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Title: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 05, 2011, 10:11:14 am
I know the leaderboard is in a state of flux and heavy discussion, and may have changed again in the past 48 hours, but I hope someone can help me with the following. Assumptions: a) game is played today; b) both players are logged in; c) Doug's rule of a few months ago about games with cards being selected is in effect.  I hope these are phrased in a way to allow yes/no answers.

1) If cards are randomly selected by the computer, but veto mode is used, will the game be used in calculating your rating?
2) If the "bias" feature is used to bias towards a given expansion, will the game be used in calculating your rating?

One further question.  Because I am a newer player, I often seek out players whose status message tells me they are also learning.  A lot of them have the base set at home.  We will therefore manually set the card constraints to "!set=base", but allow ALL 10 kingdom cards (10 of 10) to be selected from the base game ONLY.  I consider this still a random selection of cards, but obviously from a smaller pool of possibilities.  Do games played under these conditions get used in the calculation of your rating?

Edit: Revised question 2 for clarity and facilitation of yes/no response.
Title: Re: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: guided on December 05, 2011, 10:29:08 am
1) Yes. My "led" account is mostly veto-mode games, and it looks like pretty much all my games have been counted.
2) Pretty sure yes. You have no control over whether your opponents use the bias boxes when you get automatched, so it would be pretty cruel to discount those games.
3) Definitely doesn't count. You've set restrictions, and games with restrictions don't count.
Title: Re: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: Thisisnotasmile on December 05, 2011, 10:34:22 am
1) Yes.
2) Yes, although possibly not under the most recent (last 48 hours) update. Probably still yes though.

3) The FAQ currently states "It has no cards either prohibited or required via the "require card(s)" box. (Veto mode games do count.)", although it has not yet been updated with details of the very latest change. Whether or not "cards" includes "sets" I do not know. I don't see any reason why base only games shouldn't count. I suspect that they don't, though.

ninja'd.
Title: Re: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 05, 2011, 11:59:16 am
I guess the one way to answer #3 would be to note how many games I've played through midnight last night, then play a known number of games today (all with the cards restricted to the base set), then check my record tomorrow see if the number of games has changed. 

TINAS - What does "ninja'd" mean?  (And by the way, thanks for the games a couple of weeks ago.  I hope to find you again.)
Title: Re: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: Donald X. on December 05, 2011, 12:44:29 pm
TINAS - What does "ninja'd" mean?
It means "sarnath'd," and urbandictionary.com has both of them.
Title: Re: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: guided on December 05, 2011, 12:49:42 pm
I guess the one way to answer #3 would be to note how many games I've played through midnight last night, then play a known number of games today (all with the cards restricted to the base set), then check my record tomorrow see if the number of games has changed.
I promise you it doesn't count. Restrictions are restrictions, regardless of whether you name specific cards.
Title: Re: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 05, 2011, 03:14:00 pm
Thank you kind sir.  And now I know why I feel like I've played lots more than the stats say I have.
Title: Re: Which games count towards ratings?
Post by: SwitchedFromStarcraft on December 05, 2011, 03:24:02 pm
TINAS - What does "ninja'd" mean?
It means "sarnath'd," and urbandictionary.com has both of them.

Donald, thanks for supplying the latter.  The entry for it in the dictionary was much shorter.  I started with ninja'd, but that collection of entries was vaguely disturbing and (wait for it, as I use this for the very first time since having it explained to me a few days ago):

TL;DR

Damn, its a good day when you don't feel quite such the dinosaur.