake me up when September ends".

So I won't be making that joke again.  :-\
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 02, 2014, 05:02:04 pm
I feel somehat obligated to respond here WW.

You mention that a different possibility would be "sir". Are you of noble descent ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 02, 2014, 05:06:23 pm
I feel somehat obligated to respond here WW.

You mention that a different possibility would be "sir". Are you of noble descent ?

"Sir" isn't a noble word, at least where I am.  It's more of a sign of respect.  I've been called sir, and it always makes me feel good about myself.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Ichimaru Gin on October 02, 2014, 05:08:21 pm
Murica
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 02, 2014, 05:09:05 pm
I feel somehat obligated to respond here WW.

You mention that a different possibility would be "sir". Are you of noble descent ?

"Sir" isn't a noble word, at least where I am.  It's more of a sign of respect.  I've been called sir, and it always makes me feel good about myself.

That's my point. In the situation WW is describing, "boss" is just used as a term of respect, much like "sir", and doesn't have that much to do with its original meaning.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 02, 2014, 05:11:43 pm
I was uncertain about the pilot when it seemed more like a Gilmore Girls episode (as I assume GG is like).

I'm interested to hear what you assume Gilmore Girls is like...

No wait, Dawson's Creek. I get those two shows confused. They came out roughly at the same time, and I never saw either of them, so they are forever conflated in my mind as similar shows, regardless of what their content is.

/shudder

Dawson's Creek : Gilmore Girls :: Phantom Menace : Wrath of Khan

I'll try to remember that Dawson's Creek is the insipid, vacuous show while Gilmore Girls is something else.

GG is on Netflix now.  You should go watch some!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 02, 2014, 05:40:56 pm
Not sure if I can really tell the difference here.

http://www.clickhole.com/video/watch-big-bang-theory-more-laughter-added-1132
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 02, 2014, 05:42:24 pm
I feel somehat obligated to respond here WW.

You mention that a different possibility would be "sir". Are you of noble descent ?

"Sir" isn't a noble word, at least where I am.  It's more of a sign of respect.  I've been called sir, and it always makes me feel good about myself.

That's my point. In the situation WW is describing, "boss" is just used as a term of respect, much like "sir", and doesn't have that much to do with its original meaning.

Right, well, I said "sir" because that's the sort of default.  So I'm wondering why it changed to boss.  Though "sir" sounds aesthetically better to me than "boss" does.  Being called "boss" isn't too far from being called "bro".

Personally, I'd prefer no title.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 02, 2014, 05:58:23 pm
Dawson's Creek : Gilmore Girls :: Phantom Menace : Wrath of Khan

I caught bits of Gilmore Girls back in the day when my mother and sister watched it. The thing that threw me about it was the rapid-fire conversation saturated with witticisms. I'm mean really rapid. The characters in that show think and talk faster than in any other piece of media I've ever seen. It didn't sound natural at all and prevented me from suspending my disbelief.

Gilmore Girls : The Big Lebowski :: Cold : Hot
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 02, 2014, 06:17:27 pm
Shawshank redemption : Matrix :: Pulp Fiction : banana
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 02, 2014, 06:26:59 pm
: : :: :: i : ii
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 02, 2014, 06:27:11 pm
Dawson's Creek : Gilmore Girls :: Phantom Menace : Wrath of Khan

I caught bits of Gilmore Girls back in the day when my mother and sister watched it. The thing that threw me about it was the rapid-fire conversation saturated with witticisms. I'm mean really rapid. The characters in that show think and talk faster than in any other piece of media I've ever seen. It didn't sound natural at all and prevented me from suspending my disbelief.

Have you ever watched The West Wing ?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 02, 2014, 06:29:04 pm
: : : :: :: : ::
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 02, 2014, 06:35:58 pm
: : : :: :: : ::

That's tautological.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 02, 2014, 06:45:44 pm
: : : :: :: : ::

That's tautological.

Tautologies usually are.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 02, 2014, 06:47:07 pm
:( : :) :: :[ : :]
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on October 02, 2014, 07:01:04 pm
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :: : : : :  ::  11 : 10 :: 2 : 1
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 02, 2014, 07:13:43 pm
I caught bits of Gilmore Girls back in the day when my mother and sister watched it. The thing that threw me about it was the rapid-fire conversation saturated with witticisms. I'm mean really rapid. The characters in that show think and talk faster than in any other piece of media I've ever seen. It didn't sound natural at all and prevented me from suspending my disbelief.

But not faster than people talk in real life.

Have you ever watched The West Wing?

This.  The judges would also have accepted almost anything else by Aaron Sorkin.

Also:  http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB1037053554251611508

And as that article points out, Moonlighting.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 02, 2014, 07:24:21 pm
Sports Night for the win.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on October 02, 2014, 11:34:07 pm
:(){ :|:& };:
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 02, 2014, 11:52:12 pm
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Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 03, 2014, 12:17:22 am
I'm sorry, fellas, I cannot play Dominion tonight. I've been eaten by a grue.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 03, 2014, 03:35:27 am
i had a dominon dream! (well, sort of)

we (no idea who we is, but I was one of them) were testing the new promo. unfortunately, I don't remember the text, although I think it was read out loud twice, but it started with "nudge the first card of your deck," then there was a "resolve this: " clause and some more obscure stuff that was neither a real sentence nor did it make much sense. something about gold. when I read it, I was like, "but donald always payed so much attention to wordings, this is weird. maybe he is trolling us?" I also remembered an older version of this promo, which was something like "+1 action, either draw to x, or dig for an action card and put it into your hand. If you have already played this card this turn, instead draw a card". That (not what I just paraphrased) was worded correctly and made at least some sense, but for the new one, I couldn't figure out what it even does, so I didn't get why he changed it.

Then I played it to see what it does. my opponent got a gold in his hand. I believed to understand that, if I have a gold in my hand too, this card allows me to discard it and get it/a new one in my hand again, but my opponent just gets a gold in his hand, so I assumed there must have been something that I was missing.

and that was it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 03, 2014, 06:44:11 am
I think this is relevant again.

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic801746_md.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on October 03, 2014, 11:48:39 am
Just started watching Gilmore girls now it's on netflix. I shouldn't be surprised it's so good conifer ing how many friends have recommended it. But for reals, watch this show.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 03, 2014, 12:01:44 pm
Just started watching Gilmore girls now it's on netflix. I shouldn't be surprised it's so good conifer ing how many friends have recommended it. But for reals, watch this show.

I guess I should give it a shot for-reals. Probably I'll get used to the unnatural-sounding dialogue if I can watch it from the beginning and get to know the characters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 03, 2014, 12:08:06 pm
Just started watching Gilmore girls now it's on netflix. I shouldn't be surprised it's so good conifer ing how many friends have recommended it. But for reals, watch this show.

I guess I should give it a shot for-reals. Probably I'll get used to the unnatural-sounding dialogue if I can watch it from the beginning and get to know the characters.

Just start talking liket hat in every day life.  It will catch on.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 03, 2014, 12:18:19 pm
Is suspicious.

The show never really interested me before. Maybe I'll give Gillmore Girls a shot. I was wrong about Fight Club until online people I trust showed me the errors of my ways (technically, the errors of the marketing department, because Fight Club trailers looked dumb as shit).

First I need to finish up Caprica. I have other shows I intend to watch (Dexter, for example), but I may bump up Gillmore Girls. Oof, 7 seasons. That could be quite a stretch. I was so exhausted watching all 7 seasons of Buffy that I still haven't brought myself to watch Angel.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 03, 2014, 12:18:59 pm
My healthy breakfast today:

Blueberries, raspberries, sliced almonds, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, flax seed, blueberry kefir.

I think that means I win, right?

Remembered the coconut today. Now I actually do win.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 03, 2014, 12:27:33 pm
Kuildous, if you ever watch Dexter, I recommend either :
- stopping at the 2nd season
- stopping at the 4th season (which is good but the 3rd season is meh)
- stopping at the 5th season (which I found decent but many people hate)

The 6th, 7th and 8th seasons are horrible. Horrible. Don't listen to the people who will tell you that the 7th season had a creative resurgence : they are lying/wrong. You can still watch the finale and enjoy it in all its glory (it doesn't make more sense if you've watched the previous seasons anyway).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on October 03, 2014, 12:29:05 pm
You cannot be a Dexter fan and not watch the 4th season.  The season four finale is one of the all-time great episodes of television.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 03, 2014, 12:29:09 pm
Sounds like a complaint to me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 03, 2014, 12:31:10 pm
Sounds like a complaint to me.

Nope. Nobody forced me to watch all those seasons of Dexter, I did it to myself !
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 03, 2014, 12:32:23 pm
Sounds like a complaint to me.

Nope. Nobody forced me to watch all those seasons of Dexter, I did it to myself !


Bet you'd be pissed if you woke up tomorrow and the 8th season was on your iPad!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 03, 2014, 01:08:24 pm
Sounds like a complaint to me.

Nope. Nobody forced me to watch all those seasons of Dexter, I did it to myself !


Bet you'd be pissed if you woke up tomorrow and the 8th season was on your iPad!

Easy workaround : I don't own an iPad !
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 03, 2014, 01:37:58 pm
Kuildous, if you ever watch Dexter, I recommend either :
- stopping at the 2nd season
- stopping at the 4th season (which is good but the 3rd season is meh)
- stopping at the 5th season (which I found decent but many people hate)

The 6th, 7th and 8th seasons are horrible. Horrible. Don't listen to the people who will tell you that the 7th season had a creative resurgence : they are lying/wrong. You can still watch the finale and enjoy it in all its glory (it doesn't make more sense if you've watched the previous seasons anyway).

Wow, so it sounds like I should treat Dexter in a similar way as the Machete method Star Wars (which is to watch 4, 5, 2, 3, and 6 in that order, and fuck episode 1—assuming you have to watch the prequels, which you don't).

I wonder if a huge pan has compiled a list of must-watch episodes. I suppose that going by season will work, especially since I'm sure it's serial and not granular. I may ask my co-worker her thoughts on your suggestion. I know she hated the finale, so she's not afraid to share her opinion. 

Speaking of which, you used "finale" and "glory" in the same sentence. I've heard people bitch about the finale. Is it really because it's the pinnacle of a shitty season?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 03, 2014, 01:49:43 pm
It's the pinnacle of three awful years. It is probably the worst finale in in the history of TV shows that were once good.

Dexter has a per-season structure, so I don't think there is a list of episodes to avoid. If you watch a season, you should watch it entirely. It would probably work the other way around : avoid season X, but still watch that one episode out of that season for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 03, 2014, 02:35:25 pm
It's the pinnacle of three awful years. It is probably the worst finale in in the history of TV shows that were once good.

Dexter has a per-season structure, so I don't think there is a list of episodes to avoid. If you watch a season, you should watch it entirely. It would probably work the other way around : avoid season X, but still watch that one episode out of that season for whatever reason.

That's one great thing about American Horror Story. If there's a bad season* then you can easily skip to the next season with no loss whatsoever.

*They haven't yet had a bad season.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 03, 2014, 06:48:47 pm
So... Smash Bros!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on October 03, 2014, 06:54:34 pm
It's really not that difficult with Dexter. Like with any other show, if you are not liking it for a prolonged period of time, stop watching. Whatever you do, don't continue past the finale of the 4th season. If you somehow forgot and started with season 5, for the love of god stop there. If you feel an urge to break these rules, watch the last episode of the series and you'll understand what everyone was talking about.

Honestly, if I were to describe the ending of the show to you right now, you would straight up think I'm making it up. It's that ridiculous.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 03, 2014, 07:11:07 pm
I think I'll watch just Season 8.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on October 03, 2014, 07:30:57 pm
Julia Stiles or Yvonne Strahovski?

I think I was partial to the latter.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Eevee on October 03, 2014, 07:34:08 pm
Julia Stiles or Yvonne Strahovski?

I think I was partial to the latter.
Oh god. How about neither? Horrible, horrible characters.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on October 03, 2014, 07:49:31 pm
Julia Stiles or Yvonne Strahovski?

I think I was partial to the latter.
Oh god. How about neither? Horrible, horrible characters.

characters? who's talking about characters? I'm talking about women.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 04, 2014, 05:05:19 am
Julia Stiles or Yvonne Strahovski?

I think I was partial to the latter.
Oh god. How about neither? Horrible, horrible characters.

Lumen was an interesting character. I'm a season 5 apologist and I will fight for it to be recognized as an interesting season with a terrible finale !

And the answer depends : in terms of hotness, Yvonne Strahovski. For acting ability, Julia Stihles.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 04, 2014, 07:18:23 am
So... Smash Bros!

Personally I'm waiting for the Wii U version. Although if it's not being released until February or something, I might change my mind. And sadly I'm slowly beginning to suspect that (announcing a December release date in mid October seems a little late, when we've known the SSB3DS release date for like 4 months or something).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 04, 2014, 07:39:01 am
Haven't they said, like... Holidays? Wouldn't it be SUPER bad not to have it available for christmas?

The 3DS version is very enjoyable. Me, luliin and a couple of friends got together yesterday to play some, and we intend to continue today and tomorrow. And probably everytime we meet for as long as we have 3DS. But being a Smash Bros game, I'm not that surprised.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 04, 2014, 08:02:00 am
Haven't they said, like... Holidays? Wouldn't it be SUPER bad not to have it available for christmas?

The 3DS version is very enjoyable. Me, luliin and a couple of friends got together yesterday to play some, and we intend to continue today and tomorrow. And probably everytime we meet for as long as we have 3DS. But being a Smash Bros game, I'm not that surprised.

They said Winter 2014 for the Wii U version, and Summer 2014 for the 3DS version. The 3DS version came out in September, which is technically still summer but is late Q3, so buisness wise it's more what they'd call Autumn.

I expect that if the game were/is very close to finished they'd rush for a Christmas release, which is why I said February. I think a January release is very unlikely, since it'd just get rushed through.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 04, 2014, 10:53:14 am
How do the controls on 3DS compare to console? I've never played it on my own time so I always just ended up button smashing with friends. I'm seriously considering getting the 3DS version just so I don't embarrass myself in the future.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 04, 2014, 10:58:09 am
How do the controls on 3DS compare to console? I've never played it on my own time so I always just ended up button smashing with friends. I'm seriously considering getting the 3DS version just so I don't embarrass myself in the future.

I keep on attacking instead of jumping on accident on the 3DS, so I have no idea.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 04, 2014, 12:00:15 pm
I want a 3DS for Ocarina of Time. I just realized how nerdy that sounded taking into account I already have OoT on N64.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 04, 2014, 12:01:38 pm
I want a 3DS for Ocarina of Time. I just realized hiw nerdy that sounded taking into account I already have OoT on N64.

The 3D is nice. Also, the graphics are updated with better textures. Most importantly, it includes the 2nd quest, although unfortunately you have to beat the game normally first to unlock it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on October 04, 2014, 12:14:30 pm
13 was our lucky number last night at Factory of Terror in Canton, OH. It always helps to bring a few "scaredy cat" types as well.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 04, 2014, 01:23:15 pm
13 was our lucky number last night at Factory of Terror in Canton, OH. It always helps to bring a few "scaredy cat" types as well.

Whoa, whoa, there's another Ohio person here??
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on October 04, 2014, 01:29:36 pm
Terrifying, right?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 04, 2014, 03:08:29 pm
Quote from: dominion wiki
Apprentice and Market Market Square is a very strong combo, nearly as strong as Hermit and Market Square.

argh
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 04, 2014, 03:31:03 pm
Quote from: dominion wiki
Apprentice and Market Market Square is a very strong combo, nearly as strong as Hermit and Market Square.

argh
Often, it is exactly as strong as Hermit/Market Square would be if it was in the kingdom (you have to go for it or you lose).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 04, 2014, 03:42:15 pm
This is where I'm playing tonight.

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/20141004_135138_zps6ykm5jm5.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 04, 2014, 03:53:22 pm
Quote from: dominion wiki
Apprentice and Market Market Square is a very strong combo, nearly as strong as Hermit and Market Square.

argh
Often, it is exactly as strong as Hermit/Market Square would be if it was in the kingdom (you have to go for it or you lose).
man, it's better. for some reason hermit/MS gets more attention, but apprentice/MS is the stronger combo. and for some reason this sentence bothers me.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 04, 2014, 03:55:50 pm
or maybe my intuition is just way off and i'm complaining for no reaosn
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: blueblimp on October 04, 2014, 04:55:11 pm
Quote from: dominion wiki
Apprentice and Market Market Square is a very strong combo, nearly as strong as Hermit and Market Square.

argh
Often, it is exactly as strong as Hermit/Market Square would be if it was in the kingdom (you have to go for it or you lose).
man, it's better. for some reason hermit/MS gets more attention, but apprentice/MS is the stronger combo. and for some reason this sentence bothers me.
In my opinion, the reason Hermit/MS gets attention is that it's a tricky combo to pull off. First you need to hit particular numbers of every card that is in your deck. Then you must patiently wait until the appropriate time to fire the combo, because once the Madmen are gone you can't combo off anymore.

Apprentice/MS on the other hand is straightforward, unless there is some subtlety that I'm missing. Buy Apprentices, buy Market Squares, trash Golds, win.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: soulnet on October 04, 2014, 06:53:31 pm
The question is, 1. who wins in a head to head matchup? It seems to me that Hermit/MS would win. Maybe (probably) a mix is better than both. 2. who wins more often against other strong strategies?

It seems to me that Hermit/MS is more resilient to junking, but less resilient to discard attacks. Apprentice/MS, OTOH, is more able to incorporate other powerful stuff (like Goons, Bridge, KC, Possession), so its not a strategy but a combo that can run different strategies. Also, App/MS can use support a lot, while most cards do not help Hermit/MS too much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on October 04, 2014, 08:33:43 pm
In a kingdom with only hermit, market square, and apprentice, I would ignore apprentice. If there are 7 other cards, more often than not I still ignore apprentice, but not always.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on October 04, 2014, 11:18:59 pm
Hey, I actually did semi-okay in a programming competition! Not super good, just barely into ~top third of participants at my school, but that was good enough to win a duffel bag with Google's logo on it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: soulnet on October 04, 2014, 11:24:14 pm
Hey, I actually did semi-okay in a programming competition! Not super good, just barely into ~top third of participants at my school, but that was good enough to win a duffel bag with Google's logo on it.

When was this? It is possible that I wrote the problems.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on October 05, 2014, 01:00:02 am
Hey, I actually did semi-okay in a programming competition! Not super good, just barely into ~top third of participants at my school, but that was good enough to win a duffel bag with Google's logo on it.

When was this? It is possible that I wrote the problems.

Today. I don't think it's likely you wrote the problems, unless you happen to be the professor who wrote the contest.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 05, 2014, 01:48:05 am
In a kingdom with only hermit, market square, and apprentice, I would ignore apprentice. If there are 7 other cards, more often than not I still ignore apprentice, but not always.


I'll do a bunch of single player games later today and see which is faster. though it's probably more accurate to race for 4 provinces, not 8.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 05, 2014, 01:56:55 am
In a kingdom with only hermit, market square, and apprentice, I would ignore apprentice. If there are 7 other cards, more often than not I still ignore apprentice, but not always.


I'll do a bunch of single player games later today and see which is faster. though it's probably more accurate to race for 4 provinces, not 8.

Keep in mind that in a matchup, both people want market squares.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 05, 2014, 02:14:26 am
In a kingdom with only hermit, market square, and apprentice, I would ignore apprentice. If there are 7 other cards, more often than not I still ignore apprentice, but not always.


I'll do a bunch of single player games later today and see which is faster. though it's probably more accurate to race for 4 provinces, not 8.

Keep in mind that in a matchup, both people want market squares.

that doesn't matter though, you don't need more than 3 market squares for the combo with apprentice. more don't hurt, but don't add much either.

with hermit, you probably want more, but I doubt that you want more than 7.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 05, 2014, 02:14:37 am
In a kingdom with only hermit, market square, and apprentice, I would ignore apprentice. If there are 7 other cards, more often than not I still ignore apprentice, but not always.


I'll do a bunch of single player games later today and see which is faster. though it's probably more accurate to race for 4 provinces, not 8.
Hermit/Market Square's speed is usually highly dependent on the opponent's speed, though; you can get 9 Hermits and a million Market Squares if your opponent is slow to guarantee that your attempt to go off won't fail and that you will have enough money and buys to win the game, but if you're in a pinch, you can pull it off with as few as 4 Hermits in a very short amount of time (especially if the piles are low and you can 3-pile instead of having to rely on Provinces).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 05, 2014, 04:26:23 am
okay... it's not that clear cut, but I believe hermit/MS is actually slightly better. but mostly apprentice/MS is just more swingy. I think with perfect draws it's better, but you often get random dead turns in between. it's hard to say. but hermit seems better on average. so, props to the article.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 05, 2014, 07:06:36 am
How do the controls on 3DS compare to console? I've never played it on my own time so I always just ended up button smashing with friends. I'm seriously considering getting the 3DS version just so I don't embarrass myself in the future.

The big difference, in my opinion, is the 3DS control stick. It's very different from that of a GC, Classic Controller or a Nunchuck. Or even an N64 one. It took me some time getting used to it, but now I rarely do a forward B when I intend to do up B. Aside from that, I did have the same problem as Sudgy (attacking instead of jumping) but that was very easy to get used to.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: soulnet on October 05, 2014, 11:28:49 am
Today. I don't think it's likely you wrote the problems, unless you happen to be the professor who wrote the contest.

:). I used to write lots of problems for some programming contests Google ran on colleges like 4 or 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 05, 2014, 03:15:38 pm
I was bored so I designed a maze.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16948609/stupid%20maze.png)

I'm still a newbie at this. Any comments?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on October 05, 2014, 03:28:09 pm
I'm not letting you design my dreams.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 05, 2014, 03:30:53 pm
and breaking the walls of my rational maze
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 05, 2014, 07:23:31 pm
This is what I've been working on recently:

(http://i.imgur.com/rjFPni6.png)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 05, 2014, 07:26:50 pm
Do the colours mean anything?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 05, 2014, 08:00:40 pm
Do the colours mean anything?

...Yes.  It's a four dimensional Rubik's Cube.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 05, 2014, 08:10:58 pm
Does it not show the eighth cell?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 05, 2014, 08:15:19 pm
Does it not show the eighth cell?

No, it doesn't.  You can rotate it so it shows it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 05, 2014, 08:38:41 pm
How do the controls on 3DS compare to console? I've never played it on my own time so I always just ended up button smashing with friends. I'm seriously considering getting the 3DS version just so I don't embarrass myself in the future.

The big difference, in my opinion, is the 3DS control stick. It's very different from that of a GC, Classic Controller or a Nunchuck. Or even an N64 one. It took me some time getting used to it, but now I rarely do a forward B when I intend to do up B. Aside from that, I did have the same problem as Sudgy (attacking instead of jumping) but that was very easy to get used to.

Did they flip the buttons for attacking and jumping?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on October 05, 2014, 08:46:24 pm
How do the controls on 3DS compare to console? I've never played it on my own time so I always just ended up button smashing with friends. I'm seriously considering getting the 3DS version just so I don't embarrass myself in the future.

The big difference, in my opinion, is the 3DS control stick. It's very different from that of a GC, Classic Controller or a Nunchuck. Or even an N64 one. It took me some time getting used to it, but now I rarely do a forward B when I intend to do up B. Aside from that, I did have the same problem as Sudgy (attacking instead of jumping) but that was very easy to get used to.

Did they flip the buttons for attacking and jumping?
3DS button layout is different from the typical Smash bros. (Gamecube controller) layout.  Same named button does the same things, but they aren't quite in the same place.  I had issues with this too when I played the demo on my friend's 3DS
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on October 05, 2014, 08:57:02 pm
Is there a way to change the input?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 05, 2014, 11:49:28 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VufDd-QL1c0
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on October 06, 2014, 12:17:16 am
Wow, that brings back memories!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: scott_pilgrim on October 06, 2014, 01:42:03 am
How do the controls on 3DS compare to console? I've never played it on my own time so I always just ended up button smashing with friends. I'm seriously considering getting the 3DS version just so I don't embarrass myself in the future.

The big difference, in my opinion, is the 3DS control stick. It's very different from that of a GC, Classic Controller or a Nunchuck. Or even an N64 one. It took me some time getting used to it, but now I rarely do a forward B when I intend to do up B. Aside from that, I did have the same problem as Sudgy (attacking instead of jumping) but that was very easy to get used to.

Did they flip the buttons for attacking and jumping?
3DS button layout is different from the typical Smash bros. (Gamecube controller) layout.  Same named button does the same things, but they aren't quite in the same place.  I had issues with this too when I played the demo on my friend's 3DS

It's interesting that so many people are having trouble with this; I didn't even think about it and was automatically pressing the right buttons for jumping/attacking.  Maybe it's a difference between people who are used to Y-jumping on the GC controller and people who are used to X?  (I usually used X in Brawl/Melee.)

What I found disorienting was L to grab; I'm used to using R to shield and Z to grab on the GC controller, so I want that finger to do both.  I set Y to grab instead (since I can't have R grab and shield), which I like better than L, though I'm probably in the minority on that.

Is there a way to change the input?

Yeah, controls are customizable like in Brawl.  It feels like there's less flexibility though, probably because there are fewer buttons/sticks on the 3DS than the GC controller (well, I guess just one fewer button and one fewer stick, but the absence of the C-stick is a big difference I think).
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 06, 2014, 08:44:42 am
i just replayed the campaign of sc1 + bw. will blizzard ever make something that's anywhere near as good as this game?

the answer is no.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 06, 2014, 08:57:19 am
Especially since you can't play SC2 without an internet connection.

So I'm definitely hanging onto my copy of SC1. Next internet outage, I may boot it back up.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 06, 2014, 09:34:41 am
I saw Hair over the weekend. I'm not sure that I'm that impressed by it. The music was good, and the production value was extraordinary. I guess I just expected more of a plot. It reminds me of Cats where the story takes a back seat to song and dance.

But we don't get enough naked hippies on stage, so that was fun too.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 06, 2014, 10:43:56 am
can someone explain in a few words what μ and 3σ mean on the leaderboard? is μ the estimated skill and σ the estimated uncertainty?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 06, 2014, 10:47:28 am
can someone explain in a few words what μ and 3σ mean on the leaderboard? is μ the estimated skill and σ the estimated uncertainty?
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: soulnet on October 06, 2014, 10:47:50 am
can someone explain in a few words what μ and 3σ mean on the leaderboard? is μ the estimated skill and σ the estimated uncertainty?

yes
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 06, 2014, 10:49:18 am
Good work on sticking to "a few words", guys.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 06, 2014, 11:05:53 am
I took a deep breath and started reading "A Crown of Swords". Wish me luck, I may not make it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: KingZog3 on October 06, 2014, 11:09:20 am
I took a deep breath and started reading "A Crown of Swords". Wish me luck, I may not make it.

Sounds like a game of thrones knock off. I don't like the sound of it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on October 06, 2014, 11:16:13 am
It's part of the famous A Ballad of Cold and Hot series.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 06, 2014, 11:17:14 am
I took a deep breath and started reading "A Crown of Swords". Wish me luck, I may not make it.

Sounds like a game of thrones knock off. I don't like the sound of it.

It was published the same year as Game of Thrones but don't worry, nobody is going to argue about which is better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 06, 2014, 11:25:41 am
anyone knows why this guy (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tpCqbcZdyTCBM) left the community? he seems pretty awesome
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 06, 2014, 11:28:00 am
anyone knows why this guy (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tpCqbcZdyTCBM) left the community? he seems pretty awesome

School maybe?  ADK knows him in real life, I think.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 06, 2014, 11:29:28 am
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   HAHAHAHAHHAHA I WANT THE SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETS
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 06, 2014, 11:32:23 am
"Damn it Andrew, you're onto me."

I had him pegged!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 06, 2014, 12:07:02 pm
Why did I wait until a Sunday evening to start playing Wasteland 2? Now I have to wait until I get home to continue playing. I have no one to blame but myself.

Interesting how they reference some of the iconic characters from the first Wasteland.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 06, 2014, 01:49:38 pm
I only have the demo, but I like the controls of SSB4 on 3DS. It's not as good as GCN controller control, but that controller was pretty much the best controller any console I've played has had, so whatever. L for grab, R for shield is nice and effective, and for me felt fairly intuitive although I know for others it wasn't. It's tough to do tilt attacks, but that's always been the case really.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 06, 2014, 02:19:11 pm
I think the tilt attacks are easy to do. Except for up tilt if you have tap jump enabled. On the other hand, I sometimes fail making smash attacks. I blame the silly circle pad thingie...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 06, 2014, 02:45:26 pm
Except for up tilt if you have tap jump enabled.

That's why my first thing is always disable tap jump (not really, but it's pretty quick).

Also, Eevee, they put you in the game!  But he doesn't do much...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on October 06, 2014, 03:36:18 pm
"Damn it Andrew, you're onto me."

I had him pegged!
I keep forgetting to trust your reads!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 06, 2014, 03:39:34 pm
"Damn it Andrew, you're onto me."

I had him pegged!

I ended up following you on this, but by that time you wanted to lynch me instead :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on October 06, 2014, 04:36:09 pm
anyone knows why this guy (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tpCqbcZdyTCBM) left the community? he seems pretty awesome

that was a good read, thanks.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 06, 2014, 04:36:57 pm
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Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on October 06, 2014, 05:23:09 pm
http://eduscapes.com/nonfiction/images/nprinfographic.jpg
Speaking of awesome sci-fi/fantasy books... Anyone here read Red Rising?  I got the audiobook in the last audiobook humble bundle and let me just say, it's the new hunger games but much much better.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on October 06, 2014, 07:03:48 pm
http://eduscapes.com/nonfiction/images/nprinfographic.jpg

I am kind of disappointed where they put Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles on this chart.  I could really see those books following the flow chart down to where A Song of Ice and Fire and The Stormlight Archive are located under incomplete series.  Speaking of which, I need to start reading The Way of Kings, which a friend recommended to me, I bought, but have yet to begin reading.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: mail-mi on October 06, 2014, 09:39:51 pm
http://eduscapes.com/nonfiction/images/nprinfographic.jpg

I am kind of disappointed where they put Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles on this chart.  I could really see those books following the flow chart down to where A Song of Ice and Fire and The Stormlight Archive are located under incomplete series.  Speaking of which, I need to start reading The Way of Kings, which a friend recommended to me, I bought, but have yet to begin reading.

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YOU DO.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 06, 2014, 11:13:29 pm
No Glen Cook is an issue.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 07, 2014, 08:21:56 am
I've started to chew on my hair a lot... but hair tastes really bad. i should try to drop this habit, but that's not easy. maybe i have to get short hair again.

difficult problems right here.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 07, 2014, 08:27:09 am
You are not eating your hair, right? The stomach can't digest hair, so it will eventually build up there and you would need an operation to get rid of it.

I am a supporter of short hair. It's so much more convenient.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 07, 2014, 08:27:43 am
It could be the pink dye....
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 07, 2014, 08:36:55 am
but hair tastes really bad.
You should try washing it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 07, 2014, 08:44:07 am
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You are not eating your hair, right?
no. that would be gross.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 07, 2014, 08:45:53 am
but hair tastes really bad.
You should try washing it.
why do you think it smells so good? <_<
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on October 07, 2014, 08:46:41 am
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w634/brandoneqy26/61062237-F82D-4357-961D-EF73912C16FB-789-0000011CA50C5F85_zps81e51b1d.jpg)

(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w634/brandoneqy26/71C81818-DD97-4B2B-8C9B-6D2ABCBD37CA-278-0000001E1910A610_zps00ef07d8.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 07, 2014, 09:29:16 am
I've started to chew on my hair a lot... but hair tastes really bad. i should try to drop this habit, but that's not easy. maybe i have to get short hair again.

difficult problems right here.

When I had long hair, I had a habit of chewing on it. I've seen some girls do it too. It's just one of those habits that some people have when they have long hair.

My cure was to shave it all off, but I didn't shave it off because I was chewing it. Really, I didn't even see the chewing as a problem. I suppose it might have been unsightly. Certainly it would have been offputting if I did that during a business meeting, but I don't think my habit was so bad that I made it a public spectacle.

So no idea how to solve that, other than removing the hair. That's not something I endorse easily because I know that when it's gone, you can't really get it back.

Well, okay, I probably could grow my hair out again, but I would end up looking a lot like Riff Raff.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on October 07, 2014, 10:20:59 am
http://eduscapes.com/nonfiction/images/nprinfographic.jpg

I am kind of disappointed where they put Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles on this chart.  I could really see those books following the flow chart down to where A Song of Ice and Fire and The Stormlight Archive are located under incomplete series.  Speaking of which, I need to start reading The Way of Kings, which a friend recommended to me, I bought, but have yet to begin reading.

I enjoyed it. Is this series ever gonna get finished? I haven't heard anything in a long time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 07, 2014, 10:26:03 am
You are not eating your hair, right? The stomach can't digest hair, so it will eventually build up there and you would need an operation to get rid of it.

No.  The stomach also can't digest cellulose, but you're supposed to eat several grams a day of cellulose.  Your body will pass hair out of your intestines just like poorly-chewed food.

Also, dude, my three-year-old has almost stopped chewing her hair.  You can too...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 07, 2014, 10:27:31 am
Alright who the hell took the username AndrewisFTTW on Spotify? This isn't funny.

EDIT: Oh, I did. Weird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 07, 2014, 10:30:14 am
Man, got stomped by Omnitron last night in Sentinels. That normally doesn't happen.

Our first mistake was fighting it in Rook City. It also doesn't help that Haka and the Naturalist couldn't keep the damage output consistently high. Absolute Zero and Argent Adept theoretically could kick ass, but Omnitron has a nasty habit of wiping cards in play, and they both just floundered the entire game.

It was brutal.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 07, 2014, 10:34:12 am
http://eduscapes.com/nonfiction/images/nprinfographic.jpg

I am kind of disappointed where they put Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles on this chart.  I could really see those books following the flow chart down to where A Song of Ice and Fire and The Stormlight Archive are located under incomplete series.  Speaking of which, I need to start reading The Way of Kings, which a friend recommended to me, I bought, but have yet to begin reading.

I enjoyed it. Is this series ever gonna get finished? I haven't heard anything in a long time.

The Kingkiller Chronicles?  Probably 2015 for the third book.  Stormlight Archive just released its second book not too long ago, so I wouldn't expect the next one for a couple years.  The nice thing about Sanderson is he actually tells you his progress on his page: http://brandonsanderson.com/
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 07, 2014, 10:40:05 am
(http://i.imgur.com/crY3dEs.jpg) (http://imgur.com/crY3dEs)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: jonts26 on October 07, 2014, 11:11:48 am
http://eduscapes.com/nonfiction/images/nprinfographic.jpg

I am kind of disappointed where they put Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles on this chart.  I could really see those books following the flow chart down to where A Song of Ice and Fire and The Stormlight Archive are located under incomplete series.  Speaking of which, I need to start reading The Way of Kings, which a friend recommended to me, I bought, but have yet to begin reading.

I enjoyed it. Is this series ever gonna get finished? I haven't heard anything in a long time.

The Kingkiller Chronicles?  Probably 2015 for the third book.  Stormlight Archive just released its second book not too long ago, so I wouldn't expect the next one for a couple years.  The nice thing about Sanderson is he actually tells you his progress on his page: http://brandonsanderson.com/

The other nice thing about Sanderson is he's a writing machine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: mail-mi on October 07, 2014, 11:24:38 am
http://eduscapes.com/nonfiction/images/nprinfographic.jpg

I am kind of disappointed where they put Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles on this chart.  I could really see those books following the flow chart down to where A Song of Ice and Fire and The Stormlight Archive are located under incomplete series.  Speaking of which, I need to start reading The Way of Kings, which a friend recommended to me, I bought, but have yet to begin reading.

I enjoyed it. Is this series ever gonna get finished? I haven't heard anything in a long time.

The Kingkiller Chronicles?  Probably 2015 for the third book.  Stormlight Archive just released its second book not too long ago, so I wouldn't expect the next one for a couple years.  The nice thing about Sanderson is he actually tells you his progress on his page: http://brandonsanderson.com/

The other nice thing about Sanderson is he's a writing machine.
Sanderson is, like, the best author EVUR.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 07, 2014, 11:25:35 am
His standalone books are really good, too.  Elantris and Warbreaker were exceptional.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Dsell on October 07, 2014, 11:36:54 am
Someone mentioned Elantris on here somewhere and I picked it up on Amazon. Reading it now.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 07, 2014, 11:38:10 am
You are not eating your hair, right? The stomach can't digest hair, so it will eventually build up there and you would need an operation to get rid of it.

No.  The stomach also can't digest cellulose, but you're supposed to eat several grams a day of cellulose.  Your body will pass hair out of your intestines just like poorly-chewed food.

Hair gets stuck in your stomach just the same way it gets stuck in your sink. The clinical name of the condition is Trichobezoar (google it if you want pretty pictures); note that cats vomit hairballs, rather than get rid of them the normal way.
It's usually only a problem for humans when they are compulsively eating hair, which is rare, but it can prove fatal if not treated in time.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: WalrusMcFishSr on October 07, 2014, 11:49:19 am
Bear in mind though that a bezoar acts as an antidote to most poisons. So it might actually be a benefit.

(Note however I am not a licensed doctor or potions master)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 07, 2014, 12:02:38 pm
Well, you need to add mandragora root, and the screaming variety is pretty hard to find these days.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 07, 2014, 12:05:13 pm
I think the tilt attacks are easy to do. Except for up tilt if you have tap jump enabled. On the other hand, I sometimes fail making smash attacks. I blame the silly circle pad thingie...

I have to disagree. Lightly tap the control stick (or circle pad on 3DS), do a Smash attack. Tilt it more slowly, do a jab. I've never managed to find a middle ground that makes tilts easy to do quickly.

Fortunately, the GCN controller has the C stick for tilts, which is nice.

In other Smash news, release date finally announced: 5th December. I'm happy about that as a release date, except for one little thing: Why does the US get it two weeks earlier, when we got a simultaneous 3DS release?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 07, 2014, 12:22:04 pm
In other Smash news, release date finally announced: 5th December. I'm happy about that as a release date, except for one little thing: Why does the US get it two weeks earlier, when we got a simultaneous 3DS release?

We're, uh, tasting it for you. To make sure it's not poisoned.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: shraeye on October 07, 2014, 01:05:24 pm
I shouldn't be surprised it's so good conifer ing
I am surprised that it's so good conifering.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Polk5440 on October 07, 2014, 02:39:00 pm

In other Smash news, release date finally announced: 5th December. I'm happy about that as a release date, except for one little thing: Why does the US get it two weeks earlier, when we got a simultaneous 3DS release?

My first guess is that they fell behind on the localization for some regions. This is too important a game for the holiday season to delay all versions until the last one is done.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 07, 2014, 04:52:17 pm

In other Smash news, release date finally announced: 5th December. I'm happy about that as a release date, except for one little thing: Why does the US get it two weeks earlier, when we got a simultaneous 3DS release?

My first guess is that they fell behind on the localization for some regions. This is too important a game for the holiday season to delay all versions until the last one is done.

Yes, probably. Something in the European version that needed a little extra time - or possibly for the US release to hit that Friday which is Black.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on October 07, 2014, 08:35:50 pm
I guess there's a new video game coming out that will be a big deal? I'm waiting for Fallout 4.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 07, 2014, 08:49:19 pm
I am waiting for the game that will make me feel again like the first time I played Golden Sun.

...I write things like this and I realize that I am old despite being young.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 07, 2014, 08:53:33 pm
I am waiting for the game that will make me feel again like the first time I played Golden Sun.

...I write things like this and I realize that I am old despite being young.

I recently played through Golden Sun and Lost Age. They were pretty good but there were some things that annoyed the hell out of me that I just can't get past.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 07, 2014, 08:54:06 pm
I am waiting for the game that will make me feel again like the first time I played Golden Sun.

That's how I feel about Phantom Brave.

I couldn't get into Golden Sun. I tried, but the intro was interminable. I guess I'm spoiled, but it's nice when a game throws you right into the action and saves some exposition for later.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 07, 2014, 09:05:26 pm
It was more a comment about the fact that you lose that capacity to feel awed when you are not a kid anymore. That game was magical for mini-me. Much more than the other games I had played before.

With some distance, the game itself is just a well-executed jRPG. It has an original approach to classes, some cute puzzles, beautiful graphics for its era, and more random encounters than any game should have, but the last one comes with the genre. Oh, and the inventory interface was so good, it spoiled me for all other games afterwards. I didn't mind the cutscenes: when you are a kid the limiting resource is not time, but money, so I enjoyed them.

The second was nice because of the new perspective on the World events, but the gameplay had lost a little bit of the spirit from the first one.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 07, 2014, 09:23:11 pm
Speaking of nostalgia, I loved Secret of Mana when I was a kid. Looking back now, I still like its characters, world, art style, and music. But the combat is just a list of things not to do in that kind of adventure game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AndrewisFTTW on October 07, 2014, 09:31:18 pm
Probably the first jRPG I played was Chrono Trigger and I played the hell out of it. So I guess I'm spoiled because of it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on October 07, 2014, 09:36:43 pm
I've never played a JRPG, but the first CRPG I played was Geneforge 1, eight years ago. It is still my favorite RPG.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: blueblimp on October 07, 2014, 09:59:53 pm
Probably the first jRPG I played was Chrono Trigger and I played the hell out of it. So I guess I'm spoiled because of it.
Chrono Trigger is so great. It ages really well, maybe because it didn't have random encounters. My first JRPG was FF7, and although I enjoyed it at the time, I think the random encounters would get annoying if I played it again.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: soulnet on October 07, 2014, 10:01:44 pm
Morbid humor is like a right leg: some people have it, and some people don't.

Sorry, I could not take any more videogame talk in a non-videogame thread.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 07, 2014, 10:06:57 pm
Morbid humor is like a right leg: some people have it, and some people don't.

Sorry, I could not take any more videogame talk in a non-videogame thread.

I used to have a right leg like you.  Then I took an arrow to the knee.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: AHoppy on October 07, 2014, 10:16:05 pm
Morbid humor is like a right leg: some people have it, and some people don't.

Sorry, I could not take any more videogame talk in a non-videogame thread.

I used to have a right leg like you.  Then I took an arrow to the knee.
I see what you did there... Not sure if I should upvote because "funny", or not because terrible...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on October 07, 2014, 10:19:21 pm
Auctioneers love morbid humor.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 07, 2014, 10:32:23 pm
Dammit. I avoided cookie clicker. Then I found this sonuvabitch:
http://www.clickerheroes.com/

*glare*
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 07, 2014, 10:34:07 pm
Speaking of nostalgia, I loved Secret of Mana when I was a kid. Looking back now, I still like its characters, world, art style, and music. But the combat is just a list of things not to do in that kind of adventure game.

I remember leveling up all the weapon and magic skills to like 12 or whatever.  so much grinding..

Did you play Secret of Evermore?  That was a heck of a grinding system.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 07, 2014, 11:01:20 pm
Speaking of nostalgia, I loved Secret of Mana when I was a kid. Looking back now, I still like its characters, world, art style, and music. But the combat is just a list of things not to do in that kind of adventure game.

I remember leveling up all the weapon and magic skills to like 12 or whatever.  so much grinding..

Did you play Secret of Evermore?  That was a heck of a grinding system.

Secret of Evermore had a lot going for it. I haven't played it quite as recently as Secret of Mana, but I don't remember as much grinding. Wait, it's coming back to me. Yes, grinding magic (or alchemy) could be extremely tedious in both games. And it's worse in Evermore because it uses ingredients rather than MP, so you had to buy or find more rather than just sleeping in an inn.

Anyhow, the grinding isn't mandatory in either game, though it helps. Secret of Evermore had a lot of the same combat issues that Secret of Mana had, although at least, being a single-player game, it didn't have Mana's fundamentally flawed multi-player elements.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 07, 2014, 11:03:06 pm
Sorry, I could not take any more videogame talk in a non-videogame thread.

Man, this is random stuff. Most things are fair game except Dominion and RSP topics.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 07, 2014, 11:19:58 pm
Speaking of nostalgia, I loved Secret of Mana when I was a kid. Looking back now, I still like its characters, world, art style, and music. But the combat is just a list of things not to do in that kind of adventure game.

I remember leveling up all the weapon and magic skills to like 12 or whatever.  so much grinding..

Did you play Secret of Evermore?  That was a heck of a grinding system.

Secret of Evermore had a lot going for it. I haven't played it quite as recently as Secret of Mana, but I don't remember as much grinding. Wait, it's coming back to me. Yes, grinding magic (or alchemy) could be extremely tedious in both games. And it's worse in Evermore because it uses ingredients rather than MP, so you had to buy or find more rather than just sleeping in an inn.

Anyhow, the grinding isn't mandatory in either game, though it helps. Secret of Evermore had a lot of the same combat issues that Secret of Mana had, although at least, being a single-player game, it didn't have Mana's fundamentally flawed multi-player elements.

Well, when I was a kid I'd play games to the maximum.. I'd always have to max out all levels and skills.. all characters to Lv. 99, etc.  Evermore was a pain because of alchemy.. you'd have to run all over getting components for stuff and use abilities over and over. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Archetype on October 08, 2014, 12:23:42 am
Auctioneers love morbid humor.
Why haven't more people upvoted this.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ashersky on October 08, 2014, 01:58:18 am
I'm considering buying a PS4.  This is mainly due to my brother-in-law being a Call of Duty fanatic and wanting me to join his team online.

For reference, I've been a Nintendo guy forever (although not seriously since Gamecube) and have an XBox360 for kids/kinect games.

Do I do it?  If I do, do I get get Destiny?  It looks awesome, but then the reviews by gamers panned it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on October 08, 2014, 02:21:22 am
Don't ever do anything that involves Call of Duty.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Titandrake on October 08, 2014, 03:56:28 am
Obtain a PS2/backwards compatible PS3, play Kingdom Hearts, if you like 1 + 2 then you can start preparing for KH3 finally coming out.

By Nintendo guy, do you mean Nintendo platformers or Nintendo RPGs, or something else entirely?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ashersky on October 08, 2014, 04:13:39 am
Obtain a PS2/backwards compatible PS3, play Kingdom Hearts, if you like 1 + 2 then you can start preparing for KH3 finally coming out.

By Nintendo guy, do you mean Nintendo platformers or Nintendo RPGs, or something else entirely?

Zelda/Secret of Mana/Kart, etc. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 08, 2014, 04:36:07 am
Auctioneers love morbid humor.
Why haven't more people upvoted this.

I am ashamed to say that I'm not getting the reference.

Oh wait. Oh. Wow. OK.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 08, 2014, 04:45:50 am
I'm considering buying a PS4.  This is mainly due to my brother-in-law being a Call of Duty fanatic and wanting me to join his team online.

The Last of Us Remastered. That should be reason enough for you to get a PS4. If you don't allready have a PS3 and the original game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ashersky on October 08, 2014, 06:10:02 am
I'm considering buying a PS4.  This is mainly due to my brother-in-law being a Call of Duty fanatic and wanting me to join his team online.

The Last of Us Remastered. That should be reason enough for you to get a PS4. If you don't allready have a PS3 and the original game.

Watched a trailor...looks cool.  Is it sort of an FPS Walking Dead with a plot?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 08, 2014, 06:16:10 am
I'm considering buying a PS4.  This is mainly due to my brother-in-law being a Call of Duty fanatic and wanting me to join his team online.

The Last of Us Remastered. That should be reason enough for you to get a PS4. If you don't allready have a PS3 and the original game.

Watched a trailor...looks cool.  Is it sort of an FPS Walking Dead with a plot?

Kind of. It's third person over the shoulder cover based shooter. But the main thing is the plot. I'm not a huge fan of shooters like this one, but it's still one of my favorite games of late.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 08, 2014, 06:20:43 am
Auctioneers love morbid humor.
Why haven't more people upvoted this.

I am ashamed to say that I'm not getting the reference.

Oh wait. Oh. Wow. OK.

Why would you do this? I still don't get it. I mean, I think I don't get it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 08, 2014, 06:22:03 am
I didn't get it either. Then I did. And it's great. :D
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ashersky on October 08, 2014, 06:47:08 am
It's a terribad pun.  Just enunciate every syllable.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 08, 2014, 07:22:31 am
"More bid, who more"?

Uuuuggggghhhh.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 08, 2014, 08:21:25 am
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: liopoil on October 08, 2014, 08:36:05 am
It's a terribad pun.  Just enunciate every syllable.
and here I was thinking "auct-she-un-ear? huh?"
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pingpongsam on October 08, 2014, 08:59:30 am
It's a terribad pun.  Just enunciate every syllable.
and here I was thinking "auct-she-un-ear? huh?"

awk shun ear where I'm from
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 08, 2014, 09:02:54 am
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.


We got the kids up at 05:40 and watched from about half umbral until a couple minutes into totality; they wouldn't have lasted much longer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 08, 2014, 09:33:23 am
Ach! She near!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 08, 2014, 10:51:40 am
I found some two-dimensional Braille. Someone printed a sign on typical paper and posted it on the wall. It has the dots for Braille, but it's completely flat.

I feel like I should be outraged, but I'm overcome by the absurdity of it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: LastFootnote on October 08, 2014, 11:04:26 am
It's a terribad pun.  Just enunciate every syllable.
and here I was thinking "auct-she-un-ear? huh?"

awk shun ear where I'm from

Why would auks shun ears?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 08, 2014, 11:16:33 am
It's a terribad pun.  Just enunciate every syllable.
and here I was thinking "auct-she-un-ear? huh?"

awk shun ear where I'm from

Why would auks shun ears?

Auks never hear anything nice about them, so they've grown to shun their ears.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 08, 2014, 12:07:51 pm
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.

Aw, why didn't someone mention this in advance? I did not know but would have gotten up early.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: sudgy on October 08, 2014, 01:00:51 pm
I still don't get the auctioneer joke...  Could someone blatantly explain it for me?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Lekkit on October 08, 2014, 01:01:45 pm
More bid. Bid more. Auctions are bidding.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Watno on October 08, 2014, 01:11:02 pm
"morbid humor" sounds like "more bid, who more", and an auctioneer would like people bidding more.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 08, 2014, 01:13:52 pm
"morbid humor" sounds like "more bid, who more", and an auctioneer would like people bidding more.

Chinese auctioneer.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 08, 2014, 02:01:01 pm
I want to write a strategy article, but I don't know about which card. If I make a thread asking people to decide, does that come across as arrogant? I kind of fear that it does.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 08, 2014, 02:05:18 pm
I want to write a strategy article, but I don't know about which card. If I make a thread asking people to decide, does that come across as arrogant? I kind of fear that it does.

I nominate Scout.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on October 08, 2014, 02:07:38 pm
I want to write a strategy article, but I don't know about which card. If I make a thread asking people to decide, does that come across as arrogant? I kind of fear that it does.

I don't think so.  I mean, there are lots of cards without articles (or cards with really old articles) that can definitely be done.  I think you should make a poll between like 5 or so cards that you would consider writing about and see which one the community wants to see written.  I don't think writing articles is a matter of skill level, but more of desire to put the thought and effort into that card.  Because rest assured, we will analyze your article and find ALL the mistakes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 08, 2014, 02:17:30 pm
Î would be fine with almost all cards though, I actually made a list (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb566agzlk7qixl/cards.txt?dl=0) of cards I wouldn't want to write, and it's pretty short.

It's interesting that you think it's not a question of skill, I think it probably is. at least part of it.

well I could probably pick a bunch of cards that I like. A poll with almost all cards would look really weird.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 08, 2014, 02:19:42 pm
Î would be fine with almost all cards though, I actually made a list (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb566agzlk7qixl/cards.txt?dl=0) of cards I wouldn't want to write, and it's pretty short.

It's interesting that you think it's not a question of skill, I think it probably is. at least part of it.

well I could probably pick a bunch of cards that I like. A poll with almost all cards would look really weird.

Take list of all cards.  Remove cards you don't want to write.  Remove cards that already have articles.  Add back those cards where you think the articles are outdated, or could be improved a lot, or you just have a lot to add.  Then select your favourites from that list and put those in the poll.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 08, 2014, 02:25:23 pm
Quote
Take list of all cards.  Remove cards you don't want to write.  Remove cards that already have articles.  Add back those cards where you think the articles are outdated, or could be improved a lot, or you just have a lot to add.  Then select your favourites from that list and put those in the poll.

the idea is not bad, except I have to read over 200 articles to see which ones are outdated. that's kind of exactly what I wanted to avoid by asking people.

also, I have the feeling that if I do something like that, people would inevitably just vote for Prince anyway. Maybe I should just do prince?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 08, 2014, 02:27:01 pm
Quote
Take list of all cards.  Remove cards you don't want to write.  Remove cards that already have articles.  Add back those cards where you think the articles are outdated, or could be improved a lot, or you just have a lot to add.  Then select your favourites from that list and put those in the poll.

the idea is not bad, except I have to read over 200 articles to see which ones are outdated. that's kind of exactly what I wanted to avoid by asking people.

also, I have the feeling that if I do something like that, people would inevitably just vote for Prince anyway. Maybe I should just do prince?

Well after you decide what card to do, you should then write an article about the how to decide what card to write an article about.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 08, 2014, 02:31:59 pm
Quote
Take list of all cards.  Remove cards you don't want to write.  Remove cards that already have articles.  Add back those cards where you think the articles are outdated, or could be improved a lot, or you just have a lot to add.  Then select your favourites from that list and put those in the poll.

the idea is not bad, except I have to read over 200 articles to see which ones are outdated. that's kind of exactly what I wanted to avoid by asking people.

also, I have the feeling that if I do something like that, people would inevitably just vote for Prince anyway. Maybe I should just do prince?

Mm, fair enough.  You could reverse the order.  Pick your favourites, then check to see which have good articles already.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 08, 2014, 02:33:32 pm
oookay screw this. I'll make a list here:

Quote
Prince, Scout, Island, Lookout

whoever reads this can add as many cards to that as he wants (as long as they're not this list (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb566agzlk7qixl/cards.txt?dl=0)), and I'll put those in the poll. that's basically the exact thing that I wanted to do all along, except this way it's much more casual.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on October 08, 2014, 02:36:34 pm
It's interesting that you think it's not a question of skill, I think it probably is. at least part of it.

The reason I say that is because I think it is important for anyone with the desire to write an article to feel free to do so.  The biggest thing to understand is that we will critique the article as a community, so the more skillful you are, the fewer "negative" comments you will get.  So if you don't have thick skin, and aren't that good, I wouldn't recommend writing an article.   However, if you can take constructive criticism, there is a lot you can learn by putting everything you know about a card down in writing, then getting critiques, improving your original article, and learning a bunch from it.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: soulnet on October 08, 2014, 02:41:49 pm
so the more skillful you are, the fewer "negative" comments you will get

I actually think being really thorough in both what to include and how to express it are more important than being really good at the game. I feel that after some level of play, which is not that high, what can be taught in something as broad as a single card article is really little.

This should be no surprise, as a similar thing happens with science: you do need to be a bit good to teach advanced classes, but after some point, which is not that high, how well you prepare and how good you are at communication is a much bigger deal than whether you are Nobel-prize/Fields-medal/Turing-award level or just a decent researcher a couple of years after getting your PhD. And at the same time, even shortly after your PhD, is really little what you can still learn from general books (of your own field), and you need to start talking to people and attending specific seminars.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 08, 2014, 02:51:32 pm
I found some two-dimensional Braille. Someone printed a sign on typical paper and posted it on the wall. It has the dots for Braille, but it's completely flat.

I feel like I should be outraged, but I'm overcome by the absurdity of it.

I work with a blind (legally, he has some very limited sight) guy and he said this happens fairly regularly. It's... amazing.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 08, 2014, 02:54:53 pm
I found some two-dimensional Braille. Someone printed a sign on typical paper and posted it on the wall. It has the dots for Braille, but it's completely flat.

I feel like I should be outraged, but I'm overcome by the absurdity of it.

I work with a blind (legally, he has some very limited sight) guy and he said this happens fairly regularly. It's... amazing.

Lazy blind people.  They should just learn to read 2D Braille. 
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: soulnet on October 08, 2014, 02:59:29 pm
I found some two-dimensional Braille. Someone printed a sign on typical paper and posted it on the wall. It has the dots for Braille, but it's completely flat.

I feel like I should be outraged, but I'm overcome by the absurdity of it.

I work with a blind (legally, he has some very limited sight) guy and he said this happens fairly regularly. It's... amazing.

If its printed, it's not really 2D. Maybe with a magnifying glass they can perceive the small change in texture.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 08, 2014, 03:00:14 pm
It's interesting that you think it's not a question of skill, I think it probably is. at least part of it.

The reason I say that is because I think it is important for anyone with the desire to write an article to feel free to do so.  The biggest thing to understand is that we will critique the article as a community, so the more skillful you are, the fewer "negative" comments you will get.  So if you don't have thick skin, and aren't that good, I wouldn't recommend writing an article.   However, if you can take constructive criticism, there is a lot you can learn by putting everything you know about a card down in writing, then getting critiques, improving your original article, and learning a bunch from it.

Do you mean good in that context as in good at the game or as in good at writing articles?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: 2.71828..... on October 08, 2014, 03:02:06 pm
It's interesting that you think it's not a question of skill, I think it probably is. at least part of it.

The reason I say that is because I think it is important for anyone with the desire to write an article to feel free to do so.  The biggest thing to understand is that we will critique the article as a community, so the more skillful you are, the fewer "negative" comments you will get.  So if you don't have thick skin, and aren't that good, I wouldn't recommend writing an article.   However, if you can take constructive criticism, there is a lot you can learn by putting everything you know about a card down in writing, then getting critiques, improving your original article, and learning a bunch from it.

Do you mean good in that context as in good at the game or as in good at writing articles?

good at the game.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 08, 2014, 03:09:41 pm
I found some two-dimensional Braille. Someone printed a sign on typical paper and posted it on the wall. It has the dots for Braille, but it's completely flat.

I feel like I should be outraged, but I'm overcome by the absurdity of it.

I work with a blind (legally, he has some very limited sight) guy and he said this happens fairly regularly. It's... amazing.

One of my friends took the effort to translate what's actually on the sheet. I don't know braille, but I do have a book at home that I briefly looked at, and something did seem wrong. My friend confirmed (and I should have noticed just by the pattern) that the braille on the sheet just reads OVERY over and over again. It has nothing to do with the text on the sign.

So the conjecture is now that the sign is just to act as a placeholder for an expensive sign, and the braille template is there just as a reminder that this sign will have braille (not sure if there's a height expectation for signs in braille). At least that's what I hoping for because, as jaded as I generally can be, I cannot believe that someone would copy and paste five characters and expect it to pass as braille when printed on ordinary paper.

But your co-worker's statement does make me cringe.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: silverspawn on October 08, 2014, 03:10:46 pm
I'm confused. but in any case, I have a very thick skin. It's not like this is the first thing I've done that will receive harsh criticism, I mean I've written guides, music reviews, fanfiction, made a dominion expansion and I'm even trying a mafia setup. and for a forum, this site has really considerate users. so, I'm not concerned about harsh feedback.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 08, 2014, 03:35:50 pm
oookay screw this. I'll make a list here:

Quote
Prince, Scout

whoever reads this can add as many cards to that as he wants (as long as they're not this list (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb566agzlk7qixl/cards.txt?dl=0)), and I'll put those in the poll. that's basically the exact thing that I wanted to do all along, except this way it's much more casual.
Island.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kuildeous on October 08, 2014, 03:55:43 pm
I'm confused. but in any case, I have a very thick skin. It's not like this is the first thing I've done that will receive harsh criticism, I mean I've written guides, music reviews, fanfiction, made a dominion expansion and I'm even trying a mafia setup. and for a forum, this site has really considerate users. so, I'm not concerned about harsh feedback.

We even dissected your Facebook love life at one point.

Man, we get really personal sometimes.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 08, 2014, 03:57:11 pm
I'm confused. but in any case, I have a very thick skin. It's not like this is the first thing I've done that will receive harsh criticism, I mean I've written guides, music reviews, fanfiction, made a dominion expansion and I'm even trying a mafia setup. and for a forum, this site has really considerate users. so, I'm not concerned about harsh feedback.

We even dissected your Facebook love life at one point.

Man, we get really personal sometimes.

Did she ever accept the friend request?  Or was it just a message?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: enfynet on October 08, 2014, 04:10:43 pm
My "friend" accepted my friend request, after I invited her to lunch.

Somehow, lunch took 3 hours that day...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Polk5440 on October 08, 2014, 04:12:12 pm
oookay screw this. I'll make a list here:

Quote
Prince, Scout

whoever reads this can add as many cards to that as he wants (as long as they're not this list (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb566agzlk7qixl/cards.txt?dl=0)), and I'll put those in the poll. that's basically the exact thing that I wanted to do all along, except this way it's much more casual.
Island.

or Lookout.

Seriously. There was a "light trashers" article started, but I think some of the individual light trasher articles could be updated/rewritten.

Prince is a safe bet, too, since it's the newest card.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Awaclus on October 08, 2014, 04:14:07 pm
oookay screw this. I'll make a list here:

Quote
Prince, Scout

whoever reads this can add as many cards to that as he wants (as long as they're not this list (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb566agzlk7qixl/cards.txt?dl=0)), and I'll put those in the poll. that's basically the exact thing that I wanted to do all along, except this way it's much more casual.
Island.

or Lookout.

But silverspawn doesn't want to share what he knows about Lookout with the community.  :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on October 08, 2014, 04:43:08 pm
"morbid humor" sounds like "more bid, who more", and an auctioneer would like people bidding more.
It was only supposed to be "more bid humor" but I like seeing how the joke is evolving without my presence.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Tables on October 08, 2014, 04:46:39 pm
I found some two-dimensional Braille. Someone printed a sign on typical paper and posted it on the wall. It has the dots for Braille, but it's completely flat.

I feel like I should be outraged, but I'm overcome by the absurdity of it.

I work with a blind (legally, he has some very limited sight) guy and he said this happens fairly regularly. It's... amazing.

One of my friends took the effort to translate what's actually on the sheet. I don't know braille, but I do have a book at home that I briefly looked at, and something did seem wrong. My friend confirmed (and I should have noticed just by the pattern) that the braille on the sheet just reads OVERY over and over again. It has nothing to do with the text on the sign.

So the conjecture is now that the sign is just to act as a placeholder for an expensive sign, and the braille template is there just as a reminder that this sign will have braille (not sure if there's a height expectation for signs in braille). At least that's what I hoping for because, as jaded as I generally can be, I cannot believe that someone would copy and paste five characters and expect it to pass as braille when printed on ordinary paper.

But your co-worker's statement does make me cringe.

He's a school pupil, actually, not a co-worker (I can see how you'd make that mistake from my wording though). I spend a lot of my time working with him because I'm the best mathematician among the TAs.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: ashersky on October 08, 2014, 05:06:42 pm
He's a school pupil, actually, not a co-worker (I can see how you'd make that mistake from my wording though). I spend a lot of my time working with him because I'm the best mathematician among the TAs.

How many Twistedarchers are there?
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: theory on October 08, 2014, 05:43:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/4AA9axD.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Polk5440 on October 08, 2014, 05:50:37 pm
Is that a street near you? They need better drainage...
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on October 08, 2014, 05:51:24 pm
I want to see the Polk man fly!
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 08, 2014, 07:16:28 pm
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.

Aw, why didn't someone mention this in advance? I did not know but would have gotten up early.

...Sorry?

I guess I just assume that anyone who engages with the internete extent that people on a large forum do, and who is interested in science, keeps track of at least one, but likely more, places that would mention it.  Reminders started showing up in my Facebook feed over a week ago.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on October 08, 2014, 07:34:39 pm
I just look at the sky somewhere that the moon isn't, and pretend I am seeing an eclipse.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Witherweaver on October 08, 2014, 07:48:02 pm
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.

Aw, why didn't someone mention this in advance? I did not know but would have gotten up early.

...Sorry?

I guess I just assume that anyone who engages with the internete extent that people on a large forum do, and who is interested in science, keeps track of at least one, but likely more, places that would mention it.  Reminders started showing up in my Facebook feed over a week ago.

I mean this was kind of preordained... written in the stars, so to speak.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: pacovf on October 08, 2014, 08:05:10 pm
I've heard Soulnet likes videogames, so let's go back to that.

Who is excited about Civ: Beyond Earth? Who intends to buy it at release?

I for one can answer that I do to the first question, but not so much to the second. I got pretty burnt out after buying Civ 5 at full price at release date.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Teproc on October 08, 2014, 08:19:56 pm
I've heard Soulnet likes videogames, so let's go back to that.

Who is excited about Civ: Beyond Earth? Who intends to buy it at release?

I for one can answer that I do to the first question, but not so much to the second. I got pretty burnt out after buying Civ 5 at full price at release date.

I've preordered it. I've been playing Civ forever (since I was like 5 years old and my older siblings and father introduced me to Civ I) but I've never been as enamored and involved with the game as with Civ V. I was probably still in my WoW phase when it came out, I have the GotY edition so I never had that bad experience that a lot of people seem to have had with the Civ V release, but I doubt Civ BE will have those problems, as it is basically a Civ V spinoff, based on the Civ V engine.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 08, 2014, 08:28:22 pm
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.

Aw, why didn't someone mention this in advance? I did not know but would have gotten up early.

...Sorry?

I guess I just assume that anyone who engages with the internete extent that people on a large forum do, and who is interested in science, keeps track of at least one, but likely more, places that would mention it.  Reminders started showing up in my Facebook feed over a week ago.

It just slipped my radar somehow.  I don't know.   :-[
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Axxle on October 08, 2014, 09:15:47 pm
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.

Aw, why didn't someone mention this in advance? I did not know but would have gotten up early.

...Sorry?

I guess I just assume that anyone who engages with the internete extent that people on a large forum do, and who is interested in science, keeps track of at least one, but likely more, places that would mention it.  Reminders started showing up in my Facebook feed over a week ago.

It just slipped my radar somehow.  I don't know.   :-[
There's a good one every year or something like that, you shouldn't have to wait too much longer to see it. There's probably a list on Wikipedia of the next events or something
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: eHalcyon on October 08, 2014, 09:23:52 pm
I knew about the lunar eclipse last night, but I didn't realize it'd still be happening at 6:45 this morning. So that was cool.

I had only seen a lunar eclipse once, and I stayed up late for it (confession: It was in college so I was awake that late anyway). I didn't bother with all the other lunar eclipses since then.

Aw, why didn't someone mention this in advance? I did not know but would have gotten up early.

...Sorry?

I guess I just assume that anyone who engages with the internete extent that people on a large forum do, and who is interested in science, keeps track of at least one, but likely more, places that would mention it.  Reminders started showing up in my Facebook feed over a week ago.

It just slipped my radar somehow.  I don't know.   :-[
There's a good one every year or something like that, you shouldn't have to wait too much longer to see it. There's probably a list on Wikipedia of the next events or something

Yeah, I know.  I tend to miss them all though. :P
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: heron on October 08, 2014, 09:38:16 pm
Well there will be a partial solar eclipse on the 23rd in North America and the Pacific just so you guys know.
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 08, 2014, 10:07:02 pm
There's a good one every year or something like that, you shouldn't have to wait too much longer to see it. There's probably a list on Wikipedia of the next events or something

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse.html  <-- more information than you could possibly need about eclipses, up to the end of the millennium

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEdecade/SEdecade2011.html <-- more detailed info for the rest of the decade, solar.
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEdecade/LEdecade2011.html <-- and lunar
Title: Re: Random Stuff Part II
Post by: Kirian on October 08, 2014, 10:23:25 pm